People learn differently, giving an additional option to learn something can't be detrimental. If it's not working for the person there's always the traditional ways
The concept doesn't have to be detrimental but Duolingo certainly is.
It makes a terrible job of explaining and teaching grammar rules, it is full of mistakes and mistranslations (many native speakers aren't able to pass the tests because of how many errors are there) and at a certain point it's teaching you how to win at Duolingo instead of teaching you the language.
It depends on the individual.
However, what does not depend on the individual is that there are good and bad resources for learning a language, and Duolingo is one of the latter.
I liked the story sections until they ruined it all with their awful characters and proceeded to frick up previously alright stories with their inclusion.
It helped me stay on it for a while after I'd come back from my holiday, but Duo really only helped with some basic phrases. I imagine it'd be pretty good if you used it alongside speaking/learning a language with a native speaker.
If you want to learn a language use picrel
I went from knowing 0 spanish to being able to hold a basic conversation in a span of 2 months. That's a level you're not gonna reach even after a year on Duolingo.
the "gamifying" aspects of duolingo are pretty shallow, didn't make me very interested.
I'm listening to this
right now and so far I can say "ana mish fehim"
Unironically because the French shit themselves when they say how easy Esperanto is to read and write, and they started a World War in order to prevent it from becoming lingua franca. However, in their hubris, they made English the default world language, permanently damning Americans to be monolingual.
Because you will instead become a zombie bombarded with ads, because your usb chip was filled with botnet spyware
either pay $299 + tip for full language database (one dialect of one laguage) that comes with spyware or pirate language from shady russian site that may or may not contain ransomware that will shut off all motor functions and delete all important brain files unless you pay them 10,000 yuallarcoin (they will not turn you back on after you pay them)
I started learning a language and then stopped because I was just like, what's the point? Hundreds of millions of people all around and they all speak English. What's the damn point, it's just a waste of time.
I am Russian and I don't know what to tell you. The key to learning a language is consuming a lot of content, and I just don't know what kind of content there is that could be interesting for someone from the outside. That is, unless you're only willing to relegate yourself to classic Russian literature (difficult and a bit outdated for language), a couple of post-modernist writers like Pelevin, imageboards, or shitty rap music.
That's the only reason why learning English worked for me, it actually opened a gateway to other shit I was interested in (may possibly also work with Japanese)
Nah it's a dying language here - after the war has started even people who spoke mostly russian before are relearning ukrainian to use as a main language (myself included).
Then you're probably gonna be pretty shit at it, bud.
And yeah, just taking over Ukraine (which is still in progress) set Russia back for probably decades, so I wouldn't worry about it.
The only use for something like Japanese is using Duolingo strictly for your first month to get the basest grips of things (while you also learn both kanas, which shouldn't take you more than a week AT MOST).
Once you learn both kanas and did 2-4 weeks of Duolingo, drop that shit and don't come back.
Get your phone, download Kanji study (for Kanji, kana, and radical memorization), Anki (for words, although don't lay on it too thick, consuming content should be your first priority ASAP), and BunPro (for grammar).
And then just grind that shit while reading manga.
That's how I learned English, although I didn't even write down any words and always felt like "overnoting" can be detrimental long-term. If you come across an unfamiliar word, it usually means you're gonna encounter it a couple more times soon, by which point you should be able to just discern its meaning from context alone. Works for idioms and larger sentences, too.
However, this doesn't apply if your skills are too low (you're only learning basic words like "mother") or too high (the only new words you come by are probably very rare/specialized and it's unlikely you'll encounter them any time soon).
At the same time, I imagine this doesn't work that well for a language like Japanese, but definitely works for other Euro languages like German. Just recently replayed Ace Attorney in DE and understood about 90% of it despite not interacting with the language in like 8 years and only remembering grammar.
Yeah for noting, early on when I found new words I'd write them down and the pronounciation and the meanings so I took a lot of notes.
Now I just write the word down once. Only the word.
Just writing things helps me remember them.
No, I am still learning. Will I ever be able to do that? Possibly, but that isn't really my goal. Still, my native language is pretty different from English and much harder, so I feel like it sort of helps me understand some broader language concepts easier opposed to someone who is just an English speaker. Other than that, any language is perfectly learnable by yourself, the difference is the time it's gonna take and you're willing to put in.
