>playing the game offline is revolutionary
This is who the industry caters to now.
that's a lot of fake internet points for pointing out super mundane shit
It's absolutely an abnormality in today's gaming landscape for a multiplayer game of this scale to not have always online DRM, yes, and devs should be praised for not being lazy / greedy pieces of shit, there is nothing wrong with it.
You'd almost think that Baldur's Gate 3 is responsible the the creation of the universe at this point by how much gaymerz praise it for the most mundane fricking things
it's a common trend in modern games that even the single player modes require an online connection to ping to servers as a form of DRM, a lot plain won't work in offline mode
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Anonymous
I play modern games on my Steam Deck once in a while. Those work perfectly fine in offline mode. I repeat, what garbage are you playing?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I play modern games on my Steam Deck once in a while
oh so you don';t actually play games on real systems, ok. i get it now
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh so you don't have any actual experience playing games offline and all you homosexuals can do is point to Diablo like it's the norm. Gaymer outrage is such a fricking pathetic joke
11 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but you can literally look up a liat of games that do this.
Diablo
Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League will have it
There was a Hitman game that didn't let you save if you weren't online
Redfall at release
Payday 3 will have it
Just to name a few
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Redfall
Infamously garbage game, who cares >Payday 3
It's a multi-player game, what do you expect?
The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of single-player games released this year can be played offline. You're blowing a perceived issue way out of proportion.
11 months ago
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>Garbage game
So? That isn't the point
>Payday
You can play it by yourself. Payday 2 didn't have always-online. It's like Suicide Squad. You can play it by yourself and you still need online for it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
To add to this, a ton of Activision games on PC needed to be online because of Battle.net too, even if you were just playing single player modes. Gran Tursimo 7 gimps the game if you aren't online.
11 months ago
Anonymous
so you live under a goddamned rock and haven't even heard of games being always online and a problem because you playing nothing from the current gen or indie trash
11 months ago
Anonymous
You could play Elden Ring offline. You don't have to be online at all to play ToTK.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>two examples out of the very many others >one example is gimped without it >second example is a Nintendo game which is known for not doing online anything since it's terrible with every attempt
Because the millennial generation of coders stole these basic features from them, dummy. Next you'll wonder why people think a full game sold at a flat price is a marvel to behold.
god idk maybe it's my generation's servitude to Shekelberg Goldenstein and his Blackrock ESG investment company to strip all single player, offline, DRM-less, and backward compatibility features from games so we can sell endless chunks of gameplay to them like ancient arcade machines or something
because of millennials.
millennials are to blame for everything people complain about in video games.
paid online, subscriptions, dlcs, microtransactions, always online, fomo garbage
This is the answer, combined with a non-broken and pretty neat act 1. Give it a week or two before people start reaching Acts 2 and 3, and realizing how it's nothing close to what was promised.
Yes but characters(outside of obvious parodies) from japanese fujoshit media usually do not wear funny flags and have personalities beyond just being gay/lesbian/whatever and that makes americans very mad.
>Horniness is okay when it's queer-friendly
W-what? What even is queer friendly horniness? Do they mean you can have gay relations? Does that mean straight horniness and sex is not a good thing anymore? So many questions.
>gays can't accept they are hypocrites
Nothing bad happens when you admit you are a hypocrite. It's cathartic if anything a good thing. Frickers never learn.
I can't even hate shit like that webm because jap games are just as sexually depraved.
I hate the hypocrites who hate and censor jap games, while pushing BG3 sex as liberating.
the sort of depravity you see in jap games (including historicaly) isnt marketed and forced into the public eye on the same level as BG3 (and a slightly lesser extent cyber punk was though seemingly isnt as big)
thats the main difference
No major bugs on release, no micro or should I say MARCO transaction. No battle shit pass. No force online mode.
Everything what is shit about almost most of AAA games nowdays is no present there.
Oh and game is pretty good, not amazing but good.
Nothing really. And I've played, got bored at Act 3 and dropped it. This is easily one of the most overrated games in vidya history. I guess it's great for waifugays, but honestly I'd rather just play an actual tabletop.
it is a major game that got released with no microtransactions and only some minor bugs. something which was the norm up until 2010. just zoomies overhyping it i guess.
It has SEX and NUDITY but instead of the usual porn game nudity the girls are UGLY
This makes americans lose their minds because their culture focuses on ugliness
>OMG guys, BG3 is showing developers how it's done! Look at how mad they are about it! Good games never existed before BG3.
