I'm looking for good old gems

Give me your recommendations, Strategobros.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Depends how old you want. The 1990,s and 2000's were a good time for strategy before everything went down the drain in the 2010's.

    Either way If I can recomend something I'll recomend The Battle for Middle-earth games as they hold up quite well even today.

    Also try Caesar 3

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      DWU is pretty alright.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I highly recommend AuthorValentine on Twitch for Rome 3 content.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    M.A.X.

    Play it in turn based mode. Find crashing patch. One of the kind strategy game. Base building with combat that has high emphasis on range, supply, and scouting.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Warrior kings battles. Get it for a dollar (or less) when it goes on sale.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Literally anything pre 2010. I've gone and set up a huge list of wargames, 4x, rtt, tba and tbt games going all the way back to 1990 and started playing through all of then from the start and I'm having a fricking blast.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      mind sharing the list with us?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Could do but bear in mind it's turned into more of just a personal backlog of games to check out, it's gone on to include all sorts of vehicle Sims and I've also ommited all sorts of games that I just don't have an interest in, for example you won't find many plain old RTS titles since the originally started as me tracking the evolution of historically-themed wargames.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That pic is me with EU3, arguably with Victoria 2 as well but I've basically done everything in that game to the point where even mods don't excite me anymore. I even used to look forward to new game releases, now I'm just ugly laughing every time things like Victoria 3 and Grey Eminence shit the bed.

    Your question is a bit hard to answer since you kinda just asked us to recommend you anything, anon-kun; the strategy genre is a wide range of things. I don't know, play one of the older Total Wars? Since you got me thinking about Victoria 2, I might now give Victoria 1 a shot to scratch that Victoria itch; I heard a while ago that there were some things that were a downgrade in Victoria 2 compared to Victoria 1 when it came to the military, so that would be something to check out.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      eu3 is so good

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Is EU3 better than EU4?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          100%, eu4 is when paradox fell off, their last good game is ck2.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          EU3 had its own problems such as cascading alliances, but I'd say it never got like EU4 where the game suffered from major feature creep due to the devs just adding things on without a coherent vision for the game. But I also stopped playing EU4 very early on because I felt like the mana system took most of the difficulty out of the game, so I guess the short answer to your question is yes. Learning EU3 in 2023 will be tough though since a lot of the guides from back in the day are now gone.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why even bother with older games? We're in a golden age of strategy right now. There's Crusader Kings 3, Victoria 3, HOI4, Stellaris, Cities Skylines 2. You've never had more choices.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Implying any of those cookieclickers require strategy.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Neither does the tripe OP posted. Pharaoh is just a mobile tier puzzle game.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Paradox games except for Victoria 2 suck.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Why even bother with older games? We're in a golden age of goyslop right now.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Crusader Kings 3
      Fun for an evening with a friend. braindead map paint otherwise
      >Victoria 3
      Not a game
      >Hoi4
      Fun for an evening with a friend
      >Stellaris
      DLC baited with sauce, also not a strategy game
      >Cities skylines 2
      DLC bait

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Crusader Kings is fun but you have to roleplay a bit. It's not a map painting game in my opinion, even if that's the drive most players will have.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >even if that's the drive most players will have.
          I want to roleplay but the map that is 95% of the full screen stop me for roleplaying, because you know, if you lose your realm is over, you can't get it back as a 'lackland'.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Roleplaying doesn't mean letting your realm die. The fun part of Crusader Kings isn't really map painting, it's placing your dinasty in places of power and carefully administrating your vassals so no one gets too poweful. If you play CK minmaxing it's just boring.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >even if that's the drive most players will have.
              I want to roleplay but the map that is 95% of the full screen stop me for roleplaying, because you know, if you lose your realm is over, you can't get it back as a 'lackland'.

              is that ck3 mod with attila battles any good
              I hate ck3 and I would never play it over ck2 or at least that's what I thought(in truth because I don't understand how ck3 works I think, I could play a small county in early starts in ck2 and do fine but every time I played ck3 as a small county I instadieded) but I saw there was a mod for total war attila battles and that might make ck3 worth playing for me because I like the idea of a ck game with total war combat and I was saddened when bannerlord came out because I thought it would be like that plus good personal combat but then I remembered how shit m&b combat is in comparison to like chivalry and mordhau which is really sad :/

