Gamers are moving to Linux now that Windows 10 support is dying and Windows 12 is looking out to be AI OS with paid subscribtion
What is your excuse? Its free as in beer and free as in freedom.
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Gamers are moving to Linux now that Windows 10 support is dying and Windows 12 is looking out to be AI OS with paid subscribtion
What is your excuse? Its free as in beer and free as in freedom.
>linux
er anon thats now chinese spyware. its RIP
thanks for the warning, NSA-anon
I will definitely be uninstalling linux and installing Windows 12 tonight!
I take it you don't read the news, anon. Linux had a frickin huge backdoor that was just found a couple days ago (funnily enough by a Microsoft worker)
https://www.nextgov.com/cybersecurity/2024/04/linux-backdoor-was-long-con-possibly-nation-state-support-experts-say/395511/
Clearly you don't, since it's
>Already been fixed
>Only applied to people using bleeding edge
>ALSO didn't apply to people using arch because of how arch was set up
Good morning sir
Good morning xir
Is this image going to just ignore that Windows is higher in India than in US.
Are you just gonna ignore that troonix is used 4.4x more in India than in the US?
ya and?
You're a linjeet.
i was born and raised in america and have an english lineage
You can stop the kang larp, jeet.
no one is LARPing you are just coping that windows has fallen to total shit and is likely not coming back
Yeah it's shit, just like troonix.
no you are mistaken linux s good
windows is a bloated mess that desperately needs a publicly available "lite" version
>no you are mistaken linux s good
Linux is trash and you should calm down before typing, Anglo-saxonjeet.
>windows is a bloated mess
You just described every mainstream distro. They're all the same shit, but the package managers are different
the only mainstream distro that comes close to the bloat of windows is fedora and that's not even close
Every mainstream distro uses a convoluted audio system, and they all use a convoluted, non-kiss system managment suite of programs.
>Arch
Suffers from the same dependency/bloat hell as all the other distros because the standard linux computing experience is a complicated mess in the year of our lord 2024.
>Every mainstream distro uses a convoluted audio system, and they all use a convoluted, non-kiss system managment suite of programs.
and widows comes with such a masive mountain of crap you would have to put effort into making a distro as bloated your convoluted audio system has nothing on all the bloat that came in with windows store
So you're justifying shitty system management, and modern audio systems because windows bad? Typical.
>modern audio systems
is your issue that its convoluted or that its modern?
and if you really have that much of a problem wit systemD then use a distro that does not include it
either way windows is still a much larger mess and will be until things like windows store and one drive is completely ripped out both are nothing but pure bloat that have no reason to exist beyond Microsoft jumping on a trend
>is your issue that its convoluted or that its modern?
Modern and convoluted are interchangeable. It's all garbage either way.
>and if you really have that much of a problem wit systemD
Yes, I have a problem with a shitty suite of programs that 99% of linuxgays use. It's a huge attack vector, and it does too much for it's own good. For example. who the frick asked for another unencrypted ntp, but systemd this time? Also just ignore it is not an argument.
With Linux that is an argument because a massive draw of Linux is the ability to customize it.
It's not when 99% of systems in use are basically all the same.
>he is worried about linux attack vector while using an OS that is all attack vector all the time to an insane degree
>Modern and convoluted are interchangeable
objectively incorrect
It's not when 99% of systems in use are basically all the same.
so use a distro thats not the same why do you find this a hard thing?
>implying
Absolute moron. You're unfortunately not intelligent enough to participate in this conversation. It's not even a fun waste of time.
>Mainstream distros are bloated
Arch
Are you an expert IT Guy?
no
Who is microsoft's CEO?
All this image shows is that jeets are too poor for OS X
japanese are tech illiterate
erogemu and all
Windows has shit load of backdoors in its history
Also only targeted Debian and Fedora
Also only would've targeted servers so its not regular user problem really
Linux had no backdoor xz had a backdoor and the person who made the backdoor contributed to Windows
And his contributions are still there in every Windows 11 machine. Are they going to review the code? Who knows, nobody gives a shit about security on Windows, least of all the people that make it, so probably not.
They didn't revert all of his commits from xz either. Who knows what's inside of that repo when the jannies shoad' it.
so go and look yourself why even use open source software if you wont take advantage of its main fricking point?
>why even use open source software if you wont take advantage of its main fricking point?
No one was paying attention, and the backdoor was present for a month. It was only discovered because a random autist who was fricking with debian noticed slowdowns. That chinky homosexual was a maintainer for way more than just a single month.
so go and audit it yourself or raise a shit fit until its maintainers do i mean the only alternative is using shitty buggy ass bloated windows
>so go and audit it yourself
Even if I wanted to I can't because the jannies shut it down, remember?
i dont know i didnt look into it cause i dont use the utility for anything i just play games and watch youtube on my machine
The shithub jannies shut down the repo as soon as if was found out, so no one could look through the code when the news broke out.
ok so roll back and demand more security out of who is allowed to send code to channels like that
>windows has at least 15 zero day exploits found a month
>Linux has one that never makes it to stable versions
ABANDON SHIP!!!
>Linux had a frickin huge backdoor that was just found a couple days ago
remember eternalblue, rajesh? the exploit that allowed wannacry to spread like a wildfire? that was every windows computer since SMBv1 came out.
>Exploit fixed by a Microsoft employee
>Said Chinese spy works for Microsoft as well
>Chinese spy is a Mossad agent based on his time zone when he works
spy is a Mossad agent based on his time zone when he works
UTC+8 isn't the desert timezone. Are you implying that he's a sayanim?
>based on his time zone when he works
>he might be chink in any western country
>he may work after work/at night/etc
the only thing stopping me from moving over to linux is that 99% of pirated games are .exe and I can't be assed to frick around with wine. as microsoft continues to shit up windows I can see a lot of people moving over so hopefully eventually linux piracy will be easier.
>chinese spyware
this is such a moron take. even if the chinese backdoor thing wasn't a total nothingburger what do you think your own government and google is doing?
Intel processors have a built in backdoor for frick sake. I trust the chinese a hell of a lot more than the homosexuals at microsoft or google.
>the only thing stopping me from moving over to linux is that 99% of pirated games are .exe and I can't be assed to frick around with wine
most pirated games should work with launchers like lutris and heroic out of the box. Some may need DirectX components
maybe I'll try doing a dual boot and see if I can get things to work. I'm going to switch over eventually but I keep putting it off because I'm a lazy moron.
this is an example what I had to when using something like heroic games launcher when I pirated Lies of P with DODI (Fitgirl Repack crashes, thats the biggest problem on piracy. Repacks might not work)
>open game
>wine gives error message about missing c++ runtime
>open winetricks GUI through heroic games launcher game settings
>go to the menu and choose install dlls and components
>pick vcr2019
>install
>launch the game
>complains about DirectX version being wrong
>check wineconfig throgh heroic games launcher settings
>huh thats weird, it says its in Windows XP mode so obviously DX12 isnt gonna work
>Switch to Windows 10 mode
>done
that was the most annoying piracy process I've had so far. Other time was me installing DirectX 9 components, but it still gave me an error message that showed it was DirectX related
You can also check Steam app database to check what Steam installs for the game to work to get hints
Just recognize that you're going to have to learn to trouble shoot and you'll be better off for it.
Also put weird error messages into ChatGPT, it's actually pretty useful at decoding a mess of text.
If you are still on Windows, you aren't a real PC gamers.
People who are still on Windows are the equivalent of console gamers in the 2000s.
watch the incoming cope
This dude adopted Linux because of his Valve Switch -- I mean... "Steam Deck" and then calls everyone else "consoletards"
Not him, but I've been using Linux since I was 12yo, and I haven't been 12 for 15 years already, not all of us are here for the trends, more so when I started using it, it didn't even have a proper sound system, steam, systemd, etc. I still remember how utterly comfy gnome 2 was or buggy kde 4 was.
Either way, if corporations spent the same amount of time they spend porting games to mac who's literally changing architectures every 11 years or just dropping 32bit support altogether, then linux would have literally 20% marketshare or more.