Meanwhile, thr so-called "developers" seething about BG3 are just some literally who fricktards on Twitter
How did this even become a conversation? In what universe would AAA game devs feel threatened by BG3? It's a turn-based RPG, no one is playing BG3 and thinking MW3 or Fortnite or whatever should be more like this, it's apples and oranges. And are devs really worried about being held to "higher" standards? Literally no one is saying all games have to be as complex as BG3, just put out your game and the customer decides whether it's fun or not. This whole thing just seems really bizarre, it doesn't even make sense. The only ones who should feel even remotely threatened are other devs of Western turn-based RPGs, which are pretty niche. And they're probably feeling more inspired than anything.
>In what universe would AAA game devs feel threatened by BG3?
BG3 may not be very popular in the grand scheme of things (lets' be honest, it's not, 700K players is nothing compared to yearly AAA launch at all) but it is very dense, has lots of content, most of it free. It's insane for developers to think abou tgiving players this much content and not drip-feeding it as a GAAS over the period of several hundred expansion packs and microtransactions
That's what they're really afraid of: the masses looking at this game, looking at the options it gives people, all for free, and demanding more
But it is free
You pay $60, the entry price for any video game, and you get all of that content, no questions asked.
name the COD or FIFA game that does that.
It still feels like manufactured outrage, I can't imagine anyone actually thinks "feature/content-packed game will make players resent us". That's not how gamers or even average consumers think.
Something comes along and it will either interest them or not, that's it. Not everyone wants a dense game all the time, sometimes you just want to jump into something for 20 minutes and frick off. Sometimes you want a full PvE storymode experience, other times you want competitive PvP.
This is such a fricking nothingburger and all sides of the 'debate' seem completely batshit for missing the point: Fun game good, no-fun game bad. That's it. Everything else is irrelevant.
>manufactured outrage
Every single AAA game studio simply cannot economically spend 5 years making a game, releasing it in full, without battlepass, DLC, microtransaction, offline and DRM free.
The current industry of the last 15 years would collapse if they went back to creating games like that.
>Every single AAA game studio simply cannot economically spend 5 years making a game, releasing it in full, without battlepass, DLC, microtransaction, offline and DRM free.
they can.
they just wont because of fiduciary duty, they are required by the board of investors to do only the most profitable shit or the will go to jail.
>It still feels like manufactured outrage
the headlines about "multiple devs are freaking about this game" is being pushed by places like IGN for cheap clicks. it was 10 or so tweets
>and demanding more
This is what your getting wrong, people are moronic and will be fine falling back to whatever major companies tell them to buy. They dont remember the bad and sure as thit they will nto remember the good either, they will keep buying shit and you cannot stop them by pointing out to better examples.
Nothing will change.
>BG3 may not be very popular in the grand scheme of things (lets' be honest, it's not, 700K players is nothing compared to yearly AAA launch at all)
lmao the hoops you dipshits jump through to try to say that BG3 isn't a massive success will never not be hilarious.
>free
you still need to buy the game dumbass
Also AAA devs don't give a shit since microtransactions make them a frickload more money than a single big release. Elden Ring didn't change anything for example.
Ofc it isn't, but more and more games are launching with little content and drip feeding content over years and charging for it is what he means.
We the same dev meltdowns over Elden Ring and TOTK tho. Saying that the bar was set too high.
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>>We the same dev meltdowns over Elden Ring and TOTK tho. Saying that the bar was set too high.
And nothing actually changed anything, and it won't happen this time either.
11 months ago
Anonymous
True. People keep buying shit despite complaining about it so they have no incentive to change. It's like people that complain about budget airlines and still use them. It's just funny seeing some devs complain about it.
>Elden Ring sold 13.4 million copies worldwide by the end of March 2022, and 20 million by February 2023.
steamspy is shit anon. ER didn't sell between 20 and 50 million on steam alone
>How did this even become a conversation?
money. it's a means of drumming up conversation about a topic with fabricated opposition, a tactic used in aggressive marketing campaigns to make this seem grander than it isn't
by standards they mean not adding shitty dlc or microtransactions, not having online only, not having drm which slows the game and ruins optimization, and not scamming people with unfinished garbage.
>How did this even become a conversation?
It's not. At least not any more than children arguing about consoles. Nobody at the AAA level is threatened by Baulder's Gate 3. It's so far beyond hyperbole it might as well be called a straight up lie.
