because midwits really think that way. same reason whenever middle easterners bomb each other its somehow europe's responsibility to house so many refugees it causes a demographic overhaul
The wealth of Vegas attracts a lot of people and that created a lot of slums around the strip. That's not really his fault but he did inadvertently cause it. I guess he could do something about it, but he doesn't give a shit.
>it's not the fault of the casino magnate that there's a massive population of homeless gambling and drug addicts filling the area directly outside of his property
Are you moronic or something?
Clearly they aren't considering how successful the strip is. He has no reason to give a shit beyond a potential expansion of the strip for more casinos.
Clearly they are considering their only income is robbing and scamming the people on their way to the casino
7 months ago
Anonymous
And yet it sees business regardless?
7 months ago
Anonymous
A broken clock still shows the time
7 months ago
Anonymous
Bad analogy considering how much money the strip is obviously making.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Good analogy considering the strip is a shithole that isn't making enough money to fund a standing army to ward off the NCR/Legion.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>the strip is a shithole that isn't making enough money to fund a standing army
moron, absolute fricking moron
Did you even play the game?
To quote Yes Man: >Did you know that Mr. House spent 812,545 caps hiring salvage teams to find the Platinum Chip- just in the last year alone? {delighted}Of course you didn't!
He needs his Securitrons to be a standing army and they were stored in Fortification Hill, Caesar's Fort.
7 months ago
Anonymous
If the chips alone were enough he wouldn't need the securitrons
7 months ago
Anonymous
The caps are paying for an army, a securitron army loaded with military firepower.
Mr. House doesn't want to rely on an entire army of human variables when he can run an entire army of cold calculating robots that follow his every command.
He already knows how much of a gamble
it is relying on a person because of Benny and now Courier 6.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Then maybe people should make a living off of stopping the other people from doing that? The market always finds a way.
do you think a good karma courier would help rebuild freeside with the help of the kings and house? remember that house can spare the kings if you make them go to war against the ncr
The Courier could do whatever the frick you want in your headcanon after the game ends. Personally, I like the idea of a good karma 10 Intelligence Courier using the technology from the Big MT to build up Freeside and the surrounding areas that have fallen through the cracks while House focuses on politicking and administration
Because people are idiots. The problem in Freeside is explicitly all the NCR citizens who show up, go broke and then get stuck outside the Strip.
NCR doesn't do anything about their own people getting stuck in foreign lands en masse. The closest thing to help is someone in the army who had to beg for supplies to give out to their own people. Their own Ambassador doesn't seem to be doing shit.
>The problem in Freeside is explicitly all the NCR citizens who show up
Wow you couldn't be more wrong >NCR doesn't do anything about their own people getting stuck in foreign lands en masse
Also wrong
Go do the kings questline again, if you ever did it
>IM THE RULER OF THE LAND >WELL POOR PEOPLE MAKING SLUMS AND SHITTING EVERYTHING AROUND WHILE CAUSING CRIME ISNT GOVERMNMENT PROBLEM
Wow, typical obsidian fan
I sure once Mr. House gets his army of Securitrons and makes the Legion/NCR frick off, he'd be able and willing to extend their policing to Freeside. Him teaming up with the King if they shit on NCR gays also would be great for Freeside.
Why? He's not forcing people to go to his casinos and there's always a real chance of winning big.
If they didn't want to lose everything, they shouldn't have bet everything.
>Selling drugs
House? Selling drugs?
WTF are you talking about!? > But there is chems and alcohol inside the casinos!
Because the Casinos themselves are not run by Mr.House. The Three Families have complete control over their casinos, as long as they fulfill the contract they signed with House.
>if he cant even make freeside livable
he probably could but why the frick would he care about freeside, its not generating any profit in comparison to the strip
People are stupid and assume that him having money and technology means he wants to waste it on the people outside the strip. He's not a government, he's not a monarch, he's just a business man with big plans.
3 presents a multifaceted narrative that explores the human condition, the consequences of choice, & the struggle for survival. At its core, the story delves into themes of morality, hope, & the impact of past actions on the present & future.
