Is this the melee of mario RPGs? Overrated as frick by a very vocal and belligerent fanbase?
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Is this the melee of mario RPGs? Overrated as frick by a very vocal and belligerent fanbase?
Is this the melee of mario RPGs? Overrated as frick by a very vocal and belligerent fanbase?
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no it's not
Sticker Star was better
Overrated?
No, that'd be Super Paper Mario
Dimentio saved that game and Mimi was kinda cool too. As for Thousand Year Door, it's just full of creative little details that make the whole experience special.
I met a guy at a con that dressed up as Dimentio, talked in a weird voice, had a Dimentio youtube channel, and handed me a Dimentio business card for his channel. He was an enormous homosexual, but he was a based enormous homosexual.
>He was an enormous homosexual
So are you for going to cons
80% of the fandom doesn't like SPM
Melee is hated by 80% of the fandom too. It's a "it's really good, we promise" type of fandom that appears more prevalent than they actually are.
80% of the fanbase would be based if that were true
This, Super Paper Mario is super overrated.
Don't get me wrong the story/writing is great (Definitely way more creative than TTYD) and that's what most people remember, but the gameplay of Super Paper Mario takes a big nosedive near the end and starts getting really tedious/boring. It baffles me how I usually see people complaining about Thousand Year Door's backtracking segment but then fail to completely remember garbage like the OverThere where not only 50% of the level is backtracking if you know exactly what to do and can make up a majority of the section if you don't know what to do.
I'd say that Super Paper Mario is a very mediocre game if you average out the writing/story/creativity with the gameplay/level design, but people have forgotten the latter half of that at this point for some reason. I'd chalk it up to trauma.
>but the gameplay of Super Paper Mario takes a big nosedive near the end
It's bad from the start. They made a terrible platformer with a horrible feel, when they easily could've requested advice or aid from the more experienced platformer developers at Nintendo. The 3D mechanic misguided too and boiled down to "press this button to check if there's anything invisible on every screen."
I wouldn't say Super Paper Mario's gameplay is bad at the start, more like just not very interesting and a little plain.
The thing is that SPM is a game that's carried a lot by not just its narrative but also the interesting contexts it puts you in. For example Mimi's mansion doesn't have good or interesting gameplay if you really boil the game down to what you have to do, but the context is entertaining and interesting enough that you feel much more compelled to continue going through gameplay. It's fun because you have a good reason to do the gameplay, not because the gameplay itself is inherently complicated.
In a way, that an inversion of modern Mario, with more polished gameplay but it's lost touch with fun theming. Now all the interesting designs and settings are kept separate from the player's goals.
Both are bad. You need good gameplay and good theming to make a good game.
SPM is the Brawl of Mario RPGs.
It's legitimately a good game in it's own right but hardcore fans of previous titles hate it for being too different.
Just wait until some TTYD gay makes a mod that's basically SPM but with TTYD combat.
Holy frick I'm jacking off
>Just wait until some TTYD gay makes a mod that's basically SPM but with TTYD combat
I'd pay money for that.
>Brawl
>legitimately good
I'm not even a compgay and this is still bullshit
People don't hate it because "it's different", they hate it because it's fricking shit.
>tripping
>half the cast have un-escapable grab infinites
>Meta Knight
>everything is slow and floaty
>edgeguarding pretty much doesn't exist
>no more ledge trumping
>no combos because of the floatiness, everything is just random reads and stray hits
>removed Mewtwo for no reason
>everyone jerks off Subspace Emissary but its gameplay is fricking boring as hell, most of it is just running through hallways and fighting bland generic enemies
>People don't hate it because "it's different", they hate it because it's fricking shit.
in that regard SPM is exactly like brawl
Yes. The original PM is superior. This and the later games felt like autistic fan fiction OC garbage with pathetic attempts at being "edgy" and wacky. Also the gameplay felt nore like slog and ut didn't have anybof the charm or memorable locations like the original
Cope. The only reason you think "edgy" is bad is because the mainstream media and assblasted journos have gaslit you into thinking that way. "Edgy" is a good thing.
