1. KH4 hasnt had any new updates since the first trailer
2. I think a lot of people were expecting the next game Nomura works on to be Verum Rex, so finding out its KH4 instead and that Nomura stated in an interview he made the decision to make KH4 over Verum Rex disheartened a lot of people who were much more excited at the prospects of a Versus XIII/Yozora game
3. The KH community is extremely active on youtube and discord as you can see from pic rel but Ganker doesn't talk about games unless they're FOTM shill threads or gacha so unsurprisingly you see no discussion about it here.
But in terms of story, KH1 is the only good one. You'd have to have severe autism to think that the lore that has formed after that is any sort of good.
kh1 story sucks ass and doesnt even start properly till youre in hollow bastion which together with traverse town are the only places worth a damn
kh2 story is superior in every way
the roxas section alone mogs the entirety of generic shounen anime kh1
I want Verum Rex and Versus 15. There is that one theory where Verum Rex is going to be an allegory for Nomura being torn apart from the Tokyo Team assistants and Verum Rex's sales will gauge interest for Versus 15. Maybe Magia and Aegis are his battle planners who work with him on 7R.
>Then its a good thing Osaka team doesn't even exist anymore and the game is being developed by Creative Business Unit 1.
Isn't the Osaka team part of CBU1?
Many Tokyo Team devs are also being re-sorted under Osaka, like Tatsuya Kando and Yuji Abe
>battle planners >Tokyo Team devs
Aren't most of them still at the company? Nomura needs to get them together. I've said it before but I don't care if Final Fantasy game quality goes down so that I can have the Tokyo Team all in one place to make battle system kino again.
>people who were much more excited at the prospects of a Versus XIII/Yozora game
no one wanted fricking verum rex, if anything people were upset he poisoned kh with that shit
Because the mobile games get to focus more on the OC stuff, as we've already done all the Disney worlds in them as plots already. It's the same reason CoM has one of the better storylines in the franchise, because the Disney stuff is a backdrop do to being another retelling, while the main plot is solely forwarded in the OC sections.
>Ganker stuck replying to racebait, ragebait and gacha trash in an endless offtopic cycle >KH youtube discussing what they love and enjoying videogames
ill do it if they include bonuses like the ps4 theme and keyblade in kh3
ive been a fan for more than 20 years now i will never stop untill the series is dead
i platinumed bbs and CoM twice both on ps3 and ps4
kh is the sole reason i live
i mean way back when before bbs even came out in NA
kh2 was hated for being too easy, too many cutscenes, stupid story
pressing x/triangle to win
i still remember all of these and cringe youtubers (who were usually hardcore FF fans) hating the shit out of it
since final mix kh2 is now looked at as the peak of the series which i agree with
>What went wrong.
0 information since the announcement trailer.
KH as a franchise clearly being undermined while Square pushes the 7Remake trilogy that already has proven to cause issues for previous KH projects like UX and KH3.
Missing Link going Missing Link for over a year.
The last two released entries in the series was a Rhythm Game and a Xehanort prequel story that also got cut short do to budgetary reasons and FF7R Trilogy reasons.
Let's not forget to mention the people with zero faith in the series after they removed everything to do with Final Fantasy from the last mainline game. Still don't understand why they thought you could even have a KH game without FF characters.
Biggest issue is how fricking moronic and convoluted the plot got.
Doesn't help that it was spread across multiple systems (console & handheld,) either.
Everything was fine until DDD. Like 1,com,2 are fine.
Bbs set the next villain/story up
352 was just about roxas
Coded was whatever.
So then 3d happened, with le timetravel, le everyone is xehanhort, le dream. And 3‘s biggest issue was not be able to let older cast go. You know have like 5-6 trios >aqua, ven, terra >roxas, xion, axel >axel, isa, stralezia >sora, donald, goofy >sora, kairi, riku
Like why? Roxas should never been brought back, same with xion. Bbs trio is fine, but better if they died or some shit.
yes thats the biggest appeal of the kh franchise
now frick off and die you hd collection secondary
you will never be a real kh fan like us
7 months ago
Anonymous
I bet you didn't even play 1 and 2 on the PS2 you fricking disgusting 3DS zoomer.
7 months ago
Anonymous
says the hd secondary who doesnt even know what a PS2 looks like outside of some e-celeb videos? you already lost the second you decided to argue with a true fan
gameplay doesnt matter in kh
also for a 3ds title it has phenomenal gameplay regardless
of course a hd collection secondary wouldnt understand
you prolly heard of kh for the first time from dunkey or something
just kys
>VII:R is so shit it doesn't just ruin VII, it brings the entire company down with it
Thanks, Toriyama.
At least XV was a self-contained flop, it didn't bleed into KH.
>VII:R is so shit it doesn't just ruin VII, it brings the entire company down with it
Thanks, Toriyama.
At least XV was a self-contained flop, it didn't bleed into KH.
Nah it's Toriyama who should've gone the way Tabata did when XIII almost made Square go bankrupt.
The fact that Tabata is out for a game that at the end of the day sold ok, while Toriyama is still in after a whole fricking trilogy and a spin off that nobody gave a frick about, is unbelievable to me.
That they then would allow him to turn the VII remake into FFXIII with all the same design choices and even a lite version of the crystarium and its storygating of progression, is incomprehensible.
In my mind there's no way Toriyama doesn't have a video of Square's board eating children.
He must be friends with Larry Fink or some shit.
It just doesn't check out that Tabata is gone and Toriyama is still in failure after failure.
And I don't even like Tabata.
Something's not right at Square.
> 13 and 13-3 were good
very easy way to discard someone's opinion, then again a bunch of kids had this trash pile as their first FF game, so ofc given enough time this would happen.
serves to show you dont need to make a good product, you just have to lower the standards of the next gen of gamers
>What went so wrong?
We played KH3 after waiting for KH3. Nomura is more interested in telling his shitty mobile game story than the one we want. There's no more FF. The Disney worlds suck. No one cares about Yozora. Osaka style combat fricking sucks.
>shitty mobile game story than the one we want
What story do you "want"? Sora's story is done. All of the main characters story arcs are complete. Let Nomura create a new story for fricks sake
That ship sailed long ago, anon. Sora completed his arc in II, and Roxas' story got fleshed out in Days, but japs have an autistic inability to end a fricking story, which is why the story devolved into a completely incomprehensible shitshow with ever increasing powercreep and asspulls, just like post namek DBZ. Osaka can't even do gameplay, so the fans can't even cope about the game being fun to play.
Are you a bot? You aren't even replying to my post. I'm not disagreeing tjat Sora's story should be over. >Osaka can't even do gameplay
Then its a good thing Osaka team doesn't even exist anymore and the game is being developed by Creative Business Unit 1. And they directly responded to the critiques of Osaka combat with the gameplay tweaks and abilities in 3 ReMind.
>Sora's story is done.
Then end his story, you demented frogposting moron.
[...] >Yozora was hype as shit. >They fixed the combat and listened to feedback in ReMind
I beat the game again on critical and did all the data fights and Yozora as soon as it came out. It's still shit. You're a Nomura wienersucker, which means you're an underage third worlder and nothing you say matters.
How about you make coherent logical sense for once Barry, first you're complaining Nomura is focusing on a story other than Sora, next you're complaining he's focusing on Sora? Delusional True Tabatacel behaviour right there brother. >I completed the entire DLC on critical mode and had to have observed the changes in abilities and animation cancels yet Osaka combat sucks
100% obsessed bazza cope
>Then its a good thing Osaka team doesn't even exist anymore and the game is being developed by Creative Business Unit 1.
Isn't the Osaka team part of CBU1?
>Are you a bot? You aren't even replying to my post. I'm not disagreeing tjat Sora's story should be over.
Yes, and i wasn't disagreeing with you either. I simply expressed my belief that KH is never going to move past "Sora, Donald and Goofy go on adventures to save the world ad infinatum with ever increasing powercreep and bullshit", just like Dragon ball is never going to go past "Goku beats up bad guys and saves the universe ad infinatum with ever increasing powercreep and bullshit", because japs are too autistic to end a story. Sora already got flanderized into a complete fricking moron, and it's all going to be downhill from here.
>japs are too autistic to end a story
How tf can you look at Western pop media and say something like this as if it were unique to them? You aren't even wrong but literally every country's media is doing this shit to some degree. I'm not an economist but I'm guessing it's because the market incentives are fricked. Not enough willingness to take risks on the big budget media pieces, just safe bets milked forever.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Normally they give good safe endings then put the marvel aftercredits shit sequel bait nomura straight deletes sora from existence for the next game
moron the CBUs still have divisions within themselves and the KH team is 95% in Osaka, only a handful of people are in tokyo like nomura and ferrari, not the people actually making the model assets or systems or programming or textures or animations etc
>Sora's story is done.