One of the most compelling elements of Fallout 3's story & gameplay intertwined is the exploration of the wasteland & the encounters with diverse factions & characters. Each faction represents a distinct ideology, whether it's the altruistic Brotherhood of Steel, the morally ambiguous Enclave, or the anarchic Raiders. These groups mirror real-world struggles for power, resources, & differing philosophies on how society should be rebuilt after the apocalypse.
The search for the protagonist's father, serves as a narrative catalyst, propelling the player through various quests & encounters while unveiling the mysteries surrounding their family & the Vault's experiments. This quest intertwines personal motives with larger themes of sacrifice & responsibility,
Players face moral decisions, emphasizing between right & wrong. Choices made impact not only the immediate outcome but also shape the wasteland's & underscores the moral dilemmas survivors face in a world where resources are scarce, & survival often demands ethically questionable actions.
The presence of the G.E.C.K. acts as a symbol of hope amidst desolation. It represents potential for rebirth & rebuilding, highlighting humanity's resilience & the possibility of redemption.
It's about exploring the human psyche in the face of adversity. It challenges players to consider the repercussions of their actions & prompting introspection about their own values & beliefs. The narrative depth lies in its ability to weave personal quests with larger thematic elements, creating a rich, thought-provoking experience that resonates beyond the confines of the game.
Meanwhile New Vegas themes/story are "You've been shot in the head oh & BTW Capitalism/Facism is LE BAD"
Sawyer is a midwit moron, and he didn't write House (or anything else in the game, for that matter)
House offered the tribals squatting in Vegas and engaging in cannibalism, robbery, murder and rape a chance at a better life. The ones that were smart enough to take him up on this chance became the 4 houses, the rest voluntarily left the strip and started squatting in the ruins on the outskirts of Vegas, so they could continue engaging in cannibalism, robbery, murder and rape. If you think House is in any way responsible for the "people" of freeside or their situation, you're a moron.
>durr, why doesn't House just wipe them out
He will, if you complete his questline and give him the securitron army necessary to do it.
>Creates den of sin where people waste money on gambling, drugs and prostitution >All the money from casinos goes to find a chip that will upgrade his army of killbots >But helping him is the best for future of humanity because?
>people cry about government overreach and the desire for independence in the case of the NCR >get it in Freeside, House lets you do what you want and solve your own problems >"DADDY GOVERNMENT SAVE ME AND FIX THE BAD PROBLEMS!!!!"
homosexuals
How would anyone possibly figure that out from the ground floor?
The average person wouldn't be able to get in anyways, they don't have MC superpowers
Though, it is a smart move to maintain a guise of secrecy because showing any vulnerability is a huge problem
I wonder what Vegas would've been like in Van Buren, I know you only get to visit Hoover Dam but I imagine the inhabitants from there would've mentioned something about it
House both creates incentive & conditions for the impoverished and criminal elements of Freeside while ALSO being somewhat possessive of Freeside without taking full responsibility. House might tell them they aren't his problem but he'll enact retribution on its inhabitants for being "disloyal". He's basically America and South America where they'll pretend they're a sovereign nation and most their problems don't stem from interference from America who'll then take direct violent action when they get too chummy with another State or philosophy America doesn't like.
>House both creates incentive & conditions for the impoverished and criminal elements of Freeside
See:
Sawyer is a midwit moron, and he didn't write House (or anything else in the game, for that matter)
House offered the tribals squatting in Vegas and engaging in cannibalism, robbery, murder and rape a chance at a better life. The ones that were smart enough to take him up on this chance became the 4 houses, the rest voluntarily left the strip and started squatting in the ruins on the outskirts of Vegas, so they could continue engaging in cannibalism, robbery, murder and rape. If you think House is in any way responsible for the "people" of freeside or their situation, you're a moron.
>durr, why doesn't House just wipe them out
He will, if you complete his questline and give him the securitron army necessary to do it.
The strip was a complete shithole before House awakened. When he did, he gave them the chance to join him in building something great. The ones that refused left voluntarily so they could continue living live animals. You cannot refute this, and are a moron.
That post shows how fricking twofaced House's deal was though. Letting Freeside be a shithole is the more convenient option at the moment but the truth of the matter is House would've rather said "You have the option to work for me, but in 15 minutes my securitrons will open fire on anyone in New Vegas without a contract with me. I suggest you vacate the premises."
