Half Life fans are the worst >it's.. it's good! you just have to skip Xen. And download these mods, or just play the unofficial official fan version made years later because it's bette- really good too
HL1 is good, but only in the middle section, from the introduction of the marines to Xen. There it has some if the best enemies of any shooter, comnined with good levels, and there at least is hence better than games like Doon or HL2.
From the top of my head the enemies in Half Life were >Zombies >Generic soldiers >Ninja soldiers >Turrets >Helicopters >Dog aliens with a wind up attack >Humanoid aliens with a wind up attack >Fat aliens >Headcrabs >Some kind of fish? >Those homies on ceilings that try to eat you
Which of these are the 'best enemies of any shooter'? Am I completely forgetting something? Half Life had shit enemies. Everything about it was pretty bad and it would've been forgotten if not for all the great mods it got such as Team Fortress Classic
Seriously, Shepherdgays cant go 5 minutes without explaining how Shepherd is cool and the best character, and its because of them we got Hunt Down the Freeman Through the City mod looks good though, especially because they got some actual VAs for it, including Kliener's
Half-Life is one of the games that if you compare it to shit back then, its a step back compared to Deus Ex and even to the level design of Doom and Quake, but if you compare it to modern shit its excellent - it oozes old school design ethos at every corner. It's a great game to play now, but yeah scripted liner corridor shit is not the best.
it's just straight good homie, you zoomers have trash taste
You need to be 18 to post on this website
>if you don't like my videogame you must be a zoomer
What a moronic argument. I bought this game when it first came out and still thought it was shit. Cope and seethe fanboys
I'd say HL1 is very much replayable, other than the opening
HL2 on the other hand is not. It's an absolutely awful game once you've played literally any other shooter made in the last 15 years and the novelty of not-cutscenes and vehicle sections has worn off.
It's not good. It was made by known scammers who commit false advertising and fraud.
Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
Enemies:
Headcrabs are 0 threat 'gotcha' enemies that exist purely to hit you for turning a corner.
Lightning dogs and tall dudes both take 15 years to do literally anything.
Tentacles are fricking stationary.
Etc.
Only humans are okay to fight and they feel like several steps down from Fear humans, which weren't even very fun to fight.
>Guns
The shotgun misses point blank.
It can miss when the barrel is inside the opponent.
How the FRICK do you make an FPS and the shotgun is bad.
>The later maps
WOW BAD
>The 'cinematic' shit
Occasionally the level may shoot you with lightning or a vent may break that's it wow
>The amazing NPC's
50'000 copies of the same fricking old man scientist sat on their ass making you do all the work
>The story
You come in work late day 1 and frick on the first day of the job because they put you on an apokalyptic device day fricking 1 and then people are just like "oh hey gordon how you doin' pal mind grabbing this thing from cool gordamn pal pal gordan gordon me old pal"
No one acts like this
No one would let Gordon work on that machine like its nothing when he couldn't even fricking get to work on time
Every aspect of the game is bad.
The world building is shit; gordon fricks up, infinite evil aliens arrive. WOW.
The enemies are shit.
The guns are shit.
The humans are shit.
The story is shit.
SHIT
I JUST beat HL1 for the first time and while the shooting was fun, its easy to see why they got rid of the platforming in 2. Who thought it was a good idea to put in so much fricking platforming? Source was good for the the guns and the shooting. From Xen to Nihilanth, the game was the shittiest FPS I had played.
only duke and blood come anywhere close to half life. people brown tongue doom and quake all the time but there are really only like 2 different level topologies and 3 different kinds of encounters.
>wow that was a tough fight, i'd better find some supplies >oh look, conspicuously placed health and ammo, just when i need them most! >i hope 100 monsters don't teleport out of nowhere to ambush me when i get the pickups >100 monsters teleport out of nowhere to ambush you when you get the pickups >repeat ad infinitum >in every wad or map pack ever >in all the games you listed
Doom has basically only one level that actually makes good use of its enemies the whole time outside of nightmare, and that's E4M1, so not even anything in the original game
This was big shit at the time. A cinematic-y cutscene wasn't attempted in an ostensibly FPS game before and Half-Life is legendary for getting it *right* the first time. You're still able to move around, you're still able to look around, even if actual interactivity is low it gives the illusion that you're still doing something. Hell, you can kill whatever npc is talking to you and face no real repercussions, which is a step up from the more storydriven HL2.