I'd say it's entirely possible to become like an N2 speaker in 3 years. Probably much faster if you're just grinding at it at home without much other stuff to do.
Most people ITT are EFLs, mate. Make whatever fuming racist justification for being a languagelet, the fact is you're half as literate as a bilingual chad.
Being bilingual is a bit weird. As a kid, before I could read, I used to just "read" comics by flipping through them and looking at the funny pictures, until reading just clicked and I started paying attention to the words in the bubbles. Then it happened again later with English when I was playing vidya.
It's very useful actually. The biggest obstacle in language learning is not the difficulty of the language, lack of access to materials, slow progress or inefficiency but plain quitting. Ton of people start learning languages but they then quit.
Gamification can make you maintain a routine even if you become tired of learning. Leader boards, daily quests, social pressure from maintaining a streak that your friends can see are useful tools.
I agree with the premise, but duolingo is still shit.
You need to take an actual interactive text-book, add some reading/watching/playing recommendations for all levels to it, then gamify it all, and then it may work.
I'm already slowly learning 3 languages (german, japanese and latin) on top of already knowing english quite well but i getting burnt out and forced to do a lesson rather than actually learning.
Plus it fricking sucks that the only tips duo gives you is when you look at the comments because the persons who made this app couldn't give an explanation as to why said language has a different way to build its sentences.
Duolingo is hardly a good way to learn a language at a proficient level. But it's an excellent tool for introducing studying habits into your routine.
If you can't get a 100 day streak in Duolingo, you probably don't have the discipline to learn by yourself with textbooks.
Duolingo taught me to read kana and about 20 or so of the easiest Kanji so I can understand about 1%~2% of written Japanese. Absolutely not terrible for something I put 15 minutes into.
The problem is Duolingo doesnt teach you anything, it just asks you stuff. I have been using it for learning Dutch and as a German person, that works quite well due to how similar the languages are
I also checked out Japanese, I did take a jap class for 2 years at one point, and its so bad for that language. At most it can help you read hiragana and katakana
Well, these internet language programs do a good enough job of giving You information and allowing You to fill in the blanks. If You're asking for more in a language program, move to whatever foreign country or pray for some divine intervention to just instantly LEARN.
It can help people who don't have the discipline to learn a language but get easily addicted to games like me
But in the end I just do my daily lesson as fast as possible and don't really try to learn. The app being shit with no explanation about the exercises doesn't help.
Language learning is all about constant exposure and repetition. You can't really make it more fun without making the process less optimal as well. You can add other features like competitive rankings between friends, daily streaks, etc. which can encourage someone to stick with the process. But there's only so much you can do with the actual lessons.
As for Duolingo itself, for a free app it's a decent starting point for someone that otherwise had no interest in language learning. But you will quickly hit a ceiling and you'd be better off doing something else. And it's not worth paying for their subscription, since you'll get far better value-for-money from a textbook.
I remember duolingo was actually decent like 5 years ago. There was at least some info on the topic you just clicked on, the paragraphs were short, but still helpful enough. Right now it's just mindless grinding.
I'm an Irish American, my great grandmother was from county west meathe and my grand father on my fathers side was from county kildare, I wanted to use this app to learn my ancestors language and be able to understand anyone if i ever went back to my ancestors land whether to visit or even move, and I'm trying to learn with this app and it's not working. I know some people say to learn through games in the language you want to learn but I can't find literally anything I know Ireland was always the poorest country in the world and the world's most oppressed race in history but I thought the EU poured trillions and built up the country to make them rich but I guess not....
Can any Irish dudes or maybe even members of our celtic diaspora who learned it let me know any methods or maybe there are a bunch of games translated into irish i never heard of, resident evil? zelda? mario rpg? metroids? castlevania? mario and luigi? pokemon?
You can't "gamify" learning. I guess technically you can but you won't learn a damn thing. That's why American education is garbage. Learning is a boring ass activity and if you're learning on your own then you better learn how to learn first.
If you need some sort of game to learn a language you literally will never make it. I've never ever met someone who got anywhere near to a decent proficiency level using duolingo or some similar shit.
For someone looking to only speak japanese, and not being able to read it. What would you recommend?
At this point I understand a lot of words through anime, but constructing sentences is not possible atm.
