>learn to code
>every game starts to just look like a mechanical script playing out
Never look behind the curtain, bros.
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>learn to code
>every game starts to just look like a mechanical script playing out
Never look behind the curtain, bros.
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>learn to model
>every environment is a fake hollow paper mache hanging in invisible wires
Damn that actually sounds kinda worse
im a modeler and I enjoy more the quality and techniques with the models im presented within a game. i can also tell shitty aproaches to some results, but never ruining experience.
it really does kill the magic when you first use noclip in something like gmod and find out there's no magical world beyond the invisible wall
sometimes there is when the mapmakers hide secrets
a paragon of the competency crisis
The OPs programming example is dumb but this one is kinda real.
Turned out to be the opposite for me.
Once i got knee deep into 3D - i started appreciating good models, texturing, shading, and ESPECIALLY animation way more, even outside video games. It even made some shit way more bearable (like that one cartoon everyone was spamming recently) because i can see that the animators have actually tried to make, at the very least, good eyecandy.
It also made me despise realism more though. Laziest fricking shit on the planet.
It just made me appreciate everything more
Pain
that thing took 3 months to finish. and their still fleshing out the details for 3d printing
I respect their dedication makes me want to have a go at it myself but lack a printer
why he so grumpy
it makes me want to make something like this. but its a skillset that must be learned and using blender for sculpting is a pain
no male organ to greet it
pure sexo
>he doesn't even voxels
there's your problem
too true, if you're a perfectionist moron like me you'll also start to nitpick every detail of the games you're playing.
we must RETVRN to brush-based geometry, even a noob like me could see the hand that created it but it didn't matter because the environment felt solid
genuine question, how moronic are you?
That comment seems unnecessarily mean. An apology is in order here.
You made a moronic thread so I questioned the validity and efficacy of your brain. ANSWER NOW
Suck my wiener you enormous homosexual of Britain.
Based. Anons think it's cool and funny to be rude out of nowhere and it's not, it's degenerate and unbecoming
How moronic are you? What anon is talking about is a very common phenomenon.
yeah, being moronic is a common thing nowadays
homosexual
>learn biology
>every interaction I only think about how all humans are just a bunch of neurons
This has to be the real shit, being just chemicals is going full nihilist
That's the very thing that prevented me from learning
>learn to code
>am now impressed by every little thing in games I used to love
>appreciate them more
This. Especially when you consider that they used to work in way worse conditions with primitive tools, slow workstations and testing processes, with limited and potentially poorly translated hardware manuals, with rapid deadlines all the same. How they got anything done is a miracle, those guys were arcane wizards.
>How they got anything done is a miracle, those guys were arcane wizards.
Some of it's intuition and understanding the basics, but a huge part of success back then was being able to communicate with manufacturers and other developers.
>this bug keeps fricking shit up
>*call middleware dev*
>hi, this bug keeps appearing wat do?
>oh that shouldn't be happening, I'll get you a patch tomorrow
>*next day*
>*emailed patch fixes bug*
Amazing how "cooperation" was the real arcane sorcery of yesteryear. Nobody fricking talks to each other anymore.
Different time and different attitude in the industry. I imagine Japanese studios were much more strict and salaryman esq. However, the devs you’re talking about mostly operated out of a crappy rental property and were among their friends. It’s pretty much a nonstop lan party with your bros, except you’re playing “make a game”. In today’s industry, it’s very sterile and 9-5ish. The big studios try to emulate that older style by forcing open office space and making people who have nothing in common pretend to be friends.
>dead souls who don't realize they are now seeing beyond the art
What's your favorite movie FRANCHISE
Wow, what a CHARACTER ARC
The FANDOM will be the judge
Confused unaesthetic homosexual
Based take. Even minor stuff, like the momentum in the first Mario Bros, is impressive even more so considering it the time and hardware it was made in.
this, i always end up thinking how cool it had to be to develop the portals in valve's game but im too lazy to search for it
Once you learn ASM, you will be astounded any game made in the 80s functioned at all.
no way, you're telling me video games don't just run on magic? How will I ever enjoy them again
>learn to hatespeech
>every dumbass OP thread looks batshit crazy frickery
I've been abusing npc and interaction scripts ever since I was kid. You don't need to learn how to code to understand how games work moron.
