>Define "modern audiences"
A new generation of potential fans that don't know about the franchise is the wording that was used. That is why Snake Eater was chosen as the best entry point. Also the game is keeping the same legacy camera (if you want to use it), the same original voice acting, story, cutscenes and locations. So essentially the game is treating the original game as sacred which is what nostalgiagays also wanted. This isn't a Resident Evil 4 downgrade
I played through Metal Gear Solid V and really liked the gameplay but the story was really confusing. I was thinking of picking this one up if it plays similarly.
>A new generation of potential fans
I laugh every time
These suits are so desperate for magical markets that don't exist it's quality entertainment to watch them flounder constantly never learning the lesson
>That is why Snake Eater was chosen as the best entry point.
Snake Eater was chosen because it's the one that most fans of the series unanimously agree was good and thereby the only one that "modern audiences" see: homosexuals on twitter and discord care about and are likely to buy so they don't miss out on whatever people on their timeline are talking about.
>This isn't a Resident Evil 4 downgrade
Re4 remake being a proper remake with overhauled things is why it succeeded critically and commercially.
Dead space remake failed because it was basically 1:1 and the same is most likely going to be true for Silent hill 2 remake and metal gear delta.
RE4make was a bunch of astroturfed hype over a game that's already forgotten
No one looks back at RE4make and thinks about how it revolutionized the industry like they do for the original RE4. Because it did the exact opposite and stole a bunch of mechanics from other more popular things regardless of whether or not they made sense in RE4. It's a downgrade no matter how you slice it
A vague corporate talking point about trying to appeal to a demographic that doesn't exist. At least when they said "We want the Call of Duty Audience", you could actually point to something.
Homosexual characters in Metal Gear are in like half the games kek
>>game can't handle more than 11 npcs on screen without crashing
wasn't it specifically like that because of the ps3 and xbox 360. They couldn't handle more than 11 NPCs not the engine itself. Plus i think mgsv is one of the greatest looking games despite how optimized and how it can run on any shitbox (i played it on an intel uhd laptop and it looked so fricking good and played at a constant 60 fps)
It was this, though fox engine also was a real b***h to develop with beside for a few minority of staff.
"with controls changed around a bit so that zoomers don't have a melty over the game not controlling exactly the same as all the other games they play"
The Fox Engine? No, they've abandoned that. They did MG: Survive and PES games with it, before throwing it in the trash like 4 years ago. Now they just use fricking Unreal for everything.
>Fox Engine is outdated and won't work with PS5
That's completely impossible. All they have to do is run the source code through the compiler for the console and it will work. The real problem is no publisher wants to use in house engines because it means they can't just sign on hoards of temp programmers from anywhere and expect instant results from them because they have to spend time learning how the engine works first. Going to unreal or other common engines means the hoard of temp programmers know how the engine works already and can get started immediately.
No it's not using the Fox engine because it was designed over a decade ago for PS3/360 hardware that's approaching 20 years old. >game can't handle more than 11 NPCs on screen without crashing
>>game can't handle more than 11 NPCs on screen without crashing
wasn't it specifically like that because of the ps3 and xbox 360. They couldn't handle more than 11 NPCs not the engine itself. Plus i think mgsv is one of the greatest looking games despite how optimized and how it can run on any shitbox (i played it on an intel uhd laptop and it looked so fricking good and played at a constant 60 fps)
Anon when most other engine are a b***h to use without much additions, it's just a matter of being clever. If you had ever developed a game, you would know an engine doesn't make the game too
This isn't necessarily a bad thing. MGS3's controls and menus were never great. A lot can be done to make it better, even if it's to target 'modern audiences'.
Why the frick should Hayter feel any loyalty to that hack Kojima who fired him just to hang out with a c-list celebrity who gave the worst lead performance ever in MGSV? Hayter played MGSV eventually and found it fun, the gameplay is the one thing everyone agrees isn't too bad, he was most offended at how badly Snake was treated in that game and rightfully so.
Hayter is a fricking voice actor. He’s nothing. No one who even know who he was without kojima. He was asked to do a voice, then let it all “you’re the legendary Snake!” lines go to his head. Its like hiring a janitor to clean your office, but he starts hanging around board meetings trying to tell you how to run things, thinking the company would fail if he wasn’t cleaning the toilets. He’s an absolute diva, and still salty as frick. One of the most unprofessional people in the business. And he has zero range.
Let's be honest, Kiefer was a MUCH better voice actor than Hayter. Hayter always stuck out like a sore thumb which his cartoonish dialogue that bordered parody. I'm glad he got replaced.
Kiefer barely voiced or acted in his voice acting performance
Hayter's performances have always matched the tone of the productions he was in, he might have been a bit campy but all the MGSes he was in were a campy affair in general
Regardless of the campiness, none of the other leads sound as horrible as him. Not just that, the japanese voice sounds different for Big Boss and Snake but Hayter sounds the exact same showing his absolute lack of range. He's trash, and his same god awful voice being back is the one problem I have with the remake.
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>but Hayter sounds the exact same
I've no horse in this race but have you ever thought that's how he was directed
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what does otsuka do differently for solid and naked?
>Kiefer barely voiced or acted in his voice acting performance
Kojima watched DRIVE and cut all his fricking dialogue to be le cool stoic silent protagonist. How many cutscenes are just snake autistically staring into the distance? Not shitting either and then people wonder why Konami sacked the dumbass for hemorrhaging their money with shit like hiring a big name actor and cutting all their dialogue or designing a brand new game engine from the ground up.
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>Kojima watched DRIVE and cut all his fricking dialogue to be le cool stoic silent protagonist.
this shit wouldn't surprise me after seeing that picture of Kojima wearing the gawdy ass DRIVE jacket
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He said it himself on Twitter, something like the dialogue being "Kaz are you alright?" to just "Kaz?"
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Me at the top right.
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I think Kiefer or maybe someone else from the production said it too, that 90% of his VA was cut out.
>Kiefer was a MUCH better voice actor than Hayter.
I'm going to say no on.this one. And not because I think it's such sacrilege to replace the original VA or whatever. Even at the time I thought all the people b***hing about it were fricking moronic. It's more so because Snake barely talks in MGSV. I can't praise Kiefer in that role when the dude barely says a word. He probably had that shit recorded a day or two. Easy pay check for him I guess.
Doesn't change the fact that the one page he voiced sounds much better than anything Hayter has voiced.
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I can't remember any iconic lines from Kiefer but can remember many from Hayter. I think MGS for Playstation has my all time favorite voice acting in a game.
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>I can't remember any iconic lines from Kiefer
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Now imagine Hayter doing this line in his corny ass gruff tryhard voice.
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>Now imagine Hayter doing this line in his corny ass gruff tryhard voice
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sauce?
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<3
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please? It's /ss/ isn't it?
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Yes
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Ruined
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Perfect.
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>/ss/
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COME ON ANON GIMMIE THE SAUCE BEFORE THE THREAD DIES FRICK
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please anon...i NEED this.....
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Sunny Early Summer by Coupe
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first half of the lines are so fricking flat, he's mumbling through it
gets better the longer it goes on
Kiefer mumbles way too much and it is objectively worse than Hayter who enunciates clearly
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He's nearly blackout drunk in the studio anon. What's hayters excuse?
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>I can't remember any iconic lines from Kiefer
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Eh, I still disagree. It's like if an actor has a 5 minute cameo in a movie. You're never going to be blown away by that small role, no matter how great they are. Although now I think of Christopher Walkens cameo in Pulp Fiction and realise that's a dumb analogy. Anyway, enjoy your opinion.
Kiefer barely voiced or acted in his voice acting performance
Hayter's performances have always matched the tone of the productions he was in, he might have been a bit campy but all the MGSes he was in were a campy affair in general
Kiefer actually recorded a lot, Kojima just cut it all because he decided to make Snake a silent protagonist at the last second.
Dude, it’s time to let your American politics bullshit go. Donald Trump would sell your family for a dollar. He’s never struggled, he was born into unimaginable wealth, he is not your saviour or your friend, and he literally couldn’t care about anything except himself. Dude is dumb as rock, selfish as it gets, and arguably the most dishonest man in all of politics, short of George santos.
He’s an embarrassment to your nation and you need to stop letting a fricking politician define your personality.
Who gives a frick whether a man who does voice work in videogames likes your pick for president?
you guys have demonstrated time and again that you cant recognize a cis women anymore and are just perpetually regurgitating politically motivated fake outrage for the sake of just being outraged
you're a troony so you wouldn't even know what normal is
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I'm not one, but you're so terminally online that you think that everyone including cis women are lol
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dilate
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tell your mom that since you think that everyone is trans
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I forgot that camo existed. If they add all special camos, nuGanker will shit themselves screaming trannies when they see it.
I like how Subsistence added shit like DPM and Flecktarn. Looked cool.
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wouldn't surprise me if they removed flecktarn in the remake
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Why would they remove Flecktarn? It's historically accurate post-war camo, you stupid overreacting Black person.
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>It's historically accurate post-war camo
i know
it's still associated with muh nazis tho
im not saying they strictly will remove it, just that it wouldn't surprise me. some people screech about iron crosses and those aren't strictly nazi-related either.
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>it's still associated with muh nazis tho
No it's not.
i don't think its da joos, this is sheer konami incompetence. The model looks moronic, especially the eyebrows and brow ridge which is what makes her look like a man
I think it's more creative liberties to show her more tired of it all. It's different but I think it still work well. She's an almost 50 years old soldier who is pretty much done with life as she's heading to a suicide mission and is going to betray the person she trusted the most.
Though I'd like to see her with her normal outfit.
i miss the fox engine
its now dead
While some staffs enjoyed it, there was a lot of issues with the engine behind the scene, especially with new and younger staffs. It's why many in-house engine got retired in general in the japanese industry. It cost too much money and time to train new people on it every time. And many still disliked using it.
i don't even want her too look like a hot 20 year old bimbo, i just want her to look like a woman her age (emphasis on the woman part). Maybe it's a weird shot and she'll actually look better in gameplay but who knows. I don't know if this comparaison is apt but when i look at pic rel i get neaderthal vibes.
she looks a little weird in that one second clip of her approaching and doing that cold stare. I need to a whole cutscene and see her in motion before I make a judgement.
She's a bit more strong faced but she still look like a women to me, just a very hard one, the one who beat your ass in a bootcamp.
though the shadow/lighting could be in effect too, like back when MGSV GZ was announced, everyone thought "man big boss is old as frick" but it turns out it was all an illusion.
they're transitioning from an anime-ish artstyle to hyper realistic so you can't really expect a 1:1. Even snake looks different from big boss from mgsv and it's not because he aged. However i gotta say they did a shit job in that transition
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I mean he still look pretty damn good imo
I think Hideo Kojima gets way too much credit for Metal Gear.
Kojima is still very important, you can say many other people were important too, that's a fact, but Kojima still directed all the main games. (though there was attempt at more main game without him, but they all got issues back then, external or internal, it was a long time ago though)
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i was referring to the boss's transition, snake looks fine
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Nu-Boss looks great, not a one-to-one recreation but if you showed me a pic and said "That's The Boss" I wouldn't question it. If anything she looks younger than the OG. I'm a gay so I'm not talking from experience, but she looks hotter here than the pachinko remake. She looked kinda homely in the pachinko version, very gaunt and her eyes look sunken in. There's plenty of examples of uggo chicks in modern vidya, and characters being made uggo, but people are so fricking fixated on it that they're reaching waaaaay too far for examples.
