Just finished this masterpiece. Mogs the shit out of hollow knight it's unreal.
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I guess the fact that HK has to be in the first post of every thread for this genre is the real accomplishment for Team Cherry. Bravo to them.
i simply don't get it. Even the game with the Spanish inquisition was better
Blasphemous is the one I'm confused about.
Really don't know why it's liked so much
The art is cool. Game is shit.
Metroid is cringe and garbage, too easy.
Hollow Knight is king.
I tried Ender Lillies a few days ago and quit a few hours in. I truly do not understand how it has overwhelmingly positive reviews on steam. The sound design is awful. Feels like half of the sound effects are missing. The rooms are all the same, the combat is slow, the map sucks. It's such a weird game only maybe carried by its artstyle and music
If I didn't know better I would've thought you just described Hollow Knight.
That would be an easy way to say you haven't played hk then. I have 40 hours in HK and it's literally a polar opposite to Ender Lillies and everything I said about it
I thought Ender Lillies would be something like Ori, but I guess not.
Yeah Ender Lilies is actually good, unlike Ori.
t. I have dementia
Pedobait like rabi ribi
filtered
You know damn well that‘s the only reason anyone cares about those games
That's exactly how i felt with hollow knight.
I feel like the industry and the playerbase are focusing on the wrong things. Both of those games should not be anything above a 7. The music is horrible and i'm a milli fan, i found the key ingredients albums to be enjoyable, it's the same song with different tracks muted depending on the are you are in. Maybe one day the games will be about gameplay again, just like dread, man what a blunder.
>just like dread
Kek
That's one of the problems with dread, the game is designed around gameplay and not exploration this time, it's too linear even if you back track.
With hollow knight there's nothing, no gameplay, exploration is linear, no challenge.
>no challenge
show your pantheon achievement
I would settle for him just proving he beat NKG
Not him but Silksong when.
Hollow Knight rapes Shitroid Dread, keep seething nincel.
Yeah it's obvious that gaming no longer caters to me, $15 - $10 flash game with 40hours of garbage content is obviously better than an actual fun game.
The age of zoomies.
Shitroid Dread has garbage exploration and dogshit bosses. I am 31. Hollow Knight is vastly superior, it perfected Metroidvania.
dread is the quintessential zoomer game, railroaded as frick, style over substance, trash combat and bosses the movement is the only thing that is decent about it
>No challenge
>Exploration is linear
Man, if you are going to seethe full-time about Hollow Knight, at least put the effort to sound like you have played it more than 30 minutes.
Why do you stupid tendies just straight up lie about things. It's obvious you haven't played either games moron
Why is combat not allowed to be slow? That sounds awfully prescriptive, is there not scope of lots of approaches to combat design?
The ender lilies is just another flash game alongside hollow knight. It's no Dark souls.
The problem is that the combat is slow AND boring. Reminds me of the first Ori game, but combat in that game was not a main focus
I think it's a solid 7, nothing more, nothing less. It's too derivative of Hollow Knight in terms of story and a bit too easy, but it's fun all the same. I don't really get the hate for the combat, it's fine and clearly design to be "slow".
I wasn't really a fan of either of those games.
Then you don't like the genre
Dread is a solid 7/10.
Any recommendations for the Symphony/Bloodstained style games with heavy RPG elements and loads of gear?
How does dread run on yuzu?
Hollow Knight is still the king of Metroidvanias.
>With hollow knight there's nothing, no gameplay, exploration is linear, no challenge
You homosexuals just say anything at this point. Did we even play the same game? You are free to dislike a game, but it seems to me you are just making shit up
Of course you will tell me how you le epically beat NKG or absrad first try or something lol
i didn't beat the game, i got bored.
It saddens me to see that this site is now full of zoomer and reddit opinions.
>muh heckin unwholesome zoomer liking a game I do not
>didnt finish the game
Opinion discarded
How far into hk did you actually get? You found Greenpath, right?
Around 5 hours, the slow ass movement turned what could've easily been 30-1 hour of content into 5 hours. I'm not ok with that.
