It's mostly bugfixing but the most important change is the tag limit increasing from 2048 to 8192 so playing with mods like Extended Timeline or Terra-Indomita doesn't turn your save into a time bomb.
Pretty significant bug fixes, though. Tag fix also lets you turn off the cucked revolt-rules. Vanilla has game settings to lower the frequency of revolts, which is necessary because revolts create new tags. Now you can turn that off without hitting tag limit too soon. The levy comp fix was pretty good, too.
This shitshow is going to end with some Paradox devs freak out because they don´t want to make what they consumers really wanted, and be all know it...
for fricks sake don't touch the fricking game
its easily my favorite gs game don't fricking touch it
I don't care that its low population, paracucks like shit like victoria 3 and 50 shallow dlcs with gommicks for eu4
there are 2 (arguebly 3) better paradox GS games
ck2
vic2
stellaris if you consider it a gs
if you were thinking of any other game, your taste objectively isn't better
Given your emotional comment this bug fix really stimulated the the parts of your brain associated with fear and aggression. I recommend looking into cognitive behavioral therapy, anyone can do it on their own. Also don't forget that paradox usually let's you revert to previous versions.
>its easily my favorite gs game don't fricking touch it
you can play as pyrrhus and because of the last patch/dlc before they dropped the game you cant even have him lead your armies. its fricking moronic. it was at least playable before that last cluster frick of an update
they did a big patch before dropping it meant to fix everything but it just fricked everything up with weird choices like not letting leaders actually lead their armies anymore
i think its at least part of the reason they dropped support. its so fricked that the first things they would need to do to start "fixing" it is undo shit they spent time implementing to fix it in the first place and no one likes to backtrack so they just left it as is
Your ruler still leads armies, you just lead your capital region's levies.
>romania being romance >split alsace and romance switzerland from this
lol larp
romania is a country with slavic culture. the french are hardly romance. walloonia absorbed, switzerland are their own thing and south tirol and alsace not part of either switzerland. luxemburg is more french than it is German although they speak a Germanic language.
YASSSS QUEENZ WE WON >Gradual slide from republics into tyranny as your empire becomes too powerful. >Less 'in flagrante delicto' events and more meaningful senate debates in the early game. >New government types for barbarians. >Horse Lords BC: Scythian Steppe DLC >New plundering and settling mechanics for Germanic nomads.
WE. ARE. ROOOWOMENS!
One of the best map painter ever made. >Building city and road >Slowy civilizing the land >Convert pop >All of that through action like building, decreting policy. >No mana button or at least very few.
Imperator is fun if you objectif is to roleplay stuff like massilia greek creating a greeco-gallic civilization. Trade is shit also.
>>No mana button or at least very few.
Political influence is still mana.
It sucks that despite having 100000000000 gold, I can't build new cities because it costs 100 political influence, and with my shit king, it takes five years to save up political influence to be able to build a city.
I get that political influence is supposed to represent administrative limits, but it just constrained. Realistically, with enough money you can make anything.
EU3 did this better with agents, you had architects, and each building project needed an architect to supervise, so you were usually limited 2 on-going building projects, as contrast to doing nothing and waiting for mana to tick up.
>US Pacific Event Paras
Skills are the same as Jap Paras
MG Is BAR 1918
AT Is M1 Bazooka
Sniper is M1C Garand
The M1A1 Carbine has a slightly off recoil impulse. It's 2 up, 1 down.
frick I wish. seeing paradox double down on the abortion that was vic3 while imperator is quietly taken out back and shot really sucks.
imperator was doomed from the start when they shit the bed with the launch by forcing shitty mana into it even after the backlash. the team that took over did a good job unfricking it and maybe if they got around to revamping the economy (by far the weakest part of the game) it might've been able to recover. we'll never know now though.
What kind of morons does Paradox have to be to think that releasing unfinished games and then abandoning them because they're ten years of milking CK2 and EU4 for DLC has finally backfired and now they're scared of negative reviews?
Looking for some advices, I think this thread is good as any other.
Any suggestion for techs etc. when you start a game? Especially as a tribal near Rome.
In my last game I managed to survive as Siculs and broke everybody ass getting a gigantic fleet, so I've invested quite a lot in the navy tech tree, but I feel like it was the suboptimal choice. Also I'm a moron so I unlocked foundries in the last 50 years of game, I guess it wasn't really efficient although I managed to get to lv. 22 in all techs and was 100 years ahead tech-wise.