Each time they remade the boss she looked a bit different anyway, even on mobile
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She looks manlier here than Nu-Boss.
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I wonder why nobody made a big deal about this. Is it because this whole "she looks like a man" is the newest trend for incels?
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MGS social ops never released in the west and only was available in japan for a year before GREE having issues with it, it closed in late 2013.
Though there's also this version done for MGS 3D promo art in 2012
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and then there's the pachislot version
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Best version
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I bought this skin for MGSV
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>Flaming BRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAPS
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I know people about her looking like david bowie but she legit does look almost exactly like david bowie right here. just needs a nasty snaggletooth poking out.
I don't mind the look but I still feels like it doesn't really look like her outside of the headband and hair. I do think people are way overreacting though, she doesn't look THAT bad, and we also haven't even seen the model in motion talking yet.
thats a myth, anon. there is someone she's modeled after, and its an actress that looks identical to her whos name escapes me. but david bowie = the boss was a meme that i see every other anon thinking its real
bro just stop saying that phrase
it's like a fricking curse or something, the second someone brings up "modern audiences" in a remake it always turns out shit
it just seems to be that particular phrase. if someone in a dev video says it, it's like a bad omen. like the game will be horribly optimized or completely busted with bugs or have downright bizarre changes made to it that ruin it mechanically. hope it turns out alright, it's just bad juju to say "bringing it to a modern audience".
>"we have released three remakes so far and they have all been received very well. Since it allows a MODERN AUDIENCE to play these games, it is something I am happy to do as someone that loves these older games, and we want to continue doing more" >director of RE4 remake
every remake is a scuffed version of the originals in one way or another. I don't think there has ever been a "good" remake in existence since they're all unnecessary cash grabs.
>every remake is a scuffed version of the originals in one way or another.
Nah, talk shit about Konami's grifting if you like but Capcom has been hitting it out of the park with that RE engine. Those RE engine games have reasonable filesizes, look fricking amazing and play great. RE2 is one of the best games of all time and they did it justice with the remake.
They even put the fricking tofu survivor in there. MGS HD collection couldn't even have the ape escape or skateboarding stuff in it.
I hope it plays like 5 but without the slowmo shit >j-j-just turn it off!
How about not designing the game around it and having the entire base alerted a split second after I'm spotted?
>that happens in every mgs but 2
and 3
if you took out the radio guys in 3 the rest of the enemy guards were fricked and could only rely on other guards who were close by for reinforcements.
you'd still get an alert, no?
in 2 the guards have to call in the alert, so, even when they see you, you still have until they warn about you on the radio - sometimes then even try to hide before doing it
I could've sworn there were dedicated radio guys in 3. I think it might be a false memory. I remember dudes walking around with the radio module on their back with an antennae and red lights on it.
>designing the game around it
what
with the exception of I think only two missions of scripted bullshit (Blood Runs Deep and A Quiet Exit), almost every mission is designed around the idea that you don't even need to fricking do anything to the guards at all to complete it. Frick, I love the No Traces bonus, I just wish the game stuck to it a little harder conceptually
>"modern"
Whenever I hear that moronic meme in the context of a vide game, I avoid the product as if it's an even more virulent plague than "easy to pick up; hard to master".
>what he meant: we added modern conveniences >what incels hear: we made everybody a trans black lesbian women who hate white men and america
jfc the pol brainrot it real
Go defend the hundred other abominations that have tried appealing to this "modern audience". You people don't exist. It's all crying and complaining but you never turn up.
Why should I have to? You’re the one shitting your pants having an overreaction on what you think it means. Then getting mad that you assumption was in fact incorrect and that people should control their language around your mindset
He literally says "built from the ground up for modern consoles" when talking about UE5 in the video. Not once does he mention modern audiences. Stop lying you stupid israelite Black person.
EVA is so clearly like an enemy agent who is trying to use her sex appeal to tempt Snake the whole game even though she's contextual ally, it's going to really bother me if people are bothered by that. Like do they really think that female spies wouldn't do shit like that?
This shit is the same like Alfred Ashford from re code Veronica, they think he is trans and not Norman Bates homage of a broken man larping as his twin sister, Eva point is being sexy but eventually you see her more than her sex appeal
Also I assume the Raikov part will be censored too
>Also I assume the Raikov part will be censored too
you mean him being naked in a thong, or Volgin grabbing Snake's junk when you're disguised as him?
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You don't grab your friends dick randomly to make sure they're still them and not an imposter?
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It makes perfect sense for Volgin though. Dude's a fricking sex pest.
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>friends
You mean boyfriend. There's probably a really good reason why volgin was rough with eva and soft with raikov. He's a degenerate sex pest, but he appeared to be in some sort of relationship with the twink.
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I wonder how newcomers are going to react to the scenes of Snake having the absolute tar beaten out of him by Volgin. Those were actually really brutal IIRC.
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I wonder if this engine can recreate that
That said I wouldn't mind a remake like this for sh3
i don't care about pozzing. i just care about the cursed phrase. now the game will turn out to be horribly optimized or to have mechanical alterations that ruin it or something, all because they couldn't help themselves and spoke their name.
for all the games or just MGS1?
what were some of the issues it had? i sort of ignored the collection after it hit and everyone said it was busted, I figured they would never fix it since it's Konami.
100%, but I think she'll otherwise look ok since Paramedic looks fine. Though there's always a risk that Paramedic gets to be an exception because she spends the game behind a codec filter.
I'm actually excited after seeing all this (although boss's face is a little bit of a letdown since she looks so different from the original) but I can't help but feel like there is going to be a massive catch revealed at some point before release. Konami can't be doing something this correctly.
Bro if I have to look at one more video of this smug frick quietly smirking to himself how he thinks he got one over on kojima I’m never touching metal gear again (outside of V).
so does Hayter know Japanese to comprehend what the other guy is saying or is he just pretending to acknowledge what he says by nodding when he doesn't understand shit? lol
Well yeah, it's a modern game for modern audience. Every modern game will be made for modern audience. Did you expect them to make the game for 40 year old old fricks who don't play video toys?
>Did you expect them to make the game for 40 year old old fricks who don't play video toys?
That's what SquareEnix refused to do with FFVII Remake and now Rebirth flopped hard.
No, I expect them to release a shittier version of a game that people have spent decades reminiscing about since the company making it hasn't been able to make a better game since they released the original.
On that note, why do people expect them to suddenly start now?
it was a nice touch that they added in a mode with a top down camera and the old controls just for curiosity's sake, too. I hope you can switch between them on the fly.
People are acting like this game is going to replace the orignal. You already have the original and now you're going to get a new take on the game. Don't like the new game? Play the original. It's a win win.
I can understand the type of sentiment when it comes to games like Demon's Souls or Dead Space. They aren't porting those games, the original servers are down, etc.
But when it comes to MGS, Konami has done a good job keeping the collection available now and updating it to fix issues. So I'm totally fine with having both available. It'll be a good way to experience it again.
>what were they thinking
Shitting out a 3rd movie when the scenario was almost fully done for 2 movies (which was already 1 too many for the book size)
>what were they thinking
Shitting out a 3rd movie when the scenario was almost fully done for 2 movies (which was already 1 too many for the book size)
>what were they thinking
Shitting out a 3rd movie when the scenario was almost fully done for 2 movies (which was already 1 too many for the book size)
Just watched all three LOTR movies the last 3 days in theaters again and it's unbelievable how hard those movies frick. Nothing compares to them.
Yeah, nothing's going to touch those. All well thought out, everyone on board passion for the project, all shot in one go, as little reliant on cgi as possible. Exactly how a trilogy should be done.
Pretty sure modern Konami are purely chasing the western audience. Doubt anyone with an actual well paying job will want to piss off kojimbo to continue working on MGS, only third rates like Hayter who have nothing else to do.
Hayter is a lunatic who has desperately latched onto this one role because it's the only thing that makes him still relevant. You hear him in other games he voice acted in and he's outright bad.
He was always a one-trick pony, of course he was gonna pathetically latch onto the only thing that put him on the map for the rest of his life after his film career flopped.
>We really wanted to put in the stuff we left on the cutting room floor like the snake jacking off mini game or the scene where the soldiers are shidding and farding in the outhouse and you have to sneak by or else get shit on
Good riddance I say
>Otsuka was Die Hardman in Death Stranding
damn can i play DS in japanese? maybe i should give that game another replay.
also, to be fair, I feel like otsuka is in goddamned everything.
He didn't say it was made for modern audiences, he said they remastered the audio quality for modern audiences. Story and dialogue is kept the same because they are reusing the original audio from 2003.
unnecessary maybe but it's a smart move on their part. they don't have to do any design and MGS3 is the game in the series that most people say is the best and the one that normalgays all pretend to know about but have never played. it's a good opportunity to make good money with minimal effort.
the entire reason they are doing this remake is to gauge whether or not it would be worth it to keep this studio open to make future MGS games. whether that means more remakes or original titles isn't known.
they should start over at MG1 and completely reimagine it
Kojimbo is a hack fraud that burns money. His team deserves all the credit not him. MG Survive was kino but you homosexuals couldn't appreciate it, just like MGS6 would have you Kojimbo-drones whining because it's easy to understand and doesn't have 12hrs of useless dialogue
I just finished phantom pain for the third time since 2015 or whatever and I think it's time to give survive a chance but like hell I'm paying 30 dollars for it
The only thing that I hope this does is remove loading zones, and combine all The End zones into one.
If they manage to have the original vision for The End boss fight, that would be awesome.
The problem is the AI, sets and challenges are all made with the original controls in mind.
The new control will make it too easy (third person over the shoulder camera just shows how small the jungle is for instance). If you make the whole game in one swoop without loading it fricks the entire thing up.
>it's bad because uhhh the talentless hack Kojima isn't involved >it's bad because uhhh no piss filter >it's bad because uhhh The Boss still doesn't look like a gacha waifu therefore it's WOKE
You morons really are desperate to shit on everything.
>it's bad because uhhh The Boss still doesn't look like a gacha waifu therefore it's WOKE
it's mostly that she doesn't even look like she's the same character
her face is unrecognizable whereas Snake, Zero, and Paramedic are all immediately recognizable
curious to see what Ocelot, EVA, and Volgin look like, I wonder if they will look significantly different from their original versions like Boss does.
Ganker isn't even as bad as zoomers in youtube comments, they called literally every game in Xbox showcase woke (when it was more like half of them) it's probably a leftist strategy to comically call every game woke
Did we watch the same xbox shitshow? Cause it was 90% pozzed and even the normalgays on israelitetube called it out because of how obvious it's getting at this point.
It was perfectly fine for the time, it will be nicer having MGSV movement in the remake though, assuming that's what they are going for and pull it off. I am glad they are also including the legacy camera and control scheme just to be thorough.