I wonder why anyone ever bothered with mac ports. Even in the 90s Steve Jobs couldn't stand video games.
Honestly, after dropping 32bit support and making like 70% of mac games on steam stop running, they should've taken the clue.
You sound upset
The 2nd half of the 2000s was god awful for pc gaming.
>Less than 5% at its pique.
Such domination! LINUXBROS, WE WOST
The year of the Linux desktop!
>Gamers are moving to Linux now that Windows 10 support is dying and Windows 12 is looking out to be AI OS with paid subscribtion
>What is your excuse?
For what? Using Linux? You already explained it.
Based.
>>Just pick the right distro bro
I did.
>>Just debug your drivers bro
I never did.
>>Just tweak a bunch of settings to fix shit bro
Name two things you imagine I had to fix.
Linux Mint never got xz-utils 5.6, so I am immune to your FUD.
Post specs, real gamer.
>you aren't a real PC gamers.
Good morning, sir!
>real gaymer
Linux is for homos.
say that again
I don't have that in windows 7, you homo.
now try playing DX12 games without a level of tinkering that rivals Linux from Scratch
I don't know what Slop you are playing that you need that.
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/List_of_Direct3D_12_games
Stop reading after the first name, the rest of the list sure is crap too.
Talos Principle 2 is not a bad game. UE5 games are de facto 12 games so anything coming in the future will just not work
That said if the remaining W7 community organizes and begs for W7 support for VK3D support, you might be able to run games for a far reaching future since Vulkan seems to be supported
>Talos Principle 2 is not a bad game.
No company is making new graphics drivers for 7, they won't get new Vulkan extensions that will help with DXVK or VKD3D-Proton. AMD, Intel and Nvidia are only releasing security updates for their current 7 drivers and even then that will come to an end.
sour grapes
The game that immediately stuck out to me was Devil May Cry 5 which has Gold medal on Protondb. Some people seem to even play with default settings. And I bet if you sampled a large number run fine under proton.
What is VKD3D?!
You will never be a real woman.
>We want inclusion!
>Let's put this unremovable icon in a toolbar, that way everyone will be forced to look at it
>Surely people who don't like gays won't just get annoyed and dislike them more as a result
It's like they want people to hate them
They do. You can't grift off of how oppressed you are if no one thinks about you
well put
Im not a trans.
frick, going to disable my wifi on my puter. never going to let it connect to zion.
>What is your excuse? Its free as in beer and free as in freedom.
I might switch when Win10 is genuinely unusable, otherwise it's just not worth the hassle to switch yet.
What distro do you even use for gaming these days? Last install I had was Manjaro back in 2020 but I was using it for work at the time and didn't even try gaming with it.
Distro doesn't matter too much, pick something popular
>What distro do you even use for gaming these days?
anything that has support for desktop usage
my current desktop is probably going to be my last desktop, at this point i dont need more than a steam deck
>Just pick the right distro bro
>Just debug your drivers bro
>Just tweak a bunch of settings to fix shit bro
Or I could use Windows and it just works.
>Just pick the right distro bro
there is no wrong distro
>Just debug your drivers bro
never happened plus Windows has more issues with drivers
>Just tweak a bunch of settings to fix shit bro
if checking a box on Steam is hard for you, you should switch to mobile and consoles
>you should switch to mobile and consoles
Incidentally Valve has SteamOS which you can technically install anything and is more or less tard proof.
Most stuff doesn't work man. If you're trying to play anything that isn't a unity game you're basically boned, or running windows. Basically anything off steam doesn't work at all, and half of those "Linux" games only work on steam OS.
this is flat out wrong
>If you're trying to play anything that isn't a unity game you're basically boned
is Persona 3 Reload unity game?
>Basically anything off steam doesn't work at all, and half of those "Linux" games only work on steam OS.
Genshin Impact works
Yeah I don't play any Chinese games, or any of that sort of game at all. So maybe some really mainstream weeb microtransaction games work.
Even really mainstream stuff like League has you using Wine, and hoping that the latest patch doesn't break something.
Clive Barker's Undying
Akalabeth - World of Doom
Last Rites
Project Warlock
Wrought Flesh
Soulbringer
Countless others of course, just the last ones that wouldn't run properly for me.
>Clive Barker's Undying
I have this in my GOG account and had been planning on playing. I'm going to try running it with Bottles this weekend, and if it just works then I'm going to track you down and find you in real life and physically point and laugh at you in person.
anon I played undying like 4 years ago on my ancient linux install
everything ran flawlessly back then. it'll only be better now
>Clive Barker's Undying
just werks for me
Anon I can play random shit like Era games, Kamidori, Alicesoftshit. If niche H-games can work what can't.
Linux has honestly been getting pretty good. I use it on random devices, but I still have only Windows 11 installed on my desktop PC (which I think is garbage, Windows 7 was the last truly good Windows OS).
I am planning on setting up a dual boot system and then switching to Linux Mint, but I don't know when. I'll buy a second SSD and set everything when I feel like it.
Is here maybe a game dev?
Is anon maybe english speak please? Understand intent cannot.
Sry, I meant is there a game dev present here?
And, are you a game dev or not?
What distro would you guys reccomend? I will obviously also install Steam and Proton.
if you want to avoid command line? Linux Mint
if you might want more up to date system but you might need to frick with command line? Anything Arch based, either pure Arch (more command line) or EndeavourOS
I would suggest you go with Mint
I just want arch without rolling releases that break everything
if you want cutting edge but doesnt want to use arch you go for fedora, you absolute tech illiterate b***h.
Debian = stable
Fedora = cutting edge between debian and arch
Arch = cutting edge
If you have a pimped out pc as I assume you do since you wanna run heavy games on it and 8+ gb of ram, Pop OS.
For all other cases xubuntu or mint.
>Its free as in beer and free as in freedom.
Stopped reading right there.
I built a new PC recently and was fully intending to stick with windows 10, but on a whim I thought frick it and installed 11 instead. Honestly it's barely even any different, took me 2 days to get things set up the way I like
>Gamers are moving to Linux now that Windows 10 support is dying
that's horrible, angry autists on a quest to show off how much they hate the recent new thing that's bad is worst audience possible. the only good reason to switch to linux is when you like linux, otherwise people will just react to superior design choices with anger because it's not the same as in windows
It's not linux, it's the deck
im on linux and do not in ANY WAY miss windows
>What is your excuse?
Same one from last time; performance loss due to running stuff in a compatibility layer and knowing that the only games that run better do so because they're coded like shit and they'd run better on Windows otherwise.
windows has performance loss from how fricking bloated it is
In every day use? Yeah.
In gaming? Not really, because again, games run far, far better on it.
If someone could decipher native .exe compatibility out of the Windows NT/XP leaks and plug it into some Linux distro that'd be great.
Until then, I'll keep using Tiny 11 with Explorer Patcher probably.
>tiny 11
you really trust the tiny11 dev?
Yeah.
I've been using Tiny11 for almost half a year and it works flawlessly.
>Wine is native exe compatibility on Unix operating systems.
Then where does the loss in performance come from?
i wouldn't trust it no one just makes a free windows out of the kindness of their heart
>no one just makes a free windows out of the kindness of their heart
Many do, and they've been for years.
Lite Windows versions are usually championed by people who guts telemetry and other bs from thir Windows installation and share it for the benefit of everyone, or poorgays that gut out """features""" that only bloat the system, including telemetry and such.
I mean, back in the 2005s when I still used XP I awas also using a modified windows too, Windows XP SP3 Black Edition.
Shit was fast and good looking (it had Vista's theme without the crappy shiny glowing effects.)
Nowadays, when/if you don't trust things like Tiny11 you can quickly look up controversies, reviews and such on Youtube too, so.
Huh.
And realistically, when will that sort of stuff be sorted out?
>i wouldn't trust it no one just makes a free windows out of the kindness of their heart
It's that or trusting MS.......either way you are fricked
i just use linux and avoid either
Custom ISOs are a massive security risk but foss debloaters and commercial tools like NTLite are fine.
yes i trust debloaters and that but tiny11 gives me the chills to even consider
>Then where does the loss in performance come from?