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a golden age of strategy right now

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that shiggyface tho

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Crusader Kings 3
      Fun for an evening with a friend. braindead map paint otherwise
      >Victoria 3
      Not a game
      >Hoi4
      Fun for an evening with a friend
      >Stellaris
      DLC baited with sauce, also not a strategy game
      >Cities skylines 2
      DLC bait

      CK3 is ugly af.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    patrician 3
    port royale 2

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this is rather similar to my dig up list, but i went with pat 4.
      economic sims with corsairs blowing up your gains are having a minor comeback year

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Patrician 4 is ok but you can see telltale signs of the casualisation trend to come. I saw this too with civ 4 (after playing civ 3 as a child) and The Guild games.
        man, The Guild. I remember playing that and imagining how in-depth medieval life simulator games could get in the future (the future being 2015 - 20)
        Smart phones (and so mobile gaming and massive, paypig audiences) have been a disaster for vidya.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Dominions.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I want to play dominion so bad but I don't have the time to commit to a game :(. Also if there's any anons that haven't played it, please do, it's truly one of greatest games of all times you won't regret it.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fixed it for you OP 😉

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/vwuqDsH.png

      Give me your recommendations, Strategobros.

      Hey / hey people

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >mfw this is how I ended up on Sinology
      >mfw this is why I got burned out by interacting with Chinks for living
      >mfw I've tried suicide spend half a year in a psych ward due to the above
      >mfw I still play the game whenever I have free time

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >can't run old games for memory allocation and compatibility issues
    >can't run new games because toaster

    Literally want to kms. I can't even run Rome Total War, or Civ4 anymore.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Civ IV from GOG works for me just fine on my 2015ish PC

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If you insist on using windows, just download virtualbox and install XP on it. Alternatively, most old games work well in WINE.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I read the top Wojak's lines with the voice of that migrant in Pharoah:
    >I'M NEW HERE. I WONDER WHAT THE CITY WILL OFFER TO A PERSON LIKE ME.
    A couple of in-game years later he's been through so many famines and plagues that he doesn't even remember why he settled here.

    And unironically just play Shadow Empire. It's the only strategy game with SOVL that I've played in years.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The immigrant's voice actor still cracks me up. I used to click him repeatedly to hear his cheerful voice, full of optimism.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >not "I've been kicked out of my home and through no fault of my own."

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    laser squad
    shadow of the horned rat
    deadlock
    lords of the relm 2
    waterworld
    small soldiers

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >shadow of the horned rat
      Aged like milk. Just play Mark of Chaos or wait for Dark Omen

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Mark of Chaos
        Might as well play the Warhammer mod for Medieval 2 instead.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    JA2 and Tiberian Sun, but I'm sure you've played them.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    2010 was around the time even the most out of touch Eurojank devs realized it’s not worth making strategy games. It’s

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Master of Magic

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Honestly I think it happened as gaming became more mainstream. It started happening with shit like PS2, but definitely by 2010, every man and his dog, and even w*men, had gaming consoles in their lounges. So along comes these cynical fricking game publishers like Activision and EA and pretty much just starts churning out trash with mainstream appeal to tap into the market as efficiently as possible. Why make a detailed and good game that's gonna appeal to a single basement dweller, when you can make something shitty and straight forward that'll get bought up by 10 dude-bros on their Xboxes, qnd the best part is you can just reskin the game the next year and sell it again, and the same 10 dude-bros will buy that too.
    Whereas prior to 2010, gaming was very much still the domain of nerds, wo instead you had all these developers making games pertaining to their own autistic obsession purely for the love of it.
    These types do still exist to some extent but you're more likely find them in the indie space, but once again that is also a space that was been beset by morons and w*men, so now you need to sift through endless piles of trash before you find good shit.