This was 1998, not your candy ass trying to hold it up under an additional 30 years of scrutiny, development, and industry growth.
>Casualized in what way and compared to what?
It's an overrated console shooter about an overrated propaganda IP, what about this isn't obvious enough?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do you even like videogames?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes
What about its objective based level design? Did you not find that more interesting than of running around gathering keys & finding the exit?
You call navigating around corridors "based level design?"
lol
Lol, I knew you'd try to weasel your way out.
Try giving a coherent question first.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Try giving a coherent question first.
Stop getting into circular internet fights for fun, you'll be much happier
2 years ago
Anonymous
How about you stop shilling console shooter trash?
2 years ago
Anonymous
What about its objective based level design? Did you not find that more interesting than of running around gathering keys & finding the exit?
>unintentional hilarious voice acting >Level Design >SFX
It all manages to create great package that only works in these boundaries that the game created. Its why I never enjoyed Black Mesa because it drains the soul out of the game despite looking impressive.
What was the name of that mod/Addon that basically has you being an a space cowboy or mercenary visiting Xen type Levels? I think it was Gunslinger or something.
It was mediocre then and probably unplayable shit now.
Half Life fans are the worst
>it's.. it's good! you just have to skip Xen. And download these mods, or just play the unofficial official fan version made years later because it's bette- really good too
You need to be 18 to post on this website
it's just straight good homie, you zoomers have trash taste
HL1 is good, but only in the middle section, from the introduction of the marines to Xen. There it has some if the best enemies of any shooter, comnined with good levels, and there at least is hence better than games like Doon or HL2.
From the top of my head the enemies in Half Life were
>Zombies
>Generic soldiers
>Ninja soldiers
>Turrets
>Helicopters
>Dog aliens with a wind up attack
>Humanoid aliens with a wind up attack
>Fat aliens
>Headcrabs
>Some kind of fish?
>Those homies on ceilings that try to eat you
Which of these are the 'best enemies of any shooter'? Am I completely forgetting something? Half Life had shit enemies. Everything about it was pretty bad and it would've been forgotten if not for all the great mods it got such as Team Fortress Classic
>he doesnt know about the soldier AI and the fact that there are 4 different types of soldier
sad!
Xen is good and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
this.
Xen is comfy and the gameplay is a nice change from the rest of the campaign
No it's not it's fricking boring and trash
>And download these mods
Never heard anyone say this because most HL1 mods are TCs. This isn't fricking Morrowind.
Half Life games have always been overrated.
They are just tech demos with shitty shooting.
_______ fans are the worst
>because of my strawman
kys zoomer
It's extremely replayable and an all-time classic.
I'm sorry you got filtered, zoomer.
oh its another zoomer tried a classic game and got filtered thread. i bet you just tried to run and gun the game didnt you?
Half Life walked so Opposing Force could run.
Definitely better and more replayable than the shitty sequel.
Shut up gay. Half-Life, Unreal, and Quake are some of the best FPS ever made.
Just needs a little visual spice, that's all.
Half-Life would have been the perfect game if it were designed as an immersive sim.
Basically PREY in Black Mesa.
Half-Life is fine as is but admittedly I'm curious as to what that would look like.
Black Mesa Deus Ex mod when?
>set before the resonance cascade, you can explore the whole facility
would be peak ludo
its fine. Enjoyed Quake 1 and Doom 1 much more, those 3 being the only 90's shooters i played.
I'm literally replaying it right now
“Replayable” doesn’t mean “it’s good so I’ve played it multiple times”, it means how many times can you play the same game and get different content.
>replayable doesn''t mean replayable
Never change, Ganker.
Under your logic any good video game is replayable because it’s a good game so you want to finish it multiple times.
Yes? If I play a good short game, more likely than not I’ll want to replay
Motherfricker what?
What new content are you looking for when you play tetris?
the only good games which are less replayable are very story-heavy games and super long games
Played it last year and still enjoyed it
Haha yeah.
