It's unironically even better than when i read it as a 16 year old 10 years ago. Twilight for boys is still great
In case you didn't know, Arc route is fully translated and playable at the moment
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It's the same shit as it was in the original with the same ending except you can't even get the good ending this time
who gives a frick
challenge: try to strike the pose in the OP, fingers in the same position
Is that the power of the True Ancestors?
>no granny skirt
Sorry, not interested
objective flaw but when absolutely everything else is a huge improvement it's easy to ignore
>absolutely everything else
No double hairvents
>but when absolutely everything else is a huge improvement it's easy to ignore
Which isn't in this case at all
The granny skirt is her final form in the remake
>ciel route only
who cares
really? any screencaps?
I don't mind her losing the skirt, the real problem for me is that they changed her hairstyle.
The arc route translation isn't out until the 16th though?
>twilight for boys
ONE MUSCULAR AND ATHLETIC NATIVE AMERICAN WEREWOLF GF PLS
Okay I get it now
>Stephanie Meyer writes a battle shounen
My b, a battle harem*
Wait this sounds great, should I read it?
it's considered one of the best visual novels out there and on top of that the remake has amazing production values and music so absolutely go for it
Stephanie Meyer wrote a visual novel?
Honestly not really.
No, but if there was in fact a gender swapped Twilight then I'd definitely read it.
Anon, it exists. That image isn't a shitpost, she actually wrote it.
>he doesn't know
You wouldn't believe me, but it's a real book
I read Twilight and it was okay. Maybe genderswap makes it kino.
I've read it and even though it's pretty much the same thing there's some hilarious moments here and there and the ending it's completely different.
I don't get it. The first movie bored the frick out of me and this b***h literally needed half of the movie to figure out Edward is a vampire. Changing him to a chick would do nothing.
make it anime, add a few pantyshots and give her big boobs and you'd eat this shit up like the moronic weeb you are
No.
It doesn’t work because an internally conflicted vampire girl is not appealing.
I would read something like that. I DO read stuff like that, and I post about it on Ganker. But I don't let people in my life know that I read stuff like that. That's the real difference between Twilight and stuff like Tsukihime, Rosario Vampire, or Monster Musume.
>monstergirl haremshit
Nah
I'd probably read it if any of you shared a pdf of the book. But otherwise I'll probably do fine without having read reverseTwilight.
Yeah but could Arc beat Romulus? I don't think she could.
Nothing can defeat the physical personification of Roma
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>underage in 20 fricking 12
Lord, sometimes I forget how many young people are now on this board. It seems like just yesterday we had the 08 controversy when kids born in 1990 could start posting, or at least not hide their age.
not OP, but I'm 23 rn. I arrived just before I think the first wave of election tourists did, so you could probably count me in them.
holy moly
op here, 26 is above average on Ganker
I don't believe you. Average is like 30
The average is anons in their 30s. They just don't post much because there's not much of a point unless they actually have something on their mind.
I was leaving middle school in 2012, I'm now 23
I'm 29, I remember feeling like I was the youngest person here in 2010.
NotMyArc
Noel route when
i never played or watched anything fateshit
tbh turkeyhandle is good because it's schizofiction with a helping of dicky
would never dare playing it in translation though way to miss the point of chuunige
Far side >>>>>>> Near side
Unless the Far side takes a long while I'll probably just wait until it's released and fully translated, because it's what made Tsukihime for me
According to the man himself, you should think of waiting for the sequel like waiting for the next olympics.
4 years then?
I can wait, the remake took like 15
He didn't specify which olympics and it wasn't the one in winter, so I'm thinking more like the next time they're held in Japan.
they belong together in the end
they added gore however
>they added gore however
Who cares about gore? I want my mollusks damn it
They removed the porn right? What's even the point if I can't laugh at Nasu's shitty sex scenes?
>Arc route is fully translated and playable at the moment
not machine translated. it's fully translated and spell checked and everything.
The last time you guys said something wasn't MTL i bought it and find out it really was, im not believing any of you anymore, before white album that guy translating walkure romanze did the same shit.
What's wrong with that sentence?
I agree to some extent things don't seem to be that ideal here since the main translator for the Arc route is a guy that lives in South Korea who just happens to know English and Japanese. However, you're delusional and expect perfection and non-commercial translation even with translator-editors will never hit that with any sort of consistency outside of once in a blue moon. When top rated non-commercial works like FSN, Muv-Luv Alternative, and even seeing how some commercial works like Rewrite get released, conflating MTL with amateur mistakes is disingenuous at best.
It's a product of its time. You have to realize as a doujin group Type Moon being able to make Tsukihime was a huge shock to the VN industry at the time which had by and large wasn't pumping out masterpieces like YUNO everywhere and a lot were inferior to what was released. It is akin to Hellblade: Senua's Sacrifice being able to match AAA games.
Who here did ciel's route first by pure chance? I literally stumbled into it blind. Was quite weird.
>Arc route is fully translated and playable at the moment
Black person if I didn't want freedom of choice I would pick up a book
>MTL
No thanks unless a team of 6 basement dwellers laboured their blood and sweat to translate a Chinese PowerPoint I don't want it
What about around 20 basement dwellers?
https://tsukihimates.com/progress/
Why would anyone play an early 2000's VN in anything other the original winxp exe, downloaded from an antiquated fan site and translated via a shady patch?
>Arc route is fully translated and playable at the moment
stupid arcposter, it releases in 5 days
should i play the og version or wait for the game to get translated? how well does it run on the switch emulators?
Never play a remake/remaster/rerelease made after 2010.
no point in playing the og, the remake is simply better.
it officially releases in 5 days but it's already done and playable pretty much
if I can't play it right now it might as well not exist
you can play it right now, go on the website and download the latest build off GitHub. there, you can play the remake. no spelling mistakes, no machine translation, everything good.
How do you build a patch from the source code?
There's no instructions on the GitHub page
download the previous patch off the website and then in 5 days download the full patch
>download the latest build off GitHub
You can only download the source files
https://github.com/Hakanaou/deepLuna
The remake is really easy to run in an emulator.
Weird, I reread it 3 years ago and actually didn't like anything.
It's generally overrated. There's a reason why it's the last type-moon game to be remade. It's not bad but it's not really a masterpiece, either.
It certainly isn't perfect but I definitely has its charm and I'd say its about on par with F/SN for me, and certainly than what I've watched of KnK
certainly better*
FSN is much superior in its themes and structure, shirou is a million times more interesting as a character than shirou and the villains are much superior in fate. but fate has 2 hours cooking scenes which tsukihime does not.
>shirou is a million times more interesting as a character than shirou
I mean shiki lmao. shiki is just a normal guy with no personality who happens to have a crazy bloodline and crazy eyes.
Yeah I know lol
>shiki is just a normal guy with no personality who happens to have a crazy bloodline and crazy eyes
yeah and he's also a bit fricked in the head
>the villains are much superior in fate
Tsukihime didn't really have 'villains' in the same sense
Also Kirei was the only decent villain in FSN (and one the best characters)
>but fate has 2 hours cooking scenes which tsukihime does not
that's my problem with FSN, the writing is way too bloated
The text could be half as long, and still contain the best part of Shirou's monologues as well as accurately convey the action and emotion
People say FSN is longer than Lord of the Rings as if its some well-written epic, when the truth is it reads like an amateur novel without an editor
Tsukihime's writing isn't perfect either but I found the pacing way better
No joke, the only reason TYPE-MOON exists is because Takeuchi took Nasu aside, told him "Stop wasting your talents and write a proper novel. I'll support you." First actual Nasuverse work was Mahoyo in 1996, Takeuchi even had concept art done in 1997 as the first official piece of media related to Nasu's later works. So they started a website together on which Nasu started his webnovel "Kara no Kyoukai". But the site wasn't getting much traffic, so Takeuchi said "let's make a VN as advertisement fo KnK". So they moved in together and Takeuchi had Nasu write full time while Takeuchi would work to support them both, while in the evenings he'd work on the art. The only qualification that Takeuchi enforced for inducting members into their circle was being able to get along well with Nasu. And then he turned TYPE-MOON into a full legal company purely as a vehicle for Nasu to write more novels.
Tsukihime was released during the 1999 summer Comiket, where only 300 copies were distributed (for free, on 3.5 floppy disks).