Then end his story, you demented frogposting moron.
>No one cares about Yozora
Yozora was hype as shit. No one cares about playing Sora (most boring as character after KH2) and running through pixar movie slop for the quintillionth time. >Osaka combat sucks
They fixed the combat and listened to feedback in ReMind. Fake ass fan alert >Yozora sucks even doe I didn't even play the DLC he's in
>Yozora was hype as shit. >They fixed the combat and listened to feedback in ReMind
I beat the game again on critical and did all the data fights and Yozora as soon as it came out. It's still shit. You're a Nomura wienersucker, which means you're an underage third worlder and nothing you say matters.
you didn't do any of that, Re:Mind makes KH3 barely any different from KH2 in gameplay
the only actual difference in Re:Mind Critical mode is that you have drive forms on the keyblades and can store them for later, instead of just selecting your drive form from the menu.
If you don't like Re:Mind KH3 you don't like KH2 either.
Me, a connoisseur, I like all the KH games.
I like how KH1 feels more like an RPG.
I like how smooth and impactful KH2 and KH3 are.
I like the command system combos of BBS and CoM.
I kinda like the pokemon in DDD, I think it's the weakest entry but it's still really fun.
I'm not even a smash player but you can tell from a glance that Melee and Ultimate and beyond are extremely different. The pacing is not even comparable.
KH2 and KH3 are by and large the same game, in terms of gameplay
KH3 is just KH2 with a bunch of added fat, Re:Mind takes that off and it's just back to being KH2, which is good.
>you didn't do any of that
Wrong. >Re:Mind makes KH3 barely any different from KH2 in gameplay
Wrong again. And I just replayed 2FM so your gaslighting attempt won't work. KH2FM bosses start to dripfeed in the shitty gimmick mechanics and long invulnerability phases on some bosses, but it's still worlds away from 3's combat. >Me, a connoisseur, I like all the KH games.
Blindly liking every part of a franchise doesn't make you a fan, it makes you a wienersucking moron with no standards.
>Sora's story is done.
What are you talking about? He's in Not-Japan dude, Nomura is still not finishing up his story. No one is gonna accept that he just "disappears" infront of Kairi, not even Nomura would allow that to happen.
Its less that he despises Sora and more that he is incapable of relating to Sora.
He likes him the same way he likes all of his creations, its why he has stuck around so long, its just that Sora is more of the foil to the types of characters he actually cares about.
That being the Riku's, Xehanort's and likely Yozora types which need a Sora to serve as counterpoint and protagonist, and in filling that role why not use the character you already know, everyone else likes, and your fine with.
>No one cares about Yozora
Yozora was hype as shit. No one cares about playing Sora (most boring as character after KH2) and running through pixar movie slop for the quintillionth time. >Osaka combat sucks
They fixed the combat and listened to feedback in ReMind. Fake ass fan alert >Yozora sucks even doe I didn't even play the DLC he's in
being so assmad about losing versus 13 that he tried to hijack KH is never not funny to me. imagine getting kicked off duke nukem forever so you go and insert some muscled blond queer into another game and try and make an even shittier version of it, then imagine the pushback by actual fans being so bad you back down and go back right afterwards
>Yozora was hype as shit. No one cares about playing Sora (most boring as character after KH2)
Yozora is like a parody of bad JRPG protagonists. The only possible redeeming feature of him would be if he really is MoM.
Mouthbreathing sora/disneygay. You got your wish, another slopfest with Sora as MC. We could have had Versus XIII kino but instead we get more PG age rating and interactive pixar movie ads.
people were already waiting over a decade for 3 after endless fricking spinoffs and when 3 finally hit it was kind of bad and didn't really resolve the plot in a way people found satsifying. 4 is already outright stated to be damage control for 3 too because nomura said he wanted to make his new fuccboi OC the main character but people hated sora fricking dying so much he had to immediately walk it back. hopes are really fricking low honestly, it sounds like its going to be filler to give sora a half-assed feel good ending so he can move on to yozora like he actually wants to
Should have ended with 3 given how much they built up. Instead they just couldn't help themselves and had to greenlit a sequel with the ending and epilogue to tease yet another game.
They finished the stories of all of the characters we cared about, and Kingdom Hearts' lore isn't compelling for someone old enough to have played the games when they were still coming out.
Warning: New KH-anons or anons who wish to play KH. Spoilers abound in all threads about the game. I recommend avoiding said threads unless you do not care.
>what went so wrong?
KH3 being nothing more than a seedbed for all future lore going forward is what happened. KH3 was the ultimate middle finger to any long term fan, all it did was quickly wrap up a few old plot points so we could quickly get out of this "saga" so that we can move on to the next. Also, with how horrible all the worlds were in 3 there's little hope any of the worlds going forward will be any good, they'll mostly fall into the same trap that frozen did in that they can't do anything interesting with it. It's also too anime now, it started in 2 but it was bearable but for some reason when DDD dropped it just nose dived, I don't recall any of the characters doing that homosexual anime gasp even half as much in 1, 2, and even BBS like they do in DDD and 3. It's just all too gay now, even for me.
>KH3 was the ultimate middle finger to any long term fan, all it did was quickly wrap up a few old plot points so we could quickly get out of this "saga" so that we can move on to the next
This made me drop the series.
Never forget KH3's legacy
A rushed, unfinished, mess that Nomura struggled writing. >I had quite a tough time writing the story this time around. [...] I rewrote the ending multiple times, and took a lot of time deciding how I want it to play out on the screen. After much thought, I ended up keeping it simple. I believe that KINGDOM HEARTS III is truly completed when the two thoughts - whatever you feel from playing the game, and my thoughts that I’ve secretly placed in the game - match up together. I hope that everyone playing the game will complete the game for us.
Floaty garbage that'll be corrected in KH4. >The challenge is with the action gameplay. It’s hard to execute the satisfying action moves when the footing isn't very secure. That's something we're working on and hoping we can realize as an aspect of gameplay in Kingdom Hearts IV.
Failed new characters. >When Yozora was first introduced in KHIII, I got the impression that his reception was less than welcoming
Entire staff got fired. >We had some organizational changes after finishing KH3, and I'm very sorry this took so much longer than expected.
for me it isnt the combat but the amount of enemies
it isnt fun being randomly one shotted from the back each time
you pretty much have to rely on magic before getting into any fight and you can still have bad luck and be hit by some moronic attack
critical mode felt better in kh2 and more balanced
howevever extra content added after release is godly in kh3 and square this time bothered to release it outside of japan
i fricking hate how Ganker never brings this up
kh2 vanilla was great still but had almost no content outside the main story
so basicly
main game
kh2 > kh3
additional content
kh3 > kh2
also it was incredibly fricking gay how the kh3 intro was just put onto fricking 2.8
square for the love of god even as an extreme kh fan for more than 20 years now i genuinly wouldnt mind if the company goes under for the crimes they have done against both the nier and kh series with their incredibly disgusting gacha shit games
square enix literally defecating on my childhood >please play this kingdom hearts themed slot machine! it even has exclusive story!!!
all square enix CEOs should croak and die in the worst possible way
What went so right, you mean. KH is one of the few series that has actually aged like milk, espically all the disney worlds. Instead of getting rid of all the final fantasy stuff they should have doubled down on that and left out more mouseshit
>make fully 3d side game where you get to create your character >mobile only
Why do they keep doing this, they even added controller support for Missing Link
The truth of the matter is KH4's in dev hell until the remake trilogy is finished.
Even in 3's lifetime we were getting actual substantial leaks like the Monsters Inc build being leaked and Disney just straight up announcing Big Hero 6 world.
A series of game too spaced in time that kills any momentum, a decade waiting for an average game like kh3 that lacked in every single aspect fans were asking for, a nonsense happy ending for a trilogy after 20 years of speculation.
They killed kingdom hearts as a brand, no one even cares at this point. They weren't even intelligent enough to capitalize on edgy emo era, they were just lucky.
i remember looking at the kh2 PS2 boxart and thinking "god he looks fricking cool"
my cousin even said he wants to be him when we both played it at my place
he usually only prefered cool characters in anime like sasuke or vegeta
also he was one of the first boys to ever experiment with me shit was hot
technicly hes my half cousin but still yeah youre right
i had tons of gay/straight experimentation as a kid either with cousins or classmates or just friends
isnt that typical for most young kids? playing doctor and stuff like that
dont care still had sex
also girls was involved too
sometimes even a threesome with both a friend and his gf
i still fap to these memories
7 months ago
Anonymous
>also girls was involved too
Yeah you, homosexual
You were the girl in those scenarios
7 months ago
Anonymous
i like being a guy thou
also we didnt rly do anal (i mean we did stick it in awkwardly and maybe moved around a bit) and usually i was the top but i did let a few friends frick me too yeah
i can say for certain thou when it comes to sex iam much rather the top
i do enjoy a bit of fingering or just having my ass licked thou
dunno if that makes me a dishonest top tbh
Him and the idea of nobodies was fine in 2 but fricking everything after the fact is so bad
I don't know why Nomura brought him back because you just know he is gonna do frick all and be irrelevant because his arc has long been over
Roxas' and Namine's stories should have ended with them merging with Sora and Kairi. It was a happy, but still bittersweet send off and I'm still mad they fricked it up with KH3.
