What was the worst /tg/ related kickstarter that you've ever backed? What was the best? What are you backing right now?
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Rehashing threads now, neckbeardia?
Frick neckbeardia.
He didn't get enough the first go around.
Megan's cute. Cute!
Post pic.
When is he going to give us a lewd pregnant mini of Meghan?
Super Dungeon Explore: Legends
Mekton: Zero
Where's my game Pondsmith.
he'll die of a heart attack or complications from diabetes before completing a game
>What was the worst /tg/ related kickstarter that you've ever backed?
I've only ever backed out of one project. Rivet Wars, back in...2013?
>What was the best?
Devastation of Indines or Jagged Earth tie for most value in box. Ridiculous amount of great content.
>What are you backing right now?
Just dropped picrel on flickfleets
>>What was the worst /tg/ related kickstarter that you've ever backed?
>>I've only ever backed out of one project.
"Backed", not "backed out", lol
Relic Knights. Lots of delays for shit quality models and piss poor rules.
Worst: torment tides of numeria
Best: battletech clan invasion
>Worst: torment tides of numeria
what was bad about it?
>torment: tides of numenera
Agreed. Such a heart break.
This. Clan invasion kickstarter was great.
2nd best I've backed is Ryuutama. No other expansions like they promised, but the book's good
it wasn't that bad
>What was the worst /tg/ related kickstarter that you've ever backed?
None because I dont back at kickstarter or crowdfunding projects.
I dont do that, because its based at a flawed premise.
The premise is that free money is enough to make a idea change its variable It-Exist? from false to true.
This premise is flawed and so crowdfunded is a flawed thing.
PS: There is just one type of exception. Like as some example a band have the money and would be able to produce 200 vinyls but it doenst know if people would want it. So it create a crowdfunding where after 200 people back it, they will produce the thing. This is an exception because here they are 100% able to do the thing with the exact amount money they are asking for and the amount of money they are asking for, and would be able to do it without people help (assuming they were ok with losing that money if they dont sell the thing)
>The premise is that free money is enough to make a idea change its variable It-Exist? from false to true.
>This premise is flawed and so crowdfunded is a flawed thing.
It's not necessarily about "It-Exist", but "It-Good". For example, being able to commission art for a book that you have written. You could use shitty stock art or publish a no-art version, sure, or you could get a good layout guy and artist hired with that money and make something that shines.
This is dumb, Kickstarters exist to generate capital that then is able to pad out margins on what would otherwise be terminally niche products.
That describes literally hundreds of projects on the platform right now. Book projects in particular as a rule are ready to go and use Kickstarter to figure out how many copies to print in a way that gets them paid in advance so they can't miscalculate their publishing costs.
Yeah, it does seem back asswards to me just fronting someone a sero interest loan with no obligation of ever delivering anything in return.
Kickstarter just giving the money over without any chacks and balances seems like the issue to me.
The hard part of any project is *finishing* it. Any idiot can *start* a project, the hard work comes at the end when you're sick of it, noone cares any more and you just need to grind through and get it done. That's why the reddit-style lolrandom "Muh think of project, Muh start project, muh think of new project, muh start project" annoys me. Yeah, that's not whimsical and it's not funny, it's a thing that can genuinely frick your life up.
They should have something in place to incentivise delivering, even if it's just a portion of the money being held back or something.
>The premise is that free money is enough to make a idea change its variable It-Exist? from false to true.
oh no, it's moronic
god just frick off back to Ganker already.
As a moron, what's your take on the Ransom model of content production?
It's just gambling for toys instead of profit, I don't do it either but gambling's a popular activity in every civilization ever
You are getting at an underlying issue with KS which is that its kind of obscure what exactly you are funding. Are funding basic R&D? Or is the product practically ready to go and they just need an art budget? Some freinds and I are about to launch a KS of our own for miniatures. We made sure going in that 80% of models are production ready. Other than paying for the 5th of 5 armies we are mostly usinh KS as a tool to get sales and some legitimacy as a company. So in our case we have a product that is already good to go, we just need people to buy it.
Why did you open the thread moron.
Anyway I got reaper minis years ago, good models but it did have a dupe/missing piece of a dragon but they fixed the issue quickly for free.
I backed Thousand Arrows in 2018 and it still isn't out. How hard is it to make a PbtA game?
