>that Missile Launcher placement in HUD
I really hope that means weapons and tools are mapped to the D-pad. That makes room for so many more toys to play with.
Also
>inb4 "hurr hurr Prime 4 looks like a GameCube game!"
Good. That means it looks like a video game.
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>speculation that the plot has to do with black holes
If so, this is a glorious opportunity to give the Darkburst the respect it deserves.
While I adore the old heroic proportions, I love the new more anatomical look as well. My only thing is the helmet looks a little bit off. Not like a redesign, but an imperfect recreation you'd see in a fan game. Very excited Prime is back regardless, and I'll get used to the new look I'm sure.
It does look like they were trying to make Samus look like an actual person wearing a suit rather than whatever the frick was up with her proportions in the original Prime.
So I matched up the visors, and basically the new visor is smaller relative to the rest of the helmet. Which like you say, probably makes sense in practice.
Which, to be fair, looks a bit whack in hindsight. Like there's barely room for her chin, and barely any space for a neck.
I'm really digging that the suit is more form-fitting. It looks feminine, without being too overt about it. I feel like this might be a general design ethic going forward, because Dread also goes for a sleeker look with smaller shoulder pads.
I don't think the shoulder pads are much smaller than they were here in 3 either to be honest (Prime 1/Supers are huuuge). I think the main difference in this one is the chest/waist/hip proportions.
She's less "corset" bodied, and the general larger more realistic torso makes her legs/shoulders etc look smaller in comparison.
The PED Suit definitely had smaller pads. But yes, in Beyond, Samus' torso has a more reasonable shape and size. She's got a very noticeable waist line too.
PED suit looks the best out of Samus' suits. Fite me on this.
for me it's the Dark Suit, which felt appropriately like an aesthetic developed by a different culture than the Chozo. PED has some great color contrast that looks a lot more flattering ingame than
's render.
the red upper 'glacis' of the armor being a lot shorter also changes how the helmet looks a lot. like, ignoring all the rest of the proportional differences, you can see how the framing draws attention to the neck, the shape of the helmet is made to sit in that space formed and not stick out on its own.
it's the lighting
wtf is this frankenimage supposed to be?
you just stuck mp3's helmet on in right side?
do it properly
download this
https://www.models-resource.com/wii/metroidprime3corruption/model/61874/
open blender
match the pose, camera angle of the left and then you'll see differences in proportions/detail
This makes no sense. Her suit should still be the white and blue suit because it was surgically attached to her
Prime 1-3 are before M2
Prime 4 is after SM but before Fusion
>Prime 4 is after SM but before Fusion
how is there more metroid? i thought samus killed them all in metroid 2 except for the baby, and baby died in Super
The Feds are cloning them
Also the ones we saw in the trailer are Mocktroids but the Space Pirates have also been cloning them
so Fusion would be the official end of all Metroid
Yeah, they're gone for good now. Dread didn't have any, for example
What are you talking about?
Dread had the ultimate Metroid: Samus Aran
>Dread didn't have any, for example
Lol. Lmao, even.
>w-why does ganon come back?
its a videogame, not reality
I know it's a retcon that takes a big shit on Super (But so did Other M so eh) but basically in Federation Force (Set before Super) Shitlux steals some Metroids eggs the Federation had picked up on a mission before they decided the metroid species was too dangerous to exist. So there's the possibility that Sylux simply led the federation/chozo to believe the baby was the real last Metroid so they could sell his/hers to the now desperate Pirate remnants to clone for an insanely high price. Like artificial scarcity or something.
Just a theory though
Only all the wild ones died. The space pirates had a bunch when they crashed on Zebes in Prime 1, they also brought a bunch to Aether in Prime 2, and the original ones are cloned by federation from TEH BABEH'S dna afterwards.
There's only clones and evolved variants now.
probably a personal request from sakamoto after the dread suits
giving her a neck makes her look less chunky and more feminine, but also makes her look more ant like
its not hard to make music that sounds like it when you have the same samples
he has not worked on the last 2 metroid games though
>I really hope that means weapons and tools are mapped to the D-pad. That makes room for so many more toys to play with.
God I hope they don't do beam stacking in this game.
Seriously, this is exactly what I've always wanted. Hell, I wish they went a little further with the shoulders.
I'm digging the new look for the gun. Looks like a mix of Prime, Other M, and Dread, but still primarily the Prime design.
I think I preferred the big tank look that Samus had in the other prime games. Really felt like she was in a chozo power suit made for war. I get they had to tone down the proportions to make them realistic but it just looks really off. Prime 2's varia suit was the best suit in the entire series and this is blatantly a downgrade from it but I can't really complain too much. Hard to improve on perfection. I just wish her shoulders were bigger, they seem a bit too small. My least favorite part of it is definitely the helmet though.
>helmet looks a little bit off
It's a Prime game.
I can't be the only oldgay here....
We are going to go through a half-dozen suits before the game is over and will be ditching this suit entirely within a couple hours of play.
Supposedly the original gimmick was meant to be Time. Whether or not that's still in the game or how that looks, we'll just have to see Samusbros.
>time
Just give Samus the time glove from Titanfall 2. I NEED it.
I need to replay titanfall 2.
>It's Effect and Cause mission but entire game
Sure why not
The Metroid series really does like to use those unused concepts from 9+ years ago, doesn't it? First Dread with Samus' connection to the Chozo and the Metroid, and now Prime 4 with Samus and Sylux being centered stage and probably having a time shifting planet like Tanabe said almost nine years ago.
https://www.eurogamer.net/next-proper-metroid-prime-would-likely-now-be-on-nx
It's almost like after 2009 a certain shitty ass game halted all progress for the series and they had to walk on eggshells and refigure out what they actually had in the series. And what fans liked.
Personally, I think it was to great success. Metroid as a series is faring arguably better than mostly all game series as old as it.
It also doesn't swoop down at the back anymore, lending to its wider/fatter/rounder feel. Just trying to work out why the helmet just don't quite hit me right.
Thank you for listening to my autistic helmet deep dive.
It's probably just because you aren't used to it yet. One playthrough will probably make you forget you even had these issues to begin with.
left side is prime 1, they have changed the design considerably since then
the prime 1 suit is very different from prime 2/3
did you perchance play 2 and/or 3? Because her Varia design is different compared to 1 in those too.
>a compass under the mini map
hmmmmmmmm
SR and Dread had placeable markers, so it's safe to assume Beyond will too.
>Two bad games made by hack Spaniards that also butchered Castlevania had a feature in their 2D games. Therefore it's safe to assume the 4th Prime game by Retro Studios will as well.
I don't follow the logic, but here's hoping! It's a pretty common feature in most games with a map system these days anyway.
>>Two bad games
You can go back to your console war threads now.
I was just adding to the open world speculation with the compass nooticing, though it may just be an accessibility thing. Prime always managed fine without one.
Eh, I don't think they'd risk doing an open world title yet. Best to play it safe. Prime 5, on the other hand...
Why would I fight you over a respectable opinion. It's welded on lower tech, enhancing the motif of vulnerability and internal danger. Trust me, I get it.
My guess is each zone/planet will have some pretty large areas to explore rather than a full on open world. A good balance.
Yamamoto moved up in the world, he's usually in supervisor or director roles now. He was "music director" for Dread and we all heard how that turned out, so I dunno what to expect.
>My guess is each zone/planet will have some pretty large areas to explore rather than a full on open world. A good balance.
I'm down with that. They'll probably combine this with the multiple planets format like in Hunters and Corruption.
Someone else pointed out that the opening area looks like it's properly explorable, and that we'll likely be coming back to it at some point. Hope so, cause it looks neat.
Can you people stop pretending the writing of the game is compromised because of that other creature?
so whats he got on his resume to show for it? genuinely curious cause it better be worth the wait
What he’s got is he’s a straight white male which is all I need in this day and age
true Id just like to know what he worked on cause we got alot of straight white males that change sides midway
>it's one of the very, very few games I've ever stopped playing outright and refused to finish
your opinion is invalid then cause you didnt even finish the game
>you didn't finish your plate of shit, how do you KNOW it's bad????
>I cant come up with a good counterargument
yeah thats what I expected from someone who doesnt finish a game
I honestly think this looks better than every other Switch game. Very nice use of color and lighting, everything looks clean but not too clean.
