I think it's really funny. Elf and Sprind both are no nowhere near as good outside of Sprights so really this boosts how long Spright will be live for.
No longer tier 1, which means no one will play it. It's still good enough for ladder, but it was an NPC deck, so all npcs will now abandon ship. The good think about D-Link, is that even if it's the best deck, most people won't play it, because it's not moron friendly.
>so will Tear just be a meme soon? please say yes
Not a meme, but >no elf, spring >no diviner to mill ishizu because it is a brick >cannot fusion like crazy since they lost a main deck >Lol miller to 1
Yeah yeah, Kash tear. What's the point of Kash tear if you don't have shit to mill?
>power creeping the most supported monster type
What the frick did he mean by this? That's like saying the dark attribute has been powercrept. Dragon pile is literally a forever main stay.
It's hilarious that they can completely kill tear without hitting a single SR or UR. If, by some miracle, it still manages to be top tier with Kash Tear, they can just kill Havnis next and the deck dies forever without any refunds.
>If, by some miracle, it still manages to be top tier with Kash Tear
There's still a bunch of tear support lined up, don't you worry. The deck isn't going anywhere.
Exosisters became unplayable the second fenrir released. The deck is too xenophobic, can't use any good tech or cards in it. Can't use Fenrir, or Kash counters like Kuri Kara or Nib or Kaijus. The deck was always on a timer for death once Kash was released. It's only purpose and window for playability was during tear dominance.
You guys are still playing this dogshit? The current format is unplayable. Don’t you get bored of handtraps and the turn flip determining whether you win?
Those aren't mutually exclusive. The fact that the game boils down to either going first or pray you drew handtraps is dire. And even then, handtraps are just as likely to make your opponents turn 1 game state even more oppressive if they manage to draw some.
Hand traps are cancer that enables the game's worst habits, while having the gall to pretend like they're a band-aid solution to them.
>Traptrix mirror >none of our traps work >we spend several turns just smash smol bug girls into each other >eventually make Accesschud and end the game
It's always amusing when your worst opponent is yourself.
>Normal Summon stacking so it dodges Maxx >Self-banishing so it dodges grave interaction >Incredibly easy to splash monster based floodgates into thanks to being tribute focused >Recursive as frick so they're almost always guaranteed to get their loop
One of Konamis MD lead devs is a Kashtira fanboy and still anal pained about Lab topping in paper tourneys against Kashtira with lucky hands. They're so mad that they won't even understand Lab can only top because of 3x Skill Drain
I mean, in the context of the post I was replying to he was discussing a dev being mad about "Lab topping against Kashtira" in tourneys and claimed it was because of Skill Drain 3x.
So I would assume the anon I was replying to cares.
I didn't say I want the deck dead, just not top tier anymore. It has been on top for far too long. They can easily kill the deck just by destroying all its ED (Romulus, borrelend, pisty) , since any main deck hit can be remedied by another replacement.
>hanging out in furry artist’s Picarto watching him draw boobs >we start talking about nerd hobbies >he brings up MTG >i bring up Yugioh >says MTG has way better gameplay than Yugioh >proceeds to stop the stream to show us his furry deck full of dog cards, which he calls doggos
Should I bother trying current MTG or should I just assume it’s a tunnel vision thing and skip it?
Magic is the better game and has way better gameplay, he's not wrong. Yugioh has better art (in modern day) and the best client so that's why I play it more.
If Arena had MDs economy I'd have dropped MD by now.
Zeus is bullshit just because a full field clear shouldn't be that easy to set-up. Baronne is fine though
The battlephase is the most irrelevant part of modern yugioh and you want to remove the only meta card left in existence that involves the battlephase?
Baronne is absolutely unfair and absolute shit card design.
Zeus's effect is unfair, but the card is fine overall because it's designed around having a battle phase and creating longer games (if you Zeus going second, your opponent has a turn 3 guaranteed).
>negate AND destroy >instantly threatens one card going second >can just swap for something useful after you used it
It's kinda overtuned compared to most non accel synchros
>Generic omni negate in 3 summons which was previously impossible >Pop any card on the field including your own >Tag out into follow up or a cheesey floodgate monster
Both cards are bullshit and shouldnt exist. Generic cards should not be a powerful as either of them. Zeus in particular is lame because it makes Defense Mode even more of a useless liability.
The only issue I have with Zeus is the 3000 defense
3000 Attack is generally the limit for generic bosses with good effects, so how do you out Zeus by battle even if you negate its effects? You have to waste more than 2 cards to out the Zeus which is how much Zeus cost to make.
If it even had 2900 defense like nu Zeus it would be laughable to complain about. But with 3000 defense you can't ram into it to take it out.
baronne steps over a line that was crossed years ago by savage. it's not a relevant complaint. if they didn't hit savage and apo in their heyday they're not touching baronne nor should they. zeus on the other hand is omega aids. quick effects that aren't once per chain are a mistake. the existence of lightning storm already forces a capitulation in the form of defense mode which xyz get to feast on for free with zeus. truly the original Black person mechanic. all it does in the long run is make spot removal a necessity for end boards of combo decks going forward. hell, ada were already setting up masq + block into unicorn as early as day 1. soon enough they'll be making combo decks that can do that but without lightning storm vulnerability so they don't autolose to bazillion mat zeus.
Wakaushi turned Superheavy Samurai from a monster-only deck with a unique battle position gimmick into a generic build-a-board infinite material shitting wombo combo that ended on Baronne, Apo, Borreload Savage, etc etc and basically every SHS fan hated it because it robbed the deck of it's identity. Baronne's biggest design problem, and that of every generic ED boss, is that without prohibitive xenolocks every deck ends up feeling the same. Better a deck be bad and unique than meta and boring.
I think Zeus is necessary as one of the strongest go-second options, but that he's necessary highlights how strong going first is.
Baronne is too generic. Shouldn't be a thing.
I'm looking into buying the Traptrix SD, collection purposes only, and I wanted to import the OCG one, but I'm reading that five of its cards don't come in the SD and instead are in an included Invitation Pack. Just to be sure, am I guaranteed all five cards in that pack? Or will I get duplicates?
Oh cool, I just wanted to be sure, thanks. I could buy the TCG one but I'd rather get the uncensored cards and it feels like I get better value from the OCG one.
>FRICK KITKALOS AND FRICK SCHEIREN AND FRICK HAVNIS AND FRICK MERRLI AND FRICK RAYE AND FRICK ROZE AND FRICK VERRE AND FRICK HAINE AND FRICK GENNI AND FRICK EDEL AND FRICK YUKI ONNA AND FRICK SQUIRE AND FRICK TEARDROP AND FRICK SHEOU AND FRICK PARLOR AND FRICK CHAMBER AND FRICK KITCHEN AND FRICK NURSE AND FRICK KISIKIL AND FRICK LILLA AND FRICK SUNNY AND FRICK LUNA AND FRICK ELIS AND FRICK MARTHA AND FRICK STELLA AND FRICK IRENE AND FRICK SOPHIA AND FRICK LABRYNTH AND FRICK ARIANE AND FRICK ARIANNA AND FRICK ARIAS AND FRICK OOHIME AND FRICK HULI AND FRICK HARE AND FRICK NINI AND FRICK COOLIA AND FRICK ANGELO AND FRICK DEMONE AND FRICK PRIMERA AND FRICK TRUDEA TOTAL WAIFU DEATH
>Finally done with the event
That last win took me a stupidly long time to get. I guess cause I got impatient and started throwing to try and finish it faster / just quitting against annoying decks.
Anyways good luck to the rest of you.
They should let us choose one deck we don't want to play against, except our own
This event would be playable if not for the fact that lab trannies are in
How does that work?
Do you just craft a banned UR and then refund it till you get Royal or something, then keep repeating infinitely?
How are people not abusing the shit out of this?
You get the difference between whatever it was at and whatever it ends up at in refunds. So if you have 0 Rhongos and it's banned, you can craft 3 Rhongos to see if they're shiny, then dust them all with no cost. If one or more was shiny then you made a profit in resources.
You get the difference between whatever it was at and whatever it ends up at in refunds. So if you have 0 Rhongos and it's banned, you can craft 3 Rhongos to see if they're shiny, then dust them all with no cost. If one or more was shiny then you made a profit in resources.
Also, to be clear, people are abusing the shit out of it. If you haven't been exploiting this every ban list you've missed out.
Just discovered something beautiful today:
You actually CAN kill with Ring of Destruction.
The wording says "whose ATK is less than or EQUAL to their LP".
So you can kill if the monster you choose has ATK exactly equal to your opponent's LP.
(Good to keep in mind that cards always say "or equal", never just "less/more than")
i already topped tourneys playing admanciaptor, kinda played the deck to death and dont really care that block dragon is gone now. I am excited to try SHS when they come out.
Bros I'm addicted to playing Kashtira Runick, going first I banish key cards from the opponent deck or ED if they dare to handtrap me and going second I can just go battle phase summon Geri, crash to bait negates then evenly. This has been the best experience I ever had in Master 1.
I'm starting to get a little nervous about just how many people are bandwagoning onto Dragon Link.
I know MDM isn't representative of the overall ladder but now that Tear and Spright finally taking serious flack D Link looks to be the next in line for the chopping block. I think Runick Naturia might be the best move going forward but that's just me.