It's impossible to learn how to speak without conversations. Even textbooks will only teach you how to read and write at best.
A lot of second language learners are able to read, write and listen to language well but speaking is a huge hurdle if you don't actually have natives to talk to.
Follow the /jp/ guide https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/ >What would you recommend?
Immerse a lot. I think you will benefit from reading because it allows you to use Anki and create flashcards to remember words better. Learning to read Japanese is generally easier than learning to listen.
don't fall for scams like Pimsleur. Learning japanese was and always will be free.
Duolingo is full of israeli propaganda >white people shown as freaks >other are designed cool >male say all the times that they love "him" and vise versa
It is very pozzed and genuinely gets in the way of learning when they put in phrases you're unlikely to actually hear like "the men look for their dresses"
people shown as freaks
are designed cool
nah I disagree
White characters: >Chad Muscle Dad >His son >Goth GF >A god damn bear (white in spirit)
Non-whites: >Obnoxious overenthusiastic hijab wearer >gay Indian-looking dad (no really he's gay) >side-shaved asian lesbian >her disappointed cat-lady mother >black lady with a beehive on her head
I've been thinking of ideas of how to make a game that can help you to learn a language. Anyone else got ideas? I understand if you don't want to share because anyone that could come up with (and implement) a fun system of learning that actually works would become very rich.
>learn basic English in school >play English video games until I'm fluent
Why can't I do that with Japanese or rather why hasn't anyone made a decent game for learning Japanese?
I mean just imagine
>first game teaching you Kana and some vocab + grammar >game replaces some english vocab with the japanese one step by step so you get used to it >next game starts with kanji and adds more grammar to it >if the game teaches you video game vocabulary like dunno 化け物 you can soon use it for other games as well
At least in my head that sounds awesome and easy to do.
I mean imagine playing a trilogy of jap learning games and then being able to play easy JRPGs like DQ or some shit.
I've been playing Duolingo's Mandarin and I think it's been a good introduction. I started only knowing Nihao=hello.
The forum has also been good to read how modern usage is changing and what vocabulary is used now.
Anki SRS Flashcard Software: https://apps.ankiweb.net/
HSK 1-6 2012 Vocab Anki Deck: https://drive.google.com/file/d/123pXHfElVObijk_6YUwmzMtaqAb9kWmM/view
"Spoonfed" Chinese Sentences and Audio Anki Deck: https://mega.nz/file/xYY1TAYD#ASxyjMh32yx93gCZnYIQWYh9pf-FoNCZbks_Fadno18
Integrated (Simplified) Chinese Volume 1 Part 1 Audio and Video: https://mllab.sfsu.edu/content/integrated-chinese-level-1-part-1-textkbook
Integrated (Simplified) Chinese Level 1 Part 1 Textbook: https://www.pdfdrive.com/integrated-chinese-simplified-characters-textbook-level-1-part-1-3rd-edition-d177946945.html
Been looking for an alternative for learning Italian, either English->Italian or German->Italian, the latter because I noticed they have a surprising amount of things in common that makes "bridging" the two languages surprisingly easy
Duolingo feels too grindy and artificial
I'm gonna start learning French in the fall and have been stocking up on roms for old games that have french translations. I recommend this for an excuse to revisit old games.
The best way to learn a language is through comprehensible input.
Why would it be detrimental?
People learn differently, giving an additional option to learn something can't be detrimental. If it's not working for the person there's always the traditional ways
The concept doesn't have to be detrimental but Duolingo certainly is.
It makes a terrible job of explaining and teaching grammar rules, it is full of mistakes and mistranslations (many native speakers aren't able to pass the tests because of how many errors are there) and at a certain point it's teaching you how to win at Duolingo instead of teaching you the language.
>and at a certain point it's teaching you how to win at Duolingo instead of teaching you the language.
Kek
What are you going to do about it?
I agree that Duolingo is garbage. So how could gamifying language learning be done better, in theory?
you forgot to ask whether thats desirable and conducive to the learning process
no
It depends on the individual.
However, what does not depend on the individual is that there are good and bad resources for learning a language, and Duolingo is one of the latter.