Still a Switch game but one that isn't painful to look at. Just compare it to something like Echoes of Wisdom which looks awful.
Art direction > graphics. Every time.
how does she see to the left or right of her without turning her entire body?
>I honestly think this looks better than every other Switch game.
It has the exact same graphics fidelity as prime remastered
Presumably Prime 4 will be more expansive than Prime, so the same fidelity at 60fps would be good.
Certainly helps that it's at 60fps still. Good to see Retro didn't lose that
I hope there's large boss fights
i need another Quadraxis
>Quadraxis
kino is back on the menu boys
this shit better have backtracking or I'm gonna scream
Not even dignifying that with a response.
do you guys think the phazon infection impacted her mental state?
like do you think it was like a drug, where she felt invincible when she got a hit of the blue stuff? did it make her psychotic when she was exposed to too much of it and riding the high?
Phazon doesn't work like that.
yeah but wouldn't it be cool if it did?
No, not really. It's also implied to be sentient, don't forget.
True, but it's also shown to drastically increase the power of whatever becomes corrupted by it, which could be addictive in a certain sense. Also, having this sentient blue goo in your system probably fricks with your brain function, making it hard to resist doing what the blue goo wants you to do.
Don't forget that Samus literally turns into Dark Samus if she dies by corruption, so there's definitely something to be said for Phazon corrupting the user's mind/
She doesn't die, she turns.
It animated some fricking rocks. It can do whatever it wants.
Which beams are you looking forward to? Any thoughts on potential new ones?
Impregnate Ice
>wave and annihilator beam are the best
>they also have the best hair
check outs
This is one of the most repulsive images I have ever seen
Wut, really?
I was just thinking how it was actually kind of nice for a western art style.
00's female protagonist flair
>00's female protagonist flair
But actually though
Are you fricking blind?
No.
would be neat to get a reworked gravitational dark beam
nice image btw, sauce?
LGBT fashion.
Do we know if the OG music guy from Prime 1 - 3 is working on this? The music at the end sounded like a combination of Prime 3 music and old music.
IT SOUNDS like the guy but I'm hesitant.
No word yet, but I also hope it's Yamamoto.
I want to say it is. The last scene music has the alien music tones he likes to use in all the Prime games. It fricking has to be. I want to believe!
>the music is already better than in Dread
Dread had like 1 really good track and it was the a remake of a track from an earlier game. I frickin love dread but the OST left so much to be desired.
>I frickin love dread but the OST left so much to be desired.
that's what we get when nintendo reuses the fricking BotW OST guys.
Completely agree. The game gets literally every single thing right but the OST, besides but not excluding entirely the Ravenbeak fight, the OST is entirely forgettable.
I think it just might be the best game with the worst soundtrack to exist.
>it was the a remake of a track from an earlier game
The worst part about this for me is that it was already one of the most remixed tracks in the series and it wasn't even appropriate for when it played in Dread. The fact that they didn't remix a single Fusion track for the game was baffling.
I thought there was a face in the thumbnail
Speaking of, I am curious if they'll recycle Samus' face model from Remastered. I'd be okay with that.
Oh I see! Samus found the Varia Suit makeup visor.
audio version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rzdn0b-N_Kw
thank you drawgay from last thread
Sylux is going to be a pathetic twat, and I am here for it.
>tubechat
heh
It's time for a speed booster mechanic in Prime already
Also crystal flash would be cool
it would be neat if it slow time down and you move the same but everyone is slower
>It's time for a speed booster mechanic in Prime already
Wouldn't even be that hard, especially if it's tied to a sprint button. Also, Shinespark already exists. Stop and turn. OH FRICK, any Spyro fans here? If Prime 4 has Speed Booster, it's absolutely going to have the equivalent of Tree Tops. You thought you saw some bullshit in Dread, get fricking ready.
>Also crystal flash would be cool
I honestly forget Crystal Flash is a thing because it never comes up. But hey, they brought back mochtroids, so why not.
REMEMBUH ME?
they better give this modern fps controls like the pc ports
Do people think it REALLY looks bad? I think it looks fine.
the usual shitposters will say it looks like shit like every other doomed game
but i have faith they got more to show and newer areas
Its looks like more of Metroid Prime, which is exactly what I want when I want more Metroid Prime. This is a positive anon. My worst fear is that they bank more on cutscenes like in Prime 3.
to me, it looks like they're following prime 2. and i fricking love it
Obviously expect a lot of elements from the previous Prime titles to be here. I will not be at all surprised if one or more of the other hunters show up.
Prime Hunters is 100% getting remastered lmao
Remade*
no physical copy no buy
>Its looks like more of Metroid Prime, which is exactly what I want when I want more Metroid Prime.
I genuinely don't understand what anyone was expecting if not another one. People need to stop pretending that "innovation" is automatically a good thing. Just look at Sonic, and how Sonic Team fricked itself by refusing to just iterate on a functional formula. Take hat works and refine it.
>This is a positive anon. My worst fear is that they bank more on cutscenes like in Prime 3.
Prime 3's cutscenes were short and to the point. I have no doubt Beyond will play it the same. Don't worry about it.
The worst version of metroid is back. Time to play Metroid-for-Plebs, Bootleg Metroid, some kind of Downgrade V2.Bad. Like those Gameboy versions of console games remember those? That type. It's really the level these Primes are operating on.
You already got Dread why are you complaining?
it's baiting like the loser it is, ignore it.
It's not a complaint it's a mockery.
Not a single 2D game after Super is better than any Prime installment. And I've played them all, including AM2R
I've done the same, extensively so, and all 3 Primes are indeed inferior to every single 2D installment including Fusion. What do you make of our situation?
That you just have dogshit taste
Incorrect answer, try again.
sounds like the correct assessment
A second discrepancy.
It appears that morons are pretending not the be moronic in this thread despite, in fact, being the moronic ones.
I can't imagine anything being better than Fusion. Fusion, Zero Mission and Other M are the exact same level of putrid garbage that's been ruining the series.
*worse than Fusion
I liked the extra segment at the end of zero mission the first time but on subsequent playthroughs i never end up wanting to replay that part when i come to it.
Then again, it gives up the gravity suit the best suit so.
This is ACgay. Thread over.
Tell me why Fusion and Zero Mission shouldn't be discarded as bad, right alongside Other M. The three are basically the same game.
Fusion and Zero Mission are fun, and Other M isn't.
>watching unskippable cutscenes is fun
??????
For someone who claims to love gameplay above all else, you sure do put more significance in the non-gameplay parts
To love gameplay, you should be willing to hate everything else. If you're watching a cutscene, then you're objectively not playing the game. Why wouldn't you hate that which is taking you away from the gameplay?
Same reason why I hate any bit of Zero Suit Samus.Whenever that dumb b***h is on screen, the game is being ruined. So what reason is there to tolerate such a cancer?
>if you don't hate you cannot love.
Fricking moronic. Why do people think this way? What happened to them?
If Samus loves peace and tranquility, then this requires her to hate the space pirates and phazon and x, which are all threats to galactic peace.
Pretty sure it's that insane guy that spams Metroid threads. Ignore them.
have a nice day redditspacing achomosexual
I'm just happy to be vindicated when I see you find a Metroid thread discussing gameplay and getting so asspained about it you decided derail it. What did anyone ever do to deserve the amount of hatred you spew everywhere? Just be Nice. It's not that hard.
When people talk about impregnating Samus, and then they pretend that this passes for gameplay discussion, I'm not sure how you feel vindicated.
You'll survive. I did.
GIVE HER A HOT STEAMY LOAD OF MY BALL JUICE.
There are a dozen good indie 2D Metroidvanias that are better than Super Metroid. A 3D Metroidvania has never surpassed Metroid Prime. The only good 3D Metroidvania that I've played besides Metroid Prime is Supraland and maybe Batman Arkham Asylum if you count that.
Try doom eternal. I'm serious. Heavy prime vibes, it plays like a 3d metroidvania
>zoom eternal
>even remotely similar to metroid
Are you fricking insane.
He is. However, Doom 2016 was very metroidesque in a flattering way.
homie what
Doom 2016, MAYBE. But absolutely not eternal you moron.
