this + it exposes people to the game who never had any intention of playing it otherwise.
Anti-piracy people tend to make the backbone of their claims based on blatant consumerism and questionable "morality" rather than backed data, so I wouldn't take them seriously.
It's harmful to quality games as a whole, since normalgays buy garbage and thus devs follow the money and make garbage games.
If you wonder why games mysteriously started getting shit when piracy became more and more widespread, then you're moronic because it's obvious. It led to the downfall of gaming.
Not really. We're talking about a luxury here, a video game, not food. You're not morally entitled to take it for free if you can't afford it. You can just do without.
I don't think pirates generally intended to buy the game in the first place or it's too expensive (kids, students, Brazilians). I think your average person will buy a game if they want it.
Piracy is practically dead on PlayStation and absolutely dead on Xbox.
We were ridiculously lucky to get a god mode exploit early on the Switch, you better believe security is top priority for the next system
>Piracy is practically dead on PlayStation and absolutely dead on Xbox.
Is dead because there is no reason to do so, just play on PC. That's what's different with the Switch. All system are theorically insecure and can be broken with enough autism
I can attest for that, I live in a shithole that was playing PS3 games way into the PS4 life cycle because you could hack it and get games for free or pay someone to download them for you if you had bad connection.
You can hack all generations of the switch, some are harder than others but you can still do it, and despite that it's not very popular here, but PC gaming is
For most cases, no, but I believe there could be at least an argument (with no definitive answer) to some cases, like the PSP. Piracy helped boost the console sales, but you have to wonder if the games would have sold better without it.
No. If it ever was the PAL region would have still got games after the NTSC muslim brethren had declared the women to be too scantily clad and that it wont sell since you cant shoot anyone
Nobody likes saying because instinctively someone getting something for free means they won't buy it. But while piracy is very accessible, it doesn't seem to deter people from buying. They keep selling collections of easily available roms like the Mega Man Collections, Sonic Collections, and they sell millions. gamers are bootlicker consumers and love to support their corporate overlords.
no not really but you always get homosexuals who act like vegans and have to fricking yell to the world that they pirate games just to impress morons and eventually game devs think everyone is pirating their games
no because a pirate for good or for worse will talk about your product, sometimes not, at the very least leave some sort of data that a pirate was there to pirate said product
and when they talk about it they are free marketing a product alerting potential buyers, they didn't pay but they're essentialy doing free work for the company responsible of the product(by turning into shills), it's mutualism, company and pirate are benefiting
it's not that bad i don't understand why companies don't get this
totk was the reason i got into switch emulating so quickly and i would have never played it otherwise
i also played every other nintendo release this year the same way, which i haven't done since the gamecube era
Because when you see discussion on a game the pirates are talking about the game just like everyone else and not about irrelevant things like the fact they pirated it. You would only see that fact mentioned when the thread is actually about piracy.
I have to pirate my games because of how they don't make them available on modern platforms, or have idiotic restrictions on them. I'm still happy to pay for the games, but there's no reason why these products should be treated as rentals or services.
>wanna play SMRPG >bought it on the virtual console years ago >doesn't transfer to the switch >have to pay a constant online fee to rent it, or pay 60 dollars for a remake I may or may not like >just pirate the original, or at least rip the rom from my WiiU
Understand that downloading a file is not piracy, but providing people the file is piracy (or more technically, it's copyright infringement), and it is in direct competition with the original creators.
Policeman is harming game sales by mentioning you, too, can just download the game from a piracy website. Things were better for everyone involved when downloading stuff for free and filesharing was part of a cool kid's club.
Stuart Campbell (an actual good games writer) wrote some excellent pieces about why piracy being harmful is a load of shit, and he did that years ago and it all still holds true.
No. Because it’s inconvenient to the average consumer.
this + it exposes people to the game who never had any intention of playing it otherwise.
Anti-piracy people tend to make the backbone of their claims based on blatant consumerism and questionable "morality" rather than backed data, so I wouldn't take them seriously.
True. The average person does not want to learn something new if the way things are right now are comvenient for them.
It's harmful to quality games as a whole, since normalgays buy garbage and thus devs follow the money and make garbage games.
If you wonder why games mysteriously started getting shit when piracy became more and more widespread, then you're moronic because it's obvious. It led to the downfall of gaming.
Me don't care
Of course you don't. You're poor and would rather play shit for free. Well enjoy the stream of free shit
Piracy has been a thing since games went out of arcades, actually even before then that with bootleg machines
Go play your goyslop for 70 usd
Piracy has been widespread for as long as games have been around. The "don't copy that floppy" campaign wouldn't have existed otherwise.
An EU study found that it doesn't.
no
I mean the guy is right, but he's clearly not israeli which is why his marketing plan worked.
>you either can't afford it or you don't have access to it
I have both and still pirate lol
it's not about afford
it's about worth
i dont think theres a definite answer. im sure its destroyed some games and helped others.
didnt piracy destroy the dreamcast?
Sega destroyed the Dreamcast. PS1, PS2 and DS were piracy kings yet they were successful as frick.