Last time I tried duolingo it was just a glorified Anki. I wouldn't call that shit a game
I do Memrise, it is glorified Anki
WaniKani is glorified Anki. Duolingo literally got rid of its flashcards.
duolingo is ok to start with but after a certain level you will get diminishing results
I liked the story sections until they ruined it all with their awful characters and proceeded to frick up previously alright stories with their inclusion.
It helped me stay on it for a while after I'd come back from my holiday, but Duo really only helped with some basic phrases. I imagine it'd be pretty good if you used it alongside speaking/learning a language with a native speaker.
Yo quiero impregnar lily con queso nacho taco chimichanga
leche leche leche
Duolingo is literally and blatantly not language learning; it is a simple phone game themed around language learning so as to make you feel productive
Du bist ein brot
i hit a wall when i got to 3 ع in arabic
If you want to learn a language use picrel
I went from knowing 0 spanish to being able to hold a basic conversation in a span of 2 months. That's a level you're not gonna reach even after a year on Duolingo.
Es bueno saberlo anon, sigue así!
If you know English then you can already guess what a lot of Spanish means
What if I want to learn Finnish
the "gamifying" aspects of duolingo are pretty shallow, didn't make me very interested.
I'm listening to this
right now and so far I can say "ana mish fehim"
>no Japanese
>there's Italian though!
cazzo
Duolingo is pretty bad. Don't learn Russian
Did you try Duolingo for Russian?
I would argue it’s even better than current “conventional” methods because most people get bored.
It's fine. But an app like that can only do so much. You need to actually study at some point.
Why can't it be the future where you just buy a usb chip and put it in your brain and learn every language
Why have a brain at all when hardware is so useful
Why have humans at all when machines do everything so much better
Why can't everyone just learn Esperanto instead?
It's soulless and sounds like shit.
Unironically because the French shit themselves when they say how easy Esperanto is to read and write, and they started a World War in order to prevent it from becoming lingua franca. However, in their hubris, they made English the default world language, permanently damning Americans to be monolingual.
we already speak ingles tho
Because you will instead become a zombie bombarded with ads, because your usb chip was filled with botnet spyware
either pay $299 + tip for full language database (one dialect of one laguage) that comes with spyware or pirate language from shady russian site that may or may not contain ransomware that will shut off all motor functions and delete all important brain files unless you pay them 10,000 yuallarcoin (they will not turn you back on after you pay them)
>Hacker mememan detected
>Uninstalling English
>Installing memespeak
is this shit even useful
I think it's great for learning the most common words and phrases of a language and basic Grammer. While also consuming native content.
I started learning a language and then stopped because I was just like, what's the point? Hundreds of millions of people all around and they all speak English. What's the damn point, it's just a waste of time.
Much if the time it won't accept correct answers, it will only accept expected answers.
Intredasting.
I wonder if there are really people behind duolingo that check the sentences or if it's google translated.
So typical. Edsoft is going fricking nowhere. Feel bad for kids who are forced to put up with this kind of shit.
>people say Duolingo is shit
>language transfer has no Russian
recommended website for learning Russian? (EN->RU or DE->RU)
>tfw still no answer
I am Russian and I don't know what to tell you. The key to learning a language is consuming a lot of content, and I just don't know what kind of content there is that could be interesting for someone from the outside. That is, unless you're only willing to relegate yourself to classic Russian literature (difficult and a bit outdated for language), a couple of post-modernist writers like Pelevin, imageboards, or shitty rap music.
That's the only reason why learning English worked for me, it actually opened a gateway to other shit I was interested in (may possibly also work with Japanese)
my intention is to learn Russian to be prepared in case of a takeover
I started learning the alphabet and I can somewhat read anything in cyrillic but I just don't understand what it means lol
already done with the alphabet
chinese are turbo israelites on steroids
I'd rather die than be anything less than hostile towards them
i was surprised how easy the cyrillic was tb2h
lol looking at how they're struggling to take over fricking Ukraine I don't think you have anything to worry about bro
Maybe he is Ukrainian
Nah it's a dying language here - after the war has started even people who spoke mostly russian before are relearning ukrainian to use as a main language (myself included).
Then you're probably gonna be pretty shit at it, bud.
And yeah, just taking over Ukraine (which is still in progress) set Russia back for probably decades, so I wouldn't worry about it.
Bro if that's your rationale then start learning Mandarin instead.
