>released 1994
>still king of first person combat
>slow, deliberate pacing of attacks
>swings require precise timing and positioning
>movement is mandatory, and good movement is rewarded
>necessity to gauge each enemy’s patterns
All of these things work together to create an incredibly immersive and fulfilling first person experience that has yet to be topped to this day.
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Haters will say its fake
It was a very shallow and boring game compared to Ultima underworld.
>click
>click
>step forward
>click
wow this combat has so depth
would you rather roll?
Do you mean a dice roll, or a dodge roll?
Because neither.
I was about to say this.
I like KF but let's not pretend the combat is more than
>circle strafe behind
>Alternate attack and spells to stunlock enemies
There's some variation for optimal tactics among different enemies but OP's post seem a tad oversold
OP is from the clickbait YouTube generation.
yep
>yep
go back to plebbit, homosexual. what are you gonna updoot him too?
Compared to the
>stand in front of enemy
>mash attack until dead
combat of every other first person rpg, I’d say it was and is breddy gud. Even “modern” first person rpgs like skyrim have less depth to their combat than KF.
Tbqtbh the only first person sword games I can think of with better combat are Chivalry/Mordhau.
The only thing Arena did well was write lore.
And Kings Field did nothing well. It fricking sucks
If you need more you should go back to Ganker
Notice they always refuse to elaborate on the gameplay of their “better” rpg/dungeon crawlers?
It’s because they know they’re click simulators. There literally is no first person rpg with better combat than kings field.
homie, you just described every first person dungeon crawler
let me guess. You need more?
Agreed. I started playing KF1 because of the last thread and it was hands down the most satisfying gaming experience I’ve had in years.
I’m currently playing through KF2 and while still decent, I’m not enjoying it anywhere near as much as I did the first. I’ve just hit level 26 and am at the part where you fight the guy Nola was looking for. He’s kicking my ass though, so I think I’ll go explore this massive castle(?) some more.
I honestly don’t remember how I got here and don’t wanna gate out, I think I fell through a floor somewhere lol.
Yeah 1 is primo
2 has a very forgotten, cobwebby feel to it, lots of strange, lopsided, jagged twists and turns and holes to fall into. Sad old people, schizo mystics, pining women, lonely children
Giant squids, Knight snails
I think 2 and majoras mask both have this amazing "still water / emotional dread" thing going on
>I think 2 and majoras mask both have this amazing "still birth / emotional dread" thing going on
FTFY
My strat for beating him was to just get in melee range and tank his attacks, they hurt but if you try to fight him at range his magic hurts a lot more
Yep, I was greeted with a nice nuke to the face and went right down lol. Thanks for the advice, I’ll head back and try again once I’ve sufficiently explored. It feels like I’m closing in on the end and want to be thorough.
These are great ways of putting it and honestly made me appreciate it a little more. The towns really do have a dreary atmosphere to them.
well, they did say he was making demons.
side note: am dangerously low on resources after fully exploring this place. may have to gate out and trek back in. boo.
also my health is steadily draining, but my status is “good” and my gear
should be safe as well, unless I missed something. is it just the area i’m in?
This fricking dragon is shooting lasers and dropping nukes on me lmao. This gon be a tough one.
Oh wait, I still have the dark crystal. I should probably go give it to that dude.
Guyra is slain.
Seathe is gone.
The sun is back.
Melanat is saved.
The hero returns to Verdite.
to be continued............. in KINO FIELD 3
which is a major drop in quality. From Soft really suck ass at making sequels. the first game in a series is always high on creativity, originality and soul. then each sequel starts to lose the original spirit and becomes targeted towards casuals
My first impression of KF3 isn’t bad so far compared to KF2. I enjoyed starting on the beach in 2, but something about the rest just felt off to me. I think a big part of it was how much time you spend in caves compared to the typical dungeons/castles. KF1 had a few cave sections, but KF2 was basically one giant cave with a few hallways in it. It didn’t feel very “medieval” imo.
We’ll see how my opinion of KF3 changes as I progress, but so far I’m enjoying the atmosphere npc dialogue.
