Like every other modern remake/game, it's very washed out and bright. I thought it was fine as someone who never played the original games but there are good comparisons on youtube and such.
>The opposite, really.
I think my definition of "washed out" might be wrong, because what I mean by that is that the colors look very WHITE or bleached to my eyes. It's very bright too, to an almost unreadable degree to me.
It plays and looks the exact same but there's far more bloom and less vibrant colors
Honestly I think emulating the PS2 version is better even if it's not the best game to emulate
So long as you check the psx2 wiki for fixes and use the nightly version you should be fine
Is... Klonoa a cat?
Also, Classic Sonic was the one based on Felix, the adventure design is pretty far removed. Klonoa looks like an Adventure-era Tails OC.
People who overanalyze children's media and try to project some deeper philosophical meaning onto it are pathetic man children. You can like something for what it is rather than what you want it to be and consume other media that actually tackles the themes you are looking for.
You really underestimate how seriously the author took the story in these games. The first game went through several rewrites and the author even rewrote the plot again as a "fanfiction" after the release of DtP.
Some people take their craft seriously, though you'd be right if this was a western game. Over here all games are merely seen as products to milk money customers. Westerners are completely incapable of creating meaningful stories in video games.
Not him, but maybe it's this story, here's a link to it thrown into google translate.
https://ncode-syosetu-com.translate.goog/n3757fc/1/?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
He's the type of person that would call me delusional for pointing out that there probably were people in the production team of LttP and OoT that were very familiar with The Hero with a Thousand Faces or had at the very least read it at some point in their lives.
>This piece of children's media about cute animals going on a adventurres is not comparable to another piece of children's media about cute animals going on adventures because... IT'S JUST NOT OKAY?!?!
Either you only played this as a kid, or you are moronic; I played Klonoa collection last year for the first time and these things were very obvious to me.
Also, why insist on robbing yourself of a fuller, richer experience by turning on just 2% of your brain when the art and message is right there for you? Are you really so desperate to prove how mature you are to anons that you insist on consuming content at such an unquestioning and vapid level?
There are a lot of moronic people who have no capacity for analysis or critical thinking. Even going on just surface level aesthetics you can figure out the 4 emotions thing and requires absolutely no subtext or deep analysis.
It's the same kind of people who can't comprehend metaphor at all and would read something like the The Grasshopper & The Ant and their takeaway would be that grasshoppers are buttholes.
No it's actually more like he's coming to terms with a repressed part of himself to form a more complete whole. Which is possibly why the game plays the ending scene with KoS as if it was almost an religious experience or a spiritual one more generally speaking. Which is also why I would guess is why Popka makes the rather cryptic comment about Klonoa reminding him a little bit about Goddess Claire.
ah yes all the traditional generic and tired bing bing wahoo tropes:
1. rocky stormy coast
2. mountain level with beautiful eastern architecture
3. amusement park
4. war torn shithole
5. Escher style museum
6. ancient ship with weird architecture
7. literal abstract art piece for final platforming level
vs. the unique and original atmosphere in DtP:
1.green fields
2. dark cave
3. water level
4. forest level
6. sun temple
7. moon castle
If by "soul" you mean recycling Door to Phantomile's story slapping an original cast and giving Persona-tier writing to the villain. He's le hecking Sorrow & shit!!!
Recycling what? There's a reason why they used such a weak and pathetic villain. If the intention was to slopmax the product they would have gone with the "bigger and better" route and reused shit like it was a Kirby sequel, which they actively avoided.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Kirby >reusing anything
Kek ok kid
that's why they had an easy to understand plot where they used the 4 tired elements that everyone already knows and under.... except they didn't do that and no one who has played the game is able to explain the plot without leaving plot threads dangling
>no one who has played the game is able to explain the plot without leaving plot threads dangling
Klonoa goes into a world as a dream and saves it, then leaves. It's the same shit as always.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Kirby doesn't recycle >all Klonoa games are le dreams so it's recycled content
frick man, put some work into your shitty bait
that's why they had an easy to understand plot where they used the 4 tired elements that everyone already knows and under.... except they didn't do that and no one who has played the game is able to explain the plot without leaving plot threads dangling
Was confused on why Did the guys needed to shut down the reactorts, just for them comming back and it did nothing, did not stop the ring creation, and they had to go back and turn off the damn things again.
I think that they wanted to what was right, and stop the reactors from blowing up.
In a city where everything is blowing up.
And the reactors blew up anyways once the Bell was rung by Leorina's ring.
You have to keep in mind that certain aspects of the plot are meant to be more symbolic than anything else. Like how the Kingdom of sorrow is above water in the ending, even though it should have been below sea level with how deep down it was.
I think that they wanted to what was right, and stop the reactors from blowing up.
In a city where everything is blowing up.
And the reactors blew up anyways once the Bell was rung by Leorina's ring.
there were 2 decoy reactors. leorina knew they would try to stop her so she had tat lead them to the 2 decoys.
there was a 3rd reactor that was overloading everything and destroying the city after Lorina range the bell. lolo wanted to shut it down instead of leaving.
I think he was trying to rationalize why there's Volk debris in the dark Sea of Tears level, though when I think about it, that took place before she rang the bell.
i've been obsessed with King of Sorrow ever since i saw him for the first time as a kid. still the strongest obsession i've ever had for a fictional character.
i have no idea. back then i didn't understand english as it's not my first language, so i didn't even know what he was saying. i guess he just happened to be the perfect combination of color and form that appeals to my autistic taste
Didn't he exist thousands of years before Klonoa arrived? He's quite literally the element of sorrow. His design reflecting Klonoa's is more symbolic, I think
The game tells you frick all about the conflict prior to the game, it was Ghadius that was said to have been banished for thousands of years.
In a cut line in DtP's ending Huepow tells Klonoa that he will someday be Klonoa's Phantomile. Even though they cut the line it seems they went ahead with that idea in the sequel regardless.
IIRC there's a scene on Lunatea's Veil that someone says Klonoa looks a lot like the former queen of the kingdom, there's a statue of that queen there and the queen is identical to King of Sorrow, just wearing a queen outfit instead of being naked.
>assuming any of them are worth a shit.
They have better level design but worse graphics, story, and music, so they're literally the opposite of what most Klonoagays like about the franchise kek.
Depends on if you're looking for more than good gameplay. None of them have anything that points to heavy themes like the console games. Dream Champ Tournament's story especially is just like a shitty Sonic fanfic. The train level looks cool tho.
Just decent gameplay is fine by me, was already expecting worse visuals/sound given they're majority handheld titles.
The two main Klonoa games are so fricking short that by the time you clear them you want more platforming stuff to do.
I started with Empire of Dreams and enjoyed it for being a more classic platformer, for some reason a lot of indie platformers had been rubbing me the wrong way for one reason or another, I would recommend them as underrated platformers if they're the only ones that existed, and I'd say the same about if the Wii version were the original. The PSX original version of DtP and Lunatea's Veil kind of blew me away with how much attention to small details those games put.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Klonoa looks so good when he's not at max gamma brightness.
That's adorable, anon.
Keep on being you.
>calling some 30+ year old NEET "adorable"
We are hitting levels of hidden discord admin erp channel that shouldn't even be possible.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Forgive the weird word choice then.
English isn't my first language.