It really isn't. Either all the art is bottlenecking the project or the guy doesn't put in the work he's paid for.
the only kickstarter I've ever backed was Mothership
we'll see if it works out
It seems to be coming together, not sure if they can get it done in time. I haven't heard problems with their previous kickstarters, so I'm pretty hopeful.
Like I said last thread, best has been Engine Heart that /tg/ did a decade ago. Currently backing By This Axe, the new dwarf book for ACKS, and hoping it can clear its last-day stretch goal to get the furnacewife class unlock.
This looks cool, link?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/autarch/by-this-axe-the-cyclopedia-of-dwarven-civilization/description
Lmao but you'd better hurry if you want to back, it has like 10 minutes left
>What was the worst /tg/ related kickstarter that you've ever backed?
Pulp Invasion
Looked like a cool card game using old pulp art. Good price for game and 2 expansions (ks was for the latest expansion and reprints)
Card sizes from base and both expansions are all slightly different sizes.
How do you frick that up?
>Card sizes from base and both expansions are all slightly different sizes.
>How do you frick that up?
Spending the backer money on meth
Only ever backed Kingdom Death and it made me never back anything else again
Why so?
I backed kingdom death and the fact that they actually delivered led me to backing a bunch of others.
I knew i was in for a long haul on that one. looking forward to getting my gambler's chest at the end of this year/beginning of next if the current timeline is to be believed.
Zombicide: Undead or Alive.
Zombicide: Marvel Zombies.
>Zombicide: Marvel Zombies
>that shipping price reveal
You get butt fricked by CMON over that snafu?
I was pretty much broke when the campaign ran, only backed for a dollar and forgot about it.
Ignored the campaign.
Got a new job.
Got a bigger paycheck.
Remembered the campaign.
It was the last day to lock in for single delivery.
Blew the paycheck.
I didn't bother with Galactus, but I knew I was getting screwed with delivery costs and conversion rates anyway. Par for the course for my home country.
i buyed teh female space marines
Bullshit, noone's that much of a coomer.
i stuck my fingers in myself five times yesterday
link to page?
https://gamefound.com/projects/miniwargaming/ravaged-star
i got the VEIL TOUCHED WAR PACK with the bonus VEIL TOUCHED ASCENDED ELITE PACK and also i buyed and extra VEIL TOUCHED HEADHUNTERS SQUAD PACK because i wanted enough for a full army
didnt bother with the REQs because theyre ugly and expensive and idk i could buy other REQs later
im gonna paint them up as chaos iron warriors
Jesus Christ I'm developing anxiety just looking at all the unnecessary extra detail on those models, holy shit. 3/10 would not want to paint.
yeah its gonna be some good practice but i think theyll look good when done
Awful looking miniatures
What are the chances they actually deliver?
100%?
none of the companies involved are new or unknown
They're cool to look at but the thought of painting those makes me ill. Also the fact it's trying to launch a whole thing based on
>It's 40K BUT
would be bad enough for a kickstarter (I don't mind 3P models FWIW, I love stuff like Hydracast and wanna get into designing printable bitz and models), but
>It's Space Marines BUT FEMALE
is just cringeworthy. We see EXACTLY what you're doing and it's not funny, clever or worthwhile. Frick off. It's gonna be another brief 15-minutes-of-fame case amongst certain hobbytubers and it'll be forgotten like all the rest. There's nothing unique or interesting about it like Turnip28 (which I might add doesn't even have official minis beyond downloadable .stl files for converting), it's LITERALLY just overdesigned models aimed at the "What if Marines BUT GIRL?" types.
Garbage.
tl;dr im gonna be pretty happy with my female space marines and im not scared of painting them and i like having niche stuff
nice plug for your ww1 potato game though i hope it takes off but i dont think being angry about other people enjoying things is helping with marketing sorry
Hot take: I'd rather we got more aesthetic/subculture flexibility for Sisters of Battle than just made girl marines. For example, a Convent that was established to bring the word of the Emperor to a tropical world inspired by South East Asia, which adapted elements of the creed to entice the locals into following their edicts (much like the Spanish did in the Philippines) and in the process adopted elements of the local cultures themselves. Even at the painting level you could give the cloth parts patterns inspired by, say, native Tagalog textiles. That? That'd be interesting. Space Marines BUT GIRLS is, even aside from pandering to people who don't belong in our hobby, just fricking boring.
i dont think thats really a hot take anon but likedo you do anything to achieve that or do u just talk about it online
>Space Marines BUT GIRLS is, even aside from pandering to people who don't belong in our hobby, just fricking boring.