You won't run sprind and will instead run a synchro pile to get easier access to le mill dragon of eventual ban and slop baronne. That gives you 5 mills from kit, 5 mills from the remaining kelbek, 5 mills from chaos ruler which is still half the deck.
And that's before Kash tear.
There's still too many names.
Not that anon but I genuinely think that with this recent wave of hits, Spright is kind of dead as a stand-alone strategy. There just aren't enough cards to put up enough material to get the kind of end-boards the deck needs to survive Branded, D-Link, Swordsoul, or even the neutered Tear lists out there. With only 1 Swap Frog the frog package isn't really worth running, and you can't put up enough material to reliably end on I:P, Elf, the Melffy stuff, and Carrot or Red. You have to choose, and that means the opponent dealing with way less material.
As of next month, Spright will need supplementary engines to actually compete. Either the Runick Spright variants that were popular in the past, or Fur Hire, or Tri-Brigade. IMO Tri-Brigade is the best just because you can put up a lot of material for disruption, but has key weaknesses because you need to be able to see your Spright and Tri-Brigade cards. In pure Spright just getting a good normal summon from Swap Frog or Nimble Beaver was enough, not so with Tri-Spright.
First off there are other not as good engines like Deep Sea Diva and people will just have to run Pixies now. I agree this hits the deck in a good consistency way but I don't think it's dead or anything.
Deep Sea Diva is a good normal summon but doesn't give you the same number of materials on board as Swap Frog does, and that's the biggest issue. You can run a Yamatako Orochi to make a Baronne before 2-locking yourself in some hands, but that'll be rare especially with the consistency hits to the Spright cards.
I mean it's a hit, yeah. Personally I'm glad that they're dropping the power level of everything a few degrees. It was needed. Of course this is going to push Kash into tier 1 and maybe even tier 0 if they don't hit it with the second wave of support lmao
10 months ago
Anonymous
Diablosis to 1, thank you for playing master duel.
I guess this is a rotation those yugitubers were talking about.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Man I know it's getting either to 1 or banned and it sucks.
I love the card. I play it in my red-eyes deck. Slamming it down after my opponent uses one of the banish pots is so satisfying. Or if their deck relies on 1 Ed card to get things going.
Whoever printed Shangri Ira to not be limited per turn is a moron. It's just asking for trouble. Even if it was 3 times per turn that would be fine.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I hope they murder Kashtira in cold blood like they did in the OCG. Keeping 1 Fenrir legal is probably fine but if they leave Diablosis legal with Ariseheart then we'll be in for a miserable time. Thankfully the card is only an SR so I can see Konami getting rid of it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Look I'm going to be blunt. We're getting at least a few months of Diablosis legal because it pushes Kash hard AND it requires everyone to craft multiples of important cards that would normally be one offs of.
There's no way israelitenami would pass on that
10 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sure crafting a second zeus (the only relevant extra deck card to out a kashtira board for most of the decks) is going to do a lot in MD. Limited list? Never heard of it.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Force players to craft Change of Heart and Triple Tactics so you can steal Arise-Heart and make Zeus
10 months ago
Anonymous
Your one of limited zeus will be gone before you can drop any of those two.
10 months ago
Anonymous
If only Zeus was the only card like that
10 months ago
Anonymous
LIMIT
BIRTH
WE’RE NOT LIKE OTHER LISTS
10 months ago
Anonymous
kash can stay as long as the fishwomen deck is still somewhat playable
once every maindeck tear name is banned kash can go
10 months ago
Anonymous
>kash can stay as long as the fishwomen deck is still somewhat playable
We can ban Kash then. Tear is unplayable after this list.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I wouldn't say unplayable, but definitely less braindead because they now have to carefully choose what to summon with their two remaining fusions, and that if Scheiren/Havnis don't get negated. Expect Grief to be mained from here on to try to improve their already fragile consistency.
Also, we're still missing Tearlaments Kashtira.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Almost 0 play during opp turn unless you open the perfect 5 cardhand. Two fusion at most on your turn. Lose to a single bystial. It's now a deck that setup two interruption in their turn at most (which is already unlikely) and has little to no ability to do more after passing. Theres a reason the other banlist never banned the fusionnists. It's dead Jimmy, let it go.
10 months ago
Anonymous
I really don't agree with this just because, if Tear is at a reasonable power level it's actually not bad to play against. Kashtira is basically never fun to play against, especially with Diablosis giving them an extra mill condition, removing your boss monster, and a 9 zone lock setup. There's a reason that Master Duel had to limit most floodgates. Certain strategies aren't banned because they're overwhelmingly strong (Though full power Kash is an over-centralizing deck) but also because they're fricking annoying and unfun to play against. Most Kash games from it's hayday were complete blowouts on either side. Either you opened Droll/Nibiru or a kaiju/golem/sphere mode, or you started your first turn with 9 of your zones locked, half your deck banished FD, and with no boss monster. Just a miserable format.
10 months ago
Anonymous
unlike tear, kash dies to most boardbreakers and kaijus
10 months ago
Anonymous
That is what he is saying. The games just become draw the out or get blown out.
10 months ago
Anonymous
its the same thing against tear >don't draw Dshifter and lose
kash has more outs compared to tear
10 months ago
Anonymous
That's true but it's not a good thing. It's like the Drytron format where, if you went second, you either opened the Kaiju/Droplet or just lost. But if you did open the out, you basically won right then and there. But that's not fun. Tear is strong, but I've been able to have some genuine back and forth with the deck, neither side instantly winning because they got lucky enough to draw the right card. Yugioh is a game that involves chance, but it isn't like Blackjack or Poker where chance determines the majority of games. Yugioh is a game of skill, and hitting my opponent with Droll or Sphere Mode isn't skillful. Nor is it particularly fun.
10 months ago
Anonymous
>Tear apologists still going
Your fish are getting gutted by konami and I'm going to enjoy every second of it.
rockeks have been real quiet since block dragon got banned
what's the matter? I should be seeing a bunch of smug posts by now like usual. where are they at?
Ishizus got hit again. My trap monster list is gonna lose it's secondary wincon (mill) that only comes up once every 10 games or so and also reduce its recycling with kelbek. It got murdered before its new support got the chance to arrive
>Exchange of the spirit/Gravekeeper's Trap lock gets harder as well
Not only can you not run pure Ishizu as your main wincon (you haven't been able to for a while) but even having an Ishizu package in your deck just makes it worse since it's so sparse now.
>People still won't drop the deck because why buy anything new when you can just keep trying to use old cards.
wtf Rotationgays we're right all along!?!
Stubbornly clinging on to dated strategies because you love a set of cards is a core part of what makes Yugioh such a great game. I would quit immediately if my dangers rotated out.
Even if you don't go for the FTK SHS has enough combos through handtraps to end on Apollousa, Baronne, bullshit. Also SHS is playing around 20 monster handtraps.
Can it play under shifter, Maxx "C" or Droll? The answer is no. There are a lot of decks that are good in theory (or in paper yugioh) but suck in MD, this will be one of those.
10 months ago
Anonymous
any format that needs to main droll is toxic as shit
10 months ago
Anonymous
>any format that needs to main Maxx C is toxic as shit
Fixed that for you
10 months ago
Anonymous
Absolutely yes. It can put up Baronne through shifter and you can have your whole deck in your hand for all I care. I've got spell canceler or exterio backing up my baronne, regulus and appalousa. The real thing has already steamrolled your game theory.
10 months ago
Anonymous
Seems like you don't really play MD. If that deck is as good as you are telling me it's going to become meta and by that people will start to main deck kaiju, lava golem and going second cards in general or counters to that deck and unlike tear or runick that deck doesn't get to mess out with the opponent deck so I think it's not a big deal to break or prevent those end boards. If the deck becomes a real problem I trust Konami to kill it.
It already dominated the tcg in a handtrap heavy format and needed an emergency hit. Good luck drawing your handtrap. If you don't I instantly win and if you do I play through it and still end on 4 negates and probably a spell canceler/exterio.
Using Block Dragon to set up Pachy locks behind a dozen negates. The card had to go, it was way too good to exist alongside a viable earth/rock strategy. Adamancipators is still plenty playable without it. IMO Branded wasn't even the third best deck these past few months but they hit Branded Fusion too, current deck performance doesn't really dictate hits.
>Adamancipators is still plenty playable without it.
Said no one ever. What are you going to do without block? Drop your whole hand to pass on a spell negate and if you open godlike, Baronne? So playable.
>What are you going to do without block?
Dilators can't do anything now, but I think they could do something if Redox came back, in conjunction with Rock/Naturia/Vernusylph piles.
Redox is cope of course, but I can see ways for the deck to be playble if you really like the archetype.
Adams have to pivot away from Build-a-Board combos because they no longer have access to functionally infinite material via Block Dragon and now have to actually play with the tools the deck was designed with, how horrifying. The Vernusylph engine is unironically enough, alongside other powerful rock type combo tools and extenders, to keep the deck playable. It was a contender in the TCG without Block Dragon and it'll continue to be a contender in Master Duel.
tell me you don't play the deck without telling me you don't play the deck. dillators without BD get one synchro climb and maybe one link monster if they're lucky, this is nowhere near "contender", have you see the insane shit that flies around today? have you seen dragon link, the current best combo deck? (and this, even with block unbanned) you don't know what you're talking about.
