They made the season passes free, they gave up on it from the shit reception it had.
I expect if it's "successful" it'll be due to very very steep discounts immediately after launch and flaunting how many units it pushes.
Also, fast track to game pass and ps+
This will be another "Avengers" game situation in my eyes. People will buy it, drop it after 10 hours, and have buyer's regret because they expected something better.
What's sad is they delayed this game for ONE YEAR and it still looks awful and a lot of people can't even tell the game looks better, so what did they spend a year "polishing" and doing? Early reviews aren't very good, so one article where a critic played for 20 hours and didn't enjoy it.
IF Gotham Knights is any indication, it will be removed about a week in.
And I doubt people would buy it either way. Reception doesn't seem too positive.
Because it's a money laundering scheme or some other corrupt shit.
DRM does not give you more sales as has been proven multiple times. Hundreds of millions of 3rd worlders aren't gonna conjure $$$ out of thin air just because you put Denuvo in your crap game.
it always felt like they are actively trying to tank this game >no review copies >DRM in always online game >battle pass >multiple currencies >captain boomerang uses fricking guns
what the frick are those morons thinking?
I didn't even play the first one, not even so much as google it or watch a gameplay video about it. Same for this game. Capeshit is so beyond fricking lame, you should genuinely go laugh at yourself in a mirror for taking it seriously or trying to monetize it. I didn'tt even watch omniman, because of how little I fricking care.
i don't think so
there was the arkham games, and the gotham game that was like arkham: mspaint edition.
now we're getting arkham: ubisoft edition
dont think there's been any suuside squad game
I could've sworn there was some suicide squad game that people made fun of on here for having the same ui we used to make memes about. Was that this game?
coolguyanonchama... thats this game.
might be confusing you because they showed this game like 2-3 years ago, but delayed it to... "improve" it.
5 months ago
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dios mios
5 months ago
Anonymous
worst UI of 2024
5 months ago
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YOUR CUM METER IS EXTREMELY LOW, START GOONING NOW
5 months ago
Anonymous
Way ahead of you
5 months ago
Anonymous
You remembered to deposit your data shards, right Ganker?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>this is what the people shit talking Elden Ring think is good UI
5 months ago
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Actually no the complaint about elden ring from devs was about it's UX. Now you might be confused and think that's just fancy word for UI but no, I had to chat with some people to learn that UX has little to do with UI design and is more about monetized gameplay loops and dopamine dumps. It's a strictly internal word that no one outside of gamedev has ever used before those tweets.
5 months ago
Anonymous
UX is the acronym for user experience and it's been definitely used in software development and marketing for many years. I'm not surprised it crossed over to game development.
5 months ago
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User experience yeah, allot of people mistake it for meaning UI but it's more stuff like "let's have daily login bonuses" or "let's have our character quip about pushing a box so the players knows they can" or "let's put yellow tape on ever interaction". You know....cancer.
5 months ago
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From a software point of view, it tries to define how a user achieves what he wants to do through the product. For example, you can have a good UI, but if you don't have the functions that the user wants or if they are poorly implemented (for example full of bugs), he will have a poor experience.
5 months ago
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Context matters though. The devs that complained about elden rings UX was about shit like "why is the golden knight attacking us, enemies should look evil in design" or "how was I supposed to know merchant kale was not hostile when he's sitting at a campfire and knights of godrick also sit at a campfire". They wanted their hands held with quips that say "oh this guy sells stuff" or (entering hostile area) messages.
5 months ago
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Well, one problem with UX is that you generally focus on the average users, not the moronic ones.
5 months ago
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>Oh frick guys I’m at 60% Batman
5 months ago
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Fire the UI Designer. He did a bad job.
5 months ago
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>He
5 months ago
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makes sense
5 months ago
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>same girl responsible for Trials Fusion's layout
The frick happened between then and now? Fusion's UI was great and thematically appropriate.
5 months ago
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Her boss told her how to design SS UI following; usual executive meddling.
5 months ago
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in a way this nu-ui is also thematically appropriate to marvelsloppers
5 months ago
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>he didn't buy enough energy crystals to tune the anti-Flash weapon
5 months ago
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where's the fingerless glove meter?
5 months ago
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>dogshit UI, possibly the worst ever produced >Gotham Knights / Avengers ‘live service will totally work this time guys’ mindset, with everything must be a grind, timed, including 3+ types of currency and crafting mechanics >that weird plot point where Poison Ivy comes back from the dead as a child and Harley heavily implies she might molest her >dogshit looking Alt Universe Joker because we absolutely need a Joker to market the game >That incredibly ugly Hollywood bald bugeyed black woman is playing Waller for no other reason than she’s famous, completely ruining the character’s original design >actual gameplay looks incredibly shallow and each character seems to use guns while instead regulating their actual powers/skills to cooldown abilities
Everytime I see this game it gets a little worse
5 months ago
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>that weird plot point where Poison Ivy comes back from the dead as a child and Harley heavily implies she might molest her
w-what
5 months ago
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5 months ago
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Immediately what I thought of
5 months ago
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>guns guns guns
I never get the point of forcing guns in super hero stuff. It often makes little sense especially if these types hold their own against alien forces using their 9MM's and shit. If they can do that, how in the hell would the military forces of the world even be having issues in the slightest? They have even more guns.
Forcing guns as basically a super power kills the entire genre and creates the Syndrome "when everyone is super..." problem by making an item anyone can use into effectively a super power on par with super speed, flight, invulnerability etc. Also if a special bullet can harm you, you aren't fricking invulnerable.
