I'm sick of UE and the realistic lighting meme. What the frick happened to the soul?
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I'm sick of UE and the realistic lighting meme. What the frick happened to the soul?
I'm sick of UE and the realistic lighting meme. What the frick happened to the soul?
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coding your own engine is hard please understand
bottom genuinely looks better
you people (if you can be said to be people) are utterly tiresome
top genuinely looks better
cope and seethe
Colour grading makes everything look shit. Movies and games. Yes, even The Matrix looks better in natural colours.
Christ you fricking specimens have no taste
You're the shit taste Black person whose entire sense of aesthetics was represented by 7th gen, literally the biggest tragedy in all of gaming history.
This is Ganker, you think these cretins even know about The Matrix theatrical color grading? Or LoTR.
>This is Ganker, you think these cretins even know about The Matrix theatrical color grading? Or LoTR.
wow, you watched a youtube video essay and now use having watched that youtube video essay as a way to feel superior to others! you are a worm.
btw, it's not a secret video
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>you are a worm.
You talk like an immense homosexual.
>ooooh no he called me out for being a tremendous wienersucker and putting far too much self worth in watching youtube fudge packers, better nitpick a minor piece of speech!
worm behaviour
Not applicable to videogames because they are not printed on a fricking celluloid.
Also we know from devs themselves that yellow filter was there intentionally as a stylistic choice. kys yourself.
If done in a subtle manner I think CG enhances a piece of media. Though exploiting color theory diegetically (eg having the colors be in the actual set) is better than just twisting some knobs in a studio.
The top image looks more like linear tone-mapping (compared to more modern, "filmic" tone mapping) instead of color grading.
>Colour grading makes everything look shit.
yellow color grading is kino. makes mgs3 feel like a distant memory you are having
People used to get locked away for being this moronic
top genuinely looks better
you people (if you can be said to be people) are utterly tiresome
Top looks on point in stylistic view
>on point
moron
i still remember when Ganker used to make fun of those edgy yellow filters
If it's a new game it's automatically bad here. Period. It's why discussion around here is dead and it's all shitposts. Once in a blue moon you'll get an actual thread discussing the game.
i hate the brown bloom filter but some games benefit from it and feel wrong without it. Snake eater and Need for speed most wanted are 2 examples of piss filter i like. They feel wrong without it. Fallout 3 and New vegas also come to mind
Piss filter is shit. Hated it back then still hate it now.
Piss filter is MGS is a deliberate choice to make game look like archive footage. Removal of it misses the point, like removal of fog in SH2.
Just slap a day one sepia Reshade on it. Delta is too HD to look like archive footage anyway. Both in fidelity and resolution.
>animations ripped from MGSV
>cutscenes ripped from the pachinko
>stock UE graphics
>stock UE store assets
>no additional gameplay mechanics or content
that'll be $60
Ill gladly pay 70 dollars for it.
There were new mechanics in the trailer
>frieren FOTM Black person
>moronic post
checks out
moronic ape
shills will keep shilling
morons will keep buying
$60? I think you're mistaken sir, this masterpiece is going to be $69.99 at the least!
>bottom genuinely looks better
it genuinely looks like ass
I bet you're an Indian.
And they hated him because he told the truth.
based
i always hated MGS3's piss filter
unlike most of the replying homosexuals that propably never played it anyway and just watched some video essay on it.
>just watched some video essay on it
Same place most of these gays get their opinions as well.
>i always hated MGS3's piss filter
You are not a real fan and you are a homosexual play pretending. You didn't play this back in the day. It was before piss filter era and it's only during certain scenes during the day
If you suggest colouring some black and white movie because you don't personally like it, people will say you're a moron. But gamers demanding old games must look photoreal or maximally pleasing is normal. I wonder why the difference
>It was before piss filter era
Thank frick someone here actually remembers 2004. People truly don't remember how distinct Snake Eater was
Not him, but I absolutely did play it - and think the color filter looks hideous. Piss filters are cancer every fricking time.
I did play back in the day but never finished it because i just can't see whats so masterclass about it when MGS2kino exists, i did replay it and finished this time earlier this year on PC though but modded the soulless piss filter out
3 > 2 > 1 > 4 > 5 > PW > Acid
2 > V > 4 > 3 > 1 > PW
MGS1 > MGS3 > MGS2 > MGS4 > PW > MG2 > MG1 > GZ >>>>>>>> TPP
Drink bleach homosexual
Corporate shills at it again
>Wow piss filter gays are all tasteless scum
Color me fricking surprised.
This. Goes to show how mindlessly contrarian Ganker is
>bloomy piss filter bad
>old bloomy piss filter good
>all those replies
How to bait a contrarian, piss filter homosexual to out xirself. Good work.
I agree
This. I hate filters.
go outside then instead of trying to ruin videogames
/thread
Contrarianism needs to STOP.
That's all Ganker is.
>changing original artistic intent is good actually
I hope game you like gets localized by sweetbabyinc, homosexual
die in a ditch bug man
>reply near the top of the thread is full of obvious samegay responses agreeing
What's tiresome is how awful this site has become.
Aesthetic >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphics
Though I do agree bottom looks much better but it simply lacks stye
top one verily indicates the mood and setting while bottom is straightforward with their approach for lack of a better word
Kojima put the aesthetic of spaghetti western into a spy stealth game
>Tranime
checks out
Actually bottom looks like shit and you need to kill your self
I'm tired of pretending it doesn't
also I’m trans btw
I bet these fricks are gonna have this dumb argument about piss filter again when Capcom reveal RE5 Remake
delta looks like shit
Actually looks good, sadly.
>t. discordtroon
>let's get rid of the gritty grindhouse colors and aesthetic and make this gritty horror video game look rainbow-colorful and happy!
can you gladly have a nice day, sir? it would make the world a much better place without moron like you in it
Nonteal version is much better.
>t. slopconsoomer
top
>shows the intensity of the horror of war. you can sense the feeling of dread much better by just looking at the actor's face with proper dramatic lighting and visual effects
bottom
>generic flat image recorded by a home video camera
Top's filter is meant for scifi shit
2blue
The pachinko version did it first and better
I hope they add a nice AAA graphics gas over everything
In literally no way is this true. The top has better textures and lighting.