F/SN was the first work Type Moon released as a company rather than as a doujin work, which attracted an entirely new audience. Type Moon's original plan was for a two-part release with only first part being named Fate/Stay Night. This part was supposed to include only the Saber and Rin routes and was the "Near side" of the Fate story. The second part would have been released later under title "Fate/Other Night" and was supposed to include Sakura's and Illya's routes, essentially being the "Far Side" of Fate. Simply put HF as you know it today is mixture of original Sakura's and Illya's routes. He recycled the scenes he had written for FHA. They wanted to reuse the structure Tsukihime had.
F/SN was to Tsukihime what FGO is to F/SN. Shirou's story wasn't even in his head when he thought fate, he just wanted King Arthur seeking the Holy Grail and making him fight other heroes.
>Tsukihime was released during the 1999 summer Comiket, where only 300 copies were distributed
Don't forget about Melty Blood. Although Tsukihime had a small start, it definitely attracted an audience, including other doujin circles. They had their own circle of fans before Fate came around and really blew them up, and Tsukihime slowly faded into irrelevancy (but is still a major part of the company's history).
Shiki is still very cool. I wouldn't describe him as a masterwork MC like Shirou, especially in regards that he's much more of an ordinary "relatable" character, but any facades of him actually being normal or "just like me" will quickly dissipate. He's a mental case with a warped view of the world much like all of Nasu's MCs.
>Shiki is still very cool. I wouldn't describe him as a masterwork MC like Shirou, especially in regards that he's much more of an ordinary "relatable" character, but any facades of him actually being normal or "just like me" will quickly dissipate. He's a mental case with a warped view of the world much like all of Nasu's MCs.
The ideas conveyed in Fate and Tsukihime are those of Buddhism.
To believe in one self, to strengthen ones body and mind, to not worship gods (especially not the genocidal ones), to never turn a blind eye to evil (Shirou's arc) and so on.
Tsukhime is truly a story about optimism, valuing yourself, appreciating your life, and moving boldly into the future. Death might not be as close to our doors as it is to Shiki’s… but, then again, you never know. That is why the lessons in this story are so applicable. You are alive now, but maybe not tomorrow. So look on your past fondly, smile at yourself in the mirror now and again, and hope lovingly for the future. Shiki is someone who has about a decade or two of life left, and he messes around with two immortal beings in the main routes.
You don't know how deep Fate and Tsukihime is, because you have no knowledge of Buddhism, other ancient far Eastern and ancient near Eastern religions, mythologies and philosophies.
Fate and Tsukihime teaches the viewer that they should better themselves and it gives Shiki and Shirou as examples on how to achieve that.
Which also reflects the real story of Bodhidarma, the Indian monk who brought martial arts to China.
>you have no knowledge of Buddhism, other ancient far Eastern and ancient near Eastern religions, mythologies and philosophies.
You are correct, and I've seen you in the last Ganker thread and am fascinated by what you have to say. I definitely don't understand any of the symbolism so this stuff goes over my head, but what I do understand still sends the message to me.
I always thought Nasu's romances were more convincing because of this. The ways Shiki and Shirou fetch the main girl isn't through just being quirky or having a crush on her and then just falling through, it's because they're caught up in a shitty situation and nearly die for each other. Neither of them really like the other at the start either, Arc and Saber are completely alien to Shiki and Shirou who are simply following what they know about their modern world and personal philosophies, which get challenged and turned on their head by this exposure to a new one. So when they come to understand the other perspective, they also come to understand the other person.
don't think you're replaying to the right post, but agreed. The couples in Nasu works have to struggle together against something and help each other out mentally and physically. Also finding salvation of some kind in each other.
>which get challenged and turned on their head by this exposure to a new one.
Wait, Saber is basically the physical manifestation of Shirou's personal philosophy. The Saber route leads to Shirou leading the same life as Archer because his mental state is only changed enough that rather than making a deal with the counterforce, he goes to Avalon to be with Artoria but he still needlessly throws his life away with no self-awareness.
>Wait, Saber is basically the physical manifestation of Shirou's personal philosophy
In a basic sense. Many characters in Fate share similarities in their ideals with Shirou, yet carry striking differences that ultimately make them nothing alike. This is even a theme with the antagonist, Kirei.
Saber has a lot in common with Shirou, yet also has none. She's ironically far more pragmatic and ruthless than him, something that becomes especially highlighted when she gets blackened, and acts as a leader rather than a one-man savior.
Also despite the difference in her pragmatism, Saber follows a code while Shirou more or less follows his heart (such as pic, and how Shirou's ideals are adopted). Half of the Fate route is damn near spent between the two arguing over their few differences despite their apparent similarities.
Was Shirou compatible with Medea or Medusa?
Shirou is literally the type of man Medea was looking for all this time, more so than wobbly sensei.
>Shirou is literally the type of man Medea was looking for all this time, more so than wobbly sensei.
explain?
>explain?
Medea wanted a honest man with no second intentions literally the opposite of Jason who only wanted the Gold thing that calls dragons
no he's not. He's not even an adult and Medea calls her a kid and isn't attracted to him as a man at all. She loves Kuzuki because he's a man that would never betray her or use her for any grand scheme or has a heroic ideal like Shirou. Medea would hate him for talking about heroes like the times of her past. You don't know what you're talking about.
Not at all for Medea, not entirely sure about Medusa but outside of trust issues they seemed to get along okay in every route because Shirou treats her nicely. This goes further in HA.
Medea and Shirou however exist to despise each other, again in HA.
To resume, Fate is just zoroastrianism with some revisionism, Tsukihime is Buddhism with urban horror.
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>Fate is just Zoroastrianism
Zarathustra should have been grand caster.
I'd say that Fate is Zoroastrianism under a Buddhist lens because I think Nasu is just inherently way more familiar with Buddhism than anything else. I don't think he's Buddhist, but he definitely has a strong interest in Buddhism and, to a lesser extent, Taoism.
Truly groundbreaking philosophy.
Thanks, he seems pretty interesting honestly.
as opposed to Shirou who was born with Avalon implanted in him and has a reality marble? The frick does that even mean? Shiki's a fine character and his contrast between wanting normalcy instead of becoming a killer is good enough motivation. He also isn't a moron like Shirou so he's more easy to relate to.
>Shiki's a fine character and his contrast between wanting normalcy instead of becoming a killer is good enough motivation. He also isn't a moron like Shirou so he's more easy to relate to.
what was tsukihime's core messages?
Living is nice, Killing (indiscriminately) bad, a base nature exists but can be altered through different circumstances, Move on from the past and focus on the present, etc
>born with avalon
Read the vn
I already said implanted into him by Kiritsugu. It's still his plot armor that basically makes him immortal unless you cut his head off.
There's that one bad end where Shirou jumps out a window and turns into a pile of swords so you could totally kill him by either dropping him from a high place or crushing his body by dropping something on him, his healing factor would be exactly what would end up killing him
Also Heaven's Feel where his healing factor was erroneously going into overdrive and destroying him, much like someone with an autoimmune disease. Except this one results in swords stabbing out of every part of his body. As if the rest of the VN didn't convince you that Shirou was insane, his pain tolerance and willpower here make it all the more apparent that he's a complete robot.
Fun things eat dog food
KnK, besides 5 (which is full movie length for a reason), is really only good with a rewatch when you actually understand what's going on
the remake improves a lot of little things like anticipation during the action, makes flashbacks more bearable, the girls cuter, the music is much better, better pacing etc. shiki is still unlikeablethoigh
I'll take ReShiki over the other TM Protags anytime
Does it still have sex scenes?
No
Dropped
Ok, does it have at least implied sex scenes? Like fade to black or something?
Yeah
Oh, then that's great. I'm definitely up for a replay of Tsukihime.
Shiki is way more likeable moron. His voice and attitude are way improved in the remake.
tsukihime was never good.
I wonder is it possible to "port" some scenes from the original by recreating them with the new assets? Not necessarily from the Near Side, could be some SoL stuff from KT or whatever.
No Rape No Buy
>but why is rape in the game?
Because it's important to the story. Are they going to write out the sex maids if they can't have sex?
You're just as moronic as "no Neco no buy" guys even though she is in.
It always make me laugh when i mention if rape and sex make stories so bad then why asoiaf is better than all japanese stories that get censored despite asoiaf being full of rape and sex scenes and they can't never answer back.
I don't know about asoiaf but the vast majority of sex scenes in VN's are written like crappy porn flicks. When you read a sex scene in asoiaf is it written like GRRM expects you to unzip your pants and start jacking off?
Blame the writter, not the resource, so going like sex scenes make all stories worse is pure cope, specially romance stories since sex is one of the most important parts of a healthy relationship.
