Thunderus wasn't normal powercreep, Thunderus was so fricking broken they had to nerf like 6 of its mechanics
That's like saying Scizor got powercrept by Genesect
Unironically it would have been OU if it didn’t receive Zap Cannon instead of Hurricane for some reason, but even then, being great in UU and still good/usable in OU is very respectable.
Plenty of old box legends that used to be good like Lugia are garbage in Ubers now but rot away in the tier because they're too strong for OU. Reshiram, in fact, has never been good. Not to mention that Zamazenta-Hero has fallen to OU.
lugia's never ending up in OU. if it's ever let outside of an ubers environment it can just run calm mind sets and rape the entire tier with its ludicrous bulk, ridiculous movepool, and unreasonable speed for something that fat.
seriously, people forget that for some godforsaken reason lugia has 110 fricking speed.
90 spa might be shit but it's not so bad when you can set up on literally everything and its mother thanks to multiscale, trademark lugia bulk, and now tera to no-sell checks like kingambit.
Lugia is so bulky as to make Toxapex look like Lucario. Unless you took away its set up moves and just gave it Roost + Aeroblast + Psychic + Surf as its only viable moves, Lugia isn't seeing OU ever.
It's literally only gotten better with age despite receiving few direct buffs.
It just happens to be really good at abusing modern mechanics and gimmicks.
>Dragonite thriving
Thanks to being given several buffs while Garchomp gets nothing. Dragonite has gotten: >Dragon Dance >One of the top 10 strongest abilities in Pokemon history, shared only with Lugia >Roost >Extreme Speed, the best priority move in Pokemon >Ice Spinner >Thunder Wave >Dragon Tail
Meanwhile, all Garchomp has gotten since its debut is >Spikes >Stealth Rocks >Dragon Tail
>shitnite buffed by boots last gen, with multiscale is cheap as shit >shitnite doesnt lose a single useful move, gains ice spinner for some reason >tera favours dnite immensely due to espeed spam >chomp gains nothing, loses the only buff it ever received aka scale shot >tera doesn't help it in any way since its movepool is limited
KANTOOOOOOOOOO
>few direct buffs
Extreme speed and multi scale are a little bit more than "direct buffs". Thats already far more than what most pokemon including pseudos get.
>playing with my brother >beat his ass a couple if weeks ago with a full box legendary team with Moody >he tries it this week >go ditto! >scarf go brrrrr
Too ez
It's literally only gotten better with age despite receiving few direct buffs.
It just happens to be really good at abusing modern mechanics and gimmicks.
Had a brief dark age before gen 5 when it was bargain bin Salamence
My experience with VGC isnt the best but afaik pic related still sees a lot of usage there.
How was Arcanine in VGC during the time Incineroar was around? Was it still good or outclassed?
>How was Arcanine in VGC during the time Incineroar was around? Was it still good or outclassed?
It was completely outclassed. It does the same things but without fake out, parting shot and a second STAB.
thats part of it as pokemon it stone walled like Espathra and Chi-yu would just turn fighting type but...
>no buffs for 3 gens >lost pursuit and toxic >best sand abusers are Lycanroc and Houndstone (last respects is banned) >two sand abusers compared to the dozen swift swimmers and protosynthesis mons >tons of bulky ground types >close combat and body press on every other pokemon >still no physical rock move that is 100% accurate
Even though its never gotten any special snowflake gimmick, It gets so many extra goodies just by virtue of being a GenWun Pokemon that they just add up.
Hey better than Gen 2 pokemon
Psychic types and hyper beam being nerfed didn't help the Gen 1 meta carrying forward though
reminder that Game Freak left several Gen 2 Pokemon as weak shingle stagers for years (some even decades) and used the extra dex space to add in a bunch of worthless babies of GenWun Pokémon. Either Game Freak just so happened to forget how the make functional Pokemon in Gen 2 specifically since the shitmon complaint never comes up for other gens, or Game Freak just hated Gen 2 Pokemon and created them to make GenWun look stronger.
Gen 2 wasn't intended to be gen 2, it was intended to be an expansion pack to gen 1. They were scared to replace any of the 151 so they broke out the beta designs that didn't make the cut, a handful of new designs that didn't encroach on the originals, and the babbies for marketing.