I never want to back to gloom and bloom military brown/grey/pee. Colorful things are nice.
Top is objectively more colorful
Yeah it's got a high saturation of piss-yellow
I'm more concerned with how UE makes it so people only know how to give steely stares or scream like psych ward patients getting electro therapy.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUH PISS FILTER BRING IT BAAAAAACK
just use reshade and add a piss filter if you miss it that much.
Now we like the piss filters huh
zoomers pretending to be boomers ftw
nah cuh they be coomer zoomers pretending to be doomer boomers. gotta get with that cloomer gloomer soomer loomer noomer voomer vibe fr
Both are shit how do you even come up with its one or the other.
Metal Gear Solid and Kojima were ALWAYS pushing realism in his games you idiot. The bottom is basically what a game made after MGSV would've looked like regardless. This is like the worst fricking game to make your point with.
>ALWAYS pushing realism in his games
Yes and god bless that was reigned in by ps1/2 limitations so they had to put effort into also applying an aesthetically pleasing art style. You can see this clearly with The Boss. She no longer looks like some badass iconic video game character and now just looks like another face scanned boring normal person.
>realism
Only by the time of MGS4. All the games prior stylized their characters somewhat or entirely because of limitations and development factors. The MGS2 cast is supposed to be "realistic", but they straight up do not look an inch like real people and more like Shinkawa designs put into 3D models. Raiden in particular simply cannot be construed as realistic in visuals.
>more like Shinkawa designs put into 3D models
No, they don't.
>piss filter is le good when muh heckin visionary does it!
>original = snake
>remake = brick wall
???
This is Demon's Souls all over again. That remake is dope as well. Everything we've been shown of this looks amazing and 1:1 outside of the lighting choices and eye bleeding visuals. I loved the original DeS just like I love the remake(Outsode of some artistic choices that I preferred in the original like the Fat Official and Garls design)and the way this remake is being presented looks exactly the same. It's a game built on the skeleton of the original but with V's mechanics. I can't for the life of me imagine anyone with even a passing interest in MGS not being excited for it.
> I can't for the life of me imagine anyone with even a passing interest in MGS not being excited for it.
because some people are not mentally ill and played this game 20 years ago and they don't want to support a creative bankruptcy and milking. Because it doesn't look superior it just looks modern. Because V's mechanic will not work with MGS3 environments and gameplay just how Twin Snakes gameplay does not work with environments, AI and mechanics from MGS1. You stupid fricking Black person
>demon souls
if you dont understand why DeS remake is vastly inferior to the original, you are genuinely moronic
>b***h about how the old filter is gone
>half of naked snake's face is basically yellow blur in the original
It was supposed to help with the 1960s film aesthetic like a color-degraded Bond film, but frick it, the old filter was goddamn horrible. And classic mode might just still have it intact.
Pretty cool they're including legacy style.
The overhead style was awful for this setting, I cannot play this game unless it's the Subsistence version of the PS2 game.
I want a classic Subsistence version, the camera style should just be toggable.
Where the hell is this video from? I don't remember seeing anything technical about this game before, just cinematic trailers.
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Thanks
Man, his voice is still there. I wish they'd record some new bonus codex lines or whatever.
That looks nice
you know, of all things retro you didn't have to defend that.
So how does everyone feel about his updated model?
Honestly he looks even more like the inspiration for Snake ironically, and I'll take it over the Pachislot's "evolution" of KeiferSnake. We really gotta see him in action though since the cutscene snippets make him look a little frog-eyed whenever he blinks so far from the PS2 motion data on such a different model.
>We really gotta see him in action though
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This shows him off a lot.
looks like that guys from 41 now, instead of original snake. He's also missing the lines that branch out from his eyes that he used to have. It was Big Boss and Solid Snakes most distinctive feature. They also gave him some hooked nose instead of the thin aquiline nose he used to have. Don't really like it personally.
Understandable, I think he looks dope personally, but you're not wrong his face definitely looks somewhat different. I think that's the price you pay for such a jump in visual fidelity though. The Boss always kind of had a grizzled Cate Blanchet thing going and I feel the new model lives up to that as well. I personally like everything I've seen so far. Looking forward to seeing Volgin, Eva, their take on the Fear. The Sorrow.
>They also gave him some hooked nose
how the frick is that a hooked nose?nlmao homie you blind
Nah BB model has more of a hook nose than Solid's. This new model is more accurate
the new model lacks the lines leading from the crows feet under his eyes to his mouth. Also old peoples noses tend to become like that in old age. Young big boss had the same aquiline nose as solid snake
face: ok
hair: too anime
face camo looks like an afterthought and needs work
>hair: too anime
This man has never seen Kurt Russel in his prime.
That hair is called 'feathered'. It's a thing done in real life.
best iteration of big boss, doesn't look like the solidus model from 2 too much, doesn't look too much like solid, doesn't look at all like kiefer snake, and looks like the younger version of mgs4 big boss
>doesn't look too much like solid
Solid is supposed to look like him, they're near exact copies. Its why liquid and solid have the same face model. They copies of big boss.
He's right though they do all have subtle differences. Clones or no.
part of the reveal from mgs2 to mgs3 is that he looks identical to solid snake and people are then surprised to find out you're playing as solid snakes dad, since he just looks like him and everyone thought it was his game.
But we've seen them older and in various forms and their lives and lived experiences make them look different. Old Snake doesn't look exactly like BB. All I'm saying.
it was the stache. And iirc solid snake is older than big boss in mgs4, due to the advanced aging shit. If they were the same age they'd likely look identical. Minus the horrible mustache snake had going on.
You're right, the Werner syndrome did advance him rapidly, either way I still think there are differences. Their have to be from a design standpoint. Of course that's mostly haircuts and facial hair, but it all still goes a long way from differentiating them.
It does go a long way. Like how Jack in rdr1 actually looks like a young version of John, but Javiers facial hair and a similar style to dutch makes people doubt it.
This is the best looking shot of him I’ve seen, some of the character models look a bit final fantasy elsewhere
Excellent
Looks good. I think the animations are a bit.. jerky as of now. But his aesthetic is good.
Unironically just piss on your monitor.
How does the soldier know there's a knife at the back of his neck? How would you even kill someone with one move with a knife, blade first, to someone's neck?