    Tldr casualization ruined gaming as it does with most things

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much. It follows the basic consumer business cycle.
      >autist makes thing for autists
      >autists enjoy it
      >enough autists buy it that it makes a profit
      >low tier investors become interested, start putting more autists to work
      >a golden age occurs where autists have tons of resources to make their vision reality
      >huge profits occur and draw in high tier investors
      >their only goal is to "make it go mainstream" to get more sales
      >fire all the autists that don't want to go along, replace with talentless morons
      >new products drive off the original autists in favor of a dumber mainstream audience
      >keep cutting corners and monetize every aspect to squeeze just a few more dollars more
      >dumb mainstream audience falls for it every time
      >this keeps going until the credibility falls too low even for mainstream morons to buy it
      >product is destroyed and shelved
      >investors move on to the new thing

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        This greentext would be true, if not for the fact that the video games industry is getting more profitable by the year, and has a ridiculous growth when compared to other entertainment sources.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much. It follows the basic consumer business cycle.
      >autist makes thing for autists
      >autists enjoy it
      >enough autists buy it that it makes a profit
      >low tier investors become interested, start putting more autists to work
      >a golden age occurs where autists have tons of resources to make their vision reality
      >huge profits occur and draw in high tier investors
      >their only goal is to "make it go mainstream" to get more sales
      >fire all the autists that don't want to go along, replace with talentless morons
      >new products drive off the original autists in favor of a dumber mainstream audience
      >keep cutting corners and monetize every aspect to squeeze just a few more dollars more
      >dumb mainstream audience falls for it every time
      >this keeps going until the credibility falls too low even for mainstream morons to buy it
      >product is destroyed and shelved
      >investors move on to the new thing

      >Tldr casualization ruined gaming as it does with most things
      >It follows the basic consumer business cycle.
      OP here, thanks Strategobros for you time and I agree with what you posted. This show me 2 things:
      1. this companies (EA, Microsoft, Blizzard, etc) should be banned for doing literal scams and selling bad products (plus for destroying art);
      2. democracy is a mistake, casualization is just a neo-word for democratization, democracy as Aristotle said is ochlocracy (the goverment of the morons, but this time with their wallets instead of votes).

      I hate the current state of gaming.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much. It follows the basic consumer business cycle.
      >autist makes thing for autists
      >autists enjoy it
      >enough autists buy it that it makes a profit
      >low tier investors become interested, start putting more autists to work
      >a golden age occurs where autists have tons of resources to make their vision reality
      >huge profits occur and draw in high tier investors
      >their only goal is to "make it go mainstream" to get more sales
      >fire all the autists that don't want to go along, replace with talentless morons
      >new products drive off the original autists in favor of a dumber mainstream audience
      >keep cutting corners and monetize every aspect to squeeze just a few more dollars more
      >dumb mainstream audience falls for it every time
      >this keeps going until the credibility falls too low even for mainstream morons to buy it
      >product is destroyed and shelved
      >investors move on to the new thing

      [...]
      >Tldr casualization ruined gaming as it does with most things
      >It follows the basic consumer business cycle.
      OP here, thanks Strategobros for you time and I agree with what you posted. This show me 2 things:
      1. this companies (EA, Microsoft, Blizzard, etc) should be banned for doing literal scams and selling bad products (plus for destroying art);
      2. democracy is a mistake, casualization is just a neo-word for democratization, democracy as Aristotle said is ochlocracy (the goverment of the morons, but this time with their wallets instead of votes).

      I hate the current state of gaming.

      i can't hear this argument anymore, you had the videogame crash in the 1980's and culture industry with it mass popculture has been since the beginning of the last century.
      vidyagames were commercialized consumer products in a mass market by the 1990s, which occasionaly were the passion project of some devs, too.
      to act as if rts vidya in the 1990s was not consumer mass slob like it is now, is just pure nostalgia cope. it always has been bad, anon. stop lying to yourself and creating a past that never existed. i would also argue that you see more "passion" projects now, with the different forms of funding that the big internet userbase has produced.
      you Black folk always just want to feel special, because you played AoE2 when you were a kid, lmao.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        RTS had very low sales in the 90s.
        >Doom 2 (1994) - millions of copies sold
        >Warcraft: Orcs and Humans (1994) - under 1 million sold

        I think you're just bitter you missed out on experiencing the peak of RTS when it was relevant and advanced for its time. All you have are nuTWs so no wonder you're mad.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but I don't think Warcraft 1 is a fair comparison, since that was before the genre hit its stride. Both C&C and Warcraft 2 went on to sell millions of copies.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >NTA but I don't think Warcraft 1 is a fair comparison, since that was before the genre hit its stride
            That's my point. moronanon was claiming RTS games were already mainstream through the 90s, and even brought up the 80s.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >through the 90s
              I just interpreted it as IN the 90s which is correct and the comment about the 80s was about videogaming in general, not RTSs.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >he said 90s but really meant 1999
                I don't buy it.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Warcraft II came out in '95 and was the number one selling game in '96.