It doesn't have to be explicit visually but rape and sex scenes can show an emotional side to a story. Tsukihime was written that way and if the remakes wants to write it out because "rape is bad" then it's censored garbage that isn't worth your time. You have no one to blame but Type-Moom themselves.
>ape and sex scenes can show an emotional side to a story.
You can do the same shit without SHOWING it. The Arc sex scene in the ANIME is way better than in the VN just because you don't have to read it to feel the same emotions.
>in the ANIME
Opinion discarded
Yes, yours. DUDE MOLLUSKS LMAO adds nothing to game's presentation or story. Which is Nasu removed it and why you shitpost here.
what anime? there's no tsukihime anime
Anon, you know what? I'm downloading it right now just to spite you.
I'm surprised something so hated even has seeds
there is some rape though.
Honestly I don't remember any console game being this graphic and explicit.
there's a reason it's 17+ in Japan. It's a dark and fricked up game amidst the comedy and SoL moments.
Why should I read the new one and not the original one?
You should read both. The pseudo-elitists who hate the remake despite asking for it are moronic and you should ignore them.
It's the same type of remake as Nier Replicant. Everything is much better, except for one single detail which instantly makes it 0/10. Music in case of Replicant, Arc's skirt in case of Tsukihime
Read the original
>skirt
If I had to choose between calling you moronic or a Black person, I would've chosen both.
all the characters designs are fricking terrible not just arc's
>arcueid route
yawn
>demake better than the original
This bait is an eyesore.
Well, at least there's some semblance of her hair vents in this design.
I refuse to give a shit until they include best boy.
But he's in the game. As Roa. Your stupidity is fricking contagious, I'm out of here.
>He thinks Roa and SHIKI are the same person just because they're inhabiting the same body
Motherfricker, do you think a technicality has anything with my desire to see a character I like? When he's acting as Roa, he both looks and acts different.
i love ciel
Anal bawd
Arc literally only exists to be raped and doesnt deserve anything else.
How can people fap to such shitty artwork?
Steam release when?
I love Arc so much
I'm waiting for far side and Mahoyo.
What was the message and moral of Arc's route?
>Life is beautiful because it's fleeting
>Enjoy life and think of the present not the past or future
>I want to frick a cute vampire girl so much it's unreal
Does the protagonist of this have a personality like Shirou from Fate or is he like Self-insert kun from FGO? I'm talking about the remake btw.
He has a personality but he is meant to be more relatable than Shirou at least on a superficial level
you mean he's more ordinary or something?
His mindset is more ordinary yes
He pretends to be more of an average japanese high school student, because he's hypnotized to think he's just a normal person.
Shiki is not literally me, but he's kinda like me
Adding on, does he have actual personal agency or does he just get thrown from scenario to scenario?
Shirou is generic self-insert. Not defending GO but Tsukihime is far better written in terms of character personalities lmao
>but Tsukihime is far better written in terms of character personalities lmao
Nero and Roa?
>Nero
Now is Vlov Arkhangel
>Roa
He have personality in OG Vn but is even better in the Remake VN
he's not unlike Shirou but the effect of his childhood trauma is much more blunt (and tied in to his supernatural abilities) so he's less morally affected by it than he is psychologically
The first two routes weren't that good though, the original Tsukihime only became memorable after Akiha/Hisui/Kohaku routes. Meh.
When are we getting a VN about the superior Shiki?
you already got it.
I think Ryougi sucks!
Mikiya sure knows that she sucks a mean dick.
Is the patch already released?
>nasu trash post fgo
>worst route in nu turkeyhandle
read an actual good vn
sorry can't hear you over the 240k copies sold, you are gonna have to speak up
>have endless money from fgotards
>your name isn't as hated as gaykishi07 and nitro+
>have a media empire thanks to fate money
>hire popular jap va's
>still only manage to sell 240k copies
lol
lmao
cope
lol
lmao
cope, shitter. you will never be relevant.
keep eating nu nasu trash fgovermin
the frick are you talking about? The main MC for TsukiR wasn't even popular when the game was released. Most of the cast is modest in popularity besides the main girls and Vlov. 240k copies is also impressive for any game in Japan.
240k is a big success in the VN genre is the equivalent to Call of Duty sales in the genre
>isn't as hated as... nitro+
Quick rundown?
nitro+ turned into a shitty gacha company for a while now, and are trying to do a hail mary with a muramasa sequel, which is going to be dogshit if the quality of the spinoffs is any indication
Flop
>In case you didn't know, Arc route is fully translated and playable at the moment
No it fricking isnt
https://tsukihimates.com/patch/
It will be by the end of the week
Vlov Arkhangel is better than Chaos you can't change my mind
Home......
Surely you mean "Toono Mansion"
It's like nobody here read Heaven's Feel.
>Tsukigays hate Fate
This is news to you?
Sakura and Medea are nothing alike and their situations are completely different, get new bait.
Meant for
>reading
sorry I only glance at the untranslated manga scans and make up the dialogue in my head
Heaven Feel's is lackluster for 2/3 of the route.
Not interesting as UBW, not silly-charming as Fate.
Why is UBW considered the peak of stay night?
>Why is UBW considered the peak of stay night?
Not that anon, but for me thematically UBW have the best of both worlds between Fate route and Heaven Feel's and the most natural conclusion about shirou ideal.
UBW feels like what Nasu was writing fate for in the first place. If he ever was forced to deleted all routes and keep one, he would choose UBW over the others.
Type Moon's original plan was for a two-part release with only first part being named Fate/Stay Night. This part was supposed to include only the Saber and Rin routes and was the "Near side" of the Fate story. The second part would have been released later under title "Fate/Other Night" and was supposed to include Sakura's and Illya's routes, essentially being the "Far Side" of Fate. They wanted to reuse the structure Tsukihime had.
During production however the writing of Sakura's route lasted longer than originally expected and overall delays caused the production team to realize that 2-part release would be too expensive for them. So it was eventually decided that everything would be released in single game. The Illya route was canceled and its main plot points were integrated into Sakura's route.
Simply put HF as you know it today is mixture of original Sakura's and Illya's routes from Fate/other night.
kinda unrelated, but that ost in that sound image really hit me in the feels despite the fact that I only read the vn like 2 years ago
continuation
Cheers
Gotta say though I mainly associate that song with Saber somehow, I guess its her scenes which I first heard it and it really stuck with me
Arc no doubt
>Tsukihime discussion while devolve into shitflinging waifu wars as well once the inevitable anime comes out
frick
Rin's head and face make her look like an ayyy so much in this anime...
>If he ever was forced to deleted all routes and keep one, he would choose UBW over the others.
Fate and UBW are two sides of the same coin
Best girl, best antagonists ( Caster into EMIYA into Gilgamesh ), best 0 to hype moments and feels more canon in the world setting than the other 2 since it either ends with a threesome or with Shirou and Rin setting up the "world" for the plots of other follow up sequels/spin offs.
Sex with Rin for mana, why else? Plus unlimited blades.
>best pacing
>fully focuses on the HGW aspect
focuses on the HGW aspect
The HGW is the worst part of Fate and UBW is focused on Archer and Shirou's interactions.
only route where lancer is relevant
Only route where my self insert, Cu Chulainn, goes out like a badass instead of jobbing.
Also frick Sakura and frick the annoying Saber NTR ( not sexually, but she can betray you ) options in Fate
>not sexually, but she can betray you options in Fate
to get the Saber's betray bad ending you literally needs to be a butthole to get it, even in the Taiga Dojo tells you that ending is impossible to get without doing it on purpose
So what if I'm an butthole?
The pragmatic king kills you because she thinks you're a moronic gay and wants her wish granted.
>Why is UBW considered the peak of stay night?
Thematically UBW have the best conclusion and the best conclusion in general for most characters.
>Shirou reach a more healthy ideal without fully dropping them
>Artoria finds a answer through Redman and Shirou conflict
>EMIYA comes to a term with his life
>Sasaki Kojiro have the sword fight that he wanted
>Medea experiences true love for a while
>Cu Chulainn avenges his OG master
>Thematically UBW have the best conclusion and the best conclusion in general for most characters.
What about Sakura, the canon wife?
The good parts of UBW: much better pacing than the other two parts, follows through with many prior setups and answers any previous questions, Archer being a fantastic antagonist, great focus on Shirou and his development and ideals
The bad parts of UBW: Rin, Medea
Beating your future self and surpassing your limits is always kino
Only the first third. Sakura just sucks. I get what Nasu was going for but she's awful, feels like the reason I'm supposed to like her is because she's in a shitty situation, can cook a mean breakfast, and has huge boobs. But fortunately after the first nine days, it starts going strong into gear. UBW may be better overall and Fate may be underappreciated, but HF has the best high points.