Don't hang out on /gif/ a lot do you. One swipe or stab to the right spot and it's a fountain. Literally draining your life. Making you weak, unable to speak, etc.
All he can do in this situation is move the blade across the back of the neck, not stab an artery. Also he can't do shit if the soldier just moves away to the right or kneels down.
If you say so. There's legit hundreds of recorded instances of killing people due to neck trauma on the internet right now, anon. A knife to your neck is a knife to your neck. Period.
>How would you even kill someone with one move with a knife, blade first, to someone's neck?
Drag a SHARP blade across your palm with light force, and then imagine the same done to the back of your neck with more force applied. What do you think it will do to all the nerves, blood vessels, tendons and muscles in your neck?
There's this thing called a "spine" that would protect you from a vertical slice across the back of the neck.
>vertical
I meant horizontal.
Also with the force you could exert from this position the most you could do is cut some skin. Let's be honest - it's a moronic stance only meant to look cool for the game.
>Let's be honest
>the most you could do is cut some skin
Autism. Certified even.
it's not really a stance in that moment, it's more of a hostage and shield grip thing. honestly, CQC in general in the entire cinematography fails for this specific scene because it just feels like Snake is barely doing anything (he isn't even gripping the guy that shoots into the air) and the GRU team are morons getting playground tapped down
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My point exactly. Reminds me of old spy/action movies where Bond or Seagal lightly taps someone and they fall unconscious.
Does anyone know the name of the girl in this one?
Yurizan Beltran if I remember correctly.
>cut some skin
Disregarding how unlikely that stance seems for a "control position", if Snake would slice downward across his neck, it would almost certainly split open a jugular vein.
You do notice that the knife is to one side of his neck? You don't go through the spine, you rip through the flesh, making the victim drown in in his own blood. Theres major arteries there that kill you in seconds when destroyed.
I'd stop if I were you at this point. You know that friend/guy on the internet that will argue till he's blue in the face over an accepted fact simply cause they can't stand being wrong. This is the same kind if person that's an "expert" on everything and knows all about it if you'll just listen to him. My friend Tim used to be just like that. Spouting "facts" about shit he had no clue about.
Don't stifle the discussion you fricking Black person redditor. both of these people have never experienced real life combat with a melee weapon or have been in a situation like OP's picrel, who cares about which arm-chair expert is right? both of them can be wrong for all we know, the topic doesn't fricking matter. what matters is the debate in and of itself. and you're shutting it down like a israelite because
>Hurr I'm so smart for putting a halt to people exchanging information, they should be born with a knowledge of all things like me
Hey alright.
Holy frick the remake looks far less interesting. I've never played this game before but when I do it will be on the PS2
you could just buy the Master Collection that has HD versions of the originals, and mod the problems out if you get it on PC.
yes, they are quite literally going to be selling two different versions of the same core game at the same time
>UE
I will NOT buy your game
You could fix that in 10 seconds with a reshade piss filter
>realistic
it looks like they were filmed in a green screen studio under huge lights. MGSV is one of the only AAA games I've played that had genuinely naturalistic lighting with appropriate tone and contrast, this looks like cheap hollywood slop
Is that blood anon? You actually took hits in the game and considered it finished?
It's honestly crazy how Jimbo spent so much of Konami's money on developing the FOX engine and they decided never to touch it again after Survive. You'd think they would've wanted to get some mileage out of it.
>tfw kojima locked the engine access with password he took with him so they only managed to make survive from recycled assets that were lying around.
FOX engine is hell to develop for, that's why V is so repetitive.
Actually Konami kept using the FOX Engine for the PES games.
grim
Well you can't say they don't look good at least.
People are unironically clamoring for the piss filter to come back, amazing.
No, I demand it, and if they implement it, I still wont buy the game
its already in there you Black personhomosexual
if you morons check Konami's site you can turn it back on
The Boss doesn't look good in this game...what happened to her golden locks?!
why does snake look like the mc of the last final fantasy game
im sick of vidya game "lighting" in general
Its always fricking terrible.
This type of lighting would make some sense if there's lots of dust or moisture in the air, but devs insist doing it with every single environment.
That's because you don't play videogames and don't understand game design 101.
>Povertyrig Ganker user that's been shilling using bargain bin 1080p monitors for 15 years and calling everything else a meme because he's poor suddenly understands why people actually upgrade to superior shit like HDR
frick you i'll die before admitting volumetrics don't make everything look scenic af
It's weird seeing the difference between "PS2 model that looks like he's going to murder you" and "normal gruff guy"
I was pleasantly surprised to see they included the original viewpoint/camera, even though I'll be playing through it the first time with the new camera.
i like both
Looks genuinely good. I wasn't expecting much, but I'll be keeping my eye on this from now on.
So far the only thing that concerns me is that bridge scene with the boss. It should be daylight outside and perfectly visible, looks like silent Hill in that image.
They're next a waterfall. Fog like that can happen depending on time a day. Boss kind of walks out of the black anyhow.
yo is that the fricking anti-soul gas in the second pic
So is Delta just a Remaster with new textures? Nothing looks new
Watch the 10 min long interview with Hayter released yesterday, moron
Why would the VA know anything? They don't develop the game or play it before anyone else. Did he at least record any new lines? Shame the Colonels JP VA died so he won't get anything new.
>Why would the VA know anything
He's reading a script, moron.
VAs don't get the complete script or record scenes in chronological order. He recorded his lines 20 years ago for this game.
Did they exactly bring him back to record new lines or everything still reused from the original?
So far everything appears to be reused.
probably only 4th wall tutorials like "press select button"
>"Press the capture button to record that then press the home button to view your replay"
Recycled voice lines.
Hayter says something about
>Almost all original voice work
so I'm wondering what's been removed or maybe they couldn't get the rights to.
Probably the Theater meme skits, snake vs monkey etc
We don't even know who voices Eva to this day so I doubt she'll ever come back and Lori Alan doesn't sound anything like she used to.
You stupid mother fricker. This is some Laurel And Hardey shit.
That's the fricking point moron.
The textures and lighting are updated. Voice Acting is the same but remastered. Music is rerecorded. Gameplay appears to still the same thing with updated modern controls.