The accents are so frustrating
you couldn't make me learn Chinese with a gun to my head. And I already understand written Japanese
Are you native kraut or did you learn it, if it's the latter how did you learn it?
native kraut
also speaking 5 languages, not counting russian
The only use for something like Japanese is using Duolingo strictly for your first month to get the basest grips of things (while you also learn both kanas, which shouldn't take you more than a week AT MOST).
Once you learn both kanas and did 2-4 weeks of Duolingo, drop that shit and don't come back.
Get your phone, download Kanji study (for Kanji, kana, and radical memorization), Anki (for words, although don't lay on it too thick, consuming content should be your first priority ASAP), and BunPro (for grammar).
And then just grind that shit while reading manga.
What I usually do is just play games in Japanese and whenever I come across a word I don't know I write it down.
That's about it.
That's how I learned English, although I didn't even write down any words and always felt like "overnoting" can be detrimental long-term. If you come across an unfamiliar word, it usually means you're gonna encounter it a couple more times soon, by which point you should be able to just discern its meaning from context alone. Works for idioms and larger sentences, too.
However, this doesn't apply if your skills are too low (you're only learning basic words like "mother") or too high (the only new words you come by are probably very rare/specialized and it's unlikely you'll encounter them any time soon).
At the same time, I imagine this doesn't work that well for a language like Japanese, but definitely works for other Euro languages like German. Just recently replayed Ace Attorney in DE and understood about 90% of it despite not interacting with the language in like 8 years and only remembering grammar.
Yeah for noting, early on when I found new words I'd write them down and the pronounciation and the meanings so I took a lot of notes.
Now I just write the word down once. Only the word.
Just writing things helps me remember them.
Would you say you've learned enough to move to Japan and get a job there?
No, I am still learning. Will I ever be able to do that? Possibly, but that isn't really my goal. Still, my native language is pretty different from English and much harder, so I feel like it sort of helps me understand some broader language concepts easier opposed to someone who is just an English speaker. Other than that, any language is perfectly learnable by yourself, the difference is the time it's gonna take and you're willing to put in.
I'd say it's entirely possible to become like an N2 speaker in 3 years. Probably much faster if you're just grinding at it at home without much other stuff to do.
>native english speaker
>mfw I don't NEED to learn any other language
Go ahead and respond in some babble, I've already won.
>native english speaker
>mfw i am really bad at this language
Most people ITT are EFLs, mate. Make whatever fuming racist justification for being a languagelet, the fact is you're half as literate as a bilingual chad.
Being bilingual is a bit weird. As a kid, before I could read, I used to just "read" comics by flipping through them and looking at the funny pictures, until reading just clicked and I started paying attention to the words in the bubbles. Then it happened again later with English when I was playing vidya.
It's very useful actually. The biggest obstacle in language learning is not the difficulty of the language, lack of access to materials, slow progress or inefficiency but plain quitting. Ton of people start learning languages but they then quit.
Gamification can make you maintain a routine even if you become tired of learning. Leader boards, daily quests, social pressure from maintaining a streak that your friends can see are useful tools.
I agree with the premise, but duolingo is still shit.
You need to take an actual interactive text-book, add some reading/watching/playing recommendations for all levels to it, then gamify it all, and then it may work.
Just play video games in the language you want to learn instead of this shit
So which language are you guys learning?
For me it's Spanish
Thai
I'm already slowly learning 3 languages (german, japanese and latin) on top of already knowing english quite well but i getting burnt out and forced to do a lesson rather than actually learning.
Plus it fricking sucks that the only tips duo gives you is when you look at the comments because the persons who made this app couldn't give an explanation as to why said language has a different way to build its sentences.
it probably would be helpful if it wasn't littered with mistakes and awful explanations
It's okay, I guess. Language apps are okay as an additional tool, but you obviously need to use a textbook and talk to natives to get results.
Duolingo is hardly a good way to learn a language at a proficient level. But it's an excellent tool for introducing studying habits into your routine.
If you can't get a 100 day streak in Duolingo, you probably don't have the discipline to learn by yourself with textbooks.
Duolingo taught me to read kana and about 20 or so of the easiest Kanji so I can understand about 1%~2% of written Japanese. Absolutely not terrible for something I put 15 minutes into.