>durr why doesn't House just wipe them out
He doesn't have the resources to control the strip and freeside. If you give him his securitron army, he does exactly what you're whining about. Woah, it's almost like you're an obnoxious communist troony completely blinded by your midwit IQ and inability to comprehend any political philosophy more complex than "rich peepo bad because rich peepo not give money to poor peepo. me stub toe when wake up, that rich peepo fault", and so you're reduced to coping and seething endlessly. Freeside is shit, because the "people" of freeside are shit.
That's my point, you can't play "Freeside chose to be savages" when it ultimately boils down to House saying "join me, frick off, or die" with frick off being tantamount to death anyways in the fricking Post-Apocalyptic desert.
>you can't play "Freeside chose to be savages"
You absolutely can, because they were doing the exact same fricking thing before House woke up. When House did wake up, he said "instead of raping, stealing and murdering and cannibalizing innocent people, how about we revive Vegas and offer services that will give travelers a positive experience they enjoy instead? They give us their money willingly, and will advertise our services to others, which will make us fabulously rich.", to which the "people" that would choose to inhabit freeside answered "no, i like rape, murder, theft and cannibalism" and left to go squat in ruins. Then they see House and the tribes who weren't moron get fabulously rich, and start b***hing and moaning about the "injustice" and "cruelty" of House.
given what we're shown in the game I just flatly can't believe there are enough people travelling to new vegas to make it sustainable. The casinos are barren, the strip is empty, there's hardly anyone around and other than two wealthy ranchers everyone else is broke. There is no infrastructure to facilitate large numbers of travellers, hell the NCR outpost still has fricking car wrecks strewn all over the road, and the route itself is incredibly dangerous. We're told that new vegas is a beacon drawing everyone towards it but we just don't see anything that would reinforce that. >well of course, the engine can't handle so many NPC's at once or the scale needed to reflect that
then maybe tell a story that your engine can actually back up?
>then maybe tell a story that your engine can actually back up?
Well that just gives you Fallout 3, where five people live in sheet metal shacks and there's nothing but metro tunnels with feral ghouls in them.
>Why should a ruler enforce laws or provide basic needs like clean water and housing?
You are literally more moronic than a feudal serf from 2000BC. Contemplate that.
He is the ruler. He is in charge. If someone else like the NCR arrives and tries to improve the area by enforcing basic laws, he will kill them with his securitrons. At that point yes you assume responsibility for the shithole. Imbecile.
if you let homeless junkies into your house and they turn it into a crack den then it's your fault yeah
why would i blame the junkies? you let it happen
>be rich through whatever means >they deal drugs, guns, etc. to each other and kill each other for petty reasons >they have no knowledge nor skills beyond doing this, their culture is shit >decide to help them by giving them money, education and jobs >they ignore that and just continue selling drugs and killing each other (but now with more money) >they are incapable of forming a government or sustainable police force, so give them that as well >these forces get attacked by drug and weapons dealers, gangs, etc. >now on the hook to support these people forever because if you cut them off they'll just try to storm your estate >you will have to support them forever because they are incapable of being educated or bettering themselves >none of this has to do with House nor New Vegas, it's actually the story of Africa
because midwits really think that way. same reason whenever middle easterners bomb each other its somehow europe's responsibility to house so many refugees it causes a demographic overhaul
The wealth of Vegas attracts a lot of people and that created a lot of slums around the strip. That's not really his fault but he did inadvertently cause it. I guess he could do something about it, but he doesn't give a shit.
>it's not the fault of the casino magnate that there's a massive population of homeless gambling and drug addicts filling the area directly outside of his property
Are you moronic or something?
Not his property, not his problem.
they're bad for business
Clearly they aren't considering how successful the strip is. He has no reason to give a shit beyond a potential expansion of the strip for more casinos.
Clearly they are considering their only income is robbing and scamming the people on their way to the casino
And yet it sees business regardless?
A broken clock still shows the time
Bad analogy considering how much money the strip is obviously making.
Good analogy considering the strip is a shithole that isn't making enough money to fund a standing army to ward off the NCR/Legion.