Certain things not being optimally implemented yet and translating graphics APIs.
You build the ISO yourself. All the code is open source.
Besides, Tiny11 barely does anything outside of removing a few shortcuts from the start menu.
Those downloading random ass ISO's deserve to be hacked.
Wine is native exe compatibility on Unix operating systems. Would be much quicker to fork it and finish it using leaks than build it again from scratch.
>nshitia
It's the same with AyyyMD. It's not a brand issue, it's an OS issue.
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>far, far better
seems pretty close to me, even with memetracing
Microsoft desperately needs to put out a new Directx that isn't fricking God awful, fix shader compilation stutter already holy shit. That was the one thing that kept gamers around. Of course if they could do that they would instead the more capable series X loses to the PS5 almost every time.
>make hyper zoomed in chart to show only 5% out of the total market share and conveniently leave out windows that has 96%
>look guys linux is doing so well, it went from 3 users to 5
>moron thinks we're trying to trick him into thinking linux is the majority or something, and not just display in a useful graphic the trend in linux users
people of average or above intellect should understand this
incredibly disingenuous, you're trying to pretend you have a community that isn't a dead failure
here's how it looks when you look at the whole market share and not just cherry picking shit to make any low number look like a success
this should put you on perspective on how pathetic linux is performing compared to windows
what is your point? people who use linux dont use it cause its popular they use it cause it suits them better or cause they like to choose what does and does not get installed on their OS
All I'm seeing is that Linux has better legs than Windows.
This chart lacks time-frames so it's useless.
What that chart looks to me like is that Linux is beginning to pick up steam. Once they reach a certain threshold I call the "normoid event horizon", which is to say when it reaches the point of popularity that normie "influencers" begin shilling it, that will lead to normie-tier easy to use Windows UI clone distros and such being developed and once you reach the point that any old non Gankerentleman can get a moron-proof plug and play distro the number will skyrocket as normie influencers shill it as "the next big thing", outrage-baiting contrarian influencers shill it as "its OVER for Microsoft", (for real this time, not clickbait), and insufferable midwits shill it as a way to make them seem like le smart hackerman.
As the popularity grows, if even 1% of those new users are contributing and improving their normie-approved moron proof UI then it will quickly develop into a fully standalone OS that doesn't require any kind of Microshaft Wangblows bloat or spyware.
(That's not to say the moron normie distro won't have it)
Also by "influencers" I mean "insufferable social media homosexuals", just in case it wasn't clear.
Because not every game runs on Linux and that's literally all I care about. Only time I installed Linux was to hack my neighbours WEP key for free Internet for years.
Friendly reminder linux is only free if your time has no value
windows actually works and every single pc game is made specifically for it, also don't have to worry about anyone and their grandma being given access to post their backdoors into official update channels without any security
I'd use Linux if every game worked on it out of the box but yeah I'm not joining the crusade. 2 lazy. Will reap any benefits if it succeeds.
>just works
is why I moved to linux
because windows most definitely is not
>Friendly reminder linux is only free if your time has no value
nu-wintards btfo
>open powershell
>winget install mozilla.firefox
there, it’s fast now too!
It's probably still longer just for the fact that powershell is more clicks away than terminal. But still good for windows users finally getting a package manager.
>Press windows key
>type "Power"
>enter
>Powershell is open
>having to press a key and then an entire word and then another key just to get a command line
that was supposed to prove him wrong???? lol
It might also be a tad slower if you have to run powershell with admin privileges. Because windows doesn't have something like sudo iirc.
now show the version where he launches edge
???
That does show the Windows 11 side launching edge. It takes almost the entire Linux Firefox installation time to open.
why are you acting confused? for the sides to be equivalent, either the windows side has to get firefox from winget in powershell or the arch side has to get microsoft edge off of the AUR. both sides have the same workflows and software available
I'd say it's fair, considering Windows users are always screeching about how Linux sucks because the command line is bad and everything should be done with a GUI.
Linux used how Linux users use it, versus Windows used how Windows users use it.
all i learned from your reply is that you don't understand experimental design
All I learned from your reply is that you think I care about whether a shitpost webm is rigorously following the scientific method.
if you don't care about obtaining correct information, then your opinion is worthless
Do you care about obtaining correct information regarding the rate of growth of the ass hairs on an endangered subspecies of the wild yak? Probably not. I don't care about how fast winget can install Firefox and I don't need to care about how fast winget can install Firefox, because every Linux gaming thread in the history of this board has been swarmed with Windows fanboys screeching about how the supposed need for a command line makes Linux bad because command lines are bad.
i wouldnt post incorrectly about yak ass hair growth and try to write it off as reasonable because 12 year old pajeets on a mongolian basket weaving site live in my head rent free. use pacman to install and run edge or you have no balls
I didn't post anything incorrectly. I said the video shows Linux used how Linux users use it versus Windows used how Windows users use it, and that's accurate.
Also I reject moving the goalposts to "install a browser you don't want".
we are currently looking at a timeline of something like 29+ mins on arch to install edge and counting. linux really is free only if you don't value your time
Why? Are you compiling it instead of just downloading a binary?
i'm measuring the time since i challenged you to perform the test with the parameters correctly controlled to install edge on both machines. you have now taken over half an hour and still haven't managed to install edge
I'm pretty sure that anon just choose not to install edge. It's fricking chromium based. Just install chromium.
he's a chink, he doesn't understand experimental design. he needs to get edge off of the AUR and run it just to prove that he can at this point. i don't believe that he can manage it
Edge is available through flatpak
tell him that. at this point we're going to reach 1 hour and the chink still hasn't demonstrated the superiority of his arch install by getting edge running in less than 1m36
Anon you don't need to do any building from source to install through flatpak. It's a singe line in terminal to install something through flatpak and flakpak itself can just be installed through the package manager. That isn't' the btfo you think it is.
i accept your challenge. prove these allegations by posting a video of yourself installing and running edge on your linux install
Have you ever once installed something through terminal? Like through winget. It works the same way.
regardless of what i have installed, the truth remains that you personally are incapable of installing and running edge on your linux machine
You're still posting? lol
1. No,
isn't me. The last thing I wrote to you was
, and no, I'm still not going to install a browser I don't want.
2. I'm not Chinese.
3. I don't even use Arch.
loonix troons don't know how to install edge confirmed
The Windows side was done on a potato even for it's time period. There's no reason Edge should take 15 seconds to launch. Also, he could have installed Firefox from the MS store. Third, Firefox is for furry homosexuals.
>Also, he could have installed Firefox from the MS store. Third, Firefox is for furry homosexuals.
holy fricking shit
Are you sick and tired of election tourists yet?
We warned you.
I think you’re being disingenuous. I use both and Edge doesn’t take nearly that long to load. What hardware was this test done on? Linux is generally snappier than Windows and will run much better on lower spec hardware than bloated ass Windows.
>either the windows side has to get firefox from winget in powershell
First they would have to get winget, and is powershell even installed by default?
Windows is still an archaic VMS clone. In a lot of respects it resembles software packaging solutions on other operating systems in the era when it was born in the mid 90s.
Microsoft just hasn't maintained it, because NT and legacy software support is a tiny portion of their income.
They should just let it go, but it is still a weird prestige thing for them that they have 27% of computers running their software.
now include the time it took to know what the command is
>linux shills are chinese
So this whole time its been pajeets vs chinks?
what will really blow your mind is the last time this was posted (or one of them) fast SSH was mentioned. the rest is history.