I always felt something about the people who were absurdly obsessed over Kingdom Hearts and today I know it's all these sick fricks who are trannies and terminal gays.
> Jack garland secret boss > Beat the shit out all characters even if you defeat it > What bunch of pathetic homosexuals you are > Jack garland has left the game
>Jack secret boss >finally defeat him, sweat pouring from my brow and hands shaking >cutscene plays, Jack is unharmed >pulls out his phone and starts some Linkin Park or something >just leaves me in the boss arena feeling like a bigger loser than after any of the failed attempts
>love KH1 >indifferent to the card game >playing kh2 and it's nothing but hall ways and cutscenes >people say it's the best in the series
how much worse is 3? should I even bother with the 3ds games?
KH3 has underrated level design but since you're a KH1gay, your shit taste will make you unable to enjoy it
DDD has empty large worlds but the movement mechanics make then damn fun to play
>bill KH3 as the game that will answer all of the questions that have been building up throughout the series >answer basically nothing while adding even more questions >0 stakes the series
seriously, KH is unmatched the action rpg genre
if there's a game as good as making you feel like you're fighting in a shonen with as much content as KH i'd love to see it
KH3 took WAAAAY to long to get made and left people disappointed
you can get people to try and play all the portable games but there's half a decade a lore in mobile game no one played
so basically its fatigue
I like KH, I really really enjoyed 16. Definitely the best mainline ff since x for me and I prefer jt to a good number of the games before x as well, but I'm no rpg purist or anything
No, no kingdom hearts is about beating a yellow bar and your elements meant nothing against an elementsl atuned bossfight like garuda or hugo cucman or the lava golem
I fricking hate versus 13 and gayzora I'm glad nomura got that shit taken from him. I do not care about your gay ff13 spinoff that would have blown like all the rest.
They uped the cheese level, Disney stuff to maximum and removed the interesting aspects of the game like the Final Fantasy and darker storyline of the first Kingdom Hearts games. It failed to deliver a intricate product for the maturing fans who grew up with it.
>ten plus years betweem KH2 and KH3 with a bunch of spin offs that only autistic fans have played >every single game is canon, even the shutdown mobile games, these characters can appear at any given moment in the game >KH3 wasn't the ending that people wanted and instead more stupid shenanigans
The failure of FF7R2 and KH4 will put the final nails in Nomura's coffin.
kh4 will sell sorallion dollars and become the most sucessfull SE franchise (which it already is) replacing final fantasy for good
you may cry, scream and shit your pants at this revelation but rest be asured you simply have to cope with that my brother
KH is suffering from the same franchise decline as final fantasy is it's stupid schlock that literally only devout nomuratards can stomach
remember how the main villain said he was sorry and went to heaven? nomura is literally infantile just like his fanbase its why FF7R is toned down compared to the original game
>hes now going the bait angle after being utterly defeated
boring
since you accepted your defeat already
may your heart be your guiding key
as in please do what your heart tells you and jump in front of a train
YO
Unironically why the FRICK did it take so long for KH3 to release
Seems like they missed a huge opportunity to make more money back when KH was still popular amongst teens who are now all 30+ year old
luminous being a huge trashfire mostly, so they had to switch engines midway through production and remake a bunch of shit from scratch.
Ebin games helping them so much in regards to utilizing unreal (especially for stuff like Fro-zone) is the reaon why they have such a good relationship with one another and why a bunch of SE games are Ebin store exclusives
>Release KH2 >Good game >Instead of doing KH3 just keep releasing slop spread around 3 different consoles to set up the whole narrative of your story >Resell the same games as HD remaster bundles for the snoy machine >Finally release KH3 >Its more slop
I just hope one day Nomura catches his balls on the zipper after peing and dies
Kingdom Hearts 2, Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep, and Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days were the peak of the franchise. Anything after that is just unforgettable dogshit.
KH3 pretty much wrapped up every plot thread aside from phone game shit so it's not like the period between 2 and 3 where you could play days and BBS and re:coded.
I'm not interested in phone gacha, certainly not the upcoming shitty-ass looking mobile game, and the mediocre state of 3 means I have nothing to hype me for 4. Because it'll be bad. I'll still play it anyway, but it'll be bad.
Doesn't help that both the Disney and FF aspects of the game are getting pushed asided for shitty modern day Square anime writing. It's clear Normura doesnt give a shit and frankly he wasn't a good writer anyways. The only game that feels like KH is KH1 and unsurprisingly he didn't write it.
Nojima and Nomura balance each other out if you have one of them by themselves then they go full moron. Don't get me wrong shit is still going to be cringe but it usually ends up being cringe kino so it's fine.
>Sora's story was nicely wrapped up in KH2 and secret ending teased entirely new cast, which people expected to be KH3 >series enters portable hell where Nomura forces you to buy a new platform for each game (DS / PSP / DoCoMo phone / 3DS) otherwise you wouldn't understand the plot >game people expected to be KH3 ends up being a PSP game >noboy knows when KH3 will come out because deveopment can't start without Versus being finished >eventually S-E takes away Versus from Nomura and forces him to make KH3 >after almost 15 years KH3 finally comes out, but the wait for it doesn't pay off >target audience for KH series who grew up with KH1 turned 30+ yo and moved on (because they're not waiting another 20 years for next arc to be finished, they have better stuff to do with life), younger audience either ended up being disappointed with resolution of KH3 or some appeal of earlier titles that caught their interest (Disney dominance in vital plot and not just filler / FF character cameos) is no longer present in the series
After all these years and games people are getting Kingdom Hearts fatigued. This is one of the few franchises that you need to play the spinoff games to understand what's happening. To this day I don't know if I need to play Melody of Memories and knowing Nomura, I probably do. So instead of Kingdom Hearts 4, this is like Kingdom Hearts 8 or 9 and people are getting tired of it. And people were upset that the ending in KH3 was so lackluster - Xehanort who is responsible for a shit ton of bad things going on gets a good ending, and Sora is once again MIA. We wanted a happy ending that ties up the series or at least story arc, not another cliffhanger.
>To this day I don't know if I need to play Melody of Memories and knowing Nomura, I probably do
not really. Theres like 3 minutes of story content in there that will most likely be reiterated in 4
Because Nomurashit is like a self-hosted web page that precedes DeviantArt but offers similar content and it never went offline. Kingdom Hearts is a fricking eyesore in 2023. I hope woke Disney kills it just to spite every homosexual who still enjoys this trash.
Literally which part of the Kingdom Hearts franchise is good? >stop good games from being good?
The last game was a rhythm game asset flip. The next game will be a mobile gacha slop. VIDEO GAMES?
KH3 has a shit narrative arc, pace, theme
Really just had in every way except combat, which still had the fricking annoying immersion breaking Disney rides which had no offtoggle outside of the challenger difficulty (hard I think?)
It was a 10 years wait and it was just objectively bad, especially the new worlds that weren't featured before
Ok good to know you are willing to settle for dogshit but I felt robbed of my full game price of 60 bigguns over 'the rest', you cant tell me you were ok with arrendelle or whatever the let it snow world is
It felt a self aware fanservice episode
Axel dies in 2, makes you feel real bad
Jk hes there in the start of 3, never been better
All I cared about was making the dreams of my 12 year old self come true and that they did.
I already said the rest of the game was garbage, what more do you want from me.
>KH3 >After all these years >Excited to see my Radiant Garden friends >Excited to see the big questions about XIII resolved >Excited to finally get a happy ending where everyone can stay together at the end
im pretty sure its going to be literally Soras MoM for the memes.
or its Sora like people have been saying since kh1 reverse lyrics (he is "ansem", I need more affection than you know, etcetera) I think the second line is from sanctuary but whatever you know what I mean, or are oblivious.
>Decide to check out this Kingdom Hearts thing everyone keeps talking about >Start googling >Apparently there's like 20 games >None are conveniently numbered >Is KH 1.5 set between KH 1 and KH 2? >No it's a port of KH 1 ok >Why the frick is it called 1.5 then >Why are there two Chains of Memories >Is Birth by Sleep and 0.2: Birth by Sleep - A Fragmentary Passage the same game or two different games? >There is a mobile only game >It's canon and important to the overall narrative >There is a game that's impossible to play because the servers shut down years ago >It's canon and important to the overall narrative >Realize I don't even like Disney nor Final Fantasy >Give up and go play something else instead
is a mobile only game >>It's canon and important to the overall narrative
is a game that's impossible to play because the servers shut down years ago >>It's canon and important to the overall narrative
This shit will never fail to make me laugh.