> OP asks if game is first AAAA game > Answer: "No, AAA, looks like low budget dogshit"
What are you confused about? Stop taking wizard dicks in the ass while reading replies
no it's just the bar has been lowered to such pathetic levels that a game that would've just been acceptable (albeit the graphics are beyond the example) in 2006 is absolutely groundbreaking now. it doesn't really do anything new for CRPGs, hell it feels like D:OS3 just with D&D5E systems instead of their own system. It's a good thing that other devs are panicking over it because they just rose the bar higher than it has been for a while
First AAAA marketing budget for a AA game. >Can't even break 1m >Entire country flooded >CCP lost Mandate of Heaven
It's going to report negative ROI and I will laugh endlessly about it
>act 3 >Black mermaid tells me someone's polluting the sea >muh fricking immersion >bravo larian >where the frick do i go >some exploring later i stumble on the submarine >let's fricking go >gortash: NONONO IMMA KILL THE PRISONERS >i don't give a frick gortash do it >land anyway >YOU GOT 8 TURNS TO RUN AWAY >???????????? >literally take the ladder back again >cinematic escape cutscene >bravo larian >go back >Black mermaid is mad and wants the dwarf >kill everyone save the manlet >fricking Black folk i swear >welp gortash is mad time to disable the steel watch >sneak in the foundry >blindo baggins and some other manlets are fighting >who the frick are even these people >save the manlets >"DID YOU SEE (lmao) MY DAUGHTER?" says blindo >literally fricking who >"YOU DIDN'T PROTECT HER" >the manlets attack me >bravo larian >slaughter everybody
larian are hacks and people literally eat shit and call it chocolate
No, because being a AAA or AA or "AAAAA" game is about budget, not scope or quality of game. BG3 was expensive to make, but not groundbreaking recordshattering expensive like it would have to be to be considered AAAA.
FF7 is commonly known as the first AAA game. GTA6 having a rumored budget of like 750 million would probably make it the first true AAAA game, but that remains to be seen.
It's crazy how people eat up goyslop just because the marketing hid the egregious parts or tried to paint it as a joke, like the bear fricking when it's just a detailed fetish.
>Baldur's Gate is an anomaly! >You can't just have a 400 person team, millions of dollars, and year of development time to make a good game!
Isn't that describing 99% of all AAA studios though? What's their excuse? In fact, they have more freedom than Larian does. Larian had to deal with Wizards of the Coast + Hasbro breathing down their necks since they're using the D&D IP.
>free beta testing for 1 year and a half >broken ui >broken camera >broken inventory system >act 3 is a total clown fiesta and breaks completely if you don't follow larian writing >people are praising how polished the game is
>act 3 is a total clown fiesta and breaks completely if you don't follow larian writing
Explain I skipped the bulk of it because the game started lagging hardcore. Not graphically the fps was fine but some internal system was struggling. Certain interactions like damage calcuations or simply starting a conversations were delayed by seconds. It was extremely painful so I killed the bhaal b***h and sided with the other guy who immediately dies.
That's because, in the case of all RPGs in the last 10 years, they've been completely broken from the get-go, and needed months/years of patching and fan fixes.
>have twenty BG threads in the catalog >have zero idea which ones are swarmed with shitposters and which are legitimate discussion
Was giving Wyll more than 3 levels in Warlock a mistake? He's Lv6 and still only has two spell slots and Misty Step is far too valuable a spell for me to use Stinking Cloud or Fireball instead. I have a feeling Warlock peaks at Lv2/3 and it's best to pivot into Sorcerer or Paladin so I can actually do stuff other than Eldritch Blast twice a turn.
Honestly I think it's much harder to frick up leveling any one pure class than it is trying to dip or multiclass, but respecs are so cheap that if you want to try something you may as well go for it. You really don't need to hardcore min-max to do well in the game, anyways.
Baldur's Gate 3 is not not impressive than the game from 23 fricking years ago
The bar has just been THAT LOW that an actually functioning game that doesn't go out of its way to piss off its customers is selling millions and making publishers panic
the game is buggy as frick, despite being in early access for years
i've had several game breaking bugs >got stuck and couldnt progress with the main story until they updated the game >got stuck again later and couldnt progress in the game or change party members until i reloaded an earlier save >lost all my gold to a bug, too lazy to reload older save since it's not like there's anything to buy anyway >tons of bugged dialogue and other shit
most of the bugs are later in the game, i assume you havent gotten past the first area
I realized there's one group of people I especially dislike - those who don't enjoy the game in question, but still want to be part of the conversation about it. Souls titles were always a textbook example, but BG3 also seems to be one for people who don't like turn-based CRPGs and still want the game to conform to their wishes. It's also the latest NEW THING they want to talk about.