>windows side is slow and stupid on purpose to make it look worse
rofl
loonix tards have lost it
what people don't see is, that the browser on the left is pre-configured with addons and bookmarks etc etc. the wingblows browser is a first time run.
it was pointed out to the poster(s) of the vid.
they could give nothing but excuses.
it was glorious.
also, you can do silent installs if you know what you are doing.
windows update does not value my time
You clearly don't value it yourself seeing as you didn't turn off automatic updates.
reminder that for most people PC is just browser bootloader
and linux is better at this job simply for being less bloated
Shouldn't "Linux Overall" be more than "Linux, English only", since it includes all languages? I don't get it.
no
this is percentage
this means that more people that use Steam in English are using Linux than people that use Steam in any language (English included)
This is a good way to skip all the Chinese gamers that use Windows in PC bangs
Honestly if all game devs started developing/optimising games for Linux I would just straight up move to Linux
It's better for pretty much everything that is not gaming
the biggest problem with Linux isnt gaming
Its non-IT-related basically IT jobs like video editing, music making and CAD shit
Games work perfectly if there are no rootkits
Devs used to make native Linux ports, but ain't no one keeping all those dependencies up to date for an insignificant fraction of the population. You're gonna emulate windows games, and you're gonna like it.
linux doesnt emualte games
plenty of popular games support linux to this day
they just package the dependencies with the game
>no argument so ad hominem
No. I'm simply telling you that I'm just not a sub-80 IQ moron.
>more ad hominem
>why does it matter
>just don't use it
>you're using x
It's all that you deserve, moron.
and you never answered why it mattered when you can just ignore it have you? and if you hate windows and linux what do you use?
>just ignore it
You just can't help yourself, can't you?
yes just ignore it what else would you even do?
Or talk about the fact that it sucks instead of ignoring it until it doesn't go away.
I keep up to date with programs that I hate, so I can justify my hatred.
>I keep up to date with programs that I hate, so I can justify my hatred.
Most well-adjusted linux user.
Is knowing how the boilerplate linux os works not the norm?
but talking about how you feel it sucks doesn't fix it either
>but talking about how you feel it sucks
It does suck, and talking gets things done. But pretending that it doesn't exist is just moronic.
so than why is it with all the very loud talking about it it has not gotten any better? not even one iota? more to the point if no one uses it no one is going to care to fix it
Bad programs don't magically become good all of a sudden, and I would advocate for replacing them entirely. They just ruin computing, and the current standardization will only get worse as time passes.
and what am i supposed to fricking do just not use fricking computers at all? i NEED it to entertain myself i cannot just NOT USE IT
The point isn't to ignore it, it's to use software that you approve off. You have that choice. You can use something else if you don't like what the 99% uses.
>all the games i play justwerk
>the one i had that gave issue took 5 seconds to look up on protondb and copy/paste into steam command line
>lutris justwerks for gog/pirated vidya
just switched back today, comfier than windows. the fact that all my games run just as good is a plus. ill take the linux pill while morons argue over which is better (they both have pros and cons)
>lutris
>not heroic games launcher
i only used heroic for epic stuff (rocket league, alan wake)
i use it for everything makes it so insanely easy
>What is your excuse?
Doesn't have support for any of the software I use for work.
Hopefully that changes because i'm so fricking over the pajeetware that is W10 and nothing would make me happier than moving to a unix based system.
>Doesn't have support for any of the software I use for work.
your work doesnt give your work PC? Third world?
You don't even get a work PC at Google.
>Gamers are moving to Linux
kek
> SteamOS.
> Runs windows games under steam perfectly.
> Other than games blocking Linux users.
Problem officer?
>perfectly.
But how do I pirate games on Linux?
Steam rips, and gog installers. Codex denuvo cracks don't work, and neither does their steam API emulator.
Based. I will now use your OS.
i download fitgirl repacks and run them thru lutris, or download pre-installed zip files, always works for me. i did it with the new wwe game when it came out
repcka might not work. YOu mgith ened to use winetricks to install direct components
>What is your excuse?
as someone who recently began using linux on a separate machine as a home server/personal project it doesnt justwerk nearly as well as windows. im liking it a lot so far but i cant daily drive it.
what doesnt work?
It just doesn't. No further coments from me will be forthcoming!
werks on my machine
I'll move once Windows 10 is completely dead and drivers don't support it.
PopOS and Steam Deck have freed me from windows
> dualboot windows and linux
> if it works on linux play it there, otherwise windows
I do this for all my software and hasn't failed me yet.
What a moronic troll
what do you mean? Its all facts
I will ride win10 until steam stops supporting it
After that I will switch to either switch to linux, find the next Ganker or Ganker approved windows, or kill myself.
LTSC 2021 until 2032
>IoT OS
might as well get rasberry Pi and use that. Might get Half Life working
>gamers are moving to Linux
>February
Update your image.
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
Huh, Linux being more popular than Mac OSX is pretty surprising
nobody uses mac to play games
Mac dropped x86 support, it literally has to emulate games now. And before that they dropped 32-bit support.
On Steam? Not really. Not only did Apple fricked native Mac gaming by removing 32-bit support (leaving a lot of native games unplayable), but also Valve left Mac gaming to die when they decided to push Linux the way they did with Proton, not to mention Steam Deck. MacOS having more native games means frick all when a bunch of them are unplayable now and when Steam on Linux is so good at running Windows games that some Linux users actually prefer it to running games natively.
>0.11%
holy cope lmfao
In another 9 years it will be 1% higher!!!!!
>>0.11%
Why are you looking only at Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS 64 bit?
Also, posting February statistics almost a week into April is cope. If the +0.18% didn't matter then we wouldn't still be seeing the old numbers in every thread.
Month to month the numbers go up or down for everything as it's random.
Lets say best case scenario, Linux is going up 0.18% per year. So in 10 years it will be up 1.8%.
So in 100 years, Linux might be relevant at 22% market share...
Lol
Lmao even
>Lets say best case scenario, Linux is going up 0.18% per year.
How can that be the "best case" when it's not even as good as reality? Did you look at OP's image?
Here's the web page where he got that plot, in case you want to mouse over the data points to see the actual numbers.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/
In March 2019, Linux was at 0.82% of Steam users. According to you, at an absolute maximum of 0.18% per year, it would still be at 1.72%, but it's actually at 1.94%. And it wasn't even increasing for most of that time. In the past three years (since March 2021 when it was at 0.85%), it has increased about 0.36% per year, double your "best case". In the past two years (since March 2022 when it was at 1.00%), it has increased 0.47% per year. Not only is it already increasing more than you say is possible; it's also accelerating. But go ahead and that pretend it's all completely random and that there's no upward trend in that graph. I'll just laugh at you.
>b-but it's still small
Doesn't matter. You were wrong. Don't make dumb statements like "best case scenario, Linux is going up 0.18% per year" if you don't want to be wrong. Next time just start with the goalposts at wherever you're about to move them.
didnt read lmao
troonix is and will always be irrelevant for another 100 years
None of these numbers are reliable whatsoever because the steam hardware survey is completely optional and not all users take part. I have never opted into it myself on either my Windows or Linux systems and I’m not special. Most users simply don’t opt in and the ones that do don’t opt in every single month.
So Linux magically has 50% of hidden users?
Holy cope
That’s not what I said. I said the steam hardware survey isn’t accurate and isn’t a complete dataset.
Considering it's entirely random and month to month hardly changes outside of when a new Windows version releases says otherwise.
I bet you are one of those people that say poll isnt accurate if its only 1000 people participating in it
absolute moron
>a thousand people is an accurate cross section of over 300 million.
Only statistics nerds would think this is true because of some hackneyed formula that even a first year sociology or psychology student could pull apart as an accurate representation of a large population.
Media nerds know its also bullshit but rely on those statistics to support propaganda models.
>linux has 50% marketshare secretly guys, i swear Steam is putting out propaganda!!!
Picture related
Law of averages. Maybe finish high school before posting.
law of average is not some actual thing but a belief and in this case its you believing you are somehow smarter than everyone else
so you are a moron huh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2022_French_presidential_election
please explain why French polls with sample sizes of 1000 accurately predicted the results of the presidential election
Why, 1000 people was enough to get the option of 30 million people?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election
why did Trump vs Clinton got predicted by percentages pretty much with the right margins with sample sizes of 1000?
You think all Americans just voted according to the polls?
Do you even have pubes yet?
But i am smarter than you? Did you think i said law of averages as a rebuttal of what you were doing? Or a descriptor of what you're claiming, that is self explanatory as to why your method is flawed, and why it's clear you've not finished high school.
so your theory is that polling companies run the world
right
nooo
win7 bros, win8 frens
>ALL GREEN
we can not stop winning
>Capture 1.8% of the market in 30 years
>Act like you just won the Superb Owl
Poverty franchise honestly.