>the strip is a shithole that isn't making enough money to fund a standing army
moron, absolute fricking moron
Did you even play the game?
To quote Yes Man:
>Did you know that Mr. House spent 812,545 caps hiring salvage teams to find the Platinum Chip- just in the last year alone? {delighted}Of course you didn't!
He needs his Securitrons to be a standing army and they were stored in Fortification Hill, Caesar's Fort.
If the chips alone were enough he wouldn't need the securitrons
The caps are paying for an army, a securitron army loaded with military firepower.
Mr. House doesn't want to rely on an entire army of human variables when he can run an entire army of cold calculating robots that follow his every command.
He already knows how much of a gamble
it is relying on a person because of Benny and now Courier 6.
Then maybe people should make a living off of stopping the other people from doing that? The market always finds a way.
Casinos are for gamblers,not mercs
You don't have to gamble to be a bodyguard.
do you think a good karma courier would help rebuild freeside with the help of the kings and house? remember that house can spare the kings if you make them go to war against the ncr
The Courier could do whatever the frick you want in your headcanon after the game ends. Personally, I like the idea of a good karma 10 Intelligence Courier using the technology from the Big MT to build up Freeside and the surrounding areas that have fallen through the cracks while House focuses on politicking and administration
House helps Freeside and the Kings if the Kings stay loyal to Vegas and not sell themselves to the NCR.
Because people are idiots. The problem in Freeside is explicitly all the NCR citizens who show up, go broke and then get stuck outside the Strip.
NCR doesn't do anything about their own people getting stuck in foreign lands en masse. The closest thing to help is someone in the army who had to beg for supplies to give out to their own people. Their own Ambassador doesn't seem to be doing shit.
>The problem in Freeside is explicitly all the NCR citizens who show up
Wow you couldn't be more wrong
>NCR doesn't do anything about their own people getting stuck in foreign lands en masse
Also wrong
Go do the kings questline again, if you ever did it
Getting the Kings to mow down the NCR goons is so funny.
>so quick to mouth off like a moron he couldn't even read an extra line
Yawn
>IM THE RULER OF THE LAND
>WELL POOR PEOPLE MAKING SLUMS AND SHITTING EVERYTHING AROUND WHILE CAUSING CRIME ISNT GOVERMNMENT PROBLEM
Wow, typical obsidian fan
I sure once Mr. House gets his army of Securitrons and makes the Legion/NCR frick off, he'd be able and willing to extend their policing to Freeside. Him teaming up with the King if they shit on NCR gays also would be great for Freeside.
lmao there is nothing more dishonest in the world than running a fricking casino
Why? He's not forcing people to go to his casinos and there's always a real chance of winning big.
If they didn't want to lose everything, they shouldn't have bet everything.
Selling drugs. Which- coincidentally- he also does.
>Selling drugs
House? Selling drugs?
WTF are you talking about!?
> But there is chems and alcohol inside the casinos!
Because the Casinos themselves are not run by Mr.House. The Three Families have complete control over their casinos, as long as they fulfill the contract they signed with House.
>one sells STDs
>the other sells people meat
>the last one dabbles in mediocre entertainment
The israeliteel of the Mojave amirite.
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if he cant even make freeside livable why would I want him in charge of the entire mojave?
>if he cant even make freeside livable
he probably could but why the frick would he care about freeside, its not generating any profit in comparison to the strip
>Implying centrists can build a livable society
Lol. Lmao.
you need to take on some Responsibilité anon
People are stupid and assume that him having money and technology means he wants to waste it on the people outside the strip. He's not a government, he's not a monarch, he's just a business man with big plans.
Fallout 3 > NV
3 presents a multifaceted narrative that explores the human condition, the consequences of choice, & the struggle for survival. At its core, the story delves into themes of morality, hope, & the impact of past actions on the present & future.
One of the most compelling elements of Fallout 3's story & gameplay intertwined is the exploration of the wasteland & the encounters with diverse factions & characters. Each faction represents a distinct ideology, whether it's the altruistic Brotherhood of Steel, the morally ambiguous Enclave, or the anarchic Raiders. These groups mirror real-world struggles for power, resources, & differing philosophies on how society should be rebuilt after the apocalypse.