Anon, have you ever considered the possibility that people actually enjoy action games and crpgs and think souls and bg3 wildly miss the mark? I agree it's stupid for them to be flooding threads, but acting like the only haters don't like games that have been distilled into normie bait and/or betray their predecessors is moronicly dishonest.
Not planning to buy this game until its on sale and I finish playing other stuff in my backlog but I do love how much this is exposing game devs for being absolute garbage and getting scared at the smallest prospect of the bar being raised back to what it was like 15 years ago
I mean I guess I kind of understand a genre that skews toward the low end of AA being threatened by a bigger budget game within it blowing up, in the past stuff like the witcher wasn't in the same category of crpg. immediately getting defensive on twitter without prompt is probably the worst PR move possible though.
What's so special about it?
sea men
magic
>being able to play a game offline is now something to celebrate
grim
It's absolutely an abnormality in today's gaming landscape for a multiplayer game of this scale to not have always online DRM, yes, and devs should be praised for not being lazy / greedy pieces of shit, there is nothing wrong with it.
>multiplayer game
It's a single player game with a co op option
>playing the game offline is revolutionary
This is who the industry caters to now.
You'd almost think that Baldur's Gate 3 is responsible the the creation of the universe at this point by how much gaymerz praise it for the most mundane fricking things
Yeah goes to show how far video games have fallen where an offline mode is a luxury.
Kinda like what people have fricking told you for years but you ignored them
What are you fricking playing that can't be played offline? This is not an issue unless you're specifically playing online multi-player games.
>he wasn't there for the diablo 3 fiasco
>SHOULDN'T THAT BE ERROR NUMBER ONE?
>ERROR NUMBER ONE THE GAME DON'T FRICKING WORK
it's a common trend in modern games that even the single player modes require an online connection to ping to servers as a form of DRM, a lot plain won't work in offline mode
I play modern games on my Steam Deck once in a while. Those work perfectly fine in offline mode. I repeat, what garbage are you playing?
>I play modern games on my Steam Deck once in a while
oh so you don';t actually play games on real systems, ok. i get it now
Oh so you don't have any actual experience playing games offline and all you homosexuals can do is point to Diablo like it's the norm. Gaymer outrage is such a fricking pathetic joke
NTA but you can literally look up a liat of games that do this.
Diablo
Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League will have it
There was a Hitman game that didn't let you save if you weren't online
Redfall at release
Payday 3 will have it
Just to name a few
>Redfall
Infamously garbage game, who cares
>Payday 3
It's a multi-player game, what do you expect?
The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of single-player games released this year can be played offline. You're blowing a perceived issue way out of proportion.
>Garbage game
So? That isn't the point
>Payday
You can play it by yourself. Payday 2 didn't have always-online. It's like Suicide Squad. You can play it by yourself and you still need online for it.
To add to this, a ton of Activision games on PC needed to be online because of Battle.net too, even if you were just playing single player modes. Gran Tursimo 7 gimps the game if you aren't online.
so you live under a goddamned rock and haven't even heard of games being always online and a problem because you playing nothing from the current gen or indie trash
You could play Elden Ring offline. You don't have to be online at all to play ToTK.
>two examples out of the very many others
>one example is gimped without it
>second example is a Nintendo game which is known for not doing online anything since it's terrible with every attempt
good job you sure showed me
>Two other very successful RPGs.
You're moronic.
>zelda
>RPG
jesus christ just kys
Dude Diablo 4 JUST RELEASED like last month, take your playing stupid shit out of here.
>playing D4
>buying D4
>giving Blizzard your money for anything at all
>What are you fricking playing that can't be played offline?
red dead redemption 2.
Why are zoomers like this?
Because the millennial generation of coders stole these basic features from them, dummy. Next you'll wonder why people think a full game sold at a flat price is a marvel to behold.
god idk maybe it's my generation's servitude to Shekelberg Goldenstein and his Blackrock ESG investment company to strip all single player, offline, DRM-less, and backward compatibility features from games so we can sell endless chunks of gameplay to them like ancient arcade machines or something
now if you excuse me I need to kneel to israel
Because they have never experienced golden age of rpg first hand.