I'm worrying about Type-Moon...
I know that many newbies didn't even read VNs / Light Novel F/Z and just watched shitty animu by Deen, Ufotable and JC Staff.
And now even more morons will play in shitty April Fools' game, Fate/Extra and even worse CCC, watch Fate/Zero and Carnival Phantasm without even reading VNs/LNs and pretend to be TM-gays after that, make tons of shitty threads about characters and power levels.
They will not be even familiar with the original art-style and will think that this shitty K-on CP is "okay", Morii-san's art is not pure shit, RCO Wada is nice and F/Z is soo kewl stylish and grim dark, also Fate/Extra is acceptable by any means with all this "wH0 iZ mai WAiFUUUU" & UmUshit prostitute of babbylon crap.
Type-Moon is not supposed to be this popular, get the frick out you narutards.
And now you can CLEARLY see all these "typemoongays" of 2010-2013. Fricking horrible. You're not TYPE-MOON fans, but NEO-NARUTO-MOON fans.
I ordered Mahoyo and finished that shit VN in this year (2011 late release) while you are still sucking dicks for at least 5 years or so without the translation, fricking plebeians and casuals. But even Mahoyo was a PIECE of SHIT and BOMBED really hard.
And what is more hilarious - Type-SHIT is pretending like it never happened and preferred to completely FORGOT about their new VN by making another absolutely IDIOTIC fate/shit such as EXTRA/SHIT and APOCRYSHIT.
And now Type-Moon decided to resurrect this shit Fate/Apocrypha like it wasn't enough to make Fate/Milking Sabers shit, their outbursting impotence and rectal dysfunction is taking them way far away from something actually new and original, you may suggest that Mahoyo is new but you'll be terribly wrong because the sequence of Mahoyo was made in 1996(!) year and the only "new" thing will be Girl's work but I'm not sure even about this, there's no guarantee that they didn't pull this shit out of someone's old ass again.
Take meds and an English class.
>have no real interest in this or fate
>have extreme interest in almost all properties related
It fricking sucks bros. There are so many games and anime I want to watch related to this shit but I just cant bring myself to sit through 90 hours of reading. And if I just skip over it and like the things I want to watch and play thats related I know I am going to want to go ahead and read the originals but then it would be too late to start with those.
Its suffering, I wish there were audio books for VNs
>almost all properties related
Like what, Mahoyo?
Everything else is a billion Fate spinoffs that are worse than the original VN
>Like what, Mahoyo?
Yeah!
And
Melty Blood series
Re;Zero series
That magical girl show that stars that girl you posted
I know there are a lot of others that have been on my list for a long while but those are the main ones I want to play/watch.
But Mahoyo is just another VN
Melty Blood is a fighting game sequel-ish of the tsukihime VN
Re;Zero has nothing to do with TM
the magical girl show is heavily inspired by the VN and the best parts are the VN characters doing stuff
If you truly are interested in the other stuff but nowt in the source material that is better than them and most ideas derive from then you aren't really that interested
>then you aren't really that interested
Anon, I didn't know you were me? Tell me some other things about myself I don't know. But yeah, in order to enjoy all that stuff I mentioned, I need to read the original Fate vn first. I've already looked it all up. Fate as a story what I hear its about, I have no interest in it what so ever, but everything else that has been spawned from it sounds amazing. This wouldnt even be the first time in a game franchise this has happened. The SMT games? Are fricking trash. I have played all of them and you know what spin off series is far better? Persona. Just because you dont like the original doesnt mean you cant like the spinoffs.
Fate/Extra CCC is peak Type Moon
dumb coomer take
It's the deepest Naus work
All you need
>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
>Kara no Kyoukai
>Tsukihime
>Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
uh wasn't it going to be released on the sixteenth?
I am the only man on earth who actually likes the Fate route.
No, It's my favorite thematically and Saber have a better character arc that the other two heroines
Good, but are you a Sabergay?
>Good, but are you a Sabergay?
My fate waifu is Dojo Taiga but my favorite heroine is Saber
Good enough. I'm not alone then.
What was the message and moral of Fate route?
all englishmen are Black folk
you can't change the past, you must accept your failures, be proud that you did it your best and go trying to doing it better from now.
Being true to who you are means embracing your own mistakes, and you will only remain stuck where you are if you can't move past them.
Also if you score a girlfriend good enough, she might live with you in eternal paradise in an alternate dimension after waiting a thousand fricking years. Don't worry this time she'll actually be a girl because she has her hair down.
Accept that the past is in the past. You cannot be a hero who lives in the past.
>What was the message and moral of Fate route?
Accepting failure and leaving past behind
You can't change the past, but that doesn't mean you can't learn from it and help shape the future.
Also fun fact is that many people misunderstand Fate route thinking it leads to a bad end for Shirou because he doesn't give up everything for Saber like he does Sakura. But as a matter of fact Shirou was ready to abandon his ideals and run away with Saber - the only thing stopping him was Saber herself who wanted him to live up to her ideals that she saw in him.
All TM protags have their won Saber, Rin and Sakura but...
>Saber archetype
>Always wholesome, but usually with a sad ending where she dies
>Rin archetype
>Always cute & funny, usually also leads to threesomes or more interesting dynamics
>Sakura archetype
>Always a fricking bawd who fricks around
Is Mash a Saber or Sakura archetype?
>Is Mash a Saber or Sakura archetype?
a non-character archetype
mash is a dogshit lionfricking character that should have stayed dead, just like fate/prototype
Sakura Archetype.
Musashi, Okita and her Alter, Caster Artoria are Seiba Archetypes
Ereshkigal, Charlotte, Jeanne Alter, Olga kinda are Rin archetypes.
> thinking it leads to a bad end for Shirou because he doesn't give up everything for Saber like he does Sakura
He goes to live with her in eternal fricking paradise. There is no way that can possibly be a bad ending. Thinking longterm, it's the absolute best ending. The only way it could be a bad ending is if you think fricking female King Arthur is a little weird.
Fate route didn't have an epilogue until years later. The original VN ended with his future uncertain and Saber fricking dead. This ending gave it a bad rep compared to HF, which had a much more positive and conclusive ending so naturally people thought Nasu was trying to say, "Give up your ideals or suffer".
Thankfully Nasu released Last Episode later and basically said, "Actually even if you chase those 'doomed' ideals and stay true to yourself you can still find salvation". But at this point it's been a decade and people were set in their ways hence Fate = bad end.
People is moronic because Nasu said multiples times that Shirou can't become a CG in any ending
Proofs?
>Proofs?
Nasu literally says that in Fate/complete material III: World material FAQ. Shirou doesn't become a Counter Guardian in any of the route endings
LE is fricking shit
Fate route had the best ending in the VN
fricking based
The Last Episode was the most unecessary shit ever, and I say this as someone who likes saber more than the other girls
The Fate route ended perfectly already
I think Last Episode wasn't necessary too, but it doesn't hurt the original in any way either. It also gave us this kino.
"Someday, my memories of her will fade. Her voice, her actions — I might forget them as well. But even then, I will always remember that I loved her."
Sorry but isn't that quote and track referring to the end of the Saber route and not the Last Episode?
Alright I'll keep that in mind
I've only watched the first 2 to be fair, theyb just didn't hook my interest as I hoped so I can put the series aside
I also hope the fifth entry is as good as people praise it to be
You may be right since it's been like a decade since I read it. They're both one in the same in my eyes though.
Fate route was so kino that it gave us Camelot and LB6
Camelot sucked
I will admit Bedivere was good though.
Camelot was good whenever it was about the Roundtable. Everything else was trite filler except for Hassan's one cool scene.
Nah Stella was based
Like Hassan, he's just a one scene wonder.
I disagree, all the scenes with him in it are good especially his conversations with Bedivere, I'd argue Bedivere's arc wouldn't resolve half as well without the conversations he has with Arash in the beginning of the story
I guess we'll just agree to disagree then.
Agravain and Bedivere are the best of Camelot the scene where Lancelot calls Agravain a traitor and he responds a "traitor? me? the same as you?" and laughs is fricking kino
HF and Fate LE are essentially the same in BOTH routes Shirou have to literally die to find happiness the difference is that in HF he got resurrected with the Puppet asspull and Fate he goes to paradise.