This actually DOES look nice but I wish they did went for similar colour filter that the older game went for.
explain why in detail
To match my nostalgia on how I viewed the game originally.
you actually want the game to look like this?
not that guy but the edited pics on the right look nothing like the ones on the left. og MGS3 has a unique color grading and all textures are colored to match the art style of Shinkawa's artworks
Not really. Its just green and yellow filter. This isnt fallout, no need for puke and piss colours to dominate the scene.
I know that your post is just an obvious bait but I will reply anyway. This has been said a thousand times on this board but since this thread is full of underaged discord users who don't know how to read, I will say it again for every one of those monkeys, including you. MGS3 doesn't use any filters. It uses color grading and all the textures in the game are colored to fit the art style. It has the distinctive visual style of old 60 era spy movies and invokes the depressing atmosphere of the 60s military Russia setting. It has an actual art style unlike the default store Unreal Engine asset flip made by nobodies for easy money
>It uses color grading
aka filters 🙂
Is that a hoichi face paint?
Rad.
This is proof that video games were art, if they were not then the leftists would have had nothing to destroy just like modern architecture.
Guy who uses UE here. You can make the lightning however you want. It still has all the old stuff, everything new can be disabled, you could even make your own plug in that does things xyz way. Also what you are talking about isn't even done on the engine side. You are talking about how textures react to light. It would be the same if they used unity. It all looks like this because the dev wants it to. If UE did not exist they would use something else and it would still look like this. So you don't hate UE you just hate all developers. And all games. And probably yourself. I would too if I was you.
Frick you it looks great, can't wait to play it
Why, you can play it already!
bottom looks TERRIBLE but it still looks better than top
>Bring back piss filter
why do people pretend anyone liked that shit at any point?
Why do we suddenly miss the piss filter again?
We don't, it's miserable homosexuals that want every game to be bad.
Why is it bad?
Because it looks like piss all over the screen?
Why is that bad?
I like seeing a color palette that just isn't shades of yellow piss.
Should every game be as colorful as possible to maximize your enjoyment?
Not every game, but for something like the MG series yeah I think natural hues are a good way to go. See how good Phantom Pain looked comparatively.
Wouldn't MGSV benefit from a color palette that emphesizes its setting, time period and themes?
I don't think so. It looks pretty damn good with it's palette now.
Why not replace the iDroid-style, almost diegetic UI by something more minimalistic? Why have deliberate lighting in cutscenes and some missions, like "Shining Lights, Even in Death", when you could just have the Sun and some incidental light bulbs illuminate everything? Why have music at all? All of those things, including color grading, are meant to enhance the experience that the game is trying to convey.
Well that's the thing. The piss filter doesn't enhance the experience, it takes away from it. There are times when it can work, and MGS just isn't one of them. Just imagine how shit the Fallout games would look if there was this perpetual black and white filter over everything because color grading "enhances" the experience.
>There are times when it can work
Great, so you agree.
I never said that it couldn't, just that it would look shit on MGSV.
What about MGSV makes it impossible to color grade and have it look good? Color grading doesn't just mean piss filter.
I don't know what you want me to say. I just don't think it would look good. Color grading is an unnecessary add-on to an already gorgeous game.
It's all down to taste with a lot of thise stuff. I personally love the style Ueda used for ICO/Shadow/TLG, but I'm not crazy about bloom in most games. I think it's all about how it's implemented. That goes the same for the more naturalistic colors and lighting in the remake, which I think look great as well.
You can that say it's subjective, a matter of taste, but it doesn't change the fact that the color grading in MGS3 was used to reflect its setting and time period.
I want you to say it can look good, you already did say that.
I never once said that it couldn't look good lmao. See here
I've been consistently saying that I don't think it would look good with MGSV in particular. Stop putting words in my mouth.
>it would look good with MGSV in particular
Why?
It is a tool in the artist's arsenal that they did not use, despite it being a prominent part of the original.
I just don't think so. It looks good as is.
Could it look better?
I don't know. I just know that if everything was cast in hues of yellows, browns, or orange it would look shit.
>color grading = yellows, browns, or orange
Ah, yes... All three colors...
How would you color grade MGSV then?
If I had to, it would be something done on scene by scene basis, with colors akin to 80s war movies. Something to highlight the hotness of Afghanistan and Angola-Zaire border region. Besides, the game already does have muted color palette, it's subtle but you can see it when comparing it to pre-release promotional footage.
Color grading doesn't just mean the colors of your excrements.
It is subjective on whether or not you like it. Clearly. I personally love the original and how it looks and sounds. I'm also loving how the remake looks.
nta, but if Gears of War of all things dropped its strict gray-and-brown color tones, degrading writing quality aside and all that, I'd think people in general would be sick of games being mostly one primary color from grading.
That's the thing, the aversion that the piss filters cause stems etirely from the fact that every game in mid 00s looked like that.
Because zoomies are now old enough to think their opinions matter, and they were five years old when piss and bloom were trending.
>piss filter = LE SOVL
zoom zoom
I've replayed MGS3 last week. I can't believe how good the game looks despite being 20 years old. Video game graphics absolutely peaked with Snake Eater.
It absolutely still holds up, which is why I'm even more excited for Delta. Since they're making it 1:1 I'll just get a different version with realistic mud and shit. Pretty hyped. Cautiously optimistic for SH2 as well. Way less sure about it though since there's a lot more room to frick up there.
>snake eater
Heh hehheh
GAYYYY
Was MGS3 the original piss filter game?
UE is capable of recreating your precious piss filter. The devs simply don't want to do it.
I'm sick of people blaming UE for all the problems.
Good thing you can play the original or it's rereleases.
I'm also sick of UE, but missing the brown and bloom piss filter? This has to be bait.
Anon, you've lost weight. I can tell just by the way you're typing.
Boss, I...
But how do those caecel feces taste?
you morons realize the top is edited for the sake of baiting replies right?
in fact I think that image gets more compressed and yellow each time I see it posted lmao
okay, you want to say that then here's the best i can get on short notice. firefox was b***hing about the 4k so i had to settle for 1440p
>nooooooo mommy i want the pissfilter back
Mgs3 fans are a joke
>outsourced to some random studio in singapore with no input from the original devs
any decision they make is automatically wrong
Cope, it looks amazing.
Soul requires art direction, art direction requires artists
trailer made me want to give MGS3 another try. for a good while it was the only stealth game I could enjoy. then it got boring and trivial, will try to play it again with a different perspective.
