Not really.
Halo was still extremely popular as CoD was coming out. I think Halo 3 was the most popular console fps period.
I don't think CoD's existence ever hurt Halo beyond Halo trying to sadly copy it starting with 4 and above which ended up leading to its public suicide with Infinite.
>every single new MMO released after 2006 got hyped up as "wow killer" >none of them killed wow >none of them even put a dent in wow's subscription numbers
WoW slowly killed itself with shitty decisions, casualization of the game and replacing all the devs with diversity hires
Permanent upgrades and no limit to using said upgrades beyond ammunition
Alot of "metroidvanias" have the rpg elements of leveling up, only being able to equip certain things at any given time and such.
also a shit ton of mobility upgrades
it kinda is, but it's still a good game. I hated Elden Ring and went back to DaS1 to see if my opinion of the game had changed but no, I still like it, it's an enjoyable game despite its flaws. DaS2 sucked, DaS3 felt like a parody of a Souls game, and Elden Ring felt like a parody of a parody of a Souls game.
DaS2 feels like a chinese knockoff, the animations alone are really off-putting
They are all the same game, broslice
DaS1 is the only one with an interconnected world that is actually interesting to explore, DaS2's world design is less interesting, DaS3 is straight up on-rails linear garbage, and Elden Ring does the complete opposite and spreads itself too thin in a huge open world that is a chore to traverse.
why can't they go just back to DaS1's world design one more time?
>>why can't they go just back to DaS1's world design one more time?
Because mitsubishi sama knows better than you. With Elden Ring's success, I think the garbage open world is here to stay
>from the producers of that other game >comes a new game made by that other studio >comes on all new twist on an all ready played out genre >but this time its different >it's like that one game but better! >"its other game killer!" some website >"like another game but more awesome!" another website >winner of over 500 trade show awards even though the game isn't yet >winner of 200 awards at other award show (game still isn't out yet) >this fall >THE >GAME >IS >CHANGED >FOREVER >pre-order now
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Complaining about an rpg being inspired by earthbound is like complaining a 2d shooter is inspired by doom, or a arcade racer being inspired by mariokart, or a 3d platformer inspired by crash
They are obviously going to run off what is a gem in the genre, you would be moronic not to.
At best you are just malding over a dumb quote when really all they mean is - This is a 2d party based rpg
A lot of the games that are lumped into the genre don't even follow the name of the genre anyways. MortisGhost didn't even play Earthbound before making OFF. Nightmargin didn't even like Earthbound before making Oneshot. Oneshot isn't even an RPG. Therefore, this meme is moronic and every person that uses this meme unironically are also moronic.
Nah. Calling everything "just like Dark Souls" as a meme is not that moronic because it's making fun of journos who say the same thing. Also making fun of the insane amount of roguelikes is another good example.
I don't really see what's wrong with this, if a sequel turns out to be a genuinely good game and its only major fault is that it distanced itself from its prequels due to either the usual type of gameplay or other patterns does it really reserve to be called a bad game?
They don't really care about the games, they just want to feel like they belong to a community and they want it to be immutable because autists and morons fear change. If a game breaks the mold they would rather b***h and whine rather than finding new games within the same genre.
There's essentially a entire new wave of people, whether they be normal players or people who reviewing games on official platforms, whose only frame of reference of anything is Dark Souls. It's fricking insane.
Just think, some moron reviewer reviewing games on a big platform like IGN and his only exposure to anything related to ARPGs or action games is Dark Souls. That morons opinion will contribute to a game's success or failure.
Ok. Your post has nothing to do with the video though.
The video is about the success of dark souls and its similarities to the business model of IKEA. It's about why dark souls is like IKEA, not why other games are like dark souls.
this fricking baffoon only explained in a limited distorted profit point of view.
Dark souls is not hardcore nor deep, it was marketed so. Bandai namco did it, they marketed the game as so hardcore shit to normalgays who barely played games to make them think they were playing some hardcore game, the easy games around the time were the normagay shit.
Fromsoftware kept making the same game for 30 years which comes from the genre of drpgs which traditionally were difficult. And even then it isnt that hard. The story is a bunch of stickynotes that hide the lack od depth. The thing it got normeis to enjoy was the hypnotizing hyperfocused bossfights and the way it handles bossfights, that fricking message of you killing the boss along with the sound fricking domesticated fromdrones.
Frick hardcore players dont even play dark souls, normies and normalgays do it.
And you can do everything and get success from everyone, bethesda proved it, well the psedo-intellectuals hate them, but they dont play games anyway so.
And the thing about passionate players is wrong too, becasue fifa, mobile games and the like keep printing companies money.
and alot of companies go against the players interest and still make money.
Also dark souls was around the difficulty normalgay could play and they could grind to make the game easier anyway.
Frick remember those ecelebs praising dark souls that you could grind in it, you know the thing present in rpgs since their inception and many more types of game, the absolute state.
You sound mad. Also didn't get the point of the video. Room temperature IQ. And saying Dark Souls was played by normies marks you as underaged who doesn't remember that Dark Souls wasn't a smash hit but slowly gained popularity over time mainly through fan content. >this fricking baffoon only explained in a limited distorted profit point of view.
Yeah, turns out that games aren't made of sunshine and air and that they need to make a profit to keep the studio running. It also helps that profit is a very easily quantifiable measure of success.
Bethesda and EA don't "do everything" they also successfully pander to specific audiences. Just happens to be that those audiences are much larger then what Dark Souls panders to (casual open-world gamers and sports fans). >And the thing about passionate players is wrong too, becasue fifa, mobile games and the like keep printing companies money.
And you're saying those don't have passionate players? Those games rely a lot on whales who spend ludicrous amounts of money on them.
Typical low IQ Ganker post that doesn't understand the content presented and automatically hates it.
and alot of companies go against the players interest and still make money.