They literally don't know a time before games were always online microtransaction store hubs.
because of millennials.
millennials are to blame for everything people complain about in video games.
paid online, subscriptions, dlcs, microtransactions, always online, fomo garbage
that's a lot of fake internet points for pointing out super mundane shit
>O-OFFLINE GAMEPLAY?!
>BUT HOW WILL YOU UPDATE THE CASH SHOP?!?!?
>WHAT IF YOU WANT TO BUY SOMETHING WHILE YOU'RE INTERNET IS OUT!!!?
Marketing
This is the answer, combined with a non-broken and pretty neat act 1. Give it a week or two before people start reaching Acts 2 and 3, and realizing how it's nothing close to what was promised.
it's 100 hours long and contains several lorebooks of D&D writing and campaign creation. IIRC It also took over five years to make
from studios who shit out fifa and COD every year, that's unreasonable to expect.
>queer-friendly horniness
I wanna punch these people in the face. I wonder if they're aware that yaoi and yuri exists.
Yes but characters(outside of obvious parodies) from japanese fujoshit media usually do not wear funny flags and have personalities beyond just being gay/lesbian/whatever and that makes americans very mad.
>horniness is only okay when it's my kind of horniness
>Horniness is okay when it's queer-friendly
W-what? What even is queer friendly horniness? Do they mean you can have gay relations? Does that mean straight horniness and sex is not a good thing anymore? So many questions.
everyone is ugly
>Does that mean straight horniness and sex is not a good thing anymore?
yes. that's the narrative being pushed.
it means half of them are gay and some form of mutt
sexy women is anti gay so cannot be allowed in western games
It means when gay men keep molesting you (male) and the game doesn't offer you a platonic friendship option, only "frick you butthole".
>if it was a nipig
There would be NO roleplaying whatsoever
>gays can't accept they are hypocrites
Nothing bad happens when you admit you are a hypocrite. It's cathartic if anything a good thing. Frickers never learn.
looks like a parody account
I hate being here in western Washington
Do something about it
>Horniness is okay when it's queer-friendly
>no boobs physics
How am I supposed to jerk off to this shit?
just be grateful there's no physics at all
I can't even hate shit like that webm because jap games are just as sexually depraved.
I hate the hypocrites who hate and censor jap games, while pushing BG3 sex as liberating.
the sort of depravity you see in jap games (including historicaly) isnt marketed and forced into the public eye on the same level as BG3 (and a slightly lesser extent cyber punk was though seemingly isnt as big)
thats the main difference
I hate safe-horniness so much. It's so immensly cringy.
It's a game that got marketed well, and is actually a GOOD GAME (most games with mass appeal skip this part!) to top it off.
Lots of pan-sexual sex and threesomes apparently.
gay porn game masquerading behind good encounter design and mediocre gameplay
so your average BioWare game?
its real rpg unlike cyberpunk
No major bugs on release, no micro or should I say MARCO transaction. No battle shit pass. No force online mode.
Everything what is shit about almost most of AAA games nowdays is no present there.
Oh and game is pretty good, not amazing but good.
Thirdworld shitskin detected.
leftist pandering, same with disco elysium,
below average garbage celebrated because they promote marxist ideologies.
Gay sex
DUDE SEX
beastiality unironically
It got other AAA Devs seething
Nothing really. And I've played, got bored at Act 3 and dropped it. This is easily one of the most overrated games in vidya history. I guess it's great for waifugays, but honestly I'd rather just play an actual tabletop.
It's pretty fricking bad for waifugays, with the amount of possibilities in it.
You can suck wieners in it
Damn, this is the most (You)s I've gotten on Ganker
>What's so special about it?
It's $60, not $70
The devs didn't compromise on much at all.
It's as complete of a game that's ever been shipped in the last decade.
it is a major game that got released with no microtransactions and only some minor bugs. something which was the norm up until 2010. just zoomies overhyping it i guess.
It has SEX and NUDITY but instead of the usual porn game nudity the girls are UGLY
This makes americans lose their minds because their culture focuses on ugliness
No, it's a good 8/10 but the bar has been set so low in recent years that anything that even remotely functions is considered a masterpiece.