I'm also wondering what's taking so long, game looks finished. I don't think I'd hate game reveals so much if not for the fact that so many of them are like "coming 2026" anyway
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>man can't wait for graphics to get better in the future!
>No not like that!
Make up your mind. I bet if a sexy waifu game used the same lighting, you'd be okay with it.
Its always been aesthetic > realism, you dumb Black person
Name one recent game that is gud and does that
>recent
none, because they keep pandering to realism gays like you
Good. VIDEO games should look good.
Exactly.
Thats why aethetic (artsyle) > realism.
ggez
Graphics peaked in 2007 with Crisis, it's never going to be better than that. Not with our current state of "basedence". And chinks only know how to copy, they won't innovate either even if they don't have diversity hires.
>UE realistic lighting
AAAAAAAAAHHH
>Fox Engine realistic lighting
Yesss.....
>What is this fairy disguise?
>PISS FILTER GOOD WHEN MY NOSTALGIA IS INVOLVED
Nevermind that, his hair looks ass.
still buying
>we've cycled to the point where zoomers are now nostalgic for and call yellow piss filter soul
>What the frick happened to the soul?
A. I destroyed it, as it must in order to take the apex species throne.
The remake just hits the uncanny valley for me. In motion it looks even more wrong and I can't put my finger on why. No, it's not nostalgia, I've never played MGS3 in the first place.
it's probably a mix of things. for one thing, it was a frickin PS2 game and all of the motion data is exactly 1:1. they tweaked the lip sync to be accurate to the voice over and altered expressions a bit, but this means everyone in the game is running on animations from 2004 for blocky character assets and faces that you can almost count the polygons on.
now all of that is put to high-fidelity models that straight up are mimicking the OG animations when it isn't new stuff inserted into gameplay, and Snake's blinking in particular just looks eerie because his face structure is entirely different between his new Kurt Russell-esque look versus the angry death glare original.
>new thing bad
>muh SOVL
I still remember when this board used to make fun of piss filters.
>piss filter = soul
A stylistic choice that looks fine I'm both in my opinion. Take Blade Runner for example. The original uses a more naturalistic tone and lighting while 2049 uses yellows and oranges. I love both.
2049 is a sequel not a remake, dumpass
No shit, but it's all about stylistic choices you mongoloid.
this has actual dark shadows / contrast unlike most modern games.
>game gets remade
>not expecting the graphics to look realistic
Come on, back then in the PS2 era games like MGS, DMC and RE were realistic, now in the future we have the technology to make games look realistic and you don't want that? Did you want the graphics to look like a gacha phone game or something?
They should tease RE5R right now complete with the piss filter and Ganker will b***h at it, at least it will be amusing seeing you morons be contrarians when presented with 2 choices.
Stop staring at single frames of shit out of context, it just gets worse no matter what the longer you look at it. It looks fine in motion, just wear some yellow tinted glasses if it bothers you so much.
What is the probleme is not UE but the devs?
So you're going to fight The End, huh?
Oops, I don't think you can set your system clock forwards on consoles now, can you?
>not killing him in the wheelchair and dodging the wheel
It'd be cool if they added a mechanic where you can interact with his watch like in V. That's how you'd kill him that particular way here.
>didnt set up his PS2 emulator correctly
>25 years ago everything except the MC was blurry because hardware was shit and we couldn't afford high res textures
>today everything is blurry because of 'filmic' DoF
kek
feels good to be able to disable that shit on PC
I'm sure there will be a piss filter option, anon. Looked like it was on when showing the alternate legacy camera angles.
Someone will make a bloom mod that washes out all the detail for you don't worry!
Just be happy the devs are finally listening to (you). We said we didn't want piss filters and brown poop filters for years, r-r-remember, Ganker?
OLD GOOD NEW BAD OLD GOOD NEW BAD OLD GOOD NEW BAD OLD GOOD NEW BAD
If this MGS game wasn't a remake, people would be making the onions face at how great the game looks
exactly. Thats why you should make a new game instead of remaking a beloved classic
2expensive, TPP couldn't even get finished
the piss filter in 3 never sat well with me. It does make sense since it's going back to the 60s, but I loved the cyber blue aesthetic of MGS1 and 2.
>unironically defending piss filter
Kill everyone ITT
honestly the only the game where i genuinely love piss filter is DX:HR
It's more golden there, so I agree.
You forget how brief the brown n bloom fad was. It was shit then, it's even shittier now. I go to great lengths to erase that fricking brown on old games on my rig. You're a delusional, contrarian troony. Go frick yourself.
Why doesn’t it look like bodily waste????
Cope Black person.
>NOOOOOO
>NOT MY HECKING PISS FILTER
The cold, hard truth is that cinematic color grading does not work in the medium of video games. Grading works when when it's performed by hand to match the specific content of the image, and grading for film gives you complete control over the image. Grading for games is doesn't give you that degree of control, and usually all it does is impinge upon the quality of the image. Unless you're making a movie-game, you cannot predict the camera's perspective. You cannot predict anything beyond the broad strokes of a given area. The granularity of game color grading begins and ends with switching LUTs when the player walks from one area to another.
The best thing you can do is give players a neutral, naturalistic image and let them do what they want with it.
You could claim the opposite by using the same argument, color grading brings the picture together and allows everything to evoke a similar feeling regardless of the camera angle or lighting conditions. Like in your example where crushed blacks stand out in a brightly lit environment.
yeah all we really need is a photo mode.
that way, neutral can be neutral, then green can be green, and yellow can be yellow, and the different areas and places you go to can have filters placed on them for screenshots. and if a good reshade can come out I don't see a problem with the game having more natural colors. especially considering the level of detail on everything, I want to make sure I can see it all objectively
>switching luts one area to the next
In Nier Replicant the coloration just slams into you when you walk into the desert area. It's so sudden I laugh
You know they'll have an optional piss filter. Every game does it now (and no one ever uses them).
I always hated the piss filter for 3. Makes it look like a hot rainforest. It's a fictional place but it's supposed to loosely be around Chechnya in the forest/mountain areas. Everyone's wearing clothes for warm weather. No piss filter makes it look more like Russia to me.