Also dark souls was around the difficulty normalgay could play and they could grind to make the game easier anyway.
Frick remember those ecelebs praising dark souls that you could grind in it, you know the thing present in rpgs since their inception and many more types of game, the absolute state.
>and alot of companies go against the players interest and still make money.
Which has nothing to do with the video. Did the guy ever mention that? No. His point is that you can find success by focussing on a target audience and saving on costs by excluding things that target audience wouldn't care about anyways. He doesn't say that this is the only way to find success either btw. Just that it's a way of finding success.
Nah. Just pointing out that your post was utterly moronic. Welcome to Ganker, we laugh at moronic people here.
Like. How did you even get it through your head that Bethesda does everything with their games? They very obviously don't. It's why you don't like them. Skyrim and Fallout don't have the depth a game with the title RPG would traditionally have. They very clearly traded mechanical and narrative depth to target a casual open-world gamer audience.
>Dark Souls was played by normies
yes it was normalgay, I would understand if you said oblivion, but dark souls 1 was clearly played by the normalgay type, not the normie type yet. It exploded for fromsoftware >Namco Bandai's yearly financial report stated that the game sold 1.19 million units in the United States and Europe by March 2012. FromSoftware announced in April 2013 that the game had sold 2.37 million units worldwide
and you call that not a smash hit. It exploded even firther in dark souls 2 and then in 3 throught advertising. The myth you heard from vatty is a marketting trick and he didnt even hide he was shilling for dark souls 2, other content creators were also invited to conferences about the game. >eah, turns out that games aren't made of sunshine and air and that they need to make a profit to keep the studio running. It also helps that profit is a very easily quantifiable measure of success. >le ITS DA REAL WORLD KID tier argument
I said it shows a very limited and distorted view of reallity and that can be very harmful if not dangerous. >Bethesda and EA don't "do everything"
Bethesda does that, well not to extremes, but they are getting there, they still actually face hardware limitations. Ea doesnt do everything, they milk normies. >casual open-world gamers
get a load of this homosexual. >And you're saying those don't have passionate players? Those games rely a lot on whales who spend ludicrous amounts of money on them. >Typical low IQ Ganker post that doesn't understand the content presented and automatically hates it.
They help too, but for the massive games like genshin or league the average player is very important. And whales can be easily pleased as seen what games they spend their money on. >Which has nothing to do with the video.
He cited an example of a company that didnt do that and failed.
>Sales figures
Dark souls was released in september 2011
1.2 millions copies in half a year is NOT smash hit material. Compare it to skyrim that sold 3.5 million copies in two fricking days.
Portal 2 sold 4 million copies before march 2012.
Batman: Arkham City sold 4.6 in 2011. >distorted view of reallity and that can be very harmful if not dangerous.
Based on what? Your word. I don't listen to morons. Besides, dark souls is also clearly a success on nearly every other metric like influence of the gaming industry, sequels made, and how well known it is. The guy in the video only had 30 minutes for his talk. He isn't going to mention literally everything. >Bethesda does everything
No it doesnt. They sacrificed depth for quantity with skyrim and fallout. >EA does everything
Yeah, their games totally don't ship with bugs and the FIFA games absolutely don't have content cut from them since the previous installment. But you're now just gonna think of some dumb reason to dismiss this because that fits your narrative better. >get a load of this homosexual.
Mad cuz wrong >massive games like genshin or league the average player is very important
What the frick is "the average player"? Once again proving yourself underage by forgetting that League didn't start out as some massive title but instead gained popularity over time. And league has always targeted a competitive audience. >Cited
Continental? He didn't say the reason it failed was because it didn't have the audience's best interest in mind.
>Just pointing out that your post was utterly moronic >When I'm not even the guy you're arguing with
Again, try shilling your videos on some other website next time.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Muh shilling
Posting on-topic content that actually fits the thread subject is forbidden on Ganker I forgot lol
You're right but you're trying to argue with a moron and a shitposter
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tanksies
>1.2 millions copies in half a year is NOT smash hit material.
kek >ITS ONLY POPULAR IF ALL THE NORMALgayS I DONT LIKE TALK ABOUT IT >Based on what?
my arguments I dont need social standing like that c**t to support my arguments, also as [...] said shill it somewhere else as it would fall apart when it is not in normalgay audience and has to stand by its arguments alone. >he guy in the video only had 30 minutes for his talk. He isn't going to mention literally everything.
what I said can be said in less than 5 minutes. >No it doesnt. They sacrificed depth for quantity with skyrim and fallout. >calling dark souls deep and tes or fo not deep in the same post
are you for real?
Have not read even a little bit of lore?
Mechanical knowledge is not depth, combos requare no thought. Or are you one of those that say that skyrim isnt and rpg? You should change the shilling material again. Does replacing usual rpg stats for stats that you have to raise or using perks for damage increase instead of stats unmake a rpg? >EA does everything
I said the opposite > And league has always targeted a competitive audience.
LMAO this homosexual, I only started to shill a bit to egays in season 3-4, past that they stopped. You can see it in their newer champions, you dont have to actually the shit they do to get fed, aphellios is a clear example. And they fricked over le proffesional players in season 5 in the jiggernaut rework. And most new skins are made for easy and popular champions and to pander to the chinese, like kaisa, yasuo, lux, ezreal. I didnt say they started big, I said that they have a focus on the average player and surprisingly he does spend alot, for an average player. >Continental? He didn't say the reason it failed was because it didn't have the audience's best interest in mind.
I said it because you argued against my argument that alot of companies go againt their target audience and still make money like riot games making characters gay.