It depends on who you're playing and what you're going for. For instance, If you're playing a diadochi and trying to reunite Aexander's empire in 1-2 generations, I'd recommend putting all 8 starting tech points into religion to get the religious conversion law to start hellenizing everything (which is important for slowing and then reventing rebellions which is inevitable if you Alexander's Legacy war everyone at the start). If you're Syracuse I'd probably suggest putting quite a few points into military first for discipline buffs. Also keep in mind that points are universal so any time you put a lot of points into 1 tree you can always stop and focus on another
Overall though, I'd say there's 2 mandatory techs in the game, with everything else being either highly recommended or optional, and depends on your playstyle and the run itsel. The 2 techs are:
Cohorts - legions in any region is incredibly powerful and massively increases force projection
Urban planning - especially great if you're a large nation, and gives you so much more flexibility. You can make a 5-port city much more easily, put a temple and theater in every city, 2 extra forts for a border town, etc.
Special mention to Formulaic Worship - free religious conversion, which is great as long as you're anywhere with multiple religions around and is especially great if you're a diadochi or are conquering a lot of places. If you're a monarchy it's even better since you can also get proscribed canon too which lets you choose either more free conversion or free assimilation.
on_rebellion_in_country = { #root scope parent country
effect = {
if = {
limit = {
is_ai = yes #There are numerous tools to offset rebellions, all of which are situational - the AI will never be able to manage these with the same ability as a human player, so we reduce the frequency of revolts to balance.
}
every_country_state = {
capital_scope = {
add_state_loyalty = 30
}
}
}
}
}
That means every time AI encounters a rebellion, all their provinces actually gain loyalty... One of the few things I enjoyed before V2 was how AI blobs could collapse internally unlike in other PDX games, I guess Arrheon saw it as an issue.
AI is not the player and should not be treated the same. A way to deal with rebels in V2 is simple - pass reforms and don't get war exhaustion. Way to deal with revolts in Imperator is much more multi-layered and this allows AI to keep pace with the player, rather then mechanics being gutted so AI can handle then.
Looks like shitty devs are itt. AI should be capable of playing the game
Does any other paradox game has cheats for AI? Difficultly slider buffs them but that is all afaik. And by cheat I don't mean people complaining "omg AI cheating" while they just don't understand the mechanics
You can go straight into the game files and remove that. That was necessary with the old tag limit, otherwise the game would hit tag limit before the end of game and crash.
>That was necessary with the old tag limit,
That was is a lie. I completed several games before 2.0 (when this code was added) and suffered no crashes.
I love Imperator. Just minding my own business, conquering the Mediterranean, building road networks, reducing Hebrews to slavery, the usual. The only part that sucks is managing the families and characters in the mid to late game. Juggling like 50 different governors is annoying as frick. I wouldn’t mind if the characters were completely removed from the game.
Whenever I start a new game I always
tag carthage and annex rome
tag sparta and annex athens
tag kush and annex egypt
tag samaria and annex judea
tag albania and annex armenia
just correcting the record
>its easily my favorite gs game don't fricking touch it
you can play as pyrrhus and because of the last patch/dlc before they dropped the game you cant even have him lead your armies. its fricking moronic. it was at least playable before that last cluster frick of an update
they did a big patch before dropping it meant to fix everything but it just fricked everything up with weird choices like not letting leaders actually lead their armies anymore
i think its at least part of the reason they dropped support. its so fricked that the first things they would need to do to start "fixing" it is undo shit they spent time implementing to fix it in the first place and no one likes to backtrack so they just left it as is
I also enjoyed release version of imperator. I like the final version of it too and it’s probably overall better, but they definitely went back and forth trying some dumb ideas to “fix” things.
I still think all the hate imperator got at release was due to indirect anger at paradox over other games DLC policies. Which is fair. I loved EU4 but they ran that shit into the ground and I quit many years ago.
>last remaining 10 players probably only plays for the mods >paradox releases an update and mods break >modders don't care since game is dead
Nice one paradox
Invictus just felt like an aggregate mod. It adds lots of mission trees but those are a waste of money when it involved buildings you never see a return on.
I got it on GOG 🙂 was fricking annoying though, in the first patch they broke some shit that made it almost unplayable and they only released the hotfix on steam, not GOG. I haven’t been playing recently though, I pick it up every once in a while.
>according to Steam charts there are still 500 people playing
I literally just got it on sale and what the frick it's actually way better than Victoria 3.