Did any of you actually play it? It has platforming, backtracking after upgrades, a double jump, and puzzles. Doom 2016 was much more linear
I did, and calling that garbage a metroidvania is an insult to the genre and video games in general. Zoom eternal is a weapon swapping cool down juggling simulator with the occasional shitty Mario platforming segment.
But don't you like the heckin epic cinematic takedown animations? You don't want to be like Acgay, do you?
You're playing a dangerous game, anonymous... are you sure you want to tread this darkest of paths?
Black person it even has a grappling hook and your own ship. You're full of shit.
A grappling hook that is only used to attack enemies and a ship that only serves as a shitty reference to modern comics.
There is no 2d vs 3D divide in Metroid
Both are good, you are a gay
The divide is Prime is crap and the rest is godly. You want gentle threads but i'm only trying to prevent any poor sod from playing these game, trying to reduce the amount sorrow in the world, my posts are noble and kind. I'm saving society.
The divide is that you're a tasteless homosexual and Metroidchads are eating good between Prime 4 and Dread
This. Frick tribalism, the only bad metroid games are fed force and other m. Its not about 2D vs 3D.
Fed Force isn't that bad
>requires friends to make it fun
What's bad about Federation Force is literally everything surrounding it and its graphics, it was the most tone deaf thing they could have done. The game itself is not bad
My brethren.
Fed Force, ironically, got fricked over by not being a typical grim and gritty shooter. Literally all it should've been was Call of Duty but Metroid. It was otherwise decent.
Shoot me irl homosexual, i'll give you 1 hour to take down my healthbar with P-samus' foam blaster if you can make it here before i die of old age. Shove your head up your ass you might unlock the morphball
You're trying way too hard.
I have to try.
not to be all ACgay but I really do resent how Nintendo put Samus in heels
i have a foot fetish and even i don't like heels
That's because Samus got birb feet.
Why does anyone care what happens in smash bros?
wasn't just smash bros.
If anything I have to give soccerguy credit for making the heels more of a tool in tr4sh
making them look like some kind of devices is the best way to incorporate those elements
mmm that is some delicious early 00's mental ray rendering
Im gonna be really mad if this isnt 1080p 60 fps on switch 2
It's running at 60FPS 900p on Switch 1 according to DF
It'll probably be 2k/4k@60FPS on Switch 2
Nice
Makes sense. It looks very similar to prime remastered and that was 900p60 too iirc
The Space Pirates are fricking delusional if they think she's not going to screw them over the instant it's convenient. Honestly not sure why they're even bothering with this "alliance".
Wait, Sylux is a she?
people are running with the "she's a clone of samus" theory
sylux being a clone or a girl is so predictable it would genuinely be more surprising if they keep him as a guy
Now thats some stupid shit. We already had dark samus and SA-X
Where are they even getting this crackpot theory from? Is it something from FF because I never played that
It's not based on anything. It's an assumption because they did it with Samus in the OG Metroid.
I assume she is, because this is Metroid.
I personally don't like the clone theory. I want her to be some literally who that's just really fricking mad at Samus for whatever reason.
No, anons are just being coomers. There's no reason to assume Sylux is a girl.
Sylux has a clear masculine profile. You can see it when he first enters the room and you get the full body shot.
I would be fine with Sylux being a samus clone, but id much rather prefer it being a dude that got royally screwed over by the federation.
But i 100% agree with this anon, his profile is of a man, the way he walks and everything.
100% gonna be a samus mirror in some way or another
those metroids look like ass
clone Metroids so i guess they want to show it's not the real thing
i doubt it
What's the QRD on this dude? I didn't play past prime 1
he's the Pyro of Metroid but instead of fire he's using electricity
He hates the federation to the point of stealing a prototype suit/weapon from them (hence his armor and lightning gun). She kicked his ass in Prime: hunters (the DS game) and was the only dude not to immediately run like a b***h when the big bad of Hunters fricked all the other bounty hunters over.
He was teased in federation force and Prime 3's endings.
This was the silliest moment of the trailer. No Metroid larvae would just casually stroll behind someone like that, especially test tube Metroids that didn't imprint from hatching. The fact that those Metroids aren't immediately trying to eat the Space Pirates right in front of it is just hilarious looking
those arent metroids.
theyre mochtroids.
Taking a closer look, huh, you may be right. That would actually explain their weird behavior since Mochtroids are far less aggressive and due to being failed clones can probably be trained easier.
I concede.
>No Metroid larvae would just casually stroll behind someone like that,
But that literally happened
>especially test tube Metroids that didn't imprint from hatching
And that also literally happened with sylux.
Mother Brain in Other M is able to control metroids somehow. Probably related to both being Chozo creations. So it could be something like that. Some Chozo tech or Mother Brain clone or whatever.
Well as the other anon pointed out they are likely Mochtroids so it makes the entire behavior make way more sense.
But if they are regular Metroids then the only explanation is some sort of them being controlled similar to Mother Brain.
Yes, I know Metroid plots, and I know that Metroids are a very aggressive species that attack anything that moves and have no real allegiances, hence why outbreaks of them are so disastrous and why Space Pirates say they aren't pets. There are very few moments where Metroid larvae are shown that chill, so of course I'm going to call it into question as just them wanting the shot to look cool.
>Yes, I know Metroid plots, and I know that Metroids are a very aggressive species that attack anything that moves and have no real allegiances, hence why outbreaks of them are so disastrous and why Space Pirates say they aren't pets. There are very few moments where Metroid larvae are shown that chill, so of course I'm going to call it into question as just them wanting the shot to look cool.
It's so easy to make up a new law to get around that. Just say that Sylux figured out a pheromone that makes a Metroid bond to him as if he were their mother. Boom. That easy.
You're so unimaginative. Anyone could have thought of that.
That's moronic anon, for this game is likely going to be the inciting event that calls for the Metroid Genocide in Metroid 2. If they could be pheromon'd, then Gfeds probably wouldn't call for such a brash action. They are more than likely Mochtroids and Sylux is working with pirates, cultivating his Metroid like Motherbrain/Ridley did with Samus' after 2.
>That's moronic anon, for this game is likely going to be the inciting event that calls for the Metroid Genocide in Metroid 2.
They're still doing that prequel shit? How stifling.
I think it's less of a choice, more so that after Super Metroid the story plummets towards the events of fusion to dread. Those are totally Samus changing events, so it only makes sense to make games and expand the lore of pirates and the universe before Metroid 2 and Super, before most pirates and all Metroid are eradicated.
Well whatever, they can still introduce a plot device, and then remove it later. If Sylux hates the Federation so much, they they can say he destroyed his research so as to avoid it falling into the hands of the federation.
Possible, but until a new story angle like that is confirmed and recontextualizes it, as things stands it looks kind of silly to see creatures you know jump at everything that moves just casually stroll behind Sylux because he's Cool™ and Badass™. Don't get me wrong, it makes for a cool visual, but it was just amusing to me especially when you've played the other games
I've already conceded that the anon pointing out they are Mochtroids is probably right and such my entire complaint was null. I hope it isn't just that they were trained well since the Pirates had a difficult time trying to train them during the whole Prime saga.
>Heh... guys, I know nothing about the new plot. But I'm going to tell you right now... That's impossible.
Shut up, c**t.
all i want are new sexy suits
please, at least two new suits
do they ever explain why she reverts back to varia almost all the time(with small modifications)? dont get me wrong I love varia but showing shes well equipped from the previous threat only to lose to something far more dangerous and alien makes more sense for her to lose her abilities too and get new ones
i can only assume she doesn't always bring the big guns for smaller missions. usually she gets surprised that the mission goes south and needs to get a better arsenal
that just makes her seem careless
she was in Prime 1 and 2, and fusion
i like to think Samus is kinda arrogant and thinks she doesn't need that much firepower until she gets proven wrong
She kind of is. If you read the walls of text fusion throws at you, Samus is overconfident and a little bit of a b***h to other people at first. Granted, she has skills to back up the overconfidence but you can't really outskill crazy shit like metroid prime or the x parasite
Not really. Echoes is the only that ever actually explains it. She just gives the luminoth their stuff back.
In Prime 1 the Metroid Prime steals the Phazon Suit at the end which is why it turns into Dark Samus.
She should still have the Gravity Suit though
yeah, that's true
For Prime 2 she thinks her mission is just checking up on some federation emergency beacon (something she probably encounters constantly during her work) so she didn't think it was needed until she get fricking shot down.