>kek
No argument lol
For videogames 1.2 million copies in half a year is just not a smash hit. Video games are incredibly expensive to make in general. >>ITS ONLY POPULAR IF ALL THE NORMALgayS I DONT LIKE TALK ABOUT IT
Borderline schizo. >I dont need social standing
Bet you don't have any either. Also "muh shilling" isn't even an argument here since that guy is literally some rando developer who wanted to do a talk or something he liked. He doesn't have a youtube channel or something and he didn't get paid to be there. >what I said can be said in less than 5 minutes.
Jup, 5 more minutes that he doesn't need to spend on bullshit that doesn't matter to the subject of his presentation. Have you ever held a presentation before anon? Here's a tip. Don't get side tracked. >Calling darksouls and skyrim deep in the same post
I literally didn't. Schizo. >Lol didn't shill to competitive players
Historic revisionism >I said it
You just admitted to lying
I also never said that companies don't benefit from their audience by abusing them. Third schizo moment.
Room temperature IQ was being generous. You're in the single digits.
And some constructive criticism. I didn't post that video because I thought the dude is some kind of prophet who is completely correct about everything. And neither does that guy think or act like he's correct about everything. It's just an interesting observation on the similarities between the business model of dark souls and IKEA. Neither me, or that guy, said that the methods described are the only way of finding success, nor a guaranteed way of finding success. Please. When you watch / listen / read something actually pay attention to what is being said instead of whatever it is that you do when you watch something. Decide what you think about it beforehand and construct some kind of narrative to fit that, is that what you do?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>For videogames 1.2 million copies in half a year is just not a smash hit.
this homosexual
NOT EVERY GAME NEEDS TO SELL TEN BAJILLION COPIES
you are not getting proper picture of gameas if you are only looking at the most popular and marketed ones. Especially since dark souls 1 was a big step up for fromsoftware >inb4 word of mouth
the series got their sales boost with new games >inb4 obvious
from ds1 1.5-2.5 million sales to ds2 3-5 million sales and then ds3 3-10 million sales. It is not word of mouth. They marketed it as harcore to normalgays when it was a casual action game. >take meds shizo
go back >Bet you don't have any either
again go back >rando developer
he is shilling his website and companies and advertising his business partners >Historic revisionism
how exactly?
It is currently focusing on the chinese and average player. >Ea doesnt do everything, they milk normies. >EA does everything >I said the opposite >You just admitted to lying
are you ok? >also never said that companies don't benefit from their audience by abusing them. Third schizo moment.
how does riot benefit from the chinese by making graves and twisted fate gay? >ad hominems >le why criticize
I gave criticism.
>1.2 millions copies in half a year is NOT smash hit material.
kek >ITS ONLY POPULAR IF ALL THE NORMALgayS I DONT LIKE TALK ABOUT IT >Based on what?
my arguments I dont need social standing like that c**t to support my arguments, also as
>This much anger because people disagreed with your video
Kek, try shilling it on some other website next time.
said shill it somewhere else as it would fall apart when it is not in normalgay audience and has to stand by its arguments alone. >he guy in the video only had 30 minutes for his talk. He isn't going to mention literally everything.
what I said can be said in less than 5 minutes. >No it doesnt. They sacrificed depth for quantity with skyrim and fallout. >calling dark souls deep and tes or fo not deep in the same post
are you for real?
Have not read even a little bit of lore?
Mechanical knowledge is not depth, combos requare no thought. Or are you one of those that say that skyrim isnt and rpg? You should change the shilling material again. Does replacing usual rpg stats for stats that you have to raise or using perks for damage increase instead of stats unmake a rpg? >EA does everything
I said the opposite > And league has always targeted a competitive audience.
LMAO this homosexual, I only started to shill a bit to egays in season 3-4, past that they stopped. You can see it in their newer champions, you dont have to actually the shit they do to get fed, aphellios is a clear example. And they fricked over le proffesional players in season 5 in the jiggernaut rework. And most new skins are made for easy and popular champions and to pander to the chinese, like kaisa, yasuo, lux, ezreal. I didnt say they started big, I said that they have a focus on the average player and surprisingly he does spend alot, for an average player. >Continental? He didn't say the reason it failed was because it didn't have the audience's best interest in mind.
I said it because you argued against my argument that alot of companies go againt their target audience and still make money like riot games making characters gay.
>Dark Souls was played by normies
yes it was normalgay, I would understand if you said oblivion, but dark souls 1 was clearly played by the normalgay type, not the normie type yet. It exploded for fromsoftware >Namco Bandai's yearly financial report stated that the game sold 1.19 million units in the United States and Europe by March 2012. FromSoftware announced in April 2013 that the game had sold 2.37 million units worldwide
and you call that not a smash hit. It exploded even firther in dark souls 2 and then in 3 throught advertising. The myth you heard from vatty is a marketting trick and he didnt even hide he was shilling for dark souls 2, other content creators were also invited to conferences about the game. >eah, turns out that games aren't made of sunshine and air and that they need to make a profit to keep the studio running. It also helps that profit is a very easily quantifiable measure of success. >le ITS DA REAL WORLD KID tier argument
I said it shows a very limited and distorted view of reallity and that can be very harmful if not dangerous. >Bethesda and EA don't "do everything"
Bethesda does that, well not to extremes, but they are getting there, they still actually face hardware limitations. Ea doesnt do everything, they milk normies. >casual open-world gamers
get a load of this homosexual. >And you're saying those don't have passionate players? Those games rely a lot on whales who spend ludicrous amounts of money on them. >Typical low IQ Ganker post that doesn't understand the content presented and automatically hates it.
They help too, but for the massive games like genshin or league the average player is very important. And whales can be easily pleased as seen what games they spend their money on. >Which has nothing to do with the video.
He cited an example of a company that didnt do that and failed.
normalgay plays games but usually sticks to popular stuff. Normies dont play games except if they are shit like fifa or league of legends or gta v, ie super popular, they probably wouldnt have heard about skyrim if it wasnt for the memes.