>beta designs that didn't make the cut
except we've seen beta mons from Gen 1. everything that was excluded from the final Gen 1 was also not added into the final Gen 2. (I think some appear in the Gen 2 beta but they ended up getting cut any way)
The design and iteration process didn't stop and start as the game development started and stopped. Maybe it's wrong to say the Johtomons were leftover beta designs, but my point is that they were all come up with either during the Gen 1 development, cut, and then reworked into final designs for Gen 2 or else were just random doodles that were good enough for the expansion pack. They were never intended to be a 'new' generation because GF didn't have any idea how they were going to serialize the games. Gen 3 and onwards only happened the way it did because Gamefreak figured out they could sell remakes of previous generations along with the new dex and keep everything compatible.
Gen 2 wasn't meant to be its own separate thing. It was originally made as Pocket Monsters 2. With the idea of it being the same world but more of it. Like instead of just Kanto you go around all of Japan. The monsters came from unused designs plus new ones created during development and went on many iterations until it was changed to be the region just by Kanto based in Kansai but the monsters themselves where still complement of the original 151 and not replacements like it will happen in future generations. You were expected to play with Gen 1 Pokémon with some of the new ones sprinkled in. In fact the idea of Gen 1 and Gen 2 didn't even exist then. The new Pokémon were just that, new Pokémon discovered.
>reminder that Game Freak left several Gen 2 Pokemon as weak shingle stagers for years (some even decades) and used the extra dex space to add in a bunch of worthless babies of GenWun Pokémon. Either Game Freak just so happened to forget how the make functional Pokemon in Gen 2 specifically since the shitmon complaint never comes up for other gens, or Game Freak just hated Gen 2 Pokemon and created them to make GenWun look stronger.
The babies and a bunch of other shitmons were meant to sell the collection aspect that wasn't intended when Gen 1 was made, but became sort of the defining aspect.
Truth is Dragonite keeps getting indirectly buffed after Gen 5. >Defog buffed to remove hazards in Gen 6 >Defog given to so much shit in Gen 7 >HDBs introduced in Gen 8 >Terastallization introduced in Gen 9, letting it get STAB on Extreme Speed and remove its x4 weakness to Ice. And with Multiscale, pretty much everything besides Fighting moves acts as a resist for 1 turn
Also Multiscale thrives in more offensive metas where you can tank bigger hits while Dragon Dance + E-speed is more often able to win the game outright.
What do you call Azumarill's scenario? Reverse powercreep? Started as an absolutely awful shitmon shillmon's evo before slowly working its way into being great.
>Gen3 Huge Power >Gen4 Physical Water Stab + Aqua Jet >Gen5 Rain outside of uber >Gen6 Fairy type
What is it with Azumarill? I can't think of any other mon that just get constant buffs each gen
Made me recall how I was playing Showdown and lurking Showderp at the same time, used that gimmicky set involving Bulk Up from the thread, then was met with exclamations along the lines of >REEE HOW DID THE GOY KNOW
He's no longer the king of genies, Tornadus stole the crown
Made me recall how I was playing Showdown and lurking Showderp at the same time, used that gimmicky set involving Bulk Up from the thread, then was met with exclamations along the lines of >REEE HOW DID THE GOY KNOW
Lando-Incarnate is way stronger. It's faster and hits WAY harder. It's the King Mixed attacker. Set up one Nasty Plot, and it's the wall breaker of your dreams.
>U-Turn stall >Regenerator >Paralysis
There is a reason why their Incanrante forms are in RU, and their Incarnate forms are in UU. They got power crept. Tornadus is used in VGC a lot because of Prankster and it's new move Bleakwind Storm.
Feraligatr is and always was fricking garbage along with nearly every Gen 2 mon competitively and its NEVER going to get buffed or a variant form to bring it to relevance because GameFreak hates Johto.
>or a variant form to bring it to relevance
Why would you want an edgy new form that defile the original design?
It isn't worth it. And Regional forms just make people hate the orignal form more. Look at the Samurott
Actually, yes. Despite being from the only set of starters Game Freak hates, Gatr has only gotten better over time. Its never been OU but its been respectable since it got Physical Water moves, and been good ever since it got Sheer Force. Problem it got Sheer Force extremely late in Gen 6, Gen 7 had insane powercreep and it was Dexited in Gen 8. so it hasn't had much change to actually show off its power. But I see it being a solid UU choice when it returns in Gen 9 and UU now is probably even stronger than last Gen's OU.
BDSP got removed from ladder because it was so bad no one wanted to play it. Zapdos was a shitmon barely in RU in BDSP because it had literally only Electric moves.