My one complain is that most of my weapon swings don’t have any feedback like they did in KF1 and 2, where the enemies would grunt and reel back. The sword just kinda slices through, so it’s tough to tell if I’m actually hitting or not.
Also: I start with a weapon that scales with me? The fricks this shit? Are regular weapons like Short Sword even worth using?
>my weapon swings don’t have any feedback
nvm I’m just moronic. they flash red when hit.
the excellector is an unusual weapon that might throw first timers off. it doesn't scale, it evolves after you obtain certain amounts of exp, and you don't need to have it equipped. regular weapons are absolutely worth using, they actually begin to outclass it not too long after you start the game. but eventually it will evolve into its stage 2 form and outclass everything you'll have at that time, then it eventually drops off again and once again evolves to stage 3, which is its final form.
Ahh, that makes sense. I had assumed you’d need it equipped. Thanks anon.
I was a little worried I’d be using it for the entire game lol.
I've heard people say KF3 is a step down, I beat all four games and I really like KF3 but I still think KF2 is really something special and kind of the standout in the series, KF4 is definitely the best entry for modern gamers to try but idk if I could put it above KF2
This game fricking sucks. I’d rather play Arena
I beat kf 2 (Japan) it was ok. The combat sucks though. Kino atmosphere
at some point in time, (like many things on vr) this fricking game became a god damned meme. like did some butthole make a youtube video about the game and then you all found out about its existence and now worship it as some, "hidden gem". These threads are a fricking waste. The game is decent, I appreciate it... but its not some fricking amazing groundbreaking masterpiece. It doesnt suck, but its not amazing either. I swear these are just bait threads. And I guess it worked on me too.
I mean, I wouldn’t say it’s a “hidden gem”. It was always fairly popular. It didn’t get 4 games, 2 half games, and 2 spin offs because it wasn’t popular.
As far as it not being ground breaking goes, I guess we can disagree on that one. At the time first person RPGs were just -
>stand in front of enemy
>spam attack
>tank hits
>heal up afterwards
KF might not be quite as strategic as OP described, but it’s certainly far more in depth combat-wise than other any first person RPG at the time.
Tbh, From always liked to release additional RPG shovelware if the first title in the series was kinda successful. Only the first King's Field is worthy of note, the rest is typical From shovelware - a mix of previously unreleased content, reused assets and corner cutting to make the games as cheap as possible, while keeping the gameplay. Even years later, they did a very similar thing with Dark Souls.
dark souls birthed a horde of fromsoft nuthangers who pretended to have played these shitty games back when and always liked them. snowballed form there.
Ancient City is the best of course.
I played these shitty games back then and always liked them.
I played Dark Souls last year and hated it.
>I played Dark Souls last year and hated it.
Wow such a hot take anon...
So hot you got burnt and had to make an asshurt reply?
You sound mad
It is a bait thread. OP is pretending to be a moronic zoomer to bait the actual moronic zoomer who assumes that everyone is like them (that everyone, on /vr/ of all places, only play and like this game because of dark souls) and want to pretend like they're hardcore gamers because they shit on this game.
Literally the first mentions of this game on this board are from people who played Dark Souls and were asking it KF was Dark Souls if he PSX.
>Literally
First of all, you’re gay.
Secondly, who cares what the reason for others getting into retro games is? Anyone that appreciates retro games is cool in my book.
Shut the frick up zoomie
>zoomie
I’m not the one saying “literally” like some 15 year old girl.
Stop LARPing as a boomer. We all know you’re a millennial (who are worse than zoomers btw).
Wow almost as if this board was made in 2013
Also who gives a shit? Video games are meant to be played. Only a poser would avoid playing a game if it's old.
I'm thirty-fricking-two
The hype up the Black Knight but then you never get to see him, because he's already dead and so is your father.
What's up with all the King's Feild threads lately?
threads like this prove that it isn't the quality of the games that matter, it's whether it's made by FromSlopware
we need to convince Fromhomosexuals that some old janky empty game was actually made by FromSlopware, I bet it would immediately be described as deliberate and atmospheric
Sadly, this is true. King's Field would be considered some old, janky, amateurish attempt at a dark n edgy RPG. But, since it was made by From, some YouTuber made a video about it and now you have literal children trying to act as if they've discovered a hidden gem. In reality, it's coal darker than one found in Carboniferous sediments.