Also Nasu original intention in HF was Shirou dying being the Normal ending the only one
I was going to say LE is the antithesis to HF, but you're kinda right. In both routes he sticks to protecting what he cherishes the most. In LE that's his ideals and cherished memory of Saber. In HF that's Sakura. Ironically it's UBW that ends on an inconclusive note that had to get fixed later on in the anime.
People like to claim that Fate route is shit but the only side things that are good in Nasuverse are directly or indirectly related to Fate Route or Saber like Camelot, Mordred, LB6 or Garden of Avalon
>People like to claim that Fate route is shit but the only side things that are good in Nasuverse are directly or indirectly related to Fate Route or Saber like Camelot, Mordred, LB6 or Garden of Avalon
Saber and Rin's routes were meant to be "Fate/Stay Night" and Sakura and Illya's were meant to be "Fate/Other Night, as in two sides of the same coin.
>Near Side (Vampire route) and Far Side (Tohno family route)
>Stay Night and Other Night
>Extra and CCC
UBW was the opposite of Fate in someone is trying to help Shirou, that's Rin, so the date and all is for Shirou, rather than Saber. But the major issue is that Nasu doesn't bother to write them as happy together and real equals, not just allies in the battlefield, but Shirou making something for Rin or Rin claiming they'll be happy together. He adds that in FHA (if it's not a guest writer) and pretty much says the relationship hasn't changed. It's all about Shirou. Nothing about Rin. It's a stagnant relationship that is very onesided. Archer covers the half of pertaining to the flaws in Shirou's ideals and how they brought him nothing but suffering and Gilgamesh covers the half pertaining to Shirou's ideal being borrowed from another.
>That's right, when I finished writing the Saber and Rin route all in one go, part of me thought the game wouldn't be settled unless I flipped it over. As the theme of Fate/stay night, if we assume the Saber route to be posing a question, the Rin route is the answer and the Sakura route is a practical application. In the beginning there were plans for an Illya route, but if we were to add it, the game would have wound up being incredibly huge. So we had this plan to release the Saber route and Rin route as "Fate/stay night", and the Illya route and Sakura route as "Fate/other night". But when we thought of the 8800 yen price, we decided we should include the Sakura route after all, so in the end, we decided to combine the Illya route and Sakura route into one route."
No Nrvnqsr no read. Frick Nutsukihime
He's being saved for Sacchin's route, I can feel it.
Anon, it's time to let go
s-shut up...
I could easily see Nero being saved for her route. It was teased him and Roa would team up in her route and he'd be a subversive twist final boss that wasn't in the other routes that Nasu likes to do.
That's why I'm considering it an actual possibility, Nasu clearly wants to make him something more than a midboss you plow through to show off the power of the MEODP, but somehow I doubt that he wants to shoehorn him in as a mystery homie in the preexisting Far Side routes. At most I can see him making cameos there, but him being the main villain of Sacchin's route would feel the most natural, I think.
yeah, Nasu catching the player by surprise after the tamer far side routes with the maids with a final bombastic route with Nero in Sacchin's route makes perfect sense.
>2020+2
>not expecting Ultimate Sacchin vs Nero(Forma de mi Pequeño Unicornio 666%) on the school rooftop while this plays https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3N6Zr3L_Rg
baka famalam I bet you don't even expect the final chapter of her route to be titled Melty Blood
I'm partial to link related myself (even though it wasn't his theme in melty).
>start Tsuki thread
>Fategays derail it over waifu wars in their own VN
I've seen disagreements, but not once have I seen any full-scale waifu war about Tsukihime. Why is that?
Because Arc just shits on Ciel and Akiha both in an unfunny way.
Rin is what a perfected Akiha looks like and she became an icon of anime as a whole.
Fair enough. I always saw Akiha as a more interesting Azaka, with Rin being a more simplified version of both meant for broader appeal.
I am the only man on earth who actually likes Hisui.
>Why is that?
Tsukihime doesn't have, for example, the Kohakugays larping about canon wife in every tsukihime like the wormbawds do in every fate thread even when is unrelated stuff like lore they even do this shit in Apocrypha threads
You should be happy Tsukihime doesn't have awful waifu wars like Fate does. Tsukihime fans act like sane people in comparison to what Fategays post about on here and on Ganker. Be happy it's like that for now before the inevitable anime happens.
There is only one really bad waifu homosexual and it's a Sakuragay who is always responsible for shitting up any typemoon threads.
Literally the only ones that start this stupid waifuwars are the wormbawds in every fate thread, the lore ones, the powercreep ones, the apocrypha ones, etc.
I feel like ~80% of people who read tsuki probably end up with either Arc or Kohaku as their favorite (of the original 5 heroines) and the 2 almost never interact so its not as fun to war
wrong
Why aren't you playing with Arc right now, anon-kun?
Who was the best girl for Shiki in the end?
>Arc
>Ciel
>Akiha
>Hisui
>Kohaku
>Satsuki
Miyako
Arc > Akiha > Kohaku > Hisui > Ciel.
The verdict remains out on Sacchin.
Sacchin, because she was going to win without that bawd Arc messing around
Arcueid, there's a reason why she's the main heroine and the canonical one after all. For as much as Ciel, Hisui, Kohaku and Akiha have their interests in Shiki, none of them set quite right as Arc.
This proves I'm the only one on the planet who actually likes Hisui, since you didn't even reply. Anyone who might like her just gets cannibalized by her sister.
I know people like to hate on Ciel and all that, but if you really think about it, she's not a bad person. Ciel is the perfect combination between a lover and a good friend for Shiki.
In the VN, Ciel is consistently the only character that is shown to be competent, assured, and benign. She is consistently the only character Shiki can trust. She is, consistently, the only character that knows what she's doing, and is willing to help Shiki. When Shiki is babbling around like the moron he so often is in the VN, Ciel is always here to reassure him, help him get back on his feet, and is just a great human bean in general.
Ciel was a secretive mask-upon-mask character and becomes unpredictable because of how often she switches between them even though Ciel acts completely independent from Shiki and the rest of Tsukihime's plot. The umbrella scene where Ciel finds Shiki in the rain and he has nowhere to go, so she takes him to her apartment and help him get back to his regular self. That scene is also triggered by having Shiki face reality instead of denying that it happened and having him believe that it was just a dream.
Ciel was cool as hell, with Ciel running up the wall and attacking from the fricking CEILING and Shiki can’t help but be honest and think of it as “charmingly beautiful”.
Ciel doesn't fit into a shallow archetype, her personalty and actions are strongly motivated, the pacing of her arc was great, the true ending landed the bittersweet vibe.
Ciel definitely had the best chemistry with Shiki out of all the other girls. Shiki and Ciel are literally like a married couple from the very start of the VN.
Now ufo just needs a passionate Ciel fan to be as good as Sudou and make the Tsukihime anime, and we might clear the stigma around her as well.
>Ciel is consistently the only character that is shown to be competent, assured, and benign... the only character that knows what she is doing
That's what I liked about Ciel too. Despite having no real good reason to be a nice sympathetic person she is and it's not really an act but more like a learned way over hundreds of years of life that being good opens more doors than being a shitter. It's real easy to write a character "who has seen some shit" and have them with that thousand yard stare but Ciel has definitely experienced some shit and isn't that way. She's a lot like Death in from Sandman.
I never got the vibe people hated Ciel. And when I say that, I mean when I found this place the name of the game was talking about Type-Moon to death. Talking about Type-Moon is THE oldest tradition here from my perspective and if there's an older one I don't know of it.
>Talking about Type-Moon is THE oldest tradition here from my perspective and if there's an older one I don't know of it.
r07's VNs moron
>from my perspective
You mean people only talking about higu due to umineko being shit?
I can't be bothered to figure out how to assemble the github files, I will just wait a few days
It's rude to leave a girl all by her lonesome, anon.
She will have to wait then, unless someone uploads the patched rom somewhere.
She's dumber than a fish.
How long until I can buy English Tsukihime?
I mean we're finally getting an official type moon release in english so it might not be completely off the table in the future. Wouldn't expect it anytime soon though.
Probably within a year or two assuming that Mahoyo's official English release this winter goes well enough. The dream wishful thinking peak release schedule is
>Mahoyo Winte 2022
>TsukihimeRE before Red Garden
>Red Garden simultaneous English release with JP in 2024
I stopped following TM a long ago. Has Nasu announced any plans for a Fate route anime yet or is he still wanking FGO?