>hot rainforest.
which it fricking is with fricking crocodiles and giant snakes moron
nah, it's not. that's just a stylistic choice and there are crocs in Russia.
You can see their breath from the cold weather a bunch of times. That's why snake's wearing sleeves.
You do know they're in russia, right? lol
dipshit there's an in game explanation and it's specifically stated that it's a tundra like fictional location with high temperatures. It's supposed to feel warm so you don't question why is snake not freezing to death when he gets out of water moron
What the frick is that shoulder on the bottom
I'm alright with the exclusion of the piss filter in all games
Zoomers are the only ones hating on the piss filters because they grew up with PS3s/XBOX360s and all of their games looked like this.
I always thought Snake Eater was obviously going for a vintage look. It's sepia and browns and shit extends to the ui, the intro, and the briefing slides during cutscenes, etc. I remember literally assuming this when I first played it.
Did people who dislike the colours of Snake Eater just never see this, or has the 'piss filter' phenomenon a whole console generation later sort of retroactively ruin Snake Eater?
Mgs 1 is obviously intentionally all blues and greens, and iirc Phantom Pain was going to have a 80s vhs filter or whatever. Seems pretty intentional to me.
>or has the 'piss filter' phenomenon a whole console generation later sort of retroactively ruin Snake Eater?
People didn't connect it to Snake Eater back then, I think a lot of people who played the game at the time understood what you just highlighted. I was a kid when I player MGS3 and I got it.
I genuinely can't believe Ganker has reached the level of contrarianism to defend the piss filter that plagued so many videogames a decade and a half ago.
Ganker is full of homosexuals that hate everything. If Snake Eater was in line against whatever they weer trying to defend, it would be trash too. It really doesn't matter. They're just bitter and depressed people that don't even play video games anymore. If they ever.
because you are underaged and talking out of your ass. That's not a piss filter and it was way before piss filter even became a thing you stupid moron
Top's color filter always looked like shit, and I'm tired of you gays pretending it didn't. The yellow/brown filter in MGS3 was always ugly, and I've owned the game since it's initial release on PS2. You gays are always gonna find something to b***h and whine about. This looks objectively better, and plus there are color filter options in the remake you can enable if you truly miss everything looking like it was peed on.
>The yellow/brown filter in MGS3 was always ugly,
homie are you seriously this disingenuous? The game was literally one of the best looking game at the time filter or not. I'm not defending le filter, but the bottom looks murky , shitty and without color to which i would rather prefer yellow sunlight thank you
not to mention top oozing style while bottom looks like every other UE game
You'll be able to mod a piss filter onto it
>The piss filter is okay when Japan does it!
>20 years pass
>Piss filter good
>YELLOW PAINT BAD!
>PISS FILTER GOOD!
Looks like shit. People defending it remind me of the absolute tasteless Black person cattle that liked the fable anniversary edition.
What’s the bottom screen shot supposed to be of? I don’t see anyone, just a shoulder.
This is what you came to complain about today? God damn you zoomers are insufferable.
I can’t wait for everyone to hate mgs3 by the time its released. I’m already sick of seeing Hayter parading himself in front of a camera again.
>top
>fierce eyes and emotions on his face
>bottom
>lifeless eyes and expressionless face
every single time
>Noooo, muh piss filter
You think the natural lighting is the meme and not the brown and bloom from that era? Cause I know which one Kojima would go with now
Kojima is irrelevant to Metal Gear's quality.
>from that era
Name one game.
If this is what you mongoloids are b***hing about then I'm actually excited for this game. We'll, not as excited as I use to be for new games bit still.
They should've remade MG and MG2
>gamers being tasteless morons
wow, who could have seen that coming
Left is better.
you grew up. You are supposed to be taking care of your child instead of whining about videotoys on the internet at your current age
Is it only a piss filter because it's yellow?
Or does MGS1 have a blue piss filter?
>a blue piss filter?
are you guys genuinely moronic to the point where you don't know why the "piss filter" was used?
do you think that's just what mgs3 looks like all the time?
cause it isn't, there's a variety of color filters that are applied in specific scenes to better convey the kind of atmosphere the environment is meant to exude.
you'll notice that when you're in Groznyj Grad the palette is noticeably duller and there's no over the top filter applied precisely so it can convey how dingy and artificial the place is, vs the location in the OP which is supposed to be a luscious jungle, you can practically imagine what some of the locations in MGS3 smell like just off the filter alone.
Before this thread I'd never ever seen anyone complain about MGS3 because of "piss filters"
>it's the nincels
of course
oh my god it looks SO good
yes
I remember when Fable was called Project Ego and Peter Molyneaux was saying you're character would tan if they were outside too long and if you got into a sword fight you'd keep that scar for the rest of the time as your character grew up all bullshit of course so I'm curious just how far they actually went here. Pretty dope if true.
The scar thing was real. But the tanned stuff wasn't.
HOLY SHIT i love how realistic it looks, this is what i always wanted this game to look like
Keep yapping nincel
What? I'm agreeing with you the remake looks great.
>extra cuts that make the scene harder to understand
For what fricking purpose? The original is still chaotic but readable. The new one has such random and disorienting cuts to new angles.
There's the same amount of cuts, count them. Remake ones just happen sooner.
ai comment
Post the video, the game in this image is hilarious, I'd love to play it.
Nevermind, I found it myself.
>That boost jump thing at the end that's clearly just one of the stock things from whatever package he's using
Christ man, how hard would have been to even put a random sphere half in the ground with a mushroom spot texture on it?
Looks great.
Piss filter, my beloved.
piss filter = soul 🙂
I'm a bit miffed that it's a 1:1 remake like Demon's Souls but you're fricking insane if you don't think this looks visually great, and yes I played the original back in the day. The pic in OP literally looks like those 2000's FMV CGI cutscenes you wish were in-game when you were a kid
You are stupid. You said Demon's Souls was a 1:1 remake. That's a stupid thing to say.
He's right though, it was. It was built on the skeleton of the old game. Like Shadow Of The Colossus was.
I like shitting on new games because my PC is from 2014 and I can't play new games.
piss filter looks like shit dude, kys
>piss filter is... le soul
I hate larping zoomies so goddamn much
It is, yes.
1 > 3 > 2 > 4 > MG2 > GZ > TP > PW > MG
Oh cool, we agree on the order of the main 4.