11 months ago
Anonymous
shuush, they are flirting
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh frick off troony. Older autistic dudes can be cute too. Sorry you're jealous no one wants to look at your deformed body and call you adorable, freak.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you don't call guys cute >therefore YOU are the troon
No more (You)s from me after this, kek. This is too funny.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry troon, you've been called out. Ask your discord kitten to tell you how cute "she" is some more, you'll never be a woman.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Literally rent free
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Dude I'm totally a man grrr men are ugly and disgusting and we hate them right si-I mean bros
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes thanks for proving my point
11 months ago
Anonymous
Why do you hate men so much, freak? Don't deflect. Why do you force your way into an interaction to shame decent people? You don't have to answer, I know it's because you're an ugly broken subhuman.
11 months ago
Anonymous
get help
11 months ago
Anonymous
>N-no u
troony deflection as usual. You'll never be anything but a hateful ugly. You should try to get some help instead of spewing vitriol.
11 months ago
Anonymous
11 months ago
Anonymous
Totally dude. You're definitely not a hate-filled troon. I'm just imagining you trying to shame good men for existing and feeling normal. Deflect, deflect, deflect.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I hope you can get the help you need for your schizophrenia anon
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh frick off troony. Older autistic dudes can be cute too. Sorry you're jealous no one wants to look at your deformed body and call you adorable, freak.
>you don't call guys cute >therefore YOU are the troon
No more (You)s from me after this, kek. This is too funny.
Literally rent free
>Dude I'm totally a man grrr men are ugly and disgusting and we hate them right si-I mean bros
Yes thanks for proving my point
all me
11 months ago
Anonymous
>for some reason a lot of indie platformers had been rubbing me the wrong way for one reason or another
Probably because too many of them rely on floaty/flowy 'platforming', or lean too heavy into combat.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No there's a particular atmosphere to indie platformers that always feel off. There's something about them just feels insincere. That's the best word I can think for it.
Depends on if you're looking for more than good gameplay. None of them have anything that points to heavy themes like the console games. Dream Champ Tournament's story especially is just like a shitty Sonic fanfic. The train level looks cool tho.
I didn't understand Klonao 1 story, and confused about the ending. Was Klonao abducted to another world with false memories to defeat the evil? Was that not his real grandpa?. It sounds like twisted version of Kirby stories
>dream ending >literally all in le head
Yeah i agree, that's a pretty lame
Yes. Think Blade Runner. It was an inspiration for the story, after all. Klonoa is a replicant of dreams, summoned there to do his assigned job of defeating nightmares. Huepow gaslit him and gave him fake memories and a fake grandpa to keep alive the illusion of Phantomile being his home to ensure he did his job.
What do you mean by replicant? Do you mean like at one point there was two Klonaos? I'm still confused about the whole "dreams" aspect
Does Klonao 2 acknowledges what happened in Klonao 1?
>What do you mean by replicant? He is an empty vessel representing the player. Their Clone-oa. That's why he has to leave the dream world after the game is over, because you also leave by turning the game off after playing.
The dream stuff is kinda weird, because the 'dreams' he goes to are all clearly their own worlds with history and shit, and we don't know who the frick is dreaming them up.
And all we ever see of the "real world" is Klonoa's bed and house in the cancelled webcomic.
>And all we ever see of the "real world" is Klonoa's bed and house in the cancelled webcomic.
I have this theory that the reason why the side games and webcomic are different canon than the mainline console games is because the console games are the dream world, and the side games are his real world.
Yes. Think Blade Runner. It was an inspiration for the story, after all. Klonoa is a replicant of dreams, summoned there to do his assigned job of defeating nightmares. Huepow gaslit him and gave him fake memories and a fake grandpa to keep alive the illusion of Phantomile being his home to ensure he did his job.
He's a dream traveler. Sometimes it's his own dreams that let him travel to other worlds, sometimes the dream is like an alternate reality he gets called to.
TL;DR he could take Freddy Kruger in a fight
The weirdest thing about him traveling to dreams is that you still see the same enemies that you encounter in another dreams
It feels like all those dreams share one big world
>What do you mean by replicant? He is an empty vessel representing the player. Their Clone-oa. That's why he has to leave the dream world after the game is over, because you also leave by turning the game off after playing.
>He is an empty vessel representing the player. Their Clone-oa.
So you are saying that the Klonao we play as is a clone? What happened to the real Klonao?
I remember an anon theorising Klonoa 2 is specifically in Klonoa's mind, and it's him trying to handle the grief he felt from the first game. Someone screenshotted it but I don't know if anyone has it on had to post it.
The replicants in Blade Runner weren't "replicas" of people, they were replicas of humanity itself. It's the same here. You, the player, is the original one.
>dream ending >literally all in le head
Yeah i agree, that's a pretty lame
[...] What do you mean by replicant? Do you mean like at one point there was two Klonaos? I'm still confused about the whole "dreams" aspect
Does Klonao 2 acknowledges what happened in Klonao 1?
>Does Klonao 2 acknowledges what happened in Klonao 1?
The entire final section of Klonoa 2 has references to what happened in Klonoa 1.
>dream ending >literally all in le head
Yeah i agree, that's a pretty lame
[...] What do you mean by replicant? Do you mean like at one point there was two Klonaos? I'm still confused about the whole "dreams" aspect
Does Klonao 2 acknowledges what happened in Klonao 1?
>creator wanted to call the series Clonoa >Namco marketing said Clonoa looked too much like chlamydia and told him to change it >Namco marketed it as chlamydia anyways
I thought it was neat that since they have their own dialect(s) stuff gets pronounced differently like how Klonoa sounds like Kloa and Ghadius sounds like Ghadi.
His first draft in character design is a broken down ancient robot.
They had to re do that concept because it gave away too much of the story.
He's a robot.
A construct to be disposed of when his use is over.
>gave away too much of the story
Or just wasn't cute and marketable enough, Klonoa is the perfect reddit game and they knew that which is why everything is le cute but also has LE HECKIN DEEP LORE even though none of it makes sense and it's all moronic.
>talk to klonoagay >they tell you how much they love the games and everything they love about them >never end up mentioning the gameplay
Every time lmao
I for one did not hate the english voice acting, aside from Klonoa's WAHOO which is too bad because he says it a lot. The volleyball voices sounded more fitting.
They used dubbed voices for the Wiimake (English/Japanese/Spanish/French/Italian/German), and the same languages for Beach Volleyball
There was a Phantomilian dub in the Wiimake, but you had to select it in options.
It doesn't make sense for that to be the case. The both of them just happen to have minimal porn and it's all bad. except the Klonoa stuff where he has a huge wiener
why didn't they just make an open world klonoa game where he gets petted by old men and snuggles in their warm lap and starts purring and they rub his warm fluffy belly.
>pacman
I know that there's no dishonesty in your post, but seriously that's like comparing fruit to meat which no one would think of nor do as a comparison.
nothing does, pac-man is so non-descript in his original arcade incarnations any attempt at fleshing out his universe falls flat and feels out of place
>pacman
I know that there's no dishonesty in your post, but seriously that's like comparing fruit to meat which no one would think of nor do as a comparison.
I'm not sure but it doesn't look like you understand his post, she is quite literally a Pacman character.