>plans for a Fate route anime yet
if they announce a fate route anime they would do it in 2024 in the 20th anniversary of the VN
I wonder if more people would like the route animated, since inevitably they'd cut back on the exposition everyone complains about. That's a dark thought.
Fate route have some nice things that could be adapted like Garden of Avalon CD Drama in exchange for the cuts
>I wonder if more people would like the route animated, since inevitably they'd cut back on the exposition everyone complains about. That's a dark thought.
Didn't Fate route get hate because it didn't have as much action as UBW?
I don't remember anyone "hating" it. People just thought it was boring because it was the "intro" route and it didn't have any good setpieces unlike UBW (muh drown in your ideals) and HF (muh KOTOMINE KIREI).
>People just thought it was boring because it was the "intro" route and it didn't have any good setpieces
Saber vs Rider?
You posted another pic of why I hate it
>Archer doing cool stuff offscreen
>sudden sex
>sudden asspull
>You are a maker, not a fighter
Just gonna ignore the sex scene because I have no argument. Something something Realta Nua.
>That's right, I make things, so I need to make something that can win here!
>How about Saber's old sword?
I dunno, I thought it worked pretty well.
Saber with her hair down is an incredibly strange sight, Shirou's right.
>Saber with her hair down is an incredibly strange sight, Shirou's right.
Years later this still surprises me. So used to seeing Saber look and act like a knight, with her hair braided up and often looking stern and serious. Whenever her hair is down and she actually looks a bit like a girl, it's off-putting.
I've been told by another anon in the past that he has a similar relationship with the back of her head/the knot of her bun. Before the anime adaptations you only got to see it in like, 2 CGs.
Shirou can barely project Archer's swords more than a couple times in UBW but he can just pull one of the most powerful weapons in all fiction out of his ass and it's so powerful it manages to kill Herc multiple times in one go
It's pure bullshit
Shirou wrestles with his projection throughout every route, and continually surpasses what he thought were his limits. He also still needed Saber's help to make the sword actually effective against Berserker, compared to UBW where he just learns how to use a Reality Marble from seeing Archer use it, and Heaven's Feel where he projects the Gem Sword and according to a bad ending he's actually capable of winning against Saber by himself until he actually burns out.
If you consider that a major asspull, then the rest of the series is filled with them.
No the real asspull of that scene was how Caliburn took out like 8 of Berserker's lives. You telling me some random shitty sword is somehow infinitely stronger than THE EXCALIBUR?
No, the main reason people dislike it is because of the overbearing amount of exposition in the early parts of the story. Rin explains every possible detail to Shirou, about magic, about the war, about everything she's learned in her entire life. Also, Shirou and Saber against Gilgamesh is commonly cited as being a very cheesy scene compared to the highly satisfying climactic moments in UBW and HF. That entire day was cheesy, not just the fight.
>very cheesy scene compared to the highly satisfying climactic moments in UBW and HF
*laughs in Ian McKellen reading the UBW chant out loud*
>I stopped following TM a long ago. Has Nasu announced any plans for a Fate route anime yet
It's Mahoyo time, tough luck. He even tried to insert Mahoyo lore into FGO.
Remake is shit for fgo consumers
No it's not, because FGOgays are scared of main characters having actual personalities and actual writing and themes that are used in the story.
Agravain did nothing wron
Type-Moon threads on Ganker are always so awful. I'm ashamed to share a fanbase with all of you.
Trace on
>Search in
Trigger off
>Freeze out
Divine Skill, flawless and firm
>The crane's wings misses not its mark
Might moves mountains
>Our spirit and skills reach Mt Tai
Blade cuts water
>Our spirit and skills breach the Yellow river
Life approaches the Imperial Villa
>Our names etched upon the first gods' realms
We embrace heaven together!
>Two heroes' lives, shared and parted
The Fate route should get at least a point minus for featuring the dumbest looking CG in the entire VN.
Post Tsukihime you Blacks
Fategays ruined the thread. It's over shikibros...
It's Tsukihime's fate to be slowly overshadowed by the bigger franchise after a strong start.
Lmao, Kiara Kisshouin is in Tsukihime. You CANNOT ESCAPE FATE.
Shiki could never win against shirou, if he saw shirou's UBW his head would explode.
KNEEL
no it wouldn't. Nero's attacks are more impressive than UBW and it didn't happen to Shiki. He'd easily defeat Shirou.
Let's bring it back to Tsukihime. What was your Favorite moment in the game? Have you played Kagetsu Tohya? Melty Blood?
Reminder that Saber's route foreshadows most of HF's twists
I wonder why Nasu just doesnt create a new universe with a new MC and girls.
I'm sure a lot of people want that by now, we're stuck arguing between blonde, black and purple every time in every TM franchise.
Here we go, the S/a/kuragays have been activated to explain with 5k words paragraphs just how much Rin is an imperfect choice compared to their wormbawd
>S/a/kuragays
>plural
It's just one schizo.
I wish, I really wish that was the case.
This and twilight is just Inuyasha but bad
Inuyasha was twilight before it was cool
Frick fategays.
Arc love! Mogs the British King!
Is Saber that much shorter? I thought Arc was only 5'5"
Saber is a pre-teen girl, Anon.
Saber is 5'0. She stopped aging at fourteen/fifteen when she pulled the sword.
>when she pulled the sword.
>reminder that Merlin rigged the sword selection to specifically ruin Artoria's life
The worst thing is this is canon even in the true legend but at least in Fate his feels remorse for doing it
the frick are you talking about moron, merlin showed artoria what would happen if she pulled the sword, and she still accepted her destiny
Merlin literally conditioned Artoria to pull out the sword since childhood in Garden of Avalon, both Kay and Merlin admits that Melin messed up her dreams since she was a kid to "train her" as a King
She's a test tube baby who was born, bred and raised specifically for the purpose of defeating Vortigern. She's not human, she's a machine who was built for a specific purpose. This is why she relates to Shirou so hard, because while Shirou's situation was accidental, it still has strong parallels to Saber's. A pair of machines who dream of being human.
And yes Merlin feels guilty for ruining Artoria life by doing that. That's literally Garden of Avalon plot, Merlin willingly letting himself being trapped in the Tower of Avalon as a punishment for what he did to Artoria
how does the futa dick fit into this
It was one of the misdeeds that Merlin did to Artoria
>Two imperfect humans emulating emotions find love in each other
K I N O
Saber stop aging at 15
I summon the dies irae chads so they can also be mocked alongside gachaBlack folk
you called?
real Dies Irae CHADS are VN connoisseurs who have also enjoy TM stuff
*bursts through wall*
Fight me you fricking gayit
Fategays...don't make us summon The asiatic.
He's permanently stuck in /fgog/ or /alter/, he'd never come here.
Nobunaga vs Counter Force Rider fricking when?
Every time I see someone post anything related to Fate the neurons in my brain recoil in pre-emptive disgust when I imagine what kind of drooling neanderthal the person posting said thing is. Fate fans are blissfully ignorant and unaware of the absolute garbage they consume and enjoy on a day to day basis, compared to thoughtful and intellectual Dies Irae readers who understand what real high quality writing looks like. The Shirou in Fate is nothing more than a passive bystander, a self insert for the pathetic reader who wishes to be whisked away into a situation where they have no control but are magically saved by plot armor and loved by everyone, compared to the Shirou of Dies Irae who truly epitomizes the idea of taking charge, fighting for what you believe in, and "Riding the Tiger'' as the philosopher Julius Evola puts it.
Fate is like a cancerous growth that has far outlived its appeal and usefulness, it's fans eager to slurp up whatever drivel it's degenerate writer N*su puts out regardless of quality or intention. Dies Irae on the other hand lived as it died, explosively, written by a genius who truly understands the fragility of human nature.
So next time, Fate fanboys, I implore you to attempt to use your two remaining brain cells to remember who your superiors are before you mindlessly attack your fellow Visual Novel Connoisseurs.
>Shirou in Fate is nothing more than a passive bystander, a self insert for the pathetic reader who wishes to be whisked away into a situation where they have no control but are magically saved by plot armor and loved by everyone
Examples?
Dies Irae is not the VN were the antogonist master plan was being cucked by his clone?
*teleports behind you*
>DIshit [BABBLE]
I cachinnate
Dies Irae >>>> Fate
Is there neco arc in the remake?
You get to meet her in the Ciel-sensei scenes after bad ends.
Good
Le vegan of VNs
Someday I'll read Dies Irae, but today is not that day.