2 years ago
Anonymous
"Normie" is just a more cancerous version of "normalgay", they mean exactly the same thing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
this, normie is a non-offensive word used by redditors
Everyone talks about "that" article with "SMT IV: the Dark Souls of Persona games", but "Dragon's Dogma: the Dark Souls of fantasy games" from the same article was clearly the more moronic take.
>The Dark Souls of Fantasy RPGs
I refuse to believe that this is real or genuine, you cant write this shit and not realize how fricking moronic you sound, this is some golden bait and it has managed to hook me.
Also LLTQ is cool but it's not hard, just tedious. The game expects you to take a notepad and write everything down, for a lifesim/training game it doesnt have much freedom because there are many roadblocks that you need to adapt to so instead of making the Queen you want you end up micromanaging every Week into what helps her survive.
Did this person even play SMT IV? The whole story is spelled out for you by the end, there are no "breadcrumbs" or stuff the player has to connect the dots together. Just because it doesnt tell you everything there is to know in the first 20 hours doesnt mean it wanted you to be oblivious to everything that is not the main plot points. >LLTQ works the exact same way, only in a visual novel sort of way
STOP CALLING VISUAL NOVELS THINGS THAT ARE NOT VISUALS NOVEL YOU ULTRA homosexualS
>Game that is unrelated to dark souls >"soulslike difficulty"
You fricking homosexual moron Alisa dev. Your game could have been fricking great but you're a fricking moron who thinks that bullshit enemies means soulslike. Bullshit enemies means your game fricking sucks you c**t
i wish something would come along and revolutionize it again.
i-frames have become boring. monster hunter has better combat and boss fights but no one is copying it.
You have only yourself to blame for needing tl's. Those are always rewriting fanfics because the translators always think they know better than the writers and it's their duty to "fix" things.
I like deckbuilders but my problem with them is a lot of the time its more optimal to just never add cards save for a few key ones you find until you have a repetitive hand each turn
Which goes against the entire concept and fantasy of deckbuilding
I can't wait until Fromsoft release a new Armored Core game and people go "its dark souls but with mechs" despite Armored Core series coming before all the Souls games.
>Dark Souls needs an easy mode, here's why >homosexuals can't even take the time to look up a soul duping glitch for their version, most are probably playing remastered which has one that you can do in about an hour of casual play
DS1 isn't even a hard game, but it's so simple to do I'm shocked they don't just cheat.
>Negative review of a game that has absolutely nothing to do with Souls >"As a Souls veteran I'm not stranger to hard games. But this game is just too hard in an artificial way..."
Dark Souls is essentially the normalgay hurdle to being a "hardcore gamer" because it requires some minor forethought rather than just being a story mode game than can be breezed through or another game where you have a clearly visible casual difficulty mode. You gotta state that you beat it in order to prove your credibility to the masses. It's also why people want the bars set even lower then they already are.
there was that one indie game. It had its name in brackets like these []. I removed the demo from my libraly, so its hard to find it. It also had >thanks to the haunted ps1 community
why is namegayging not cracked down on?
surely the small amount of utility the name field provides is outweighed by the massive homosexualry it produces
No, there's not.
I'm wondering why no such rule was ever made, given unjustified, constant tripgays whose posts consistently go gratingly against site culture for the sake of asserting individuality on an anonymous imageboard have been a problem for forever.
>It's another archaic dinosaur game from Japan but sequel #14! Remember when you were a kid and played this same game with no meaningful gameplay changes?
>The Dark Souls of...
Only zoomers talk like this.
What they mean by "the dark souls of" is just how video games used to be, maybe even worse since you would run out of lives and continues and have to restart the whole thing.
Frick zoomers and frick reddit.
>its the Dark Souls of Dark Souls
That'd be Dar Souls 2 in the "wrongly common use of the term by idiots"
Literally dark souls 3
>Halo-killer
>years later Halo died via suicide.
Funny how that works.
Its funny how darksouls mindbroke easymode normalgays. Since part of their own kind turned on them when it came to difficulty
same with WOW
Suicide is the only way big brands can actually die.
Don't like don't watch/buy is the single most moronic thing a company can tell their audience. Just look at RT
All good things decay over time.
Didn't CoD basically do it? At least grew far more popular. Different kind of FPS I know.
Not really.
Halo was still extremely popular as CoD was coming out. I think Halo 3 was the most popular console fps period.
I don't think CoD's existence ever hurt Halo beyond Halo trying to sadly copy it starting with 4 and above which ended up leading to its public suicide with Infinite.
>I think Halo 3 was the most popular console fps period.
this
nothing will surpass this metric
>that one lone gamer in south africa
>that one lone gamer in the canary islands
It's weird that there weren't more players in northern Mexico. I guess everyone was busy running away from the cartels.
It was so popular that mara salvatrucha used the voice chat to share Intel on their foreigner cells.
Halo killer means sony exclusive shooter that would stop people buying xbox. It was supposed to be Killzone, then Resistance, then Haze.
CoD didnt compete directly with Halo, Halo 3 was the best selling game and released the same year as CoD4
Didn't the original modern warfare 2 outsell it though? At least more than Reach.
Halo died in reach, what 343 did can’t count as halo therefore, halo killed halo
>WoW killer
>every single new MMO released after 2006 got hyped up as "wow killer"
>none of them killed wow
>none of them even put a dent in wow's subscription numbers
WoW slowly killed itself with shitty decisions, casualization of the game and replacing all the devs with diversity hires
FFXIV actually killed wow.
Wow killed wow. FFXIV just happened to be the next best thing
hahaha ok bro
>hahaha look at this dance I bought
FFXIV zoomers are cancer
Delusion.
WoW killed itself
cope
>from dumpster fire to WoWkiller
Is there a greatest comeback in video game industry than this?
No Mans Sky, kinda
It's still a grindy survival game but it's change a lot in the past few years
WoW killed itself but FF14 prevented a lot of gamers from coming back like battered housewives
It's true
Then what is the anal vore equivalent?