The 5+ hour cutscene compilations and the hours-long video explanations make me laugh even harder.
But it's Nomura who is always crying about Versus, because he wanted to direct that but got cucked and had to settle for KH. If he truly got over it there would be no KH3 secret ending.
>But it's Nomura who is always crying about Versus
Daily reminder that he wrote this after being removed from Versus / FFXV director seat (link doesn't seem to work anymore but the message itself is still easy to find on news sites): >If I had to pick, I am a person more on the dark side like Xehanort and co., I harness the burning anger in my heart into what I create,” >“Kingdom Hearts III’s current development explodes very much in this sense. Each time, it’s a battle with Sora and co. who are the exact opposite of myself, it’s been over 10 years and yet we haven’t reached a conclusion. >“This battle will surely last longer. >“In Kingdom Hearts III as well, I am scheming many challenges that Sora and his friends must overcome, because I myself cannot lose either. And in preparation for the great battle that lies ahead, we have this one book that looks back on their entire journey.
https://sqex.info/message-on-kh3-from-tetsuya-nomura-kh-memorial-ultimania/
Nobody wants to sit through another terrible arc when the series should've closed up at KH3. Does anybody actually give a shit about the box, these morons from the mobile game dimension and masters with animal masks.
I expect the box to end up like Jak and Daxter's secret ending - white flash and no answer.
Also yeah, don't really care about X / UX / DR cast of characters - with everyone having a Keyblade and cast being bloated beyond comprehension (especially when you can resurrect anyone on a whim) they feel copypasted with few minor tweaks.
>Does anybody actually give a shit about the box
beyond that its illuminati symbolism and also appears in nier automata no I don't care about MoMs box. if they^trademark want to reveal the mysteries of the universe I don't know why they're putting it in video games made by disney. other than they don't respect normal people, or even see them as human or whatever.
inb4 people calling me a schizo because they don't see any of it since kh1.
my friend who I played the entire series with (skipping 2.8 cause he didn't get that pack yet but I have it) dropped after 2 worlds in 3.
we had just beaten LW and all of bbs
I honestly don't think dream drop and aquas game would make a difference either he had problems with aspect of 3 itself. not to mention the dlc is 30 bucks, more than they payed for the game itself, and apparently the good part.
yeah no shit, I told them about aquas game and they blanked me until like 3 days ago when I reinstalled that pack and they were like "woah theres more games?" if they're not interested in thing they ignore me completely, its rather annoying actually.
I waited 15 fricking years for kh3. And ya know what I got? A half finished, generic Unreal game riddled with typical Unreal engine issues akin to having been developed by an amateur studio. Every bit of the controls have the special Unreal sluggish feel, the animations, God all of it.
And don't even get me started on the combat, what a fricking joke. That combat might be flashy and dynasty warriors crowd control esque, but it just sucked. It just frickin sucked.
15 years I waited just to be shat on.
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1. KH4 hasnt had any new updates since the first trailer
2. I think a lot of people were expecting the next game Nomura works on to be Verum Rex, so finding out its KH4 instead and that Nomura stated in an interview he made the decision to make KH4 over Verum Rex disheartened a lot of people who were much more excited at the prospects of a Versus XIII/Yozora game
3. The KH community is extremely active on youtube and discord as you can see from pic rel but Ganker doesn't talk about games unless they're FOTM shill threads or gacha so unsurprisingly you see no discussion about it here.
>The KH community is extremely active on youtube and discord as you can see from pic rel
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>a video with 8k views
KHgays are becoming as pathetic as sonicgays
More views and replies than your threads on Ganker ever get kiddo
yes but not more views than your mom's pussy lmfao
OOOHHHHHHHHHHH
LMFAO!!!!!!
So what dude? My Ma's a beautiful lady, of course she turns heads
your right. i wish i sniff her puthy
Also Ganker when it does talk about KH takes up the contrarian "KH1 is the only good one" opinion as if they didn't grow up playing at least up to BBS
But in terms of story, KH1 is the only good one. You'd have to have severe autism to think that the lore that has formed after that is any sort of good.
kh1 story sucks ass and doesnt even start properly till youre in hollow bastion which together with traverse town are the only places worth a damn
kh2 story is superior in every way
the roxas section alone mogs the entirety of generic shounen anime kh1
I still hope he makes Verum Rex. The world needs a serious KH game without the Disney.
I want Verum Rex and Versus 15. There is that one theory where Verum Rex is going to be an allegory for Nomura being torn apart from the Tokyo Team assistants and Verum Rex's sales will gauge interest for Versus 15. Maybe Magia and Aegis are his battle planners who work with him on 7R.
Many Tokyo Team devs are also being re-sorted under Osaka, like Tatsuya Kando and Yuji Abe
>battle planners
>Tokyo Team devs
Aren't most of them still at the company? Nomura needs to get them together. I've said it before but I don't care if Final Fantasy game quality goes down so that I can have the Tokyo Team all in one place to make battle system kino again.
They had to, as kh3 flopped. They believe kh4 will be a success (kek) and verum can ride that wave. Boooii, some people are in for a surprise.
>people who were much more excited at the prospects of a Versus XIII/Yozora game
no one wanted fricking verum rex, if anything people were upset he poisoned kh with that shit
Why does the fricking mobile game have the best storyline in the series?
Because the mobile games get to focus more on the OC stuff, as we've already done all the Disney worlds in them as plots already. It's the same reason CoM has one of the better storylines in the franchise, because the Disney stuff is a backdrop do to being another retelling, while the main plot is solely forwarded in the OC sections.
>Some autistic theory video making 8k views
You guys are pathetic, glad I stopped caring about KH after Birth By Sleep.
>You like the game and discuss its story? You are PATHETIC
I'm sensing a lot of projection there anon
>Ganker stuck replying to racebait, ragebait and gacha trash in an endless offtopic cycle
>KH youtube discussing what they love and enjoying videogames
Soulless vs SOVL
Who's luxus@?
KH3 happened.
before kh3 came out people said the same thing of kh2
half this place gonna be pre ordering 4 anyways you a buncha hypocritical douchetards
Playing it at launch yeah but pre-ordering? Absolutely not.
ill do it if they include bonuses like the ps4 theme and keyblade in kh3
ive been a fan for more than 20 years now i will never stop untill the series is dead
i platinumed bbs and CoM twice both on ps3 and ps4
kh is the sole reason i live
what are you saying, they teased KH3 with just KH2 Sora picking up a keyblade and crowds went nuts.
i mean way back when before bbs even came out in NA
kh2 was hated for being too easy, too many cutscenes, stupid story
pressing x/triangle to win
i still remember all of these and cringe youtubers (who were usually hardcore FF fans) hating the shit out of it
since final mix kh2 is now looked at as the peak of the series which i agree with
The flop that killed a franchise.
Can I get a QRD?
This is it. I’ve never experienced a bigger disappointment in gaming.
bought 3 on release and even got a used ps4 for it. it was hot garbage
>I’ve never experienced a bigger disappointment in gaming
kh3 was worse than mass effect 3 jfc
Sora looks different bros
DDD, KH3, and Union X.
>What went wrong.
0 information since the announcement trailer.
KH as a franchise clearly being undermined while Square pushes the 7Remake trilogy that already has proven to cause issues for previous KH projects like UX and KH3.
Missing Link going Missing Link for over a year.
The last two released entries in the series was a Rhythm Game and a Xehanort prequel story that also got cut short do to budgetary reasons and FF7R Trilogy reasons.
Let's not forget to mention the people with zero faith in the series after they removed everything to do with Final Fantasy from the last mainline game. Still don't understand why they thought you could even have a KH game without FF characters.
Biggest issue is how fricking moronic and convoluted the plot got.
Doesn't help that it was spread across multiple systems (console & handheld,) either.
I try to pretend anything other than main console games exist, but homosexual fans have autism.
Everything was fine until DDD. Like 1,com,2 are fine.
Bbs set the next villain/story up
352 was just about roxas
Coded was whatever.
So then 3d happened, with le timetravel, le everyone is xehanhort, le dream. And 3‘s biggest issue was not be able to let older cast go. You know have like 5-6 trios
>aqua, ven, terra
>roxas, xion, axel
>axel, isa, stralezia
>sora, donald, goofy
>sora, kairi, riku
Like why? Roxas should never been brought back, same with xion. Bbs trio is fine, but better if they died or some shit.
timetravel was introduced in kh2
My ass it was, timetravel was just a justification for having ansem at the beginning of kh1 and a reason to bring all well liked characters back
yes it was moron
that stupid ass door in disney castle bringing you to the river of nostalgia
donald even wanted to frick around with it
>Like why? Roxas should never been brought back, same with xion.