idk i like how they look and i dont get why i dont belong in this hobby lol
ok i lied i read your post just now
>It's Space Marines BUT FEMALE
i dont think any of the marketing is portraying them like that? i just say that because its why im buying them, and even the pack im buying is mostly not explicitly female sculpted marines so idk what youre on, its not weird to have 30% of a miniature army be female
>it's not funny, clever or worthwhile.
thats, just, like your opinion bro. i think theyre funny and fun
> It's gonna be another brief 15-minutes-of-fame case amongst certain hobbytubers and it'll be forgotten like all the rest.
what? theyre models dude im buying them to paint and play them im not buying them because i think theyre going to be famous lol
>There's nothing unique or interesting about it
theres nothing "unique" or "interesting" about lots of model lines they just look cool and thats enough
> it's LITERALLY just overdesigned models aimed at the "What if Marines BUT GIRL?" types.
again im pretty sure its just aimed at people who want overdesigned chaos marines (thats me!) the female thing is just a bonus
overall i dont see why youre so angry, lots of people like them and the company making them is getting money from that so whats the real problem, is nobody allowed to make things that offend u or smthn? because everyone else is happy (me, thats me im happy)
Only ever have backed the Blade Runner RPG. The printed version and the boxed set are still coming, but I'm pleased with the PDF versions so far. No complaints, really.
I've had like three or four fail with no refunds. So any of those.
One was for Mandate, a space ship/fleet videogame.
The second was something like Dark Age Outpost, that was supposed to be a bunch of cheap wooden fort walls.
Then another one for paper terrain.
This was the most disappointing. I'm a fan of the novels and I wanted this game to be good. I've never used the Hero System but it seems needlessly complex. This is a fun setting with lots of monsters and gunplay and action. Simple would have been best. A lot of the artwork is also laughably bad, though I must say that some of it is actually quite good.
Blacklist Miniatures.
Enough said.
Nomen est omen?
I'm waiting on Avatar Legends. Should be getting my physical copy of the rulebook in the next couple months or something.
I doubt many people back enough crowdfunding projects to make "best" and "worst" a meaningful comparison.
I only backed two, and they were both from established companies so it was basically just a preorder. It was the original Reaper Bones kickstarter and an Indiegogo by Avatars of War miniatures. I got what I paid for in both instances, though the Reaper miniatures definitely were the better deal. (The later Bones kickstarters weren't nearly as good as the first, so I didn't back them.)
not really /tg/ related but i feel like i've already gotten my money's worth of entertainment out of the eighty dollars i put into star citizen
I haven't had any issues. I generally only back small projects that aren't too hard to fulfill (under a year) or ones from companies that have proven themselves with previous KS campaigns.
>What was the worst /tg/ related kickstarter that you've ever backed?
I only back winners.
>What was the best?
Lancer, probably. They delivered what I signed up for, and some extra shit. Yes, they're falling short on some of the stretch goals but I don't back for stretch goals I back for core products and the core product is good.
>What are you backing right now?
Not a damn thing.
>What was the worst /tg/ related kickstarter that you've ever backed?
Darkest Dungeon, mostly due to all the delays, drama and price increases along the way. Will be my last KS boardgame ever.
That the one where they are charging more money to finish the project after making millions?
The extra money is supposedly for shipping costs.
I wanted to like it
Thr Darkest Dungeon kickstarter by mythic games just sent an update saying that if you want the game you backed you have to pay them more to cover shipping, or else they'll leave the box in China until they can sell it on their website. This is after raising the shipping prices once already.
>or else they'll leave the box in China until they can sell it on their website
That's not true you lying sack of shit. They have promised multiple times they will not sell the KS copies of backers. The situation is that shipping will occur in batches every two weeks based on who payed the extra costs. If you don't pay they store it until either it becomes financially viable to ship or you decide to pay after all. They are unable to give a timeline for those who do not/refuse to pay though. Yeah fricking sucks but it's hardly the first company to be in this situation.
They should probably nut up and ship it at cost.
kek, people will be painting recasts before that ships. never pay chink scammers upfront.
Blacklist Miniatures: Fantasy Series 1.
My minis are a year and a half overdue and won't move till the entire US finishes because their shipping company won't allow them credit anymore.
Oh lovely, the frickers didn't even bother to email me about it.