5 months ago
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Doesnt help that only Deadshot is really known for using guns. Harley is primarily associated with hammers and grabbing random shit, Captain Boomerang is self explanatory and King Shark is a seven foot tall shark man.
5 months ago
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How can Harley hurt fricking anyone? She isn't super strong so she lacks much force swinging an oversized weapon. It'd be like a toddler trying to kill someone with some massive fricking sword. It's not going to work well with his strength.
5 months ago
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>How can Harley hurt fricking anyone?
because she's a woman and the game is made by neoliberal suits
5 months ago
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I doubt your culture war shit is the reason.
5 months ago
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ok
5 months ago
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They've been really trying to make Harley into some kind of peak human athlete lately, like Batman or Nightwing when even in her older comic apperaence, she used misdirection and stealth rather than brute force. Unironically, they should've made a game like MGSV, where you can clown on your enemies undetected rather than an all-action game, if they wanted an actual canon Harley abilities.
5 months ago
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Harley being a threat to even a thug with a gun will always be asinine. She is not strong, she does not have super powers, she does not have extensive combat training.
She was originally portrayed as a nigh joke sidekick whose entire thing was being in a toxic relationship. The weirdest aspect of Harley to me is how she is pushed as some yaas queen to emulate when she is literally a sociopathic serial killer. I guess a female mass shooter would also be yaas queen.
5 months ago
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the problem is she got really popular from reasons that are problematic now. they weren't able to keep her as is because interest groups would be coming after them. but, changing her has really sort of killed her popularity, because her entire appeal was "goofy murderous bawd who's the Joker's boyfriend", and they literally took every bit of that away from her.
5 months ago
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They kept the goofy murderous bawd part. She is goofy, a serial killer, and in her show acts like a bawd.
5 months ago
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>murderous
nope, she's anti-hero now who is le heckin wholesome and only kills other bad guys >bawd
also nope, they completely removed her sex appeal over the past 5 yers >a serial killer
see above
5 months ago
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>murderous >nope
She literally executes batman in this game, m8
In the last DCAU thing I saw she decapitated a guy for no reason but to be random >bawd >nope
She flashes people in her cartoon and the image of the series poster has her riding a giant space ship wiener
5 months ago
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>She literally executes batman in this game, m8
yeah because the justice league are bad guys in it, dipshit. >In the last DCAU thing I saw she decapitated a guy for no reason but to be random
yea and I bet the guy was some innocent civilian with a wife and kids instead of a henchman or mook she was fighting.
>She flashes people in her cartoon and the image of the series poster has her riding a giant space ship wiener
safe horny
yawn
5 months ago
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>who's the Joker's boyfriend
girlfriend* even, kek
5 months ago
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what does the batman meter do
5 months ago
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I assume it is to indicate he is speaking over a radio, but there are no subtitles so i could be wrong.
5 months ago
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it makes you batty
5 months ago
Anonymous
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU LET FRICKERS LIKE THESE THINK THEY KNOW VIDEO GAMES
YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE
5 months ago
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what """""Game UX""""" sins does Elden Ring even commit? >Nor PC graphics etc
I remember some stuttering issues but that was fixed, I think >Quest design
Souls quest design is odd. I agree.
5 months ago
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>what """""Game UX""""" sins does Elden Ring even commit?
Only one. It's a game with just enough mechanical complexity that an actual manual like in the old days could have been useful. The ingame tutorials and "item descriptions" don't reveal all of the relevant details. Most of them, but not all of them. It would have been helpful for the UX if the game shipped with a real manual, even if it's just PDF in the digital versions.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want everything explained. People who complain that "Malenia cheats" are wiki-binging tryhards who want to unlock every secret so that they can minmax their gameplay and anticipate every possible enemy action instead of developing situational awareness and the ability to react to adverse circumstances.
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>Only one. It's a game with just enough mechanical complexity that an actual manual like in the old days could have been useful. The ingame tutorials and "item descriptions" don't reveal all of the relevant details. Most of them, but not all of them
Before saying good or bad, isn't that basically every Souls games? Most dont tell you shit beyond stuff like "RB is light attack and RT is heavy attack"
5 months ago
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>Before saying good or bad, isn't that basically every Souls games?
Yes but for some reason it was Elden Ring that got devs seething out of nowhere despite a decade of their games being highly succesful and praised everywhere.
5 months ago
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>but for some reason
You mean jealousy from the game's success?
5 months ago
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You know that you can have description of every stats on the status screen, like in every souls games?
5 months ago
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My card is a 1060 3gb and Elden Ring ran fine, 60 fps indoors 50 fps outdoors. I don't get the performance complains
pirates might modify the game which allows offline gaming with certain limitations for couple of stages, we can't have that obviously so denuvo was installed to hinder any changes of gamers having free fun.
Depends on how much of the game is server-side, since making a basic keep-alive/inventory+progress relay. That said, breaking the encryption is a tedious fricking affair.
NOOO I WAS JUST ABOUT TO PREORDER THIS!!!! NOW ILL HAVE TO WAIT 6 WEEKS BEFORE THE MOVIE ADAPTATION BY NETFLIX!!! MOMMY STARBUCKS NOW!!!! STANLEY CUPPIES!!!!! NOT MY HECKIN $6 BIG MACCIES!!!
That is apples and oranges. A phone home is NOTHING compared to server side content delivery, the game's functional content basically doesn't on your client until the server sends you all the spawn data and other shit. It's like the """cracked""" version of Diablo 3, that barely fricking works and is nothing like the actual game because it's all slipshod guessing on the fake servers part
they use Denuvo anti cheat most likely. I mean, online games all have some form of anti cheat otherwise they'd be unplayable. They just didn't bother with any in-house solution and went with Denuvo.