Cheap fan service added into the story last minute.
BASED
Frick DDD frick the "real" organization 13 frick the stupid waking power and frick the bgs trio coming back
DDD is the best entry in the series and has the best story purely for the twewy cast alone
also best worlds in the franchise
cope harder kh2baby
>I saw a character I knew and I clapped!
Kys
yes thats the biggest appeal of the kh franchise
now frick off and die you hd collection secondary
you will never be a real kh fan like us
I bet you didn't even play 1 and 2 on the PS2 you fricking disgusting 3DS zoomer.
says the hd secondary who doesnt even know what a PS2 looks like outside of some e-celeb videos? you already lost the second you decided to argue with a true fan
>I sure do love shit gameplay!
gameplay doesnt matter in kh
also for a 3ds title it has phenomenal gameplay regardless
of course a hd collection secondary wouldnt understand
you prolly heard of kh for the first time from dunkey or something
just kys
you're moronic, stop posting and stop breathing
iam just stating facts
go watch another kh2 speedrun to relax if it upsets you so much nintroony
>nintroony
oh you're another leftypol raider
pretend I never (you)d you then
>VII:R is so shit it doesn't just ruin VII, it brings the entire company down with it
Thanks, Toriyama.
At least XV was a self-contained flop, it didn't bleed into KH.
Nomura has to go.
Nah that's fricking dumb, Nomura's a cool dude
I would agree if KH/FF wouldn't be x100 worse without him.
Nah it's Toriyama who should've gone the way Tabata did when XIII almost made Square go bankrupt.
The fact that Tabata is out for a game that at the end of the day sold ok, while Toriyama is still in after a whole fricking trilogy and a spin off that nobody gave a frick about, is unbelievable to me.
That they then would allow him to turn the VII remake into FFXIII with all the same design choices and even a lite version of the crystarium and its storygating of progression, is incomprehensible.
In my mind there's no way Toriyama doesn't have a video of Square's board eating children.
He must be friends with Larry Fink or some shit.
It just doesn't check out that Tabata is gone and Toriyama is still in failure after failure.
And I don't even like Tabata.
Something's not right at Square.
13 and 13-3 were good
13-3 its that meme chrischan comic altered to ffxiii with toriyama and lightning
> 13 and 13-3 were good
very easy way to discard someone's opinion, then again a bunch of kids had this trash pile as their first FF game, so ofc given enough time this would happen.
serves to show you dont need to make a good product, you just have to lower the standards of the next gen of gamers
Nomura needs to do his stupid versus xiii and return do shit with a restrain
>What went so wrong?
We played KH3 after waiting for KH3. Nomura is more interested in telling his shitty mobile game story than the one we want. There's no more FF. The Disney worlds suck. No one cares about Yozora. Osaka style combat fricking sucks.
>shitty mobile game story than the one we want
What story do you "want"? Sora's story is done. All of the main characters story arcs are complete. Let Nomura create a new story for fricks sake
That ship sailed long ago, anon. Sora completed his arc in II, and Roxas' story got fleshed out in Days, but japs have an autistic inability to end a fricking story, which is why the story devolved into a completely incomprehensible shitshow with ever increasing powercreep and asspulls, just like post namek DBZ. Osaka can't even do gameplay, so the fans can't even cope about the game being fun to play.
He means the other characters. The BBS trio, Xion, Disney, everything related to Xehanort or the organization, etc.
Are you a bot? You aren't even replying to my post. I'm not disagreeing tjat Sora's story should be over.
>Osaka can't even do gameplay
Then its a good thing Osaka team doesn't even exist anymore and the game is being developed by Creative Business Unit 1. And they directly responded to the critiques of Osaka combat with the gameplay tweaks and abilities in 3 ReMind.
How about you make coherent logical sense for once Barry, first you're complaining Nomura is focusing on a story other than Sora, next you're complaining he's focusing on Sora? Delusional True Tabatacel behaviour right there brother.
>I completed the entire DLC on critical mode and had to have observed the changes in abilities and animation cancels yet Osaka combat sucks
100% obsessed bazza cope
>Then its a good thing Osaka team doesn't even exist anymore and the game is being developed by Creative Business Unit 1.
Isn't the Osaka team part of CBU1?
>Are you a bot? You aren't even replying to my post. I'm not disagreeing tjat Sora's story should be over.
Yes, and i wasn't disagreeing with you either. I simply expressed my belief that KH is never going to move past "Sora, Donald and Goofy go on adventures to save the world ad infinatum with ever increasing powercreep and bullshit", just like Dragon ball is never going to go past "Goku beats up bad guys and saves the universe ad infinatum with ever increasing powercreep and bullshit", because japs are too autistic to end a story. Sora already got flanderized into a complete fricking moron, and it's all going to be downhill from here.
>japs are too autistic to end a story
How tf can you look at Western pop media and say something like this as if it were unique to them? You aren't even wrong but literally every country's media is doing this shit to some degree. I'm not an economist but I'm guessing it's because the market incentives are fricked. Not enough willingness to take risks on the big budget media pieces, just safe bets milked forever.
Normally they give good safe endings then put the marvel aftercredits shit sequel bait nomura straight deletes sora from existence for the next game
moron the CBUs still have divisions within themselves and the KH team is 95% in Osaka, only a handful of people are in tokyo like nomura and ferrari, not the people actually making the model assets or systems or programming or textures or animations etc
>Barry
have a nice day, you mentally ill Nomurawienersucker. XV and Tabata are dogshit and so is Nomura.
>Sora's story is done.
Then end his story, you demented frogposting moron.
>Yozora was hype as shit.
>They fixed the combat and listened to feedback in ReMind
I beat the game again on critical and did all the data fights and Yozora as soon as it came out. It's still shit. You're a Nomura wienersucker, which means you're an underage third worlder and nothing you say matters.
you didn't do any of that, Re:Mind makes KH3 barely any different from KH2 in gameplay
the only actual difference in Re:Mind Critical mode is that you have drive forms on the keyblades and can store them for later, instead of just selecting your drive form from the menu.
If you don't like Re:Mind KH3 you don't like KH2 either.
Me, a connoisseur, I like all the KH games.
I like how KH1 feels more like an RPG.
I like how smooth and impactful KH2 and KH3 are.
I like the command system combos of BBS and CoM.
I kinda like the pokemon in DDD, I think it's the weakest entry but it's still really fun.
my soulbrother
kh2 elitism is such cringe
similar to melee gays in smash
Based because true
I'm a KH2 and meleechad
KH1 and brawl/tr4sh are worse than Hitler
I'm not even a smash player but you can tell from a glance that Melee and Ultimate and beyond are extremely different. The pacing is not even comparable.
KH2 and KH3 are by and large the same game, in terms of gameplay
KH3 is just KH2 with a bunch of added fat, Re:Mind takes that off and it's just back to being KH2, which is good.
>you didn't do any of that
Wrong.
>Re:Mind makes KH3 barely any different from KH2 in gameplay
Wrong again. And I just replayed 2FM so your gaslighting attempt won't work. KH2FM bosses start to dripfeed in the shitty gimmick mechanics and long invulnerability phases on some bosses, but it's still worlds away from 3's combat.
>Me, a connoisseur, I like all the KH games.
Blindly liking every part of a franchise doesn't make you a fan, it makes you a wienersucking moron with no standards.
>Sora's story is done.
What are you talking about? He's in Not-Japan dude, Nomura is still not finishing up his story. No one is gonna accept that he just "disappears" infront of Kairi, not even Nomura would allow that to happen.
instead he's making a moronic versus xiii fanfic diluted by kh cancer and oh look sora is who it revolves around again
Unironically just let nomura make his v13 holy shit, you can tell he fricking despises Sora
Its less that he despises Sora and more that he is incapable of relating to Sora.
He likes him the same way he likes all of his creations, its why he has stuck around so long, its just that Sora is more of the foil to the types of characters he actually cares about.
That being the Riku's, Xehanort's and likely Yozora types which need a Sora to serve as counterpoint and protagonist, and in filling that role why not use the character you already know, everyone else likes, and your fine with.
>No one cares about Yozora
Yozora was hype as shit. No one cares about playing Sora (most boring as character after KH2) and running through pixar movie slop for the quintillionth time.
>Osaka combat sucks
They fixed the combat and listened to feedback in ReMind. Fake ass fan alert
>Yozora sucks even doe I didn't even play the DLC he's in
being so assmad about losing versus 13 that he tried to hijack KH is never not funny to me. imagine getting kicked off duke nukem forever so you go and insert some muscled blond queer into another game and try and make an even shittier version of it, then imagine the pushback by actual fans being so bad you back down and go back right afterwards
>Yozora was hype as shit
Even Nomura admits Yozora was a flop.