>Prime 1
Metroid Prime steals the suit+upgrades and turns into Dark Samus
>Prime 2
Job's done, gives it all back to the luminoth
>Prime 3
She gets cured from the phazon infection as the virus is no longer a thing
Samus still has the Gravity Suit in Prime 1.
Yeah idk I delayed playing dread for years and now I understand why. I haven't touched my controller in 15 minutes since I booted the game. Frick unskippable cutscenes, glad I pirated it. Hope there won't be more. Indie pixelshit games didn't waste my time
You guys are overthinking a gameplay contrivance and tendency to use an iconic appearance for the sake of consistency. Metroid would lose half of its identity if you started every single game with all of your upgrades, a full bank of missile tanks and energy tanks.
What went so right bros?
music, atmosphere, continuation of an already acclaimed series, good story, and released during a comfy winter. its not without its flaws though, but still the game is a solid 9/10
echoes is fricking shit and tedious, I am so sick of contraians claiming this dogshit is worth playing
It's a good game technically, but I can't forgive it for introducing the cancer of Zero Suit into the prime trilogy. Coomers were a mistake.
Cope about it loser.
>stop liking what i dont like
you sound mad
explain to me why you like constant dead ends on critical paths that force you to waste your fricking time backtracking to a portal to then slowly walk in bubbles in pallet swap world back to where you just fricking were in order to actually progress
echoes was so dogshittingly tedious it's one of the very, very few games I've ever stopped playing outright and refused to finish
>game has a flaw
>LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE GARBAGE THE ENTIRE DEV TEAM SHOULD BE KILLED
yes
killing bad people is the only thing that changes anything
everyone here has shit fricking taste, I don't give a frick what any of you Black folk think
you don't know how to play video games and don't know what's fun in video games
you just stroke your e dicks for credit because echoes is LE HARD and everyone is just LE FILTERED meanwhile any actual skill based multiplayer game that is actually difficult gets written off as LE troony AUTISM TRYHARD ETC
you are all fricking Black folk, if I could press a button and have you and your entire genetic lineage erased from existence forever I would press it so fast it would shatter
skill issue
>contraians
Not only did you spell it wrong but your also projecting. MP2 was beloved and talked about on Ganker just as much as Prime 1 and the only threads with disagreement was Super vs Prime.
t. been here too long
Only one complaint: adding ammo counts to beam weapons was moronic, and so was having to kill enemies of the opposite alignment to get ammo consistently
You got filtered. You don't need to farm ammo unless you're about to fight a boss. No normal enemy was so hard that you needed a ton of ammo to kill it (and by then, you have Power Bombs).
It was part of our local multiplayer rotation, that makes it great.
>tfw you realize Beyond will likely have Hunters style multiplayer
Prime 2 has the best characterization of Samus in the entire franchise.
>try out prime 1 remastered
>pretty fun
>oh dude you have to scan every little thing for 100% completion, and the first mission is not replayable so you have to start all over lol
>never touch it again
How do I curb the completiautism? Is 100% important? I assume not really but still...
>first mission
moron.
Thanks for the help anon
You don't need 100% completion. Go first scans if you're interested in learning shit.
moron.
Cool troony sorry you're not actually playing videogames
If there's one way to hate a metroid prime it's to go for full collection. Better to leisurely finish it, collect what's on the way, they are long and slow enough as is.
Appreciated, I'll go back to it and care less about scanning everything.
>How do I curb the completiautism?
Quit being a moron
>Is 100% important?
Not even in the slightest
I'm pretty sure you need multiple playthroughs anyway if you want true 100% (filling up the gallery/sound test), I got all scans and items on my first run but still didn't have everything unlocked.
Incorrect. Second playthrough is necessary only for Hard Mode (1.53x damage/health mod for enemies) and skipping unseen cutscenes on that memory card's save.
Is Samus a troon in Prime 4. She looks more masculine. Smh. Give me back my sexy Samus.
Reminder that ACgay is a mod who has a delusional grudge against the Metroid series for whatever reason. The other mods reuse to get rid of him, which is why he never gets banned for his 15 year shitposting campaign. Never forget that no matter what, he cannot force you to reply to his bullshit. You are choosing to let him ruin Metroid threads.
It's best to just point out when he's here and then ignore him. That way people don't try to have a discussion with him that ends up fruitless.
I love how coomers try to take a high ground, when they spammed porn for 14 years. Now suddenly you care about game discussion, and yet you'll shitpost against a guy making valid criticisms against Metroid, and offering suggestions for future games.
The fact that you can't take even a tiny bit of criticism proves my point, you don't even need to reply to me. I've already proven my point. You'll call a man a shitposter even if he just doesn't like the load screens in dread, or the unskippable cutscenes in Fusion and Zero Mission.
The dude said Zero Mission was as bad about cutscenes as an Uncharted game. He/you are completely delusional.
The fact that it added cutscenes at all, when the original NEStroid had almost none, does indeed make it as bad as Uncharted. You basically made the game worse to appeal to zoomers.
moron.
isn't the point of a remake to improve the base game? idk just seems backwards.
He's a mod? That explains some things
Metroid Dread sold 3 mil.
Why does the game that has half of one of the most popular genres named after it struggle so much? Do you guys think MP4 is gonna flop? Prime Remastered sold 1 mil in a month.
some games just lack mass appeal and I think metroid is one of them. It survives just based on the fact that the games are generally really good and it's early titles were so important for gaming as a whole. It's never gonna sell as well as something like mario
Dread had little content and cost about 3 times as much as indie metroidvanias usually cost
>Why does the game that has half of one of the most popular genres named after it struggle so much?
Metroidvanias are niche, and Metroid in particular is stuck on one platform
>one of the most popular genres
In what world, dumbass?
you don't wanna know how well the other half of Metroidvania is doing
>Metroid Dread sold 3 mil.
that's the highest selling in the whole series
Bros I've been put in the mood to replay the series.
Should I go chronological or release order?
>zero mission
>samus returns
>super metroid
>Prime 1 and 2
>fusion
>dread
>pinball
there you go
>No prime 3
Prime 3 gets alot of shit but it's still good in it's own right.
Incorrect.
I need Samus to show me her juicy thighs and this game is peak.
I swear I saw in a manual or a magazine or something the "Mochtroids/Mocktroids" being called "Minroids" and it haunts me
I unironically think beam swapping from MP1&2 should come back for MP4.
Just without color coded enemies. And with more puzzle use cases than color coded doors.
Again, take a look at the HUD. I am damn certain that not only is beam swapping back, but we're going full on modern inventory menus here. Weapon wheels means we could have so many more, on top of missile combos.
this. it's the main thing i was hoping for. i want to be able to switch between beams again. the stacking was so boring. i used to love walking around with just the ice beam or just the plasma beam. each one could really lean into itself more and make exploration and combat more involved
People don't want this to come back? It's one of the things the 3D games have over the 2D ones.
In my headcanon, the arm cannon can shift into a 'hand mode'. It's such an obvious and easy fix.
I'm simping for Samus over here. What I wouldn't do to get in those pants.
Anon have you seen how she fights? She could effortlessly crush your skull between her thighs
>That makes room for so many more toys to play with.
you are a fricking moron
>Sylux is a Samus clone!
I am sure Samus would have a lot to fricking say about having a clone made of her if she ever found out. I dont think she would let that shit slide.
>Sylux is Samus' long lost brother!
Samus never had any siblings.
Just accept the fact that Sylux is some rando who is mad at the feds and Samus for reasons we dont know yet. I bet it's something petty anyway.
>Samus never had any siblings.
Hence "long lost"
Did you not catch the fact that Samus is an only child? Aka, her parents only had ONE kid.
Hence, "long lost".
You don't seem to understand that the only people who would have known were her parents.
Who died.
>being this desperate to force your shitty headcanon
Except it isn't my headcanon I'm using your own logic against you.
NTA but there's literally nothing saying she couldn't have lost siblings or even a half sibling. It's not like we know anything about her parents to say it's impossible and we're talking about hyper advanced space fairing people.
>Oh shit! My long lost sister, Samus, is actually alive! A survivor of K2L!
>...
>I HATE THE FEDS AND MY SISTER, SAMUS! AAAAA
Do you realize how stupid your twist sounds now?