Str gives you faster swing times as you level it up so powerful weapons aren't always the best to use depending on your str stat, it'll be subtoptimal in speed.
Why do people shill this jap jank when Elvira 2 exists?
Post gameplay
Real gamers can see the quality
more like King's Failed (game)
Why the frick don't the living, non-undead NPCs in King's Field 1-2 have any eyes or mouths!?
Anyone has tried playing KF II (III JP) using DKWDRV with a PS2 slim?
Shadow Tower mogs it
Ignore the hating morons. Last thread 3 people started KF1 for the first time and loved it.
I'm currently in KF2 and holy shit this is easily a top 5 franchise for me
comfy
Nice anon, I was one of those that was playing KF1 last thread. How far into 2 are you now?
I was actually being a dumbass and tried exploring the big mine and what appears to have been a castle for like, 4 days intil I finally found the terminte's nest. I have no idea how I missed it. Now I have 15 flasks and the gold fountain lmfao
For someone considering playing for the first time, what’s with the different game numbers for Japan and US?
The first KF didn't get released to the west so they just called 2 the first one and 3 the second one. I think most people just use the japanese numbers these days.
To add to this, there’s an English rom for the first game online, so you can still start with 1 (and you should, it’s my personal favorite).
I think 2 sucks and 3 is my favourite. Best levels, best story, better gameplay than 1 and 2 with enemy design and enemy placement that actually makes you think and react in different ways
Is it cheating if I play with the mouse injector? Those old camera controls are too much for me.
yes it is cheating. you're breaking the game by being able to turn way faster than you're supposed to. the games aren't that hard to begin with and being able to turn at the speed of a mouse's movement completely fricks it over.
i like them all. 3 might be my least favorite to play but i still think it's really good. and it has the best story too. the shadow towers are pretty sweet too. i even like eternal ring though i acknowledge it is a piece of shit and it is probably like that because they had to meet the PS2 launch deadline.
yes but the games are so easy in terms of action it doesn't matter
After 4 days of no progress, I stopped being a moron and found the termites nest last night lmfao. Now I have 15 flasks and the gold fountain. That explains why I was getting my shit stomped in the big cave.
kings field is fricking BAD
homie, you moronic, that shit was fricking trounced by Hexen 1 year later.
Better action, visuals,
worse adventure, music
I like king's field but the music is terrible madness-inducing 10 second loops
What
The only area I can think of this being the case is Floor 4 of KF1.
First one was pretty shitty tbh. And damn it was slow!
But second is really a great game. Almost every aspect of modern souls games was founded by it. It still plays good and fun.
Third one was utter shit, worse than the first. Damn it was boring to the core.
Forth is ok but not as great as second.
Hmm that's pretty close to the general shape of my opinion but I still think 1 is hardcore and 4 is sophisticated. 3 really does lack impact
can confirm i am a poser. i did not play these games until a couple of years ago. but i do love them.
Anyone fricked about with the Sword of Moonlight games? I even tried installing the maker but I couldn't get it to run properly.
i messed with the maker and played the KF1 "remake" that comes with it(the remake sucks by the way.) you seem to already know the experience somewhat, it runs terribly on modern hardware. some people can't get it working at all. if it wasn't such a b***h to run on top of the maker being kind of unintuitive, i'd actually be interested in doing a project but i don't have the patience for it. i made some little set pieces i think are kind of cool though.
The enemies look comically bad in that version
absolutely soulless. the funny thing is all the enemies that appear in kf1 have a radically different design but the maker has data for some enemies that are from kf2, 3, and even shadow tower and their designs are 1-1 direct transitions from the originals just with more polygons. it kind of makes me wonder if they botched the kf1 enemies intentionally lmao.
Interesting. there has to be a technical reason behind it, possibly the KF1 models used another format which wasn't compatible
Also afaik this was being made at the same time as Gaiden so they probably didn't have a huge team behind it
oh and i'll give an example of one of the kf2 enemies. i wish i took more pictures but i only got this one since earth elementals are my favorite enemy from kf2.
>earth elementals are my favorite enemy from kf2.