Denuvo has become a self-sustaining financial meme. Shareholders that have no fricking clue what it is they're having sold on their behalf or if it would even apply are caught in a chicken and egg loop.
>Shareholders that have no fricking clue what it is they're having sold on their behalf or if it would even apply are caught in a chicken and egg loop.
totally oblivious to software as a subscription - get locked into dropping 2000eurobux a month keeping that shit going after the first year.
Sega must have a super secret special deal, because otherwise they're getting raped in the ass by Denuvo
>Reddit
Denuvos pricing model is public due to selling it on Amazon Marketplace which exposes all pricing models. You can stick with reality straight from the company rather than a moronic redditor parsing ancient documents
Yeah, I know, I saw that on AWS - it seems incomplete. Like, that's the only package?
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>Like, that's the only package?
Yes, because they dropped the tiering system when they dropped their perpetual offering when they shifted from version 1.2.1 to 2.0. Anti-cheat is also available but this gets used by basically no one because it barely works and anyone scared about cheating is using server side progress anyway so why pay money to stop single player cheat engine shit.
5 months ago
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>Yes, because they dropped the tiering system when they dropped their perpetual offering when they shifted from version 1.2.1 to 2.0
Ah, that explains it then.
Yeah, wow, devs are getting fricking scammed. When did this change occur? Persona 4 Gold has been using Denuvo since 2020 - could they have gotten grandfathered into an old system? Like, SO MANY NICHE SEGA GAMES use this shit, that I can't imagine it costing them 25,000, and them keeping it up.
5 months ago
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>could they have gotten grandfathered into an old system?
No one knows, there are a few companies still using Denuvo on games that are definitely profiting less than the license fee. Worth note is that the companies doing this are also the first handful of companies to ever use Denuvo. So the speculation is that they may be early investors in Denuvo who get a special sweetheart deal.
5 months ago
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Alternatively, would it be that surprising if Sega was just being fricking moronic again?
5 months ago
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Fair assessment
5 months ago
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When Denuvo changed to SaaS they switched to a "one size fits all" package for marketing purposes, so yes there is no more tiers.
5 months ago
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They got rid of different packages when they went from a final sale product to a subscription service. You can no longer "buy" denuvo. You can only rent it. israelites israeliteing israelites.
5 months ago
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Let's say I sell a million copies. That's $525k per month, 6.3 million in a year. If I sold for $60 each, after steam cut and taxes, denuvo wants like 20% of my profits. How is this possibly worth it for any company, is it just done out of spite?
5 months ago
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>That's $525k per month, 6.3 million in a year.
Anon the per sale cut is once. You don't pay 50 cents per copy sold every month forever. If you sold 1 million copies you owe them $500k once
5 months ago
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> 6.3 million in a year.
What?
No you owe them after 1 year totalling 1 million sales
$150,000 in Denuvo license fees + $500,000 in activation charges. Thats $650,000
5 months ago
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>That's $525k per month, 6.3 million in a year.
Anon the per sale cut is once. You don't pay 50 cents per copy sold every month forever. If you sold 1 million copies you owe them $500k once
That's more reasonable, I thought the activation was per month also
5 months ago
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Activation fees are 1 time, you owe 50 cents per copy flat.
>Denuvo has become a self-sustaining financial meme.
Massive fricking sour grapes cope. The list of uncracked games continues to grow with impunity despite continued cries for many of those games to PLEASE BE CRACKED, MEPRESS HELP
if people are desperate for cracks they havent bought it yet. let them pirate and its free advertising for some other homie with money IF you made a good game.
It's like with convicted hackers, if you can figure out how to break a system then you can think up ways to defend against that. These skills are useful, and hackers/crackers get hired for big salaries. The industry literally poached talent.
>Get hired because you can crack Denuvo >Get paid well so you don't need to be cracking vidya anymore >Get paid well so you can buy a more expensive PC so you can ignore the performance detriment of what you're doing >You're making a living out of making products worse for everyone because of your talent at fixing those products
You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain
5 months ago
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We perpetuate capitalism by participating in it, but that's not a conversation we're ready to have
5 months ago
Anonymous
If you don't have an alternative that doesn't involve a dictator for life, don't even bother.
5 months ago
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Tax the rich and educate the masses
5 months ago
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>educate the masses
Unfortunately useless if you let populists scream whatever they want on TV. Social networks clickbaiting and bubble effects are also parts of the problem.
The cracking scene had a lot of drama at some point, with some mfers getting jailed, and others getting hired by Denuvo.
But even before that, Denuvo was a very tedious DRM to crack. From what I understand, hackers liked cracking games as older digital securities were more like puzzles you gotta decipher. Denuvo is basically layers of checks that are annoying to check one by one. I'm talking hundreds of thousands checks.
Empress was the only one autistic enough to do that.
The cracking scene had a lot of drama at some point, with some mfers getting jailed, and others getting hired by Denuvo.
But even before that, Denuvo was a very tedious DRM to crack. From what I understand, hackers liked cracking games as older digital securities were more like puzzles you gotta decipher. Denuvo is basically layers of checks that are annoying to check one by one. I'm talking hundreds of thousands checks.
Empress was the only one autistic enough to do that.
Yeah pretty much this. Cracking Denuvo isn't "hard", it's just mind-numbingly time consuming. We're talking like dozens and dozens of hours of disabling checks one by one. No thinking required, just sheer drudgery. It's the hacking version of a wagie job but you don't even get the benefit of clowning off with friends.
They started working on this game during the peak of the superhero craze.
They tought that it would last for many years, they didn't expect Marvel to go full woke and kill itself and the interest of the people on every superhero movie.