The search for the protagonist's father, serves as a narrative catalyst, propelling the player through various quests & encounters while unveiling the mysteries surrounding their family & the Vault's experiments. This quest intertwines personal motives with larger themes of sacrifice & responsibility,
Players face moral decisions, emphasizing between right & wrong. Choices made impact not only the immediate outcome but also shape the wasteland's & underscores the moral dilemmas survivors face in a world where resources are scarce, & survival often demands ethically questionable actions.
The presence of the G.E.C.K. acts as a symbol of hope amidst desolation. It represents potential for rebirth & rebuilding, highlighting humanity's resilience & the possibility of redemption.
It's about exploring the human psyche in the face of adversity. It challenges players to consider the repercussions of their actions & prompting introspection about their own values & beliefs. The narrative depth lies in its ability to weave personal quests with larger thematic elements, creating a rich, thought-provoking experience that resonates beyond the confines of the game.
Meanwhile New Vegas themes/story are "You've been shot in the head oh & BTW Capitalism/Facism is LE BAD"
Sawyer is a midwit moron, and he didn't write House (or anything else in the game, for that matter)
House offered the tribals squatting in Vegas and engaging in cannibalism, robbery, murder and rape a chance at a better life. The ones that were smart enough to take him up on this chance became the 4 houses, the rest voluntarily left the strip and started squatting in the ruins on the outskirts of Vegas, so they could continue engaging in cannibalism, robbery, murder and rape. If you think House is in any way responsible for the "people" of freeside or their situation, you're a moron.
>durr, why doesn't House just wipe them out
He will, if you complete his questline and give him the securitron army necessary to do it.
>Sawyer is a midwit moron
the implementation of his gun autism into NV was a good thing though
>Meanwhile New Vegas themes/story are "You've been shot in the head oh & BTW Capitalism/Facism is LE BAD"
And I wouldn't want it any other way
Money stolen
why are you replying to yourself?
Holy pseud, how can you type so many words and yet say nothing of any value?
If you want to see the future of the Mojave under House, just look at Freeside.
Freeside is devoid of house
Freeside is run by liberals, not House.
Did you watch the webm?
>correct
>I just want trains to run on time
based
>Creates den of sin where people waste money on gambling, drugs and prostitution
>All the money from casinos goes to find a chip that will upgrade his army of killbots
>But helping him is the best for future of humanity because?
MVGA!!!
If House is equivalent to Trump, who in New Vegas is Sleepy Joe?
One of the White Gloves probably.
>people cry about government overreach and the desire for independence in the case of the NCR
>get it in Freeside, House lets you do what you want and solve your own problems
>"DADDY GOVERNMENT SAVE ME AND FIX THE BAD PROBLEMS!!!!"
homosexuals
>COURIER
>I KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE
>GIVE ME THE PLATINUM CHIP
>PLEASE
>YOU'RE STILL UNDER CONTRACT
>COURIER SIX
>THE CHIP
>RIGHT NOW
Fulfill your contract, butthole!
Mr.House is putting chems in the water and making the Geckos gay!
Why the lucky 38 is close to the public ? Why I can't gamble in it
He probably don't want people finding out he is actually very vulnerable if you manage to pass his securitrons?
Nobody knows he is on life support.
How would anyone possibly figure that out from the ground floor?
The average person wouldn't be able to get in anyways, they don't have MC superpowers
Though, it is a smart move to maintain a guise of secrecy because showing any vulnerability is a huge problem
>neoliberalism vs fascism vs libertarianism vs anarcho-individualism
hmm...what seems to be missing...
I wonder what Vegas would've been like in Van Buren, I know you only get to visit Hoover Dam but I imagine the inhabitants from there would've mentioned something about it
House both creates incentive & conditions for the impoverished and criminal elements of Freeside while ALSO being somewhat possessive of Freeside without taking full responsibility. House might tell them they aren't his problem but he'll enact retribution on its inhabitants for being "disloyal". He's basically America and South America where they'll pretend they're a sovereign nation and most their problems don't stem from interference from America who'll then take direct violent action when they get too chummy with another State or philosophy America doesn't like.