>Dies Irae cucks still living their jealousy fantasy over never taking off as a franchise and forever being stuck as the "what could've been" series and the mobile game flopping hard
Glad to be a FateCHAD everyday when I wake up.
>being proud to be a fatecuck
i wouldn't exactly be proud of the franchise being a mess full of dogshit hacks like sakurai or the dogshit fate mangas/light novels
I'm proud of being part of a franchise where I dont need to remind others that it exists to have validation yes.
aaaaaaAAAAAiiiIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!1
This is not even offensive the gilgakeks are a joke even inside the Fate fanbase
>tincan babble
Do you know why Gil is such a chad? BECAUSE b***h, he (OUR KING OF ALL HEROES OF THE BEGINNING AND END OF ALL UNIVERSES) singlehandedly took down Herc, the STRONGEST OF ALL TIMES of EVERY TIME, with a DEVILISH smile on his face. He had a LITERAL death chain trap as a pet he fed with LOVE. No ridiculous power up, no FGO MOE EVENT BULLSHIT. Just his quick wits and cunning thinking. Every WEPON and IMPORTANT item is HIS that tried to find more and MORE and the thieves were sniffed out SWIFTLY and EFFICENTLY REMOVED, POSTHASTE. GIL-KUN was SO INTELLIGENT the author had to EVACUATE the POOP MOUND BLADE WORKS that can not CONTAIN THE EPIC. He HAD to be BULLSHITTED by the author (Nasu peace be upon him) for him to be taken out. He's THAT powerful. He has MULTIPLE STRUMPETS, more than you can say about that tincan, also known as SHITalot. (I heard he hangs out with SHITgang of bongistanis when no one is looking.)
EEKKKKKKK
If DI is so much better than F/SN why doesn't it have a multimedia empire?
Because it can only afford moronic posters on Ganker and Ganker that use the same "kneel" replies to shoddily written posts.
It's the FATE of the weak.
Sony themselves produced the ufotable anime, FGO, and Tsukihime Remake
unironically sony money
FGO its probably the only thing keeping that trash company in the green
Is there any difference between Dies Iraegays from Fategays? Just as Dies Iraegays can't stop huffing their own farts and loudly, aggressively b***h about how no one acknowledges how THEIR favorite VN is the best one and Fate's totally shit, Fategays just can't fricking stand living in a world in which their waifu isn't the center of the universe. You're all the same, you're all jackasses.
We're actually all the same posters, as in Fategays ARE DIgays
DI will be forgotten as generic edgy shit
Fate series will be remember forever
>b-but X series
didnt ask
Wake me up when the Hisui route is done, Tsukihime is at its peak when it's full schizo and the Ciel route doesn't quite scratch the itch the way Hisui's does.
The Ciel route in the remake has some good schizo moments though. It'll amp up those moments from the original for sure.
Hisui route it's still the best in Schizo moments
me when i see sacchin licking her bloody fingers
Hopefully the maid routes aren't tossed to the wayside for whatever the frick kaiju battle shit is gonna happen in the Sacchin one
I hope you're right. My two biggest fears are they downplay Shiki's multiday LSA adventures and that they shift focus away from his decscent due to Kohaku's trickery, perhaps by making titty Doctor the true final boss after he puts SHIKI out of his misery.
Nah, Nasu already talked about keeping the spirit of the old game with the remake and he kept to his word in general and with the darker/crazier moments. I'm hyped for more of it.
I wonder how hard the walls are. I know for most places, walls aren't actually made to be hard enough to withstand being punched but this is a super-expensive mansion made for rich people.
good thing he's got eyes that can slash them like butter.
He clearly didn't do that here though. He used his knife but he missed the lines and he also clearly punched the walls multiple times.
huh, aren't the lines going haywire though so slashing it at random would still work? He's also being taken over by Roa so maybe his body is enhanced that way?
>super-expensive mansion made for rich people
I can't speak for Japan, where I am sure their craftsmen don't build dogshit, but in North American just because people pay a lot for a building doesn't mean it is built well. It's still the same shit materials with the same shitty workers built to the most minimum of specifications that have never ever been updated well enough to endure the environment buildings are meant to exist in. Wood construction in Japan means a lot more than it means in North America. I trust wood construction in Japan because they fricking know they live in rainy weather and don't want their house to collapse after 40 years. In North America, they build wood homes to not survive 40 years; I wouldn't trust most shit to last 20 years of snow/rain because I've seen million dollar houses fall apart after two years of winters because good luck finding a contractor that has actual craftsmen on their crew. In fact, the more old greying frickers you can find on a crew the more likely your house won't be shit.
A room that looks like that is going to be wood construction and the damage isn't accurate for how strong Shiki is and the materials used to build that room. If you had a guy doing that to a room you'd put them in something built with concrete construction, I wouldn't trust block and rebar construction to hold them.
the superior VN is Majikoi
dies irae is just devil may cry characters acting all moronic and cheesy
Yes and it's great.
if you read this remember in the VN of your life all routes ends with you dying virgin and alone
everything that lives dies alone.
this is the reason why you are to going to die virgin and alone anon
I don't think any indie VN will ever be able to reach Fate's reach. Fate/stay night's timing was just too goddamn perfect. 2000-2005 was THE optimal years for VNs to reach critical mass, so anything made after then just won't be able to win as hard.
I'm not even saying Fate's the best VN ever, but that timing was way too fricking perfect. A lot of shit on this planet is about timing. Timing is all it can take for a perfect diamond to go completely unnoticed or a piece of trash to be elevated to the realm of gods. Timing is everything and Fate took full advantage of that.
Saber and Rin are iconic faces of the concept of "anime" in general, there's never going to be anything that can match up to that now that anime became mainstream in the burger shithole
DDLC already reached higher highs views wise and discussion wise. It sucks, but it probably won't last in longevity like Fate and other classic VNs have.
>DDLC
you mean the shitty meme vn that already got forgotten by mainstream?
I mean the retail copy sold 500k that came out last year so it still hasn't been forgotten by a large amount of people.
katawa shoujo was suppose to be fotm and look where it is now.
where is it anon
the 40000 /vg/ threads aren't a place
>katawa shoujo
This isn't an Undertale. It might deserve the same recognition, simply for being a collaboration of randoms on the Internet that was completed by a team of passionate people without any of them sabotaging it with drama, but it will never get it.
I'm not even entirely sure Undertale will survive the test of time but it sure has a better shot at it than Katawa Shoujo.
DDLC is one of those "meme" VNs that pander to normalgays with some gimmick and are quickly forgotten. Same with that Ame girl.
Wait a second the remake is out already?
I still laugh when people bring up the Science Adventure VNs or the Key ones and compare them to Fate.
Forgettable enjoyable experiences. Fate is eternal instead.
>People still mad he added Kiara to Tsukihime
LMAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOO
But what about the H scenes?
Nothing with ~~*bisexual*~~ representation can be good, let alone "great."
why is ciel so hot
She's been well tenderized
very
Fate: Two machines who dream of being human fall in love with each other.
UBW: A human girl falls in love with a machine and tries to teach him to be human.
HF: A machine is forced to abandon his original programming in order to save the human girl he loves.
Fate Shirou tried to abandon his programming, but Saber was like "no".
He was tempted to briefly.
Yeah multiple times he wants to run away with Saber and forget about the war, but she stays true to her duty so in the end he decides to support her.
The part where Shirou leaves Saber on the bridge then comes back six hours later and she's still just standing there bugs me to no end. It's like the scene was taken from a soap opera.
Yeah it was ridiculous, but also hilarious because Saber is autistic enough to do that.
That is a good point, they are both absolutely autistic enough to do that. But man, that scene followed up by the "I love you" confessions against Gilgamesh, then the scene at night? That's overload, Nasu.
The entire scenario was contrived, but I can't lie and say the whole
>I've found you. You're my sheath
thing was based.
Sword and sheath haha. Besides that part it worked a bit since it explained Shirou's crazy healing powers, he took a direct hit from Berserker and lived after all, he's established to the point where he'd be fine taking a hit from Ea.
The Realta Nua changes make this part even weirder. Instead of having a terrible sex scene when they get home, the two of them act even more autistic and awkward as they shuffle together on a futon. True autism.
One could argue it works better since two robots wouldn't know how to sex.
There's a reason why she keeps the ahoge when her hair's down.
She's a machine and lacked the sufficient experience to know what to do in that situation.
Just call it what it is: autism.
I liked the argument though and it showed that Saber wouldn't back down on someone questioning her wish. Her conviction is strong.