Same thing
Dark Souls 2
You are 5 years late, nobody says this unironically anymore
What is the Dark Souls of sex?
piledriver
Full nelson
Missionary
trying to last long after a dry spell
bbc
Tinder.
BMWF
happy marrige of 25 years
>wow killer
>SOULSLIKEMETROIDROGUEVANIA.
>Metroidvania
>No Metroid influences, it's just a Castlevania clone
what makes a game METROIDvania insted of Castlevania clone?
by being more like METROID and not Castlevania?
Permanent upgrades and no limit to using said upgrades beyond ammunition
Alot of "metroidvanias" have the rpg elements of leveling up, only being able to equip certain things at any given time and such.
also a shit ton of mobility upgrades
Shooting. Castlevania is melee.
Why do these make so many "people" seethe?
Dark Souls is overrated
it kinda is, but it's still a good game. I hated Elden Ring and went back to DaS1 to see if my opinion of the game had changed but no, I still like it, it's an enjoyable game despite its flaws. DaS2 sucked, DaS3 felt like a parody of a Souls game, and Elden Ring felt like a parody of a parody of a Souls game.
what's wrong with ds2 and ds3
DaS2 feels like a chinese knockoff, the animations alone are really off-putting
DaS1 is the only one with an interconnected world that is actually interesting to explore, DaS2's world design is less interesting, DaS3 is straight up on-rails linear garbage, and Elden Ring does the complete opposite and spreads itself too thin in a huge open world that is a chore to traverse.
why can't they go just back to DaS1's world design one more time?
>>why can't they go just back to DaS1's world design one more time?
Because mitsubishi sama knows better than you. With Elden Ring's success, I think the garbage open world is here to stay
They are all the same game, broslice
except 2 and 3 are worse
Sorry homeguy, but 2 is the greatest game ever made. You can jot that down on Notepad.
Yeah, but in an age of shit it is a slice of pie
>it's like x but y
Literally 99% of indies
That's why I don't like indies.
S..shut up!
>tfw making BoI but its bad
i love her
>from the producers of that other game
>comes a new game made by that other studio
>comes on all new twist on an all ready played out genre
>but this time its different
>it's like that one game but better!
>"its other game killer!" some website
>"like another game but more awesome!" another website
>winner of over 500 trade show awards even though the game isn't yet
>winner of 200 awards at other award show (game still isn't out yet)
>this fall
>THE
>GAME
>IS
>CHANGED
>FOREVER
>pre-order now
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>comes on all new twist on an all ready played out genre*
*it's not actually new or original.
>Dude X is one of the hardest games I've ever played, and I've played Dark Souls.
>I've played Dark Souls, but (even easier game) is just too hard
What game?
>i think we've kinda made the dark souls of competitive first person shooters
I never really got this meme.
Complaining about an rpg being inspired by earthbound is like complaining a 2d shooter is inspired by doom, or a arcade racer being inspired by mariokart, or a 3d platformer inspired by crash
They are obviously going to run off what is a gem in the genre, you would be moronic not to.
At best you are just malding over a dumb quote when really all they mean is - This is a 2d party based rpg
A lot of the games that are lumped into the genre don't even follow the name of the genre anyways. MortisGhost didn't even play Earthbound before making OFF. Nightmargin didn't even like Earthbound before making Oneshot. Oneshot isn't even an RPG. Therefore, this meme is moronic and every person that uses this meme unironically are also moronic.
All memes are moronic.
Nah. Calling everything "just like Dark Souls" as a meme is not that moronic because it's making fun of journos who say the same thing. Also making fun of the insane amount of roguelikes is another good example.
Thats moronic.
I bet you made one of those games and that's why you are assmad about it.
I wish.
Im just tired of the same moronic memes and shitposts
Open world
Early access
Survival crafting
Ah, 2014
>it's not child porn! i-it's just a drawing!
this but unironically and without the homosexual stuttering
see pic
>It's a good game but not a good x-franchise game
I don't really see what's wrong with this, if a sequel turns out to be a genuinely good game and its only major fault is that it distanced itself from its prequels due to either the usual type of gameplay or other patterns does it really reserve to be called a bad game?
If it fails at being a sequel to the franchise then it fails its purpose. I keep seeing this shitty argument for games like RE6.
They don't really care about the games, they just want to feel like they belong to a community and they want it to be immutable because autists and morons fear change. If a game breaks the mold they would rather b***h and whine rather than finding new games within the same genre.
Yes. DmC
The Dark Souls of Walking Simulators
>Pokemon killer
>the [CONSOLE]'s killer app
literally no one says killer app anymore.
>Dark Souls is the IKEA of video games
Actually a very interesting talk on the similarities between IKEA and Dark Souls.
Based. I watched it. Quite interesting elaboration on the success of dork souls
There's essentially a entire new wave of people, whether they be normal players or people who reviewing games on official platforms, whose only frame of reference of anything is Dark Souls. It's fricking insane.
Just think, some moron reviewer reviewing games on a big platform like IGN and his only exposure to anything related to ARPGs or action games is Dark Souls. That morons opinion will contribute to a game's success or failure.
Ok. Your post has nothing to do with the video though.
The video is about the success of dark souls and its similarities to the business model of IKEA. It's about why dark souls is like IKEA, not why other games are like dark souls.
this fricking baffoon only explained in a limited distorted profit point of view.
Dark souls is not hardcore nor deep, it was marketed so. Bandai namco did it, they marketed the game as so hardcore shit to normalgays who barely played games to make them think they were playing some hardcore game, the easy games around the time were the normagay shit.