How does this only have 500 people playing while Victoria 3 has 4820? Do people just not give a frick about the time period?
It had 30,000 players on launch, but it was considered bad for various reasons. There was a consensus it is just EU4 mod... Though PDX spend two years reworking half the mechanics, it didn't improve the player numbers.
Naturally, when they announced the end of development all build-good-will was lost...
It's pretty unfair, CK3 was barebones on launch and still sold 2 million copies... Johan was the wrong man for the job.
>How does this only have 500 people playing while Victoria 3 has 4820? Do people just not give a frick about the time period?
Victoria has the brand recognition from the previous game being memed as some super complex big brained strategy game among nuparadoxgays who've never actually played it, or only played it briefly and were intimidated by it.
Imperator is the spiritual sequel to a old game no one's heard of that was an unsuccessful spin off of a game that was superseded by an (inferior) sequel before most current paradox players started playing paradox games. Though now that I think about it didn't Wiz do a big mod for it? I wonder why he got V3 instead of that.
Victoria 3 is for larping Bolsheviks who never read Solzhenitsyns “200 years together”.
I still think all the hate Imperator got was everyone being mad at Paradox for their DLC policies of other games (justified anger imo) and Imperator got the blame. It was still fun at launch.
>I still think all the hate Imperator got was everyone being mad at Paradox for their DLC policies of other games (justified anger imo) and Imperator got the blame. It was still fun at launch.
Imperator was beautiful on launch, but it was Clausewitz Engine: The Game. Raise army, march it across onto a new tile and accept surrender at the end of the war. Click mana to change the population to your ethnic group, rinse and repeat. The gameplay loop was ridiculously simple and uninteresting.
>I wonder why he got V3 instead of that.
Because Johan wanted it. Half the mechanics of Imperator were Johan's ideas for EU4 (including the pop system) that weren't implement. I suppose the idea was to make it EU4.5, which explains why it's more like EU4 than CK2. PDX has a history of doing these kinda beta-tests and then abandoning them (e.g. Sengoku was beta for CK2), EU5 is going to be like Imperator, thought its bad reception it likely got delayed.
Yeah, imperator totally ruined eu4 for me. I mean, all the DLC and bloat ruined it for me, but I always rolled back to 1.19 and had fun. I just miss imperators dynamic pops and city and road building and how beautiful and detailed the map is. Can’t deal with EU4s janky development system.
>according to Steam charts there are still 500 people playing
I literally just got it on sale and what the frick it's actually way better than Victoria 3.
How does this only have 500 people playing while Victoria 3 has 4820? Do people just not give a frick about the time period?
>How does this only have 500 people playing while Victoria 3 has 4820? Do people just not give a frick about the time period?
Victoria has the brand recognition from the previous game being memed as some super complex big brained strategy game among nuparadoxgays who've never actually played it, or only played it briefly and were intimidated by it.
Imperator is the spiritual sequel to a old game no one's heard of that was an unsuccessful spin off of a game that was superseded by an (inferior) sequel before most current paradox players started playing paradox games. Though now that I think about it didn't Wiz do a big mod for it? I wonder why he got V3 instead of that.
501 if you count me. Most of us who played EU: Rome are old fashioned, so when we play Imperator we play in offline mode and don't show up in the stats.
>territories are grouped into areas >each territory contributes food to area's food storage >when an army enters the area, they start consuming the food >when the food runs out the pops of the area begin to starve and the army resorts to eating own supplies
It has actually environmental effect and the food just doesn't come out of nowhere.
Contrast CK3 and EU4's supply limit where you will take attrition if army's size is below province's supply limit.
wrong, we should have not abstract supply lines but automated donkey units: they should spawn in safe provinces and automatically move back and forth between armies and cities to create another dimension to warfare in form of raiding supply and capturing donkeys
You've just described abstract supply lines but implemented in the most roundabout way possible. If you're not one already, don't ever become a modder.
you could cycle them in and out, but pretty much will never need to realistically
wrong, we should have not abstract supply lines but automated donkey units: they should spawn in safe provinces and automatically move back and forth between armies and cities to create another dimension to warfare in form of raiding supply and capturing donkeys
as in on the map? this wont work, in laye game I usually have 7-8 levies running around alongside my main army
I like the Seleukids because you can fight both the Mauryans and other diadochi at the same time, plus sometime 50ish years after the game starts you have to start fghting the Parthians who assassinate your rulers and gives big penalties for 10 years. All that, while also being able to reform Alexander's empire.