>*proceeds to start 25th playthrough*
HL1>Black Mesa>Decay>>>>Blue Shift>>>>
Force
Seriously, Shepherdgays cant go 5 minutes without explaining how Shepherd is cool and the best character, and its because of them we got Hunt Down the Freeman Through the City mod looks good though, especially because they got some actual VAs for it, including Kliener's
based colette poster
only the best scientist schizo of course
this is porn isn't it
nah
>wand tool copy-pasted kleiner
Opposing Force is better than Blue Shift in any way.
Decay is based, I agree though.
>HD pack
Thoughts on Black Mesa? Feel like everythings too fricking bullet spongey for no reak reason.
Waste of time. Don't play it, the original game is superior in every aspect except polygon count.
It's nice to play once instead to replace the 14th playthrough of HL1, but ultimately the amateurism of it really shows.
The original mod was better. Just find a xen mod for it and you're good.
Half-Life is one of the games that if you compare it to shit back then, its a step back compared to Deus Ex and even to the level design of Doom and Quake, but if you compare it to modern shit its excellent - it oozes old school design ethos at every corner. It's a great game to play now, but yeah scripted liner corridor shit is not the best.
Gives me terrible motion sickness in like 15 minutes of playtime
>It's good, but its not timeless or replayable
I cannot think of anything more worthless and inane than the opinion of a smoothbrain about a medium he wasn't even alive when it released.
>if you don't like my videogame you must be a zoomer
What a moronic argument. I bought this game when it first came out and still thought it was shit. Cope and seethe fanboys
t. zoomtroon
I'd say HL1 is very much replayable, other than the opening
HL2 on the other hand is not. It's an absolutely awful game once you've played literally any other shooter made in the last 15 years and the novelty of not-cutscenes and vehicle sections has worn off.
It's not good. It was made by known scammers who commit false advertising and fraud.
Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
>Its good
Fricking wrong
Enviromenttions:
Grey or brown. Pick one.
Enemies:
Headcrabs are 0 threat 'gotcha' enemies that exist purely to hit you for turning a corner.
Lightning dogs and tall dudes both take 15 years to do literally anything.
Tentacles are fricking stationary.
Etc.
Only humans are okay to fight and they feel like several steps down from Fear humans, which weren't even very fun to fight.
>Guns
The shotgun misses point blank.
It can miss when the barrel is inside the opponent.
How the FRICK do you make an FPS and the shotgun is bad.
>The later maps
WOW BAD
>The 'cinematic' shit
Occasionally the level may shoot you with lightning or a vent may break that's it wow
>The amazing NPC's
50'000 copies of the same fricking old man scientist sat on their ass making you do all the work
>The story
You come in work late day 1 and frick on the first day of the job because they put you on an apokalyptic device day fricking 1 and then people are just like "oh hey gordon how you doin' pal mind grabbing this thing from cool gordamn pal pal gordan gordon me old pal"
No one acts like this
No one would let Gordon work on that machine like its nothing when he couldn't even fricking get to work on time
Every aspect of the game is bad.
The world building is shit; gordon fricks up, infinite evil aliens arrive. WOW.
The enemies are shit.
The guns are shit.
The humans are shit.
The story is shit.
SHIT
Name 1 (one) good game please.
>humans feel like several steps down from a game made nearly a decade later
kys for making me reply
soul
I JUST beat HL1 for the first time and while the shooting was fun, its easy to see why they got rid of the platforming in 2. Who thought it was a good idea to put in so much fricking platforming? Source was good for the the guns and the shooting. From Xen to Nihilanth, the game was the shittiest FPS I had played.
AHEM
Doom
Doom 2
Doom 3
Tribes 2
Duke Nuke 3D
Heretic
Blood
Quake 2
Quake 3
Unreal Tournament
Perfect Dark
Goldeneye
All way better than Half Life
>Quake 3
wat?
>Unreal Tournament
you mean unreal gold?
arena shooters can't be compared to full games with an actual campaign
only duke and blood come anywhere close to half life. people brown tongue doom and quake all the time but there are really only like 2 different level topologies and 3 different kinds of encounters.
>wow that was a tough fight, i'd better find some supplies
>oh look, conspicuously placed health and ammo, just when i need them most!