We were robbed of Final Fantasy Versus XIII
>Yozora was hype as shit. No one cares about playing Sora (most boring as character after KH2)
Yozora is like a parody of bad JRPG protagonists. The only possible redeeming feature of him would be if he really is MoM.
Mouthbreathing sora/disneygay. You got your wish, another slopfest with Sora as MC. We could have had Versus XIII kino but instead we get more PG age rating and interactive pixar movie ads.
people were already waiting over a decade for 3 after endless fricking spinoffs and when 3 finally hit it was kind of bad and didn't really resolve the plot in a way people found satsifying. 4 is already outright stated to be damage control for 3 too because nomura said he wanted to make his new fuccboi OC the main character but people hated sora fricking dying so much he had to immediately walk it back. hopes are really fricking low honestly, it sounds like its going to be filler to give sora a half-assed feel good ending so he can move on to yozora like he actually wants to
wait the ending to 3 was supposed to be sora dying?
Yes nomura really have a more fricked up mind than shinji from evangelion
woah that guy sounds friggin twisted
Still haven't played 3
kh3 flopped and killed kh
>What went so wrong?
Nothing but 100% certified pure liquid diarrhea games after Days kind of tends to do that to a series.
>after Days
I think you mean starting with days.
i bought 3 when it came out and never even played it
i didn't know 4 even got announced
same honestly
I also had no idea that they even announced it
on the field we call this behaviour being a bandwagoner or fake fan
Should have ended with 3 given how much they built up. Instead they just couldn't help themselves and had to greenlit a sequel with the ending and epilogue to tease yet another game.
They finished the stories of all of the characters we cared about, and Kingdom Hearts' lore isn't compelling for someone old enough to have played the games when they were still coming out.
bros last month i finished kh1 and CoM and im near 100%ing kh2 now please tell me there is more good kh games left for me to experince...
BBS and 3ReMind are really good. DDD is pretty enjoyable
>westoids and ironic weebs seething over Pure NOMURA KINO
KINO
Warning: New KH-anons or anons who wish to play KH. Spoilers abound in all threads about the game. I recommend avoiding said threads unless you do not care.
too late. ill probably end up just watching a playthrough instead
Try acquiring a GF. They cause memory loss. Make sure to unequip the GF prior to starting KH however.
It's hard to care when there's no news, no games in the meantime, and the PC ports are stuck on Epic.
Step aside Snora, Yabora, Keku and Jobax.
He's the most powerful KH protagonist.
>what went so wrong?
KH3 being nothing more than a seedbed for all future lore going forward is what happened. KH3 was the ultimate middle finger to any long term fan, all it did was quickly wrap up a few old plot points so we could quickly get out of this "saga" so that we can move on to the next. Also, with how horrible all the worlds were in 3 there's little hope any of the worlds going forward will be any good, they'll mostly fall into the same trap that frozen did in that they can't do anything interesting with it. It's also too anime now, it started in 2 but it was bearable but for some reason when DDD dropped it just nose dived, I don't recall any of the characters doing that homosexual anime gasp even half as much in 1, 2, and even BBS like they do in DDD and 3. It's just all too gay now, even for me.
>KH3 was the ultimate middle finger to any long term fan, all it did was quickly wrap up a few old plot points so we could quickly get out of this "saga" so that we can move on to the next
This made me drop the series.
BBS was way more anime than DDD, unless you just mean the flow motion combat.
Sora has never had an "arc", not sure what you guys are talking about. Only Riku has had an arc.
I always thought KH1 was setting up a story about Sora getting out from under Riku's shadow and proving himself.
That went the frick away after Sora got brain damage in KH2.
Disney sucks. FF sucks. I don't know why you would want any more KH.
Gay series for morons
Never forget KH3's legacy
A rushed, unfinished, mess that Nomura struggled writing.
>I had quite a tough time writing the story this time around. [...] I rewrote the ending multiple times, and took a lot of time deciding how I want it to play out on the screen. After much thought, I ended up keeping it simple. I believe that KINGDOM HEARTS III is truly completed when the two thoughts - whatever you feel from playing the game, and my thoughts that I’ve secretly placed in the game - match up together. I hope that everyone playing the game will complete the game for us.
Floaty garbage that'll be corrected in KH4.
>The challenge is with the action gameplay. It’s hard to execute the satisfying action moves when the footing isn't very secure. That's something we're working on and hoping we can realize as an aspect of gameplay in Kingdom Hearts IV.
Failed new characters.
>When Yozora was first introduced in KHIII, I got the impression that his reception was less than welcoming
Entire staff got fired.
>We had some organizational changes after finishing KH3, and I'm very sorry this took so much longer than expected.
Why did KH 3 gameplay feel so weird? They need to go back to the original combat
Disney wanted to use it to advertise Disneyland, and that affected much of the design.
for me it isnt the combat but the amount of enemies
it isnt fun being randomly one shotted from the back each time
you pretty much have to rely on magic before getting into any fight and you can still have bad luck and be hit by some moronic attack
critical mode felt better in kh2 and more balanced
howevever extra content added after release is godly in kh3 and square this time bothered to release it outside of japan
i fricking hate how Ganker never brings this up
kh2 vanilla was great still but had almost no content outside the main story
so basicly
main game
kh2 > kh3
additional content
kh3 > kh2
also it was incredibly fricking gay how the kh3 intro was just put onto fricking 2.8
square for the love of god even as an extreme kh fan for more than 20 years now i genuinly wouldnt mind if the company goes under for the crimes they have done against both the nier and kh series with their incredibly disgusting gacha shit games
square enix literally defecating on my childhood
>please play this kingdom hearts themed slot machine! it even has exclusive story!!!
all square enix CEOs should croak and die in the worst possible way
Square only announced it about 1.5 years ago, so we've still got at least 4 more years before release.
reminder that we already know what one of the worlds will be
>starting with return of the jedi
yawn
its purely so they can have a darth vader fight where sora can say "i still sense light in you"
No final fantasy no buy
there's been no info since the trailer that came out like 2 years ago, Barry
Is it over?
Fans are not young anymore
Tim
Plot too autistic
Unironically should have just made verum rex and start a new ip with kh gameplay
What went so right, you mean. KH is one of the few series that has actually aged like milk, espically all the disney worlds. Instead of getting rid of all the final fantasy stuff they should have doubled down on that and left out more mouseshit
>another mobile game
>still nothing on KH4 since the trailer
literally nothing to talk about
Didn't stop KH3 (before we knew it was shit)
Im mad they dont bother put the damn island + sora village as surprise
What worlds are even left anymore? You know they won't do Treasure Planet
Now it's time to redo old worlds but modelled after the live action remakes as some kind of alternate version of those worlds
The truth is nobody aside from reddit cares about their shitty mobile games.
>make fully 3d side game where you get to create your character
>mobile only
Why do they keep doing this, they even added controller support for Missing Link
gacha make alot of money and handheld market is dead
also square enix is japanese EA
Frick are we supposed to care about they haven't shown shit and it's probably not coming out for at least 5 years
why don't you shut your fat ass up before i pwn it?
shut up noob
KH3 was shit
How many games do you think 3.5 Remix will include and which one will be a movie cutscene?
Not finishing a fricking trilogy shilled by lot of bootleg spinoffs
The truth of the matter is KH4's in dev hell until the remake trilogy is finished.
Even in 3's lifetime we were getting actual substantial leaks like the Monsters Inc build being leaked and Disney just straight up announcing Big Hero 6 world.
A series of game too spaced in time that kills any momentum, a decade waiting for an average game like kh3 that lacked in every single aspect fans were asking for, a nonsense happy ending for a trilogy after 20 years of speculation.
They killed kingdom hearts as a brand, no one even cares at this point. They weren't even intelligent enough to capitalize on edgy emo era, they were just lucky.