>bwoos my honest +3 searches infinite body is honest why ban it!
Half the banlist are worse cards than block dragon, and that's not counting the garbage cards banned purely for FTK reasons. Block is one of the stupidest cards ever made, Painful Choice levels of stupid.
Are you serious? Not only did they lose two more miller cards leaving them with only one Kelbek, but they lost Merrli, the only Tears girl with a normal summon effect, the most preferred Kitkalos target and a whole GY fusion, leaving them now with the inability of summoning both Rullkalos and Kaleido-Heart in the same turn unless they pack generic fusion cards. Put it into perspective, they just went from 6 to 4 cards that can GY fusion.
>since the beginning I've been saying that block, dragon ruler of legos would eventually get banned >Everyone called me a schizo >Now it's finally gone
You owe me an apology, block dragon is a stupid card that should never have been printed, same as branded fusion that finally got limited
i am usually not in agreement with the "BAN BAN BAN BAN" boomer tier complaining but i agree with them on banning all the ishizu cards. they should of never been printed.
People say that for any card that send a decent amount of cards from deck to gy. Maybe the issue is with how easy it is to play from the gy to begin with. Remember when it was a zombie thing, and not a normal thing that every deck does?
>morons pretending that kash is worse than tear
lets the average turn 1 against tear >summon starter that activates its effect >get hit with havnis which then goes into full tear combo
lets see the average turn 1 against kash >do your entire turn in peace because no kash maindeck monster has a handtrap effect that gives them access to full combo
>even under shifter you still get to do your turn
y-yeah haha. I don’t think I play a single deck that doesn’t pass to shifter. I’d rather them make fricking winda on my turn.
The Merrli hit is going to be devastating until Tearlaments Kashtira comes out.
You can replace her in the hand with Reasoning, I think with Tearlaments Kashtira Tears will still have a strong go-first game but their turn 0 plays are basically dead.
>but their turn 0 plays are basically dead.
Fricking good. No deck should have turn 0 plays unless it's specifically a dogshit archetype that needs it.
Tear Kash doesn't fusion so it doesn't fix shit. Merrli it isn't bad because of the mill being worse. It's bad because your endboard is shit, you lose access to spright protection and recover, and get destroyed by anything that can stop your first fusion. Milling more isn't going to help with any of that shit.
There's two ways that Tears can go from here, either double down on mass milling or focus on foolishing to guarntee the Tear fusions.
If you focus on foolishing, you open yourself up to chokepoints, mainly being Reinoheart and Kit getting imperm'd.
Tearlaments Kashtira and Reasoning at least gives Tears the extra mill power without bricking too hard but the deck can still lose hard to two Bystials even with a successful mill.
Mill or sending isn't the issue. Learn to read Black person. The deck has no decent end board with only two fusion and no access to elf/sprind plays. And again, stopping only one of the fusion mean passing on an empty board or set one trap, normal a tear name, and pray.
No Silva means you have to make actual endboards going first. Some people go for Ido lock, but I have been sending EEV off of curious and bringing it back with knightmare gryphon to end on EEV and a leftover large dude to trigger it + grapha + 4 mat apo. Oh yeah and it’s incredibly fun to make Coach King Giantrainer 10/10 card.
Going 2nd you have like no room for nonengine besides maybe a few kaijus or lava golem, but it’s pretty fun to just brute force through your opponent’s shit by summoning large dudes. Due to no handtraps you can sometimes get fricked by super combo decks or FTKs though. Also you cannot beat the anti-tear macro floodgate shit.
Overall fun deck if you like to a lot of draw cards. A lot of times your t1 plays will leave you with like 5 cards in deck.
Not really. Try it on EDO. I thought it would be much more interesting than it turned out to be. Dangers are inherently fun but the Dark World really brings down the mood.
Nothing is more annoying that knowing you can deck someone out when you get maxx c but instead your opponent has over half of their deck dedicated to handtraps. I got ash blossomed, Effect Veiler x2, Ghost Ogre, Ghost Belle, and double Imperm before I ran out of gas and my opponent still had 18 cards in deck.
The deck was literally Kashtira + handtraps/kaijus only.
Best banlist ever in MD, except for Branded Fusion to 1. The deck would be struggling even if Aluber, Opening, and Branded Fusion were all at 3. Completely unwarranted. I wouldn't care if Aluber and Opening were at 3 but alltogether it's really bullshit.
>Completely unwarranted.
No it wasn't you stupid Black person. The deck's been around too long.
No you don't. Branded Fusion alone is a weak opener, it's only a really good card when you open Aluber or Aluber + Branded Fusion. Again, Branded Fusion to 1 is fair, because we can also recycle it but the consistency hits were adding up and this is the nail before the nail in the coffin.
>my brandon deck full of 1 card combos that makes very strong boards while having midrange-tier recursion and generating advantage 24/7 and having a billion floats shouldnt be hit
Yes it should
It's so based. I'm also building Kash when wave 2 comes out and playing it until Arise-Heart is banned. Feels like it's been a year of graveyard slop between grass PUNK LBTGQIA+ piles and Tear.
Could anything even fix them? They're probably the most "era specific" archetype ever designed. They're slow, xenophobic, rely entirely on generic floodgates, and quite literally have no going second plays.
>Duel arena >Official Yugioh TCG simulator
There was another official yugioh sim before Master Duel? What happened to it? Why did they make MD instead?
I'm actually athinking about dusting my tears deck and go full swordsoul.
With Merril banned tears is going to be suck ass.
Only 2 fusions per turn? Really?
Man Master Duel threads really are the only threads that stay mostly in topic thesee days. I need to stop venturing out into Ganker. Stay away from American politics, lads. That shit will rot your brain
there isn't a single thread worth going to on Ganker for video game discussion other than this one, and thats pretty depressing considering the quality of these threads isnt all that good sometimes
>farfa mad about the hits to grass, agido, and block dragon >all millBlack person cards
well that explains a lot. so he's just another one of those "cards I like good, cards I don't like bad" morons for banlist takes
surprised he doesn't post on Ganker, he'd fit right in
I give you one of the jankiest homebrews ever, kashtira umi, essentially you are aiming to get the kayryushin lock but now you can supplement it with kashtira to be even more of a c**t, the deck playstyle is slow enough to let kash ogre shine, taking away garnets and any top deck your opponent could have used to out the lock, plus it being water comes handy a lot of the times. meanwhile kash fenrir is generic utility and can protect the lock from lava golem due to it being EARTH, realistically you can cut out preparations and raiho, whale floating into it almost never happen, I still find it fun to summon it with jellyfish, an endboard of fenrir + raiho + jellyfish under legendary ocean is fun as balls. does it bricks? yes, is it funny to pull off? hell yes, and thats what this game is all about, love to make other players suffer
Frick that Black person, he's been shitting up random games for the last year and a half, and that's a year and a half too long. "What if we made a monster with insanely strong effects, then made a dozen ways to cheat it out AND stop it from ever losing those effects" What if I killed you what about that
I can see a possible future where Cooclock gets limited if enough people b***h and moan about handrips, other than that there's no reason whatsoever to hit Labrynth.
I'd still run two even without Bystials, it's always good to have a higher chance to have it in my opening hand so I can dedicate my searches to something else.
how do these refunds work?
If i waste now 90 UR on some card that is going to be banned next month I'm just going to get all 90 UR back?
Automatically?
adamancipator is a tier 5 petdeck that is barely playable above gold yet it was the only deck butchered on the list? worst list ever. this is a new low for even konami. frick this shit garbage game
fair enough, probably was some fisherman locals. That doesn't change the fact that gamblebrained shit also featuring Block Dragon recursion and a handrip is still a good deck.
10 months ago
Anonymous
ive played it before tear was out(not with shs being legal ofc) i just hat playing decks that auto lose to the roach now.
Frick this event. Says a lot when you queue and it takes 20 seconds to get matched. One of the biggest non-Duelist Cup pieces of shit for sure. Frick Light/Dark decks.
>wake up and find a semi competent banlist
also not enough tear names banned
HE NEXT IN LINE TO GET BANNED
>dissed best banlist ever in MD history
>proposing a bad ban target
thanks god this guy is not working there
saryuja has never done anything honest in his life
he's always in some degenerate ftk deck like bishbaalkin
He's just going second extension. Perfectly honest.
>banning merli to avoid banning elf or giving any UR refund
Fricking genius.
I think it's really funny. Elf and Sprind both are no nowhere near as good outside of Sprights so really this boosts how long Spright will be live for.
Theyll live until jet is banned and blue at 1. So two banlist top.
Why should Saryuja get banned?
my poor megalith fossil deck
>For once a actual okay banlist
What happened?
Slipped out of clown world for a second. Pretty nice. MD actually banning an Ishizu card makes me happy.
I'm guessing Dragon Link is going to be the best deck now
Good thing nobody who plays master duel can play it well
block dragon did nothing wrong
Merril only got banned to make space for KashTear
Borrelend rules this game now.
shut the frick up, revolver
anyway set albaz, fuse your whole board.
no response because you dont get any
I have never lost a game where a branded player did that to me.
They have no follow up and druiswurm just trades for lenatus.
Activate I:P
Response?
not enough spright hits
so will Tear just be a meme soon? please say yes
No longer tier 1, which means no one will play it. It's still good enough for ladder, but it was an NPC deck, so all npcs will now abandon ship. The good think about D-Link, is that even if it's the best deck, most people won't play it, because it's not moron friendly.