Same here. They’re such a fun design, fun to fight, and man do they wreck you when you stumble upon their cave for the first time lol. They’re like a moronic Barney that can one shot you.
Yeah I thought it would be fun to throw together something basic with the maker but all the usual dgvoodoo shit that I'm used to dealing with didn't work with it. The only time I've ran into a similar issue was with Interstate '76 only working with a very specific version of dgvoodoo on my system and I couldn't be bothered to go through a bunch of versions to see if maybe that's the case with SoM.
Would be cool if someone worked to export the assets to be usable in Unity or something to make it possible to do it in a more modern engine.
there is some guy trying to modernize the maker's engine but he is a complete schizo (for real, he actually has schizophrenia apparently) and has been working on it for 10+ years. so i don't expect anything to come out of it.
Somehow that doesn't even surprise me.
Hoping someone will go through the trouble of exporting them all into .fbx at some point and share it.
The way they talk about it their disorder, I actually feel bad for them.
i've messed around with kf1 for a few minutes at a time before, usually getting absolutely wrecked by snakes or skeletons, but only last night did i really get into it. once you get a few levels and at least a knight sword the combat gets so much easier and you can just focus on exploring and that great tension of "just gotta find the next save point".
Yep, that’s exactly how it went for me, and seemingly everyone else that actually sticks with it long enough to learn. Enjoy the game, it’s a pretty short one so don’t be afraid to take your time exploring and humping every wall.
Nice anon, looks like you’re making good progress. What equipment you using?
i couldn't tell you, that's a screenshot from a playthrough from 3 years ago
they cute
I like it but it really is just worse Ultima Underworld
combat is more challenging I guess, UU was really easy
Such a dumb thing to keep repeating. The similarities are entirely superficial
cute...
I didn't know you could bring him back? I thought her father was the dead guy I found with a pendant
yeah its the same guy. a statue of seath can bring him back to life iirc.
You were correct! Eventually an NPC will tell you how to revive him.
Yeah, that does tend to be how it goes around here. They’re always the first ones into the KF threads but tend to shut up pretty quickly. Seems like more anons than not are trying and enjoying the games these past few threads, which is nice. More people to talk about the games with.
>like a game that a company makes so you try some of their other games including older ones
>whoa I really like this as well!
>gays on /vr/ get pissy over this cause they can't jerk off how super special they are for liking it first anymore because no one cares
people always love it when they like something before it was cool (even if sometimes they're liars.) it just can't be helped. just take it in stride. they're allowed to be a little smug though, they probably got to buy these games for a reasonable price before all these highwaymen bandits took over the resellers market.
What's even weirder is how they insist that we are pretending like we were "always a fan" when damn near every last one of us are openly talking about how our first playthroughs were recent. Absolute fricking brain-rot.
Don't forget, the people getting pissy are newbies. We've had KF threads for as long as this board has been up and nobody ever gave a shit. In the early days of /vr/, the board culture was all about encouraging people to play games.
Why no faces on the living NPCS in King's Field 1 and 2!?
It's kinda cool idk
1 I can understand and look over, but what were they SMOKING that ended up keeping that for 2?
It’s a cool and unique style. Personally, the art style was a big reason I was drawn to the game originally.
Early 3D faces looked like trash anyway. Just look at FF7.
FF7 just has eye decals, and they look good...
But they look cartoony, which fits however may not have fit well in kings field. Maybe something more like mgs but that straddles the line too as possibly too realistic in its artistry. It is a sound choice to keep the faces blank.
some kind of stylistic choice they chose due to the limitations of the ps1 i guess.
I really like it, it gives those game a dream-like mystery.
Such a feature is only good in KF. It looked stupid in Granstream Saga.
My playthroughs of KF were recent but I've never played any dark souls, however I've been a fan of Echo Night for 15+ years
with the recent disastrous release of the Elden Rang DLC, I hope more people will be interested in trying out King's Field
I didn’t even know it released. What are people not liking about it?
I only played ER on launch. I didn’t hate it, but also didn’t enjoy it enough to finish it.
people are just whining it's too hard. i'm whining because EAC makes playing online impossible ever since the DLC dropped