I do and you're very much right, that is a pac man character but it just doesn't make sense to me, something like a anthropomorphic fruit would make more sense to me as a pacman character.
True kek but I've got no complaints with her. I kind of wish they did more with her actually, saying she's in "literally who" territory would be an understatement.
I use and accept pronouns, I'll call anyone whatever they ask of me but if you have he or she as an option 99.9% of people will use it and needing to specify he/they is moronic since everyone calls everyone they at some point depending on the sentence and no one is going to strive for they unless they want to kiss your ass. Essentially in my experience signaling pronouns is moronic unless you're in danger of being misgendered somehow (A non-issue for most people, including trans people) and it would really bother you to ask for a small correction.
All that being said, the comment was about Klonoa, Klonoa is cis he/him. He wouldn't need pronouns in a display name.
Explain how what I said was bigoted. Break it down for me. I love to learn and grow as a person.
11 months ago
Anonymous
every gender is valid
11 months ago
Anonymous
I agree, you should be yourself and people should use your pronouns good. What does that have to do with the practicality of pronoun displays or a need to specify they in addition to he or she? My points were: >If you accept he or she, everyone will use that. Specifying he/they or she/they to me is pointless since you're functionally not changing anything compared to a he/him or she/her. Everyone in the English speaking world accepts they/them pronouns for themselves. >The amount of people who are in danger of being misgendered even among trans people is miniscule. Most people signal gender enough for strangers to get it right just by looking. By my observation the only people who need to do it are those who exclusively accept they/them.
I half expected the GBA games to be DLC as part of PRS, but I guess the developers already abandoned support for PRS to work on porting We <3 Katamari.
People who don't see the obvious cinematography in the klonoa games completely forget that the guy who made Klonoa literally invented cutscenes in video games.
It's fricked to think about.
I love that schizophrenic comment I once read on some youtube video of an extension of the ruins of sadness music
Something about Klonoa achieving "The Death' after he wins.
Little bit sad, m8,
That is a very Greek interpretation of the story. At least in my schizo headcanon he got over what was bothering him since DtP over the duration of the story and was made ready for more challenging tasks. Essentially it made the bittersweet ending actually a happy one.
I love how stoic he is throughout the entire second game.
Like the first game fricked him up but he's still confident in his abilities.
And how in the end, instead of fighting the void, he just walks through it and peace's out.
Real shit.
It's fun adventure vibes all through the sun kingdom. In fact Joka is more upset at Klonoa than Klonoa is at him, and for the rest of the time Klonoa is just reacting to events as they happen. That death scene is so glossed over I sometimes wonder if it was just there for pointless shock value or if through all the rewrites its significance was dropped along the way. You could have Joka just sneak in and steal the pendant and change literally nothing else and the story would still play out the same.
11 months ago
Anonymous
or maybe Klonoa is a little kid that lives in the moment more than anything?
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, it's just that they decided to limit themselves to really short cutscenes that show the bare minimum to progress the story.
well, huepow told him "little fricker, stop crying and go for that shit, or we will be doom"
maybe not with thouse words or that tone, but that is why you get over it, or you wanted to have Klonoa saying at the end of each chapter "You know, Im still really sad that my grampa is dead"
Any kind of follow up for a major story event like that would have been nice. I would have settled for him having at least one line about it when confronting Joka and as a bonus, maybe a single mention at the end when he and Huepow were sitting together. As it is, like I said the scene of him getting killed is completely pointless.
11 months ago
Anonymous
well, huepow told him "little fricker, stop crying and go for that shit, or we will be doom"
maybe not with thouse words or that tone, but that is why you get over it, or you wanted to have Klonoa saying at the end of each chapter "You know, Im still really sad that my grampa is dead"
I just wanted to capture some of the magic from the mainline games, the engine itself was playable enough but I never got around to implementing some of the more advanced features. It was even featured on the channel of that one fan that posts a lot of videos of the official games and is in a playable state.
I'm making a Zelda like game currently but the engine I'm working on now is flexible as hell, and will probably be used to power a Klonoa fan game at some point.
I was the anon that were posting all the "Lunatea represents Klonoa's mind" related stuff and they're mostly based on the theories of the psyche by Carl Jung, who was a Swiss psychologist that focused a lot of his work on patterns in dreams and derangements of schizophrenic patients, and is partly the reason I have some renewed interest in the franchise because of that, because it gave me an idea of how I could write interesting stories for a potential fangame.
Nta but if you haven't heard of it, there's a virtual console called pico-8 that has a low bar for entry that a lot of indie devs use, since it has low requirements there's less pressure and it may be worth a look if you want a less stressful time developing something for fun. I'm not huge on p8 but I would definitely play a Klonoa on it.
I have developed a system I'm pretty happy with already. It also also allows me to ship games with extremely versatile modding tools.
The only downside really is that it isn't able to utilize the GPU properly with the plugin I'm using, but still it can blit approx 30k 16x16 tiles every frame while holding a steady 60fps so it's good enough for the projects I'm working on.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's cool, hope you're able to publish stuff at some point.
Play the original, buy the remake. The remake doesn't do everything perfectly and outright guts the artistic direction of the originals, but it's the only way to make it clear people want more Klonoa by buying it.
do you people seriously think that you're getting Klonoa 3
bamco doesn't give a shit
>2 began the downward trend
you're the genwunner equivalent of the Klonoa fanbase
11 months ago
Anonymous
He had his own look in 1 and very clearly changed to look like Sonic in 2 as well as having a similar pose. Sonic Adventure and its consequences have been a disaster for the Klonoa franchise.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Still, it would have been a mistake to keep him as a midget cat forever, changing the design was the right call.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Was it though? He looks perfect for 1 and PRS proves that it still looks good.
11 months ago
Anonymous
he looking grown up make sense, he is supposed to know a little better what is he doing, instead of being a toddler with no idea what is going on.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It makes a kind of sense, but it was also unnecessary. He's a fictional creature so you can just have him look the same or similar even if a story takes place later. There's no logical reason to almost completely change the art style.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Making the game in the first place was pretty unnecessary.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong, actually.
11 months ago
Anonymous
yes, you are wrong and change is good
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're right, the english dub and PRS's max gamma characters and missing animations were definitely good because chamge for the sake of change is automatically good.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oh ok, so we should have a repeat of DtP in every story and have it be revealed that Ghadius is behind everything again after all and Huepow ends up betraying Klonoa again in sequel after sequel since keeping it in line with the original is more important than anything else, so you could shit out sequels like they were Mega Man games?
11 months ago
Anonymous
You'll notice I've said nothing about 2's story and have only decried its blatantly Sonic-inspired art style shift.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You wanted to take what I said to an absurd extreme, so I decided to do the same.
11 months ago
Anonymous
All you said was that change is good which is such a loose argument in favor of an art style change that it wasn't worth taking seriously.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The change of design was appropriate for the sequel, and I don't give a shit if you didn't like it. You can argue if the redesign was shit or not, but personally I didn't mind it.
11 months ago
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[...]
11 months ago
Anonymous
It was perfect for that specific setting and game. Not necessarily for future instalments. I like the flexibility of having him at different points of life for different kinds of stories.
Play the original, buy the remake. The remake doesn't do everything perfectly and outright guts the artistic direction of the originals, but it's the only way to make it clear people want more Klonoa by buying it.