No, but I have realised how stupid you are for thinking those are contradictory given how many instances do just that.
>Just accept the fact that Sylux is some rando who is mad at the feds and Samus for reasons we dont know yet. I bet it's something petty anyway.
That is the ideal scenario.
Can I get a qrd on why people think Sylux is related to her? I don't remember them alluding to anything like that in hunters, he's just another dude who hates the federation like Weavel.
Its pure headcanon and people are trying to turn Metroid into some kind of drama. They always do this stupid shit and dont understand what Metroid is at the end of the day. It isnt a tragedy or drama, its a hopeful series where good always wins the day.
>where good always wins the day
Nah, that would be true if Samus turned around and killed the entire Galactic Federation for the hundreds of counts of illegal bioweapons experiments, like their work aboard the Bottle Ship or BSL. Yet they get away with it every time.
>Even Other M goes out of its way to show that OM was a bunch of rouge elements doing this shit
Listen, I hate OM as much as the next guy, but they dealt with the rouge feds before Dread started.
They didn't deal with them in Other M, because the exact same group comes back in Fusion and tries to breed bioweapons AGAIN, and incase you need a reminder, what do you think the EMMIs were for? They were designed to extract DNA, and they were sent to the planet in Dread, the moment they found possible evidence of X infestation. What a coincidence that they can also extract metroid DNA from Samus, and are conveniently immune to all of her weapons.
Sure is a coincidence how Exelion was able to make a weapon like this, that perfectly benefits the GF's desire to collect bioweapons to use.
>There is NO WAY a HUGE COMPANY could make stuff like the EMMI!
>Ignores how every weapon in most modern Militaries are made by civilian companies.
Yes, I have a hard time believing that anyone could create weapons stronger than a chozo battle suit at full power, especially when this same corporation would struggle with space pirates. Why do you think Samus is constantly called in to save the day? Nobody else can stop them.
The feds deal with the pirates just fine or else no one would trust them and the whole system would fall apart. Samus is their heavy hitter, the person they call when they need that extra oomph. Also, you ignore the fact that Raven Beak wiped the floor with an EMMI, and the fact that Samus is not even close to being at her best. AS STATED IN DREAD!
>The feds deal with the pirates just fine
they literally struggled to fight the pirates in Prime 3, and couldn't even begin to assault their homeworld. The games quite clearly show that Samus isn't just their heavy hitter, she's carrying the whole operation.
>Also, you ignore the fact that Raven Beak wiped the floor with an EMMI,
It's been 3 years, do we actually see him fight an Emmi? All I remember was him catching the Emmis offguard by hacking them, and I attributed that to Quiet Robe, since it's super easy for him to disable the Emmi that tried to attack Samus.
>It's been 3 years, do we actually see him fight an Emmi?
It's in an unlockable.
I forgot those unlockables. Okay, point taken.
Still I don't trust the feds because of the Emmis. I know for damn sure that they were the ones who commissioned Exelion to make those Emmis. They're just too much of a coincidence considering how much they want bioweapons to experiment on. And the supposed "good guys" in the federation turn a blind eye to it all.
You do know that the Federation is older than Samus by...a few hundred years, at least, right? And yes, we do see RB wreck an EMMI. See
you disingenuous homosexual. Now go be stupid somewhere else.
So basically you're autistic
It's just ideas people throw out but being related seems to set people off for some reason.
I can indeed explain this actually. So get this, there was an ancient roleplaying ARG published in Nintendo Power called Blood of the Chozo. Long story short, one of the many, many characters made up for it was Solomon Aran, Samus' long lost brother, who had also survived the K-2L massacre. Ever since, the idea of Samus having a secret sibling has been a semi-popular idea in the fan circles. And here we have this mysterious character who happens to have a grudge against Samus and the Federation... Well, you can connect the dots there.
I still think it's a dumb theory, but I see where it's coming from.
It sounds even more moronic having it explained to me. I appreciate the answer though, thanks anon
it's an old theory from macintyre productions
I don't get it either, it's like wanting Ridley to come back but even less understandable. We've had 2 major villains now that are just Samus clones, hell Sylux is already a Samus parallel, why the frick does he need to be a clone as well.
>Sylux is a Samus clone!
I really, really fricking want this. I always have. It's such a played out trope, but they could pull some DMC Vergil-type shit, what with him being your evil twin brother, and play it so well, that it swings back around to being really fricking cool.
Sylux is Samus’ brother created from Space Pirate cloning experiments.
Sylux being revealed to be a Samus copycat again would be very shit when we already have Dark Samus and SA-X
No more Ridley, Phantoon, Mother Brain and Kraid either
why is this game still called Metroid when all the metroids are gone?
Metroid is a title which means "Ultimate Warrior" in Chozo, also this game takes place before Dread,
Anon. There's two (2) Metroids in the Prime 4 cutscene.
They're Mochtroids
Because Metroid refers to the species and now Samus
She's the ultimate warrior and can use the powers of the extinct species
But they're not. The last metroid is flying around the galaxy.
Metroid means "Ultimate Warrior" in Chozo, Samus has always been Metroid in that sense
every single metroid game has had at least one metroid. symbolically or literally
It looks 1% better than the remaster. You vill shell out ze $70 PLUS tip.
the switch cant run this shit, MP4 is the BOTW of the switch and switch 2, as in BOTW was a Wii U and day 1 switch launch title the same will happen with MP4
best way to play prime games for a pc fren?
A fork of the dolphin emulator exists called Primehack. It's the ideal way to play the Prime Trilogy.
is it recommened to use the wii or gc isos?
You'll have an easier time using the Prime Trilogy Wii ISO, which has mods to restore the scans and lore to their originals, since people dislike the changes the Wii Trilogy did to the lore.
why doesnt samus just make a suit with two hands, and keep the canon mounted on the side of one arm
how's she supposed to shitpost on the galatic federation's internet from her spaceship?
The people who made Zebes Invasion Order had the same question, apparently.
There's gotta be some Chozo tech to shitpost with your mind. The space wizard birds were not typing their shitposts like plebs. Just gotta find the upgrade.
Ugh, can we just take a moment to say thank you to nintendo for dropping this trailer finally?? Too much negativity
Thank you for consuming.
*bows head to 60 degrees*
How feminine should the power suit look?
We are at the point where people are saying the Gamecube was a financial success and it had no fake fans.
youre moronic.
PLEASE no Hypermode that breaks the game and kills bosses in 15 seconds
How do we feel about elevators? Not in between sections in the same area to make some verticality, but between major areas of the map. Would you rather have every area be connected through rooms instead of elevators, or do you think it's a series tradition at this point?
Elevators being the primary connection point with secret non-elevator paths between them, at least for the 2D games. Don't think that works with Prime
They should honestly be skippable. Super Metroid didn't force you to take elevators every time you wanted to move to a different portion of the world. Like, for example, if you were skilled enough, you'd never even see the elevator from Crateria to Maridia. You could just go right to the glass tube in Brinstar and skip it.
It's a loading zone you dummy. And even in prime some doors would take longer to open because it's LOADING.
And that was a problem for games in 2001, but the switch should be stronger than a gamecube.
Elevators are absolutely a tradition that needs to stay. I know they're loading screens, but they convey forward momentum and add to the atmosphere. They are part of the fun as far as I'm concerned.
Elevators also give you a brief moment of respite to catch your breath, collect your thoughts, and formulate a plan for the next area.
People vastly underestimate those small moments of reprieve.
Exactly. A game where you go go go at every possible moment gets exhausting, and that's especially problematic in a metroidvania where you're always thinking about where to go next and what your next objective is. Giving your brain a break for a few seconds is vital.
Elevators didn't stick around merely for tradition. They stuck around because they disguise loading zones. Now, understandably, many other games have eliminated loading zones. Or so it may seem. They still devise clever choke points that the player has to traverse, in order to deload one zone and load another. That's why so many games have those lame segments where your character squeezes through a tight space. It's to disguise loading while you perform the inane action with limited visibility.
Elevators also help maintain the scale of the world. You want to feel like you're traveling far from one biome to another. It helps to create the sensation that you're actually moving in space while the game loads. And hell, if you're game world is constructed well enough, then you're not only getting the sensation of moving through space, you actually ARE moving through space. The world being entirely consistent.