>script = dialogue
>moron
= dialogue
weird that I didn't see that in my post huh you subhuman frick
>inference = plausible deniability
Oh, I "inferred" it by talking about "interaction" is that it? so "interaction" can only mean "dialogue" to you is that it lil bro?
You are a Black person. Post hands.
>learn to code
>realize almost everything in our lives is a script
>learn to code
>stop playing goyslop because it's all obviously just scripted crap for a story
>start playing sims and virtual toys because their systems are like black magic
There are some curtains you may never reach.
>become scientist
>realize everything is just atoms and you will literally never touch your atoms to a woman's atoms
>shoot lead atoms into my neuron atoms
>unlock the secrets of the universe
>every human being starts to look like puppets on a string
>receive anal sex
>whenever I fart I poopoo my pants a little
>learn to code
>even the most basic b***h jrpg becomes a thousand times more interesting
incredible shit like dq3 was written in assembly
>pretend to learn to code
>get a good programming job while actually being less competent than a pajeet
>can still enjoy vidya just fine, sometimes during work
i don't believe you
>incompetent people profit
You must be in America.
>Be third worlder
>Thanks to Ganker I speak English better than the average Hispanic (even those gays from cushy schools or that have actually been on other countries)
>Know next to nothing about coding
>Get comfy home office job where I do next to nothing
You ever gooned during office hours, high as frick, and wondered what the frick is up with your life?
>You ever gooned during office hours
All the time. God bless WFH
And LSD is how you glitch it
it's like debug mode for life, in a good and bad way
ideally, you'd only start making games after you stop playing them
Embrace the perspective and start playing Factorio
>get education in codehomosexualry
>work in codehomosexualry
>some games make be really want to see their code base because the developers clearly knew what they were doing
No greater feeling when it comes to games, I am particularly interested in Doom Eternal's smooth movement and mouse movement and most of WoW's functionality.
>most of WoW's functionality.
Literally just Everquest's systems with more crap added, and there should be some ancient dev mag articles about it (and MUDs / MMOs in general) floating around.
>clearly knew what they were doing
>WoW
You mean the game where adding 4 slots to the default bag broke the game in a 1000 different ways?
i always saw that kind of thing in classic konami and treasure games
there's some numerical analysis wiz in gunstar heroes
>learn to cook
>never eat again
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>Learn
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Wait until you start pondering the mysteries of real life - there truly is no coming back
You get used to it. I don't even see the code anymore
>me at my programming job staying in the break room all day every day
>find out voice actors are obnoxious c**trags
dunning kruger
>learn how we perceive brown
No.. This cannot be..
>Learn to data mine
>Lost the enjoyment and mystery from surprise and secrets of games that was hidden by the game devs
>Learn to code
>You start to see only patterns and logic of how the game works, you only see optimization of this best possible build
>Found out about the internet
>No more playground myths in games of whether they are true or not
>Found out about social media
>No more special genuine interaction from other players in MMO or other games with a social mechanic, everybody is in their own discord
>Found out about let's plays
>No more about genuine players who actually played the game
>Found out about streamers and e-celebs
>No more vidya game discussions, only drama
It's more than just the curtain OP.
>you only see optimization
Not anymore
>It's more than just the curtain
but aren't those all just other curtains you listed? is there something beyond ALL the curtains?
The funniest part is when game devs take steps to counter any of this they’re accused of being regressive and inaccessible
Really? Any examples? I sometimes wonder how a mmorpg could combat datamining and open infosharing by personalizing presented language, thus forcing the use of in-game systems for communication.