Metroid rhythm is completely based on your ability to control Metroid, that's why the time to beat is all over the place.
>30 hours into 5
Cool, but no
Do you know that there are movement upgrades, or are you moronic? The movement is perfectly fine.
He‘s right about movement being too slow. The sprint charm should be the default speed
Compare the amount of screens yo can go trough in 30 minutes on both games. You'd be surprised.
>Metroid rhythm is completely based on your ability to control Metroid
>control Metroid
Kek, shitposter confirmed.
You didn't even get more than an hour into the game if you think it's linear lmao
Had a friend quit because he got so lost. Played for 8 hours and somehow only managed to beat one boss.
you seriously couldn't beat it?
fricking zoomers
Ironic. Most zoomer are tendie homosexuals
Jesus Christ you miserable homosexuals, I don't give a frick about Hollow Knight. Talk about Metroidvanias you enjoyed instead of ranting about the shortcomings of ones you didn't like.
Why have they completely stopped making exploration-platformers that don’t rely on checking the map at every step ?
i want more 3d metroidvanias.
i just played through journey to the savage planet but i found it only average. entertaining for a playthrough but only average. luckily supraland 2 is happening so that is something to look forward too the genre is severely lacking in 3d games.
i'm playing Souldiers right now and i'm surprised i haven't seen a single thread about it. it's really pretty. even managed to die a couple times, which is surprising for these kinds of games
first dungeon is obscenely long though
>it's really pretty
It's all it really has going for it
they put so many little nice things in the background that you only see once, like these little ants.
so even if an area is big, it still feels different as you keep progressing
dread is solely based on combat yet the combat sucks, mercury steam has all the right ideas to make good action games but just can't execute them properly
I dropped Dread after I was locked out of the previous area yet another time. Ender Lilies has a route split pretty early on, and there were points in time when I had 3 different new areas to explore at my leisure, while Dread wants me to follow the developers' route at all times. What the hell is the point of a metroidvania when you aren't allowed to explore? The combat isn't good enough to justify complete linearity
Too bad Lillies is a boring game
one thing I don't like about Hollow Knight is the effects are way too flashy- can barely see what I'm hitting most of the time.
Drink more carrot and vegetable juice. Not like it matters when the enemies are just decorations.
are these supposed to prove some point?
Only if you want to. Otherwise please continue sucking the flash game.
Excellent taste.
i like dread and hollow knight basically equally. i just dont get what comparing the tutorials is gonna achieve. in the end game, the movement required for absolute radiance far surpasses that of raven beak, if thats all you want to boil the games down to.
>i just dont get what comparing the tutorials is gonna achieve
If you don't get it at a glance, you never will, and there's not much point in trying to explain it
I also like both games.
You're really not saying as much as you think you are by taking 15 seconds from the start of each game.
It's the best Metroidvania in your path
I liked both Dread and HK, I just usuaully pretend one of them is pure garbage, because liking both things in an argument instead of taking a hardline stance is reddit behavior.
How is Grime? I thought the setting is intersting enough.
A weird surrealist world that strives towards geometric perfection.
Combat looks fun, everything slow but hits heavy.
But the platforming looks janky and weird. (My biggest problem with most metroidvanias, they're 2d games with garbage platforming Blasphemous / ok platforming Hollow Knight)
Anyone play it?
I was a few hours into it, but stalled a few months ago to wait for Steam Deck. I like it, a fun metroidvania, but from what I remember the platforming wasn't particularly good. It didn't feel as floaty as Bloodstained, but it wasn't particularly good either
At least the combat and exploration is fun
Has anybody here tried the crowsworn demo?
Theres a demo?
For kickstarter backers yea. I really wonder how the game feels to play because it looks way too fast paced
It honestly looks pretty good judging from some footage. Doesn't look too fast paced
>Hollow Knight if he dash
ugh
>hollow knight is the greatest game ever and every other metroidvania is obsolete
>but also don‘t copy it
Make up your mind reddit
Waiting patiently for rabi-ribi 2
Vanias*
"Metriodvanias" is just a nintendo cope because castlevania was a multiplatform and came out before metriod.
castle (1)
vania (uno)
MetroidVANIA
But metroid is just a castlevania clone.