No. I think it's "edgy" because they added things in it that you wouldn't nornally see in a mario games. Like innocent toads getting killed. A murder scene with blood stains, a noose used for hangings etc.
that would be the original paper mario which is much jankier
Yep. It's still fine but frick me it's not a 10/10, people need to learn not to be nostalgic for shit, it's a poison. Half this game is backtracking
Still the best mario rpg though, so it isn't melee.
64 is better on the whole but if you can tolerate the backtracking i could see TTYD winning out, it's very soulful but 64 doesn't waste your time as much
That’s only a small section of the game. The sewers sections are short and have oaths that opened up the more powers and partners you recruited so it’s fun to go through them multiple times. It helps that the enemies there are easy to avoid.
I definitely disagree, 64 still has a good amount of back tracking not as much as TTYD but it's there in spades. But then pretty much every else is improved in TTYD. I don't even think most players notice the back tracking to the degree that Ganker makes it out especially on a first playthough. But I think the weird hate brigade for TTYD is one of the strangest things adopted by this board.
the worst parts of TTYD are the glitz pit, the chapter 4 midway point, and the entire slog before chapter 7, the worst part of mario 64 is either shy guy's toybox or flower fields
The glitz pit minor leagues are boring as hell but the major leagues are kino. Really, TTYD's greatest asset is how good the combat is and giving you an excuse to do a lot of it is a good thing.
>can redo the glitz pit once the chapter is over
>all of the enemies are exactly the same with no stat increases at all
lame
Pretty sure it's just there for autists to complete their tattle log.
the problem is you're just stuck in a locker room for almost the entire chapter beating up enemies until the game decides it's time for the story to continue. like i get it, you're just some dude who's rising through the ranks to beat the champ's ass and there's no real room for doing much else most of the time but frick man
The locker is boring but the rotating cast saves it. I think the chapter has the most amount of unique npcs you could talk to. The map is small but still has exploration elements between matches so it’s enjoyable overall
GHOST BLOWJOOOOOOB!!!
>literally a circle with a face on it
you're jerking off to an emoji with eyelashes
Yeah, got a problem with that?
Melee has a higher skill ceiling than [INSERT OTHER SMASH BROS GAME]
I just replayed ttyd a week ago and I don't get the backtracking complaint. The only backtracking I remember was with finding general white and it's not even that bad, plus you open up pipes to all the places he was at so it's much faster.
The only other one was twilight town going back and forth through the forest. And again that's not even that bad
you go through the sewers like a billion times for supplies and sidequests though, it gets pretty tedious even with first strike badges
Explain to me what you do in Boggly Woods. What exactly is the intended path for that chapter?
As much as I love the game, it has a backtracking problem. The best thing they could've done was make traversing rooms you've already explored more enjoyable by giving mario better movement, and making executing puzzle elements faster so it isn't so tedious to redo puzzles you've already solved. The stupid bubble room in the great tree and the moving platforms in the rogueport underground are the worst of this.
The game would've been better if it was also a proper platformer, even if that is a big ask.
>The game would've been better if it was also a proper platformer
Are you absolutely sure about that?
A run button would've gone a long way
but the game has a run button you just have to unlock it first
That game also would've been better if it was a proper platformer. It even would've been better if it had the platforming physics of TTYD.
>Is this the melee of mario RPGs?
The pinnacle of the series? Yes in that sense, but it doesn't cause increasing anal pain in moronic casuals so it can't reach the highs of Melee.
I want to have sex with goombella
It's a good game, worth playing. But it's devotees would have you believe that it's the greatest thing ever, which is too much.
It would be the melee of Mario RPGs if there were another few Paper Mario RPGs after it and the fanbase felt the same.
It's greater than the sum of its parts, and should have had it's ideas IMPROVED upon rather than thrown away in favor of gimmicks. Also Vivian is a troony which is unfortunate.