This game should have been released a couple of years ago right after Spider-Man: No Way Home, releasing it after The Marvels is pure """suicide""".
>Denuvo >on an always online GAAS
These guys literally don't know what they're doing. These soulless corporate suits are making this shit by the checkboxes.
>Figure I'll frick around with this game just to see how bad it is >Find out it's not F2P
Holy shit people pay $70 for this MTX ridden money vacuum GaaS shit?
As much as I want it to be, I have a sinking feeling this is going to work out. Not WELL mind you, but I foresee this trash getting a small, whale-y enough base that it hangs on for a year or 2 and shuts down quietly without taking Rocksteady down.
Yes
tl;dr the gacha bombed in Japan but they put a ton of work into localizing it and may or may not be contractually obligated to release it, so they're doing this
Wait what? Does that mean that they are releasing a huge event 1 month before they are fully shutting down the servers for that game? No fricking way right?
>Watching Batman Arkham Videos stream of the game >Half an hour in the game closes because of server maintenance
I was really optimistic for this game. At least I didn't spend money.
Clearly all the white guys would have done a civil war and stopped WB from sending those demands and firing them if they didn't go through with it. Your post implies WB did not want any of this an all decisions came from random new hires.
>the game will probably break even
I'm thinking that's if they're lucky, if it's not an outright failure after launch, I think it'll still underperform by a wide margin
>the game will probably break even
I'm thinking that's if they're lucky, if it's not an outright failure after launch, I think it'll still underperform by a wide margin
It's probably going to be like Anthem, a one year "support" and then they pulled the plug. I doubt it's going to last as long as Marvel's Avengers.
>only recently saw this title mentioned somewhere >looks like current year shit that probably is filled with in jokes from the recent terrible cartoons/shows
Who is this for and what type of game is it even supposed to be? just looks like a bad concept that was thrown together to soak up the last bits of cash from the cape-shit obsessed people still around.
There's a fricking maintenance now for early access players. Because some players were somehow getting max loot and 100% story completion upon logging in.
How could the suicide squad fight Superman? Like homie come on I can't suspend all my disbelief lmao >gun man and athletic woman with a blunt weapon will beat the guy who could toss the planet into a black hole
sure fricking thing. >MUH KRYPTONITE
Superman could kill someone from fricking Uranus if he wanted. He doesn't need to be within a million miles of any green rocks. This story sounds like it was written by some 17 year old who isn't even familiar with the properties.
Aside from whenever they want to write him to be evil in some AU. Then he is literally unstoppable no matter his arrogance.
Wasn't arrogance that defeated him in Red Son, it was psychology. And it wasn't arrogance that defeated him in Injustice. It was multiple versions of every single DC character going after him.
>game is autocompleting for people before they even get to play it
THE GAME IS TRYING TO SAVE PEOPLE THE TIME AND LOCKING THEM OUT OF ITSELF HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
this game will be a massive success
print this
>massive success
>not on top sellers
>not on popular upcoming top 10
lmao
rip
lmfao you're fricking moronic
avengers dove into a grave, and it had a big name behind it
this is just that, with less popular characters
This, I can even safely say that this game will be infinitely more popular during its release period than Hyenas during its own.
This is going to be a classic case of "dead after a week" except for those into grinding shit. Even Gotham Knights found an audience.
Send me a fax and I'll get it done
They made the season passes free, they gave up on it from the shit reception it had.
I expect if it's "successful" it'll be due to very very steep discounts immediately after launch and flaunting how many units it pushes.
Also, fast track to game pass and ps+
This will be another "Avengers" game situation in my eyes. People will buy it, drop it after 10 hours, and have buyer's regret because they expected something better.
What's sad is they delayed this game for ONE YEAR and it still looks awful and a lot of people can't even tell the game looks better, so what did they spend a year "polishing" and doing? Early reviews aren't very good, so one article where a critic played for 20 hours and didn't enjoy it.
Only if you livestream your suicide if this turns out to be wrong.
it'll be high on twitch for a week then quickly forgotten
i don't have a printer, is a screenshot ok?
It will be a huge failure and kill rocksteady print this homie
This game will lead to rocksteady getting buried
And im all for it
I am very unsatisfied with what we are getting from western AAA studios as of late
IF Gotham Knights is any indication, it will be removed about a week in.
And I doubt people would buy it either way. Reception doesn't seem too positive.
>Paying $25,000 and 50 cents per copy just to slow piracy by a week
What a moronic idea
As it's certainly a rancid game they're worried about trying before buying and words of mouth. Yet I agree that it's probably not worth it.
I think it probably cost them more to licence denuvo than the game will make
I wouldn't even play this game for free
Even the people who did still didn't particularly like it
>review embargo
>always online
>denuvo on last moment
if you buy this slop you deserve to get scammed
on last moment
this almost makes it sound like they are going to implement denuvo in 4 days
Why have denuvo if it´s going to be online only?
Because it's a money laundering scheme or some other corrupt shit.
DRM does not give you more sales as has been proven multiple times. Hundreds of millions of 3rd worlders aren't gonna conjure $$$ out of thin air just because you put Denuvo in your crap game.
it always felt like they are actively trying to tank this game
>no review copies
>DRM in always online game
>battle pass
>multiple currencies
>captain boomerang uses fricking guns
what the frick are those morons thinking?
>multiple currencies
So... a gacha "disguised" as an actual "game"?
More or less.
Initial reception was bad and they have no faith. Gunna try and squeeze what they can as quick as they can before pulling the plug.