>t. lifelong Windows fan of like 5 months or something
Linux is mostly used to develop Linux
linuxtrannies lost
Lost what?
currently on 10. gonna stay here till its too late then switch to 11. i tried linux its cool but not stable enough (without me having to fix shit constantly) and i just dont find it worth the hassle. im not a dev. even on windows im able to solve or troubleshoot shit easier when things go wrong. on linux i usually just give up. yes its a skill issue but as someone who tinkers in windows even i find linux shot hard to fix so i just stick to what i know . no shame in that.
>Gamers are moving to Linux
--to larp in VR Chat and nothing else, since Linux has no games
Actually VR chat hasn't worked right on linux for years because NFT gays made them put easy anticheat in.
why are people upset about most people using windows? we are not cool and intelligent like you bro, that's it
>why are people upset about most people using windows? we are not cool and intelligent like you bro, that's it
Man these linux users
>linuxtrannies lost
>Friendly reminder linux is only free if your time has no value
>You're a linjeet
>Linux is for homos
Are so mad. Why can't they just leave windows chads alone.
so you think a windows user started the thread?
Say that I wanted to switch is there a distro made for gaming.? Like I want to install my games as little hassles as possible
Mint is probably your best bet.
>mint
outdated dogshit with slow software.
>Nobara
one man show. Enjoy switching when the project is inevitably abandoned.
>poopos
more outdated dogshit. It's latest release is based on Ubuntu 22.04 from April 2022. All software will be outdated and/or broken.
don't listen to their recommendations and just install Ubuntu.
>Whines about "outdated dogshit"
>Posts Ubuntu
Dude you can even cut the canonical middleman and install LMDE and just have a straight up debian installation
Mint is based on Ubuntu LTS, meaning you're leaving this poor guy on potentially one year out of date software when he just wants play videogames. Regular Ubuntu is on a 6 month cadence, much more suitable for gaming and regular desktop use.
Nothing beats Ubuntu when it comes to ease of use and support.
he said game with little hassle, thats ur best bet. i use arch btw
Ok, I've checked all three but all concessions seemed to point to Nobara instead. Anyone who used this, thoughts?
mint, nobara, pop os
I already use Linux (NixOS).
Alright Ganker, how would a brainlet like me migrate from win10 to linux?
Which distro is best for gaming?
How much of my shit am I going to lose across my SSDs?
>Gamers are moving to Linux now that Windows 10 support is dying
imo I think it's because of the Steam Deck not people manually installing linux onto their system. I've recently been getting a support request from Steam Deck users every week for a project I like, and successfully hand holding them through it. The Deck is more popular than you think and it's boosting Linux like a mother fricker right now and I'm all for it. Especially since the Deck would be a more stable target than even a windows PC leaving devs with zero excuse not to port to it.
Linux isn’t quite there yet but I don’t understand the blind rage some of you have towards it. Any competition to Windows is a good thing and I hope Linux continues to improve.
Linux is there. It just needs the market share for developers to actually port to it. Even 15% market share and Linux will be golden. Maybe knock Windows down to only 50% so there aren't as many only windows matters devs.
No it isn’t. There’s still too much stuff that requires tinkering to make work correctly. Wayland is still a piece of shit. Professional level software is vastly inferior. There’s a laundry list of reasons why it’s only good for enthusiasts still. I daily drove multiple Linux distros for the past year and none of them are ready for the average monkey. The more you delude yourself into thinking “it’s already there” the less progress is made.
Dude the only person
THE ONLY ONE actually having issues with Wayland has been the fricking Duckstation homosexual.
Plenty of people have issues with Wayland, especially on Nvidia. Nvidia makes up the majority of graphics cards. You will not convince them to swap to AMD because they are mostly moronic.
I thought it was implied, my mistake.
Those people don’t even use Windows anymore. They’ve pretty much all been converted to phone/tablet users. The people I am talking about are the majority morons that buy prebuilts and/or build PCs with a 4060 and spend $250-300 on an AIO for the 7600. This is the majority of the home PC market now and these are the people you need to convert, and l no distro is really there yet. You can jeer at them all you want but you still need to convert enough of them for developers to actually cater to Linux. That’s why it’s not there yet. By the end of this decade though? I think there’s a real chance.
Even then the majority of those users use steam. And use steam for everything gaming related.
And many of those users also play games not on Steam that are not playable on Linux currently.
>Nvidia makes up the majority of graphics cards
That's not even a coherent statement
You know exactly what I mean, don’t be obtuse.
Black person no I don't, if I did I wouldn't be here telling you that you're moronic.
Do you have autism?
You're in a linux gaming thread. Take a fricking guess.
I'm not him, but to be fair, your earlier post didn't specify that "there" meant "ready for the average monkey".
For the average monkey vast majority of computer usage is just browser.
most users are on an nvidia gpu. nvidia does not even work with wayland (which means your options are to use a high-latency desktop environment based on x11 or to experience constant graphical artifacts and bugs) and there are still many games without vulkan support. linux outperforms windows on games with vulkan support on amd hardware. this is a minority of users
>linux outperforms windows on games with vulkan support on amd hardware
linux outperforms windows games with DirectX support on AMD hardware as well
maybe navi4? 5? will actually have cards that are available with good cost performance before w11 goes EOS and people need to pay a subscription fee for w12. afaik right now only like 12% of users are on amd. you would have needed to be willfully ignorant to buy RDNA1 on release or to make a blind leap of faith with RDNA2, and that only covers people who built their pc in the last 5 years
The problem AMD has had is that the vast majority of hardware sales happen through OEM contracts, and Nvidia has had that market locked up which was why the Deck was a big deal for them. AMD could have the absolute best price/performance and barely get a bump from system builders all picking one up.
Also just noticed in the Steam Survey, Deck is now getting split in the GPU stats.
AMD Custom GPU 0405 .67% (LCD Deck)
AMD RADEON RADV VANGOGH .19% (OLED?)
Combined that is .86% which would put the Deck ahead of the Radeon 580 as AMD's best represented identifiable hardware.
>4% in February
>4.5% in March
>0.5% 10 years ago
Why would anyone willingly use Windows for gaming in 2024 except for anti-cheat games?
I like to mod games and don't want to deal with the inevitable few games that won't work on troonix. Also nvidia because I like a gpu that just werkz with different shit.
>Modern games suck dick
>You need to spend 2K just to play some FoTM goyslop
>Microshit pajeets forcing you to update to Winbot 12 with facial AI recognition and shit
>morons still think loonix "just weks" cuz SteamDeck uses it and their shitty RPGmaker ero game from 2010 works just fine on wine
I think it might be just time for me to find another hobby. I'm almost 30 anyway
Yeah. You zoom zooms need to get out of gaming.
Wow I want to get all my tech tips from this tard now
good morning sirs
windoze confirmed 30x faster at installing edge
Zoomies don't even know how to use Windows.
The year of Linux desktop will never come.
People will just move to mobile and sandboxed handhelds with ChromeOS or some other cancer.
PC Gaming as you know it is dying with moronic hardware prices and worse optimizations.
>worse optimizations.
competency problem that affects everyone
Also a matter of perspective. To a PCgay, subpar performance is unacceptable so you will hear b***hing about bad ports. To a consolegay, subpar performance is just the normal experience.
That's a buttery smooth 60fps.
I wonder why they haven't made AndroidOS more mainstream other than being associated with Google. Maybe a FreeDroidOS would be based development? Running APKs natively and android programs, programming as well in android itself.
> No backdoors.
> But but government threatens to install them anyway.
Frick government lmao.
i wish loonix was actually good and easy to use so i could ditch winblows but im a moron
I wish Linux was good as well, but it's not.
>bringing out election statistics to attempt to prove steam wrong
this is next level cope. i am on the floor dying
I want all my shit to work and typically that means using Windows for games, simple as that. On Linux you could run into some compatibility issue or idk your fricking Proton version or whatever teh frick doesn't work with it, some config that doesn't exist on Linux or mods not working. Tweak this, tweak that. How the frick do I-
It's just inconvenient still. Using Linux feels like living in a fixer upper home that requires constant fix-upping..