I think he should be friends with Parapa
I think they'd get a long, but why do you think they would, anon?
Short people stick together and they have a similar demeanor
You're right.
were the recent ports any good? I want to play 2, but I vaguely recall people posting how some things were changed for the worse
I do enjoy the ports, but nothing can top the first game's art style.
I believe the second game looks better in the remake.
I emulated it in pcsx2 a few months ago and I thought it looked pretty good there
Oh yeah the upscaling is great, especially with the widescreen mod.
I'm just comparing console to console, of course.
I loved how Klonoa 1 looked upscaled.
Emulators aren't upscaling 3D assets, they're rendering the game at a higher resolution. Upscaling is a different ballgame.
Like every other modern remake/game, it's very washed out and bright. I thought it was fine as someone who never played the original games but there are good comparisons on youtube and such.
>very washed out
The opposite, really. It's over saturated and colorful compared to the original.
the wiimake is bad and NOT the original
Back when the Wii game came out people said it looked too drab and desaturated lol.
it looked a little meh but everything was very competent from a technical perspective, at least as far graphics are concerned
>The opposite, really.
I think my definition of "washed out" might be wrong, because what I mean by that is that the colors look very WHITE or bleached to my eyes. It's very bright too, to an almost unreadable degree to me.
It plays and looks the exact same but there's far more bloom and less vibrant colors
Honestly I think emulating the PS2 version is better even if it's not the best game to emulate
So long as you check the psx2 wiki for fixes and use the nightly version you should be fine
worse cutscenes and missing animations and both Sea of Tears levels looking like dogshit isn't "looks the exact same"
>It plays and looks the exact same
not even
the animations are broken and none of the mechanics even work properly.
Both version suck
K2 is garbage
>t. homosexual with no taste
the remaster lets you select your windbullet range - extended or normal.
You mean easy and normal mode? Dumbass.
It's fine if you can't emulate or get a disc.
a youtuber i like randomly uploaded a klonoa video a year ago which inspired me to play the games
i'm glad i played them, i love klonoa now
>
>le I posted it again xDDD
I was shocked to learn some people find this song annoying
Literally my favorite moment from the game
He's doing his best how could you not enjoy it
I think bout raping klonoa too
same
He looks like a knock-off Sonic character.
Sonic is based on Felix which is a cat so it makes sense.
Is... Klonoa a cat?
Also, Classic Sonic was the one based on Felix, the adventure design is pretty far removed. Klonoa looks like an Adventure-era Tails OC.
that's just because all kemono look the same
Boys should not have prominent eyelashes unless they're gay and feminine
Klonoa is a cat/rabbit, a cabbit
No, he’s just a cat.
It's kinda sad when a good game (not slop like TR, OW or Infinite) is only remembered due to porn.
People who overanalyze children's media and try to project some deeper philosophical meaning onto it are pathetic man children. You can like something for what it is rather than what you want it to be and consume other media that actually tackles the themes you are looking for.
You really underestimate how seriously the author took the story in these games. The first game went through several rewrites and the author even rewrote the plot again as a "fanfiction" after the release of DtP.
Some people take their craft seriously, though you'd be right if this was a western game. Over here all games are merely seen as products to milk money customers. Westerners are completely incapable of creating meaningful stories in video games.
>The first game went through several rewrites and the author even rewrote the plot again as a "fanfiction" after the release of DtP.
Sauce
Bullshit, where?
We would have heard of it.
Not him, but maybe it's this story, here's a link to it thrown into google translate.
https://ncode-syosetu-com.translate.goog/n3757fc/1/?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
you are an insufferable joyless Black personhomosexual this is not the same as analyzing scenes from paw patrol
He's the type of person that would call me delusional for pointing out that there probably were people in the production team of LttP and OoT that were very familiar with The Hero with a Thousand Faces or had at the very least read it at some point in their lives.
>This piece of children's media about cute animals going on a adventurres is not comparable to another piece of children's media about cute animals going on adventures because... IT'S JUST NOT OKAY?!?!
Either you only played this as a kid, or you are moronic; I played Klonoa collection last year for the first time and these things were very obvious to me.
Also, why insist on robbing yourself of a fuller, richer experience by turning on just 2% of your brain when the art and message is right there for you? Are you really so desperate to prove how mature you are to anons that you insist on consuming content at such an unquestioning and vapid level?
There are a lot of moronic people who have no capacity for analysis or critical thinking. Even going on just surface level aesthetics you can figure out the 4 emotions thing and requires absolutely no subtext or deep analysis.
It's the same kind of people who can't comprehend metaphor at all and would read something like the The Grasshopper & The Ant and their takeaway would be that grasshoppers are buttholes.
>what if the hero was..........THE LE VILLAIN
Talk about character assassination.
Not what the image said, bait better next time
No it's actually more like he's coming to terms with a repressed part of himself to form a more complete whole. Which is possibly why the game plays the ending scene with KoS as if it was almost an religious experience or a spiritual one more generally speaking. Which is also why I would guess is why Popka makes the rather cryptic comment about Klonoa reminding him a little bit about Goddess Claire.
>cryptic
She saved the world, he saved the world. That's the connection.
But why ham it up as if something divine was happening?
Because it looks cool
how very American of you
>cool is le bad
You would hate anime
I've got 1 on Vita, pretty comfy
ME TOO
One Piece does shit that is both symbolic and cool at the same time constantly. You pretty much have to if you want to do good writing.
She was a dream traveler.
Damn this tight lil fella gets me GOING. Ya know what im sayin?!
no
Vroom vroom vroom my homie! Ride dat dreamboat!
That's like two levels in the sequel.
There's just something so funny imagining a black bro-type dude who is a fan of Klonoa.
Klonoa 2 is pure shit
you're pure shit
What made PS1 Klonoa interesting were the visuals and atmosphere
Klonoa 2 looks like generic shit
klonoa 2's visuals and atmosphere are just as good as ps1 klonoa
That's false tho
you haven't played it, go play it, munya :3
ah yes all the traditional generic and tired bing bing wahoo tropes:
1. rocky stormy coast
2. mountain level with beautiful eastern architecture
3. amusement park
4. war torn shithole
5. Escher style museum
6. ancient ship with weird architecture
7. literal abstract art piece for final platforming level
vs. the unique and original atmosphere in DtP:
1.green fields
2. dark cave
3. water level
4. forest level
6. sun temple
7. moon castle
>cherry picking
Cherry picked most of the levels there huh?
>t. filtered by the story
>I've been thinking about Klonoa, Ganker.
Matthew Perry?
>LE HECKING SNOWBOARD JUST LIKE SONIC ADVENTURE 2!!!
Klonoa 2 was soulless shit made for profit
Klonoa 2 came out before Sonic Adventure 2, wtf are you smoking?
Doesn't matter
Same vein
Klonoa 2's story is full of soul.
Sonic stories have been pure slop since Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
If by "soul" you mean recycling Door to Phantomile's story slapping an original cast and giving Persona-tier writing to the villain. He's le hecking Sorrow & shit!!!
Recycling what? There's a reason why they used such a weak and pathetic villain. If the intention was to slopmax the product they would have gone with the "bigger and better" route and reused shit like it was a Kirby sequel, which they actively avoided.