>so will Tear just be a meme soon? please say yes
Not a meme, but
>no elf, spring
>no diviner to mill ishizu because it is a brick
>cannot fusion like crazy since they lost a main deck
>Lol miller to 1
Yeah yeah, Kash tear. What's the point of Kash tear if you don't have shit to mill?
No, Japan is hyper obsessed with it and will play it for eternity.
Ban list is looking so good. I'm crafting Dragon Link this evening bros. I'm finally taking the plunge.
Now hit Dragon Link,
That deck has been powercrept like most of the 2019 format.
>power creeping the most supported monster type
What the frick did he mean by this? That's like saying the dark attribute has been powercrept. Dragon pile is literally a forever main stay.
We havent gotten good generic DRAGON support for a while. Being able to steal from chaos support is what keep them going.
Bsytials
>literally won both paper and MD wolrds
>powercrept
lmao
It's hilarious that they can completely kill tear without hitting a single SR or UR. If, by some miracle, it still manages to be top tier with Kash Tear, they can just kill Havnis next and the deck dies forever without any refunds.
>Yes, kitkallos will NEVER be banned
>HOWEVER
monkey's paw is real if that happens
>If, by some miracle, it still manages to be top tier with Kash Tear
There's still a bunch of tear support lined up, don't you worry. The deck isn't going anywhere.
Did Merrli deserve to be old yeller’d over kitkat?
Yes, she was a prostitute who let spright into the deck.
MERRLI LOST, RADORI WON
Grass was one of these cards I never expected to be hit, I imagined that konami loved to pander to gacha gambling addicts by keeping this card around
Exo sisters… The tear menace has been defeated once and for all but now we’ve lost our purpose too
Exosisters became unplayable the second fenrir released. The deck is too xenophobic, can't use any good tech or cards in it. Can't use Fenrir, or Kash counters like Kuri Kara or Nib or Kaijus. The deck was always on a timer for death once Kash was released. It's only purpose and window for playability was during tear dominance.
>The tear menace has been defeated once and for all
lol
lmao even
You guys are still playing this dogshit? The current format is unplayable. Don’t you get bored of handtraps and the turn flip determining whether you win?
>muh handtraps
kys boomer
Hand traps and coin flip complaints in the same sentence, my brain hurts
Those aren't mutually exclusive. The fact that the game boils down to either going first or pray you drew handtraps is dire. And even then, handtraps are just as likely to make your opponents turn 1 game state even more oppressive if they manage to draw some.
Hand traps are cancer that enables the game's worst habits, while having the gall to pretend like they're a band-aid solution to them.
>You guys are still playing this dogshit?
Agreed.
Pokemon is much better, especially without handtraps and games decided by the coinflip
>pokemon
>no coinflips
seethe brainlet
>finally nadir to 3
oh yeah we churchin
>mfw dust my third copy year ago.
Why? Im so high on copium I still have 2 halq
We can unban the toad now. Shark and Marincess players rejoice!
not until they nuked the whole sprights. next ban gigantic please
>We can unban the toad
HA HA no
>Toad unbanned
Reprodocus declare Water
Floow runback when? Empen did nothing wrong.
Your deck will continue to get hit on every banlist. Accept it.
Bullshit, everyone else gets their broken tools; NOOT NOOT was a necessary evil.
>Traptrix mirror
>none of our traps work
>we spend several turns just smash smol bug girls into each other
>eventually make Accesschud and end the game
It's always amusing when your worst opponent is yourself.
FREE HIM
>Sarcophagus on legs
No.
>level 7+ DARK Dragon
More ways to search Lubellion or CED Armageddon
>semi-limiting extrav
Why?
Soft hit to lab.
To prevent morons from playing 3. Based Konami teaching shit players how to build.
fianlly someone else that realises 2 is optimal always
Shit gets limited all the time in events. Maybe Konami wants to save some program inputs by making it permanent.
It's just free draws for archetypes that don't care about their Extra Decks.
Yet another floo hit. Why does konami hate floo so much?
>Normal Summon stacking so it dodges Maxx
>Self-banishing so it dodges grave interaction
>Incredibly easy to splash monster based floodgates into thanks to being tribute focused
>Recursive as frick so they're almost always guaranteed to get their loop
Floow is simply too good at exploiting its niche.
Maxx C tax
so players can no longer choose to play 0 ED or N/R ED. the aim is that everyone need at least 10 URs in their ED
Only ever used in stun decks.
that would be card of demise
people will just replace third extrav with prosperity
Now you can't extrav draw 2 extrav.
One of Konamis MD lead devs is a Kashtira fanboy and still anal pained about Lab topping in paper tourneys against Kashtira with lucky hands. They're so mad that they won't even understand Lab can only top because of 3x Skill Drain
Don't most topping lab lists only run it at 1x though? I saw the EU list with 1, and most OCG lists with none in favor of Transaction Rollback.
who cares what "professional" yugioh players are doing
I mean, in the context of the post I was replying to he was discussing a dev being mad about "Lab topping against Kashtira" in tourneys and claimed it was because of Skill Drain 3x.
So I would assume the anon I was replying to cares.
>event is lab subhumans yet again
No wonder I can't find games
>DLink wins worlds
>now the best deck in MD
oh man this is gonna suck watching people flock to this deck
also rip once again homies ruining my boney deck
DLink has the same or more number of hits on the ban list as tear. Leave it alone.
And 5 times more support.
Tick tock homosexual, you're the new adamantroons defending your obvious overpowered crutch (magic ruler).
You can ban chaos ruler in exchange for freeing agarpain Y/N?
Best I can do is ruler to 0, baby dragons to 1, chaos space to 1, striker dragon to 1.
Honestly the only one that would hurt is the chaos space hit, the rest is fixed by regained or running the pendulum CED.
I didn't say I want the deck dead, just not top tier anymore. It has been on top for far too long. They can easily kill the deck just by destroying all its ED (Romulus, borrelend, pisty) , since any main deck hit can be remedied by another replacement.
>hanging out in furry artist’s Picarto watching him draw boobs
>we start talking about nerd hobbies
>he brings up MTG
>i bring up Yugioh
>says MTG has way better gameplay than Yugioh
>proceeds to stop the stream to show us his furry deck full of dog cards, which he calls doggos
Should I bother trying current MTG or should I just assume it’s a tunnel vision thing and skip it?
kys homosexual
I think you should have a nice day
Magic is the better game and has way better gameplay, he's not wrong. Yugioh has better art (in modern day) and the best client so that's why I play it more.
If Arena had MDs economy I'd have dropped MD by now.
>If Arena had MDs economy I'd have dropped MD by now.
wish it did too. To get rid of homosexuals like you.
I hope they study and disscect your brain when you have a nice day to figure out why anyone would be territorial about a fricking card game.
I'll kick homosexual out of my sight anywhere they are, not only in card games, sorry gay.
kill him
>listening to a furry's opinion
kys immediately
Kit did nothing wrong.
I feel bad for her.
I didn't expect them to ban Block Dragon, but what I don't understand is why it took them so long.
Super heavy Samurais on October
This is the top 10 most played cards in the entire game. See any of them in the new banlist?
Elf will dissappear form the list.
No one here actually thinks baronne and zeus are unfair right?
Zeus is fricking stupid. Any XYZ going into battle phase becoming a board wipe is just awful.
The battlephase is the most irrelevant part of modern yugioh and you want to remove the only meta card left in existence that involves the battlephase?
Just frick off already.
Fenrir made the battle phase matter again
Zeus is bullshit just because a full field clear shouldn't be that easy to set-up. Baronne is fine though
They're supremely unfun however.
Baronne is absolutely unfair and absolute shit card design.
Zeus's effect is unfair, but the card is fine overall because it's designed around having a battle phase and creating longer games (if you Zeus going second, your opponent has a turn 3 guaranteed).
>Baronne is absolutely unfair and absolute shit card design.
ONE (1) negate
moron
The negate isn't the problem, it's how generic it is which just gives Synchro Spam even more tools to end on.
>it's how generic
A level 10 synchro isn't generic.
It should require one synchro non tuner and a tuner for that many effects.
Look at hot red or the quasar variants
>A level 10 synchro isn't generic
I heard you can synchro lv10 without a tuner
That's attribute locked.
>negate AND destroy
>instantly threatens one card going second
>can just swap for something useful after you used it
It's kinda overtuned compared to most non accel synchros
>Generic omni negate in 3 summons which was previously impossible
>Pop any card on the field including your own
>Tag out into follow up or a cheesey floodgate monster
Nice webm of you.
>which was previously impossible
enter
>Negates your own shit
You're right, this card is terrible.
I bet it never saw competitive play in the past.
baronne is bullshit
zeus is fine
I didn't really care until I started getting hit with the combo
>talents steal my xyz boss monster go into Zeus
now I mald a little bit
Baronne's not really unfair but it changed the game for the worse and shouldn't exist.
Both cards are bullshit and shouldnt exist. Generic cards should not be a powerful as either of them. Zeus in particular is lame because it makes Defense Mode even more of a useless liability.
They would be fine, if they weren't so generic.
The only issue I have with Zeus is the 3000 defense
3000 Attack is generally the limit for generic bosses with good effects, so how do you out Zeus by battle even if you negate its effects? You have to waste more than 2 cards to out the Zeus which is how much Zeus cost to make.