Not amazing. It's worse than Gyarados in some ways, but still really good with Dragon or Swords Dance. One of the few physical mons that has the movepool to warrant Sheer Force.
Bulky offense. Immune to power creep cause they're focused on staying power. Yes, it takes another hit to kill the opponent, but who cares? You should always use stealth rocks anyway like 15 years ago.
I was about to comment Chansey and Blissey which even after 9 gens still has one of the most minmaxed stats of all time but it turns out they are PU and NU respectively? What the frick happened? They were still UU and OU just 1 gen ago
Stall is no longer an effective strategy and their classic defensive cores are easily disrupter.
That said Chansey and Blissey are like Ditto and Smeargle now: they're perfectly viable and balanced in all tiers without warranting a ban.
You can use them in NU just as well as in Ubers.
>No Toxic >Only 8pp for healing >No Teleport >Literally has started running Shadow Ball in its 4th move slot because it has nothing else to run besides Softboiled and Seismic Toss
Look DD Chomp wouldn't be bad but if OU can handle Baxcalibur (it can't but let's pretend it can since it won't be banned any time soon) it can handle DD Chomp.
Grim Neigh is just that good. Spectrier is also tankier and hits harder with 5 less base speed. It learns Draining Kiss now, so it gets Ghost + Fairy coverage like Flutter Mane. Really all Flutter Mane has over it is the +5 base speed stat and it pairs well with Koraidon and Groudon.
Grim Neigh isn't nearly as good as protosynthesis.
Flutter naturally outspeeds Spectrier and keeps it in check, while also being able to outdamage it depending on how it's built.
Natural dual STAB means that Flutter gets to run multiple tera sets increasing its versatility, and dazzling gleam keeps it at the top of doubles too.
Inconsistent bulk doesn't matter when you can just outspeed and kill anything straight away.
Thunderus wasn't normal powercreep, Thunderus was so fricking broken they had to nerf like 6 of its mechanics
That's like saying Scizor got powercrept by Genesect
>UU for ONE(1) generation but still viable in OU
>OU for remaining 8 generations
Unironically it would have been OU if it didn’t receive Zap Cannon instead of Hurricane for some reason, but even then, being great in UU and still good/usable in OU is very respectable.
Zapdos was actually OU for most of Gen 5. It just fell out of favor towards the end when the tiers ossified.
That piece of shit french bird fricked it over for a while there but it's doing better than ever.
>Bugs are not competitively vi-ACK
any box legendary
Plenty of old box legends that used to be good like Lugia are garbage in Ubers now but rot away in the tier because they're too strong for OU. Reshiram, in fact, has never been good. Not to mention that Zamazenta-Hero has fallen to OU.
>Zamacenta OU
>Lugia will probably fall lower than OU without Toxic
Zamazenta wasn't power crept, it was just born a bit shitty
lugia's never ending up in OU. if it's ever let outside of an ubers environment it can just run calm mind sets and rape the entire tier with its ludicrous bulk, ridiculous movepool, and unreasonable speed for something that fat.
seriously, people forget that for some godforsaken reason lugia has 110 fricking speed.
90 spa might be shit but it's not so bad when you can set up on literally everything and its mother thanks to multiscale, trademark lugia bulk, and now tera to no-sell checks like kingambit.
Lugia is so bulky as to make Toxapex look like Lucario. Unless you took away its set up moves and just gave it Roost + Aeroblast + Psychic + Surf as its only viable moves, Lugia isn't seeing OU ever.
Lugia's never going to be allowed to play in OU. It's the Bulky Mon to end all Bulky Mons
i thought tyranitar and skarmory would be ou forever
Gen8 ruined that, another reason why SwShit were the worse games
Atleast it was somewhat relevant in Gen 8, in Gen 9 its a borderline shitmon.
One of the good things it did. Frick Tyranitar
Tyranitar likely would have been if they didn't remove its best tool. Skarmory just got a bum deal because Better Skarmory was introduced.
It's literally only gotten better with age despite receiving few direct buffs.
It just happens to be really good at abusing modern mechanics and gimmicks.
That’s just GenWun privilege
There is no genwun privilege in competitive Pokemon. Most gen 1 Pokemon are so bad it's depressing.
Hey better than Gen 2 pokemon
Psychic types and hyper beam being nerfed didn't help the Gen 1 meta carrying forward though
And that's a good thing!
