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this game is an interactive movie
interactive KINO in other words
The 20 minute short film at the end of this chapter was so good
I've been watching all threads and literally not a single anon has actually posted anything to bring me to consider this a good game, let alone a kino game.
>considering games good based on what gets posted on Ganker
The absolute state of Ganker, can't even pirate a game to see for themselves.
That's because Ganker is nothing but third-worlders talking shit about games their potato pc can't run.
>Nooo you should waste your precious time trying to play this random game or else you're not entitled to speak about it
Why are you idiots this utterly disgusting freaks?
>or else you're not entitled to speak about it
Correct. Why are you talking about a game you haven't played? The quality of this board would increase tenfold if anonymous actually had a clue what they're talking about instead of repeating the same bullshit
Entirely correct. I don't think anybody in their right mind would honestly praise this game if they would have played it. I loved the first game, and actually waited for the second. I played it until the end of the morgue sequence, where I shut it down, uninstalled it, and I will never look at it again. Its not my jam at all, and i cant really see it being liked by anyone who loved the first game sadly :S
>I loved the first game
stopped reading, first game was garbage, i haven't played the second but you already outed yourself for having dogshit taste
For me to have interest in playing a game first the company has to sell it to me, if everything I see about it makes me hate it, I just won't ever have the will to play it.
>Lil bro is talking bout wasting time while posting in a thread he hasnt even played
Hold this L
Don't get surprised when people call you an idiot for trying to criticize a game you admitted to not playing.
literal actual ESL thirdie caught in 4k
maybe save part of that $15 a day you get paid and in 10 years you can participate in AW2 threads
I'm starting to think it's more this. Old Ganker would just pirate it and say it's shit, now it's complaining and recycling the same 6 webms for every game.
Wont play your pozzed game remedy shills
You will, goy.
stop posting pictures of me, homosexual
I just assumed it had DRM and never bothered looking, I'll probably give it a try soon.
>all anyone should be doing is catering to ME, and ONLY ME, and i should do absolutely nothing to entertain myself, only other people should entertain me
baby mind
>I keep shilling this game on this basket weaving forum but I'm utterly unable to even post a single bit of proof that this game isn't pretentious dogshit made by moronic woketards
This has to be a room temperature Black person or a bot.
Almost as bad as a "sweet baby" mind
Please explain who this game is supposed to cater to.
i think you'll be happier if i just post this
thanks for confirming you have absolutely no ground to stand on when it comes to defending this "game".
>gets intellectual now that his debate is over
lmao what ever you say smarty pants
nice dodge but it can not distract from the reality
you will never be a woman
and just SIX HOURS LATER
lmao those keys got you for that long huh
>assumes im the same guy
you need those keys.
otherwise you are never leaving the ward
>he doesn't know about the musical
Watching people play that music level is the most frustrating and disheartening experience this year. Literal neon arrows and 50 ft characters from the game pointing your way isn't enough for most it seems. They should have just put these morons in a mine cart and rolled them to the end.
>please shill the game to me
>wtf why are you shilling the game???
Screencapping this comment. It's the perfect description of why Ganker is so fricking shit without you even knowing it lol
It's a fricking woke moviegame. It has no gameplay so there is nothing to show.
>wah I need to be spoonfed
This dreck in literally every fricking game that gets popular for any reason on Ganker
Frick off and go play CoD again
>I HAVENT PLAYED THE GAME I ONLY GET MY OPINIONS FROM MY HECKIN FAVORITE STREAMER AND IF I CANT THEN SOMEONE ON Ganker HAS TO TELL ME HOW TO FEEL
die.
>b-but muh live action music video!!!
Literally the only thing AWtroons cling to.
>they hated him because he spoke the truth
his hair looks so good here goddamn
I know this is Ganker and not Ganker but you might find this interesting
https://www.remedygames.com/article/how-northlight-makes-alan-wake-2-shine
i'm so sick of pixelated hair. every single game just looks like everyone's hair is in 720p.
