Master Duel

Do you even read what you post?

Then why aren't people scooping at the sight of Tearlaments like they did Drytron?

no coinflip exploit or disconnect exploit
but they do scoop quick a lot of the time anyway

But you were literally JUST saying the opposite.

Too bad no one does that to meta decks nowadays.

Where's the Tears players complaining they can't play the game like Drytron players?

>you
oh great, another "everyone besides me is one person" schizo

*Cums on you*
Hahahahahahahahahaha. Shut up, b***h.

prob the same anon from last thread lel

Except they are?
Also more people are playing 2-3 evenly/drnm/ttt than in drytron meta where people expected to draw their 1 of kaiju

I do depending on what they hit with mills. With Drytron you knew right at the start if you had outs, with Tears it depends on your hand and how much deck destuction they do to you.
Kashtira is the same. I won't necessarily auto scoop because my opening 5 don't kill the kash board, #6 could do it if Risehart doesn't banish anything important.

Ash Blossom, Cryme, Sulliek
>defeat

can't search skill drain moron

You really don't sound like someone who is experiencing 'fun' right now, or any positive emotion at all for that matter

I have fun playing Yugioh and you don't, making me the winner

why did you respond to your own post

And yet we need to keep Cyberstein and Magical Scientist in the ban list because sometimes, just sometimes, that 1 thing is enough to be fricking broken. Modern cards more commonly have hard once per turn clauses, even cards that do not need them and it feels the designers really, really need keywords like in MTG to prevent mistakes like Tear from ever happening again because they clearly ran out of space to put some damn limitations in those cards.

The point is that modern design is not that bad, it is okay to make a card less wordy but that does not inherently mean it will not be busted. Modern cards aim at consistency, the problem is when they do not have restrictions.

Tearlament Scream for example would be fine if Tear cards could not special summon outside their archetype. Also Tearlament has barely any interaction with the other VISAS cards even the newer ones so that was just bad design at its finest. Lorewise we are supposed to be able to play scareclaw, kash and tear in the same deck with Visas acting as the glue to hold them together, no such cards exists to do so.

If you want a easy coooombo deck I prefer dlink or Kash tomahawk turbo

You're being dishonest
In both fighting games and Master Duel, you go against people in your same "rank"
The difference is when you go against players in fighting games with the same rank, they're ACTUALLY on your same SKILL LEVEL, and you can start winning
In Master Duel, you immediately duel people with meta decks in Rookie

It is not at all the same

>they're ACTUALLY on your same SKILL LEVEL
I don't know how anyone believes this in any fighting game that isn't like Street Fighter when ranked has plenty of smurfs and "on your skill level" is totally nebulous and impossible to gauge anyway besides "this guy wins about the same amount as you do", it's not like the game's analyzing how they play neutral or something outside of, I dunno, Killer Instinct's one gimmick mode? In that sense Master Duel is about on the same level except the incentive to play more than the bare minimum a day is like 3 packs a month or something but in exchange you have agonizing 30+ minute duels and you need to winstreak constantly instead of comparatively much shorter matches in a fighting game

you literally cannot smurf in yugioh because of the ranking system in the low levels

I did and I got bots and trash players and had practically 100% winrate until platinum after not playing for like 3 months

Cool. Doesn't address what I pointed out.
Did they play meta decks or decks filled with normal monsters?
Stop dodging.

The greater issue with comparing Master Duel ranked to a fighting game is that there's no "okay let's do a coinflip to decide who gets to throw a punch first" in a fighting game, left side advantage is about the closest a new player will experience and they won't even call it that because it's just just "goddamn it I started on the right side and I only practiced all my combos facing right because I'm moronic"
And there's no solving the coinflip in Yugioh (no, RPS doesn't solve the issue in this instance because the issue is going first being so strong generally) unless you actually want to print like 50 more decks that play on your turn when you're going first like Tears can. But, you know, more consistently
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Personally I hang out in Silver/Gold every season and probably about 60% of my matches are against people playing Dark Magician/Blue Eyes. Actual metagays are a much smaller percentage than people playing shit like Sky Strikers, Traptrix, uhh... what else have I seen recently, RDA. And in low ranks you don't lose placement so just scoop, except that won't help new players because they'll get bodied by anyone who knows how their petdeck works anyway

>playing Dark Magician/Blue Eyes
Modern omni-negate long-combos to unbreakable board, or actual set pass BEWD/DM?