The original's controls were perfect for a stealth game. Of course the shooting controls are shit, they're your punishment for getting caught
The only actual improvements to the controls since then have all been a part of expanding the CQC system. Everything else has just been making the series less like Metal Gear and more like Gears of War
>if you increase the resolution for MGS3HD, it shrinks the size of post processing effects >Konami said they're looking into increasing the resolutions available for the HD collection
I wonder if they're looking into a way to have the post processing effects look right, or if they'll just say frick it and let people increase the resolution either way
I think what puts me off most about MGS Delta is the janky animations. It really does remind me of those old UE4 remake vids where they basically plonk high fidelity models in to the engine but then the animations, effects etc dont keep up with them. Doing the environments are easy in UE5 as they can be scanned in, same goes for faces. But the actual quality of the animation etc looks no way near on par with the rest of the visuals.
how ass mad and furious is Kojima seeing David Hayter back in the spotlight >Kojima tried his best to Hayter off and remove him from the MGS series >Kojimbo gets fired >Hayter is the FACE of the MGS series for Konami
he should see if he could get them to let him do a voiceover of >kept you waiting, huh?
when you click the main title to get the options to start game or load game. Like a little dig at kojima >i'm back
Kojima is trash and now the dust has finally settled the truth is coming out
see
What the actual frick is wrong with Kojima?
for all the DOGSHIT ideas Kojima tried to force into MGS. thankfully his staff managed to tard wrangle him.
one day i expect the truth of who was behind all of the good conceps and ideas in MGS will be revealed and it won't be Hideo israelitejima
It's just kneejerk reaction to the first initial "kojima is god blabla" when it turns out it wasnt just him (considering how later games there were few things and more pathetic celeb-worship and B movie shit)
he doesn't dislike Hayter or anything, he just wanted star power in his game because he has a Hollywood fetish, and he didn't see the English cast of MGS as being some sort of iconic thing that you can't ever change like what happens with Japanese voice casts. Pretty sure he also said that Otsuka is THE voice in his own mind.
Kojima never directed any of the english voicecast of MG.
Even for V, where he picked Kiefer and Quiet, those were still not directed by him. He only directed the japanese cast.
Kris Zimmerman directed the english voice cast of all japanese games (including games not by Kojima too)
Kojima first time directing in english was Death Stranding.
shut the frick kojidrone. it's not an idea, it's a fact.
the same way he tried to blackball the Joost after MGS5. he uses and abuses people on his path to working only with hollywood israelites
and people think MGS was good BECAUSE of this sex pest inserting his weird incel shit and poop jokes and not the rest of the team saying "hey let's pull back on that a bit". Think of every dumbass coomer thing like the Easter egg of snake jacking off in a locker to jav shit or the johnny character who has to shit and piss and cum in battle and it's this idiot
and I just remembered one of the abilities in death stranding is throwing literal shit at enemies. what the FRICK is his problem
did you just discover that Kojima was at his best when Fukushima was there to tard wrangle him or something? this has been a well known thing for like a decade now.
MGS 3 was made for the modern audiences when 'modern' meant early 00s. It appealed to many then, so if it will appeal to them now, we're fricked. Straight up fricked.
I can't help but see the series itself as extremely dull and devoid of any originality.
I'm sure they just mean updated controls like maybe a dedicated grenade button and not whatever the frick you're thinking of but the series has always been a little zesty anyway.
It's a remake that revamps the gameplay without changing the story itself.
It shouldn't go well. MGS 3 is a poorly written, unengaging mess that's as dated as the hardware it initially released on.
It will go well.
They just confirmed the only newly recorded stuff will be the controls. Just like what MGS 3DS did.
The modern feel they are talking about is the new control style (and the legacy control style confirmed they will also enable the original filter if you play that way) and the characters looking closer to the style of MGSV.
source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDCppzRLwpw
You people are complete idiots I swear
The first camera was not strict third person, it was more in the sky, 'legacy' camera refers to that.
(i'm gonna play over the shoulder 3rd person, but also that way because it was the way first intended and it looks really good and the sets dont look as small and limited that way)
Nah, that would be adding way too much and it'd break some basic intended gameplay. Though I would like for them to rethink the areas considering how easy the challenges would be with the new more agile controls
I hope you can switch between the two like in subsistence, but I somewhat doubt it. the animations and movement look different between the two. I imagine you have to quit out to the main menu to select it, or that game slots will be set permanently after you choose at the beginning or something.
Europe (and Japan?) seemingly are getting different collector edition
There's a pre-order bonus and a "sneaking DLC pack". No details on those.
I assumed those could be bonus costumes/camos, but maybe they are adding the old mission mode which got cut from MGS 3D back then.
Another possibility is that they are also remaking MGO1/doing a new MGO and it's related to this. MGO1 soundtrack was playing in the last trailer at one point.
>sneaking DLC pack
No way. If there's a DLC with new non-canon areas just to frick around with stealth sandbox in new jungle areas this is gonna be the game of the fricking decade
>sneaking DLC pack
you know, adding some "VR Missions" like with MGS1 or 2 to the game would be a fantastic idea to provide some new gameplay but that's really lame they are making it cost extra.
MGS 3DS was going to have this. With special challenges, some were a bit like the PW missions.
It got cut extremely late in dev, because some could still be played by cheating
why are some kojimagays so bitter about this? it's literally a KOJIMA game. when a company rereleases an older movie, it's still by the original director. the non-superficial changes in this are going to be very minimal.
that's correct.
he is talking about the camera, controls, and movement, all of which have been overhauled to be more like MGSV. You can still play the game top-down with the old control scheme and a piss filter if you want though.
That's the way to go, trying your own thing but still giving the possibility to get the original ways.
Other homosexuals who are remaking games should take note.
ill be honest, I know free cam is objectively better for this game, but I do sort of want to play it in the legacy mode. most of the times I've beaten MGS3 were played like that.
Remake of the original game doesn't mean that the original will somehow disappear. You lose nothing if they remake the game. You people cry about everything lol.
It does make you lose a decent community to discuss the game with. Remakes cause discourse around games to become infinitely more moronic without exception. Even good remakes like Zero Mission or REmake aren't immune from the occasional shitpost trying to claim the original was better somehow
Oh no my secret AAA game that nobody knows about. Get your head out of your ass.
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Not what I said moron
this is not a gatekeeping thing (although it can be a few times), I'm just tired of endless comparison shitpost fuel
Now every time we talk about MGS3, discussion of it has to include this crap
[...]
. Chucklefricks trying to get (You)s will never stop posting it
Credit at the start of the game? Unsure
Credit at the end of the game? More likely.
Worst case scenario : they will have a "thanks to the original development team and director"
they didn't removed any reference to Kojima in the MC. And they did in fact replaced a few of the ghost for unknown reasons, but Kojima wasn't part of them
I feels like there's still a weird contract where they can't directly says Kojima's name, and in return, Kojima doesn't comment on any current Konami project. Perhaps he was done after he trolled on Survive which I always felt was a bit hypocrite of him because he was the first to talk about a zombie focused spin off in 2013.
No idea if it will change later or not. But it's not a war like some people think it is either.
Okamura did in fact talk quickly about Kojima last december in an interview not made with Konami themselves directly and he seemed chill to talk about him. Which make sense considering the two used to be close + Okamura started his career on Snatcher and Policenauts. Okamura directed zone of the enders thanks to Kojima giving him the ressource as producer, because Okamura previous project got canceled and Kojima wanted to help him on his next project.
Its literally just the original game files with new models and assets. The script, audio and animations are all being reused they're not adding anything
Animations are all different moron, the new gameplay seem closer to MGSV mixed with MGS3
audio is mostly the same because many key VA in the JP dub (aka the important one to the devs) are dead. they confirmed they will have a few new voicelines for the controls however
They also won't change the script considering it's done as a project to respect the original too, if they did, people would have cried like Resident Evil by x1000 due to Kojima's star status.
They probably will do more original project after Delta if it does well, based on what Okamura said
>Animations are all different moron, the new gameplay seem closer to MGSV mixed with MGS3
the most obvious difference are the CQC animations
they're completely different from the original, they have an entirely different flow and take a little longer.
man new paramedic is pretty cute. old one probably was cuter, but I'm content. I hope Ocelot and EVA are still as attractive as they were in the old one.
Ocelot can be seeing here. Though he's blurry, he's easy to recognize.
I wonder if they will make his face a little rounder to look closer to The Boss, though it would also depends on The Sorrow too, he took from both of his parents;
I still remember seeing that cutscene for the first time and how hyped I was seeing Ocelot as a young buck getting shown up hard by this Snake character who I somehow didn't yet realize was actually Big Boss.
I love MGS3 Ocelot as even if he's a trilple agent, he's still young and inexperienced and make a lot of mistake + his emotions clearly betrays him. It's really one of the rare time where he's not playing everyone else.
Or at least, not playing as much. When Volgin launch the nuke, he genuinely looks a little panicked.
After this, his sacrificed all his believes for the ones of Big Boss. Just like his mother with America in a way...
>Konami says sorry >Kojima comes back >he brings Kojipro and they make MGS6 with creation of Outer Heaven and ends as a remake of MG1
how would you react?
Most of the current Kojipro do not share the staff of the old one. In fact, there's more veterans at Konami right now than the current Kojipro.
Even a smaller spin off like MGsurvive had more veteran staff than Death Stranding. And i'm not saying that to shit on Kojima, it's just the truth.
Kojima is busy anyway with DS2, Od, and Physint. Which I hope for the later will be something original and not "remember I made metal Gear? the game"
That's different than a dedicated piss and cum button and other 11 year old tier humor that kojima suggests like that minute and a half cassette you can broadcast to guards of a dude literally SHITTING IN PAIN in mgsv
Survive wasn't a bad game and I will die on this hill. Sure it was a weird spin off like the acid games but it was a pretty damn complete game from a gameplay pov and there was clearly some care put into it.
I've thought about trying to get my one buddy to get that so I can give it another whirl. I didn't really understand it when I played it the first time.
What many need to realize is that the story mode isn't the focus of the game, the salvage mission mode is from a gameplay POV. as Survive is first and foremost a tower defense shooter. However, you still need to play the story to unlock key gameplay elements, and many people didn't bothered playing more than the story.
Even the enemy AIs works much better in the salvage mission mode, because for most of them, they were not originally made for the open world, as the single player mode was developed later, it's already impressive they managed to make a pretty long one despite the low budget and short dev time.
I don't get how people give a frick about Hayter or Kojima or any behind the scenes drama
Like holy frick are you bored housewife with nothing else to gossip about? I'm here to talk about video games
some people just like playing us vs them
it's sort of like how metallica and megadeth fans are, while others are just happy with both bands existing
I loved death stranding and I'm looking forward to more potential metal gear.
that's probably why the game has the over the shoulder aiming and crouch walk. I love the original to death but it clearly doesn't control like a modern game.
Snake Eater was made at a period in time where the series had one foot in the old and one foot in the modern. Every game before it had similar controls to that and they worked, but adding large open environments, more verticality, and a larger focus on gunplay, it wasn't quite there yet when Snake Eater released. Kojima learned his lesson as made clear in Subsistence and then especially in MGS4.
having the MGSV control scheme also fixes the problem of missing those pressure sensitive buttons, too, I forgot about that. I actually never liked the pressure sensitive inputs in MGS. I always felt like the guns discharged anyway half the time even if I was letting the button go as lightly as I could.
technically they already did a fix for that on 3DS, xbox and the current collection. though it's a little clunky on the collection. I actually really liked the 3DS controls (photocamo was fricking busted though).
It's been a while but I seem to recall savagely slitting guards throat because you needed to LIGHTLY press the button to interrogate and full press to cold blood murder
it was L3 to interrogate, holding circle was just to keep them in your grip. if you mashed you'd break their neck, hold it hard and you'd slit their throats. and I dunno I thought it was implemented very well, I almost never had any issues with it once I understood how it worked. I've only ever played with official dual shock 2s though.