If it even had 2900 defense like nu Zeus it would be laughable to complain about. But with 3000 defense you can't ram into it to take it out.
>The only issue I have with Zeus is the 3000 defense
>3000 Attack
JUST DESTROY IT WITH A CARD EFFECT, BABOON
baronne steps over a line that was crossed years ago by savage. it's not a relevant complaint. if they didn't hit savage and apo in their heyday they're not touching baronne nor should they. zeus on the other hand is omega aids. quick effects that aren't once per chain are a mistake. the existence of lightning storm already forces a capitulation in the form of defense mode which xyz get to feast on for free with zeus. truly the original Black person mechanic. all it does in the long run is make spot removal a necessity for end boards of combo decks going forward. hell, ada were already setting up masq + block into unicorn as early as day 1. soon enough they'll be making combo decks that can do that but without lightning storm vulnerability so they don't autolose to bazillion mat zeus.
Baronne is cringe because it turns every synchro deck into Baronne turbo.
As oppose to being dogshit
That's the same argument for Halq propping up archetypes
Wakaushi turned Superheavy Samurai from a monster-only deck with a unique battle position gimmick into a generic build-a-board infinite material shitting wombo combo that ended on Baronne, Apo, Borreload Savage, etc etc and basically every SHS fan hated it because it robbed the deck of it's identity. Baronne's biggest design problem, and that of every generic ED boss, is that without prohibitive xenolocks every deck ends up feeling the same. Better a deck be bad and unique than meta and boring.
>every SHS fan hated it
homie what fan did SHS have
Me. Big numbers make me happy.
those homies that would make that big frick train and hit you twice and win
i am now a SHS fan post wakushi
same I like aids combo decks
Remember the adventurer rose tenyi shit? 10/10 deck, I played the shit out of that.
Zeus is perfectly fair. Baronne is not.
I think Zeus is necessary as one of the strongest go-second options, but that he's necessary highlights how strong going first is.
Baronne is too generic. Shouldn't be a thing.
Thanks for the 180 UR dust
>He thinks he's getting a full refund for these
oh no no no nobody tell him
>Forgot to put Konami on my name
My shitpost...
ruined...
I pulled six sales ban while fishing for Umi stuff.
I stopped playing the game after that.
Our Heroes.
And also Martha, Sophia and Elis are there too I guess
>Wake up
>Merryl banned
Laundry won
made for snu snu
I used to think that Drident Revolt and DDL Pass was an FTK.
I'm looking into buying the Traptrix SD, collection purposes only, and I wanted to import the OCG one, but I'm reading that five of its cards don't come in the SD and instead are in an included Invitation Pack. Just to be sure, am I guaranteed all five cards in that pack? Or will I get duplicates?
you get all 5 in that bonus pack
one of them will be secret rare while the rest is UR foiling. what you get in secret rarity is random
Oh cool, I just wanted to be sure, thanks. I could buy the TCG one but I'd rather get the uncensored cards and it feels like I get better value from the OCG one.
in case you want to watch someone opening multiple pack
He won.
He is fricking dead. He didn't win anything.
I will force him to read books
>FRICK KITKALOS AND FRICK SCHEIREN AND FRICK HAVNIS AND FRICK MERRLI AND FRICK RAYE AND FRICK ROZE AND FRICK VERRE AND FRICK HAINE AND FRICK GENNI AND FRICK EDEL AND FRICK YUKI ONNA AND FRICK SQUIRE AND FRICK TEARDROP AND FRICK SHEOU AND FRICK PARLOR AND FRICK CHAMBER AND FRICK KITCHEN AND FRICK NURSE AND FRICK KISIKIL AND FRICK LILLA AND FRICK SUNNY AND FRICK LUNA AND FRICK ELIS AND FRICK MARTHA AND FRICK STELLA AND FRICK IRENE AND FRICK SOPHIA AND FRICK LABRYNTH AND FRICK ARIANE AND FRICK ARIANNA AND FRICK ARIAS AND FRICK OOHIME AND FRICK HULI AND FRICK HARE AND FRICK NINI AND FRICK COOLIA AND FRICK ANGELO AND FRICK DEMONE AND FRICK PRIMERA AND FRICK TRUDEA TOTAL WAIFU DEATH
>Finally done with the event
That last win took me a stupidly long time to get. I guess cause I got impatient and started throwing to try and finish it faster / just quitting against annoying decks.
Anyways good luck to the rest of you.
They should let us choose one deck we don't want to play against, except our own
This event would be playable if not for the fact that lab trannies are in
>player search timed out yet again
NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY WITH LAB KONAMI
For the record we haven't reach peak Tear copium until decks are running Needlebug Nest
If they hit all the main deck that can fusion there's nothing good left to mill, moron.
Punk Tear tier one baby
I like how Dragon Link is untouched
Grass is a bit hit to the best Dragon Link lists
Bystials do more for the deck then mills
Will you Black folk really craft 3 rhongos and one of the other stuff while hoping it ends up shiny?
I won't because I'm poor but it's not a bad idea.
>not wanting free UR CPs
How does that work?
Do you just craft a banned UR and then refund it till you get Royal or something, then keep repeating infinitely?
How are people not abusing the shit out of this?
There was a webm of some anon doing it with union carrier and he got it all refunded.
You get the difference between whatever it was at and whatever it ends up at in refunds. So if you have 0 Rhongos and it's banned, you can craft 3 Rhongos to see if they're shiny, then dust them all with no cost. If one or more was shiny then you made a profit in resources.
Also, to be clear, people are abusing the shit out of it. If you haven't been exploiting this every ban list you've missed out.
>rhongo ban
whats next? banning exodia or final countdown?
I always imagined block dragon being big as frick
we don't got agido...
Wow, an actually decent banlist for once.
Just discovered something beautiful today:
You actually CAN kill with Ring of Destruction.
The wording says "whose ATK is less than or EQUAL to their LP".
So you can kill if the monster you choose has ATK exactly equal to your opponent's LP.
(Good to keep in mind that cards always say "or equal", never just "less/more than")
Vernusylphs will save them. trust
Enjoying flushing your entire hand down the toilet to summon one shitty rock
They turbo out the burial statue
Does Branded to 1 even do anything
Isn't it searchable by half the deck
Duragon Rink will never fall to the ban list. It has too many options to adapt.
>ban your link 1
Konami would never
Bro just Kaiju the Zeus
Bro just Kaiju the Baronne
KEK
I don't get how people don't understand how Jet Dragon works yet. Blue Eyes is such a brain dead deck
>they still sincerely believe Kitkallos and Elf with be banned
You were 100% saying that about Block Dragon too.
Kitkallos is SR because they fully intend to ban it in the future.
They are both way less stupid without Merli
Now to ban Diviner
elf will be banned sooner or later
jewnami didn't touch it since they still need to sell picrel
I can't wait to Gish
How do i play gish after their support
IT THAT A LEVEL 2 MONSTER THAT SUMMONS A LEVEL 2?
Standard Spright endboard plus the big Ritual fishwoman omni-negate
>he thinks halq will get banned
>they're not banning VFD you morons, it's a UR
adamanshit deserved it
i already topped tourneys playing admanciaptor, kinda played the deck to death and dont really care that block dragon is gone now. I am excited to try SHS when they come out.
Free her
Ban Elf
Your ritualposts killed her
Now please start ritual posting Kitkallos, Elf, Branded Fusion & Diablosis
have a nice day moron
The ban list is great, but they are so slow on it most players have already left that even care. They really need to be quicker.
Most players would have already left during the Drytroon "you can't do anything without a Kaiju" meta
Bros I'm addicted to playing Kashtira Runick, going first I banish key cards from the opponent deck or ED if they dare to handtrap me and going second I can just go battle phase summon Geri, crash to bait negates then evenly. This has been the best experience I ever had in Master 1.
lol konami is just phasing out the "old meta"
Don't kid yourself
Total Kitkat Life
uhh, crowbros?
I love how so many decks actually can't out him.
Black person
Don't they run a Kaiju for small world bridge?
When's ariseheart coming so I can build a tear rape deck to assfrick anyone still trying to play it after the banlist?
>Frogs not yet free
Shit game
I'm starting to get a little nervous about just how many people are bandwagoning onto Dragon Link.
I know MDM isn't representative of the overall ladder but now that Tear and Spright finally taking serious flack D Link looks to be the next in line for the chopping block. I think Runick Naturia might be the best move going forward but that's just me.
>I think Runick Naturia
Fountain to 1 soon.
It's more likely to go to 3 than 1
Tear is still going to be the best deck.
I'm more happy about the branded fusion to 1. Frick that reddit deck.
you underestimate the merrli hit.
You won't run sprind and will instead run a synchro pile to get easier access to le mill dragon of eventual ban and slop baronne. That gives you 5 mills from kit, 5 mills from the remaining kelbek, 5 mills from chaos ruler which is still half the deck.
And that's before Kash tear.
There's still too many names.
What's the point of milling that hard for no Merlin fusion?