I didn't even play the first one, not even so much as google it or watch a gameplay video about it. Same for this game. Capeshit is so beyond fricking lame, you should genuinely go laugh at yourself in a mirror for taking it seriously or trying to monetize it. I didn'tt even watch omniman, because of how little I fricking care.
Now frick off.
Now say it without crying.
which first one, coolguy?
I don't fricking know, wasn't there another suicide squad related thing? I didn't watch the movie, I'm too coolguy for that.
i don't think so
there was the arkham games, and the gotham game that was like arkham: mspaint edition.
now we're getting arkham: ubisoft edition
dont think there's been any suuside squad game
I could've sworn there was some suicide squad game that people made fun of on here for having the same ui we used to make memes about. Was that this game?
coolguyanonchama... thats this game.
might be confusing you because they showed this game like 2-3 years ago, but delayed it to... "improve" it.
dios mios
worst UI of 2024
YOUR CUM METER IS EXTREMELY LOW, START GOONING NOW
Way ahead of you
You remembered to deposit your data shards, right Ganker?
>this is what the people shit talking Elden Ring think is good UI
Actually no the complaint about elden ring from devs was about it's UX. Now you might be confused and think that's just fancy word for UI but no, I had to chat with some people to learn that UX has little to do with UI design and is more about monetized gameplay loops and dopamine dumps. It's a strictly internal word that no one outside of gamedev has ever used before those tweets.
UX is the acronym for user experience and it's been definitely used in software development and marketing for many years. I'm not surprised it crossed over to game development.
User experience yeah, allot of people mistake it for meaning UI but it's more stuff like "let's have daily login bonuses" or "let's have our character quip about pushing a box so the players knows they can" or "let's put yellow tape on ever interaction". You know....cancer.
From a software point of view, it tries to define how a user achieves what he wants to do through the product. For example, you can have a good UI, but if you don't have the functions that the user wants or if they are poorly implemented (for example full of bugs), he will have a poor experience.
Context matters though. The devs that complained about elden rings UX was about shit like "why is the golden knight attacking us, enemies should look evil in design" or "how was I supposed to know merchant kale was not hostile when he's sitting at a campfire and knights of godrick also sit at a campfire". They wanted their hands held with quips that say "oh this guy sells stuff" or (entering hostile area) messages.
Well, one problem with UX is that you generally focus on the average users, not the moronic ones.
>Oh frick guys I’m at 60% Batman
Fire the UI Designer. He did a bad job.
>He
makes sense
>same girl responsible for Trials Fusion's layout
The frick happened between then and now? Fusion's UI was great and thematically appropriate.
Her boss told her how to design SS UI following; usual executive meddling.
in a way this nu-ui is also thematically appropriate to marvelsloppers
>he didn't buy enough energy crystals to tune the anti-Flash weapon
where's the fingerless glove meter?
>dogshit UI, possibly the worst ever produced
>Gotham Knights / Avengers ‘live service will totally work this time guys’ mindset, with everything must be a grind, timed, including 3+ types of currency and crafting mechanics
>that weird plot point where Poison Ivy comes back from the dead as a child and Harley heavily implies she might molest her
>dogshit looking Alt Universe Joker because we absolutely need a Joker to market the game
>That incredibly ugly Hollywood bald bugeyed black woman is playing Waller for no other reason than she’s famous, completely ruining the character’s original design
>actual gameplay looks incredibly shallow and each character seems to use guns while instead regulating their actual powers/skills to cooldown abilities
Everytime I see this game it gets a little worse
>that weird plot point where Poison Ivy comes back from the dead as a child and Harley heavily implies she might molest her
w-what
Immediately what I thought of
>guns guns guns
I never get the point of forcing guns in super hero stuff. It often makes little sense especially if these types hold their own against alien forces using their 9MM's and shit. If they can do that, how in the hell would the military forces of the world even be having issues in the slightest? They have even more guns.
Forcing guns as basically a super power kills the entire genre and creates the Syndrome "when everyone is super..." problem by making an item anyone can use into effectively a super power on par with super speed, flight, invulnerability etc. Also if a special bullet can harm you, you aren't fricking invulnerable.
Doesnt help that only Deadshot is really known for using guns. Harley is primarily associated with hammers and grabbing random shit, Captain Boomerang is self explanatory and King Shark is a seven foot tall shark man.
How can Harley hurt fricking anyone? She isn't super strong so she lacks much force swinging an oversized weapon. It'd be like a toddler trying to kill someone with some massive fricking sword. It's not going to work well with his strength.
>How can Harley hurt fricking anyone?
because she's a woman and the game is made by neoliberal suits
I doubt your culture war shit is the reason.
ok
They've been really trying to make Harley into some kind of peak human athlete lately, like Batman or Nightwing when even in her older comic apperaence, she used misdirection and stealth rather than brute force. Unironically, they should've made a game like MGSV, where you can clown on your enemies undetected rather than an all-action game, if they wanted an actual canon Harley abilities.
Harley being a threat to even a thug with a gun will always be asinine. She is not strong, she does not have super powers, she does not have extensive combat training.
She was originally portrayed as a nigh joke sidekick whose entire thing was being in a toxic relationship. The weirdest aspect of Harley to me is how she is pushed as some yaas queen to emulate when she is literally a sociopathic serial killer. I guess a female mass shooter would also be yaas queen.
the problem is she got really popular from reasons that are problematic now. they weren't able to keep her as is because interest groups would be coming after them. but, changing her has really sort of killed her popularity, because her entire appeal was "goofy murderous bawd who's the Joker's boyfriend", and they literally took every bit of that away from her.
They kept the goofy murderous bawd part. She is goofy, a serial killer, and in her show acts like a bawd.