So basically, Elevators should be used where it makes sense. They don't need to force it for sake of tradition. Just make an interesting world. And inevitably, you will need to create a vertical shaft to move the player up and down. It will come naturally.
Well said. And hell, as Fusion memorably showed, elevators can even be part of the plot.
>that's why so many games have those lame segments where your character squeezes through a tight space. It's to disguise loading while you perform the inane action with limited visibility.
I hate this shit too. I would rather have loading screens instead.
I liked elevators in the prime games, it was nice downtime kinda. Though I do feel like they should save them for areas where they would actually work instead of just being "omfg i have to go through 3 elevators to get to where I need to go."
Holy shit, Sylux's true identity just leaked!
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>inevitable scene where Samus learns Sylux's real identity is directly connected to her history
>yfw Sylux is some rando who lost his job because Samus blew some planet or space station and he seethes when she doesn't recognize him
Got my BBC out swinging for Samus rn.
>making the big bad some literal who throwaway character from a 22yr old multiplayer spinoff that barely anyone played
I mean, it's better than Ridley again I suppose
I don't think he's going to be the big bad
Sylux has been low-key hyped for those 22 years, time for him to finally put up or shut up
Who do you want to be the big bad, exactly? There is going to be literally zero issue with people possibly seeing Sylux for the first time.
>literal who throwaway character from a 22yr old multiplayer spinoff that barely anyone played
>he didn't 100% prime 3
and Federation Forces not that anyone played it
I'm worried about adding another "human" character to Metroid. Fusion worked because everyone was faceless corporate suits and mimic'd scientists, Other M was just a pathetic dramedy. Dane and Rhundas were alright I guess.
They literally made up a new villain for the previous game that they teased in Samus Returns and he's easily one of the best villains in any Nintendo game. I don't think Sylux is gonna be a flop
It's a shame the 2D games don't have scanning. Could you imagine Raven Beak's entry?
>Could you imagine Raven Beak's entry?
I don't really see the point, personally. We already know everything we need to know about him: He's big, he values strength above all else, he put his DNA in Samus, he genocided an entire tribe of his own people, and you'll never be able to defeat him. What else is there to know about him?
>and you'll never be able to defeat him.
Wait a minute...
>and you'll never be able to defeat him.
Raven Beak stop glazing yourself
>raven beak even hacked into samus' logbook
>you'll never be able to defeat him
Hey, wait a minute...
>he's easily one of the best villains in any Nintendo game.
Meds
Sylux is a great new villain. He's been teased in 2 spin offs and a main game. That's good enough for me. He's a nice callback to a lesser known game while not being kingdom hearts tier "you need to play 500 games to know what the frick his motivations are". Dark Samus wanted phazon, Ridley is a space pirate big bad who killed her parents, Sylux despises the federation.
>that inhuman roar when jumping the Feddie troopers
Why is she so fricking angry?
Is ACgay in this thread?
He was I think
Yes, sadly
We had a great thread earlier today that the resident homosexual forgot to shit up and it was comfy. It’s important to remind this schizo that it has absolutely nothing to offer Metroid threads.
I just don't know why you guys are so averse to discussion and criticism. All I do is make suggestions on how to improve the series.
Die.
You'll survive.
Is it wrong to offer constructive criticism? Yes or no?
have a nice day acgay
You will survive anon. Just hang in there.
Die.
Please answer the question.
Jump off a cliff.
have a nice day.
Hey can you take this to another thread? We're discussing the new metroid game. Please and thanks.
So am I. I'm simply discussing what pitfalls they should avoid falling into, like excess storytelling and cutscenes. Ideally they should also not have Samus talk or leave her suit. Prime should be about the gameplay, not softcore pornography.
Good luck!
Go away ACgay
Tell me what's wrong with those suggestions.
We're discussing what we know of the new metroid game. We're not interested in discussing game design theory and meta discussion about Ganker users. If you want that discussion you can start a new thread about it
Don't reply to him with a serious reply
As sure as shit that is my last reply to him, boss
Yes daddy.
Then we should be shunning anyone who says dumb crap like "I want to remodel her shithole". That's not indicative of Prime 4 discussion. That's all I'm saying.
Jump off a bridge ACgay
Stop getting angry over criticism.
Die.
Nobody is angry over criticism, they’re angry at you specifically for shitting up yet another thread with your autistic sealioning. That shit hasn’t worked for years you know.
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>want to discuss metroid without porn
>this is somehow a bad thing
have a nice day acgay
Everyone can see through your false-flags and immediately identify you as the unsavoury element that you are. Your every post is met with a torrent of derision because all you ever do is fight against boogiemen and strawmen in some bizarre crusade to fight against an enemy that exist solely in your head.
You are not welcome here. You were never welcome here. Discussion is better without you and your moral posturing.
>Discussion is better without you and your moral posturing.
No offense, but talking about remodeling Samus' shithole doesn't seem very indicative of discussion. Maybe I just don't understand the sophistry behind it.
have a nice day acgay.
have a nice day acgay
have a nice day ACgay.
have a nice day ACgay.
have a nice day ACgay.
You will never be a woman ACtroony
>not softcore pornography
It's an FPS so I don't think that would apply unless there was a part where you have to crawl through a tight space and since you can't morph ball you would just get on your hands and knees and the camera would shift into third person. But I really doubt that would happen. Zero Suit would be a set piece if anything and nothing else.
have a nice day acgay.
Die.
>Die.
Late.
have a nice day acgay.
I hope this one doesn't give me motion sickness
I really hope Beyond has a melee button.
>shadow pirates
>baby sheegoths
>fricking grenchlers
Some enemies really like to get up in your face where you can't do anything about it. Also, fricking Grapple Guardian. And if it does have a parry, so many shriekbats are getting their shit slapped.
Looks like a generic mid Xbox 360 game
You'll survive.
>Prime 4 looks like a GameCube game
More like it looks like a remake of a gamecube game. Which is good enough for me.
Anyone got a pic that has all of samus's suit designs for each game?
I got this one
Nice. Genuinely ever had a bad suit design. ... Well, except for Fusion Varia. That's the one.
>Metroid suit
>This lettuce looking shit is suppposed to be pinnacle of power Samus
The only ones I think I don't care for are fusion and dread's suits.
Feels way too sleek and smooth, which is kinda the point but it pales in comparison to super or prime suits.
I want tire shoulders in Beyond!
I like this new trend of telling AChomosexual to kill itself and I hope it continues forever. It’s a much more acceptable method of hitting bump limit than letting this freak samegay.
Frick giving that idiot attention. I want to know what kind of dirt he has on the mods. 15 years they've let him get away with this shit. I bet the blackmail material involves either animals, children, or both.
Please just stop replying to him. He only wants attention.
I can't stop thinking about the last 10 seconds of the trailer with the godlike music
It was only a small snippet, but you can still tell it's a banger. Cannot wait to climb that tree.
Look at that fricking bridge. The speed booster shenanigans. Imagine.
God I hope so. 3D Speed Booster would be glorious. The bullshit people will lab out on that. It'll put Dread's shenanigans to shame.
And I disagree with the general assertion that it couldn't work in third person. Super had a sprint button after all, so why not Prime.
Super was 2D.
I'd love first-person speed booster just to see how it would feel to go that fast. It would be extremely disorienting.
Yeah, me too anon.
I remember in the new years eve, i was feeling like absolute SHIT, but i at least knew i had prime 2 remastered and prime 4 to look for in 2024.
Then i finally get to see prime 4 and... 2025.
Nothing on the 2 remaster either.
Frick my life man.
I just want to hear the full version of that song
your fault for thinking a mere rumor was fact. nothing supported there being a prime 2 remaster
Alright I'm gone. It's his thread now. Frick this shitty site and frick these fricking mods.
just tell it to kill itself. it craves “discussion” so simply deprive it of what it wants. you morons can’t help but give it (you)‘s anyway so they may as well be constructive in wasting the schizo’s time
I just wanted to discuss video games. Geez.
have a nice day achomosexual. AC chads don’t claim you either, freak.
AC chads don't try to hide their games flaws under a veneer of waifu spam either. I won't get insulted and called a homosexual for criticizing, oh say, the stagger mechanic or weapon variety.
Meanwhile, it legitimately feels like you can't criticize anything about Metroid, or the new trailer, without people spamming porn to drown it out. If this isn't true, then please, tell me a list of criticisms that you would consider valid.
have a nice day.