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it did work fine but i slit a bunch of throats by accident until I got the feel of it. MGS4 and especially V really improved on CQC a lot.
ironically, the tentative title screen they have shown back in March was the same title screen as the 3DS version too. It really takes from every version of MGS3
Yeah, and 5's sniper bosses still are fun, especially the Skulls one in the Code Talker mission
Like you can still kinda cheese it with the Rocket Punch but even that takes some work to get into position to use it effectively at the right range, you have four b***hes trying to kill you instead of one and they will always jump away after getting hit in a way that you can't track them. Even the bigger arena make things more interesting since they're much harder to track and you could be getting shot from anywhere but conversely it might also be easier to hide. And you still got a mission after you face them, and how you deal with them has consequences for the rest of the mission
It's just a flat out improvement over The End
Imagine getting a CS or an art degree to become a game developer and then your sole purpose is to dress a another man's superior game for a ADAH zoomer audience. Remake devs are cucks by definition
why not remake 1 then 2 then 3. Why snaked eater of all games, atleast if they make 1 people who didn't play the original games will have a sequel to looks forward to. MGS3 has no sequel that needs remaking unless they do peace walker which i doubt they'll do
it's literally confirmed that many key dev of the remake are veterans, and even though there's new team members too, the project is also made as a test ground for the new team.
>it's literally confirmed that many key dev of the remake are veterans
which is sad because that means the people that were there for the facescan of quiet have devolved in skill so much they turned Boss into marcus fenix
I think they just wanted to age her a bit, but who knows, maybe it's just bad camera or they will change things a bit, even if the game seems pretty late in dev, they can still do a few changes
>I think they just wanted to age her a bit
she looks younger than the original Boss though. younger but more masculine. I really don't care about it because I'm more worried about whether the game will still be fun or not, but if they intended to make her look more aged than in the old one then they failed.
Pachislot Snake looks cursed now
Pachislot often "beautify" characters, but now, it really looks weird.
Delta is the opposite and made everything a bit more dirty.
Modern Audiences simply means people who play games today. But it has become a new right wing grifter boogeyman to discredit what developers make and pretend they all should cater to them only and no other audience besides them exist.
Baldurs Gate 3, Spiderman 2, God of war , was for modern audiences too. Hell even Stellar slopa was for modern audiences too.
"Modern audience" is such an amorphous term that it pretty much means nothing. Could mean tightening up the gameplay, could mean sanding down all the edges so easily offended tards won't throw a shit-fit over black facepaint or Eva's TNA.
Define "modern audiences"
>Define "modern audiences"
A new generation of potential fans that don't know about the franchise is the wording that was used. That is why Snake Eater was chosen as the best entry point. Also the game is keeping the same legacy camera (if you want to use it), the same original voice acting, story, cutscenes and locations. So essentially the game is treating the original game as sacred which is what nostalgiagays also wanted. This isn't a Resident Evil 4 downgrade
I played through Metal Gear Solid V and really liked the gameplay but the story was really confusing. I was thinking of picking this one up if it plays similarly.
>A new generation of potential fans that don't know about the franchise
But those people don't exist
>A new generation of potential fans
I laugh every time
These suits are so desperate for magical markets that don't exist it's quality entertainment to watch them flounder constantly never learning the lesson
You'd think someone would buck up and tell them those potentials don't exist
>That is why Snake Eater was chosen as the best entry point.
Snake Eater was chosen because it's the one that most fans of the series unanimously agree was good and thereby the only one that "modern audiences" see: homosexuals on twitter and discord care about and are likely to buy so they don't miss out on whatever people on their timeline are talking about.
>A new generation of potential fans
When are suits going to learn that gen A and down are not humans
>This isn't a Resident Evil 4 downgrade
Re4 remake being a proper remake with overhauled things is why it succeeded critically and commercially.
Dead space remake failed because it was basically 1:1 and the same is most likely going to be true for Silent hill 2 remake and metal gear delta.
but SH2 is like RE
Dead place also had good sales, EA just were moronic
RE4make was a bunch of astroturfed hype over a game that's already forgotten
No one looks back at RE4make and thinks about how it revolutionized the industry like they do for the original RE4. Because it did the exact opposite and stole a bunch of mechanics from other more popular things regardless of whether or not they made sense in RE4. It's a downgrade no matter how you slice it
Finkcore
I heard they added gays, a LITERAL girlboss, and pride camo in the remake
West has fallen
>pride camo
gays dont own the rainbow anon.
kojima has always been pro lgbt.
ROBOT WITH DICKS
>"But I am not a gay"
doesn't he regularly like Death Stranding yaoi?
>N worder USA
Disrespecting our country by using our own invention against us...stings
Don't you get like -60% camo index or something by wearing that in the woods
it worked well in the grass I think, can't remember how it was elsewhere.
non-moronic control scheme
that's it
morons
People that aren't incels.
So nobody
Snake will be an antiracist transgender ally, long monologues about whiteness.
Deranged nutcases on Twitter that will scream a lot but will never actually buy the product.
Jews pay to remove boobs since their schizo women are too jealous and insecure
ME ME ME
IM REPRESENTATION ME INCLUSION
ME PROBLEMS WE ARE FACING TODAY
ME NOW MORE THAN EVER
Funko pop collectors and pink haired wine aunts
Leftoids obsessed with identity politics.
homosexuals and trannies
Transwomen of color
homosexuals anon, homosexuals.
The game needs to be 200gb for some reason and run at 30fps or lower on a 4090 and strong cpu?
PS5 players instead of PS2 players
A vague corporate talking point about trying to appeal to a demographic that doesn't exist. At least when they said "We want the Call of Duty Audience", you could actually point to something.
braindead and condescending
Troons
Homosexuals and minority political activists.
Homosexual characters in Metal Gear are in like half the games kek
It was this, though fox engine also was a real b***h to develop with beside for a few minority of staff.
i miss the fox engine
its now dead
Having some characters that you discover are gays is a thing.
Making the whole bread and circus a propaganda media for politic is another.
We want your purchase again. But, we also don't want to look at the source material. It would be too problematic for our outsourced indian coders.
"with controls changed around a bit so that zoomers don't have a melty over the game not controlling exactly the same as all the other games they play"
Social media morons
It means that the old games were made for PS2 and the industry has evolved and this new game is updated version.
zoomers and streamers
"homosexuals"
People that won't even play the game but still get offended
why does it look like one of those fan made UE5 "remakes"
Because it's using UE5? The most soulless engine out there right now. Such a shame so many studious are moving away from in house engines.
it's not using the TPP engine?
Nope, instead you get mcdonalds happy meal engine
The Fox Engine? No, they've abandoned that. They did MG: Survive and PES games with it, before throwing it in the trash like 4 years ago. Now they just use fricking Unreal for everything.
I think it's because Fox Engine is outdated and won't work with PS5 and whatever the new Xbox is called era.
>Fox Engine is outdated and won't work with PS5
That's completely impossible. All they have to do is run the source code through the compiler for the console and it will work. The real problem is no publisher wants to use in house engines because it means they can't just sign on hoards of temp programmers from anywhere and expect instant results from them because they have to spend time learning how the engine works first. Going to unreal or other common engines means the hoard of temp programmers know how the engine works already and can get started immediately.
Its a crime to vidya they dont just dump the source code online as freeware and let people make shit with it. Such a good engine.
No it's not using the Fox engine because it was designed over a decade ago for PS3/360 hardware that's approaching 20 years old.
>game can't handle more than 11 NPCs on screen without crashing
>>game can't handle more than 11 NPCs on screen without crashing
but enough about UE5
fox engine can actually how a lot more than 11 people without limitations, see MGsurvive which can show 100 guys if not more
>>game can't handle more than 11 NPCs on screen without crashing
wasn't it specifically like that because of the ps3 and xbox 360. They couldn't handle more than 11 NPCs not the engine itself. Plus i think mgsv is one of the greatest looking games despite how optimized and how it can run on any shitbox (i played it on an intel uhd laptop and it looked so fricking good and played at a constant 60 fps)
It's because moronic new coders can only use Unreal and apparently cant learn anything else
Anon when most other engine are a b***h to use without much additions, it's just a matter of being clever. If you had ever developed a game, you would know an engine doesn't make the game too
>soulless
Oh no, the moron gave up.
This isn't necessarily a bad thing. MGS3's controls and menus were never great. A lot can be done to make it better, even if it's to target 'modern audiences'.
Delusional
David Hayter is a hack, just like Kojimbo.
Hayter has massive TDS so what do you expect?
Why the frick should Hayter feel any loyalty to that hack Kojima who fired him just to hang out with a c-list celebrity who gave the worst lead performance ever in MGSV? Hayter played MGSV eventually and found it fun, the gameplay is the one thing everyone agrees isn't too bad, he was most offended at how badly Snake was treated in that game and rightfully so.
Hayter is a fricking voice actor. He’s nothing. No one who even know who he was without kojima. He was asked to do a voice, then let it all “you’re the legendary Snake!” lines go to his head. Its like hiring a janitor to clean your office, but he starts hanging around board meetings trying to tell you how to run things, thinking the company would fail if he wasn’t cleaning the toilets. He’s an absolute diva, and still salty as frick. One of the most unprofessional people in the business. And he has zero range.
ok kojima.
Shut up, Kojima. I bet you're still salty Kurt Russell turned down your game while also calling you a nobody trying to rip off Carpenter.
hayters gonna hayt.
Let's be honest, Kiefer was a MUCH better voice actor than Hayter. Hayter always stuck out like a sore thumb which his cartoonish dialogue that bordered parody. I'm glad he got replaced.
Hayter is like a 4kids level dub actor, Kiefer is kino
Kiefer barely voiced or acted in his voice acting performance
Hayter's performances have always matched the tone of the productions he was in, he might have been a bit campy but all the MGSes he was in were a campy affair in general
Regardless of the campiness, none of the other leads sound as horrible as him. Not just that, the japanese voice sounds different for Big Boss and Snake but Hayter sounds the exact same showing his absolute lack of range. He's trash, and his same god awful voice being back is the one problem I have with the remake.
>but Hayter sounds the exact same
I've no horse in this race but have you ever thought that's how he was directed
what does otsuka do differently for solid and naked?
>Kiefer barely voiced or acted in his voice acting performance
Kojima watched DRIVE and cut all his fricking dialogue to be le cool stoic silent protagonist. How many cutscenes are just snake autistically staring into the distance? Not shitting either and then people wonder why Konami sacked the dumbass for hemorrhaging their money with shit like hiring a big name actor and cutting all their dialogue or designing a brand new game engine from the ground up.
>Kojima watched DRIVE and cut all his fricking dialogue to be le cool stoic silent protagonist.
this shit wouldn't surprise me after seeing that picture of Kojima wearing the gawdy ass DRIVE jacket
He said it himself on Twitter, something like the dialogue being "Kaz are you alright?" to just "Kaz?"
Me at the top right.
I think Kiefer or maybe someone else from the production said it too, that 90% of his VA was cut out.
This, Kiefer outperformed hayter with ease and did it with less dialogue.
>Kiefer was a MUCH better voice actor than Hayter.