>He believed Blacklist's bullshit buck passing onto QML
They took the money from all 3 kickstarters and we'll never see any miniatures.
>He believed Blacklist's bullshit buck passing onto QML
Oh no, Blacklist are definitely the frickers in all this, QML are just running a business, no money no work.
I hope the bankruptcy filing is rejected and the creditors get to tear the company apart and rabid fans drown that scumbucket Lin in a septic tank.
I've back two, only one was /tg/ related. That is Judgement: Eternal Champions. I've always really loved Creature Caster, and have a few of their models already, so I jumped in when they finally paired up with an actual game and had a reason to expand their line. It's been about a year, and they seem on track to ship in September. I order the resin set, and two of the faction sets. All told, still pretty expensive, but I actually wanted to support them.
The other was the remaster for W101, which paid off in spades. There was a delay in that, so they gave everyone free Steam keys. I own that game three times now.
>I've always really loved Creature Caster
the frick is the matter with you?
I have gotten multiple Reaper Bones kickstarters
I have some regrets.
i backed that Trench Crusade kickstarter 2 days back, thinking it had 20 hours left, woke up to check it this morning and got a suprise 2 extra minis in the deal apparently.
i thought i was backing a nearly finished project that was just short of its goal, not a first day project that was already overfunded.
im excited for the trench pilgrim.
I haven't backed many, and I've never had a bad experience with them. I backed Patrick Stuart's latest one and it's run into some difficulties, but I love that man and would wait a thousand years for him so it's all good if there's a delay.
Just put some money into this in case anyone here plays blubbo:
>https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/charlievictor/thick-skull-fantasy-football-carry-cases/
Worst was prodos AVP. They straight up weren't going to deliver anything. By luck and a lot of research i was able to get in touch with someone that got it delivered to me. Never bothered to check if it had everything.
Taught me a lesson to never back anything from poles
Another one which i wont name, was run by a complete butthole who delivered roughly half and then had no intention of delivering the rest of the kickstarter, just pocketing the cash. I had to play dirty to get my money back.
Besides that everyone i ever backed was great besides mantic, frick mantic.
I haven't backed any Kickstarters and won't. When the products are finished I buy them. There's also a ridiculous amount of woke sjw rpg garbage on there as well and I won't give money to people that want to wreck the hobby for their real-world politics.
I did the old Lamentations of the Flame Princess one that included Gwar tickets. By the time I got everything, Oderus Urungus had OD'ed lol. I had seen them before so no biggie but still.
I guess the worst one is Obsidian Protocol, because they're 3 years overdue. But they actually seem to be still working on it, so maybe it'll come some day. Plus I only backed for 1$ with the intention to add on once they do some kind of backerkit, so I got lucky there.
Aside from that and the Greytide one that just ran I mostly backed /toy/ kickstarters, which were pretty solid.
OLD/NEW
System wasn't playtested and the maths didn't work out. Not just me either. Also shipping was a lot and not part of the upfront. I got the pdfs and didn't bother paying the shipping in the end since there was no way in hell i would ever use that system.
Lost the appetite for KS after that
Super Dungeon Explore Legends
I was having a lot of fun painting the minis from Forgotten King and didn't expect them to make CMON look like a good company.
I haven't been especially burned by any of the kickstarters I've backed, but then there's not a lot that I've backed. Every Battletech kickstarter to date, plus Shadowrun Hong Kong, Those all panned out. The worst thing to happen was that the 2014 Battletech LAM kickstarter was overpriced because nobody told them they're not supposed to charge more than the final product, but everything came as ordered. Other than that some of the additional content for the Clan Invasion kickstarter, like the pilot cards and the faction dice were badly made, but otherwise I had no horror stories like people that backed the Robotech Tactics kickstarter.
I am actually making a Tabletop Wargame and am gonna try and launch on Kickstarter in a few months. Anything in particular I should consider when launching something like this? I have an Insta and a Discord for it, but I need more followers tbh. When you were looking for something like this, where did you look? Where should I advertise to get more people interested? What are the types of things you guys wanna see, etc.? I have playtested the shit out of the game, and its a lot of fun and reasonably balanced; I just need to get more people interested and i'm not sure where to go.
Worst was Dungeon Dice. I was $300 in for a whole bunch of upgrades and duplicates, a couple people in the comments warned about GB at the time but I didn't listen and didn't know any better, and they all turned out to be absolutely correct about the shitheels cannibalizing independent developers.