I love the color scheme, it's pure SOVL. All modern games go for the epic dark semitransparent readable theme, and while functional, it's all the same and completely soulles. What we got for Imperator at least has some unique charm to it, it's brave wnough to try to evoke some tones using it's UI. We'll never again get a UI as based as the old RTW UI was.
Why did Arrheon make ports constructible?
Completely misses the point of Johan's design of giving specific territories value by limiting territories where you can construct fleets.
Not really, there's only a few minor mechanics actually paywalled behind dlc (ruler deification, legion distinctions and great wonder creator), and after that it's mainly flavor. Granted, some of the mission trees are actually pretty fun, such as the Seleukid mission tree where you can pay for Greek migrants to settle in Syria, or the Argead reunification mission where you can permanently buff Alexandria on Egypt by collecting Alexander's panoply and putting it in the Alexander temple there.
Doesn't look like it. Vic 2 also received one of those two or three years ago. Anyway, link?
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/anniversary-maintenance-patch-2-0-4-open-beta.1579605/
It's mostly bugfixing but the most important change is the tag limit increasing from 2048 to 8192 so playing with mods like Extended Timeline or Terra-Indomita doesn't turn your save into a time bomb.
Pretty significant bug fixes, though. Tag fix also lets you turn off the cucked revolt-rules. Vanilla has game settings to lower the frequency of revolts, which is necessary because revolts create new tags. Now you can turn that off without hitting tag limit too soon. The levy comp fix was pretty good, too.
Who's this dev? Is he new? If that's the case then it's probably some exercise to hone his skills
He won.
Apologize.
This shitshow is going to end with some Paradox devs freak out because they don´t want to make what they consumers really wanted, and be all know it...
I KNEEL
Say his name.
Maintenance patch bros we did it we are back!!!!
we're so back bros i can't wait to pay paradox more money
They said the game is still dead, that's a good thing
for fricks sake don't touch the fricking game
its easily my favorite gs game don't fricking touch it
I don't care that its low population, paracucks like shit like victoria 3 and 50 shallow dlcs with gommicks for eu4
>its easily my favorite gs game
Get better taste
there are 2 (arguebly 3) better paradox GS games
ck2
vic2
stellaris if you consider it a gs
if you were thinking of any other game, your taste objectively isn't better
eu3 ck2 and vic2 are the only games they made that are good
how quickly the youth forget.
Given your emotional comment this bug fix really stimulated the the parts of your brain associated with fear and aggression. I recommend looking into cognitive behavioral therapy, anyone can do it on their own. Also don't forget that paradox usually let's you revert to previous versions.
>its easily my favorite gs game don't fricking touch it
you can play as pyrrhus and because of the last patch/dlc before they dropped the game you cant even have him lead your armies. its fricking moronic. it was at least playable before that last cluster frick of an update
Your ruler still leads armies, you just lead your capital region's levies.
>romania being romance
>split alsace and romance switzerland from this
lol larp
romania is a country with slavic culture. the french are hardly romance. walloonia absorbed, switzerland are their own thing and south tirol and alsace not part of either switzerland. luxemburg is more french than it is German although they speak a Germanic language.
Brother in Christ it explicitly says they’re not back. It’s just a pet project bug fix.
good enough for me tbh, i'm glad they're not padding it with gimmicks like eu4
The project might wake back up if enough people pick the game back up, especially if V3 ends up not working out
vic 3 cant even hit 5 digits even with the patch lol
The patch isn't even out yet, it might ending up setting your computer on fire for all we know.
Last paradox game with decent combat system getting update. Nature is healing...
>Last paradox game with decent combat system getting update
... they are giving HoI2 an update?
AoD is getting one, so yes kinda.
AoD is also the best combat system adaption of HoI 2.
This is still incredible to me. I thought I was the only one who played AoD.
anniversay maintenance patch bros...
we won.........
>Imperator will outlive V3
this is the best timeline
>Game gets a legacy patch, mere 3 years after premire
>WE'RE BACK
Lmao
o
l
I'm going to buy the game.
YASSSS QUEENZ WE WON
>Gradual slide from republics into tyranny as your empire becomes too powerful.
>Less 'in flagrante delicto' events and more meaningful senate debates in the early game.
>New government types for barbarians.