I'll take that as a concession.
The new trailer was really boring. Making a trailer out of a tutorial section was a moronic move.
Agreed. I know they wanted to play it safe with the trailer, but they really needed to show more. We're almost going on a decade since the initial title reveal.
They were excited to show off their original xbox tier scripted sequence where a thing explodes in the skybox. I think this caused some fat black guy to faint at the new york nintendo store. The trailer was a poor showing and fans should want to see something new.
have a nice day ACgay.
have a nice day, preferably in a way that’s easy to botch and results in excruciating agony, like hanging or poison
>have a nice day, preferably in a way that’s easy to botch and results in excruciating agony,
So you want me to play Metroid Other M?
>this Black person doesn’t remember the constant ayre and allmind waifu spam
As expected, you don’t even play AC either. have a nice day.
I don't recall anyone ever using those characters to shield the game from criticism.
troony comment aside, the rest of your comments seem pretty valid. I don't mind the graphics personally, but since they're obviously not aiming for hyper realism, the game should have very little loading and should run at a crisp 60 FPS. I gladly sacrifice graphics for performance. Certainly metroid fans would agree with that?
kys acgay
>tell me a list of criticisms that you would consider valid.
troony devs
Looks like a generic 360 game
Reused assets from remake
Bad AI
Clunky combat
Fanfic-tier lore violations
Probably a multiplat with switch 2
Looks 7/10 to me bros
>discord shitpost content is considered valid
pretty weak ngl
both prime 4 and metroid 6 will be mogged by hollow knight silksong
You gettin sick of that clown makeup yet?
HK doesn't even mog Prime 3.
I just busted a fat load to Samus. Waiting to see Acgay seethe over this.
REEEEEEEE I KNOW ITS JUST ONE POST BUT NOW IM GONNA COMPLAIN THE WHOLE THREAD IS TALKING ABOUT BUSTING FAT LOADS TO SAMUS BEFORE KILLING MYSELF
What does this have to do with Metroid Prime 4?
it has everything to to do with killing yourself acgay
But that doesn't have anything to do with Prime 4. This is supposed to be a discussion thread for that very subject.
You're not even him and please don't off yourself you got so much to live for like prime 4.
I am definitely the one known as ACgay and I can’t stand how you’re all bullying me, I’m afraid of women and I wish more games let me live out my school shooter revenge porn fantasies. I’m actually going to kill myself if you keep bullying me. All I want to do is discuss Metroid, why can’t you handle criticism? I’m heckin valid!
If you really are them, then yes I agree people shouldn't be telling you to off yourself that's a bit too far. I wasn't one of those people telling you too fyi.
have a nice day
It’s too late anon, I think I’m going to do it. I’m going to kill myself. I’ve never amounted to anything in life. Ruining threads is my entire identity, if I can’t have this I have nothing. And it’s all your fault.
please don't. Call someone, get help please.
I’m going to kill myself and you’ll miss my stellar daily contributions to Metroid threads such as talking about indie metroidvanias no one gives a frick about, screaming about ZSS threads I secretly post in, comparing any form of cutscene to marvel movies, talking to myself, and being afraid of women and trannies to the point of never leaving my house. You’ll miss me, you’ll see. I’m going to fricking kill myself.
Dude please stop being irrational. Throwing your life like this isnt worth it. Please seek help. It's not worth it.
have a nice day acgay
Who's idea was it to make the greatest track in the franchise a main menu theme?
I still remember when i first booted up prime 2 after saving money for months and buying it.
That fricking song sent shivers down my spine, god damn.
>not using the Dread Fusion suit
What's the fricking point?
Prime games are set set before super.
Not this one apparently
>Cosmic Year 20X9
>Super takes place in 20X7
What does the X stand for?
To be fair, the source for Super’s year is a super old Japanese commercial so while official, it’s not very reliable. But I do like the lore implications of Beyond being after Super.
I was extremely hype for this game, until I saw the trailer, then I felt nothing. It just looked like another prime game.
And be honest with yourselves. Did you even like Prime 2/Prime 3 THAT much?
Yes, I liked them that much. I am getting the exact game I asked for. Sorry you aren’t I guess.
>Did you even like Prime 2/Prime 3 THAT much?
Abso-fricking-lutely yes. Prime 2 is my favourite game in the trilogy and prime 3 is a fantastic, albeit slightly flawed, game. I've been waiting for this game for I can't even remember how long.
>More prime
Yes
>wow I cant wait for another prime game
>UGH its just another prime game
YOU PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE VIDEO GAMES. NOTHING MAKES YOU HAPPY. find a new hobby immediately
>It just looked like another prime game.
...and?
YES. I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO SCRATCH THIS ITCH FOR FRICKING 17 YEARS.
GO FRICK YOURSELF Black person.
Did they really have to bring back the auto aim, seems kinda strange nowadays.
The prime remastered gave us modern controls and shooting enemies still felt weird without the lock on feature
Seeing as the remaster had several control schemes I’d be genuinely shocked if Beyond didn’t have dual analog options like it
You guys think we might see X Parasites in a Prime game ever? Would be pretty cool if they were done justice without the BS interconnected "story" that's currently being pushed in the 2D games from Fusion to Dread bc of Other M
Maybe we'll also see space combat? Its pretty popular now in No Man's Sky, Starfield, and that new star wars game
I doubt we will see x parasites again. Fusion was a contained story.
>space combat
Wouldn't surprise me if they do it but to be honest, I hope they don't. Not confident they can successfully mesh it in with the regular gameplay.
>I doubt we will see x parasites again. Fusion was a contained story.
*laughingchozo.jpg*
raindrops on the visor
Halo 3 odst
>D-right; missiles/secondary
>D-left; beams
>D-up; visors
>D-down; ???
What do we think, Aeon?
Trailer already shows the scanner
Probably no visors
Beam might be sequential upgrades instead of multiple beams
just gonna wait for the primehack port, thx for beta testing tendies
Are the Mario and Luigi fans having to put up with bad faith morons complaining that the new entry looks like a new entry?
>Are the Mario and Luigi fans having to put up with bad faith morons complaining that the new entry looks like a new entry?
No, because their shit looks less like a soulless remake
Depends, does it make me a snoy if I'm worried about the Bros attacks being too long and repetitious, instead of being quick and snappy like the first game? The latest M&L games really went too far with the bros attacks being giant minigames, instead of just being quick bursts of extra damage. Hurts even more when you need to do them multiple times in a battle to do any meaningful damage.
From another viewpoint say I'm worried that Prime 4 might be linear like Fusion and other M. And that upgrades will be tied to authorization like in other M. Prime 4 could be good but if it has all of that it could suck really bad. With the limited information it effectively doom-posting.
Here's hoping for comfy wienerpit action.
What I was hoping for: Outer Wilds with gunplay and destructible terrain.
What I'm going to get: Metroid Prime 1 rehash with OC blue man villain.
>Oh man... Blue 4 is coming out... I hope it's like Green with a bit of purple and red mixed in...
>I bet it's going to be Blue though... damn.
Sorry this game isn't for you.
Metroid originally had destructible terrain, and non-linear progression. You would know that if you weren't a gamecube zoomer.
>Things that never happened
i think that anon means the destructible blocks. There are blocks that die to bombs or missiles or super missiles. That kind of thing.
But that is all over the fricking place in Prime?
Yeah that's the confusing bit. But what else could that anon be on about ya know.
There are also standard dirt blocks that are destroyed by the standard power beam. They were in Metroid 1 as well. The very first installment of the game has destructible terrain.
You could just shoot the blocks normally, and they break away. No missiles. No bombs. In fact, it's one of the very first things they teach you in Super Metroid. You guys really are gamecube zoomers. I said that thinking I shouldn't make such assumptions. But wow, you really don't know how Metroid is supposed to be designed.
It's even more fun when you get the wave beam, because that allows you to break multiple blocks at the same time. It was cool to fire through a wall, and watch all the blocks break away in the path of your beam.
Those are just blocks dude. Cool your jets. Dread already does this way better by being actual environment.
No, Dread still relies on blocks. Except they don't have standard terrain blocks. Dread installs some object in the wall, where when you shoot them, they break a specific portion of terrain away. This object primarily functions as the "this door doesn't open from this side" mechanic. So it's not a real terrain breaking mechanic.