Also >IGN
it's an AA game you moron
>OMG guys, BG3 is showing developers how it's done! Look at how mad they are about it! Good games never existed before BG3.
Meanwhile, thr so-called "developers" seething about BG3 are just some literally who fricktards on Twitter
How did this even become a conversation? In what universe would AAA game devs feel threatened by BG3? It's a turn-based RPG, no one is playing BG3 and thinking MW3 or Fortnite or whatever should be more like this, it's apples and oranges. And are devs really worried about being held to "higher" standards? Literally no one is saying all games have to be as complex as BG3, just put out your game and the customer decides whether it's fun or not. This whole thing just seems really bizarre, it doesn't even make sense. The only ones who should feel even remotely threatened are other devs of Western turn-based RPGs, which are pretty niche. And they're probably feeling more inspired than anything.
>In what universe would AAA game devs feel threatened by BG3?
BG3 may not be very popular in the grand scheme of things (lets' be honest, it's not, 700K players is nothing compared to yearly AAA launch at all) but it is very dense, has lots of content, most of it free. It's insane for developers to think abou tgiving players this much content and not drip-feeding it as a GAAS over the period of several hundred expansion packs and microtransactions
That's what they're really afraid of: the masses looking at this game, looking at the options it gives people, all for free, and demanding more
>the masses looking at this game, looking at the options it gives people, all for free, and demanding more
It's not free fricking shill
But it is free
You pay $60, the entry price for any video game, and you get all of that content, no questions asked.
name the COD or FIFA game that does that.
diablo has like 1/2 of the content this game has, and still has battle pass for some reason
It still feels like manufactured outrage, I can't imagine anyone actually thinks "feature/content-packed game will make players resent us". That's not how gamers or even average consumers think.
Something comes along and it will either interest them or not, that's it. Not everyone wants a dense game all the time, sometimes you just want to jump into something for 20 minutes and frick off. Sometimes you want a full PvE storymode experience, other times you want competitive PvP.
This is such a fricking nothingburger and all sides of the 'debate' seem completely batshit for missing the point: Fun game good, no-fun game bad. That's it. Everything else is irrelevant.
>manufactured outrage
Every single AAA game studio simply cannot economically spend 5 years making a game, releasing it in full, without battlepass, DLC, microtransaction, offline and DRM free.
The current industry of the last 15 years would collapse if they went back to creating games like that.
>Every single AAA game studio simply cannot economically spend 5 years making a game, releasing it in full, without battlepass, DLC, microtransaction, offline and DRM free.
they can.
they just wont because of fiduciary duty, they are required by the board of investors to do only the most profitable shit or the will go to jail.
so they can't, got it.
>It still feels like manufactured outrage
the headlines about "multiple devs are freaking about this game" is being pushed by places like IGN for cheap clicks. it was 10 or so tweets
>and demanding more
This is what your getting wrong, people are moronic and will be fine falling back to whatever major companies tell them to buy. They dont remember the bad and sure as thit they will nto remember the good either, they will keep buying shit and you cannot stop them by pointing out to better examples.
Nothing will change.
>BG3 may not be very popular in the grand scheme of things (lets' be honest, it's not, 700K players is nothing compared to yearly AAA launch at all)
lmao the hoops you dipshits jump through to try to say that BG3 isn't a massive success will never not be hilarious.
>free
you still need to buy the game dumbass
Also AAA devs don't give a shit since microtransactions make them a frickload more money than a single big release. Elden Ring didn't change anything for example.
He means free in the sense you don't have to pay extra for the content. You buy the game and that's it.
I can't believe BS3 was the first game to do this
Ofc it isn't, but more and more games are launching with little content and drip feeding content over years and charging for it is what he means.
We the same dev meltdowns over Elden Ring and TOTK tho. Saying that the bar was set too high.
>>We the same dev meltdowns over Elden Ring and TOTK tho. Saying that the bar was set too high.
And nothing actually changed anything, and it won't happen this time either.
True. People keep buying shit despite complaining about it so they have no incentive to change. It's like people that complain about budget airlines and still use them. It's just funny seeing some devs complain about it.
We saw*
>all for free
Pretty sure I paid $60 pre 2021 dollery doos for the game
>most of it free
Are you moronic or just stupid?