>Kirby
>reusing anything
Kek ok kid
>no one who has played the game is able to explain the plot without leaving plot threads dangling
Klonoa goes into a world as a dream and saves it, then leaves. It's the same shit as always.
>Kirby doesn't recycle
>all Klonoa games are le dreams so it's recycled content
frick man, put some work into your shitty bait
>persona tier
holy shit he's actually catching onto what the plot is about, you might get there in 10 years or so
don't you fricking dare diss my man
that's why they had an easy to understand plot where they used the 4 tired elements that everyone already knows and under.... except they didn't do that and no one who has played the game is able to explain the plot without leaving plot threads dangling
Seems like we have a Joka here, making a fool of himself
More charismatic than any K2 antagonists forced shit
How is it forced?
he's either a zoomie or baiting to bump his thread
Sonic Adventure:The First also had snowboarding, and actual snowboarding, not the road surfing in 2, and that was 1998 so
Yeah but it had invincible boarding that was only spectacle, Klonoa's actually had gameplay.
>Sega invented snowboarding
look at him go!
>I've been thinking
that's your problem right there, stop thinking
WAHOO
Sexual attraction
TONDE TONDE TONDE TONDE TONDE
HAYATE HAYATE HAYATE HAYATE
he should have been a secret unlockable character in Beach Volleyball
if Leorina and Tat could get into the roster, why not Sorrow?
Was confused on why Did the guys needed to shut down the reactorts, just for them comming back and it did nothing, did not stop the ring creation, and they had to go back and turn off the damn things again.
I think that they wanted to what was right, and stop the reactors from blowing up.
In a city where everything is blowing up.
And the reactors blew up anyways once the Bell was rung by Leorina's ring.
You have to keep in mind that certain aspects of the plot are meant to be more symbolic than anything else. Like how the Kingdom of sorrow is above water in the ending, even though it should have been below sea level with how deep down it was.
Games have inconsistencies like that all the time.
yes, but here it would make perfect sense if you accept the common dream symbolism of the sea being a metaphor for the unconscious
there were 2 decoy reactors. leorina knew they would try to stop her so she had tat lead them to the 2 decoys.
there was a 3rd reactor that was overloading everything and destroying the city after Lorina range the bell. lolo wanted to shut it down instead of leaving.
Klonoa would let them die
but the city is intact in the ending tho
because klonoa shut it down in the 3rd extra level.
did you play the game?
but the other anon said city was destroy after Leorina rang the bell
he's just wrong. that never happened.
I think he was trying to rationalize why there's Volk debris in the dark Sea of Tears level, though when I think about it, that took place before she rang the bell.
Klonoa 2 haters just don't get it
King of Sorrow is severely underrated.
he deserves more porn
I wish Shaolin Bones made more porn of him. His Klonoa stuff is kino.
I hate how he only draws big titted Pokemon now, with an occasional male Lucario/Cinderace. It doesn't feel right.
i've been obsessed with King of Sorrow ever since i saw him for the first time as a kid. still the strongest obsession i've ever had for a fictional character.
I kneel to your dedication anon.
What makes you obsessed with them?
i have no idea. back then i didn't understand english as it's not my first language, so i didn't even know what he was saying. i guess he just happened to be the perfect combination of color and form that appeals to my autistic taste
That's adorable, anon.
Keep on being you.
How much do mastrubate in a month on average to KoS
He's grown to be my favorite I think. Depends on the day, but he's definitely top 3.
Huepow is a bastard
King of Sorrow wouldn't exist if Huepow didn't betray Klonoa.
Didn't he exist thousands of years before Klonoa arrived? He's quite literally the element of sorrow. His design reflecting Klonoa's is more symbolic, I think
The game tells you frick all about the conflict prior to the game, it was Ghadius that was said to have been banished for thousands of years.
In a cut line in DtP's ending Huepow tells Klonoa that he will someday be Klonoa's Phantomile. Even though they cut the line it seems they went ahead with that idea in the sequel regardless.
IIRC there's a scene on Lunatea's Veil that someone says Klonoa looks a lot like the former queen of the kingdom, there's a statue of that queen there and the queen is identical to King of Sorrow, just wearing a queen outfit instead of being naked.
Did anyone else get a Klonoa Nendo?
Huepow stays in the box.
that's what you get for choosing burgers over steak
The snowboarding music was fricking great
I burst out laughing when I heard it for the first time
https://klonoa.fandom.com/wiki/Stepping_Wind#English%5B2%5D
>there's actual lyrics
Post lolo
Cute monkey
>Replayed klonao 2 recently
>Had a wet dream where popka fricks her with a dick almost the size of himself
I need to quit porn...
>her crush has to leave the world, his home planet needs him
>she has to settle with the dog instead
Bad end.
>Bad end
She enjoyed sucking on hiis veiny wiener
There's someone else he has feelings for, even if he did stay
TONDE TONDE TONDE TONDE TONDE TONDE TONDE TONDE TONDE
I fricking love this song. I wish there was a longer version
They did a throwback for the Phantasy Reverie trailer that uses that song, and is a little longer.
I know. What I wonder is how they did it again. The lyrics are different so was this version always in the vaults? How much was redone?
here you go, it's suspiciously similar to Lunatea's leitmotif
One of the Fan Discs has a longer 8 bit remix, if you don't mind bleeps and bloops and no lyrics.
I do since I like the original recording. But hey it's something and I didn't know about it so thanks anon.
Klonoa getting /ss/'d by Sybil.
One of these days I'll get around to checking out those handheld spinoffs, assuming any of them are worth a shit.
I wouldn't pair him with a deviantArt-tier western furry design.
Wish he drew more Klonoa in general since he's a styling inspiration for my own Klonoa shit.
>draw a bunch of cats
>say they're dogs
>assuming any of them are worth a shit.
They have better level design but worse graphics, story, and music, so they're literally the opposite of what most Klonoagays like about the franchise kek.
Just decent gameplay is fine by me, was already expecting worse visuals/sound given they're majority handheld titles.
The two main Klonoa games are so fricking short that by the time you clear them you want more platforming stuff to do.
Would you be a Klonoa fan if it was only the handheld games?
>The two main Klonoa games are so fricking short that by the time you clear them you want more platforming stuff to do.
Yep.
I started with Empire of Dreams and enjoyed it for being a more classic platformer, for some reason a lot of indie platformers had been rubbing me the wrong way for one reason or another, I would recommend them as underrated platformers if they're the only ones that existed, and I'd say the same about if the Wii version were the original. The PSX original version of DtP and Lunatea's Veil kind of blew me away with how much attention to small details those games put.
Klonoa looks so good when he's not at max gamma brightness.
>calling some 30+ year old NEET "adorable"
We are hitting levels of hidden discord admin erp channel that shouldn't even be possible.
Forgive the weird word choice then.
English isn't my first language.
shuush, they are flirting
Oh frick off troony. Older autistic dudes can be cute too. Sorry you're jealous no one wants to look at your deformed body and call you adorable, freak.
>you don't call guys cute
>therefore YOU are the troon
No more (You)s from me after this, kek. This is too funny.
Sorry troon, you've been called out. Ask your discord kitten to tell you how cute "she" is some more, you'll never be a woman.
