Is disc rot real?
There are multiple cases on the internet of MGS Twin Snakes having the discs deteriorating over time. I grabbed my copy to check and, yep, the first disc exhibits the "rot" the same as all the others talk about it in the 2010s.
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You just used the first disc more often and the cubes drive is just a shit design made to ruin discs.
Should I be playing my GC gaems on Wii?
Playing them off an SD card with Nintendont, yes.
It's literally a problem that has been documented and explained. The process they used to press the discs was fricked up so most people naturally see their disc becoming discolored and having a weird substance appear on the clear area in the center.
Everyone knows about this. It was a bad press and the top will wrinkle with time, and do no actual damage to the disc, and that was only with TS, and not even all batches of it either.
>everybody knows
except the three posters in a row who are saying it is bullshit and something I did. That ones I am replying to....
“Disc rot” is a shitposting term, and historically has not been used to describe what is happening to Twin Snakes, specifically, and its flawed manufacturing process.
I bought a copy used, the top labels are wrinkled so I was worried they wouldn’t run but both discs run fine.
I have Warner Bros. Discs that look fine but won’t work in any Blu-ray or dvd drive, they were made between like 2005-2009 or some range like that.
>documented and explained.
>tard forums
lol
>Product was manufactured badly once, which is the cause of the "rot"
>SEE THIS MEANS ALL OF THEM WILL ROT OVER TIME
I have
scratched and mistreated pirate copies of games I made in fricking 1999
that still worked when I fixed my old PSX and booted them up last year
I think it's God's way of punishing Twin Snakes for being the worst remake of all time.
What's with all the coping contrarians ITT? Literally everyone understands "disc rot" comes down to shitty manufacturing. Go outside and breathe some fresh air, please.
Based and God-pilled.
>Is disc rot real?
Not really.
What IS realy is the disc damage if you don't fricking take care of it, you monkey.
Define "take care of them". I had backup discs in my climate controlled home in a dark closet for 10 years & nearly all of them deteriorated & couldn't be read.
Shit format, esp for anything archival or game related.
NTA, but I'd also advise you to "take care of them". And I'm talking about your brain cells and not abusing them with so much drugs and alcohol that you can't understand the difference between original discs and backups, the difference between reality and your larps.
I have 30+ year old CD-Rs, some of the oldest out there, which are still fine. I even checked a CD-R of a "bad" brand from the mid/late 90s, and it read with no errors. Maybe it's just luck of the draw.
you can't just leave them in the darkness you have to take them for walks once in a while
they died of sadness
>Define "take care of them". I had backup discs in my climate controlled home in a dark closet for 10 years & nearly all of them deteriorated & couldn't be read.
KEWL STORY BRUH, THEN EVERYONE KLAP
>>Is disc rot real?
>Not really.
You should let companies like Criterion that've issued recalls in the past over disc rot know that they wasted their money. Or maybe you're just a moronic homosexual.
>“Disc rot” is a shitposting term
You're deranged. It's a standard term used throughout the internet in various communities that deal with physical media. Not everything is about your super serious sekrit club, you autistic moron.
>Criterion that've issued recalls in the past over disc rot
See
and have a nice day you moronic Black person
Twin Snakes bait is 10 years too old, get new material.
I've had certain discs for decades just laying about and never experienced rot. Guessing those who do experience it live in a humid third world shack or something.
Only on discs that were poorly manufactured.
the grey colorant used is the issue. a couple other games had the same issue. only the paint layer flakes off but the foil data layer is more prone to damage so thats a bad thing.,
I remember I posted in a thread like this past decade. Think my copy is the same and what was similar of what its been said in other threads. Don't know if humidity or dryness played a role.
This is the real issue here. If you have a gamecube game or any other disc media that has the paint flaking issue, do not use it. The paint can start coming off entirely and your disc drive will get all fricked up. I learned the hard way and had to replace the entire Wii's disc drive.
>disc rot
Did you store these discs in a lake or something?
>MGS Twin Snakes
And nothing of value was lost
Buddy, I can't even be convinced that you're real.
people keep saying it is but it never happens to me
The disc still works fine, its just the top label gets fricky.
I never had it happen to me a single time, and not even with twin snakes which I've had since it was released.
Physical media bros? Your response?
I own things you lose sleep over them, it feels really nice.
Ah geez if only there were ways to play these games without discs hmm humm I dunno.
>copies file
Wow I have another copy.
>copies it again
and another, and another
Neat one copy you have there though.
Yes yes, that's a good boy. You sure showed that big mean collector who's boss!
I already have disk rot on a Saturn game, Sega Rally 2 on Dreamcast and Soulcalibur 2 on Xbox.
I think PS1 games will never have them thanks to the black plastic of the disc.
the real disc rot that you will encounter is specific pressings having issues from their manufacturing process. these are things you cannot control. Twin Snakes for GC is well known to have this problem, though it still affects a minority of discs.
I have never personally seen disc rot on anything and i've had extremely scratched discs sit decades in bad storage conditions (humidity etc) that still work fine.
It's mostly a problem with certain Laserdiscs and certain games like Twin Snakes. I have a lot of old optical media which still looks great and plays great
Clean it up, ya filthy animal.
Huge issue with Saturn and Sega CD games. They all used cheap as frick press and will be worth nothing in 10 years when they rot.
This is why I don't collect Saturn and Sega CD games.
Why did you chew a chiclet and stick the wad inside your GCN disc drive for?
>The almighty above decided to frick up twin snakes disc in specific and no other gamecube discs
This is definitive proof that twins snake is shit and you need to play the original.
It's real but I've only had a blu-ray rot on me. Criterion had one that was recalled. My copy is now a nice bronze color and doesn't play anymore.
>bronze
This happened to the first disc of my Frankenstein dvd box set. With those it seems to be a universal problem.
Carlos!
It's real and I have a theory that it's actually more prevelant in sealed games. I have bought several sealed 360 games over the last few years and opened them (sue me), and a ton of them had pinholes and these weird puddle looking discolorations, and would fail to play or have missing sound effects etc. It definitely has to do with manufacturing process and/or environment.
>physical items degrade over time
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For crying out loud the issue with Twin Snakes and other Gamecube games isn't disc rot. It's just the shoddy label peeling off. Gamecube games aren't CDs, they're mini DVDs. Label damage doesn't mean anything for these because the data layer is in the middle of the disc sandwiched between to thick layers of plastic, unlike CDs where the data layer is on top with a thin layer of lacquer and the label being the only thing to protect it.
I have a copy of twin snakes that has the same peeling issue. It works fine and all the data can be accounted for with a checksum check. The issue is purely cosmetic.
Disc rot is not real, for the most part. There were specific lots of discs with manufacturing defects which led to disc rot. But normal pressed discs don't rot. CDR's rot. But not normal discs.