What's a good German textbook for beginners? I've been using German made simple and its much better than Duolingo but still not amazing.
How should i go about learning German?
watch Drachenlord
Don't. There's pretty much no value in learning German unless you absolutely want to read classic German literature in the original form.
German is the wurst
The problem is Duolingo doesnt teach you anything, it just asks you stuff. I have been using it for learning Dutch and as a German person, that works quite well due to how similar the languages are
I also checked out Japanese, I did take a jap class for 2 years at one point, and its so bad for that language. At most it can help you read hiragana and katakana
>Gamifying language
>Duolingo bird image
Well, these internet language programs do a good enough job of giving You information and allowing You to fill in the blanks. If You're asking for more in a language program, move to whatever foreign country or pray for some divine intervention to just instantly LEARN.
play videojuegos in a different language, ez
Not if it's in moon runes.
It can help people who don't have the discipline to learn a language but get easily addicted to games like me
But in the end I just do my daily lesson as fast as possible and don't really try to learn. The app being shit with no explanation about the exercises doesn't help.
Language learning is all about constant exposure and repetition. You can't really make it more fun without making the process less optimal as well. You can add other features like competitive rankings between friends, daily streaks, etc. which can encourage someone to stick with the process. But there's only so much you can do with the actual lessons.
As for Duolingo itself, for a free app it's a decent starting point for someone that otherwise had no interest in language learning. But you will quickly hit a ceiling and you'd be better off doing something else. And it's not worth paying for their subscription, since you'll get far better value-for-money from a textbook.
I remember duolingo was actually decent like 5 years ago. There was at least some info on the topic you just clicked on, the paragraphs were short, but still helpful enough. Right now it's just mindless grinding.
I know how to say hello in Chinese thanks to it.
Leagues destroyed this app. Got so fed up by staying in the highest league that I eventually stopped learning a language through this fricking app.
言語を学ぶのは難しいです。でも、頑張れね!アノンちゃんはいつもカッコイイなー
thanks bro you're pretty kakkoi yourself
I'm an Irish American, my great grandmother was from county west meathe and my grand father on my fathers side was from county kildare, I wanted to use this app to learn my ancestors language and be able to understand anyone if i ever went back to my ancestors land whether to visit or even move, and I'm trying to learn with this app and it's not working. I know some people say to learn through games in the language you want to learn but I can't find literally anything I know Ireland was always the poorest country in the world and the world's most oppressed race in history but I thought the EU poured trillions and built up the country to make them rich but I guess not....
Can any Irish dudes or maybe even members of our celtic diaspora who learned it let me know any methods or maybe there are a bunch of games translated into irish i never heard of, resident evil? zelda? mario rpg? metroids? castlevania? mario and luigi? pokemon?
Here's all I found on romhacking dot net https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3178/
Thanks bro I'll check it out!
No-one in ireland really speaks irish lmao. Unless you visit the arran islands don't be a weird amerimutt who turns up speaking gaelic.
You can't "gamify" learning. I guess technically you can but you won't learn a damn thing. That's why American education is garbage. Learning is a boring ass activity and if you're learning on your own then you better learn how to learn first.
anki reps every single morning
read nhk easy https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/easy/
read VNs
every 2-3 hours per day.
If you need some sort of game to learn a language you literally will never make it. I've never ever met someone who got anywhere near to a decent proficiency level using duolingo or some similar shit.
For someone looking to only speak japanese, and not being able to read it. What would you recommend?
At this point I understand a lot of words through anime, but constructing sentences is not possible atm.
It's impossible to learn how to speak without conversations. Even textbooks will only teach you how to read and write at best.
A lot of second language learners are able to read, write and listen to language well but speaking is a huge hurdle if you don't actually have natives to talk to.
Pimsleur will get basics into you. Do a lesson daily, while going on a walk or something.
Thanks, I will look into it.
Follow the /jp/ guide https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/
>What would you recommend?
Immerse a lot. I think you will benefit from reading because it allows you to use Anki and create flashcards to remember words better. Learning to read Japanese is generally easier than learning to listen.
don't fall for scams like Pimsleur. Learning japanese was and always will be free.