It helps that Dragonite learns 90% of all moves
The moment we got the full details of tera mechanics I knew DNite was gonna be a menace with it.
>Dragonite thriving
>Garchud teetering on UU
feels good
>Ttar in fricking RU
Not like this bros
Meanwhile there are Pokemon that...
Nevermind, frick it.
Lancebros winning again
>garchud
>not garchump
One job.
>Dragonite thriving
Thanks to being given several buffs while Garchomp gets nothing. Dragonite has gotten:
>Dragon Dance
>One of the top 10 strongest abilities in Pokemon history, shared only with Lugia
>Roost
>Extreme Speed, the best priority move in Pokemon
>Ice Spinner
>Thunder Wave
>Dragon Tail
Meanwhile, all Garchomp has gotten since its debut is
>Spikes
>Stealth Rocks
>Dragon Tail
>shitnite buffed by boots last gen, with multiscale is cheap as shit
>shitnite doesnt lose a single useful move, gains ice spinner for some reason
>tera favours dnite immensely due to espeed spam
>chomp gains nothing, loses the only buff it ever received aka scale shot
>tera doesn't help it in any way since its movepool is limited
KANTOOOOOOOOOO
>few direct buffs
Extreme speed and multi scale are a little bit more than "direct buffs". Thats already far more than what most pokemon including pseudos get.
>playing with my brother
>beat his ass a couple if weeks ago with a full box legendary team with Moody
>he tries it this week
>go ditto!
>scarf go brrrrr
Too ez
Using Ditto during SwSh was amazing. Dynamax/imposter on their last turn with their boosted stats.
Unusable before imposter
Had a brief dark age before gen 5 when it was bargain bin Salamence
Dragonite's only really unimpressive in Gen 3. Post-Mence ban in Gen 4 it ruled OU
It will always be great.
It's been OU for only 1 generation (9).
It's also been top 10 in VGC in every generation
VGC is fanfic format. Doubles is a meme.
Gastrodon and Quagsire.
My experience with VGC isnt the best but afaik pic related still sees a lot of usage there.
How was Arcanine in VGC during the time Incineroar was around? Was it still good or outclassed?
>How was Arcanine in VGC during the time Incineroar was around? Was it still good or outclassed?
It was completely outclassed. It does the same things but without fake out, parting shot and a second STAB.
Arcanine is a direct downgrade from Incineroar, it's only used when Incineroar isn't available.
Good 'ol Hellfrog
He's pretty mid in current OU. Ting-Lu does his job better.
Dominant in VGC though
>volcano frog
>lost eruption
ill never forgive them. offensive heatran was fun nobody expected it
dont particular like this turd of a pokemon but thats fricked
Canonically accurate
Even Tyranitar got hit by it because of a stupid gimmick. Nothing is immune.
thats part of it as pokemon it stone walled like Espathra and Chi-yu would just turn fighting type but...
>no buffs for 3 gens
>lost pursuit and toxic
>best sand abusers are Lycanroc and Houndstone (last respects is banned)
>two sand abusers compared to the dozen swift swimmers and protosynthesis mons
>tons of bulky ground types
>close combat and body press on every other pokemon
>still no physical rock move that is 100% accurate
feels badman
you forgot
>lost rock polish so no sneaky special ttar
How does Dragonite keep on getting better when it seems like it already hit its peak?
I suppose Agility Wrap in Gen 1 if you didn't lead with thunder wave or have Gengar was the pinnacle
Even though its never gotten any special snowflake gimmick, It gets so many extra goodies just by virtue of being a GenWun Pokemon that they just add up.
reminder that Game Freak left several Gen 2 Pokemon as weak shingle stagers for years (some even decades) and used the extra dex space to add in a bunch of worthless babies of GenWun Pokémon. Either Game Freak just so happened to forget how the make functional Pokemon in Gen 2 specifically since the shitmon complaint never comes up for other gens, or Game Freak just hated Gen 2 Pokemon and created them to make GenWun look stronger.
Gen 2 wasn't intended to be gen 2, it was intended to be an expansion pack to gen 1. They were scared to replace any of the 151 so they broke out the beta designs that didn't make the cut, a handful of new designs that didn't encroach on the originals, and the babbies for marketing.