Literally rent free
>Dude I'm totally a man grrr men are ugly and disgusting and we hate them right si-I mean bros
Yes thanks for proving my point
Why do you hate men so much, freak? Don't deflect. Why do you force your way into an interaction to shame decent people? You don't have to answer, I know it's because you're an ugly broken subhuman.
get help
>N-no u
troony deflection as usual. You'll never be anything but a hateful ugly. You should try to get some help instead of spewing vitriol.
Totally dude. You're definitely not a hate-filled troon. I'm just imagining you trying to shame good men for existing and feeling normal. Deflect, deflect, deflect.
I hope you can get the help you need for your schizophrenia anon
all me
>for some reason a lot of indie platformers had been rubbing me the wrong way for one reason or another
Probably because too many of them rely on floaty/flowy 'platforming', or lean too heavy into combat.
No there's a particular atmosphere to indie platformers that always feel off. There's something about them just feels insincere. That's the best word I can think for it.
Depends on if you're looking for more than good gameplay. None of them have anything that points to heavy themes like the console games. Dream Champ Tournament's story especially is just like a shitty Sonic fanfic. The train level looks cool tho.
Become the wind, Kl-o-no-a
You are the one, Kl-o-no-a
Riding the wind on a big adventure!
Calling to your dream, Klonoa of the Wind
Become the wind, Kl-o-no-a
You are the one, Kl-o-no-a
Two dreamy adventures to save the whole world!
Welcome back to your dream, Klonoa of the Wind
Klonoa of the Wind
>welcome back to your dream
So Lunatea is Klonoa's dream, after all...
He literally me.
Remember that Huepow's a fricking snake.
sleepy monke
heresy?
But there were already male and female generic La-Lakooshans in the credits.
I was dumb ant thought it was supposed to be a redesign, not a different one.
or it is really a redesign, it have the name after all.
I didn't understand Klonao 1 story, and confused about the ending. Was Klonao abducted to another world with false memories to defeat the evil? Was that not his real grandpa?. It sounds like twisted version of Kirby stories
as I understand yes, but also people say it was just all a dream, which make it kind of lame ending
>dream ending
>literally all in le head
Yeah i agree, that's a pretty lame
What do you mean by replicant? Do you mean like at one point there was two Klonaos? I'm still confused about the whole "dreams" aspect
Does Klonao 2 acknowledges what happened in Klonao 1?
>Does Klonao 2 acknowledges what happened in Klonao 1?
The entire final section of Klonoa 2 has references to what happened in Klonoa 1.
>What do you mean by replicant?
He is an empty vessel representing the player. Their Clone-oa. That's why he has to leave the dream world after the game is over, because you also leave by turning the game off after playing.
then he comes back and mess around town if he is a compeltionist
The dream stuff is kinda weird, because the 'dreams' he goes to are all clearly their own worlds with history and shit, and we don't know who the frick is dreaming them up.
And all we ever see of the "real world" is Klonoa's bed and house in the cancelled webcomic.
>And all we ever see of the "real world" is Klonoa's bed and house in the cancelled webcomic.
I have this theory that the reason why the side games and webcomic are different canon than the mainline console games is because the console games are the dream world, and the side games are his real world.
>Does Klonao 2 acknowledges what happened in Klonao 1?
Nope, you can play Klonoa games in any order except 2 comes before DCT.
>Nope, you can play Klonoa games in any order except 2 comes before DCT.
Even Beach Volleyball?
I always forget that shitty side game exists. How the frick do you release a game on the previous console generation like that lmao?
Explain the music OP posted if it doesn't acknowledge the first game at all?
Yes. Think Blade Runner. It was an inspiration for the story, after all.
Klonoa is a replicant of dreams, summoned there to do his assigned job of defeating nightmares. Huepow gaslit him and gave him fake memories and a fake grandpa to keep alive the illusion of Phantomile being his home to ensure he did his job.
He's a dream traveler. Sometimes it's his own dreams that let him travel to other worlds, sometimes the dream is like an alternate reality he gets called to.
TL;DR he could take Freddy Kruger in a fight
The weirdest thing about him traveling to dreams is that you still see the same enemies that you encounter in another dreams
It feels like all those dreams share one big world
>He is an empty vessel representing the player. Their Clone-oa.
So you are saying that the Klonao we play as is a clone? What happened to the real Klonao?
>What happened to the real Klonao?
Maybe that's The King of Sorrow?
I remember an anon theorising Klonoa 2 is specifically in Klonoa's mind, and it's him trying to handle the grief he felt from the first game. Someone screenshotted it but I don't know if anyone has it on had to post it.
there's this
The replicants in Blade Runner weren't "replicas" of people, they were replicas of humanity itself. It's the same here. You, the player, is the original one.
>You, the player, is the original one.
Maybe that's why extra lives are coins. You exchange a token for another replica/clone.
ITS KLONOA. NOT KLONAO.
Clone-oa
>creator wanted to call the series Clonoa
>Namco marketing said Clonoa looked too much like chlamydia and told him to change it
>Namco marketed it as chlamydia anyways
i like the text on the bottom
"blow up or shut up"
the marketing was so stupid...
Klon? Oh. A.
I thought it was neat that since they have their own dialect(s) stuff gets pronounced differently like how Klonoa sounds like Kloa and Ghadius sounds like Ghadi.
His first draft in character design is a broken down ancient robot.
They had to re do that concept because it gave away too much of the story.
He's a robot.
A construct to be disposed of when his use is over.
>he's just a robot with a determined fate
KLONOMACHINES!?
I think he looks pretty cool
You didn't need to post that.
frick you
>you didn't need to post that
Haha, look at it inflate!
>Klonoa is a condom metaphor
>The awful add is part of the lore
>gave away too much of the story
Or just wasn't cute and marketable enough, Klonoa is the perfect reddit game and they knew that which is why everything is le cute but also has LE HECKIN DEEP LORE even though none of it makes sense and it's all moronic.
Joka anon is right and K2 is shit
>t. got filtered by a children's story
Baggy shorts to hide his massive shotawiener!
So very true!
>talk to klonoagay
>they tell you how much they love the games and everything they love about them
>never end up mentioning the gameplay
Every time lmao
at least they didn't post kemoshota
I for one did not hate the english voice acting, aside from Klonoa's WAHOO which is too bad because he says it a lot. The volleyball voices sounded more fitting.
There are different voice actors per Version?
Dont they talk fricking gibberish? This makes no sense
They used dubbed voices for the Wiimake (English/Japanese/Spanish/French/Italian/German), and the same languages for Beach Volleyball
There was a Phantomilian dub in the Wiimake, but you had to select it in options.
But why? Why would hire 5 times as many people to voice act when no one is talking any real words?
This makes no sense
>But why?
Bamco forced dubs over subs in the 2000s, just ask Tales fans.
This still makes no sense. They just burned money for no reason
Why do both the wiimake and PRS play a shorter version of the Tower of Balue cutscene at the end? I always thought that was weird.
i think it plays an extra bit of the scene if you get 150 gems in all stages
Ah that sucks, no way I'm doing that.
It's very obvious to me that Klonoa is the top and Sorrow is the bottom.
I dunno, the evidence seems to suggest the other way around...
https://e621.net/posts/1443499
It doesn't make sense for that to be the case. The both of them just happen to have minimal porn and it's all bad. except the Klonoa stuff where he has a huge wiener
why didn't they just make an open world klonoa game where he gets petted by old men and snuggles in their warm lap and starts purring and they rub his warm fluffy belly.