I'm going to say no on.this one. And not because I think it's such sacrilege to replace the original VA or whatever. Even at the time I thought all the people b***hing about it were fricking moronic. It's more so because Snake barely talks in MGSV. I can't praise Kiefer in that role when the dude barely says a word. He probably had that shit recorded a day or two. Easy pay check for him I guess.
Doesn't change the fact that the one page he voiced sounds much better than anything Hayter has voiced.
I can't remember any iconic lines from Kiefer but can remember many from Hayter. I think MGS for Playstation has my all time favorite voice acting in a game.
>I can't remember any iconic lines from Kiefer
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Now imagine Hayter doing this line in his corny ass gruff tryhard voice.
>Now imagine Hayter doing this line in his corny ass gruff tryhard voice
sauce?
<3
please? It's /ss/ isn't it?
Yes
Ruined
Perfect.
>/ss/
FRICKING SAUCE NOW homosexual HOLY FRICK
COME ON ANON GIMMIE THE SAUCE BEFORE THE THREAD DIES FRICK
please anon...i NEED this.....
Sunny Early Summer by Coupe
first half of the lines are so fricking flat, he's mumbling through it
gets better the longer it goes on
Kiefer mumbles way too much and it is objectively worse than Hayter who enunciates clearly
He's nearly blackout drunk in the studio anon. What's hayters excuse?
>I can't remember any iconic lines from Kiefer
Eh, I still disagree. It's like if an actor has a 5 minute cameo in a movie. You're never going to be blown away by that small role, no matter how great they are. Although now I think of Christopher Walkens cameo in Pulp Fiction and realise that's a dumb analogy. Anyway, enjoy your opinion.
Kiefer actually recorded a lot, Kojima just cut it all because he decided to make Snake a silent protagonist at the last second.
>Kiefer was a MUCH better voice actor than Hayter.
gtfo
>Kiefer was a MUCH better voice actor
LMAO
>sheshurfife...
>fine... i like gorgonzola anyway..
Let it go Hayter you never should have been cast as both protagonist and antagonist that doesn't even make sense
Otsuka mogged them both
Speaking of which, delta might finally have the option to get japanese voices with english sub
nice
Dude, it’s time to let your American politics bullshit go. Donald Trump would sell your family for a dollar. He’s never struggled, he was born into unimaginable wealth, he is not your saviour or your friend, and he literally couldn’t care about anything except himself. Dude is dumb as rock, selfish as it gets, and arguably the most dishonest man in all of politics, short of George santos.
He’s an embarrassment to your nation and you need to stop letting a fricking politician define your personality.
Who gives a frick whether a man who does voice work in videogames likes your pick for president?
I like how he has essentially ruined that bullshit term
inb4 crying troons
Ah yes, some literal who did that
I am not even watching him but he interviewed Russel Crowe and that's definitely not literal who.
>modern audiences
oh so that's why they woked it up and made Boss look like a man
Pachinko Boss looks perfect wtf.
Yeah we get it you posted these in the last thread
Pachinko Boss actually looks like a woman, unlike the demake where she looks like Willem Dafoe from Platoon.
you guys have demonstrated time and again that you cant recognize a cis women anymore and are just perpetually regurgitating politically motivated fake outrage for the sake of just being outraged
it's unintentionally funny because it goes to show that HRT does work and make people look like actual women, don't believe the memes
samegay
>muh bots, muh samegay
nah, you're just unlikable and unpopular to normal people
you're a troony so you wouldn't even know what normal is
I'm not one, but you're so terminally online that you think that everyone including cis women are lol
dilate
tell your mom that since you think that everyone is trans
I forgot that camo existed. If they add all special camos, nuGanker will shit themselves screaming trannies when they see it.
I like how Subsistence added shit like DPM and Flecktarn. Looked cool.
wouldn't surprise me if they removed flecktarn in the remake
Why would they remove Flecktarn? It's historically accurate post-war camo, you stupid overreacting Black person.
>It's historically accurate post-war camo
i know
it's still associated with muh nazis tho
im not saying they strictly will remove it, just that it wouldn't surprise me. some people screech about iron crosses and those aren't strictly nazi-related either.
>it's still associated with muh nazis tho
No it's not.
mindbroken chud
>a cis women
opinion discarded
i would frick the boss, pachinko boss and topper harley but not nu boss.
You can´t convince me right is not Sylvester Stallone.
Pachinko boss looks like what i would imagine her IRL
Man..
i don't think its da joos, this is sheer konami incompetence. The model looks moronic, especially the eyebrows and brow ridge which is what makes her look like a man
I think it's more creative liberties to show her more tired of it all. It's different but I think it still work well. She's an almost 50 years old soldier who is pretty much done with life as she's heading to a suicide mission and is going to betray the person she trusted the most.
Though I'd like to see her with her normal outfit.
While some staffs enjoyed it, there was a lot of issues with the engine behind the scene, especially with new and younger staffs. It's why many in-house engine got retired in general in the japanese industry. It cost too much money and time to train new people on it every time. And many still disliked using it.
i don't even want her too look like a hot 20 year old bimbo, i just want her to look like a woman her age (emphasis on the woman part). Maybe it's a weird shot and she'll actually look better in gameplay but who knows. I don't know if this comparaison is apt but when i look at pic rel i get neaderthal vibes.
she looks a little weird in that one second clip of her approaching and doing that cold stare. I need to a whole cutscene and see her in motion before I make a judgement.
She's a bit more strong faced but she still look like a women to me, just a very hard one, the one who beat your ass in a bootcamp.
though the shadow/lighting could be in effect too, like back when MGSV GZ was announced, everyone thought "man big boss is old as frick" but it turns out it was all an illusion.
i'm hoping (and somewhat expecting) that this is a bad shot and she'll look good enough in the game. But who knows with konami
or how about they make her look like the character she's supposed to be
they're transitioning from an anime-ish artstyle to hyper realistic so you can't really expect a 1:1. Even snake looks different from big boss from mgsv and it's not because he aged. However i gotta say they did a shit job in that transition
I mean he still look pretty damn good imo
Kojima is still very important, you can say many other people were important too, that's a fact, but Kojima still directed all the main games. (though there was attempt at more main game without him, but they all got issues back then, external or internal, it was a long time ago though)
i was referring to the boss's transition, snake looks fine
She look like her son. Ocelot truly was a momma boy
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. Nu-Boss looks great, not a one-to-one recreation but if you showed me a pic and said "That's The Boss" I wouldn't question it. If anything she looks younger than the OG. I'm a gay so I'm not talking from experience, but she looks hotter here than the pachinko remake. She looked kinda homely in the pachinko version, very gaunt and her eyes look sunken in. There's plenty of examples of uggo chicks in modern vidya, and characters being made uggo, but people are so fricking fixated on it that they're reaching waaaaay too far for examples.
Each time they remade the boss she looked a bit different anyway, even on mobile
She looks manlier here than Nu-Boss.
I wonder why nobody made a big deal about this. Is it because this whole "she looks like a man" is the newest trend for incels?
MGS social ops never released in the west and only was available in japan for a year before GREE having issues with it, it closed in late 2013.
Though there's also this version done for MGS 3D promo art in 2012
and then there's the pachislot version
Best version
I bought this skin for MGSV
>Flaming BRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAPS
I know people about her looking like david bowie but she legit does look almost exactly like david bowie right here. just needs a nasty snaggletooth poking out.
I don't mind the look but I still feels like it doesn't really look like her outside of the headband and hair. I do think people are way overreacting though, she doesn't look THAT bad, and we also haven't even seen the model in motion talking yet.
She was always modeled after David Bowie. You're mentally ill.
thats a myth, anon. there is someone she's modeled after, and its an actress that looks identical to her whos name escapes me. but david bowie = the boss was a meme that i see every other anon thinking its real
I just want it to play like MGSV
>david "the crybaby" hayter
I'm out
they are adding the classic camera as well for whining homosexuals like you. what more do you want?
>Modern Audiences
So what are we saying.
Are they getting rid of the menu simulation bullshit?
Are we gonna get a weapon and camo wheel?
so it's shit
bro just stop saying that phrase
it's like a fricking curse or something, the second someone brings up "modern audiences" in a remake it always turns out shit
your just mad that the game was not made for you
let other people enjoy these games
are you moronic? that's the whole point of remakes.
it just seems to be that particular phrase. if someone in a dev video says it, it's like a bad omen. like the game will be horribly optimized or completely busted with bugs or have downright bizarre changes made to it that ruin it mechanically. hope it turns out alright, it's just bad juju to say "bringing it to a modern audience".
>"we have released three remakes so far and they have all been received very well. Since it allows a MODERN AUDIENCE to play these games, it is something I am happy to do as someone that loves these older games, and we want to continue doing more"
>director of RE4 remake
every remake is a scuffed version of the originals in one way or another. I don't think there has ever been a "good" remake in existence since they're all unnecessary cash grabs.
Bioshock remake was great.
bioshock only ever had a remaster and it had awful bugs like save game corruption.
Bioshock was always a miserable pile of casualized shit. Ken Levine is a hack.
>every remake is a scuffed version of the originals in one way or another.
Nah, talk shit about Konami's grifting if you like but Capcom has been hitting it out of the park with that RE engine. Those RE engine games have reasonable filesizes, look fricking amazing and play great. RE2 is one of the best games of all time and they did it justice with the remake.
They even put the fricking tofu survivor in there. MGS HD collection couldn't even have the ape escape or skateboarding stuff in it.
I hope it plays like 5 but without the slowmo shit
>j-j-just turn it off!
How about not designing the game around it and having the entire base alerted a split second after I'm spotted?
that happens in every mgs but 2
just get good
specially on using cqc in a sequence
>that happens in every mgs but 2
and 3
if you took out the radio guys in 3 the rest of the enemy guards were fricked and could only rely on other guards who were close by for reinforcements.
you'd still get an alert, no?
in 2 the guards have to call in the alert, so, even when they see you, you still have until they warn about you on the radio - sometimes then even try to hide before doing it
I could've sworn there were dedicated radio guys in 3. I think it might be a false memory. I remember dudes walking around with the radio module on their back with an antennae and red lights on it.
>designing the game around it
what
with the exception of I think only two missions of scripted bullshit (Blood Runs Deep and A Quiet Exit), almost every mission is designed around the idea that you don't even need to fricking do anything to the guards at all to complete it. Frick, I love the No Traces bonus, I just wish the game stuck to it a little harder conceptually
>"modern"
Whenever I hear that moronic meme in the context of a vide game, I avoid the product as if it's an even more virulent plague than "easy to pick up; hard to master".
>everything was build from the ground up
Fricking ESLs
>what he meant: we added modern conveniences
>what incels hear: we made everybody a trans black lesbian women who hate white men and america
jfc the pol brainrot it real
They should work on phrasing then. Nobody uses the "modern audiences" and doesn't mean blue haired troony homosexuals.
Why should they care about what you think
Go defend the hundred other abominations that have tried appealing to this "modern audience". You people don't exist. It's all crying and complaining but you never turn up.
Why should I have to? You’re the one shitting your pants having an overreaction on what you think it means. Then getting mad that you assumption was in fact incorrect and that people should control their language around your mindset
He literally says "built from the ground up for modern consoles" when talking about UE5 in the video. Not once does he mention modern audiences. Stop lying you stupid israelite Black person.
>Hayter
>2024
Why? Modern audiences don't buy shit!
>almost all of the original voice acting
W-who is missing???
if i had to guess anyone it'd be EVA since she was always kept secret for some reason.
lets be real they probs are removing all the sexual scenes so Eva only has like 3 lines.