>i hope 100 monsters don't teleport out of nowhere to ambush me when i get the pickups
>100 monsters teleport out of nowhere to ambush you when you get the pickups
>repeat ad infinitum
>in every wad or map pack ever
>in all the games you listed
Doom has basically only one level that actually makes good use of its enemies the whole time outside of nightmare, and that's E4M1, so not even anything in the original game
I will eat Doom's butthole like groceries for the sheer amount of content support for it, total-conversion mods like Reelism are my jam
And this is what Half Life levels are like
>Literally more movie than game
HL started this whole trend with "cinematic" shooters that with long ass passive scenes like Metro.
I honestly can't stand these shooters.
This was big shit at the time. A cinematic-y cutscene wasn't attempted in an ostensibly FPS game before and Half-Life is legendary for getting it *right* the first time. You're still able to move around, you're still able to look around, even if actual interactivity is low it gives the illusion that you're still doing something. Hell, you can kill whatever npc is talking to you and face no real repercussions, which is a step up from the more storydriven HL2.
This was 1998, not your candy ass trying to hold it up under an additional 30 years of scrutiny, development, and industry growth.
Doom and Quake are the actual tech demos, not HL1 and HL2. The games themselves are lackluster and completely mogged by their mods.
>Goldeneye
moron
>Tribes 2
Try Starsiege or Earthsiege zoom zoom
Goleneye has one of the best campaigns of any FPS you mus-tard
And it's casualised garbage, no different to what Half-Life was doing.
Thanks for proving you're a zoomer considering you didn't even recognise that Tribes originated from Starsiege and Earthsiege you moron.
Casualized in what way and compared to what? Be specific about why.
>Casualized in what way and compared to what?
It's an overrated console shooter about an overrated propaganda IP, what about this isn't obvious enough?
Do you even like videogames?
Yes
You call navigating around corridors "based level design?"
lol
Try giving a coherent question first.
>Try giving a coherent question first.
Stop getting into circular internet fights for fun, you'll be much happier
How about you stop shilling console shooter trash?
What about its objective based level design? Did you not find that more interesting than of running around gathering keys & finding the exit?
Lol, I knew you'd try to weasel your way out.
>Your opinion doesn't count because you didn't list literally every game ever
Ok you station hogging shazbot
you never played any of these
stfu you underage honky
this proves you played it?
Yes. Obviously that is irrefutable evidence of such.
doubt it
>HL series hating contrarians look like *that*
Further discussion is useless, you wouldn't get it.
>Claiming other highly acclaimed series are better = hating HL
Stupid ass white boi
>black chimps outs when losing an argument
many such cases
As I said it's pointless. It's like trying to argue that you shouldn't have a cellulite "big ass" diabetes fetish.
Why are you brown?
God decided to have an ol' giggle.
>Goldeneye
Funnily enough this game has as much story as Half-Life 1 does.
I play it and the expansions through once a year and still enjoy it more than the trash released today. Sorry you had to be a braindead zoomer, OP.
And yet we're here, 24 years later, still talking about it.
Because gaming journalists, people infamous for not playing games, keep calling it one of the best games of all time.
I don't think a "gaming journalist" started this thread.
Its timeless, it's sequel on the other hand is dogshit
>unintentional hilarious voice acting
>Level Design
>SFX
It all manages to create great package that only works in these boundaries that the game created. Its why I never enjoyed Black Mesa because it drains the soul out of the game despite looking impressive.
STAHP NOOOOOO BLEUGH
What was the name of that mod/Addon that basically has you being an a space cowboy or mercenary visiting Xen type Levels? I think it was Gunslinger or something.
gunman chronicles
Thanks my dude, thats the one.
>Half-Life haters are moronic zoomers and or Black folk
Who would have thought...
WON version or St*am version?
HL 1 Source with Source fixed mod
every single part of half life 1 is perfect and anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot
Replayed it recently and I have to admit that it was better in my memories. Everything is great except shooting and in a fps shooting means all.
Half-life 1 is the best game made by Valve
Is it possible to beat the game glock only? Last time I tried I ran out of ammo on the Gonarch
You need to do a set amount of damage to Gonarch/Nihilant that probably exceed the glock ammo available. It's doable with crowbar+glock.
jesus fricking christ moderators