Bricking on Shaddolls and hoping Konami isn’t stupid enough to unban Glow-Up Bulb
Glow-up won't do shit and Revolution Synchron is outright better than it. It can come back at 1
t. spright downplayer
Not that anon but I genuinely think that with this recent wave of hits, Spright is kind of dead as a stand-alone strategy. There just aren't enough cards to put up enough material to get the kind of end-boards the deck needs to survive Branded, D-Link, Swordsoul, or even the neutered Tear lists out there. With only 1 Swap Frog the frog package isn't really worth running, and you can't put up enough material to reliably end on I:P, Elf, the Melffy stuff, and Carrot or Red. You have to choose, and that means the opponent dealing with way less material.
As of next month, Spright will need supplementary engines to actually compete. Either the Runick Spright variants that were popular in the past, or Fur Hire, or Tri-Brigade. IMO Tri-Brigade is the best just because you can put up a lot of material for disruption, but has key weaknesses because you need to be able to see your Spright and Tri-Brigade cards. In pure Spright just getting a good normal summon from Swap Frog or Nimble Beaver was enough, not so with Tri-Spright.
First off there are other not as good engines like Deep Sea Diva and people will just have to run Pixies now. I agree this hits the deck in a good consistency way but I don't think it's dead or anything.
Deep Sea Diva is a good normal summon but doesn't give you the same number of materials on board as Swap Frog does, and that's the biggest issue. You can run a Yamatako Orochi to make a Baronne before 2-locking yourself in some hands, but that'll be rare especially with the consistency hits to the Spright cards.
I mean it's a hit, yeah. Personally I'm glad that they're dropping the power level of everything a few degrees. It was needed. Of course this is going to push Kash into tier 1 and maybe even tier 0 if they don't hit it with the second wave of support lmao
Diablosis to 1, thank you for playing master duel.
I guess this is a rotation those yugitubers were talking about.
Man I know it's getting either to 1 or banned and it sucks.
I love the card. I play it in my red-eyes deck. Slamming it down after my opponent uses one of the banish pots is so satisfying. Or if their deck relies on 1 Ed card to get things going.
Whoever printed Shangri Ira to not be limited per turn is a moron. It's just asking for trouble. Even if it was 3 times per turn that would be fine.
I hope they murder Kashtira in cold blood like they did in the OCG. Keeping 1 Fenrir legal is probably fine but if they leave Diablosis legal with Ariseheart then we'll be in for a miserable time. Thankfully the card is only an SR so I can see Konami getting rid of it.
Look I'm going to be blunt. We're getting at least a few months of Diablosis legal because it pushes Kash hard AND it requires everyone to craft multiples of important cards that would normally be one offs of.
There's no way israelitenami would pass on that
I'm sure crafting a second zeus (the only relevant extra deck card to out a kashtira board for most of the decks) is going to do a lot in MD. Limited list? Never heard of it.
Force players to craft Change of Heart and Triple Tactics so you can steal Arise-Heart and make Zeus
Your one of limited zeus will be gone before you can drop any of those two.
If only Zeus was the only card like that
LIMIT
BIRTH
WE’RE NOT LIKE OTHER LISTS
kash can stay as long as the fishwomen deck is still somewhat playable
once every maindeck tear name is banned kash can go
>kash can stay as long as the fishwomen deck is still somewhat playable
We can ban Kash then. Tear is unplayable after this list.
I wouldn't say unplayable, but definitely less braindead because they now have to carefully choose what to summon with their two remaining fusions, and that if Scheiren/Havnis don't get negated. Expect Grief to be mained from here on to try to improve their already fragile consistency.
Also, we're still missing Tearlaments Kashtira.
Almost 0 play during opp turn unless you open the perfect 5 cardhand. Two fusion at most on your turn. Lose to a single bystial. It's now a deck that setup two interruption in their turn at most (which is already unlikely) and has little to no ability to do more after passing. Theres a reason the other banlist never banned the fusionnists. It's dead Jimmy, let it go.
I really don't agree with this just because, if Tear is at a reasonable power level it's actually not bad to play against. Kashtira is basically never fun to play against, especially with Diablosis giving them an extra mill condition, removing your boss monster, and a 9 zone lock setup. There's a reason that Master Duel had to limit most floodgates. Certain strategies aren't banned because they're overwhelmingly strong (Though full power Kash is an over-centralizing deck) but also because they're fricking annoying and unfun to play against. Most Kash games from it's hayday were complete blowouts on either side. Either you opened Droll/Nibiru or a kaiju/golem/sphere mode, or you started your first turn with 9 of your zones locked, half your deck banished FD, and with no boss monster. Just a miserable format.
unlike tear, kash dies to most boardbreakers and kaijus
That is what he is saying. The games just become draw the out or get blown out.
its the same thing against tear
>don't draw Dshifter and lose
kash has more outs compared to tear
That's true but it's not a good thing. It's like the Drytron format where, if you went second, you either opened the Kaiju/Droplet or just lost. But if you did open the out, you basically won right then and there. But that's not fun. Tear is strong, but I've been able to have some genuine back and forth with the deck, neither side instantly winning because they got lucky enough to draw the right card. Yugioh is a game that involves chance, but it isn't like Blackjack or Poker where chance determines the majority of games. Yugioh is a game of skill, and hitting my opponent with Droll or Sphere Mode isn't skillful. Nor is it particularly fun.
>Tear apologists still going
Your fish are getting gutted by konami and I'm going to enjoy every second of it.
rockeks have been real quiet since block dragon got banned
what's the matter? I should be seeing a bunch of smug posts by now like usual. where are they at?
>lego ruler banned
Redox to 1 next banlist
>one miller and only 2 of each names left
>a single bystal shits on tear now
neat
nice banlist
t. hero chad
I'm surprised they didn't revenge hit Runick for costing them worlds
Some 14 year old in OCG won a tournament with Stun Runick. Shareholders happy.
merrli
no..
Free him
Kill all frogs and toads. Behead all frogs and toads. Curbstomp all frogs and toads, ect, ect ect.
even frog the jam?
>Branded fusion and kitkallos not banned
Clown list
Don't worry. Tears will be more inconsistent so they brick 2/5 games now instead of 1/5.
Tear's descent into slop has begun.
Ishizus got hit again. My trap monster list is gonna lose it's secondary wincon (mill) that only comes up once every 10 games or so and also reduce its recycling with kelbek. It got murdered before its new support got the chance to arrive
Ishizu is still best girl.
>Exchange of the spirit/Gravekeeper's Trap lock gets harder as well
Not only can you not run pure Ishizu as your main wincon (you haven't been able to for a while) but even having an Ishizu package in your deck just makes it worse since it's so sparse now.
>wanting to play tear with a million constancy hits
enjoy brick city
People still won't drop the deck because why buy anything new when you can just keep trying to use old cards.
>People still won't drop the deck because why buy anything new when you can just keep trying to use old cards.
wtf Rotationgays we're right all along!?!
Stubbornly clinging on to dated strategies because you love a set of cards is a core part of what makes Yugioh such a great game. I would quit immediately if my dangers rotated out.
The idea is that new decks will be coming. Everything after Kash is a lot more bearable
next we ban havnis
no more playing during my turn
troony mermaid out , ka$h gods in
>Dude, what if we semi-limited Brilliant Fusion?
we should ban this next so that they can't recycle their banished kitkat
But wht hit Block Dragon now? What the frick was Adamancipators doing?
Still being an absolute pain in the neck, better late than never.
its a cancer card that should not exist in the first place
hope they ban snow next
It's a prehit to Superheavy piles
What if, (You) wanted to limit SHS cards but Master Duel said,
>We’re gonna limit wagon instead
SHS needs at least 2-4 other bans by the time it gets Wakaushi
Good luck doing that in MD where everyone plays 15 handtraps
Even if you don't go for the FTK SHS has enough combos through handtraps to end on Apollousa, Baronne, bullshit. Also SHS is playing around 20 monster handtraps.
Can it play under shifter, Maxx "C" or Droll? The answer is no. There are a lot of decks that are good in theory (or in paper yugioh) but suck in MD, this will be one of those.
any format that needs to main droll is toxic as shit
>any format that needs to main Maxx C is toxic as shit
Fixed that for you
Absolutely yes. It can put up Baronne through shifter and you can have your whole deck in your hand for all I care. I've got spell canceler or exterio backing up my baronne, regulus and appalousa. The real thing has already steamrolled your game theory.
Seems like you don't really play MD. If that deck is as good as you are telling me it's going to become meta and by that people will start to main deck kaiju, lava golem and going second cards in general or counters to that deck and unlike tear or runick that deck doesn't get to mess out with the opponent deck so I think it's not a big deal to break or prevent those end boards. If the deck becomes a real problem I trust Konami to kill it.
It already dominated the tcg in a handtrap heavy format and needed an emergency hit. Good luck drawing your handtrap. If you don't I instantly win and if you do I play through it and still end on 4 negates and probably a spell canceler/exterio.
>What the frick was Adamancipators doing?
Still playing the game 2 years later? Get power crept or banned, that's how Yugioh works.
Good thing there's no rotation though 🙂
>What the frick was Adamancipators doing?
Anyone still playing dilator now was turboing out Pachy, Bamboo Shoot or Barrier Statue and it was cancer.
Using Block Dragon to set up Pachy locks behind a dozen negates. The card had to go, it was way too good to exist alongside a viable earth/rock strategy. Adamancipators is still plenty playable without it. IMO Branded wasn't even the third best deck these past few months but they hit Branded Fusion too, current deck performance doesn't really dictate hits.