The japanese conception of a troony is very different from the western one because japan has a long history of crossdressing. Vivian is a "girl" but he isn't in denial of his own biology or in need of constant affirmation like western trannies are. In short, Vivian would like it if you called him a girl, but won't fight you over it, and won't cut off his dick. All the hot parts of a troony with less of the crazy.
>All the hot parts of a troony
gay
Vivian's wiener would be cute.
🙁
i recently beat it too; i got the pink yoshi
called him mr pink
>yoshi hatches
>he's green
>looks like his name starts with R
>came from the hot dog stand
I named mine Relish.
Paper Mario as a whole is a shitheap that's done nothing but drag down everything around it.
If it weren't for Sticker Star, AlphaDream wouldn't have been coerced by Tanabe's insistence into making a mediocre title like Paper Jam, which in turn played a key part in making them go bankrupt.
If Tanabe didn't frick up PM, I bet it would have actually been good and sold well.
>nu-PMgay still seething years later
Let me guess, you've mentioned "eric" a thousand times today and yesterday so far, haven't you?
Quite the opposite actually
3 years later and classic gays still seethe about Origami King, only proving how strong it is as an actual game.
But really it doesn't matter, I love em both, I'm the one sitting here laughing at being able to enjoy both and look forward to the future
I don’t think I’ve seen anyone praise origami like outside of the cope that some of the copy pasted assets had a character arc this time around. Most everyone agrees that the “puzzle” aspect of the combat is tedious, repetitive and wears out its welcome by the time you leave the castle
That goes for many GameCube games.
Flavio.
>follows you all the way to the credits sequence
what did nintendo mean by this
I actually think Fawful and Dimentio gays, the "Gay Clown Lovers" are worse, they probably grew up to like Undertale, Hazbin Hotel and Heluva boss
Every Gamecube game is overrated, I don't know why that system in particular attracted even more extreme autists than Nintendo usually does.
Not all TTYD gays are obnoxious buttholes, but obnoxious buttholes are TTYD gays.
>daily seethe at heckin TTYDchuds for not liking modern slop thread
Nobody mentioned TOK but that being said most of its review bombs on metacritic are from obvious TTYD homosexuals
ah, is this another episode of "zoomer regurgitates the same disingenuous and reductive criticisms from their favorite youtubers"?
Who gives a shit? Paper Mario 64 will always be the best Paper Mario game. Not TTYD and certainly not Super Paper Mario.
Going for "TTYD fans" rather than "old PM fans" is an easy way to out yourself as a fencesitting secondary or zoomer. If not both.
Anyway, I like SPM but even then think its unblievably overrated and its fanbase tries hilariously hard to ignore the gameplay issues that go beyond just being different.
so while we're all here, is there any sign of pm64 getting a pc port yet or are we going to have to wait another decade until anything cool happens?
no but you're the melee of autistic shitposters
I am biased towards 64 and 100%'d it again before starting my TTYD playthrough. Haven't finished it yet. It's got a cool mouse, I guess.
same, even though TTYD was phenomenal when i first played it, i find PM64 way more enjoyable when replaying it
>is x the melee of y?
By far the worst twitter meme. Frick you
I have no idea how the 90 fight gauntlet made it into this game shit is so boring and tedious
Original on 64 is significantly better + more soul
All of the Gamecube games are like that.
If you want someone to post sensual creatures, just ask nicely.
Yeah, it's the Melee of mario RPGs in that it's a genuinely good game that makes Ganker seethe to this very day because they can't stand the idea of people having fun and enjoying themselves.
This gif is adorable. Also I know that's the hyena cropped to look like a wiener.
It's not Haida because he's way taller, I think it's whats-his-face the boss' henchman
Insert any title on the GameCube and it's basically accurate. Melee, Double Dash, Thousand Year Door.
TTYD is superior cause you play as Bowser and Bowser was always based
>wow gamecube games are the gamecube games of a series
very insightful
>"overrated"
>AKA "good game but I hate it because I'm contrarian"