I feel bad because Saber autism is not a cute anime natural autism is mix between indoctrination autism due Merlin messing up her dreams and trauma autism. Saber autism was so messed up that even frightened and caused a guilty trip in a Inhuman Incubus like Merlin
I never played FGO so I don't know what you're talking about, but it sounds like Merlin brainwashed her or something lol
Is not FGO lore, is Garden of Avalon CD Drama were Kay and Merlin both admitted that after in her youth after her daily training and lectures, Merlin continued lecturing Artoria in her dreams so she never actually took a break even when she was sleeping
>Not giving the poor girl a break
Merlin sounds kind of like a dick.
Needs of the many, yadda yadda yadda. This is also a point in the conflict between Gilgamesh and Saber. Much like Saber, Gilgamesh was engineered specifically for a purpose, but unlike Saber, he rebelled against his original programming and ended up doing the opposite. On the other hand, strictly speaking, Gilgamesh and Saber's goals weren't technically opposed; if anything, Saber is actually one of Gilgamesh's successors alongside Romulus and Solomon.
The start of the CD Drama is merlin allowing himself being trapped to the end death of universe in Tower inside Avalon as a punishment to literally ruin Artoria life considering that the life he forced upon her by basically indoctrinating Artoria to be a King since she was baby was a unforgivable sin. He states that he played with a innocent little girl life with any hesitation
>Merlin sounds kind of like a dick.
He admits that and directly says that messin' with Artoria whole life his biggest and unforgivable sin
Sakura is a girl who's effectively had her humanity stripped from her, it's more fixing machine in love with killing machine there
No. Sakura's heart was still human even if her body was modified. She's not a turbo autist like Shirou and Saber are.
name one character who comes CLOSE to being as alpha as these two
Sigma
Nanaya
>threatens to kill miyako in a very suggestive way
>actually just knocks her out and politely takes her home
What was his problem?
even killers can't kill their cute little sister.
especially if they dress like a panda and teach the martial arts.
Why does Nanaya know Bajiquan?
meds
you really don't know that Nanaya is Master Panda? It's obvious at this point with him showing up in her Last Arc in Lumina with the same voice as Shiki talking the same way and even protecting her life in P Ciel's Last Arc.
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Master_Panda
He BEHEADS Akiha
>He BEHEADS Akiha
Akiha is not either cute or his true sister
>You're right
>Akiha is not my sister
>Akiha is my woman
kotarou from rewrite
Banana Shiki
Will Kagetsu Tohya get remade?
god I hope no
Anon if stop taking my meds I would become based as Shiki?
you gotta take Kohaku's crazy plant meds to become based like Shiki and a GigaChad like Nanaya
Are you excited for sister Kiara from the Burial Agency in Tsukihime 2
Yes
She wasn't killed by Redman?
Not in Tsuki worlds.
She is part of the Burial Agency.
She isn't even christian
Don't think the Burial Agency cares if you believe or not as long as you get the job done.
>Kiara Sesshouin saved many lost people with the doctrine of Tachikawa-ryu as her foundation. The Church also acknowledges Kiara Sesshouin as a modern prophet, due to the opinion of a certain Cardinal; one of the candidates for the next Pope.
This is from Extra CCC. Fun fact: the cardinal mentionned there is Laurentius, Mario's "father".
If she that good why Alaya compelled Shirou to kill her in Alter Emiya timeline?
She's hyper dangerous in the EXTRA worlds. The Kiara indigenous to the FGO timeline was actually a decent person, but got taken over and erased by the Kiara from EXTRA. Kiara isn't destined to be evil in all timelines.
She isn't "good", but people think she is because of how talented she is.
>The horns jutting from her head are devil horns. This shows that she is the enemy of the enlightened (buddhas). She is the embodiment of self-love, and prioritizes pleasure over everything else. Her pleasure is achieved by using human lives and treating them as sustenance. She is a walking disaster for man and beast alike.
>Those who met this woman were touched by her great kindness and would devotedly follow her as though she has cast a spell upon them. After that, due to her great desire to be loved, she would (foolishly) use them to indulge in her sexual desires. The problem is that the more you fulfill your sexual desires, the less satisfying it becomes to do so.
>This woman has no desire for dilute, unsatisfying “pleasure.” Her followers would fall into despair because she no longer showed any concern for them, “She won’t love us ever again.” and thus they end their lives. In the end, the victims had their bodies and everything they had completely devoured by her.
>She is certainly guilty, but since all her followers who committed suicide were thankful to her, she was unable to be charged and prosecuted. It goes without saying, her followers were simply mistakenly appreciative of her, or were deceived. Her followers were vaguely aware of the fact that she was not a saint, but actually a devil, but they were unable to escape from her devilish grasp, and found their lives degenerating.
>This evil spirit of a woman lies to herself about nothing, but soaks her words with lies to entrap everyone around her as food; their lives expended completely for her own sake. The absoluteness of her ego, her unwavering attitude towards everything; to a regular person it might seem as though she is on the border of enlightenment. If there were a specific reason that her followers called her a “saint,” it would be because at this characteristic
>kiarabortion
please god no
Are your not charmed by her wit, elegance and wisdom?
She is Nasu's fave for a reason
Nasu loves his evil women, but I doubt we'll actually see her ever in a mainline Tsuki work.
I doubt Tsukihime 2 will happen if Nasu isn't willing to change his aschually all girls and route are canon in a mashed route for a quasi sequel attitude he took for H/A and KT
I mean he picked Arc's good end as the ending that continues into KT.
That's because that's the only ending that has Arcueid actively present. No other ending really allows for Arcueid to stick around.
I could easily a Tsukihime 2 being Shiki looking for Arc. I doubt Tsukihime 2 will be a VN that has the other girl's routes. Nasu's talked about wanting to make an open world game so could see Tsuki 2 being that or a spin-off at least.
>open world game
Fate x Persona Crossover prepare to have Social Links with Servant like idk somebody tell me 100% new servants
Extra is kinda like a Fate x Persona already. CCC even has "dungeons" modeled around characters' psychological issues.
you already have Extra Remake for that.
I mean a game with full date sim elements like persona
If UBW is remade Nasu would change Archer killing sandBlack folk in middle east to Archer killing snowBlack folk in Ukraine?
have a nice day Nasu
that is not Arcueid
and that shit you call a VN is not Tsukihime
Is Shiki still an irredeemable rapist in the remake?
Going to end the thread with Tsukihime. Who is your Tsukihime wife? For me, it's Akiha.
Jesus, you guys suck. I'll do it myself.
Sorry for me its it's close between Arc, Ciel and Akiha but Ciel is my absolute favourite wife.
Ciel canonically fricked Shirou and gifted his red cloak
Hisui
Hisui is cute
I want gently bite Hisui breasts
None, that's all Shiki's territory. Those b***hes are crazy!
great thread morons, only 20% of this shit was tsukihime related.
>thread about "guys the translation is out"
>it's not out unless you know how to mess around with compiling patches
I blame OP
>tfw its 2007, negima and tsukihime are my favorite reads and i'm playing halo 2 on xbox
I want my teenage years back.
Do you have fate/Tsukihime/type moon threads here often?
They only show up on occasion, but when they do, all of the nasuverse morons come out of the woodwork. /jp/, Ganker, doesn't matter.
Melty Blood and FSN threads are always full of nothing but bait. GO and priliya threads are just people saving sexy images from Gelbooru/Danbooru/Pixiv
Prillya "threads" are a great way to get caught in mod crossfire. Melty threads used to be good, but after Type Lumina released, they're nothing but bitterness. It's a shame.
I will always wait for the return of the once and future King!
Anons I tried to summon a e-girl Servant and summoned a primordial demon instead help!
So this is how Roa's possession started.
I'm gonna rape Satsuki don't try to stop me.
who?
Too late, I've already tenderly loved her first!
Why you posted a blank pic?
It is a mystery
Go rape your wife, Sion instead Ries.
Why Fate Ganker Fate threads so much better than Ganker?
Probably because we get actual discussion here. Plus the wormgay can't shit up the threads like they do there.
>Why Fate Ganker Fate threads so much better than Ganker?
there is no wormbawd morons larping about canon wife
More Melty players means more people who have actually read the VNs
Not an anime board so less animeonlys
No sakuragays
So how do I go about playing this? I can't download it from the site
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>thread filled with sakuragays is completely unusable
>thread filled with sabergays actually discusses the VNs
What about the Ringays then
>What about the Ringays then
to busy fapping
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