This character did more damage to the franchise than any other. Yes, even Xehanort
yeah but dool weld
He would have been fine if he never appeared again after 2
i remember looking at the kh2 PS2 boxart and thinking "god he looks fricking cool"
my cousin even said he wants to be him when we both played it at my place
he usually only prefered cool characters in anime like sasuke or vegeta
also he was one of the first boys to ever experiment with me shit was hot
>kh fan had a gay incest experience as a child
yeah that checks out
technicly hes my half cousin but still yeah youre right
i had tons of gay/straight experimentation as a kid either with cousins or classmates or just friends
isnt that typical for most young kids? playing doctor and stuff like that
sure with the girl down the street but not your male cousin you homosexual
dont care still had sex
also girls was involved too
sometimes even a threesome with both a friend and his gf
i still fap to these memories
>also girls was involved too
Yeah you, homosexual
You were the girl in those scenarios
i like being a guy thou
also we didnt rly do anal (i mean we did stick it in awkwardly and maybe moved around a bit) and usually i was the top but i did let a few friends frick me too yeah
i can say for certain thou when it comes to sex iam much rather the top
i do enjoy a bit of fingering or just having my ass licked thou
dunno if that makes me a dishonest top tbh
He should've not came back along with the ORG after 2
Yup 3ds was a fricking redflag instead of different age of xehanort with funny balding you have the same hooded gays like marluxia
It was fine in kh2 problem was ventus having the same skin with an armored arm and different clothes and that moronic wielding of the key
Nah the problem is that Roxas, Xion and Axel all fricking suck
Ah yes the cute emo OC was enough simping in this game how convenient she was forgetable
The one thing kh3 did right was turning him into a puppet with no dick and zero relevancy in the story.
Him and the idea of nobodies was fine in 2 but fricking everything after the fact is so bad
I don't know why Nomura brought him back because you just know he is gonna do frick all and be irrelevant because his arc has long been over
Roxas' and Namine's stories should have ended with them merging with Sora and Kairi. It was a happy, but still bittersweet send off and I'm still mad they fricked it up with KH3.
no ones ever really gone
Yozora needs his own intro in KH4
I always felt something about the people who were absurdly obsessed over Kingdom Hearts and today I know it's all these sick fricks who are trannies and terminal gays.
damn so youre telling me a series that features dominatly male cast of very attractive characters is enjoyed by gay people???? no WAY
>my broad assumptions are facts!
you must have been the biggest KH fan to be such a gay now
I just want Nomura to make a new Dissidia game. Honestly, I'll buy KH4 if it just has a Jack cameo.
> Jack garland secret boss
> Beat the shit out all characters even if you defeat it
> What bunch of pathetic homosexuals you are
> Jack garland has left the game
>he returns and calls xehanort a b***h, and says he doesn't give a frick who he is
Jack... I kneel.
>Jack secret boss
>finally defeat him, sweat pouring from my brow and hands shaking
>cutscene plays, Jack is unharmed
>pulls out his phone and starts some Linkin Park or something
>just leaves me in the boss arena feeling like a bigger loser than after any of the failed attempts
I do, in fact i played almost through the entire series in preparation despite never touching the series beforehand
can i still enjoy kh even if i hate disney?
Yes
t. Disney hater. Only liked Aladin
>love KH1
>indifferent to the card game
>playing kh2 and it's nothing but hall ways and cutscenes
>people say it's the best in the series
how much worse is 3? should I even bother with the 3ds games?
KH3 has underrated level design but since you're a KH1gay, your shit taste will make you unable to enjoy it
DDD has empty large worlds but the movement mechanics make then damn fun to play
No, they're all pretty underwhelming.
KH1 was lightning in a bottle.
3 its full disney world and cutscenes of allies and villians doing things
>bill KH3 as the game that will answer all of the questions that have been building up throughout the series
>answer basically nothing while adding even more questions
>0 stakes the series
For me? It's Kino Hearts 2, the undisputed king.
I don’t understand how they can’t replicate this game.
Most of the guys that desifned that fricked off to other companies
>create perfection
>leave squeenix
Unfathomably based.
seriously, KH is unmatched the action rpg genre
if there's a game as good as making you feel like you're fighting in a shonen with as much content as KH i'd love to see it
Will kh4 be on ue5?
That would explain the zero information we've gotten, inevitable dev hell
KH3 took WAAAAY to long to get made and left people disappointed
you can get people to try and play all the portable games but there's half a decade a lore in mobile game no one played
so basically its fatigue
I know the chances of this are near 0 but I hope the star wars world is like toy story and doesn't follow the movies plot
I wish the way they handled Pixar worlds was like that for the others instead of a awkward movie retailing
do any KH days like FF16? I seen a lot of people shitting on it for being more hack and slash than rpg but that sounds better to me
I like KH, I really really enjoyed 16. Definitely the best mainline ff since x for me and I prefer jt to a good number of the games before x as well, but I'm no rpg purist or anything
No, no kingdom hearts is about beating a yellow bar and your elements meant nothing against an elementsl atuned bossfight like garuda or hugo cucman or the lava golem
I fricking hate versus 13 and gayzora I'm glad nomura got that shit taken from him. I do not care about your gay ff13 spinoff that would have blown like all the rest.
They uped the cheese level, Disney stuff to maximum and removed the interesting aspects of the game like the Final Fantasy and darker storyline of the first Kingdom Hearts games. It failed to deliver a intricate product for the maturing fans who grew up with it.
>ten plus years betweem KH2 and KH3 with a bunch of spin offs that only autistic fans have played
>every single game is canon, even the shutdown mobile games, these characters can appear at any given moment in the game
>KH3 wasn't the ending that people wanted and instead more stupid shenanigans
The failure of FF7R2 and KH4 will put the final nails in Nomura's coffin.
kh4 will sell sorallion dollars and become the most sucessfull SE franchise (which it already is) replacing final fantasy for good
you may cry, scream and shit your pants at this revelation but rest be asured you simply have to cope with that my brother
lmao
KH is suffering from the same franchise decline as final fantasy is it's stupid schlock that literally only devout nomuratards can stomach
remember how the main villain said he was sorry and went to heaven? nomura is literally infantile just like his fanbase its why FF7R is toned down compared to the original game
idc about your schizo babble i just wanna talk kh
this ff shit never interested me
Oh thank God. For a minute there I thought someone ACTUALLY liked DDD. Phew, you really had me going.
>hes now going the bait angle after being utterly defeated
boring
since you accepted your defeat already
may your heart be your guiding key
as in please do what your heart tells you and jump in front of a train
YO
>Stuck alone in a dead universe where only fake memories and real monsters exist, and your only companionship is found in tamed monsters
Why was DDD's setting so fricking kino?
Makes sense after 3 as a non spinoff nintendo game not before 3
Unironically why the FRICK did it take so long for KH3 to release
Seems like they missed a huge opportunity to make more money back when KH was still popular amongst teens who are now all 30+ year old
DDD was supossed to be kh3 before it got 3DS'ed
Nomura doesn't want to work on KH anymore.
Luminous engine, square anix peark retatdedness period with a cei that change offices cause a fortuneteller told him, ffxiv 1.0 crash,etc
luminous being a huge trashfire mostly, so they had to switch engines midway through production and remake a bunch of shit from scratch.
Ebin games helping them so much in regards to utilizing unreal (especially for stuff like Fro-zone) is the reaon why they have such a good relationship with one another and why a bunch of SE games are Ebin store exclusives
KH 3 was an utter failure on a narrative level.
Nothing matters now.
It retroactively made the best moments of KH2 toothless.
I did not care for moronerra, jobqua, and guest star plank from the ed, edd, and eddy series.
I'm not hyping myself up again for 5 years to ultimately get a filler game that isn't even good.
I hate Osaka team so much it's unreal
Might be nostalgia but I recently replayed this and it holds up perfectly.
For me it's the dreamlike atmosphere none of the later games even attempted to preserve.
>Release KH2
>Good game
>Instead of doing KH3 just keep releasing slop spread around 3 different consoles to set up the whole narrative of your story
>Resell the same games as HD remaster bundles for the snoy machine
>Finally release KH3
>Its more slop
I just hope one day Nomura catches his balls on the zipper after peing and dies
>Disney era
KH1
CoM
>Homosexuals in trenchcoats era
KH2
Days
>Xehanort is behind everything era
BBS
DDD
KH3
Kingdom Hearts 2, Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep, and Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days were the peak of the franchise. Anything after that is just unforgettable dogshit.
Ganker with a based take for once
God Terra was an idiot.
The entire BBS trio were completely moronic.
Don't care, he has one of the only good character designs in this entire shit series.
KH3 pretty much wrapped up every plot thread aside from phone game shit so it's not like the period between 2 and 3 where you could play days and BBS and re:coded.
I'm not interested in phone gacha, certainly not the upcoming shitty-ass looking mobile game, and the mediocre state of 3 means I have nothing to hype me for 4. Because it'll be bad. I'll still play it anyway, but it'll be bad.
Nomura needs to drop the cloaks already. They're cool and all but they kinda stop being cool and start being lazy when 2/3rds of your cast wear them.
Or at least invert it and make them white. Maybe add a pointy hood for visual flare.
Doesn't help that both the Disney and FF aspects of the game are getting pushed asided for shitty modern day Square anime writing. It's clear Normura doesnt give a shit and frankly he wasn't a good writer anyways. The only game that feels like KH is KH1 and unsurprisingly he didn't write it.
Yeah, instead KH1 was written by the incredibly competent... Nojima.