>Adamancipators is still plenty playable without it.
Said no one ever. What are you going to do without block? Drop your whole hand to pass on a spell negate and if you open godlike, Baronne? So playable.
>What are you going to do without block?
Dilators can't do anything now, but I think they could do something if Redox came back, in conjunction with Rock/Naturia/Vernusylph piles.
Redox is cope of course, but I can see ways for the deck to be playble if you really like the archetype.
Adams have to pivot away from Build-a-Board combos because they no longer have access to functionally infinite material via Block Dragon and now have to actually play with the tools the deck was designed with, how horrifying. The Vernusylph engine is unironically enough, alongside other powerful rock type combo tools and extenders, to keep the deck playable. It was a contender in the TCG without Block Dragon and it'll continue to be a contender in Master Duel.
>It was a contender in the TCG without Block Dragon
Not it wasn't.
tell me you don't play the deck without telling me you don't play the deck. dillators without BD get one synchro climb and maybe one link monster if they're lucky, this is nowhere near "contender", have you see the insane shit that flies around today? have you seen dragon link, the current best combo deck? (and this, even with block unbanned) you don't know what you're talking about.
Chink during the md world championship went full combo and summoned fossil dyna.
Also, super heavys are coming eventually.
>bwoos my honest +3 searches infinite body is honest why ban it!
Half the banlist are worse cards than block dragon, and that's not counting the garbage cards banned purely for FTK reasons. Block is one of the stupidest cards ever made, Painful Choice levels of stupid.
why would they not just ban kitkalos? the banlist did not do that much to tear. it just got rid of the millers
Brainlet. Merlli is the anchor of the deck. Always has been.
>the banlist did not do that much to tear
Are you serious? Not only did they lose two more miller cards leaving them with only one Kelbek, but they lost Merrli, the only Tears girl with a normal summon effect, the most preferred Kitkalos target and a whole GY fusion, leaving them now with the inability of summoning both Rullkalos and Kaleido-Heart in the same turn unless they pack generic fusion cards. Put it into perspective, they just went from 6 to 4 cards that can GY fusion.
And that's not to mention elf plays for opp turn, or sprind play to recover after getting interupted, which are both dead af too.
>since the beginning I've been saying that block, dragon ruler of legos would eventually get banned
>Everyone called me a schizo
>Now it's finally gone
You owe me an apology, block dragon is a stupid card that should never have been printed, same as branded fusion that finally got limited
There's shockingly little dragon support in the future. I guess we're just going to be leeching off chaos for the next year.
we have dis pater coming. After that... uhhh... Dark hole dragon is pretty Pog?
>Blaster at 2
Dragon Rulers reintegrating into Dragon Link is happening soon. They're almost at critical mass.
They're all shit. Dragon Link only get worse by using them. Sorry grandpa, your shit dragons are outdated.
It's okay. Drulers can join Kash gang against the Tearlament longhouse
Bystials do more for the deck and are more consistent
Agido didn't deserve this
yes he did
hopefully kelbek is next
No, it's the smelly fish women that did this. Once again the Ishizu cards are suffering for their sins.
Ban all tears, all ishizu cards back to 3. I wish to return to the golden days of runick ishizu milling 30 of my opponent’s cards turn 1.
>all ishizu cards back to 3
No
Pile slop format already proved itself to be worse than Tear.
That format was full of sovl. People who shotgun Maxx C getting FTK’d. What more could you ask for?
Millers to 3, shufflers to 1. Fair's fair.
its crime by association
You know they're just being targeted because they're brown people cards.
>no HEY!!!
You are all shameful.
WHY THE FRICK IS SPHERE MODE UNTARGETABLE FRICKING Black person CARD
i am usually not in agreement with the "BAN BAN BAN BAN" boomer tier complaining but i agree with them on banning all the ishizu cards. they should of never been printed.
People say that for any card that send a decent amount of cards from deck to gy. Maybe the issue is with how easy it is to play from the gy to begin with. Remember when it was a zombie thing, and not a normal thing that every deck does?
>morons pretending that kash is worse than tear
lets the average turn 1 against tear
>summon starter that activates its effect
>get hit with havnis which then goes into full tear combo
lets see the average turn 1 against kash
>do your entire turn in peace because no kash maindeck monster has a handtrap effect that gives them access to full combo
Average t1 vs kash
>standby shifter
even with shifter you still get to do your turn so there's at least an illusion of gameplay
against tear you have no turn at all
>even under shifter you still get to do your turn
y-yeah haha. I don’t think I play a single deck that doesn’t pass to shifter. I’d rather them make fricking winda on my turn.
Shifter is semied doe
And they always open it. Also Havnis is Semi’d too.
Kashtira Tearlament is 3 more copies of Havnis, also Orange Light
The Merrli hit is going to be devastating until Tearlaments Kashtira comes out.
You can replace her in the hand with Reasoning, I think with Tearlaments Kashtira Tears will still have a strong go-first game but their turn 0 plays are basically dead.
>but their turn 0 plays are basically dead.
Fricking good. No deck should have turn 0 plays unless it's specifically a dogshit archetype that needs it.
Tear Kash doesn't fusion so it doesn't fix shit. Merrli it isn't bad because of the mill being worse. It's bad because your endboard is shit, you lose access to spright protection and recover, and get destroyed by anything that can stop your first fusion. Milling more isn't going to help with any of that shit.
god i hope they prehit kash, just ban ariseheart from the start
There's two ways that Tears can go from here, either double down on mass milling or focus on foolishing to guarntee the Tear fusions.
If you focus on foolishing, you open yourself up to chokepoints, mainly being Reinoheart and Kit getting imperm'd.
Tearlaments Kashtira and Reasoning at least gives Tears the extra mill power without bricking too hard but the deck can still lose hard to two Bystials even with a successful mill.
Mill or sending isn't the issue. Learn to read Black person. The deck has no decent end board with only two fusion and no access to elf/sprind plays. And again, stopping only one of the fusion mean passing on an empty board or set one trap, normal a tear name, and pray.
Bro just run 3 poly
tear probably need to start abusing cartesia and small albaz package
It's as clear a signal as Konami can send that KashTear will be arriving next pack
Are we finally lowering the power level of the game so new stuff like Vanquish Soul can be playable?
>rikka untouched again
This is not okay.
Why hit a bad deck?
Is DANGER! Dark world fun?
It’s the most satisfying deck if your opponent Maxx Cs you, because then very funny things get to happen.
What about regular gameplay though?
You'll be swearing at the Danger cards a lot
But is it fun
I love drawing cards
I love advantage
>mfw ash the Danger
No Silva means you have to make actual endboards going first. Some people go for Ido lock, but I have been sending EEV off of curious and bringing it back with knightmare gryphon to end on EEV and a leftover large dude to trigger it + grapha + 4 mat apo. Oh yeah and it’s incredibly fun to make Coach King Giantrainer 10/10 card.
Going 2nd you have like no room for nonengine besides maybe a few kaijus or lava golem, but it’s pretty fun to just brute force through your opponent’s shit by summoning large dudes. Due to no handtraps you can sometimes get fricked by super combo decks or FTKs though. Also you cannot beat the anti-tear macro floodgate shit.
Overall fun deck if you like to a lot of draw cards. A lot of times your t1 plays will leave you with like 5 cards in deck.
It's bricky ass. Even brickier than blue eyes.
only if you enjoy boring solitaire gameplay
Not really. Try it on EDO. I thought it would be much more interesting than it turned out to be. Dangers are inherently fun but the Dark World really brings down the mood.
I like to draw cards so it's fun.
Welp, time to craft another 2 lubellions and a third nadir servant.
When are they gonna at least limit Baronne? Not that that does anything but still, send a message.
Nothing is more annoying that knowing you can deck someone out when you get maxx c but instead your opponent has over half of their deck dedicated to handtraps. I got ash blossomed, Effect Veiler x2, Ghost Ogre, Ghost Belle, and double Imperm before I ran out of gas and my opponent still had 18 cards in deck.
The deck was literally Kashtira + handtraps/kaijus only.
Best banlist ever in MD, except for Branded Fusion to 1. The deck would be struggling even if Aluber, Opening, and Branded Fusion were all at 3. Completely unwarranted. I wouldn't care if Aluber and Opening were at 3 but alltogether it's really bullshit.
Too much recursion Is bad. You still get a strong turn 1.
No you don't. Branded Fusion alone is a weak opener, it's only a really good card when you open Aluber or Aluber + Branded Fusion. Again, Branded Fusion to 1 is fair, because we can also recycle it but the consistency hits were adding up and this is the nail before the nail in the coffin.
>Completely unwarranted.
No it wasn't you stupid Black person. The deck's been around too long.
you can have braindead fusion back at 3 only if Black personjade gets banned permanently
Ban Mirrorjade and Branded needs no other hits
Sunny looking a bit different
>puts trap monster in his own Imperm's column
>my brandon deck full of 1 card combos that makes very strong boards while having midrange-tier recursion and generating advantage 24/7 and having a billion floats shouldnt be hit
Yes it should
b-but my highly searchable fusion spell that i can recur from the gy is going to 1 copy..!
Time to maindeck DD crow
There is no figure more controversial in this game than pic related. Don't worry for us though, we will survive this hit as we always do.