Fromsoftware kept making the same game for 30 years which comes from the genre of drpgs which traditionally were difficult. And even then it isnt that hard. The story is a bunch of stickynotes that hide the lack od depth. The thing it got normeis to enjoy was the hypnotizing hyperfocused bossfights and the way it handles bossfights, that fricking message of you killing the boss along with the sound fricking domesticated fromdrones.
Frick hardcore players dont even play dark souls, normies and normalgays do it.
And you can do everything and get success from everyone, bethesda proved it, well the psedo-intellectuals hate them, but they dont play games anyway so.
And the thing about passionate players is wrong too, becasue fifa, mobile games and the like keep printing companies money.
and alot of companies go against the players interest and still make money.
Also dark souls was around the difficulty normalgay could play and they could grind to make the game easier anyway.
Frick remember those ecelebs praising dark souls that you could grind in it, you know the thing present in rpgs since their inception and many more types of game, the absolute state.
You sound mad. Also didn't get the point of the video. Room temperature IQ. And saying Dark Souls was played by normies marks you as underaged who doesn't remember that Dark Souls wasn't a smash hit but slowly gained popularity over time mainly through fan content.
>this fricking baffoon only explained in a limited distorted profit point of view.
Yeah, turns out that games aren't made of sunshine and air and that they need to make a profit to keep the studio running. It also helps that profit is a very easily quantifiable measure of success.
Bethesda and EA don't "do everything" they also successfully pander to specific audiences. Just happens to be that those audiences are much larger then what Dark Souls panders to (casual open-world gamers and sports fans).
>And the thing about passionate players is wrong too, becasue fifa, mobile games and the like keep printing companies money.
And you're saying those don't have passionate players? Those games rely a lot on whales who spend ludicrous amounts of money on them.
Typical low IQ Ganker post that doesn't understand the content presented and automatically hates it.
>and alot of companies go against the players interest and still make money.
Which has nothing to do with the video. Did the guy ever mention that? No. His point is that you can find success by focussing on a target audience and saving on costs by excluding things that target audience wouldn't care about anyways. He doesn't say that this is the only way to find success either btw. Just that it's a way of finding success.
>This much anger because people disagreed with your video
Kek, try shilling it on some other website next time.
Nah. Just pointing out that your post was utterly moronic. Welcome to Ganker, we laugh at moronic people here.
Like. How did you even get it through your head that Bethesda does everything with their games? They very obviously don't. It's why you don't like them. Skyrim and Fallout don't have the depth a game with the title RPG would traditionally have. They very clearly traded mechanical and narrative depth to target a casual open-world gamer audience.
>Sales figures
Dark souls was released in september 2011
1.2 millions copies in half a year is NOT smash hit material. Compare it to skyrim that sold 3.5 million copies in two fricking days.
Portal 2 sold 4 million copies before march 2012.
Batman: Arkham City sold 4.6 in 2011.
>distorted view of reallity and that can be very harmful if not dangerous.
Based on what? Your word. I don't listen to morons. Besides, dark souls is also clearly a success on nearly every other metric like influence of the gaming industry, sequels made, and how well known it is. The guy in the video only had 30 minutes for his talk. He isn't going to mention literally everything.
>Bethesda does everything
No it doesnt. They sacrificed depth for quantity with skyrim and fallout.
>EA does everything
Yeah, their games totally don't ship with bugs and the FIFA games absolutely don't have content cut from them since the previous installment. But you're now just gonna think of some dumb reason to dismiss this because that fits your narrative better.
>get a load of this homosexual.
Mad cuz wrong
>massive games like genshin or league the average player is very important
What the frick is "the average player"? Once again proving yourself underage by forgetting that League didn't start out as some massive title but instead gained popularity over time. And league has always targeted a competitive audience.
>Cited
Continental? He didn't say the reason it failed was because it didn't have the audience's best interest in mind.
>Just pointing out that your post was utterly moronic
>When I'm not even the guy you're arguing with
Again, try shilling your videos on some other website next time.
>Muh shilling
Posting on-topic content that actually fits the thread subject is forbidden on Ganker I forgot lol
You're right but you're trying to argue with a moron and a shitposter
Tanksies
>kek
No argument lol
For videogames 1.2 million copies in half a year is just not a smash hit. Video games are incredibly expensive to make in general.
>>ITS ONLY POPULAR IF ALL THE NORMALgayS I DONT LIKE TALK ABOUT IT
Borderline schizo.
>I dont need social standing
Bet you don't have any either. Also "muh shilling" isn't even an argument here since that guy is literally some rando developer who wanted to do a talk or something he liked. He doesn't have a youtube channel or something and he didn't get paid to be there.
>what I said can be said in less than 5 minutes.
Jup, 5 more minutes that he doesn't need to spend on bullshit that doesn't matter to the subject of his presentation. Have you ever held a presentation before anon? Here's a tip. Don't get side tracked.
>Calling darksouls and skyrim deep in the same post
I literally didn't. Schizo.
>Lol didn't shill to competitive players
Historic revisionism
>I said it
You just admitted to lying
I also never said that companies don't benefit from their audience by abusing them. Third schizo moment.
Room temperature IQ was being generous. You're in the single digits.
And some constructive criticism. I didn't post that video because I thought the dude is some kind of prophet who is completely correct about everything. And neither does that guy think or act like he's correct about everything. It's just an interesting observation on the similarities between the business model of dark souls and IKEA. Neither me, or that guy, said that the methods described are the only way of finding success, nor a guaranteed way of finding success. Please. When you watch / listen / read something actually pay attention to what is being said instead of whatever it is that you do when you watch something. Decide what you think about it beforehand and construct some kind of narrative to fit that, is that what you do?
>For videogames 1.2 million copies in half a year is just not a smash hit.
this homosexual
NOT EVERY GAME NEEDS TO SELL TEN BAJILLION COPIES
you are not getting proper picture of gameas if you are only looking at the most popular and marketed ones. Especially since dark souls 1 was a big step up for fromsoftware
>inb4 word of mouth
the series got their sales boost with new games
>inb4 obvious
from ds1 1.5-2.5 million sales to ds2 3-5 million sales and then ds3 3-10 million sales. It is not word of mouth. They marketed it as harcore to normalgays when it was a casual action game.