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Hidden Agenda 1988

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      only thing i hate is that it basically forces you to become a sandinista to not get coup'd

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Glory to chimerica

      I remember when the download to this game was removed from home of the underdogs and you had to e-mail the developer and he would only send you the game if you gave to a south american charity.

      I told him I had just come back from giving food and clothes to poor people in Brazil, and that was good enough for him.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I told him I had just come back from giving food and clothes to poor people in Brazil, and that was good enough for him.

        Did you lied to him?

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Game barely qualified to be on /vr/
    >Old
    Zoomers gonna zoom

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      being old isnt a flex

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Kohan 2

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    knights of honor

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How old?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >remaster never
      It hurts.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      '99 zoomber.

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what about Nebuchadnezzar? Heard it was supposed to be a Pharaoh successor, what happened to it?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It was kind of lifeless and if I remember correctly - but don't quote me on it - the dev basically told anyone who gave feedback to frick off.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Why lifeless? You mean the aesthetics or the mechanics?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The cities are literally more empty than Pharaoh's.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Does being able to manually set routes make for emptier cities?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Personally I think it's the lack of employer walkers. I know some people don't like them, but just having a generic "citizen" walker filled up cities beyond just the utilitarian ones.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I've been playing through nebuchadnezzar and it's ok so far, doesn't feel much empty and the festivals add a bit of spice to the streets from time to time. Although maybe they don't feel empty because I'm not great at route optimization

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    UFO defense is always a nice classic, if you get bored you can just make up a new challenge

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    mount and blade: warband

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >What happened after 2010, why all is becoming shit or is already shit?
    I know you got an answer, but I think another factor was console gaming. When games have to work on consoles too, then controls need to be simplified to work on as few buttons as possible.
    Maybe it's personal bias, but I always 'feel' the console-ization of games.

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Glad to see someone mention MAX. What a game!

    Rule the Waves 3 seems legit. I haven’t spent much time with it (yet), but seems to scratch the itch.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The feeling of knowing that you are at the age where nothing new can stimulate your soul is terrifying for me. Not at that point yet, but I can feel it approaching.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I want to play dawn of war but everytime I start the game up it crashes
    someone please help me
    t. zoomzoom who has never played dow but heard it was really cool and I like seeing all the dead bodies lying around after a big battle in medieval 2 and it would be cool to see that but with like orks and space marines and shit

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Try https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Warhammer_40,000:_Dawn_of_War#Crash_on_startup

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The Settlers 3 and 4

  30. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    bump

  31. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I don't know what the frick this is, but get your commie spambot off this board, pinko.

  32. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Myth 1 and 2
    >Armies of Exigo
    >Conquest Frontier Wars
    >Codename Panzers 1 and 2
    >Tzar
    >Empire Earth

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>Myth 1 and 2

      I'm actually somewhat surprised no one attempted to mod Myth III into shape. Especially now, with AI voice generators being as advanced as they are, you could rewrite and re-record entire missions.

  33. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just got into Civ 4 Colonization, with the We The People mod. It turns Col into an actual proper game. I was gonna say I'm not sure if that counts as old, since it came out fairly recently, but it actually came out 15 years ago. That's older than the average Paradox fan.

  34. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    mob rule
    constructor
    gearheads
    chaos overlords

  35. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    One of my favorites was always Outpost 2. I always end up coming back to it. Not perfect, but fun as hell and with a cool story to boot. There's still a dedicated group doing multiplayer too if that's your thing. Used to be available free from that same group, until GOG bought the rights.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Extinction is not an option

      Welp guess I have to listen to the soundtrack again.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn it now I do too. Dynamix games had some of the best soundtracks.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Power levels nominal.

      Food production in surplus.

      *distant Robo-Dozer noises*

      Morale is good.

  36. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    C&C Generals Zero Hour & some of its mods

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Play Sacrifice

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Stratego online

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