>Horse Lords BC: Scythian Steppe DLC
>New plundering and settling mechanics for Germanic nomads.
WE. ARE. ROOOWOMENS!
>R-Republic good!
>C-Central authority b-b-bad!
Ffs
Victoria3 proven imperator to be a better game
the game looks kind of interesting but I dont give a frick about rome at all, only boring virgins care about that shit.
for me its the heptarchy until the spanish american war.
You are NOT like the other girls. Bare my children.
You're right about rome
One of the best map painter ever made.
>Building city and road
>Slowy civilizing the land
>Convert pop
>All of that through action like building, decreting policy.
>No mana button or at least very few.
Imperator is fun if you objectif is to roleplay stuff like massilia greek creating a greeco-gallic civilization. Trade is shit also.
>no mana button
That's really funny
They removed most of them after people complained
They actually listened to the people for once and removed the mana (by replacing it with many smaller mana's but it's still much better)
If they fixed the trade system, we'd have a great game on our hands. I wished they did one more DLC just to fix that.
Playing as Greek city states is absolutely based though
city and road
So satisfying.
>>No mana button or at least very few.
Political influence is still mana.
It sucks that despite having 100000000000 gold, I can't build new cities because it costs 100 political influence, and with my shit king, it takes five years to save up political influence to be able to build a city.
I get that political influence is supposed to represent administrative limits, but it just constrained. Realistically, with enough money you can make anything.
EU3 did this better with agents, you had architects, and each building project needed an architect to supervise, so you were usually limited 2 on-going building projects, as contrast to doing nothing and waiting for mana to tick up.
>US Pacific Event Paras
Skills are the same as Jap Paras
MG Is BAR 1918
AT Is M1 Bazooka
Sniper is M1C Garand
The M1A1 Carbine has a slightly off recoil impulse. It's 2 up, 1 down.
I know you're posting in wrong thread but what game is that?
Enlisted
vicky lost
ck lost
imperator won
frick I wish. seeing paradox double down on the abortion that was vic3 while imperator is quietly taken out back and shot really sucks.
imperator was doomed from the start when they shit the bed with the launch by forcing shitty mana into it even after the backlash. the team that took over did a good job unfricking it and maybe if they got around to revamping the economy (by far the weakest part of the game) it might've been able to recover. we'll never know now though.
What kind of morons does Paradox have to be to think that releasing unfinished games and then abandoning them because they're ten years of milking CK2 and EU4 for DLC has finally backfired and now they're scared of negative reviews?
Paracucks need to WAKE UP!
Is there a good mod for this game?
Sol invictus
Invictus
Better UI 2.0
I like the Bronze Age mod
Looking for some advices, I think this thread is good as any other.
Any suggestion for techs etc. when you start a game? Especially as a tribal near Rome.
In my last game I managed to survive as Siculs and broke everybody ass getting a gigantic fleet, so I've invested quite a lot in the navy tech tree, but I feel like it was the suboptimal choice. Also I'm a moron so I unlocked foundries in the last 50 years of game, I guess it wasn't really efficient although I managed to get to lv. 22 in all techs and was 100 years ahead tech-wise.
It depends on who you're playing and what you're going for. For instance, If you're playing a diadochi and trying to reunite Aexander's empire in 1-2 generations, I'd recommend putting all 8 starting tech points into religion to get the religious conversion law to start hellenizing everything (which is important for slowing and then reventing rebellions which is inevitable if you Alexander's Legacy war everyone at the start). If you're Syracuse I'd probably suggest putting quite a few points into military first for discipline buffs. Also keep in mind that points are universal so any time you put a lot of points into 1 tree you can always stop and focus on another
Overall though, I'd say there's 2 mandatory techs in the game, with everything else being either highly recommended or optional, and depends on your playstyle and the run itsel. The 2 techs are:
Cohorts - legions in any region is incredibly powerful and massively increases force projection
Urban planning - especially great if you're a large nation, and gives you so much more flexibility. You can make a 5-port city much more easily, put a temple and theater in every city, 2 extra forts for a border town, etc.
Special mention to Formulaic Worship - free religious conversion, which is great as long as you're anywhere with multiple religions around and is especially great if you're a diadochi or are conquering a lot of places. If you're a monarchy it's even better since you can also get proscribed canon too which lets you choose either more free conversion or free assimilation.
Does anyone else get annoyed when the AI destroys their own holy sites?
kek
Imagine having an anniversary celebration themed panic patch lol.