Duolingo is full of israeli propaganda
>white people shown as freaks
>other are designed cool
>male say all the times that they love "him" and vise versa
It is very pozzed and genuinely gets in the way of learning when they put in phrases you're unlikely to actually hear like "the men look for their dresses"
>we'll teach you the language as we wished it existed
>not as it actually exists
>also it will be randomly wrong every now and then
Yeah I'm thinking that's a big yikes.
that's why Ganker hates duolingo and does AJATT.
people shown as freaks
are designed cool
nah I disagree
White characters:
>Chad Muscle Dad
>His son
>Goth GF
>A god damn bear (white in spirit)
Non-whites:
>Obnoxious overenthusiastic hijab wearer
>gay Indian-looking dad (no really he's gay)
>side-shaved asian lesbian
>her disappointed cat-lady mother
>black lady with a beehive on her head
>tfw no games in Dutch
I prefer traduction development like ai even if i ruin your works , since its unrealistic genocide you and impose my language as lingua franca
I've been thinking of ideas of how to make a game that can help you to learn a language. Anyone else got ideas? I understand if you don't want to share because anyone that could come up with (and implement) a fun system of learning that actually works would become very rich.
Hentai VR where some oppai girl fricks you but it occasionally pauses to a black screen with one word you have to translate quickly to get back to it
I want to frick duo
How hard it is to create an Anki deck from scratch? Do I really need to make audio files for every card or is that not that important?
It's done automatically.
Here https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/table-of-contents.html read the articles about sentence mining.
>learn basic English in school
>play English video games until I'm fluent
Why can't I do that with Japanese or rather why hasn't anyone made a decent game for learning Japanese?
I mean just imagine
>first game teaching you Kana and some vocab + grammar
>game replaces some english vocab with the japanese one step by step so you get used to it
>next game starts with kanji and adds more grammar to it
>if the game teaches you video game vocabulary like dunno 化け物 you can soon use it for other games as well
At least in my head that sounds awesome and easy to do.
I mean imagine playing a trilogy of jap learning games and then being able to play easy JRPGs like DQ or some shit.
would work if you're young, the brain is just a sponge that absorbs everything in the early years of its life
the older you are the harder it is to learn a language because the brain stops making new connections like it did when you were young
>try duolingo just because
>>der Frau
>uninstall
If I wanna make a game what are the top 2 languages (excluding English) you should localize to? Or in other words who buys the most games
I know there are a lot of chinamen and poos but they don't buy games
Spanish? A large portion of the world speaks it but I don't think they pay for their games
And Italian because I think it sounds funny.
based off nothing but flipping through the store pages of my installed library, french and german are the most common two i see
I've been playing Duolingo's Mandarin and I think it's been a good introduction. I started only knowing Nihao=hello.
The forum has also been good to read how modern usage is changing and what vocabulary is used now.
heres some extra material you'll want
Simplified Chinese/Mandarin Learning Resources:
Anki SRS Flashcard Software: https://apps.ankiweb.net/
HSK 1-6 2012 Vocab Anki Deck: https://drive.google.com/file/d/123pXHfElVObijk_6YUwmzMtaqAb9kWmM/view
"Spoonfed" Chinese Sentences and Audio Anki Deck: https://mega.nz/file/xYY1TAYD#ASxyjMh32yx93gCZnYIQWYh9pf-FoNCZbks_Fadno18
Integrated (Simplified) Chinese Volume 1 Part 1 Audio and Video: https://mllab.sfsu.edu/content/integrated-chinese-level-1-part-1-textkbook
Integrated (Simplified) Chinese Level 1 Part 1 Textbook: https://www.pdfdrive.com/integrated-chinese-simplified-characters-textbook-level-1-part-1-3rd-edition-d177946945.html
Been looking for an alternative for learning Italian, either English->Italian or German->Italian, the latter because I noticed they have a surprising amount of things in common that makes "bridging" the two languages surprisingly easy
Duolingo feels too grindy and artificial
Duolingo is a good way to begin, but there are far superior apps such as Busuu.
Duolingo went from garbage to utter steaming pile of dogshit when they introduced the hearts system. Made 4 mistakes? Oops, see you tomorrow, moron!
I'm gonna start learning French in the fall and have been stocking up on roms for old games that have french translations. I recommend this for an excuse to revisit old games.
in the case of duolingo it is detrimental.
You probably shouldnt be learning a language using another language.