>Ganker is now nostalgic for piss filter
piss filter being everywhere was the subsequent generation.
Always looking for the next contrarian thing
>expression lost
This is typical for remakes. The artists more or less do a great job but the details and finer touches are lost because you need someone on the team who cares enough to make sure they're included.
Why do zoomers hate color grading?
luv me MGS 1
luv me MGS 2
luv me MGS 3
luv me MGS 4
luv me MGS V
luv me MGR
simple as
Any news about Master Collection pt. 2?
No, they said they're working on fixing the issues for part 1 first.
I was hoping they would release pt.2 before mgs3 remake
Still a very big possibility. Delta is a ways away.
What I'm really curious about is how some of the more unambiguously game-y elements of the game have been recreated.
Is all food still stored in universal ration containers once it's ready to be picked up?
What does it look like when you throw a live snake against a guard now?
Bottom is genuinely better. Top is like when shows and movies throw on a piss filter whenever they go to Mexico.
WHERE ARE MY GUNNARS
Bottom looks so much better and you can add the devs confirmed you can add the piss filter if you want to
>go outside at dusk
>piss filter over the everything
What the frick Ganker I thought that wasn't realisitc.
Orangish pink, not matrix piss.
>remove piss filter
>N-N-NOOO PUT IT BACK ITS SOULLESS NOW
>ironic shitpost is actually real and genuinely looks worse
lol
They both look like shit. The early 2000s play doh characters never looked good
>hurrr they're both shit
look man I'm not here to argue with you about how good you think 25 year old games look today, just showing how adding a little color correction to the scene is probably preferable to the whole game looking like it takes place in your neighbor's garage.
Twin Snakes was awesome, best MGS game.
>piss filter is soul
I hate zoomers
They turned solid snake into a final fantasy character.
Just like with RE4 and TTYD. I'll never touch the original Snake Eater again when this drops. Maybe I would if OG babies didn't act like insufferable b***hes all the time when a remake happens. When will you gays learn to grow up? OG fans should be more mature than this one would think but they act like teenage children
Am I supposed to be impressed by how you spend your time?
I'm spending the rest of my afternoon jacking it to Chloe Surreal how does that make you feel?
I imagine the piss filter option will be selected at the New Game screen under the questionnaire that the original game had.
>Which MGS game do you like the best?
>"For me, it's MGS!" (scan lines effect)
>"For me, it's MGS2!"(teal piss filter)
>"For me, it's MGS3!"(piss and bloom filter)
>"For me, it's MGS4!"(washed COD poo filter)
>"For me, it's MGSV!"(shakey cam and lense flare)
kino options, too bad konami are greedy moronic fricks without hackjima sucking out budgets out of them
It takes no time to do a piss filter. Every game does it now it feels like. More likely the piss filter is already in the options and they'll announce it, pretending they put it in because people asked for it.
There's a deep dive on MGS3 today on XBOX official channel.
I never liked the MGS3 proto-piss filter.
discordtroons and shilljeets got the order to just spam piss filter to drown out how soulless and generic the demake looks
>Game uses color grading and colored textures
>No one complains about it
>Everyone says that it looks like one of the most beautiful video games ever crafted both graphically and art style-wise
>20 years pass
>The series dies just like all the other Konami properties because of the israeli greed of Japanese higher-ups at the company
>Zoomers are born and trying to fit into the fandom of the old thing
>AAAAAAAAA PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER >PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER!
>DELETE IT! IF THE GAME HAS AN ACTUAL ART STYLE THEN IT MEANS THAT IT USES PISS FILTER! NO, I DON'T KNOW IF THE GAME ACTUALLY USES IT OR NOT BUT I'M ALMOST SURE IT DOES BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A DEFAULT ASSET STORE UNREAL ENGINE TECH DEMO!
slit the throats of everyone born after the year 2000
Brown and bloom was always mocked on Ganker
Literally no one has ever complained about MGS3 being brown. Ever since 2004, everyone has been saying how great the game looks and how beautiful the art style is. You zoomers who can't even tell piss filter and color grading apart, are trying to force some incredibly weird revision history
I'm 33. I think old MGS3 looks good and I think the new one looks good too.
Things are more nuanced than the average Ganker user can comprehend.
The original had artistic intent and it wasn't just a piss filter, the new one has a different direction that also has its merits.
>artistic intent
lol, just lmao. no such thing in 2024. pure content creation mentality.
In my post artistic intent was referring to the original.
The new ones merits are to seek the game to shit taste normalhomosexuals who love sucking down slop
it's the pajeet shill talking point
they gotta push that shit and pretend the original was worse
>complains about jeets
>zoomers and balding millenials don't know people did actually dislike the piss filter
clown
lol you're using HD collection as an example. It has way less piss filter. OG mgs3 had way more bloom and orange green poo color.
Yeah, these homosexuals can't tell the difference between piss filters and artistic intent.
The characters are even designed to follow the color scheme of the game, it's not just a filter.
lmao wrong. kajumbo talked about this in the making of mgs3. it is a piss filter. it was originally going to be on the ps3 and he hated the limitations when it came to color and lighting on the ps2.
source?
It's either the making of MGS3 video, but it might be the making of MGS4 documentary that's in multiple parts on YT. I think it's in that one when he's talking about how mgs3 was planned for the ps3 but they couldn't make it work, and now that they're making mgs4 on the ps4, the ps4 isn't good enough for what they wanted to do.
Both are a good watch.
I meant mgs4 on he ps3, the ps3 isn't good enough.
Lmao Kojima is a moronic hack that was not at all behind everything in his games, definitely not art
I don't even trust Cuckjima talking about "his" own stories why would I trust him talking about art? He once said that he likes Big Boss better because unlike Snake, he is a real human being.
homosexual doesn't even understand the point of MGS1, and he was not the one who should be credited for MGS2 either.
I remember him saying it was because he liked the matrix colors or some shit KEK
>Everyone says that it looks like one of the most beautiful video games ever crafted both graphically and art style-wise
no one said this ever
have a nice day falseflagging zoom zoom
>NOOO NOT MY HECKIN' FILTERINO!
It looks better, beyond the stupid Snake face.