>murderous
nope, she's anti-hero now who is le heckin wholesome and only kills other bad guys
>bawd
also nope, they completely removed her sex appeal over the past 5 yers
>a serial killer
see above
>murderous
>nope
She literally executes batman in this game, m8
In the last DCAU thing I saw she decapitated a guy for no reason but to be random
>bawd
>nope
She flashes people in her cartoon and the image of the series poster has her riding a giant space ship wiener
>She literally executes batman in this game, m8
yeah because the justice league are bad guys in it, dipshit.
>In the last DCAU thing I saw she decapitated a guy for no reason but to be random
yea and I bet the guy was some innocent civilian with a wife and kids instead of a henchman or mook she was fighting.
>She flashes people in her cartoon and the image of the series poster has her riding a giant space ship wiener
safe horny
yawn
>who's the Joker's boyfriend
girlfriend* even, kek
what does the batman meter do
I assume it is to indicate he is speaking over a radio, but there are no subtitles so i could be wrong.
it makes you batty
THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU LET FRICKERS LIKE THESE THINK THEY KNOW VIDEO GAMES
YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE
what """""Game UX""""" sins does Elden Ring even commit?
>Nor PC graphics etc
I remember some stuttering issues but that was fixed, I think
>Quest design
Souls quest design is odd. I agree.
>what """""Game UX""""" sins does Elden Ring even commit?
Only one. It's a game with just enough mechanical complexity that an actual manual like in the old days could have been useful. The ingame tutorials and "item descriptions" don't reveal all of the relevant details. Most of them, but not all of them. It would have been helpful for the UX if the game shipped with a real manual, even if it's just PDF in the digital versions.
Don't get me wrong, I don't want everything explained. People who complain that "Malenia cheats" are wiki-binging tryhards who want to unlock every secret so that they can minmax their gameplay and anticipate every possible enemy action instead of developing situational awareness and the ability to react to adverse circumstances.
>Only one. It's a game with just enough mechanical complexity that an actual manual like in the old days could have been useful. The ingame tutorials and "item descriptions" don't reveal all of the relevant details. Most of them, but not all of them
Before saying good or bad, isn't that basically every Souls games? Most dont tell you shit beyond stuff like "RB is light attack and RT is heavy attack"
>Before saying good or bad, isn't that basically every Souls games?
Yes but for some reason it was Elden Ring that got devs seething out of nowhere despite a decade of their games being highly succesful and praised everywhere.
>but for some reason
You mean jealousy from the game's success?
You know that you can have description of every stats on the status screen, like in every souls games?
My card is a 1060 3gb and Elden Ring ran fine, 60 fps indoors 50 fps outdoors. I don't get the performance complains
>Always online
>Denuvo
I don't get it
If it's always online it's already unpirateable
What's the point of adding an extra performance hog?
Suits are completely divorced from reality
pirates might modify the game which allows offline gaming with certain limitations for couple of stages, we can't have that obviously so denuvo was installed to hinder any changes of gamers having free fun.
Crash Bandicoot 4 on PC was "Always Online" but it got cracked.
>If it's always online it's already unpirateable
That is incorrect
Even if it was possible, would you really want to?
Depends on how much of the game is server-side, since making a basic keep-alive/inventory+progress relay. That said, breaking the encryption is a tedious fricking affair.
What point is there to adding Denuvo to an always-online game? Do they fear someone will make a standalone offline version?
Maybe, the online only its only to try to avoid pirating, and easily patchable since it could only be a permanent online check?
Only morons care about denuvo
Why even pay for the drm if you made the game always online?
It's terrible isn't it.
They do this thinking "this will save our game right guys"
Why do you care if it has Denuvo if you're hellbent on hating it? You wouldn't be thinking of playing it, huh, homosexual?
This game is going to be the biggest flop in video game history.
What was their thought process?
>no one's so stupid to get an untested vaccination
what does live service even mean here? i thought it was a story game?
>Denuvo
>in an always online game
Why?
NOOO I WAS JUST ABOUT TO PREORDER THIS!!!! NOW ILL HAVE TO WAIT 6 WEEKS BEFORE THE MOVIE ADAPTATION BY NETFLIX!!! MOMMY STARBUCKS NOW!!!! STANLEY CUPPIES!!!!! NOT MY HECKIN $6 BIG MACCIES!!!
Isn't the game always online? Why blow 25 grand a month when it's already effectively unplayable pirated
its easy to get around that stuff, i pirated dead island 2 and it always tries to phone home before it starts.
Not even remotely comparable.
if you say so
That is apples and oranges. A phone home is NOTHING compared to server side content delivery, the game's functional content basically doesn't on your client until the server sends you all the spawn data and other shit. It's like the """cracked""" version of Diablo 3, that barely fricking works and is nothing like the actual game because it's all slipshod guessing on the fake servers part
yea except this game is probably complete and just has lootboxes and dailies, same as nu hitman, thats fine to play without being online.
Server authoritative, server generated live service game =/= online license check local game
It's an online service game that won't let you play without connecting to their servers
Literally what is the point
they use Denuvo anti cheat most likely. I mean, online games all have some form of anti cheat otherwise they'd be unplayable. They just didn't bother with any in-house solution and went with Denuvo.
Denuvo has become a self-sustaining financial meme. Shareholders that have no fricking clue what it is they're having sold on their behalf or if it would even apply are caught in a chicken and egg loop.
>Shareholders that have no fricking clue what it is they're having sold on their behalf or if it would even apply are caught in a chicken and egg loop.
totally oblivious to software as a subscription - get locked into dropping 2000eurobux a month keeping that shit going after the first year.