They still haven't fixed Arrheon's awful shit:
on_rebellion_in_country = { #root scope parent country
effect = {
if = {
limit = {
is_ai = yes #There are numerous tools to offset rebellions, all of which are situational - the AI will never be able to manage these with the same ability as a human player, so we reduce the frequency of revolts to balance.
}
every_country_state = {
capital_scope = {
add_state_loyalty = 30
}
}
}
}
}
That means every time AI encounters a rebellion, all their provinces actually gain loyalty... One of the few things I enjoyed before V2 was how AI blobs could collapse internally unlike in other PDX games, I guess Arrheon saw it as an issue.
AI is not the player and should not be treated the same. A way to deal with rebels in V2 is simple - pass reforms and don't get war exhaustion. Way to deal with revolts in Imperator is much more multi-layered and this allows AI to keep pace with the player, rather then mechanics being gutted so AI can handle then.
Looks like shitty devs are itt. AI should be capable of playing the game
Does any other paradox game has cheats for AI? Difficultly slider buffs them but that is all afaik. And by cheat I don't mean people complaining "omg AI cheating" while they just don't understand the mechanics
You can go straight into the game files and remove that. That was necessary with the old tag limit, otherwise the game would hit tag limit before the end of game and crash.
>That was necessary with the old tag limit,
That was is a lie. I completed several games before 2.0 (when this code was added) and suffered no crashes.
The AI and you blob really fast.
imperator is the blobber's choice of game imo
I love Imperator. Just minding my own business, conquering the Mediterranean, building road networks, reducing Hebrews to slavery, the usual. The only part that sucks is managing the families and characters in the mid to late game. Juggling like 50 different governors is annoying as frick. I wouldn’t mind if the characters were completely removed from the game.
sounds like a Roman problem
Whenever I start a new game I always
tag carthage and annex rome
tag sparta and annex athens
tag kush and annex egypt
tag samaria and annex judea
tag albania and annex armenia
just correcting the record
>tag albania and annex armenia
?
Albania is located in modern Azerbaijan.
>play as barbarians and annex civilized people
browncel detected
So I played it fully patched with some mods and it is terrible. The first release version was plenty fun, how could they ruin it so completely?
see
they did a big patch before dropping it meant to fix everything but it just fricked everything up with weird choices like not letting leaders actually lead their armies anymore
i think its at least part of the reason they dropped support. its so fricked that the first things they would need to do to start "fixing" it is undo shit they spent time implementing to fix it in the first place and no one likes to backtrack so they just left it as is
I also enjoyed release version of imperator. I like the final version of it too and it’s probably overall better, but they definitely went back and forth trying some dumb ideas to “fix” things.
I still think all the hate imperator got at release was due to indirect anger at paradox over other games DLC policies. Which is fair. I loved EU4 but they ran that shit into the ground and I quit many years ago.
I just want a game set in late antiquity + early middle ages so I can make a smooth transition from I:R all the way to HoI4.
>last remaining 10 players probably only plays for the mods
>paradox releases an update and mods break
>modders don't care since game is dead
Nice one paradox
>mods break
name one
If you consider "this mod is for older version" warning a break then all of them
The only mods you need are Invictus and its submods and those will get updated.
Invictus just felt like an aggregate mod. It adds lots of mission trees but those are a waste of money when it involved buildings you never see a return on.
according to Steam charts there are still 500 people playing
I got it on GOG 🙂 was fricking annoying though, in the first patch they broke some shit that made it almost unplayable and they only released the hotfix on steam, not GOG. I haven’t been playing recently though, I pick it up every once in a while.
>according to Steam charts there are still 500 people playing
I literally just got it on sale and what the frick it's actually way better than Victoria 3.
How does this only have 500 people playing while Victoria 3 has 4820? Do people just not give a frick about the time period?
No Man's Sky
It had 30,000 players on launch, but it was considered bad for various reasons. There was a consensus it is just EU4 mod... Though PDX spend two years reworking half the mechanics, it didn't improve the player numbers.
Naturally, when they announced the end of development all build-good-will was lost...
It's pretty unfair, CK3 was barebones on launch and still sold 2 million copies... Johan was the wrong man for the job.
>How does this only have 500 people playing while Victoria 3 has 4820? Do people just not give a frick about the time period?
Victoria has the brand recognition from the previous game being memed as some super complex big brained strategy game among nuparadoxgays who've never actually played it, or only played it briefly and were intimidated by it.