Metroid Zero Mission was even more non-linear than the previous games, and it too has standard terrain blocks. One of the first instances in Zero Mission, is a tunnel that you can't access, because you can't shoot far enough inside to clear it. So you need the long beam to get through.
Why the frick do you people want this game to be like *game that isn't Prime 1/2/3*.
It's a FRICKING METROID PRIME GAME.
IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE METROID PRIME.
Don't care. I don't want a 2D metroid game, go fricking play dread. I like the 2D games but I want a fricking PRIME game. You gays had your turn with Dread. It's been 17 years for us Black folk, frick off.
>go fricking play dread
Dread actually lacks everything I like about 2D Metroid.
In Dread there are no terrain breaking tiles. They only have item specific tiles.
In Dread there's little to no aerial movement, because the gravity is too heavy.
In Dread there's very little non-linear options.
In Dread there are fricking stealth segments(lol, seriously?)
In Dread the battles all have QTEs
What am I getting as a Metroid fan? The 2D games don't resemble Metroid. And the 3D games don't resemble Metroid.
Sounds like you only like 1 or 2 games. Not Metroid at all.
>In Dread there are no terrain breaking tiles. They only have item specific tiles.
Isn't this incorrect? Are you David Jaffe?
>David Jaffe?
That's the guy who couldn't find the titles to break right? I'm pretty sure those were missile tiles. I could be wrong. Because I only played the game about 1 and a half times, and I wasn't very impressed by anything.(It wasn't a bad game, just didn't hook me like it did others)
But I'm about 95% certain that the game doesn't have standard breakable tiles.
No, I'm pretty sure that shooting at everything in the room, REVEALS the nature of the tile. You shot to reveal whether it's a bomb tile or a missile tile. And then you use the required item to break them.
>And then when you get called a snoy or ACgay
You would just be wrong. It would be an empty adhominem. I'm not ACgay, and I don't even own a Sony console. I haven't owned a sony console since the PS3. Which was pretty much my Demon's Souls machine before the laser sensor died.
So yeah, if you begin throwing empty insults at me, then I'll accuse you of being a gigantic baby b***h boy. You're not a gigantic baby b***h boy, are you?
And how dare you think that you represent the Metroid fanbase. You don't represent me.
Whatever, go play Minecraft homosexual.
I don't even own Minecraft, gigantic baby b***h boy.
>There are blocks that die to beam in Dread. Just try. Just try. This isn't even trolling. Just put in a bit more effort.
Alright, alright! My bad. I didn't feel like booting the game up. But I looked at a video, and you're right. There are titles that break from a shot. I was wrong about that. But I still contend that they're used much less frequently than in previous Metroid games. In previous games, there would be whole hallways full up of breakable terrain. Do you remember that secret that's in the beginning of Super Metroid, where you have to run and powerboost into? The whole wall would give way.
Or that shortcut back to the first zone from the left side of the morph ball. That whole wall would break away. Or in the abandoned ship, nearly the whole floor and ceiling would break away when you shot into it. Or at the end of the game, when you're in the baby metroid's feeding ground. Everything is all barren and dusty. The dusty vines would all break away. Or that spot in the red area, you could just shoot the floor away. It was not bomb required.
Or that one bizarre room, where you have to wait for the machines to dig a tunnel through the dirt.
In previous games, those blocks could appear like cracky terrain to make them obvious, but then in other situations, they were disguised as normal terrain. So you didn't know they were breakable until you shot them. I'm looking at the Dread footage, and all of the breakable blocks are marked with large white lights in the center. They're not even trying to appear like terrain. Or blend in with the environment. And they're used sparingly.
Clearly, Metroid was designed with terrain destruction in mind. And as it exists today, it's a pale imitation of what it used to be. Metroid Design is going backwards, not forwards The series is regressing to a less dynamic, increasingly linear state.
Anon you never booted up the game even once. Don't lie. This is just embarrassing
>But I looked at a video
That's just pathetic, ACgay.
I'm not ACgay. I'm aware of his tactics. He doesn't play the games he criticizes. He just gets into arguments, and then adapts as he learns from the people he's arguing with. So I don't blame you for making that judgement against me. Just know that you're wrong.
Truth is, I emulated the game. But that was on an older machine. And I don't feel like booting up my old machine just to make a point. The thread is dying now, so I don't even have time if I wanted.
But you guys never proved you played the games either. So nyeh.
>That's the guy who couldn't find the titles to break right? I'm pretty sure those were missile tiles. I could be wrong. Because I only played the game about 1 and a half times, and I wasn't very impressed by anything.(It wasn't a bad game, just didn't hook me like it did others)
>But I'm about 95% certain that the game doesn't have standard breakable tiles.
Well you're entirely wrong, those were generic breakables, Dread had plenty even if it did use the "one-way" exploding blocks as well. Not to be all "um ackchually" because there are plenty of valid criticisms and complaints with Dread, but this is an obscure thing to be upset AND wrong about.
And then when you get called a snoy or ACgay you're going to complain that Metroid fans can't take criticism. Your first point is false. Dread is filled with blocks that die to beam. It's even a hint they give you that if you're lost shoot everything in the room.
Ignore him, he doesn't even like Metroid, he just likes hitting blocks.
homies conflating Metroid with mother fricking Minecraft.
It's not even about whether he likes metroid or not. Guy hasn't even played a hour of Dread. The guy didn't even look up a playthrough. He actually went into a metroid thread to critique about a game he's never played.
And i'm pretty sure it's the same guy that shits up every thread. He's been doing this for how long. How many threads. And he can't even put in the effort to not just make shit up. He can't put in a little bit more effort. Trolling takes more effort than that.
There are blocks that die to beam in Dread. Just try. Just try. This isn't even trolling. Just put in a bit more effort.
>And the 3D games don't resemble Metroid.
Keep crying about it. I like Prime for what it is, not what some moronic boomer who was a virgin when he was playing the first metroid and is still a virgin now think it should be. The 3D games aren't the 2D games and the 2D games aren't the 3D games and that's okay.
>Have sex argument
Opinion discarded.
Anyone do a Zero Mission run after the direct to get back in the Metroid mood? What was your time?
>looks worse than Halo 3
yikes
ACgay tou can troll so much better than this. You had a good leg. The destructible terrain. Beam Blocks aren't really destructible terrain they regenerate. In other games destructible terrain is permanent or alteast doesn't respawn instantly. That should be the angle you troll with. Using the term incorrectly. Instead of just claiming a thing that is in the game isn't in the game.
Or this weird destroying a block with a beam and destroying a block with a missile or bomb are totally different direction. You could actually be funny. You don't have to go for awful reaches and be routinely wrong.
Everything in this as well as the remaster of Prime 1 looks more stylized than I expected (even with the Switch's power in mind)
Was the Prime series never meant to have as realistic as possible graphics?
I like how you're trying to judo the argument in your favor. When earlier, you guys didn't even know Metroid 1 and Super has destructable terrain until I told you.
>you guys didn't even know Metroid 1 and Super has destructable terrain until I told you.
Acgay you've said some dumb fricking shit but this ranks as some of the most moronic shit you've ever said ever.
You guys quite literally said you didn't know what I was talking about.
In other words you didn't know what you were talking about and used 2d Metroid to argue 3d Metroid game design.
>Metroid Prime 4 finally revealed
>threads are mote "on topic" and "gameplay" focused
>ACgay still finds a way to derail whole threads to b***h about metahomosexualry
It's all so tiresome. He seriously should have been banned a long time ago.
Mods will never ban ACgay I'm convicned he's related to someone personally
No, it's that he just evades so it's pointless to do so.
Plenty of people evade bans true but extreme shitposters always eventually get the range and permabans thrown at them eventually. It's been over 10 fricking years and not a single mod finally said "enough" ? Yeah I think he knows someone
still finds a way to derail whole threads to b***h about metahomosexualry
Who? Where? You guys called me ACgay, when I'm not even him. Are you referring to me, and my terrain argument? If so, how is that "meta"? What's wrong with discussing where the series began and where the series should go? I think that's right and proper discussion for any video game thread. Why do you want mods to intervene? Just because you don't like my opinion on whether or not Metroid should have destructable terrain and non-linear progression?