Sega must have a super secret special deal, because otherwise they're getting raped in the ass by Denuvo
>2000eurobux
Denuvo costs $25,000 per month + $0.50 from every copy sold
I imagine the 25,000 is for one month protection, but there are probably other deals for longer periods.
what is wegame
>Reddit
Denuvos pricing model is public due to selling it on Amazon Marketplace which exposes all pricing models. You can stick with reality straight from the company rather than a moronic redditor parsing ancient documents
>Reddit
Or straight from Denuvo themselves
Yeah, I know, I saw that on AWS - it seems incomplete. Like, that's the only package?
>Like, that's the only package?
Yes, because they dropped the tiering system when they dropped their perpetual offering when they shifted from version 1.2.1 to 2.0. Anti-cheat is also available but this gets used by basically no one because it barely works and anyone scared about cheating is using server side progress anyway so why pay money to stop single player cheat engine shit.
>Yes, because they dropped the tiering system when they dropped their perpetual offering when they shifted from version 1.2.1 to 2.0
Ah, that explains it then.
Yeah, wow, devs are getting fricking scammed. When did this change occur? Persona 4 Gold has been using Denuvo since 2020 - could they have gotten grandfathered into an old system? Like, SO MANY NICHE SEGA GAMES use this shit, that I can't imagine it costing them 25,000, and them keeping it up.
>could they have gotten grandfathered into an old system?
No one knows, there are a few companies still using Denuvo on games that are definitely profiting less than the license fee. Worth note is that the companies doing this are also the first handful of companies to ever use Denuvo. So the speculation is that they may be early investors in Denuvo who get a special sweetheart deal.
Alternatively, would it be that surprising if Sega was just being fricking moronic again?
Fair assessment
When Denuvo changed to SaaS they switched to a "one size fits all" package for marketing purposes, so yes there is no more tiers.
They got rid of different packages when they went from a final sale product to a subscription service. You can no longer "buy" denuvo. You can only rent it. israelites israeliteing israelites.
Let's say I sell a million copies. That's $525k per month, 6.3 million in a year. If I sold for $60 each, after steam cut and taxes, denuvo wants like 20% of my profits. How is this possibly worth it for any company, is it just done out of spite?
>That's $525k per month, 6.3 million in a year.
Anon the per sale cut is once. You don't pay 50 cents per copy sold every month forever. If you sold 1 million copies you owe them $500k once
> 6.3 million in a year.
What?
No you owe them after 1 year totalling 1 million sales
$150,000 in Denuvo license fees + $500,000 in activation charges. Thats $650,000
That's more reasonable, I thought the activation was per month also
Activation fees are 1 time, you owe 50 cents per copy flat.
How do the Handball publishers afford paying for it after all these years?
Handball is so old it had Denuvo 1.0, which was a flat fee perpetual.
Handball creators are multi-trillionaires thanks to ending piracy
>Denuvo has become a self-sustaining financial meme.
Massive fricking sour grapes cope. The list of uncracked games continues to grow with impunity despite continued cries for many of those games to PLEASE BE CRACKED, MEPRESS HELP
if people are desperate for cracks they havent bought it yet. let them pirate and its free advertising for some other homie with money IF you made a good game.
Why have all cracker groups given up on Denuvo anyway?
I honestly always thought they left the scene out of being disillusioned with modern games.
It's like with convicted hackers, if you can figure out how to break a system then you can think up ways to defend against that. These skills are useful, and hackers/crackers get hired for big salaries. The industry literally poached talent.
>Get hired because you can crack Denuvo
>Get paid well so you don't need to be cracking vidya anymore
>Get paid well so you can buy a more expensive PC so you can ignore the performance detriment of what you're doing
>You're making a living out of making products worse for everyone because of your talent at fixing those products
You either die a hero or live long enough to become a villain
We perpetuate capitalism by participating in it, but that's not a conversation we're ready to have
If you don't have an alternative that doesn't involve a dictator for life, don't even bother.
Tax the rich and educate the masses
>educate the masses
Unfortunately useless if you let populists scream whatever they want on TV. Social networks clickbaiting and bubble effects are also parts of the problem.
All the competent ones left for crypto.
The cracking scene had a lot of drama at some point, with some mfers getting jailed, and others getting hired by Denuvo.
But even before that, Denuvo was a very tedious DRM to crack. From what I understand, hackers liked cracking games as older digital securities were more like puzzles you gotta decipher. Denuvo is basically layers of checks that are annoying to check one by one. I'm talking hundreds of thousands checks.
Empress was the only one autistic enough to do that.
Yeah pretty much this. Cracking Denuvo isn't "hard", it's just mind-numbingly time consuming. We're talking like dozens and dozens of hours of disabling checks one by one. No thinking required, just sheer drudgery. It's the hacking version of a wagie job but you don't even get the benefit of clowning off with friends.
another AAA slopper shitter studio will get canned and that's a good thing
Bold of them to assume any significant amount of people want to pirate their game.
theyre spending tens of thousands to make thousands.
I feel bad for the dead dev but this is almost nuRows tier.
>Paying money for Denuvo when not even pirates were going to bother playing this
Ahahahahahahahha
>Why do our games keep failing?
I dunno, better keep adding awful system-killing DRM though.
>Hurr dey snuck it in last minute!
>Meanwhile every WB release in the last ~5 years has had Denuvo
what a trash rag
a lot of the time they send out non-denuvo copies to reviewers and then add it in day one.
just like dragon's dogma 2
sure fire way to make pro-capitalist boot licking incels will support the game thou
smart
They started working on this game during the peak of the superhero craze.
They tought that it would last for many years, they didn't expect Marvel to go full woke and kill itself and the interest of the people on every superhero movie.