Yup. Mr. Blitzball bomb himself.
Nojima has his flaws but as we can see, he is superior to Nomura
Nojima and Nomura balance each other out if you have one of them by themselves then they go full moron. Don't get me wrong shit is still going to be cringe but it usually ends up being cringe kino so it's fine.
>KH1 credits
>Scenario
>Scenario Supervisor = Keiko Nobumoto
>Scenario Writers = Jun Akiyama / Daisuke Watanabe / Kazushige Nojima
It wasn't just Nojima
>Sora's story was nicely wrapped up in KH2 and secret ending teased entirely new cast, which people expected to be KH3
>series enters portable hell where Nomura forces you to buy a new platform for each game (DS / PSP / DoCoMo phone / 3DS) otherwise you wouldn't understand the plot
>game people expected to be KH3 ends up being a PSP game
>noboy knows when KH3 will come out because deveopment can't start without Versus being finished
>eventually S-E takes away Versus from Nomura and forces him to make KH3
>after almost 15 years KH3 finally comes out, but the wait for it doesn't pay off
>target audience for KH series who grew up with KH1 turned 30+ yo and moved on (because they're not waiting another 20 years for next arc to be finished, they have better stuff to do with life), younger audience either ended up being disappointed with resolution of KH3 or some appeal of earlier titles that caught their interest (Disney dominance in vital plot and not just filler / FF character cameos) is no longer present in the series
After all these years and games people are getting Kingdom Hearts fatigued. This is one of the few franchises that you need to play the spinoff games to understand what's happening. To this day I don't know if I need to play Melody of Memories and knowing Nomura, I probably do. So instead of Kingdom Hearts 4, this is like Kingdom Hearts 8 or 9 and people are getting tired of it. And people were upset that the ending in KH3 was so lackluster - Xehanort who is responsible for a shit ton of bad things going on gets a good ending, and Sora is once again MIA. We wanted a happy ending that ties up the series or at least story arc, not another cliffhanger.
>To this day I don't know if I need to play Melody of Memories and knowing Nomura, I probably do
not really. Theres like 3 minutes of story content in there that will most likely be reiterated in 4
Story already past its point of "perfect end spot". Much like Toy Story did with 3, but higher ups still decide to milk.
https://www.ign.com/articles/toy-story-5-release-date-cast-story-details
>What went so wrong?
KH3
No Final Fantasy no buy
Because Nomurashit is like a self-hosted web page that precedes DeviantArt but offers similar content and it never went offline. Kingdom Hearts is a fricking eyesore in 2023. I hope woke Disney kills it just to spite every homosexual who still enjoys this trash.
How does [current year] stop good games from being good?
Literally which part of the Kingdom Hearts franchise is good?
>stop good games from being good?
The last game was a rhythm game asset flip. The next game will be a mobile gacha slop. VIDEO GAMES?
Hey, KH OST is pretty good
KH1 OST felt like an extension to Legend of Mana's OST (Yoko's tastes in terms of instruments have changed by KH2)
KH3 has a shit narrative arc, pace, theme
Really just had in every way except combat, which still had the fricking annoying immersion breaking Disney rides which had no offtoggle outside of the challenger difficulty (hard I think?)
It was a 10 years wait and it was just objectively bad, especially the new worlds that weren't featured before
It gave my boy Roxas a good ending with Xion and no-longer-Axel, so I'm okay with the rest of the game being shit
Ok good to know you are willing to settle for dogshit but I felt robbed of my full game price of 60 bigguns over 'the rest', you cant tell me you were ok with arrendelle or whatever the let it snow world is
It felt a self aware fanservice episode
Axel dies in 2, makes you feel real bad
Jk hes there in the start of 3, never been better
All I cared about was making the dreams of my 12 year old self come true and that they did.
I already said the rest of the game was garbage, what more do you want from me.
I would quote the network 1976 'I want you to get mad' speech for you but its more then 2000 characters
Ah, you're a boomer.
That explains a lot, actually.
>KH3
>After all these years
>Excited to see my Radiant Garden friends
>Excited to see the big questions about XIII resolved
>Excited to finally get a happy ending where everyone can stay together at the end
And then I played it.
But you got all that and more
All we don't know is who MoM is
Who cares who the MoM is
im pretty sure its going to be literally Soras MoM for the memes.
or its Sora like people have been saying since kh1 reverse lyrics (he is "ansem", I need more affection than you know, etcetera) I think the second line is from sanctuary but whatever you know what I mean, or are oblivious.
Can't care about something we still know nothing about and haven't had news in more than a year.
>Decide to check out this Kingdom Hearts thing everyone keeps talking about
>Start googling
>Apparently there's like 20 games
>None are conveniently numbered
>Is KH 1.5 set between KH 1 and KH 2?
>No it's a port of KH 1 ok
>Why the frick is it called 1.5 then
>Why are there two Chains of Memories
>Is Birth by Sleep and 0.2: Birth by Sleep - A Fragmentary Passage the same game or two different games?
>There is a mobile only game
>It's canon and important to the overall narrative
>There is a game that's impossible to play because the servers shut down years ago
>It's canon and important to the overall narrative
>Realize I don't even like Disney nor Final Fantasy
>Give up and go play something else instead
is a mobile only game
>>It's canon and important to the overall narrative
is a game that's impossible to play because the servers shut down years ago
>>It's canon and important to the overall narrative
This shit will never fail to make me laugh.
The 5+ hour cutscene compilations and the hours-long video explanations make me laugh even harder.
All this bullshit crying about ''Verum Rex'' and versus.
Nomura had some old content from versus left and decided to re-use it for KH to save bucks and ideas. Nothing more, nothing less.
But it's Nomura who is always crying about Versus, because he wanted to direct that but got cucked and had to settle for KH. If he truly got over it there would be no KH3 secret ending.
>But it's Nomura who is always crying about Versus
Daily reminder that he wrote this after being removed from Versus / FFXV director seat (link doesn't seem to work anymore but the message itself is still easy to find on news sites):
>If I had to pick, I am a person more on the dark side like Xehanort and co., I harness the burning anger in my heart into what I create,”
>“Kingdom Hearts III’s current development explodes very much in this sense. Each time, it’s a battle with Sora and co. who are the exact opposite of myself, it’s been over 10 years and yet we haven’t reached a conclusion.
>“This battle will surely last longer.
>“In Kingdom Hearts III as well, I am scheming many challenges that Sora and his friends must overcome, because I myself cannot lose either. And in preparation for the great battle that lies ahead, we have this one book that looks back on their entire journey.
https://sqex.info/message-on-kh3-from-tetsuya-nomura-kh-memorial-ultimania/
The mental gymnastics that Nomura got angry all of a sudden and there's no clear target are funny.
Nobody wants to sit through another terrible arc when the series should've closed up at KH3. Does anybody actually give a shit about the box, these morons from the mobile game dimension and masters with animal masks.
I expect the box to end up like Jak and Daxter's secret ending - white flash and no answer.
Also yeah, don't really care about X / UX / DR cast of characters - with everyone having a Keyblade and cast being bloated beyond comprehension (especially when you can resurrect anyone on a whim) they feel copypasted with few minor tweaks.
>Does anybody actually give a shit about the box
beyond that its illuminati symbolism and also appears in nier automata no I don't care about MoMs box. if they^trademark want to reveal the mysteries of the universe I don't know why they're putting it in video games made by disney. other than they don't respect normal people, or even see them as human or whatever.
inb4 people calling me a schizo because they don't see any of it since kh1.
why would anyone care about this dogshit series unless they had brain damage?
>What went so wrong?
kh3
my friend who I played the entire series with (skipping 2.8 cause he didn't get that pack yet but I have it) dropped after 2 worlds in 3.
we had just beaten LW and all of bbs
I honestly don't think dream drop and aquas game would make a difference either he had problems with aspect of 3 itself. not to mention the dlc is 30 bucks, more than they payed for the game itself, and apparently the good part.
your friend is kinda moronic going into kh3 and skipping the most essential games to properly play and understand it
yeah no shit, I told them about aquas game and they blanked me until like 3 days ago when I reinstalled that pack and they were like "woah theres more games?" if they're not interested in thing they ignore me completely, its rather annoying actually.
I just want Sora, Kairi and Riku as a party
Mental how they got shafted in kh3 ending while everyone else is happy
I waited 15 fricking years for kh3. And ya know what I got? A half finished, generic Unreal game riddled with typical Unreal engine issues akin to having been developed by an amateur studio. Every bit of the controls have the special Unreal sluggish feel, the animations, God all of it.
And don't even get me started on the combat, what a fricking joke. That combat might be flashy and dynasty warriors crowd control esque, but it just sucked. It just frickin sucked.
15 years I waited just to be shat on.