You people keep dancing around the issue, pretending like low ranks are filled with normies who play Celtic Guardian and La Jinn in their decks, and not just usual yugioh players who've been playing modern for years.
This is meta. They're playing meta. Doesn't matter if (You) personally don't consider it meta because it doesn't fit the hyper-specific definition (You) have.
These people you typically find in Master Duel low ranks are the equivalent of fighting game players who memorized frame data and know all the bread and butter combos and option selects, even if they don't apply them in the most efficient way to reach higher ranks.

Read it, moron
>Doesn't matter if (You) personally don't consider it meta because it doesn't fit the hyper-specific definition (You) have

What's funny is your consistent inability to read

Is it set/pass or not?
Why are you running away from answering this question?

I already answered your question:
>These people you typically find in Master Duel low ranks are the equivalent of fighting game players who memorized frame data and know all the bread and butter combos and option selects, even if they don't apply them in the most efficient way to reach higher ranks.

...because that's what a typical new player would do?
Read the conversation instead of being a moron jumping in the middle of the thread.

morons are claiming that low ranks are filled with low level players that are absolute noobs like new players, in the same way fighting games have.
MY argument is that what ACTUAL low level players would do is things like add a bunch of normal monsters and Trap Holes into their deck and set pass, not Xyz-to-Link-to-Synchro long combos, which is what low ranks are filled with and are NOT low level.
And morons like

>Doesn't address what I pointed out.
Yes it does you fricking moronic you can't camp on rookie, bronze, silver or gold you are gonna rank up sooner or later

and

I'm choosing to believe that anon is a genuine moronic yugiboomer because that's more funny than the more likely option, which is that it's just some (You) addicted gay trying to bait

dance around this point.

Yeah, it's funny how they're claiming it's the same.

Hey, you type like that other guy, the one who thinks that everyone is a chink.

>Modern omni-negate long-combos to unbreakable board, or actual set pass BEWD/DM?
The latter typically. I think I've seen one Blue Eyes player put Jet Dragon on the field ever, and most DM players just know "activate Magician's Souls, set Eternal Soul". Maybe one of them will make Dark Magician The Dragon Knight to protect Eternal Soul.
There is no simple boost from being a complete beginner to knowing what you should interrupt to stop your opponent from popping off besides "buy the easy to access decks and play them". If that's too overwhelming for people and they don't want to learn enough to play at the new skill FLOOR of Yugioh, that's too overwhelming for them and they should play something else. It's current year, resources are readily available and even dumbasses like myself in these threads help people constantly if they ask a not completely moronic question.
Anyone who can read at a 5th grade level can still get into Yugioh. Probably lower. They did not miss the boat. I would argue the barrier to entry is actually much lower in Yugioh than in fighting games if you're just talking about winning, because in fighting games usually you don't have effectively one touch kill combos that win you the whole match you can do from round start with minimal resources. And they're easier to do in Yugioh too.

>That's not "set pass" YGO. Those are not new players.
I'm pretty sure they are because the other option is that they're vehemently sticking to playing unoptimal decklists for whatever reason. They just looked up "good Dark Magician deck", maybe read their cards, and otherwise play everything the game lets them play.
>That's a HIGHER barrier for entry
It's just following a flowchart. It's like flowchart Ken except your opponent can't wake up level 3 you because it's not their turn, it's your turn and you can do whatever you want and they just have to take it. In a fighting game if you want to win, you have to actually successfully beat the shit out of the other guy, so they get more chances to play instead of getting one touched and folding before their turn even comes like in Yugioh. Or worse, they go first but you activate Maxx "C" and they scoop.