>beta designs that didn't make the cut
except we've seen beta mons from Gen 1. everything that was excluded from the final Gen 1 was also not added into the final Gen 2. (I think some appear in the Gen 2 beta but they ended up getting cut any way)
One of the cut gen1 mons was redesigned into tyranitar, also we don't know all of the cut pokemon form gen1
The design and iteration process didn't stop and start as the game development started and stopped. Maybe it's wrong to say the Johtomons were leftover beta designs, but my point is that they were all come up with either during the Gen 1 development, cut, and then reworked into final designs for Gen 2 or else were just random doodles that were good enough for the expansion pack. They were never intended to be a 'new' generation because GF didn't have any idea how they were going to serialize the games. Gen 3 and onwards only happened the way it did because Gamefreak figured out they could sell remakes of previous generations along with the new dex and keep everything compatible.
Gen 2 wasn't meant to be its own separate thing. It was originally made as Pocket Monsters 2. With the idea of it being the same world but more of it. Like instead of just Kanto you go around all of Japan. The monsters came from unused designs plus new ones created during development and went on many iterations until it was changed to be the region just by Kanto based in Kansai but the monsters themselves where still complement of the original 151 and not replacements like it will happen in future generations. You were expected to play with Gen 1 Pokémon with some of the new ones sprinkled in. In fact the idea of Gen 1 and Gen 2 didn't even exist then. The new Pokémon were just that, new Pokémon discovered.
>reminder that Game Freak left several Gen 2 Pokemon as weak shingle stagers for years (some even decades) and used the extra dex space to add in a bunch of worthless babies of GenWun Pokémon. Either Game Freak just so happened to forget how the make functional Pokemon in Gen 2 specifically since the shitmon complaint never comes up for other gens, or Game Freak just hated Gen 2 Pokemon and created them to make GenWun look stronger.
The babies and a bunch of other shitmons were meant to sell the collection aspect that wasn't intended when Gen 1 was made, but became sort of the defining aspect.
It's bulky, has a very broad movepool (including rare moves like Extreme Speed), and Multiscale is a good Ability.
Truth is Dragonite keeps getting indirectly buffed after Gen 5.
>Defog buffed to remove hazards in Gen 6
>Defog given to so much shit in Gen 7
>HDBs introduced in Gen 8
>Terastallization introduced in Gen 9, letting it get STAB on Extreme Speed and remove its x4 weakness to Ice. And with Multiscale, pretty much everything besides Fighting moves acts as a resist for 1 turn
Also Multiscale thrives in more offensive metas where you can tank bigger hits while Dragon Dance + E-speed is more often able to win the game outright.
What do you call Azumarill's scenario? Reverse powercreep? Started as an absolutely awful shitmon shillmon's evo before slowly working its way into being great.
>Gen3 Huge Power
>Gen4 Physical Water Stab + Aqua Jet
>Gen5 Rain outside of uber
>Gen6 Fairy type
What is it with Azumarill? I can't think of any other mon that just get constant buffs each gen
surprised no one mentioned him yet
He's no longer the king of genies, Tornadus stole the crown
Made me recall how I was playing Showdown and lurking Showderp at the same time, used that gimmicky set involving Bulk Up from the thread, then was met with exclamations along the lines of
>REEE HOW DID THE GOY KNOW
Lando-Incarnate is way stronger. It's faster and hits WAY harder. It's the King Mixed attacker. Set up one Nasty Plot, and it's the wall breaker of your dreams.
He's a very good special attacker but other genies have more utility
>U-Turn stall
>Regenerator
>Paralysis
There is a reason why their Incanrante forms are in RU, and their Incarnate forms are in UU. They got power crept. Tornadus is used in VGC a lot because of Prankster and it's new move Bleakwind Storm.
>dog
>awful Twitter meme
It’s no longer called Twitter.
replaced by landorus at home
I don't actually play pokémon. Is my favourite mon any good?
Pretty decent with Sheer Force, was like UU level consistently, but hasn't been around since Gen 7 unfortunately
Feraligatr is and always was fricking garbage along with nearly every Gen 2 mon competitively and its NEVER going to get buffed or a variant form to bring it to relevance because GameFreak hates Johto.
>or a variant form to bring it to relevance
Why would you want an edgy new form that defile the original design?
It isn't worth it. And Regional forms just make people hate the orignal form more. Look at the Samurott
Actually, yes. Despite being from the only set of starters Game Freak hates, Gatr has only gotten better over time. Its never been OU but its been respectable since it got Physical Water moves, and been good ever since it got Sheer Force. Problem it got Sheer Force extremely late in Gen 6, Gen 7 had insane powercreep and it was Dexited in Gen 8. so it hasn't had much change to actually show off its power. But I see it being a solid UU choice when it returns in Gen 9 and UU now is probably even stronger than last Gen's OU.