>700k players
do you know what concurrent means?
the number of owners is somewhere between 5 - 10 million
>Elden Ring sold 13.4 million copies worldwide by the end of March 2022, and 20 million by February 2023.
steamspy is shit anon. ER didn't sell between 20 and 50 million on steam alone
>How did this even become a conversation?
money. it's a means of drumming up conversation about a topic with fabricated opposition, a tactic used in aggressive marketing campaigns to make this seem grander than it isn't
Actually correct post, but people believe they are immune to advertising.
by standards they mean not adding shitty dlc or microtransactions, not having online only, not having drm which slows the game and ruins optimization, and not scamming people with unfinished garbage.
>How did this even become a conversation?
It's not. At least not any more than children arguing about consoles. Nobody at the AAA level is threatened by Baulder's Gate 3. It's so far beyond hyperbole it might as well be called a straight up lie.
And what does the 4th A stand for? A lot of what?
Huh? Looks PS3 or early PS4, slightly better looking than DA:O I'd say.
Looks like AA.
what the frick are you on about
> OP asks if game is first AAAA game
> Answer: "No, AAA, looks like low budget dogshit"
What are you confused about? Stop taking wizard dicks in the ass while reading replies
graphics have nothing to do with it moron
>Panicking that they have to not make absolute no effort garbage anymore.
The absolute state of this israelited industry.
no it's just the bar has been lowered to such pathetic levels that a game that would've just been acceptable (albeit the graphics are beyond the example) in 2006 is absolutely groundbreaking now. it doesn't really do anything new for CRPGs, hell it feels like D:OS3 just with D&D5E systems instead of their own system. It's a good thing that other devs are panicking over it because they just rose the bar higher than it has been for a while
First AAAA marketing budget for a AA game.
>Can't even break 1m
>Entire country flooded
>CCP lost Mandate of Heaven
It's going to report negative ROI and I will laugh endlessly about it
if by AAAA you mean most shilled game on Ganker, yes
no that is The Callisto Protocol
>act 3
>Black mermaid tells me someone's polluting the sea
>muh fricking immersion
>bravo larian
>where the frick do i go
>some exploring later i stumble on the submarine
>let's fricking go
>gortash: NONONO IMMA KILL THE PRISONERS
>i don't give a frick gortash do it
>land anyway
>YOU GOT 8 TURNS TO RUN AWAY
>????????????
>literally take the ladder back again
>cinematic escape cutscene
>bravo larian
>go back
>Black mermaid is mad and wants the dwarf
>kill everyone save the manlet
>fricking Black folk i swear
>welp gortash is mad time to disable the steel watch
>sneak in the foundry
>blindo baggins and some other manlets are fighting
>who the frick are even these people
>save the manlets
>"DID YOU SEE (lmao) MY DAUGHTER?" says blindo
>literally fricking who
>"YOU DIDN'T PROTECT HER"
>the manlets attack me
>bravo larian
>slaughter everybody
larian are hacks and people literally eat shit and call it chocolate
It takes talent to make an entire game feel like a filler DLC to MMORPG
Kind of annoyed that you frickers lied about this game. It's not half-bad. Ganker made it sound like it's the worst thing ever created.
>it's not half bad
>journos and zoomers praise it as the GOAT
WE lied?
No, because being a AAA or AA or "AAAAA" game is about budget, not scope or quality of game. BG3 was expensive to make, but not groundbreaking recordshattering expensive like it would have to be to be considered AAAA.
FF7 is commonly known as the first AAA game. GTA6 having a rumored budget of like 750 million would probably make it the first true AAAA game, but that remains to be seen.
Without even going into how good or not this game is, I fricking hate how overblown it's being. It's not all that much, just a rebranded Div OS 3
No, it's the old AAA. New AAA is like old A.
It's crazy how people eat up goyslop just because the marketing hid the egregious parts or tried to paint it as a joke, like the bear fricking when it's just a detailed fetish.
I'm sick to death of hearing about this fricking game. I'm never going to play it frick off you homosexuals.
>Baldur's Gate is an anomaly!
>You can't just have a 400 person team, millions of dollars, and year of development time to make a good game!
Isn't that describing 99% of all AAA studios though? What's their excuse? In fact, they have more freedom than Larian does. Larian had to deal with Wizards of the Coast + Hasbro breathing down their necks since they're using the D&D IP.
Maybe these devs are just lazy?