>take meds shizo
go back
>Bet you don't have any either
again go back
>rando developer
he is shilling his website and companies and advertising his business partners
>Historic revisionism
how exactly?
It is currently focusing on the chinese and average player.
>Ea doesnt do everything, they milk normies.
>EA does everything
>I said the opposite
>You just admitted to lying
are you ok?
>also never said that companies don't benefit from their audience by abusing them. Third schizo moment.
how does riot benefit from the chinese by making graves and twisted fate gay?
>ad hominems
>le why criticize
I gave criticism.
>1.2 millions copies in half a year is NOT smash hit material.
kek
>ITS ONLY POPULAR IF ALL THE NORMALgayS I DONT LIKE TALK ABOUT IT
>Based on what?
my arguments I dont need social standing like that c**t to support my arguments, also as
said shill it somewhere else as it would fall apart when it is not in normalgay audience and has to stand by its arguments alone.
>he guy in the video only had 30 minutes for his talk. He isn't going to mention literally everything.
what I said can be said in less than 5 minutes.
>No it doesnt. They sacrificed depth for quantity with skyrim and fallout.
>calling dark souls deep and tes or fo not deep in the same post
are you for real?
Have not read even a little bit of lore?
Mechanical knowledge is not depth, combos requare no thought. Or are you one of those that say that skyrim isnt and rpg? You should change the shilling material again. Does replacing usual rpg stats for stats that you have to raise or using perks for damage increase instead of stats unmake a rpg?
>EA does everything
I said the opposite
> And league has always targeted a competitive audience.
LMAO this homosexual, I only started to shill a bit to egays in season 3-4, past that they stopped. You can see it in their newer champions, you dont have to actually the shit they do to get fed, aphellios is a clear example. And they fricked over le proffesional players in season 5 in the jiggernaut rework. And most new skins are made for easy and popular champions and to pander to the chinese, like kaisa, yasuo, lux, ezreal. I didnt say they started big, I said that they have a focus on the average player and surprisingly he does spend alot, for an average player.
>Continental? He didn't say the reason it failed was because it didn't have the audience's best interest in mind.
I said it because you argued against my argument that alot of companies go againt their target audience and still make money like riot games making characters gay.
>Dark Souls was played by normies
yes it was normalgay, I would understand if you said oblivion, but dark souls 1 was clearly played by the normalgay type, not the normie type yet. It exploded for fromsoftware
>Namco Bandai's yearly financial report stated that the game sold 1.19 million units in the United States and Europe by March 2012. FromSoftware announced in April 2013 that the game had sold 2.37 million units worldwide
and you call that not a smash hit. It exploded even firther in dark souls 2 and then in 3 throught advertising. The myth you heard from vatty is a marketting trick and he didnt even hide he was shilling for dark souls 2, other content creators were also invited to conferences about the game.
>eah, turns out that games aren't made of sunshine and air and that they need to make a profit to keep the studio running. It also helps that profit is a very easily quantifiable measure of success.
>le ITS DA REAL WORLD KID tier argument
I said it shows a very limited and distorted view of reallity and that can be very harmful if not dangerous.
>Bethesda and EA don't "do everything"
Bethesda does that, well not to extremes, but they are getting there, they still actually face hardware limitations. Ea doesnt do everything, they milk normies.
>casual open-world gamers
get a load of this homosexual.
>And you're saying those don't have passionate players? Those games rely a lot on whales who spend ludicrous amounts of money on them.
>Typical low IQ Ganker post that doesn't understand the content presented and automatically hates it.
They help too, but for the massive games like genshin or league the average player is very important. And whales can be easily pleased as seen what games they spend their money on.
>Which has nothing to do with the video.
He cited an example of a company that didnt do that and failed.
>clearly played by the normalgay type, not the normie type
what in the actual frick are you talking about
normalgay plays games but usually sticks to popular stuff. Normies dont play games except if they are shit like fifa or league of legends or gta v, ie super popular, they probably wouldnt have heard about skyrim if it wasnt for the memes.
"Normie" is just a more cancerous version of "normalgay", they mean exactly the same thing.
this, normie is a non-offensive word used by redditors
>It's a quirky indie 2D rpg inspired by Earthbound
so it's an overrated game with built in timewasting. got it
Every game is overrated, so what's your point.
>roguelike deckbuilder
>cinematic
>from the creators of [GAME]
>only 3 people worked on [GAME]
>the rest are completely different people
Back 4 blood
>the 3 people that did work on [GAME] either had very minor roles or did nothing at all
I would say Back 4 Blood, but
already said it.
cyberpunk
what's the aeon flux (the animated series) of video games?
It's a kind of slay the spire vampire survivors/bullet heaven soulsbornelike autobattler metroguevania lite
Dark Souls 1 is the Dark Souls of Souls games.
>Souls-like metroidvania about a spreading corruption.
>game pre 2011
>"its like dark souls but-"
It's like Dark Souls but good
Name 1 game.
None.
Demon souls.
Nioh and Bloodborne.
Nioh, Nioh 2, Bloodborne, Demons Souls, Blasphemous and -debatable- The Surge 2.
>Its like dark souls but on the N64
Why cant people just admit to themself they like a bad game without mental gymnastics like this...
Everyone talks about "that" article with "SMT IV: the Dark Souls of Persona games", but "Dragon's Dogma: the Dark Souls of fantasy games" from the same article was clearly the more moronic take.
>soulsbornekiroring-like
I fricking hate the word: Souls like
Its just an action game with a stamina bar
>Fast-paced movement focused retro boomer shooter
It's like Skyrim with guns!