I HAVE KLONOA ON PS3
KLONOA AND ANUBIS (smol edition)
gonna vomit wtf is that shit
A tranimal crossing character
gonna cum wtf is that cutie
A pacman character
Super cute
But she doesn’t fit in the Pac-Man universe at all
She's the Krystal of Pacman games
>pacman
I know that there's no dishonesty in your post, but seriously that's like comparing fruit to meat which no one would think of nor do as a comparison.
nothing does, pac-man is so non-descript in his original arcade incarnations any attempt at fleshing out his universe falls flat and feels out of place
The World trilogy was the only real one to successfully do it.
Bamco is sleeping
Drawgays?
Currently drawing Klonoa porn. It will be bad.
draw King of Sorrow please
It's based on 1 and won't be done anytime soon, however I may draw Sorrow and Leorina sometime in the future.
One day. Atm I'm working on a couple characters cosplaying as Klonoa & Sorrow to have ready for the Halloween season.
catbox
Being lazy about finishing a femKlo piece from a couple weeks back.
>femKlo
i know klonoa threads are generally gay, but you have my interest
I don't want a 3day van for underboob, but suffice to say, it's rare to see him genderbent. I just wanted to address that.
fug i am late
You guys think we'll see a Klonoa GBA collection of sorts?
At best, Bamco might slip the GBA entries into the Nintendo Switch Online service. Those titles are never getting touched again.
No.
I'm not sure but it doesn't look like you understand his post, she is quite literally a Pacman character.
I do and you're very much right, that is a pac man character but it just doesn't make sense to me, something like a anthropomorphic fruit would make more sense to me as a pacman character.
True kek but I've got no complaints with her. I kind of wish they did more with her actually, saying she's in "literally who" territory would be an understatement.
Guntz never ever again, Anon.
Klonoa 3 never fricking ever. I've given up all hope.
He'd be in his thirties now.
No point in making him dream janny again.
Dude's tired.
Klonoa doesn't age, he just adapts to the boylover's tastes
He would NEVER.
post kemoshota
post kemoshota
never ever
Klonoa is gay, Lolo may be disgustingly flat but that still isn't enough.
>disgustingly flat
Klonoa's dream worlds is all DFC paradise, there is no breast tissue in sight anywhere.
The only one who MIGHT have anything is Leorina, but it's all covered up in her pirate coat.
she had a cutscene without the pirate attire you know
>draw Klonoa porn
>upload it with only the tags "sonic_the_hedgehog_(series)" and "original_character"
I SMELL YOU, ONYO.
I KNOW YOU'RE HERE.
Is it really so bad to call guys adorable?
Naw, just some troony sperg getting jealous that old autistic NEETs still get more positive attention than them.
was klonoa ever in a skateboarding game by namco?
no, but he moped
look at him go
>they/he
As if Klonoa ever commented on this gender bullshit.
everyone that wants to have a social life uses and accepts pronouns
I use and accept pronouns, I'll call anyone whatever they ask of me but if you have he or she as an option 99.9% of people will use it and needing to specify he/they is moronic since everyone calls everyone they at some point depending on the sentence and no one is going to strive for they unless they want to kiss your ass. Essentially in my experience signaling pronouns is moronic unless you're in danger of being misgendered somehow (A non-issue for most people, including trans people) and it would really bother you to ask for a small correction.
All that being said, the comment was about Klonoa, Klonoa is cis he/him. He wouldn't need pronouns in a display name.
>t. bigot
Explain how what I said was bigoted. Break it down for me. I love to learn and grow as a person.
every gender is valid
I agree, you should be yourself and people should use your pronouns good. What does that have to do with the practicality of pronoun displays or a need to specify they in addition to he or she? My points were:
>If you accept he or she, everyone will use that. Specifying he/they or she/they to me is pointless since you're functionally not changing anything compared to a he/him or she/her. Everyone in the English speaking world accepts they/them pronouns for themselves.
>The amount of people who are in danger of being misgendered even among trans people is miniscule. Most people signal gender enough for strangers to get it right just by looking. By my observation the only people who need to do it are those who exclusively accept they/them.
>Klonoa is cis he/him.
Only when a cis guy plays as him
If that was true why is Klonoa specifically a male in the novelization?
patriarchy
You got me to chuckle anon I'll give you that.
The games exclusively refer to him as male.
La-Lakooshan girls!
The only mystery left for me to figure out is what they meant with all this pisswater...
sometimes when you're having a nightmare, you piss yourself?
not canon...how would it be a good morning if you just pissed yourself?
It's warm.
>"mooom, I just had a divine vision again!"
Isn't that sand?
Do you play it the right way?
I did for shits and giggles
did it enhance the experience
I always eye his bare chest and shorts
So, when is Bamco porting the movile games as a collection?
they are not going to make a Klonoa 3 so this is the next best thing.
>Klonoa mobile
>klonoamobile
C R I M E S
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I half expected the GBA games to be DLC as part of PRS, but I guess the developers already abandoned support for PRS to work on porting We <3 Katamari.
If I remember correctly, a Splatterhouse remake is also in the works, so it'll probably be a while before any of the handheld Klonoa games get remade.
Both of you shut the frick up and talk about Klonoa.
sorroween
Haha, it's Klonoa on the NES!
People who don't see the obvious cinematography in the klonoa games completely forget that the guy who made Klonoa literally invented cutscenes in video games.
the wiimake/PRS fricked up the cinematography. Always recommend PS1 DTP.
Who made the remake, was it the same studio?
Radia Senki also had characters named Balue and Leorina
Is there place for sorrow in your world anon?
My whole world is sorrow, anon
There's not room for much other than sorrow
I reject everything that George Sorrows does because I'm a proud conspiracy theorist.
Hell yeah.
22 years later and he's still stuck in this fricking void
It's fricked to think about.
I love that schizophrenic comment I once read on some youtube video of an extension of the ruins of sadness music
Something about Klonoa achieving "The Death' after he wins.
Little bit sad, m8,
That is a very Greek interpretation of the story. At least in my schizo headcanon he got over what was bothering him since DtP over the duration of the story and was made ready for more challenging tasks. Essentially it made the bittersweet ending actually a happy one.
I love how stoic he is throughout the entire second game.
Like the first game fricked him up but he's still confident in his abilities.
And how in the end, instead of fighting the void, he just walks through it and peace's out.
Real shit.
"the void" would seem less morbid if they released more games to fill the gap between DtP and LV.
Yeah he got over grandpa's death like as soon as he beat balladium kek, right after that it's back to fun adventure vibes
I mean, is not crying, but wouldnt say "fun adventure vibes" but it gets "serious bussiness"
Dude why are his teeth so goddamn sharp.
I love how expressive he is in the FMV's
It's fun adventure vibes all through the sun kingdom. In fact Joka is more upset at Klonoa than Klonoa is at him, and for the rest of the time Klonoa is just reacting to events as they happen. That death scene is so glossed over I sometimes wonder if it was just there for pointless shock value or if through all the rewrites its significance was dropped along the way. You could have Joka just sneak in and steal the pendant and change literally nothing else and the story would still play out the same.
or maybe Klonoa is a little kid that lives in the moment more than anything?
No, it's just that they decided to limit themselves to really short cutscenes that show the bare minimum to progress the story.