EVA is so clearly like an enemy agent who is trying to use her sex appeal to tempt Snake the whole game even though she's contextual ally, it's going to really bother me if people are bothered by that. Like do they really think that female spies wouldn't do shit like that?
This shit is the same like Alfred Ashford from re code Veronica, they think he is trans and not Norman Bates homage of a broken man larping as his twin sister, Eva point is being sexy but eventually you see her more than her sex appeal
Also I assume the Raikov part will be censored too
>Also I assume the Raikov part will be censored too
you mean him being naked in a thong, or Volgin grabbing Snake's junk when you're disguised as him?
You don't grab your friends dick randomly to make sure they're still them and not an imposter?
It makes perfect sense for Volgin though. Dude's a fricking sex pest.
>friends
You mean boyfriend. There's probably a really good reason why volgin was rough with eva and soft with raikov. He's a degenerate sex pest, but he appeared to be in some sort of relationship with the twink.
I wonder how newcomers are going to react to the scenes of Snake having the absolute tar beaten out of him by Volgin. Those were actually really brutal IIRC.
I wonder if this engine can recreate that
That said I wouldn't mind a remake like this for sh3
yes now its 2024 and women can charm you with their wit and knowledge! The seducing with their breasts is reserved for twitch
Yeah let's worry about shit that isn't going to happen and cry a lot.
Trying to pretend this game is going to be pozzed is one of the most forced things I've seen this shithole do in a while
i don't care about pozzing. i just care about the cursed phrase. now the game will turn out to be horribly optimized or to have mechanical alterations that ruin it or something, all because they couldn't help themselves and spoke their name.
konami actually fixed the collection. that's something unheard of.
what did they do?
patched plenty of issues. It's currently at v1.5.1 and they still have some qol updates according to the OP video.
for all the games or just MGS1?
what were some of the issues it had? i sort of ignored the collection after it hit and everyone said it was busted, I figured they would never fix it since it's Konami.
it's an assortment of fixes for all the games. you should check their patch notes in steam.
how much you wanna bet that EVA won't show any cleavage?
100%, but I think she'll otherwise look ok since Paramedic looks fine. Though there's always a risk that Paramedic gets to be an exception because she spends the game behind a codec filter.
Power word: Kill
Game looks cool. Features OG camera scheme and voice acting. Shot for shot cutscenes. Fine with me.
I'm actually excited after seeing all this (although boss's face is a little bit of a letdown since she looks so different from the original) but I can't help but feel like there is going to be a massive catch revealed at some point before release. Konami can't be doing something this correctly.
>Designed for modern audiences
>They've not shown Eva yet
Uh oh
Bro if I have to look at one more video of this smug frick quietly smirking to himself how he thinks he got one over on kojima I’m never touching metal gear again (outside of V).
so does Hayter know Japanese to comprehend what the other guy is saying or is he just pretending to acknowledge what he says by nodding when he doesn't understand shit? lol
I like Hayter, he looks like discount Karl urban.
Wow, the Stellar Blade incels are really going places!
I like the part where the game director (or whatever his job title is) made a groveling apology about the state of the MGS legacy collection.
>I thought you guys were gonna eat that shit up like you do with Nintendo remakes, but it didn't fly. I'm sorry sumimasen, we'll try harder next time
This looks like shit and the shuffling on the bridge was hilarious
no kojima no buy
Why are they using UE5 and not the Fox Engine?
David Hater
Cum Crusader
Well yeah, it's a modern game for modern audience. Every modern game will be made for modern audience. Did you expect them to make the game for 40 year old old fricks who don't play video toys?
>Did you expect them to make the game for 40 year old old fricks who don't play video toys?
That's what SquareEnix refused to do with FFVII Remake and now Rebirth flopped hard.
No, I expect them to release a shittier version of a game that people have spent decades reminiscing about since the company making it hasn't been able to make a better game since they released the original.
On that note, why do people expect them to suddenly start now?
I'm hyped for this game. The gameplay in MGSV was god tier and Snake Eater with that gameplay is going to be really good.
it was a nice touch that they added in a mode with a top down camera and the old controls just for curiosity's sake, too. I hope you can switch between them on the fly.
They're not using the Fox Engine, it won't have that level of gameplay.
>modern audiences
i was already dodging this because its a remake
now im going to dodge it even harder
this modern audience shit is getting ridiculous
it looks legitimately good so far, but yeah "modern audiences" is quite a loaded phrase these days.
People are acting like this game is going to replace the orignal. You already have the original and now you're going to get a new take on the game. Don't like the new game? Play the original. It's a win win.
yeah i don't really get the replacement talk either
twin snakes never played mgs1, this won't either.
>never played mgs1
never replaced it* that is
wtf
I can understand the type of sentiment when it comes to games like Demon's Souls or Dead Space. They aren't porting those games, the original servers are down, etc.
But when it comes to MGS, Konami has done a good job keeping the collection available now and updating it to fix issues. So I'm totally fine with having both available. It'll be a good way to experience it again.
>we want to appeal to a modern audience.
man those hobbit movies were shit
what were they thinking
I did find the beginning scenes of the first one pretty amusing though
>what were they thinking
Shitting out a 3rd movie when the scenario was almost fully done for 2 movies (which was already 1 too many for the book size)
this was the only good scene in the entire set compared to the LOTR trilogy
Just watched all three LOTR movies the last 3 days in theaters again and it's unbelievable how hard those movies frick. Nothing compares to them.
make sure to find some good copies of them and back them up several times. those will be targeted someday for the george lucas treatment by someone.
My wife's son loves them and I tried to show him the Hobbit films and he hated them.
>My wife's son loves them
Yeah, nothing's going to touch those. All well thought out, everyone on board passion for the project, all shot in one go, as little reliant on cgi as possible. Exactly how a trilogy should be done.
Reminder to every Hayter "fan" that he's a pathetic sycophant who spent YEARS trying to get into Kojimbo's pants.
There's nobody I have less respect for in the western gaming industry, and that's a low fricking bar.
I mean, isn't the point of EVA to tempt the Snake? Also later when you choose first person Snake doesn't look at her boobs but her eyes
Is this the part where we ignore literally everything else they said to focus and exaggerate a single sentence?
kys redditman
You don't care about video games, you care about complaining about video games.
good morning saar
Thank you for continuing to prove my point
whatever helps you cope poojeet
Thank God I played MGS games in japanese
Don't care what The Boss looks like tbh.
If they make Eva ugly then that'll be a travesty.
they won't
wouldn't surprise if they de-sex her outfit though, even though it's literally a part of her character.
I wonder if this game will have Japanese voices at all, because I'm sure most of them are friends with Kojima.
Pretty sure modern Konami are purely chasing the western audience. Doubt anyone with an actual well paying job will want to piss off kojimbo to continue working on MGS, only third rates like Hayter who have nothing else to do.
>pre-order goes up
>no release date
the frick
Hayter is a lunatic who has desperately latched onto this one role because it's the only thing that makes him still relevant. You hear him in other games he voice acted in and he's outright bad.
He was always a one-trick pony, of course he was gonna pathetically latch onto the only thing that put him on the map for the rest of his life after his film career flopped.
He's way more famous as a screenplay writer.
>famous
This is literally a 1:1 remake, so whatever that means I guess they just mean visuals.
>We really wanted to put in the stuff we left on the cutting room floor like the snake jacking off mini game or the scene where the soldiers are shidding and farding in the outhouse and you have to sneak by or else get shit on
Good riddance I say
That is hideo!!
not Kojima!!
is there gonna be a nip audio option? i've actually never played through an MGS with otsuka's voice
You'd still be reading the atrocious English scripts, what would be the point?
>what would be the point?
i'd get to hear otsuka's glorious voice speaking
Otsuka was Die Hardman in Death Stranding and is friends with Kojima so I think he's out.
>Otsuka was Die Hardman in Death Stranding
damn can i play DS in japanese? maybe i should give that game another replay.
also, to be fair, I feel like otsuka is in goddamned everything.
hayter is such a fricking homosexual holy shit
He didn't say it was made for modern audiences, he said they remastered the audio quality for modern audiences. Story and dialogue is kept the same because they are reusing the original audio from 2003.
Reminder if this does well we will get MGS6 minus the weird coombrain shit or piss and shit humor without kojima.
>we will get MGS6
Let franchises stay dead. There's no need to milk them
What do you think this remake is?
Something unnecessary, like 99% of remakes
unnecessary maybe but it's a smart move on their part. they don't have to do any design and MGS3 is the game in the series that most people say is the best and the one that normalgays all pretend to know about but have never played. it's a good opportunity to make good money with minimal effort.
the entire reason they are doing this remake is to gauge whether or not it would be worth it to keep this studio open to make future MGS games. whether that means more remakes or original titles isn't known.
they should start over at MG1 and completely reimagine it
Kojimbo is a hack fraud that burns money. His team deserves all the credit not him. MG Survive was kino but you homosexuals couldn't appreciate it, just like MGS6 would have you Kojimbo-drones whining because it's easy to understand and doesn't have 12hrs of useless dialogue
Kojimbo BAD
Mgs team GOOD
>Mgs team GOOD
Didn't most of the mgs team go with Kojima?
idk, but look at the game difference:
$200mil game of "Krusty Krab Pizza"
or
Low budget well made spooky survival game that adds to MGSV
MGS Survive did a good job with a low budget while Debt Stranded is forgotten
Death Stranding isn't forgotten, but I feels like it got a pretty different audience than MG fans.
And I say this as someone who enjoyed the game.
I just finished phantom pain for the third time since 2015 or whatever and I think it's time to give survive a chance but like hell I'm paying 30 dollars for it
It's often in promotions at like 5 bucks.
You will be ashamed of your words and deeds when you find out why her breasts and pussy meat is falling out
The only thing that I hope this does is remove loading zones, and combine all The End zones into one.
If they manage to have the original vision for The End boss fight, that would be awesome.
The problem is the AI, sets and challenges are all made with the original controls in mind.
The new control will make it too easy (third person over the shoulder camera just shows how small the jungle is for instance). If you make the whole game in one swoop without loading it fricks the entire thing up.
I don't think they can fix that.
I'm fine with it as long as we get the giant arena for The End fight like we were supposed to have
its probably the controls because it no longer has pressure sensitive face buttons.
Konami seems dedicated to make it a perfect remake
Or a journalist mode. The npc enemies were already near oblivious but they could make them dumber.
ENOUGH.
ENTER
truly one of the greatest gaming videos on the entirety of Youtube.
I really should finally get around to emulating Snake vs Monkey
>it's bad because uhhh the talentless hack Kojima isn't involved
>it's bad because uhhh no piss filter
>it's bad because uhhh The Boss still doesn't look like a gacha waifu therefore it's WOKE
You morons really are desperate to shit on everything.
>it's bad because uhhh The Boss still doesn't look like a gacha waifu therefore it's WOKE
it's mostly that she doesn't even look like she's the same character
her face is unrecognizable whereas Snake, Zero, and Paramedic are all immediately recognizable
curious to see what Ocelot, EVA, and Volgin look like, I wonder if they will look significantly different from their original versions like Boss does.