>Found out about streamers
it's weird how twitch has played a part in killing organic mmo communities. mmos have become somewhat like streamer lounges. for many, if they're not in some streamers twitch chat they're in a discord. I wouldn't be surprised to see more twitch integrated features in a few more years since even some mmo developers pay more attention to twitch streamers instead of the actual playerbase. what a bizarre dynamic we have on our hands.
The magic of the internet died in 2005. There's no more mystery when literally everything can be googled in 5 seconds.
>websurfing cryptozoology pages at 3 AM
All is gone
All this. The magic slowly faded. I only enjoy goofy online multiplayer games now in short bursts.
>Learn to animate
>Completely lose interest in anime and realize it's the west that produced and innovate everything
God I can't keep watching things burst into cubes, turn into a squiggly mess, turn the camera into a roller coaster or see the poorly animated 3D characters Japanese animators use to rotoscope doing animation backwards to make it look 2D drawn. I used to love Gundam but Hathaway just made me feel repulsed and lose faith after Dragonball Super normalized that franchise into not even drawing anymore with that movie sequel.
I am never going to learn to play a musical instrument or pursue music even though I'm interested in it so much. I don't want to understand how bad things are or see the lack of creativity.
>I don't want to understand how bad things are or see the lack of creativity.
it seems like there would be a term for crossing this kind of threshold and i'm curious of what it might be, where deep understanding of the creative process causes you to totally lose feeling and immersion and just see the cold product.
Ignorance is bliss.
your gonna love how animators got away with it before 3d
you're probably the dumbest laziest homosexual in your class, shut the frick up
Feeling good on a Sunday morning, eh?
>learn to paint
>every painting starts to look like brush strokes
Bros...
>play Zelda as a kid
>get to the bit where you pull out the master sword
>get this warning
>actually rush towards sanctuary in a straight line as fast as possible
Wish I could still get immersed like that.
Now I'd just frick around doing side shit while not being in a particular hurry, unless there's an actual countdown on the screen.
That could still happen. I played quite a few games where there's a hidden timer before enemy mobs start surrounding you, even back then.
If anything I wish modern games did that more(although made it winnable).
That upsets you? I think it's cool as Hell. I love seeing the processes of things as much as the end-product. It's so fun seeing some weird or clever effect in a game and trying to figure out how they did it. In Fallout 3's Point Lookout DLC, they wanted a big manor you could see across the entire map and at the time they just didn't have the time or resources to make it feasibly work since this was a skeleton crew with not even six months' time, so they had to improvise. The only thing that could be seen over that distance that wasn't a LOD model that didn't break the game in half was an explosion animation for if you chose to nuke Megaton, so they just ported over that animation, replaced Megaton with the manor, and kept it at frame 1 of the animation. This also motivated them to have one of the major events of the DLC being the manor exploding. It's super clever.
Gnarly
>Learn to code
>Grow a newfound inhuman hatred for devs whining on social media that they couldn't fix thing X because it's too difficult when in reality fixing X is so trivial that it could be trusted to an intern.
>Additionally, obtain even stronger hatred for unruly software that wants to do its own thing without my clear say-so.
>learn to sew
>every bunch of fabric looks like clothes now
>learn to sew
>borrow a plushie
>cut open plushies by the seams
>flatten out the patterns
>copy patterns
>make copies of plushie
>opposite concept
morons
>learn to cook
>every meal just looks like a bunch of ingredients
this, the magic is gone. No wonder I barely play them anymore
>Learn how to poop.
>Everything starts looking like shit components.
This happened to me. That was the day when I decided I'm never learning anything ever again.
Alternatively those scripts inspire you even further, the complexity of such interactions, even more when you look further back and see what was made frol scratch by some random dudes.
>learn to read
>every book just looks like a bunch of text
Frick your thread. How caked in mud does it take to produce OP's pic?
>grow up and realize that 99.9% of the human population is braindead
>treat everyone i come across like a soulless animal
It gets better vros
I need to do this. I've suppressed this feeling for too long. Any tips?
Treat your toys well, don't be a Black person.