This game should have been released a couple of years ago right after Spider-Man: No Way Home, releasing it after The Marvels is pure """suicide""".
>Denuvo
>on an always online GAAS
These guys literally don't know what they're doing. These soulless corporate suits are making this shit by the checkboxes.
>Figure I'll frick around with this game just to see how bad it is
>Find out it's not F2P
Holy shit people pay $70 for this MTX ridden money vacuum GaaS shit?
>suicide squad
>commits suicide
Is this the most DOA game of the year?
As much as I want it to be, I have a sinking feeling this is going to work out. Not WELL mind you, but I foresee this trash getting a small, whale-y enough base that it hangs on for a year or 2 and shuts down quietly without taking Rocksteady down.
This is some hard copium man. Rocky Steady is going to be shutting down soon and you know it.
It's so fricking bad thousands are going to buy it just to shit on it. kek
Nothing will beat the stillbirth of Hyenas, compared to Suicide Squad's impending neonatal death.
imo, it cant get any more literal DoA than this.
Am I reading that right?
Yes
Yes
tl;dr the gacha bombed in Japan but they put a ton of work into localizing it and may or may not be contractually obligated to release it, so they're doing this
Why even launch in that case?
Probably some contractual obligation.
This is great. Basically Suicide Squad failed even at being the fastest failure of 2024.
for what purpose
Wait what? Does that mean that they are releasing a huge event 1 month before they are fully shutting down the servers for that game? No fricking way right?
>Watching Batman Arkham Videos stream of the game
>Half an hour in the game closes because of server maintenance
I was really optimistic for this game. At least I didn't spend money.
>I was really optimistic for this game.
What? Why?
Will it fare better than Hyenas?
>Rocksteady's face when they have to do what WB tell them to
Is Suicide Squad even a popular thing at all in media? I thought the movies bombed.
>All the original devs at Rockstar leave
>Only diversity hires left
>They make this politically correct slop
Glad Rocksteady is going under.
>Rockstar
kek, but also still true.
just like every fricking dev alive.
>Rockstar
Heh still you're right in both cases
Clearly all the white guys would have done a civil war and stopped WB from sending those demands and firing them if they didn't go through with it. Your post implies WB did not want any of this an all decisions came from random new hires.
>literal mark of shit game
How many redflags can this possibly get? WTF is wienersteady DOING
Early Access is now live. Some people are streaming it.
Oh boy, its gonna be a trainwreck
the game will probably break even at least and make some money after a while but i doubt it will please the investors.
>the game will probably break even
I'm thinking that's if they're lucky, if it's not an outright failure after launch, I think it'll still underperform by a wide margin
It's probably going to be like Anthem, a one year "support" and then they pulled the plug. I doubt it's going to last as long as Marvel's Avengers.
http://twitch.tv/solidfps
>game looks like shit
>characters never shut up
>chat is non-stop praising it
Many such cases.
>only recently saw this title mentioned somewhere
>looks like current year shit that probably is filled with in jokes from the recent terrible cartoons/shows
Who is this for and what type of game is it even supposed to be? just looks like a bad concept that was thrown together to soak up the last bits of cash from the cape-shit obsessed people still around.
There's a fricking maintenance now for early access players. Because some players were somehow getting max loot and 100% story completion upon logging in.
Lel
What the frick? There are people playing this shit?
now that's what I call a pre-order bonus
Look on the bright side, at least they won't have to play the game now.
This game comes out tomorrow and it's still THAT bad?
Wait it comes out fricking tomorrow?
Google said it did, but I'm seeing February 2nd in some other places.
>buying a denuvo license for a game that's about to bomb and lose money
??????????????????????????
Poorgays still crying about denuvo? What year is this? 2014?
Denuvo shills defending their bloatware? Timeless.
Skin packs are worth 1100 credits. Which is 16nzd.
How could the suicide squad fight Superman? Like homie come on I can't suspend all my disbelief lmao
>gun man and athletic woman with a blunt weapon will beat the guy who could toss the planet into a black hole
sure fricking thing.
>MUH KRYPTONITE
Superman could kill someone from fricking Uranus if he wanted. He doesn't need to be within a million miles of any green rocks. This story sounds like it was written by some 17 year old who isn't even familiar with the properties.
superman is always undone by his own arrogance
Aside from whenever they want to write him to be evil in some AU. Then he is literally unstoppable no matter his arrogance.
Wasn't arrogance that defeated him in Red Son, it was psychology. And it wasn't arrogance that defeated him in Injustice. It was multiple versions of every single DC character going after him.
Harley Quinn once fought Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman all at the same team and beat them all effortlessly.
hey she was a gymnast or something and then got some super aids for super powers. makes perfect sense
Nobody fricking acknowledges that trash comic. Not even DC themselves.
Wasn't it an always online game in the first place?
Literally who?
A Palworld thread died for this
>Palworld
Who?
It's not Tuesday anymore.
but its a 4 player co-op game
nobody would pirate this in the first place
fricking keke how to kill your game totally xD
now noone gona play it 😀
>game is autocompleting for people before they even get to play it
THE GAME IS TRYING TO SAVE PEOPLE THE TIME AND LOCKING THEM OUT OF ITSELF HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
It has developed sentience and tries to do what it can for the people.
>yfw you realize that you are a piece of shit that should have been aborted
Even better: it's trying to save people from wasting their time because it wants to be a genuine hero unlike the Squad.
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/rocksteady-pulls-suicide-squad-an-hour-into-early-access-after-players-games-auto-completed/
Personally i wasnt even gonna pirate it, havent even played that trainwreck gotham knights