Any kind of follow up for a major story event like that would have been nice. I would have settled for him having at least one line about it when confronting Joka and as a bonus, maybe a single mention at the end when he and Huepow were sitting together. As it is, like I said the scene of him getting killed is completely pointless.
well, huepow told him "little fricker, stop crying and go for that shit, or we will be doom"
maybe not with thouse words or that tone, but that is why you get over it, or you wanted to have Klonoa saying at the end of each chapter "You know, Im still really sad that my grampa is dead"
Maybe he just needed another push before he broke for real?
At least he isn't awake in there
This is the closes thing to klonoa that will be in a looooon time.... but hey, at least the hair looks like ears if you close your eyes
I heard that game fricking sucks.
is it any good?
I just played the demo, I like the look of it... but had a weird time adapting to the controls. but
>female protagonist
nah
>he is unaware
enlighten me
Why aren't there any Klonoa fangames? You'd think people desperate for more Klonoa would have made something by now.
I was making a fangame ages ago but eventually dropped it because I thought my story was garbage.
Fricked up, I'm sorry to hear that anon. I hope you can pick it back up one day with mroe confidence.
I just wanted to capture some of the magic from the mainline games, the engine itself was playable enough but I never got around to implementing some of the more advanced features. It was even featured on the channel of that one fan that posts a lot of videos of the official games and is in a playable state.
I'm making a Zelda like game currently but the engine I'm working on now is flexible as hell, and will probably be used to power a Klonoa fan game at some point.
I was the anon that were posting all the "Lunatea represents Klonoa's mind" related stuff and they're mostly based on the theories of the psyche by Carl Jung, who was a Swiss psychologist that focused a lot of his work on patterns in dreams and derangements of schizophrenic patients, and is partly the reason I have some renewed interest in the franchise because of that, because it gave me an idea of how I could write interesting stories for a potential fangame.
Nta but if you haven't heard of it, there's a virtual console called pico-8 that has a low bar for entry that a lot of indie devs use, since it has low requirements there's less pressure and it may be worth a look if you want a less stressful time developing something for fun. I'm not huge on p8 but I would definitely play a Klonoa on it.
I have developed a system I'm pretty happy with already. It also also allows me to ship games with extremely versatile modding tools.
The only downside really is that it isn't able to utilize the GPU properly with the plugin I'm using, but still it can blit approx 30k 16x16 tiles every frame while holding a steady 60fps so it's good enough for the projects I'm working on.
That's cool, hope you're able to publish stuff at some point.
the story was garbage because you just bring up all the old characters? was to edgy try hard? was a fetish game?
saw this on xitter
>last update january
it's dead jim
Holy kino, too bad it will never be real. I'd even settle for this look with no additional textures or background or whatever
fwiw just found out dude made a repo, so it's out there at least
https://github.com/PedroGameDesigner/KlonoaFangame
Aw sheit, Next-Gen Wonderswan
You know nobody ever credits how fricking raw the gibberish scream is when his grandpa dies, shit's intense for a scrimblo, fricker peaks the mic
So...original or remake?
Remake since it has everything the original had and you get to support the series if you pay for it.
>Remake since it has everything the original had and you get to support the series if you pay for it.
Yes....about that.
do you people seriously think that you're getting Klonoa 3
bamco doesn't give a shit
Original then new remake, then Never played the wii remake but never liked how it look or how It tried to become sonic or something.
>tried to become sonic
That was 2.
2 had SOVL
Sonic hasn't had true SOVL since Saturn era.
But the Wiimake added the deeper voice acting and speaking english
2 began the downward trend, wii was just the natural next step. I actually thought it was Drummond before I looked it up though, he sounds so similar.
>2 began the downward trend
you're the genwunner equivalent of the Klonoa fanbase
He had his own look in 1 and very clearly changed to look like Sonic in 2 as well as having a similar pose. Sonic Adventure and its consequences have been a disaster for the Klonoa franchise.
Still, it would have been a mistake to keep him as a midget cat forever, changing the design was the right call.
Was it though? He looks perfect for 1 and PRS proves that it still looks good.
he looking grown up make sense, he is supposed to know a little better what is he doing, instead of being a toddler with no idea what is going on.
It makes a kind of sense, but it was also unnecessary. He's a fictional creature so you can just have him look the same or similar even if a story takes place later. There's no logical reason to almost completely change the art style.
Making the game in the first place was pretty unnecessary.
Wrong, actually.
yes, you are wrong and change is good
You're right, the english dub and PRS's max gamma characters and missing animations were definitely good because chamge for the sake of change is automatically good.
Oh ok, so we should have a repeat of DtP in every story and have it be revealed that Ghadius is behind everything again after all and Huepow ends up betraying Klonoa again in sequel after sequel since keeping it in line with the original is more important than anything else, so you could shit out sequels like they were Mega Man games?
You'll notice I've said nothing about 2's story and have only decried its blatantly Sonic-inspired art style shift.
You wanted to take what I said to an absurd extreme, so I decided to do the same.
All you said was that change is good which is such a loose argument in favor of an art style change that it wasn't worth taking seriously.
The change of design was appropriate for the sequel, and I don't give a shit if you didn't like it. You can argue if the redesign was shit or not, but personally I didn't mind it.
It was perfect for that specific setting and game. Not necessarily for future instalments. I like the flexibility of having him at different points of life for different kinds of stories.
Play the original, buy the remake. The remake doesn't do everything perfectly and outright guts the artistic direction of the originals, but it's the only way to make it clear people want more Klonoa by buying it.
Emulate 1 then buy the remake for 2 if you can't emulate that.
Why are his outfits always so bad
>Why are his outfits always so bad
why do you hate his fashion sense?
in terms of visuals:
original K2 >> Wii K1 remake >> Switch K1+K2 remake >> original K1
Lolo...sex...sex with Lolo
Klonoa is leaving forever, so...we must make memories! Sex memories! Must forcefully have sex to have good memories!
Stop typing ,Popka.
Nightmare is the better Wahoo anyway.
I still don't get why they went with such a downer ending for the first game.
Because Klonoa was le you the whole time
because tragedy is much mroe poignant when the sufferer is someone cute
What if instead of the wind bullet, klonoa had the food bullet and made people really fat like as a joke? Ha ha...
What if Klonoa took off his shoes and show everyone his paws. Ha ha... as a joke.
What if Huepow was just enforcing local immigration policies?
Because Huepow is a stupid fricking blue piece of shit that doesnt understand life.
So... blue lives don't matter?
Only in Phantomile.
what do his paws smell like haha
What he break wind and nobody hear? Wouldn't that be kind of sad?
What if Klonoa did my taxes for me? Like as a joke? He he...
I'm so glad regular furry is on the way out and people have realized that Kemono is the future.
Kemono is just regular furry: japan
>mods nuke any kemo- threads on trash
literally 1984
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7553786
Good Night, anons.
heheh
he has a cold
I thought kao the kangaroo imitating the toys for bob art style was very cute
Klonoa 2 status: bad sequel
burg
Don't die yet
does anyone even play that game anymore?
he deserves a happy ending to be with his friends in 3... 1 and 2 are too sad bros.... it breaks my heart..
k
very cute
Klonoa and Link swapping hats!
KoS looking mother fricker.
klonoa paws