You vill eat the bugz and you vill be happy
At a certain point you're going to be reduced to playing Upstart Goblins
>Floo has received hits for like 5 banlists in a row now
lol
lmao
It's not okay that they killed Merrli.
i am very happy that they did
It's so based. I'm also building Kash when wave 2 comes out and playing it until Arise-Heart is banned. Feels like it's been a year of graveyard slop between grass PUNK LBTGQIA+ piles and Tear.
>It's not okay that they killed Merrli.
Konami be like "decks dead, no UR refunds" and teargays deserve it tbqh
Yeah, they should have also killed Havnis, Scheiren, Kitkalos, and frick it, all DBP waifu archetypes too
Reminder this artist is a woman that self inserts as Kitchen Dragonmaid whenever she draws her getting fricked.
Will my boys ever get support?
Never, hopefully
Rude
Could anything even fix them? They're probably the most "era specific" archetype ever designed. They're slow, xenophobic, rely entirely on generic floodgates, and quite literally have no going second plays.
>Duel arena
>Official Yugioh TCG simulator
There was another official yugioh sim before Master Duel? What happened to it? Why did they make MD instead?
There were multiple attempts to make an online-focused YGO game but they always had shit monetization and ended up getting EoS'd.
Damn we could've had avatars and shiet
I just got the news. They're releasing a Dragon to 2 now, huh?
someone explain to me why dragoon is still banned
Because it's gay
floodgate decks don't deserve a boss monster
Roach destroyer
Japs hate him
OCG PTSD because they didn't have Droplet
Plays around Maxx "C"
Guru/Eldlich/Branded/Labrynth decks will use him
NADIR, ANCIENT FAIRY DRAGON, AND GIRSU IS FREE NOW!
>GIRSU IS FREE
Yaaay! I'm so happy we finally got our best normal summon back to thre- *activate imperm*. Set 1 pass
>he doesn't run dangers in his pure orcust deck
Ngmi
>run dangers
>>>>"pure" orcust
also if you didn't banish any orcust name, what will you do? galatea/ding pass and smile?
>dangers
>pure orcust
ITS TIME
god damnit now i have to completely rework my krawler build with small world shit
Do you really need it? Iirc girsu alone was the big combo peice
yeah and i want to find girsu turn 1 before any board presence
What are you thinking about using? I'm in the same boat
amorphage envy is the go-to but deckspace is so tight with this deck i want to die
ah yes orcust
the deck that does absolutely nothing anymore
>GIRSU IS FREE
Now give Fairy Galatea Link-1
swordsoul bros we are finally back
I'm actually athinking about dusting my tears deck and go full swordsoul.
With Merril banned tears is going to be suck ass.
Only 2 fusions per turn? Really?
>only 2
Black folk
>let's just ignore kelbak(1) and agido(0) lolololol
>tEArs stILl aT fUll fOrCe
Tears aren't going to die. We still have names. OCG has no kit and the deck is still doing fine.
Man Master Duel threads really are the only threads that stay mostly in topic thesee days. I need to stop venturing out into Ganker. Stay away from American politics, lads. That shit will rot your brain
you need to seethe more
Are you seething?
I'm not seethe anon
there isn't a single thread worth going to on Ganker for video game discussion other than this one, and thats pretty depressing considering the quality of these threads isnt all that good sometimes
>farfa mad about the hits to grass, agido, and block dragon
>all millBlack person cards
well that explains a lot. so he's just another one of those "cards I like good, cards I don't like bad" morons for banlist takes
surprised he doesn't post on Ganker, he'd fit right in
I give you one of the jankiest homebrews ever, kashtira umi, essentially you are aiming to get the kayryushin lock but now you can supplement it with kashtira to be even more of a c**t, the deck playstyle is slow enough to let kash ogre shine, taking away garnets and any top deck your opponent could have used to out the lock, plus it being water comes handy a lot of the times. meanwhile kash fenrir is generic utility and can protect the lock from lava golem due to it being EARTH, realistically you can cut out preparations and raiho, whale floating into it almost never happen, I still find it fun to summon it with jellyfish, an endboard of fenrir + raiho + jellyfish under legendary ocean is fun as balls. does it bricks? yes, is it funny to pull off? hell yes, and thats what this game is all about, love to make other players suffer
why murder the clowns again though they can be defeated with one ash sometimes
because searching and recycling braindead fusion is easy as frick
Because "Branded dies to ash" is a moronic meme and maindeck Lubber should also go to 1
I just saw the banlist and HOT DAMN. This shit's looking alright.
The stapler dev must have finally been discharged from the hospital and his first act back in the office is excising everything wrong with the game.
#FreeDaGuys
never
WAIT NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU MOTHER FRICKERS MY HEROIC DECK
Frick that Black person, he's been shitting up random games for the last year and a half, and that's a year and a half too long. "What if we made a monster with insanely strong effects, then made a dozen ways to cheat it out AND stop it from ever losing those effects" What if I killed you what about that
HE WAS MY BOY, HE WAS ALWAYS THERE FOR ME
can i have blue eyes support
Fly your jet, Kaiba.
no
sure, right after I get dark magician support
Naturia Runick bros, it is finally our time to shine.
Map to 3 please
Keep it coming mapgay, your ritual posting has ensured 5 straight Floo banlist hits. At this rate we're gonna see Robina limited.
nooo not rhongo
that's going to kill my youtube views
Hit d-link
I have never lost to Branded if my ash resolves.
I wish I could put my head between her legs and just breathe it all in
Is Labrynth safe from the ban list?
They already butchered the deck when they banned EEV
you must live in an alternate universe cause EEV isnt banned
EEV is at 1, schizo.
>butchered
>banned EEV
Holy unplayer.
Yes.
Lab is honest
>EEV and extrav both hit
clearly not. they've even taken event hits
I can see a possible future where Cooclock gets limited if enough people b***h and moan about handrips, other than that there's no reason whatsoever to hit Labrynth.
Cooclock limit does absolutely nothing.
Lab only runs 2 because of Bystials, if it wasnt for that its always a 1 of.
Is the guy that runs through the Labrynth an actual card?
No, not yet
It's a gurl
That's hot
Honestly I don't understand why cooclock should be a one-of in lab
I love when he's already in my starting hand, opens so many more plays
I'd still run two even without Bystials, it's always good to have a higher chance to have it in my opening hand so I can dedicate my searches to something else.
Traptrix is fun
It's great. I am really happy with the new support.
>no more Rhongo Bongo
Get dismantlin'
FREE HER
Bros I need an answer quick, does Druiswarm activate under shifter if I raigeki it?
Druiswurm needs to be in the GY to activate.
It also needs to be from field
Light stage and reincarnation doko
crimson dragon when
why does konami refuse to hit problem UR cards
Frick refunds
They hit Branded Fusion?
weird time to say this. on this banlist they actually did hit problem UR cards
TOTAL ELF LIFE
TOTAL KITKALLOS LIFE
But at what cost...
How could they just kill her like that?
She consorted with the enemy (Albaz lore deck).
Traitors get the chopping block.
Its okay, she only got her PC taken away as punishment. Sorry for kitkalos, she cant chat from prison with Merril anymore.
how do these refunds work?
If i waste now 90 UR on some card that is going to be banned next month I'm just going to get all 90 UR back?
Automatically?
No you have to manually dismantle them.
You have to dismantle them manually but yes
Does this only work with banned cards or also with semi/limited cards?
I've been playing the wrong game this whole time.
Lovely is too much. Ban Lovely
adamancipator is a tier 5 petdeck that is barely playable above gold yet it was the only deck butchered on the list? worst list ever. this is a new low for even konami. frick this shit garbage game
Lmao. Knew it was just a matter of time before the seethe would start here.
Get filtered and get out.
I would tell you to have a nice day, but without block dragon, you literally can’t do anything anyways. Eat shit rockfricker.
Good no one should ever have to face EARTH-pile
this deck isnt even that good.
>this deck isnt even that good.
>placed first at their tournament
i dont trust ocg locals as a representative of anything after playing master duel for a year. these morons didnt even know what runick naturia was.
fair enough, probably was some fisherman locals. That doesn't change the fact that gamblebrained shit also featuring Block Dragon recursion and a handrip is still a good deck.
ive played it before tear was out(not with shs being legal ofc) i just hat playing decks that auto lose to the roach now.
shut up
troonydilators were cancerous slop
they aren't even real rocks, just humans pretending to be something else (= trannies)
kys
I miss Arc-V
I miss only the first season of Arc-V. Everything else after that was a complete mess.
synchro was fun
>Harp is still banned in tcg
All I’ve gotten from my time here is that Ganker is filled with Brandedgays and can’t play coombo for shit.
Konami has been moving away from coombo with more recent releases and the game is better for it
brandedis a coombo deck and will be even more with quem
Holy frick decks without 1 card starters are unfricking playable. 90% of games are bricks.
that's what you get for running 20 handtraps
>don't run 20 handtraps
>lose coin toss
>insta lose
Frick this event. Says a lot when you queue and it takes 20 seconds to get matched. One of the biggest non-Duelist Cup pieces of shit for sure. Frick Light/Dark decks.
Matchmaking is fricked because there are way more people playing dark than light.
>n rarity
It's only a matter of time
>page 9
Nope. Not gonna wait.
WE OUT!!!
Do you win against the psi loaner by just not acitvating any monster effects?