I tweak Windows and have over 220 keys in my registry file, tonnes of commands / scripts to change BCDedits, debloating etc.
Use Linux on a HTPC and backup laptop.
Despite all of this time, effort, research, I will never use Linux as a gaming machine.
it's really up to steam to decide who the main operating system is
Is it even possible to game on Linux? Can I get a driver for a 4080?
What's the easiest way to get into Linux? I don't want to learn command lines only to find I can't do god damn anything. I really hate Microsoft though, and their new versions of windows like to use my real name and logged in online accounts all the time. I don't want to use them anymore. Microsoft is clearly anti freedom. They want to know everything everyone does and control all of it.
If you got a 4080 I would just stick with PC and not worry about Linux when it comes to that.
Linux is built with AMD users in mind more than Nvidia.
Other way around anon. The software and Hardware companies choose how much effort they put into supporting Linux users.
You can always just use a software manager(Windows equivalent would be an app sttore) and just live through that and flatpaks.
No. There will come a moment where you need the terminal and it will come much sooner than you think. If you think you won't, you're clearly not using your PC enough..
Nvidia has proprietary drivers for linux systems
You WILL learn the command line if you are going to use Linux bud, sorry. Get used to that concept or stick to Windows.
Nice, non-autists filtered by requiring the use of command line knowledge.
I wouldn't say it's required in a lot of distro's but even in distro's designed to look/act like Windows occasionally you'll have to open up a terminal.
>be me
>download cachyos and boot on an usb
>select nvidia module
>install cachyos
>go to cachyos package manager and type cachyos-gaming
>everything i need to game is selected and ready
>load steam
>download game
>play
I did this with nobara, the welcome thing they got is super useful. The only non idiot proof thing they have is discovery updates. Discovery is good to download the apps you need at first, but after you should update using the system update app and not discovery cause discovery can be stupid and go for fedora shit instead of nobara shit a problem the native system updater doesn't have.
To homosexuals that want to switch to an easy Linux, nobara was made by Glorious eggroll, the dude who basically makes proton work (the thing that let's you use steam) for his dad, who I assume isn't a power user cause all the shit is pretty straightforward without all the terminal use needed. Hence why nobara is simple
linux users cannot even install edge. this thread is proof of that
Windows users can't install gamescope.
>but I don't want it!
Too bad. I'm already counting exactly how many nanoseconds you've been failing to install it.
WSL doesn't count btw.
are the windows users in the room with us now? install edge, pussy
>are the windows users in the room with us now?
Yes, dumb ass.
>install edge
I did. It took 10 seconds. If you don't believe me then you're just coping.
>day
It's nighttime, idiot.
you cannot install edge. you don't know how. i accept your concession
No real person wants to use Edge, you freak. Every other alternative is strictly better.
it isn't about using edge or not. we are analyzing a short video that compares how long it takes to install a browser on each os. we have a time for installing edge on windoze, but none on linux. and that's because you don't know how to install edge.
Ignore the chinese hacker he's got gov restrictions he can't hack past.
chinkjeet linux users will never be able to record video of themselves installing and running edge. they aren't smart enough
Whoa hold it with all that edge talk, you might cut yourself with it! Q.Q
1:52AM. That's morning.
>hurr durr it's AM so it's daytime
Morning is when the sun comes up. Only a badly programmed AI chatbot that never saw a sunrise or touched grass would think that morning starts at midnight.
I except your secession
So if the sun goes down at 9:00 in the spring, it's not night at 8pm, but it is during the fall?
Are you an idiot? The day is split into quarters.
Morning: 6AM to 12AM. Afternoon: 12AM to 6PM. Evening: 6PM to 12PM. Night: 12PM to 6AM.
12:00AM-11:59AM is morning
12:00PM-11:59PM is day
You dumb b***h.
Funny that nobody says "1 at night."
Everyone does here. Everything from midnight until 6AM is night time. That's why we have 4 fricking QUARTERS
>That's why we have 4 fricking QUARTERS
Maybe in Dumbfrickistan where you seem to live but the civilised world uses 24 hour time.
We use the 24 hour clock while still maintaining the simple concept of having a day divided in quarters, morning/afternoon/evening/night. If that really is so mind blowing, touch grass.
>24 isn't divisible into quarters
lol????
Yes it is
Who are you quoting because that's not what I said you inbred hillbilly.
"I gotta get up at 5 at night to go to work."
"You work the night shift?"
"No, I start at 6 in the morning."
Are you moronic? You clearly never talk to people. The conversation would be a lot more natural and you'd be giving a lot more context.
"I tend to get up at 5 in the morning, get dressed, brush my teeth, get to work just before 6. First break around 9, then lunch at 12."
You wouldn't say "I get up. At 5 at night. Like a real human boy." you fricking robot. Holy shit.
Yeah it's 5 at fricking night. If something keeps you up all night, what fricking hours would you include in that shit? I ASSUME THE ONES THAT COME AFTER MIDNIGHT AND BEFORE MORNING HOLY SHIT
Funny how you Shatnerized my natural sentences. You're also contradicting yourself in the same post.
How the frick are you going to make these out of the number 24?
>Linuxjeets can't play Fortnite
>Can't run current Photoshop
We can do this all day.
>can't play Fortnite
Listing reasons for linux's supremacy I see.
Cope.
>We can do this all day.
And the only people who want to are moronic. Can we get back to installing a non-preinstalled browser. The thing that actually matter to a user.
It's daytime in India
>Is it even possible to game on Linux? Can I get a driver for a 4080?
Yes, you can install blobs and closed source software. Nvidia has their own proprietary linux drivers. They aren't very good in terms of features, but they play games well enough.
>What's the easiest way to get into Linux?
Try mint. That's a good entry level distro.
>I don't want to learn command lines
You don't have to, but I would recommend at least learning extremely basic commands for installing and searching for software and also updating your system with your package manager. In the case of mint, that's apt
No thanks, I'm happy with windows 7
I've been using Fedora for years. Quitting Windows has been one of the best decisions I've made when it comes to dealing with computers.
Nobody can give me a compelling reason to switch.
Linux users feel like conspiracy theorists to me, they're so much overlap too. They both have a superiority complex that stems from finding some snowflake thing to believe in or use to make them feel special and superior to the 'regular sheeples'
It seriously takes a special type of stupid to use Linux over Windows that just works.
Most of us are sane and can identify the shortcomings of Linux. However there are certainly extremists as with anything. Unfortunately they get the most traction and puts us in a bad light.
These threads are just bait from both Windows and Linux users, I wouldn't take them seriously. If you actually want to discuss Linux on Ganker, Ganker or /vg/ are your best bets.
My god. A normal human bean?
I might be a human bean, but I also contribute to the shitposting here. It's fun.
>If you actually want to discuss Linux on Ganker, Ganker or /vg/ are your best bets.
>Ganker
>any time i go there to ask a question i get ridiculed
no. ive had much better luck on reddit but honestly youtube imo is the best to learn linux so far for m e
IMO youtube is a waste of time, I get better mileage out of books if I need wide coverage or asking LLM stupid questions if I need something specific, but for each his own.
>any time i go there to ask a question i get ridiculed
I bet you deserved it for asking /sqt/ material outside of /sqt/.
i'm poasting from edge right now, fatties
I'll switch when W10 becomes unusable, too lazy to bother til then
>chink spyware
no thanks
linux users at 1am (night time) are wildly scrambling as we speak to copy and paste lines they don't understand from a pajeet's answer on stackexchange into konsole in a desparate attempt to install edge, but all attempts have failed
Keep in mind it's 11:38AM where linux users are.
You are forgetting all the 2pm beijing timers.
actually, i just tried linux on an old laptop a few days ago. here is my experience:
>installation errors
>missing drivers
>performance was worst than win7
>wifi keep disconnecting
yea, no thanks. windows may be garbage but at least it works.
Old computers don't funnily enough work well with Linux, lmao.
how old and did it have another partition?
>missing drivers
Literally every driver is part of the Linux kernel, stop lying
>anime moron
>can't into linux
shocking
Steam Deck made me comfortable with it. I was worried, but I've been super impressed with the deck so I'll make the switch to mint.