The fact that the boss isn't a MAN still ruins the franchise. Imagine simping for a bio hole in 2024
Ganker isn't even as bad as zoomers in youtube comments, they called literally every game in Xbox showcase woke (when it was more like half of them) it's probably a leftist strategy to comically call every game woke
Did we watch the same xbox shitshow? Cause it was 90% pozzed and even the normalgays on israelitetube called it out because of how obvious it's getting at this point.
>"modern audiences"
people that don't play video games
He means the play-feel. The original's control was dogshit.
It was perfectly fine for the time, it will be nicer having MGSV movement in the remake though, assuming that's what they are going for and pull it off. I am glad they are also including the legacy camera and control scheme just to be thorough.
The original's controls were perfect for a stealth game. Of course the shooting controls are shit, they're your punishment for getting caught
The only actual improvements to the controls since then have all been a part of expanding the CQC system. Everything else has just been making the series less like Metal Gear and more like Gears of War
>if you increase the resolution for MGS3HD, it shrinks the size of post processing effects
>Konami said they're looking into increasing the resolutions available for the HD collection
I wonder if they're looking into a way to have the post processing effects look right, or if they'll just say frick it and let people increase the resolution either way
I think what puts me off most about MGS Delta is the janky animations. It really does remind me of those old UE4 remake vids where they basically plonk high fidelity models in to the engine but then the animations, effects etc dont keep up with them. Doing the environments are easy in UE5 as they can be scanned in, same goes for faces. But the actual quality of the animation etc looks no way near on par with the rest of the visuals.
how ass mad and furious is Kojima seeing David Hayter back in the spotlight
>Kojima tried his best to Hayter off and remove him from the MGS series
>Kojimbo gets fired
>Hayter is the FACE of the MGS series for Konami
he should see if he could get them to let him do a voiceover of
>kept you waiting, huh?
when you click the main title to get the options to start game or load game. Like a little dig at kojima
>i'm back
Delta is Death Stranding 2. Kojima never left, it's all part of the plan.
Kojima is trash and now the dust has finally settled the truth is coming out
see
for all the DOGSHIT ideas Kojima tried to force into MGS. thankfully his staff managed to tard wrangle him.
one day i expect the truth of who was behind all of the good conceps and ideas in MGS will be revealed and it won't be Hideo israelitejima
Where did this idea come from? I thought he just wanted a new voice and face in mgs5 where did the hate come from?
Kojima has been trying to get rid of Hayter as far back as MGS3.
It's just kneejerk reaction to the first initial "kojima is god blabla" when it turns out it wasnt just him (considering how later games there were few things and more pathetic celeb-worship and B movie shit)
he doesn't dislike Hayter or anything, he just wanted star power in his game because he has a Hollywood fetish, and he didn't see the English cast of MGS as being some sort of iconic thing that you can't ever change like what happens with Japanese voice casts. Pretty sure he also said that Otsuka is THE voice in his own mind.
Kojima never directed any of the english voicecast of MG.
Even for V, where he picked Kiefer and Quiet, those were still not directed by him. He only directed the japanese cast.
Kris Zimmerman directed the english voice cast of all japanese games (including games not by Kojima too)
Kojima first time directing in english was Death Stranding.
I mean that makes sense he cant speak english but I am sure he gave notes or showed his intentions
He actually CAN speak english, he used to speak english in interviews in the 2000s, he just stopped and hired a guy to talk in his place
I thought it was just a shame thing. sure he can speak it but its not as clear as the movies he loves so he gets someone native
"1 000 000 troops!" guy is more powerful than him just for that
shut the frick kojidrone. it's not an idea, it's a fact.
the same way he tried to blackball the Joost after MGS5. he uses and abuses people on his path to working only with hollywood israelites
What the actual frick is wrong with Kojima?
>"I'm fine, its just my period." and then fall over dead.
and people think MGS was good BECAUSE of this sex pest inserting his weird incel shit and poop jokes and not the rest of the team saying "hey let's pull back on that a bit". Think of every dumbass coomer thing like the Easter egg of snake jacking off in a locker to jav shit or the johnny character who has to shit and piss and cum in battle and it's this idiot
and I just remembered one of the abilities in death stranding is throwing literal shit at enemies. what the FRICK is his problem
It's not literal shit, it's a chemical compound derived from it put into a grenade
did you just discover that Kojima was at his best when Fukushima was there to tard wrangle him or something? this has been a well known thing for like a decade now.
where's Caramel been?
would be funny if they removed picrel
>will be funny when they remove picrel
fixed it anon, you're welcome
well they better fricking make another face paint as good as it in nighttime segments if that's the case.
>made for modern audiences
you already know they wont anon. come on now.
MGS 3 was made for the modern audiences when 'modern' meant early 00s. It appealed to many then, so if it will appeal to them now, we're fricked. Straight up fricked.
I can't help but see the series itself as extremely dull and devoid of any originality.
I'm sure they just mean updated controls like maybe a dedicated grenade button and not whatever the frick you're thinking of but the series has always been a little zesty anyway.
It's a remake that revamps the gameplay without changing the story itself.
It shouldn't go well. MGS 3 is a poorly written, unengaging mess that's as dated as the hardware it initially released on.
It will go well.
You will buy the demakes and you will be happy
What'd they do? I know boss is butt ugly but did they make someone a troon or snake gay? I thought it was updated as in using MGS5s modern movement?
They just confirmed the only newly recorded stuff will be the controls. Just like what MGS 3DS did.
The modern feel they are talking about is the new control style (and the legacy control style confirmed they will also enable the original filter if you play that way) and the characters looking closer to the style of MGSV.
source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDCppzRLwpw
You people are complete idiots I swear
wonder how Zero's VA feels about how he just keeps coming back to tell Snake how to use buttons on new controllers.
I mean, he did this back for MGS 3D in 2012.
yea that's what I was referring to. this is the 2nd time he'll be called back to record new lines about buttons on new controllers.
>Damn it Snake, how are you this technologically illiterate?
I thought no new lines were recorded.
or was that changed.
They just confirmed they changed the ones about the controls but that's it. in the xbox preview video of today
Piss filter is back ?
The first camera was not strict third person, it was more in the sky, 'legacy' camera refers to that.
(i'm gonna play over the shoulder 3rd person, but also that way because it was the way first intended and it looks really good and the sets dont look as small and limited that way)
Yeah, but he directly said there will be a filter when using the legacy camera, to look closer to the original game.
oh that's a nice extra touch. These kinds of things are making me insanely positive about what first seemed like a money grubbing remake
Delta probably will have a few new areas since there's seemingly no loading. so I wonder how they will handle those legacy styled
Nah, that would be adding way too much and it'd break some basic intended gameplay. Though I would like for them to rethink the areas considering how easy the challenges would be with the new more agile controls
I hope you can switch between the two like in subsistence, but I somewhat doubt it. the animations and movement look different between the two. I imagine you have to quit out to the main menu to select it, or that game slots will be set permanently after you choose at the beginning or something.
I think you'll be able to, through the menu like in the later releases.
>piss filter
Thank god. Now turbo autists and morons can shut the frick up finally.
it's not the same piss filter though, they'll still complain. it's much less intense than the old one's filter.
Complain to Konami, then they actually listen to fan feedback.
Europe (and Japan?) seemingly are getting different collector edition
There's a pre-order bonus and a "sneaking DLC pack". No details on those.
I assumed those could be bonus costumes/camos, but maybe they are adding the old mission mode which got cut from MGS 3D back then.
Another possibility is that they are also remaking MGO1/doing a new MGO and it's related to this. MGO1 soundtrack was playing in the last trailer at one point.
>sneaking DLC pack
No way. If there's a DLC with new non-canon areas just to frick around with stealth sandbox in new jungle areas this is gonna be the game of the fricking decade
>sneaking DLC pack
you know, adding some "VR Missions" like with MGS1 or 2 to the game would be a fantastic idea to provide some new gameplay but that's really lame they are making it cost extra.
MGS 3DS was going to have this. With special challenges, some were a bit like the PW missions.
It got cut extremely late in dev, because some could still be played by cheating
>it's shit
oh, well
at least one can now pirate the original for PC
are shills also shitting on the original in this thread?
RIP Eva.
She's going to be a black woman with a buzz cut.
why are some kojimagays so bitter about this? it's literally a KOJIMA game. when a company rereleases an older movie, it's still by the original director. the non-superficial changes in this are going to be very minimal.
>David Hayter takes over as the face for Metal Gear
I'm ok with this.
Same he got fricked by kojima but he IS the face and voice for MGS so he deserves that spot
Lord knows he cares about more than kojima whose been trying to get away from the franchise since 3
Dare I assume that he is talking about the modernisation of the gameplay and not about the design or dialogue.
that's correct.
he is talking about the camera, controls, and movement, all of which have been overhauled to be more like MGSV. You can still play the game top-down with the old control scheme and a piss filter if you want though.
That's the way to go, trying your own thing but still giving the possibility to get the original ways.
Other homosexuals who are remaking games should take note.
ill be honest, I know free cam is objectively better for this game, but I do sort of want to play it in the legacy mode. most of the times I've beaten MGS3 were played like that.
NOOOO
i hate HATE this whole
>yeah so we remade the game for modern audiences haha
frick sake
They’re a company trying to make money, companies wouldn’t be doing this if it literally didn’t make them so much cash with very little risk
if they want money, cater to the fans of the originals
they have a job and money now
Original fanbase is infinitely smaller and whinier. Especially Kojima drones who will hate it based on principle alone. You’re not worth their time
You can get the original game's remaster right now, go and play it.
that's not the point here?
Remake of the original game doesn't mean that the original will somehow disappear. You lose nothing if they remake the game. You people cry about everything lol.
>You people cry about everything lol
t. UBisoft employee nr 3334
No, I'm just someone with a functioning brain.
Then you should know what "diverse" games mean for the industry
It does make you lose a decent community to discuss the game with. Remakes cause discourse around games to become infinitely more moronic without exception. Even good remakes like Zero Mission or REmake aren't immune from the occasional shitpost trying to claim the original was better somehow
Oh no my secret AAA game that nobody knows about. Get your head out of your ass.
Not what I said moron
this is not a gatekeeping thing (although it can be a few times), I'm just tired of endless comparison shitpost fuel
Now every time we talk about MGS3, discussion of it has to include this crap
. Chucklefricks trying to get (You)s will never stop posting it
Just ignore idiots. It's that easy.
i wonder if theyll remove kojimbos name from the credits
I doubt it
it's been like a decade now and that would be super disrespectful since most of the game's DNA is from him.
Credit at the start of the game? Unsure
Credit at the end of the game? More likely.
Worst case scenario : they will have a "thanks to the original development team and director"
they will
kojima gets his own mention too
theyll cut it out
they didn't removed any reference to Kojima in the MC. And they did in fact replaced a few of the ghost for unknown reasons, but Kojima wasn't part of them
Honestly Konami and Kojima have both moved on from this whole thing years ago and it’s only the fans trying to think this is some perpetual beef
I feels like there's still a weird contract where they can't directly says Kojima's name, and in return, Kojima doesn't comment on any current Konami project. Perhaps he was done after he trolled on Survive which I always felt was a bit hypocrite of him because he was the first to talk about a zombie focused spin off in 2013.
No idea if it will change later or not. But it's not a war like some people think it is either.
Okamura did in fact talk quickly about Kojima last december in an interview not made with Konami themselves directly and he seemed chill to talk about him. Which make sense considering the two used to be close + Okamura started his career on Snatcher and Policenauts. Okamura directed zone of the enders thanks to Kojima giving him the ressource as producer, because Okamura previous project got canceled and Kojima wanted to help him on his next project.