If I remember correctly Feraligatr is OU in >BDSP
>is
Was
BDSP got removed from ladder because it was so bad no one wanted to play it. Zapdos was a shitmon barely in RU in BDSP because it had literally only Electric moves.
Not amazing. It's worse than Gyarados in some ways, but still really good with Dragon or Swords Dance. One of the few physical mons that has the movepool to warrant Sheer Force.
good for him
>NU/PU
>Still regularly used and has movesets for every tier up to ubers
This slug is too versatile
FRICK POWER CREEP!
Bulky offense. Immune to power creep cause they're focused on staying power. Yes, it takes another hit to kill the opponent, but who cares? You should always use stealth rocks anyway like 15 years ago.
Much better than it's discount counterpart (Dragonite)
>anon thinks he's in 2014
I was about to comment Chansey and Blissey which even after 9 gens still has one of the most minmaxed stats of all time but it turns out they are PU and NU respectively? What the frick happened? They were still UU and OU just 1 gen ago
Stall is no longer an effective strategy and their classic defensive cores are easily disrupter.
That said Chansey and Blissey are like Ditto and Smeargle now: they're perfectly viable and balanced in all tiers without warranting a ban.
You can use them in NU just as well as in Ubers.
The loss of Toxic and Softboiled’s PP getting reduced really gutted them.
>No Toxic
>Only 8pp for healing
>No Teleport
>Literally has started running Shadow Ball in its 4th move slot because it has nothing else to run besides Softboiled and Seismic Toss
Basically all Gen 5 mons still used competitively since then.
His time is running out, anon
he will be back to OU with ScaleShot in DLC
with DD he would never ever leave Ubers
>DD
DD isnt enough at this point. It needs strong priority to take advantage of swords dance. Extreme speed and sucker punch are used everywhere in OU
>DD isnt enough at this point.
lol with DD it would be a better Volcarona
Look DD Chomp wouldn't be bad but if OU can handle Baxcalibur (it can't but let's pretend it can since it won't be banned any time soon) it can handle DD Chomp.
DD Chomp > DD Bax
Baxcalibur fell to UU earlier in the gen because it really is not that good.
And Espathra fell to UU early in the gen too, what's your point?
it will be a sad day when chomp leaves us
In terms of UU power levels, what about Nidoking? Massive movepool + Sheer Force seems to do wonders for consistency
>got a buff to attack instead of special attack
I will never forgive masuda
What is the most consistent NU Mon?
Rotom-Base
They had to resort to outright nerfing this guy in order to knock him out of the meta. And he's still not terrible by any stretch.
They made three Pokemon that do the exact same thing but better
Calyrex shadow > Flutter mane > Spectrier > Gengar
Calyrex-Shadow > Mega Gengar > Lunala > Spectrier > Flutter Mane > Necrozma-DW > Dragapult > Gengar > Mismagius
>Spectrier > Flutter Mane
What?
Grim Neigh is just that good. Spectrier is also tankier and hits harder with 5 less base speed. It learns Draining Kiss now, so it gets Ghost + Fairy coverage like Flutter Mane. Really all Flutter Mane has over it is the +5 base speed stat and it pairs well with Koraidon and Groudon.
Grim Neigh isn't nearly as good as protosynthesis.
Flutter naturally outspeeds Spectrier and keeps it in check, while also being able to outdamage it depending on how it's built.
Natural dual STAB means that Flutter gets to run multiple tera sets increasing its versatility, and dazzling gleam keeps it at the top of doubles too.
Inconsistent bulk doesn't matter when you can just outspeed and kill anything straight away.
I find it funny how it's other forms (Gastly, Haunter, Mega-Gengar, Gmax-Gengar) are insta-uber'ed from their respective tiers.
He keeps getting better every game
Not anymore lol.
Mew unfortunately is RUBL after gen 9 cut it's moveset to ribbons.
>/vp/: uhhh i hate nugen shit
>also /vp/: uhh i hate kantooooo and genwunners
the frick do you even like?
Oblivious to power creep
look at this motherucker, he looks like he's immune to any bullshit you can throw at him
Enter
Hmm.
Today, I will learn Dragon Dance.
zapdos should lose U-turn.
Pursuit Tyranitar. He would be top 10 in usage, easily.