>free beta testing for 1 year and a half
>broken ui
>broken camera
>broken inventory system
>act 3 is a total clown fiesta and breaks completely if you don't follow larian writing
>people are praising how polished the game is
>act 3 is a total clown fiesta and breaks completely if you don't follow larian writing
Explain I skipped the bulk of it because the game started lagging hardcore. Not graphically the fps was fine but some internal system was struggling. Certain interactions like damage calcuations or simply starting a conversations were delayed by seconds. It was extremely painful so I killed the bhaal b***h and sided with the other guy who immediately dies.
That's because, in the case of all RPGs in the last 10 years, they've been completely broken from the get-go, and needed months/years of patching and fan fixes.
this, unfortunately. This game is only RELATIVELY polished. The state this game is in wouldn't be acceptable a decade or two ago.
>broken inventory system
It's been broken since Divinity OS maybe even since Divinity II
no thats unironically RDR2 if you consider its budget, how many people worked on it and for how long
>independent
>self published
it's AA
adding in gays and disabled morons is part of the AAA pre-requisite
>AAAA game
I hope you get a pay cut for being too obvious.
>Balding Gay
>have twenty BG threads in the catalog
>have zero idea which ones are swarmed with shitposters and which are legitimate discussion
Was giving Wyll more than 3 levels in Warlock a mistake? He's Lv6 and still only has two spell slots and Misty Step is far too valuable a spell for me to use Stinking Cloud or Fireball instead. I have a feeling Warlock peaks at Lv2/3 and it's best to pivot into Sorcerer or Paladin so I can actually do stuff other than Eldritch Blast twice a turn.
Honestly I think it's much harder to frick up leveling any one pure class than it is trying to dip or multiclass, but respecs are so cheap that if you want to try something you may as well go for it. You really don't need to hardcore min-max to do well in the game, anyways.
>mistake
no but give him sorc levels and you'll be fine.
>Larian Studios game
>"this could set new expectations"
I can't tell you. I don't lpay games made for gays.
>filled with bugs
>3+ years in alpha demo testing
yup, the first AAAA game
>all that early access time
>can't even place items in bags and have them collapse into one stack by sorting
I had to reload old saves and redo fights today 3 different times because shit bugged out so I'm gonna go with no.
>gamers being very vocal about what they want in a modern AAA video game
>devs:
Baldur's Gate 3 is not not impressive than the game from 23 fricking years ago
The bar has just been THAT LOW that an actually functioning game that doesn't go out of its way to piss off its customers is selling millions and making publishers panic
>Is Baldur’s Gate 3 the first AAAA game ever?
What about witcher 3 and any of the GTAs? Why's everyone suddenly scared of a generic crpg
Because it isn't broken on release
the game is buggy as frick, despite being in early access for years
i've had several game breaking bugs
>got stuck and couldnt progress with the main story until they updated the game
>got stuck again later and couldnt progress in the game or change party members until i reloaded an earlier save
>lost all my gold to a bug, too lazy to reload older save since it's not like there's anything to buy anyway
>tons of bugged dialogue and other shit
most of the bugs are later in the game, i assume you havent gotten past the first area
>cheap as frick
>mobile tier gameplay
>no cutscenes
>AAAA
lol, lmao even
what happened with "the customer is always right"?
>120 hours of quality content for $60
This is not sustainable
I realized there's one group of people I especially dislike - those who don't enjoy the game in question, but still want to be part of the conversation about it. Souls titles were always a textbook example, but BG3 also seems to be one for people who don't like turn-based CRPGs and still want the game to conform to their wishes. It's also the latest NEW THING they want to talk about.
Anon, have you ever considered the possibility that people actually enjoy action games and crpgs and think souls and bg3 wildly miss the mark? I agree it's stupid for them to be flooding threads, but acting like the only haters don't like games that have been distilled into normie bait and/or betray their predecessors is moronicly dishonest.
Not planning to buy this game until its on sale and I finish playing other stuff in my backlog but I do love how much this is exposing game devs for being absolute garbage and getting scared at the smallest prospect of the bar being raised back to what it was like 15 years ago
the calisto protocol devs literally did call it the first first quad AAAA game, all for a jank zombie beat em up.
>Calisto Protocol
did that game even come out?
more like aaax
the x implying x-rate content
and no it's not the first
the first was clearly cyberpunk
I mean I guess I kind of understand a genre that skews toward the low end of AA being threatened by a bigger budget game within it blowing up, in the past stuff like the witcher wasn't in the same category of crpg. immediately getting defensive on twitter without prompt is probably the worst PR move possible though.