You don't just randomly add on every other game that came after the original.
Are you moronic? Metroid did the formula before Castlevania. The frick you mean Castlevania clone
Hollow Knight is an average game, any 2D metroid blows it’s ass out if the water
name one and explain why
All of them
Because old games are more soulful abd made by more competent developers than zoomertrannies
So no argument then. Could have said so in your first post
Tendies are zoomer that have no argument. They only care about consuming current Nintendo product.
Salt and Sanctuary has the deepest lore and is arguably the best 2D metroidvania for a variety of reasons.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_cJ_GxvoB1qVVBhUWM0bFFlcUE/view?resourcekey=0-u_AXl5Jo7bseIsvGz8t42Q
>mogs both games almost 30 years ago
if samus controlled like she did in zero mission, maybe
>Just finished this masterpiece.
Hollow Knight wasn't the masterpiece a lot of zoomers think it is, but Dread was very subpar.
Hollow Knight is definitely a masterpiece for me. It is everything I want in a video game. I am shocked it exists each time I fire it up.
WOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE look how fricking poggers this game is.
Look at the crisp movement, honestly weight, acceleration, momentum are all a thing of the past, i go right and hollow knight goes right like a flash game!!! WOWEEEEEEEEEE GOTY does it actually get's better? it's fricking garbage
Stop playing it. If you're not enthralled in the game's world by Dirtmouth then ott absolutely is not for you.
>It get's good after 30 hours bro
>you need to keep playing
Who the frick is this game even aimed at? Is this the last of us but for people that play indies?
I just killed hornet.
I literally just told you if you're not enthralled by Dirtmouth, the game's first town, then stop playing. I did not say keep playing. Just stop. The game isn't for you.
You don't get it do you? This is THE metroidvania, it put's others to shame with it's garbage movement and shitty enemies and combat.
If it's that amazing why am i not allowed to keep playing it? It's obviously going to turn into an amazing game if i give it another few hours, people wouldn't lie on the internet after all. this is THE GAME
Damn dude you are super uninteresting. Just don't play it. Smell ya never.
You should probably have a nice day
Dirtmouth is the opening town
And what are you mad that the controls are tight? You'd rather he handled like a GTA 4 car and just sloppily slide around every corner into the gutter?
Game's great, I mean you're one to shittalk it for being bad but you died before reaching Hornet
That looks so boring and uninspiring. Zoomers have a really low bar for masterpieces. I almost fell for all the shilling.
>hasn't upgraded health or mana yet
>complaining that he's bored
I didn't realize how bad this attention span thing was getting. Goddamn this is intimidating as someone trying to get into gamedev.
The webm is obviously pointing out the difference in movement between Dread and HK, and no amount of upgrades will make anon enjoy HK in that regard.
It's not the upgrades that will make the game better, it's the time spent before he decided he was bored.
No matter how you feel about Metroid Dread, remember to thank the series every time you play an awesome metroidvania, for none of these games would exist without it
Why would anyone get so butthurt over Hollow Knight?
Pretty sure it's just someone trying to be funny, why you can't appreciate multiple games I don't know why
Holy shit i can heal myself.
One post in, and the thread is already pure negativity, focusing on why other people's favorite games suck.
Personally, I value great movement and an interesting skill progression over battle mechanics in Metroidvanias, which is why I prefer the Ori games over HK, for example. That doesn't mean that HK is completely without its own merits though.
>t. professional shill
HK is free, children don’t pay for video games, ie fornite and cod br
Dread is $60. It’s the only reason why Metroid Dread is not considered a masterpiece despite being a superior game and a flagship of the genre
>HK is free
????
It’s on game pass.
That doesn't mean a game is free you moron.
Rude
Gamepass is free? I need to get an xbox.
Can't we all just enjoy the games instead of pointless shit flinging?
You can always go to reddit and have that uncritical shilling safespace you so desperately want
>uncritical shilling safespace
>implying this thread have any actual criticism
>implying that people here are not trying to shill their game of choice by purposely stirring up shit