>MUH PISS FILTERRRRRR
Niga open monitor/tv settings and just turn up the gamma, turn down brightness, boost contrast for crushed bloom and blacks, set monitor to "warm", turn tint towards green instead of pinks.
You now have MGS3's original look. I did this with MGSV and it was kino.
>no original creative team involvement
>outsourced to a SEA asset factory
This is like if someone rewrote To Kill a Mockingbird to use AAVE. You guys have fun with this shit I guess
>PISS FILTERS ARE... LE GOOD WHEN MUH KOJIMA DOES IT
Bottom is a million times better. Pissfiltered blown and bloom is shit! SHIT!!!
Pajeet, please calm down.
You're in your 30s, watch your health.
>Game series about real life issues and wars and weapons and killing, the one video game that's like an action movie
>Noooo why'd they make it realistic!
FRICK YOU fake fan morons. MGS was always realistic, only limited by the time's hardware. This is like complaining about how CoD doesn't look like TF2.
most of the people drooling over the piss filter never played the games to begin with
not to mention its still there in the remake lmao
you just have to turn it on
I don't think it looks too bad, but it looks like it has the typical remake problem of the faces looking way less expressive.
But they kept all the same shit, it's a remake that's just a visual uplift really. Maybe also no menu shit and improved controls. I feel like this is the kind of remake Ganker wishes they always got, but of course there's still complaining
Piss filters are not soul.
don't even JOKE about wanting to go back to brown and bloom.
>2024
>still playing demakes
kwab
My logic is
>love MGS3
>replayed it way too many times
>interested in a "remix" of it to play it again
I'll pirate it.
I'll take anything over MGS3's piss filter.
>consooms literal shit instead
that’ll show them
>ctrl+g
>"piss filter"
>103 results
Discord raid zoomers are really losing it, huh. Imagine using this meme term for a video game that doesn't even use a piss filter in the first place. It feels like most of those posts are made by one guy spamming the same sentence over and over
They didn't play the game, they don't realize OP is an edited image.
"Piss filter" is not a "zoomer discord" raid term you mentally ill homosexual, it's been mocked for years
Claiming MGS3 had a piss filter definitely is.
Guys, it finally looks like a movie. Kojima's vision is finally realized.
hire me
NOOO NOT MY EARLY 2000s PISS FILTER AND BLOOOM IM BLOOOOOOMING RN
Looks good, much better than I expected given the state of the Silent Hill 2 remake.
I will now buy your game.
20223
>OMG I'M STICK OF ALL THESE COLOR FILTERS! GIVE ME REAL LIFE LIGHTING!
2024
>OMG GAMES LOST ITS SOUL BECAUSE OF REALISTIC LIGHTING
fixed that for ya!
left: 90s movie
right: 80s movie
troony movie
But the green filter makes sense, they were in the matrix
You guys realize they already confirmed that you can turn the filter back on in the remake, right?
>trust me bro
It looks like the legacy mode has it
but the original didn't have a filter. it had hand-crafted environmental textures with proper colors everywhere. that's what made MGS3 look unique. Delta is just a collection of default Unreal Engine store assets
It did have a filter, it just turned it off or changed it for different sections
>ughhhhhhhhhhh I'm so sick of the good graphics meme DAE le bad graphics are better?????
looks much better now. seems like the fat guy who talked with hayter was the real brain behind mgs. wonder if konami brought back fukushima as well.
new good old bad sorry boomers but you lost
pajeets, shills, are always apologists
one of their meme points it's to always shit-talk the original
god forbid people talk about games than fighting a culture war in every single fricking thread right xister?
just consume the current product that's better than it's older version, sir
just consume the old product and become jaded sir
>People so stuck into the old good new bad that they're now defending the piss filter
Lmao.
This would not be happening if they had used the camera that Kojima & Hideo invented together.
>2000s/2010s
>frick brown 'n' bloom, frick piss filters
>2020s
>frick realistic lighting, frick blue filters
Can you guys make up your fricking mind?
>You lived long enough to see Ganker b***hing about the removal of piss filters.
>Ganker b***hes about piss filters since the 7th gen
>Remake removes the piss filter
>Ganker b***hes that it's gone
i dread to see the day when this shithole will complain about the lack of DEI one day
Everyone in 2004
>Wow! this game looks incredible! the art style is amazing! The color choice fits the setting and atmosphere of the game perfectly! It looks like one of the most beautiful video games ever made!
Zoomers in 2024
>REEEEEEE PISS FILTER PISS FILTER PISS FILTER! BROWN BROWN BROWN! UGLY UGLY UGLY! CHANGE IT CHANGE IT CHANGE IT! I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT I HATE IT! AAAAAAAAAAAAA
yes zoomer the piss filter is shit and literally no one praised MGS3 for its ugly visuals
MGS2 shits on 3Reddit so hard its not even funny
I just wish they would expand the locations between bosses (by adding alternate paths, enemy bases, tougher challenges, new gameplay mechanics etc.) and make it feel more like survival in the forest. the paths toward pain, fear, fury, sorrow and the end should test these aspects of snake's character with every boss as the end point in conjuring his every weakness and becoming the ultimate soldier. limited PS2 hardware could pull that off but they have the perfect opportunity now to elevate the experience into something special.
i have a hope they might do that in some of the later locations but who knows
Why does the bottom look like...slightly fake? Like its stylized. Kojima did a good job on V and it looks like real life where this looks like one of those final fantasy animated movies if that makes sense?
The reason unreal engine has no soul is because we as humans have something called [Pattern Recognition] and when you see the exact same shaders and humanoid character rigging over and over your brain associates all of those shit games together.
>Have your own game engine that's actually rather impressive for modern standards (MGSV)
>um actually nah let's just use unsoul engine and pay huge royalties instead
konami must be completely on life support at this point to make dumb decisions like this
Schizo tier ngl
The remake just has bad art in general. There is nothing realistic about this lighting. If you're a talented video game developer who is passionate about your craft in Japan, why the frick would you work at Konami?
All the talent left, the only people that remain at Konami are the career drones
it's just generic realistic shit we've seen in every unreal engine game
they fricked mgs3 into another TPS with stealth elements
Yeah looks just like Clair Obscur and Fortnite.
Stop blaming engines for art problems.
>Le zoomers this, that and the other
Rent free.
>praising the piss filter