>What is your excuse? Its free as in beer and free as in freedom.
UI is shit, devs refuse to fix it.
>What is your excuse?
Libbie won't give me paizuri!
Why the frick do you homosexuals want more normalgays moving to Linux? It will only end up with one or more distros becoming as shit as Windows. Let them stay with Microsoft because that dick isn't going to suck itself.
There's a sweet spot and we're not at it yet.
>normiegay distros result in more companies releasing Linux native shit
>c**ts like GE get the good sauce from those distros and create non shit distros with enough separation to keep ubernerds in their own circle jerk
>windows and silicon valley monopolies and powerbase die like they should and the internet and program ecosystem improves for a while.
whoah, keep your unhinged and HIGHLY antisemitic ranting to /misc/, okay
You lack subtlety.
Normalgays are too dumb to ever switch so it doesn't really matter.
Pretty much what the 2nd anon said.
More people = More native support from software companies which Linux lacks
Are you by any chance familiar with or involved in such software companies or a software dev?
ye olde windows
>want to change wallpaper
>right click desktop, personalize and pick wallpaper
nu-windows
>want to change wallpaper
>right click desktop
>now it's an extra layer with "more options"
>os thinks about it for several seconds
>finally gives me the personalize option
>now allowed to pick a wallpaper
w11 is so fricking bloated
this is one of the reasons why i switched.
not bad, and all my games run fine on my 4070, only "downside" is not having meme features like framegen or reflex, and some games straight wont let you enable raytracing (resident evil 4 remake) but otherwise its working guud for me
or, and hear me out. they bought a deck.
372 replies, and nobody's given me a compelling reason to switch.
You have to try for yourself Black person, if you like you like you don't like you don't like and stick to Windows/MAC it's as simple as that
But what reason is there to try it?
Wayland will be usable with that patch on NVIDIA cards
Windows is currently usable on Nvidia cards.
Yea, so is Linux on X11
I'll never know.
You'll probably know more in 2 months if you visit these threads again to hear the feedback on how such driver is going with Wayland+Nvidia cards
Why should people spend their time trying to convince ${You} to use a different operating system? If you have no interest in Linux then you shouldn't use Linux. Anyone who implied otherwise was baiting, and nobody actually cares if you use Windows. Do what you want.
Meanwhile I'm going to keep using Linux because nobody has given me a compelling reason to go back to Windows. If that upsets you then take your meds.
Frick off luis rossman go back to pissing away 2 million dollars getting right to repair passed in a shithole and then bragging like it means anything
Also the video you're quoting is literally against moving to linux if your shit just werks
What video?
Op is moronic
>2015
lol update your FUD
didn't he then switch to Debian because Windows kept fricking him?
ubuntu gaming is best gaming
They should build their own car and house too.
>linshit increasingly turning turn into pajeetdows. tech-illiterate pajeetdows rapefugees don't give two shits about doing things the right way (e.g. package managers) and demand that everything turns into their shitty GUI-driven babby duck OS (i.e. menu-driven UI without keyboard shortcuts, no scripting or batch processing, you have to tick checkboxes with the mouse)
>linshit development controlled and steered by a cabal of the strongest sotware corpos in the world. torvalds is their b***h
the future is looking very grim
Man gnome was like that long before linux was popular.
early phase of an exponential curve, linux will overtake windows this decade, thanks to volvo and ai
personally i gonna slup a Steam Deck a ditch the desktop pc completely. linux notebook is enough for waging, and in case you want to do ai stuff you can rent gpus online for cents. the only thing not covered is vr but that's still a meme (though i might grab a Quest 3 to see how it is)
Pretty much been gearing my family up for the switch from Windows to Linux since last year. Android devices help and Chromebooks helps, so getting over that "daily driver" hump should be better.
We're going with Zorin and so far, it's doing everything we need it to do. And it does seem there's more support to move certain programs over to Linux.
my linux computer just randomly freezes and i can't do anything but physically reset it. and praying restarting the pc from the case button doesnt damage my hardware somehow.
don't fricking get on linux until there is an official valve operating system. it's not worth it. amateur shit made by literal trannies.
also nothing fricking works. i dont even mean random niche programs but basic functionalities. like you go to settings and the ui just fricking breaks or some switches break shit.
I don't believe you and I use windows
bad bait, last (You)
>kde
Found your problem.
like clockwork. it could have been gnome and a kde wienersucker would have said the opposite thing.
i didn't show my distro so they can't attack that, it's always a game of shifting blame.
they literally act like israelites when they said there was no mattresses found in the tunnels because when they got there they had been moved outside the tunnels so *technically* they werent in the tunnels.
just playing with semanthics and shifting blame, linux is shit frick off
you just don't know how to use it, you need to learn it. Just say you're dumb like the other anon did, it's ok.
>b-b-but I never learned windows!
You're been learning it since the first time you used it, probably in your childhood
my shit hard crashing is because i didn't learn the system apparently.
lmfao. and why have i never had such problems with windows? foss is inherently flawed, accept it. no one makes worthwhile shit without a salary and pressure from their boss. people working "when they feel like it" is a meme. if you believe in foss phylosophy you're literally a moronic communist.
>no one makes worthwhile shit without a salary and pressure from their boss. people working "when they feel like it" is a meme. if you believe in foss phylosophy you're literally a moronic communist.
reminder that linux is only usable for gaming because valve - a private company - funneled a lot of money into it. and made in a couple years what loonix trannies couldn't in 20.
Good example of why the other guy is a fricking idiot.
Working for money and working on FOSS are not mutually exclusive. Valve-funded contributions to Wine etc. are still open-source.
Nah kde is just shit since plasma 6. I might mock someone for using gnome too, but gnome is at least stable DE.
im not even on plasma 6 moron.
you're just low iq
Have you tried changing to a different TTY? It could just be the DE freezing up.
someone told me it's just the graphics drivers doing it despite my gpu being the most common and being amd.
Yeah and next time it happens hit CTRL+ALT+F2/F3 etc and see if it brings you to a login. If it works you can just reboot from there if you're paranoid about resetting the PC.
You can check with running "journalctl -rb -N", where N is how many boot cycles ago the freeze happened, -1 being previous etc. If it says something about ring buffer timeout, it's GPU driver dying, otherwise it can be something else.
>and praying restarting the pc from the case button doesnt damage my hardware somehow
You're in luck, on Linux you can use magic SysRq button on your keyboard to signal your frozen PC to reboot gracefully, unlike windows monkeys who have to pull the plug.
On some distros, this needs to be enabled by setting flags in a config file.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Keyboard_shortcuts#Rebooting
Mint doesn't have all of the "REISUB" functions enabled by default, last time I checked.
Oops. Should have linked this section:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Keyboard_shortcuts#Enabling
Didn't know about this thanks anon, my laptop often goes moron with Linux after suspensions, sometimes it happens with Windows as well
Never got to try that because my shit cheap keyboard doesn't have that key
>zoomer keyboard
lol
It's just the cheapest keyboard so I could put more into the computer
First question I'll ask is are you dual-booting. You're probably not but just so you know that does havee risks. Secondly either install a different desktop environment or reinstall the one you have or just reinstall whatever distro you're using. Your settings menu is fricked up and you don't get the idea that something installed wrong?
the flickering was considered normal on kde. as well as other shit. they have bug reports open but take ages to fix. frick linux
Anon there are several other desktop enviroments. Do you genuinely think people would be using plasma over the other DEs if it had built-in flickering problems. Or dandomly frooze. Or UI broke when you go into settings.
You're talking to the kind of person who also thinks it's "sour grapes" when people who voluntarily made an informed decision to install the operating system with no Fortnite support don't want to play Fortnite, as if we all installed Linux by accident and can't figure out how to install Windows again.
So from the mild skimming I've done. You probably have an NVIDIA card in which case don't use plasma or Wayland. NVIDIA's proprietary drivers don't work well with those, and the open source drivers aren't very good for NVIDIA.