If they're already looking stuff up, I don't think they're going to settle on DM for anything out of "hey I'm getting back into Yugioh and I remember this card". Someone who isn't actually just a new player would pick up one of the highly recommended or really any new deck because they recognize the power gap that's occured over the years.
>Someone doing a flowchart in yugioh is the OPPOSITE of that and is far more familiar with the game.
But ANYONE can do a Tearlaments or Adamancipator or Drytron combo in Yugioh because you don't need to have drilled the muscle memory into your hands or fast reactions to confirm it. You just need to... put the cards on the field in the same order the other guy did. It's really easy, which is why people laugh when other people frick up their combo and why people scoop out of shame if they misplay sometimes.

The greater issue with comparing Master Duel ranked to a fighting game is that there's no "okay let's do a coinflip to decide who gets to throw a punch first" in a fighting game, left side advantage is about the closest a new player will experience and they won't even call it that because it's just just "goddamn it I started on the right side and I only practiced all my combos facing right because I'm moronic"
And there's no solving the coinflip in Yugioh (no, RPS doesn't solve the issue in this instance because the issue is going first being so strong generally) unless you actually want to print like 50 more decks that play on your turn when you're going first like Tears can. But, you know, more consistently

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Have you played low ranks like Rookie lately?
They literally run meta decks.
These are people who've been playing modern yugioh IRL for years, and now they're entering Master Duel and making it unfun for new players to come in.

Personally I hang out in Silver/Gold every season and probably about 60% of my matches are against people playing Dark Magician/Blue Eyes. Actual metagays are a much smaller percentage than people playing shit like Sky Strikers, Traptrix, uhh... what else have I seen recently, RDA. And in low ranks you don't lose placement so just scoop, except that won't help new players because they'll get bodied by anyone who knows how their petdeck works anyway

>strawman

The problem is not a lack of tutorials. YGO is not a fighting game.
You can't make a tutorial that teaches all 12k+ plus cards, nor can you make a tutorial to teach countless combos and scenarios and matchups.
The problem with modern YGO is the high skill floor that makes the game impenetrable to people.
The problem is the entire game.

>if new players can't play caveman against each other and get wins they'll quit which is a moronic and unhealthy way to treat people
That's literally what happens with fighting games.
You pit low level players against each other and they learn bit by bit with the more interactions they have, done by experiencing the game.
You don't sit for hours reading thousands of pages of text just to get an understanding of what is going on.
When a new player takes their starter deck they're given, game 1 turn 1 their opponent is summoning 10 monsters and playing 20 cards. They learn nothing from that. Game 2 turn 1 their new opponent is doing the same thing but with an entirely different set of cards. They learn nothing.

Where is the fun?

The complexity is what makes it fun. When I learned Dragon Link I played nothing but solo mode(aside from dailies) for 3 days. Three whole days of nothing but reading and understanding cards and practicing combo lines for hours at a time.
Those three days were some of the most fun I've had in Master Duel.
If you don't want a complex card game, Yugioh is simply not for you. And that's okay. you have an endless amount of simpler alternatives. Just play one of those instead. Let Yugioh players have the one unique card game on the market.

bro, even the DM anime had crazy infinite loops and weird shit going on. yugioh has always been a convoluted mess.

>we're now at the point in your shitposting where you give up on attempting to sound genuine because you've worked yourself into an unarguable position and just write dismissive replies instead
epic, simply epic

Because there's no other card game like modern Yugioh. If I want to replicate the feel of 2003
Yugioh I can play a card game like Magic where there's an energy system in place to control the pace of the game. I play Yugioh because I DON'T want that. The appeal of Yugioh is that you don't waste time activating lands back and forth for several turns, both players get to go all out right from the gate.

That's called "player interaction", sweaty

really makes you think doesn't it

>the difference is when you go against players in fighting games with the same rank, they're ACTUALLY on your same SKILL LEVEL
lol
lmao
have you seen strives dogshit rank system and sf6's inconsistent one?

>since UR dust ended up being the only real currency.
Yeah, same reason why Elf is still alive

I can't believe they refused to ban Union Carrier from 3

Nobody fricking owned 3 Union Carrier to get max value from it's banned. Meanwhile over 90% of the playerbase gets 90 UR dust if the roach is ever banned.

So does elf but whatever

all the maxx cs are crafted to begin with, it literally doesn't matter