Imperator is the spiritual sequel to a old game no one's heard of that was an unsuccessful spin off of a game that was superseded by an (inferior) sequel before most current paradox players started playing paradox games. Though now that I think about it didn't Wiz do a big mod for it? I wonder why he got V3 instead of that.
Yea Wiz got his start modding EU:Rome.
Victoria 3 is for larping Bolsheviks who never read Solzhenitsyns “200 years together”.
I still think all the hate Imperator got was everyone being mad at Paradox for their DLC policies of other games (justified anger imo) and Imperator got the blame. It was still fun at launch.
>I still think all the hate Imperator got was everyone being mad at Paradox for their DLC policies of other games (justified anger imo) and Imperator got the blame. It was still fun at launch.
Imperator was beautiful on launch, but it was Clausewitz Engine: The Game. Raise army, march it across onto a new tile and accept surrender at the end of the war. Click mana to change the population to your ethnic group, rinse and repeat. The gameplay loop was ridiculously simple and uninteresting.
Was ? It's different now ?
>I wonder why he got V3 instead of that.
Because Johan wanted it. Half the mechanics of Imperator were Johan's ideas for EU4 (including the pop system) that weren't implement. I suppose the idea was to make it EU4.5, which explains why it's more like EU4 than CK2. PDX has a history of doing these kinda beta-tests and then abandoning them (e.g. Sengoku was beta for CK2), EU5 is going to be like Imperator, thought its bad reception it likely got delayed.
Yeah, imperator totally ruined eu4 for me. I mean, all the DLC and bloat ruined it for me, but I always rolled back to 1.19 and had fun. I just miss imperators dynamic pops and city and road building and how beautiful and detailed the map is. Can’t deal with EU4s janky development system.
Vic3 is getting there. There is a big decline player base
501 if you count me. Most of us who played EU: Rome are old fashioned, so when we play Imperator we play in offline mode and don't show up in the stats.
Does Imperator have the best supply system?
>territories are grouped into areas
>each territory contributes food to area's food storage
>when an army enters the area, they start consuming the food
>when the food runs out the pops of the area begin to starve and the army resorts to eating own supplies
It has actually environmental effect and the food just doesn't come out of nowhere.
Contrast CK3 and EU4's supply limit where you will take attrition if army's size is below province's supply limit.
it's pretty good but you should have actual supply lines rather than having donkey units
wrong, we should have not abstract supply lines but automated donkey units: they should spawn in safe provinces and automatically move back and forth between armies and cities to create another dimension to warfare in form of raiding supply and capturing donkeys
You've just described abstract supply lines but implemented in the most roundabout way possible. If you're not one already, don't ever become a modder.
you could cycle them in and out, but pretty much will never need to realistically
as in on the map? this wont work, in laye game I usually have 7-8 levies running around alongside my main army
What are some interesting non-barbarian countires to palay as?
Bosporian kingdom comes to mind.
I like the Seleukids because you can fight both the Mauryans and other diadochi at the same time, plus sometime 50ish years after the game starts you have to start fghting the Parthians who assassinate your rulers and gives big penalties for 10 years. All that, while also being able to reform Alexander's empire.
this game is the worst paradox game by the UI alone. Whoever picked bright & white background colors for the ui should be shot in face
I love the color scheme, it's pure SOVL. All modern games go for the epic dark semitransparent readable theme, and while functional, it's all the same and completely soulles. What we got for Imperator at least has some unique charm to it, it's brave wnough to try to evoke some tones using it's UI. We'll never again get a UI as based as the old RTW UI was.
>t.graphics Black person unironically complaining about the colour of the UI
it gets a sore to look at after a few hours
white background is the best for reading, turn on the light and stop playing games in dark room
Why did Arrheon make ports constructible?
Completely misses the point of Johan's design of giving specific territories value by limiting territories where you can construct fleets.
AHH I'M GONNA
ROOOOOOOOOOOME
Are any of the dlcs important at all?
Not really, there's only a few minor mechanics actually paywalled behind dlc (ruler deification, legion distinctions and great wonder creator), and after that it's mainly flavor. Granted, some of the mission trees are actually pretty fun, such as the Seleukid mission tree where you can pay for Greek migrants to settle in Syria, or the Argead reunification mission where you can permanently buff Alexandria on Egypt by collecting Alexander's panoply and putting it in the Alexander temple there.
so where do i get imperator mods pirated