>House both creates incentive & conditions for the impoverished and criminal elements of Freeside
See:
The strip was a complete shithole before House awakened. When he did, he gave them the chance to join him in building something great. The ones that refused left voluntarily so they could continue living live animals. You cannot refute this, and are a moron.
That post shows how fricking twofaced House's deal was though. Letting Freeside be a shithole is the more convenient option at the moment but the truth of the matter is House would've rather said "You have the option to work for me, but in 15 minutes my securitrons will open fire on anyone in New Vegas without a contract with me. I suggest you vacate the premises."
Once again
>durr why doesn't House just wipe them out
He doesn't have the resources to control the strip and freeside. If you give him his securitron army, he does exactly what you're whining about. Woah, it's almost like you're an obnoxious communist troony completely blinded by your midwit IQ and inability to comprehend any political philosophy more complex than "rich peepo bad because rich peepo not give money to poor peepo. me stub toe when wake up, that rich peepo fault", and so you're reduced to coping and seething endlessly. Freeside is shit, because the "people" of freeside are shit.
That's my point, you can't play "Freeside chose to be savages" when it ultimately boils down to House saying "join me, frick off, or die" with frick off being tantamount to death anyways in the fricking Post-Apocalyptic desert.
>you can't play "Freeside chose to be savages"
You absolutely can, because they were doing the exact same fricking thing before House woke up. When House did wake up, he said "instead of raping, stealing and murdering and cannibalizing innocent people, how about we revive Vegas and offer services that will give travelers a positive experience they enjoy instead? They give us their money willingly, and will advertise our services to others, which will make us fabulously rich.", to which the "people" that would choose to inhabit freeside answered "no, i like rape, murder, theft and cannibalism" and left to go squat in ruins. Then they see House and the tribes who weren't moron get fabulously rich, and start b***hing and moaning about the "injustice" and "cruelty" of House.
>libertarian right
dude frick you.. get off of my property
your property? well, you must defend it first.
give me a video game example
>totally tell me what's what
given what we're shown in the game I just flatly can't believe there are enough people travelling to new vegas to make it sustainable. The casinos are barren, the strip is empty, there's hardly anyone around and other than two wealthy ranchers everyone else is broke. There is no infrastructure to facilitate large numbers of travellers, hell the NCR outpost still has fricking car wrecks strewn all over the road, and the route itself is incredibly dangerous. We're told that new vegas is a beacon drawing everyone towards it but we just don't see anything that would reinforce that.
>well of course, the engine can't handle so many NPC's at once or the scale needed to reflect that
then maybe tell a story that your engine can actually back up?
dont forget the courier emptied every casino vault in naughty nightwear
>then maybe tell a story that your engine can actually back up?
Well that just gives you Fallout 3, where five people live in sheet metal shacks and there's nothing but metro tunnels with feral ghouls in them.
>Why should a ruler enforce laws or provide basic needs like clean water and housing?
You are literally more moronic than a feudal serf from 2000BC. Contemplate that.
Somehow you have regressed that far.
>if you are rich it's now your responsibility by default to care for all poor people until you arent rich anymore
He is the ruler. He is in charge. If someone else like the NCR arrives and tries to improve the area by enforcing basic laws, he will kill them with his securitrons. At that point yes you assume responsibility for the shithole. Imbecile.
>be rich through whatever means
>they deal drugs, guns, etc. to each other and kill each other for petty reasons
>they have no knowledge nor skills beyond doing this, their culture is shit
>decide to help them by giving them money, education and jobs
>they ignore that and just continue selling drugs and killing each other (but now with more money)
>they are incapable of forming a government or sustainable police force, so give them that as well
>these forces get attacked by drug and weapons dealers, gangs, etc.
>now on the hook to support these people forever because if you cut them off they'll just try to storm your estate
>you will have to support them forever because they are incapable of being educated or bettering themselves
>none of this has to do with House nor New Vegas, it's actually the story of Africa
Don't forget, it's your responsibility even if they EXPLICITLY AND WILLINGLY REFUSE YOUR HELP
if you let homeless junkies into your house and they turn it into a crack den then it's your fault yeah
why would i blame the junkies? you let it happen
>Be rich
>Help nobody
>Nobody cares
Life is good.