Pretty sure they kept it in the master collection in some form
Its literally just the original game files with new models and assets. The script, audio and animations are all being reused they're not adding anything
Animations are all different moron, the new gameplay seem closer to MGSV mixed with MGS3
audio is mostly the same because many key VA in the JP dub (aka the important one to the devs) are dead. they confirmed they will have a few new voicelines for the controls however
They also won't change the script considering it's done as a project to respect the original too, if they did, people would have cried like Resident Evil by x1000 due to Kojima's star status.
They probably will do more original project after Delta if it does well, based on what Okamura said
>Animations are all different moron, the new gameplay seem closer to MGSV mixed with MGS3
the most obvious difference are the CQC animations
they're completely different from the original, they have an entirely different flow and take a little longer.
man new paramedic is pretty cute. old one probably was cuter, but I'm content. I hope Ocelot and EVA are still as attractive as they were in the old one.
Ocelot can be seeing here. Though he's blurry, he's easy to recognize.
I wonder if they will make his face a little rounder to look closer to The Boss, though it would also depends on The Sorrow too, he took from both of his parents;
oh shit he is laying back there, how did I not notice
looks good at a glance
I still remember seeing that cutscene for the first time and how hyped I was seeing Ocelot as a young buck getting shown up hard by this Snake character who I somehow didn't yet realize was actually Big Boss.
I love MGS3 Ocelot as even if he's a trilple agent, he's still young and inexperienced and make a lot of mistake + his emotions clearly betrays him. It's really one of the rare time where he's not playing everyone else.
Or at least, not playing as much. When Volgin launch the nuke, he genuinely looks a little panicked.
After this, his sacrificed all his believes for the ones of Big Boss. Just like his mother with America in a way...
>Konami says sorry
>Kojima comes back
>he brings Kojipro and they make MGS6 with creation of Outer Heaven and ends as a remake of MG1
how would you react?
Most of the current Kojipro do not share the staff of the old one. In fact, there's more veterans at Konami right now than the current Kojipro.
Even a smaller spin off like MGsurvive had more veteran staff than Death Stranding. And i'm not saying that to shit on Kojima, it's just the truth.
Kojima is busy anyway with DS2, Od, and Physint. Which I hope for the later will be something original and not "remember I made metal Gear? the game"
I honestly don't want his autistic coomer and fart slop. Let's see how a metal gear game is without the weird incel sex shit and piss jokes.
Metal gear acid games are pretty horny on their design and they are not by Kojima.
Hell, even MGsurvive had this outfit (by one of the MGRR artist)
That's different than a dedicated piss and cum button and other 11 year old tier humor that kojima suggests like that minute and a half cassette you can broadcast to guards of a dude literally SHITTING IN PAIN in mgsv
which MGS had a dedicated piss and cum button?
While no piss and shit, MG always had goofy shit, MG without those is not MG
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You didnt rike it?
Metal Gear is in good hands. We could be getting another Survive you know.
Survive wasn't a bad game and I will die on this hill. Sure it was a weird spin off like the acid games but it was a pretty damn complete game from a gameplay pov and there was clearly some care put into it.
I've thought about trying to get my one buddy to get that so I can give it another whirl. I didn't really understand it when I played it the first time.
What many need to realize is that the story mode isn't the focus of the game, the salvage mission mode is from a gameplay POV. as Survive is first and foremost a tower defense shooter. However, you still need to play the story to unlock key gameplay elements, and many people didn't bothered playing more than the story.
Even the enemy AIs works much better in the salvage mission mode, because for most of them, they were not originally made for the open world, as the single player mode was developed later, it's already impressive they managed to make a pretty long one despite the low budget and short dev time.
RAIDEN
SQUEEZE MY HOG
>Say "I like MGSV" when starting the game
>Snake starts with an injury on the head
>Ismael mask face camo
>Skull face stalking you
I would completely forgive a lot of the game's theoretical flaws if it did that.
>wait long enough in the beginning area
>"WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?!"
To be honest Kojima had some really stupid ideas too and people at Konami were calling him out for some of that stuff.
bros I just want a version of MGSV that has full co-op campaign where other players appear as your DD soldiers like in PW.
I just don't get how people find the idea impossible to both support Kojima and support the new MG team for more project
isn't more good games good?
I don't get how people give a frick about Hayter or Kojima or any behind the scenes drama
Like holy frick are you bored housewife with nothing else to gossip about? I'm here to talk about video games
for me I'm a dev so I like to hear about behind the scene stuff, but everything is too "dramatized" these days
some people just like playing us vs them
it's sort of like how metallica and megadeth fans are, while others are just happy with both bands existing
I loved death stranding and I'm looking forward to more potential metal gear.
that's probably why the game has the over the shoulder aiming and crouch walk. I love the original to death but it clearly doesn't control like a modern game.
Snake Eater was made at a period in time where the series had one foot in the old and one foot in the modern. Every game before it had similar controls to that and they worked, but adding large open environments, more verticality, and a larger focus on gunplay, it wasn't quite there yet when Snake Eater released. Kojima learned his lesson as made clear in Subsistence and then especially in MGS4.
shame console manufacturers ditched pressure sensitive buttons. it worked so well in snake eater.
having the MGSV control scheme also fixes the problem of missing those pressure sensitive buttons, too, I forgot about that. I actually never liked the pressure sensitive inputs in MGS. I always felt like the guns discharged anyway half the time even if I was letting the button go as lightly as I could.
technically they already did a fix for that on 3DS, xbox and the current collection. though it's a little clunky on the collection. I actually really liked the 3DS controls (photocamo was fricking busted though).
It's been a while but I seem to recall savagely slitting guards throat because you needed to LIGHTLY press the button to interrogate and full press to cold blood murder
that happened to me so many times on my first playthrough of the game.
it was L3 to interrogate, holding circle was just to keep them in your grip. if you mashed you'd break their neck, hold it hard and you'd slit their throats. and I dunno I thought it was implemented very well, I almost never had any issues with it once I understood how it worked. I've only ever played with official dual shock 2s though.
it did work fine but i slit a bunch of throats by accident until I got the feel of it. MGS4 and especially V really improved on CQC a lot.
>that's probably why the game has the over the shoulder aiming and crouch walk
they took that from the 3ds version
ironically, the tentative title screen they have shown back in March was the same title screen as the 3DS version too. It really takes from every version of MGS3
Damn, he looks old now.
they have a legitimate opportunity to further solidify The End as the greatest boss fight in the entire series with this game.
The End is stupid. Too many ways to cheese it, all of which were thankfully removed for 5's sniper bosses
>Too many ways to cheese it
I didn't know about any of them the first time I played it, it was fun as shit.
Yeah, and 5's sniper bosses still are fun, especially the Skulls one in the Code Talker mission
Like you can still kinda cheese it with the Rocket Punch but even that takes some work to get into position to use it effectively at the right range, you have four b***hes trying to kill you instead of one and they will always jump away after getting hit in a way that you can't track them. Even the bigger arena make things more interesting since they're much harder to track and you could be getting shot from anywhere but conversely it might also be easier to hide. And you still got a mission after you face them, and how you deal with them has consequences for the rest of the mission
It's just a flat out improvement over The End
Imagine getting a CS or an art degree to become a game developer and then your sole purpose is to dress a another man's superior game for a ADAH zoomer audience. Remake devs are cucks by definition
People have been asking for a remake for years now. And now when we get it you're crying about it.
why not remake 1 then 2 then 3. Why snaked eater of all games, atleast if they make 1 people who didn't play the original games will have a sequel to looks forward to. MGS3 has no sequel that needs remaking unless they do peace walker which i doubt they'll do
Because it's the first one, chronologically speaking. You fricking dumbass. It's fricking obvious 'why'.
touchéd
It was either being a cuck for a triple gAAAy company or an indie dev and troon out.
it's literally confirmed that many key dev of the remake are veterans, and even though there's new team members too, the project is also made as a test ground for the new team.
How many is plenty?
>it's literally confirmed that many key dev of the remake are veterans
which is sad because that means the people that were there for the facescan of quiet have devolved in skill so much they turned Boss into marcus fenix
>devolved
Quiet looked ugly as frick.
Name one good video game that was made specifically for "modern audiences."
Protip; you can't.
I'm going go with
"Metal Gear Solid Delta"
/thread.
And no I won't be replying again.
I think Hideo Kojima gets way too much credit for Metal Gear.
If Hideo was on the project there would be no chance Boss looks this ugly.
no shit
he had wranglers shutting down most of his moronic shit every step of the way
I think they just wanted to age her a bit, but who knows, maybe it's just bad camera or they will change things a bit, even if the game seems pretty late in dev, they can still do a few changes
>I think they just wanted to age her a bit
she looks younger than the original Boss though. younger but more masculine. I really don't care about it because I'm more worried about whether the game will still be fun or not, but if they intended to make her look more aged than in the old one then they failed.
This part is interesting, Snake isn't supposed yet to have the Nagant. I wonder if they will have a bonus mode where you keep all your gear in a NG+
I hope they will release interviews about the CG stuff, or a new artbook in the japanese collector.
We don't know the team yet
But If based on the staff of Survive alone + the others found in other project, around 200? Maybe a bit more or a bit less.
Did you notice the other guy jumping off the plane with snake? (Skullface?)
Isn't that area from after you escape from Groznyj Grad? You'd have the Nagant by then
Frick i'm tired, it could be that.
This guy isn't SF though it's a fun theory, I always liked his design.
Yes it is (in my fan theory)
2black2strong
>random 3 paragraph reply to a 9 hour post to pants shit about trump
Pachislot Snake looks cursed now
Pachislot often "beautify" characters, but now, it really looks weird.
Delta is the opposite and made everything a bit more dirty.
that looks weird as frick, Delta Snake looks infinitely better
Pachislot Snake looked like a cosplayer
It's really funny how for years people were like "I WANT TO PLAY A REMAKE THAT LOOK LIKE THIS"
Snake really showing off his American side with this one
Modern Audiences simply means people who play games today. But it has become a new right wing grifter boogeyman to discredit what developers make and pretend they all should cater to them only and no other audience besides them exist.
Baldurs Gate 3, Spiderman 2, God of war , was for modern audiences too. Hell even Stellar slopa was for modern audiences too.
"Modern Audience" = "homosexuals"
Go gaslight somewhere else, c**t.
go ask grummz for a more interesting argument, get new material.
"Modern audience" is such an amorphous term that it pretty much means nothing. Could mean tightening up the gameplay, could mean sanding down all the edges so easily offended tards won't throw a shit-fit over black facepaint or Eva's TNA.
If any anon are interested, this dude recorded in high quality most of the cutscenes of the slot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JPnnWYTCQc
I'm not interested.
I'm just glad Hayter is getting work again. Good for him.
>The games you used to love
>Now featuring the shit you hate!
the original is still available on all platform...
It was inevitable, Mr. Anderson.
>Modern game is made for a modern audience
Woah....
>not making a time traveling game for a medieval audience
>manboobs
>Won't have a medical record of EVA getting fisted by an electrical fist which burned her insides
It's so over.
in her ass even
goddamn, Volgin was a freak
Listen, all that matters is if we can still see her breasts bounce and her nipples using X ray on her survival viewer.