Aeon Flux is the Dark Souls of Western animation.
Aeon Flux is the Life on Mars of western animation.
Gentlemen, I present to you the Dark Souls of vidya journalism.
He's right about everything
>The Dark Souls of Action RPGS
>The Dark Souls of Fantasy RPGS
>The Dark Souls of Persona Games
This is satire right?
cool, now i know to avoid every one of those games
What games do you play, anon?
minesweeper
the CIA is the dark souls of journalism
>SMT 4 is the dark souls of PERSONA GAMES
>The Dark Souls of Fantasy RPGs
I refuse to believe that this is real or genuine, you cant write this shit and not realize how fricking moronic you sound, this is some golden bait and it has managed to hook me.
Also LLTQ is cool but it's not hard, just tedious. The game expects you to take a notepad and write everything down, for a lifesim/training game it doesnt have much freedom because there are many roadblocks that you need to adapt to so instead of making the Queen you want you end up micromanaging every Week into what helps her survive.
Did this person even play SMT IV? The whole story is spelled out for you by the end, there are no "breadcrumbs" or stuff the player has to connect the dots together. Just because it doesnt tell you everything there is to know in the first 20 hours doesnt mean it wanted you to be oblivious to everything that is not the main plot points.
>LLTQ works the exact same way, only in a visual novel sort of way
STOP CALLING VISUAL NOVELS THINGS THAT ARE NOT VISUALS NOVEL YOU ULTRA homosexualS
Elden Ring is the Dark Souls of Fromsoft games
>Genshin killer
>THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT
>-esque
>Game that is unrelated to dark souls
>"soulslike difficulty"
You fricking homosexual moron Alisa dev. Your game could have been fricking great but you're a fricking moron who thinks that bullshit enemies means soulslike. Bullshit enemies means your game fricking sucks you c**t
Dark Souls revolutionized gaming, get over it.
i wish something would come along and revolutionize it again.
i-frames have become boring. monster hunter has better combat and boss fights but no one is copying it.
Now if only the games weren't filled with grind, monsters designed with multiplayer in mind, and FOMO mechanics
hahaha
you mad?
You have only yourself to blame for needing tl's. Those are always rewriting fanfics because the translators always think they know better than the writers and it's their duty to "fix" things.
>we're going back to the roots
>Dead rising 4
My suffering is great.
>deck building gameplay
Always a hard pass for me
No exceptions
Don't even try to recommend shit to me
I like deckbuilders but my problem with them is a lot of the time its more optimal to just never add cards save for a few key ones you find until you have a repetitive hand each turn
Which goes against the entire concept and fantasy of deckbuilding
Megaman Battlenetwork is sort of a deck building game but it's actually good
Thanks fot the heads up, that's another hard pass.
Your loss
I can't wait until Fromsoft release a new Armored Core game and people go "its dark souls but with mechs" despite Armored Core series coming before all the Souls games.
>female protagonist in not a little girl
>Dark Souls needs an easy mode, here's why
>homosexuals can't even take the time to look up a soul duping glitch for their version, most are probably playing remastered which has one that you can do in about an hour of casual play
DS1 isn't even a hard game, but it's so simple to do I'm shocked they don't just cheat.
>Negative review of a game that has absolutely nothing to do with Souls
>"As a Souls veteran I'm not stranger to hard games. But this game is just too hard in an artificial way..."
Dark Souls is essentially the normalgay hurdle to being a "hardcore gamer" because it requires some minor forethought rather than just being a story mode game than can be breezed through or another game where you have a clearly visible casual difficulty mode. You gotta state that you beat it in order to prove your credibility to the masses. It's also why people want the bars set even lower then they already are.
>citizen kane of dark souls
>It's the Dark Souls of Threads about "It's the Dark Souls of threads"
Black Souls
>Indie Horror Game
>"Our game was inspired by Resident Evil/Silent Hill."
it gets worse when the dev has their twitter in the game and even worse when they have shit like trans rights or blm in their tweets.
Trans rights are human rights and black lives matter, anon.
All lives won't matter until black lives matter. Well said, fellow sister! Let's educate these chuds.
>when the dev has their twitter in the game
what?
there was that one indie game. It had its name in brackets like these []. I removed the demo from my libraly, so its hard to find it. It also had
>thanks to the haunted ps1 community
I mean it is a horror game
Resident Evil sold over 100 million copies.
>inspired by earthbound
Why do men coom when they see white people roll their eyes wtf
why is namegayging not cracked down on?
surely the small amount of utility the name field provides is outweighed by the massive homosexualry it produces
wtf?
There is some global rule about posting with a name?
No, there's not.
I'm wondering why no such rule was ever made, given unjustified, constant tripgays whose posts consistently go gratingly against site culture for the sake of asserting individuality on an anonymous imageboard have been a problem for forever.
shut the FRICK up
No ones talking, we are typing. There is no sound.
Dark Souls of sex games
>It's another archaic dinosaur game from Japan but sequel #14! Remember when you were a kid and played this same game with no meaningful gameplay changes?
>minecraft with guns
>it's like GTA but..
>*shows gameplay of a guy just walking around*
>The Dark Souls of...
Only zoomers talk like this.
What they mean by "the dark souls of" is just how video games used to be, maybe even worse since you would run out of lives and continues and have to restart the whole thing.
Frick zoomers and frick reddit.
>Oblivion with Guns
>character action game
For all those Dark Souls naysayers, what's an actually hard game to you?
Dark souls hater here
Looking at naked women is extremely difficult and borderline traumatic for me.
Darks souls is a reddit game to begin with
it's a difficult game for people who don't play that many games
it's like turn-based if the stamina allows you to hit enemies once or twice before having to dodge again
it's like those people who say the room is the worst movie ever, WHICH IT'S AMONG THEM, but there are BIGGER PIECES OF SHIT movies.