>learn to play an instrument
>can appreciate the beauty of music even more now, see the thought author had put even in simpler melodies
Where do you even start learning to code?
>learn to draw
>every drawing is just the blending of colors
learning programming but never mastering it because I'm a brainlet lets me impressed at certain things in vidya.
Carmack's rendering algorithms in the 90s? Fricking magic. Havok physics? Black fricking magic.
It also made me realize what people find impressive tech wise is actually not impressive at all. Like people keep praising half life for having NPCs that can "smell" objects. It's really barebones and it's like a basic sound propagation algorithm
Smart enough to code monkey, yet not smart enough to suspend disbelief when engaging in fiction, you hate to see it. A similar fate to physicists and other STEM-tards who can't tolerate science fiction because "that would never work!!!!" Total skill issue.
>not smart enough to suspend disbelief
Pretty sure that's the opposite of how it actually works.
thought you might appreciate it
>read book
>OH MY GOOD THE HUMAN LANGUAGE CAN BE REDUCED TO THESE MERE SCRIBBLES?? I'M GOING INSANE WITH ENNUI
Learning the magic behind it only makes it better.
>if
>else if
>else if
>else if
>else if
>else if
>if "seethe"
>return "cope"
>else if "cope"
>return "dilate
>else if "dilate
>return "seethe
This should be a switch block. Please revise and resubmit to code review
>learn to draw boobies
>have MORE of an appreciation for boobies
Can't stop winning.
>learn to draw boobies
>now I can immediatly know if a woman has flacid breasts
>Browse pol by accident
>Learn how video games/movies/music are all tools used by the elite to keep the cattle satiated and keep them from learning the truth about how the World really works
>Nothing is enjoyable anymore
>Envy normies who are still happy because they haven't cracked the Matrix yet
>TFW have tried
>Fail every time
Help
>go on /x/
>contact aliens
>every singe sci-fi is now retrofuturism
>like games
>It's magic
>Become a tech artist
>Know every single trick
>Suddenly don't care about graphics or tech anymore
>Enjoy games for the gameplay and visually for the artstyle
It's looking good vros
>don't enjoy media anymore
>demystify it by learning about its creation, hoping I'll find joy in creation
>everything is now fake homosexual shit
You just need to go back
>eyes gone to shit
>can't appreciate visuals anymore
>fried ADHD brain
>can't slow down and appreciate much of anything in an indulgent manner
I miss being enchanted by literally anything for hours on end.
It gets even worse when you realize you’re just jumping through the hoops someone else designed for you.
>Learn how to use bootstrap and build a few websites
>Every website suddenly looks the same
That would be like saying you cannot enjoy books anymore because deep down you know some dude just made it all up in his head.
That being said i actually cannot play games like Factorio anymore. Once you learn to code playing games like that feels like such a massive waste of time, you are essentially doing the same thing but instead of getting your own little project going you just create "research bottles" or whatever they are called. Really ruined that game for me and I see it as a complete waste of time now.
ive worked in film and it killed any enjoyment i had for it, i watch 1 short tv series or 3 films at most every year
i can always watch older work, but the veil has been lifted and i know what goes on there
vidya also stops being enjoyable when you cant afford escapism anymore and you realize theres a point where they just steal time of your life with shit sidequests or souless procedural content
there are still fascinating games out there, especially when devs give a look behind the curtains and explain their thought processes.
if you are interested play factorio and really scale up your base until your CPU can't keep up. then read their devblogs.
I don't know how to code and I already see that. Not just with video games, but with movies and books, too. I'm constantly thinking about the why and how behind each moment. I'm pretty sure it's not a coding thing, it's a having-a-three-digit-IQ thing.
im on vfx and it impresses me how AAA implement that level of detail in games. hogwarts game was a bloated aimless sandbox with useless sidequests and mediocre level design, but i respect the magic effects like smoke, building bridges and stairs, as well as the creatures
its still a disappointing game though, should have been 30 hours instead
>schizo thread
>everything i dont like is schizo