If you really have to use plasma I read stuff like
>disabling flipping in nvidia-settings
>restarting the compositor with SHIFT+Alt+F12 twice
>Go into System Setting > Hardware > Display and Monitor > Compositor and change the tearing prevention to "Full screen repaints"
And there are probably more things to try if you looked at more than one forum page.
and what do you suppose is the problem then? i can't even log out of my session or turn off my monitor while im in a game without everything crashing.
>Do you genuinely think people would
yes. "there's not cutscenes and no audio and it crashes every other time you open the inventory, but it works perfectly. just watch the cutscenes on youtube!"
linux users are masochist homosexuals.
Anon if you look at the protondb page there are also user reporting there are no problems or the game runs with default settings.
As far as what's the problem. I'm assuming you're using an Nvidia card. Those drivers don't work well with plasma. There are a couple things you can try but Nvidia is known not to work well with plasma and wayland.
That's still more clicks than terminal on linux
I wanted to dual boot but I can't seem to shrink my windows disk partition
>What is your excuse?
I'm dumb
>just use linux, bro! it's completely safe and easy to use!
>wait.. why is my system being hacked...?!! NOOOO LINUX WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ULTRA SAFE AND SECURE NOOO THIS CANT BE- AAAAAAAACK
Didn't affect Mint
Not my problem
funny ive been planning on switching to linux soon just because using windows for 20 years has gotten boring.
Windows 12 is fake and will never be a real thing you moronic linux 3rd world ESL
So now Windows 11 is the last Windows but for reals this time? lmao
Are you moronic or just foreign?
>Windows 12 will never be a real thing
You're stupid and I'm not going to waste my time explaining it.
That's what I thought foreigner, now go install linux on your favela PC and frick off from this website.
Is Nobara worth using when it’s only being developed by one guy? Is there a contingency plan for what happens if that guy stops working or is everyone just fricked?
>Is there a contingency plan for what happens if that guy stops working
welcome to FOSS
How "fricked" can you possibly be? You can just start using a different distro.
>but it won't be the same
And Windows 11 isn't the same as Windows 7. So, whatever, be like the Windows 7 holdouts and keep using an unmaintained distro, if you "need" exactly that one distro and nothing else.
Someone could always fork it
As a person who has to travel around a lot, I could never fricking build a PC.
My "gaming" device was a dell laptop with a 1050.
I got the Deck and it changed everything nowadays I play games most of the time on the Deck.
This also applies to my friends who have kids and have no time to sit at their PC desk.
>Install Pop OS
>Sekiro, Bayonetta, and RE4 all worked perfectly on my Steam Deck, I'll give those a try just to make sure everything is working
>Sekiro works but won't go into fullscreen, Bayonetta and RE4 both launch in some huge resolution due to fractional scaling and crash when I try to change it
Guess I'll try again when Valve releases Steam OS for desktop, since apparently they're the only ones who can make Linux even slightly usable
Use Arch or Ubuntu stop falling for meme distros.
That's odd,I don't think fractional scaling should affect things. Did you check in distro settings for your monitor? I wonder if it lists resolutions over its actual resolution or something along those lines
My assumption is that it's fractional scaling because I read somewhere that it has problems with Wayland IIRC, and the resolution that it gave me was 4k * 1.5. RE4 and Bayonetta would boot in fullscreen with that resolution, and changing it (or changing to windowed) would crash the game every time
It probably is not the OS, but almost certainly your hardware.
Same problem Valve has releasing SteamOS 3 to the general public. Valve could only guarantee support for about 15% of systems that have both open drivers and hardware that fully supports Vulkan.
Although for the game resolution problem, you can use Gamescope just like you can on the Deck.
I think this is gamescope fixing those resolution problems on the Deck.
Try installing and fiddling with it on Pop OS too.
Sekiro just werks for me, I never played bayonetta but RE4 was good on dolphin.
I don't want to switch to Linux but it's slowly becoming the only option. Just another problem I'll have to deal with. Oh well.
ignore linux autists at all times
forgot pic
>"ignore linux autists at all times" he says as he voluntarily comes into a Linux thread to complain
lel
linuxgays love to swear that windows doesnt justwerk but anytime you ask them for help they act too cool for school and call you a homosexual and say its a skill issue.
the winjeet shitposter should stop assuming everyone is a tech supporting indian like them
>tfw you spend hours complaining about Linux on Ganker and your posts make exactly zero people switch back to Windows
loonix will never be good so long as wayland exists
I’ve already been using Linux full time since before windows 11 was released, I noticed I didn’t really use anything that required windows other than some games I might wanted to play but even playing vidya was something I lost interest in.
Started wanting to play vidya again, decided to see if FF7 remake and Nier was abled to played on Linux and to my surprise it was. And now with Steam and Proton I can play a lot of games and currently been playing Helldivers 2 a lot with my friends.
>English Only
What?
SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A German state is switching computers to Linux and Greece is like 12%
Keep crying about losing market share even MS knows no one wants to use windows for anything serious https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-developer-reveals-linux-is-now-more-used-on-azure-than-windows-server/
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/german-state-gov-ditching-windows-for-linux-30k-workers-migrating/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_adopters
good morning sirs!
morning saar
Lmao, ironic coming from MS shills who’s ceo is a p00jeet and having the largest scamming network of p00jeets relying on ignorant windows users.
You seething at some news makes my day. Thanks for the yous sirs.
>be some moronic shitskin pajeet spamming microdick threads on Ganker
>pretend that pajeetsoft isn't filled with indians
>project your shitskinnery onto others
Why are Microcucks like this?
Nobody cares. Indians are good at doctoring and Windows development. It just works.™
I'm not seething. I'm just asking how it's on-topic.
>Indian Defense Services
And how is this related to gaming or the Steam user statistics?
How that DX12 support coming along old champ?
vkd3d
I wish you a speedy recovery. Those STDs can be nasty.
That's how you respond to getting btfo? lol
DirectX 12 games have been playable on Linux for a long time. I don't play new games because I'm based, but there's a guy over at
who's been spamming mangohud'd Alan Wake II webms. It's obviously not an issue.
>Ganker is one person
Obviously, you're not too bright. I mean, you use linux.
It doesn't really matter if you're a different anon. You responded to a proposed solution to direct 12 shit with STD shit. Presumably you're dismissing vkd3d
Welcome to Ganker. Since this is your first day, allow me to introduce you to shitposting.
Also, taking bets on whether Windows or linux supported D3D12 first.
>"I was merely pretending"
>still tries to move the goalposts
hahahaha
>EVERYTHING IS ABOUT ME ME ME ME ME
Give it a rest. I made a shitpost, you misinterpreted it due to English being your fifth language, I corrected you, and you're gay.
Shorter process for me. I could pin it to the taskbar to make it quicker.
Christ is that the 11 UI. They already got it right with 7 why are they making it worse. That stupid recommended menus. WHY
Yeah, I can do that as well, but I don't close powershell enough to need to keep opening it.
>MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Yeah, I can do that as well, but I don't close powershell enough to need to keep opening it.
If you're actually using the package manager to install, update, upgrade shit which you should be doing fairly frequently. Than you should be opening it enough to want it a shortcut or click away.
>I made a shitp—ACK
You claimed to be merely pretending and then you still tried to move the goalposts.
IS ABOUT ME ME ME ME ME
I didn't write anything about myself, stupid.
>I
>myself
>You know what my favorite postal abbreviation is? ME
>what is the past tense?
just go back to using your native language, on some web site where it's accepted
You make shit posts that's true
You wouldn't have posted a butthurt response to
if you weren't also an idiot who thought Linux can't run DirectX 12 games, and thus you were also btfo. There's no need for you to be the same person.
How did linux and trannies even get lumped together?
Ganker calls everything troony
I switched to Linux after they started sabotaging Windows 7.
Never installing your 10,11 troony OS.
>another one past the bump limit
I want to thank the Windows fanclub for consistently keeping these Linux gaming threads bumped and thus increasing the visibility of Linux as a gaming platform.
When I decided to switch to Linux, it was after seeing several threads like this one (in which, of course, I completely ignored all the obviously butthurt Linux haters who thought they were keeping me on Windows by spreading FUD).