>You don't have a way to purchase then you don't have a way to play
What an absolutely fricked philosophy lmao
Not really. We're talking about a luxury here, a video game, not food. You're not morally entitled to take it for free if you can't afford it. You can just do without.
I don't think pirates generally intended to buy the game in the first place or it's too expensive (kids, students, Brazilians). I think your average person will buy a game if they want it.
>this entire time it was HEAVY'S voice and not HEAVY voice
is this what they call the magnela effect??
Piracy is practically dead on PlayStation and absolutely dead on Xbox.
We were ridiculously lucky to get a god mode exploit early on the Switch, you better believe security is top priority for the next system
>Piracy is practically dead on PlayStation and absolutely dead on Xbox.
Is dead because there is no reason to do so, just play on PC. That's what's different with the Switch. All system are theorically insecure and can be broken with enough autism
I can attest for that, I live in a shithole that was playing PS3 games way into the PS4 life cycle because you could hack it and get games for free or pay someone to download them for you if you had bad connection.
You can hack all generations of the switch, some are harder than others but you can still do it, and despite that it's not very popular here, but PC gaming is
Piracy has been huge on every Nintendo console since the DS. If they were going to make that a priority then they would've done it by now.
>you better believe security is top priority for the next system
yeah they said the same thing about the 3DS
For most cases, no, but I believe there could be at least an argument (with no definitive answer) to some cases, like the PSP. Piracy helped boost the console sales, but you have to wonder if the games would have sold better without it.
I constantly pirate and I also constantly buy games. Who gives a frick.
I buy a game if it's worth the asking price, and I pirate otherwise.
How else am I suppose to play as Ayane when they delisted her?
No. If it ever was the PAL region would have still got games after the NTSC muslim brethren had declared the women to be too scantily clad and that it wont sell since you cant shoot anyone
no
but if the developer gets pissed about it, it makes pirating way more satisfying
Feminism, ESG and censorship is more harmful to sales.
I despise poor people and think pirates are homosexuals
I love poor people and think pirates are straight
Nobody likes saying because instinctively someone getting something for free means they won't buy it. But while piracy is very accessible, it doesn't seem to deter people from buying. They keep selling collections of easily available roms like the Mega Man Collections, Sonic Collections, and they sell millions. gamers are bootlicker consumers and love to support their corporate overlords.
no not really but you always get homosexuals who act like vegans and have to fricking yell to the world that they pirate games just to impress morons and eventually game devs think everyone is pirating their games
Aren't most pirated games old games that companies barely sell anymore?
no because a pirate for good or for worse will talk about your product, sometimes not, at the very least leave some sort of data that a pirate was there to pirate said product
and when they talk about it they are free marketing a product alerting potential buyers, they didn't pay but they're essentialy doing free work for the company responsible of the product(by turning into shills), it's mutualism, company and pirate are benefiting
it's not that bad i don't understand why companies don't get this
The TOTK threads were full of excitement about the game and probably boosted sales.
totk was the reason i got into switch emulating so quickly and i would have never played it otherwise
i also played every other nintendo release this year the same way, which i haven't done since the gamecube era
I've never seen that ever. All pirates do is boast about how superior they are for pirating or shitting on games they cant.
Because when you see discussion on a game the pirates are talking about the game just like everyone else and not about irrelevant things like the fact they pirated it. You would only see that fact mentioned when the thread is actually about piracy.
I have to pirate my games because of how they don't make them available on modern platforms, or have idiotic restrictions on them. I'm still happy to pay for the games, but there's no reason why these products should be treated as rentals or services.
>wanna play SMRPG
>bought it on the virtual console years ago
>doesn't transfer to the switch
>have to pay a constant online fee to rent it, or pay 60 dollars for a remake I may or may not like
>just pirate the original, or at least rip the rom from my WiiU
You got your money, what more do you want?
I don't care I will pirate regardless
Do you also drive over the speed limit cause you don't give a damn about the cops? Are you a Black person?
almost everyone drives over the speed limit if you don't you are the odd one out
Understand that downloading a file is not piracy, but providing people the file is piracy (or more technically, it's copyright infringement), and it is in direct competition with the original creators.
Policeman is harming game sales by mentioning you, too, can just download the game from a piracy website. Things were better for everyone involved when downloading stuff for free and filesharing was part of a cool kid's club.
>buying and refunding is worst than piracy
>reselling is worst than piracy
>nobody talks about it
This picture is probably what I think about the most when seeing "I kneel"
There is no other way to describe this. I kneel
Someone post Edmunds argument post on piracy and /thread it
I'll buy AAs sometimes when they're on sale but frick AAAs.
Pirating games is not cool, it's just pathetic and not something any intelligent person who is smart enough to make a living would brag about doing.
This image always pops into my head whenever I see someone online openly talking about pirating games.
No.
Stuart Campbell (an actual good games writer) wrote some excellent pieces about why piracy being harmful is a load of shit, and he did that years ago and it all still holds true.
Sony has done more damage to Senran Kagura than piracy ever did.
harmful only to small studios with games that don't sell, especially porn games that only sell a couple thousand copies.
Potential customers, so yes if you pirate it affects sales.
In theory. In practice actual buyers will buy and any genuine loss is offset by the pirate then purchase crowd.