>filters morbidly obese, CHAV, gay, midwit britbongs like Mauler, warthabuy, FOOKEN PRONOUNS-man, and jim sterling
It's GOTY simply because of that. Simple as.
>It doesn't appeal to this random group of people I don't like, so it deserves to win all awards possible
The shills and trolls truly have been mindbroken.
>>It doesn't appeal to this random group of people I don't like, so it deserves to win all awards possible
that's basically what you morons did with hogwarts legacy, so don't even try this superficial "if I quote something in this generic sounding and contextless way! I can make myself sound smart for presenting it as ridiculous!"
what a worthless and shallow board.
Nothing random about wanting homosexuals dead. You next.
fitting for a worthless and shallow game.
based on what??? I have actual basis for calling this board shallow and worthless. Even if Alan Wake 2 wouldn't have substance in its gameplay (which I could argue against anyway) it would have substance in the multitude of unique ways it uses the videogame medium uniquely to underpin an experience and craft a story that envelopes you completely in everything the game is about.
And the reason Ganker is shallow and worthless is because this is a board filled with shitposters, falsflaggers, populist tier narratives, and circlejerks that all exists to strip any possibly substance that could be derived from discussion and conversation.
When you have flaseflaggers and shitposters lying to make a point, you are now forced to wad through a disinformation narrative that isn't even based in anything in the first place, but now you're forced to treat something fundamentally invalid ad valid because a large part of people believe it and are pushing that perception. That's how socialization works. Regardless of fact or truth, you can push a perception hard enough that it becomes so. This is how 90% of false rape accusations have any basis in the first place.
When you have circlejerks and echo chambers, it establishes that certain preconceptions need to be bought into first for any discussion to be treated as valid on here. Which is moronic because it's inherently narrow and restricting, it means somebody with a valid contending idea can never assert it due to it being shut down before even being engaged with. Ex: "moviegame", "wokeslop", "troonycore", "generic triple A"
The problem isn't these words inherently, they can apply at times. The problem is that they will be used in a blanket way to apply to ANY game that this place has collectively decided to dislike arbitrarily, and Ganker is never open enough that this could actually be reasonable argued against or debunked.
Example: picrel has more cutscenes than AW2, but Alan Wake is the moviegame? flawed definitions.
>Example: picrel has more cutscenes than AW2, but Alan Wake is the moviegame? flawed definitions.
BG3 has more moment to moment gameplay and depth across all facets of its story than AW2.
And don't even try to bring in something like Death Stranding. Because that's another game Sam Lake wishes he could make. La creatividad created the absolute eurotruck sim ludo instead of yet another barebones third person shooter slop like Remedy.
>bg3
>depth
Lmao I haven't played AW2 but this is rich. There's nothing deep about this game. and yes, I played it.
>BG3 has more moment to moment gameplay
I don't know if anybody has actually noticed this enough like I do on this board. I'm guessing only true discussion havers will, so I don't know if I can explain it well. Here it goes:
Something I've noticed is that Ganker will try to imply a game has more gameplay, or just more "depth" in general, for having "more" of something. I really can't show this. You sort of just have to understand games in a certain way to get what I mean.
But basically they never actually make any arguments suggest that that gameplay is actually "good" just because there more "moment to moment gameplay" nor do they ever make any arguments to suggest any actual "depth". Most of the time, they will simply suggest that because something HAS more of something, it's necessarily good. But if you're not stupid or narrow minded. You'd realize that...that sort of surface level no? What if I think a game is really interesting, despite not having more of a specific kind of thing? Or not doing a specific type of thing? What if I think the uniqueness of its gameplay lends to to not be as high octane, or constant stimulation "moment to moment gameplay" and that some forms of gameplay that are more reserved, and humble can also be good?
Hopefully, my points gets across. I'll actually make another reply to prove that Alan Wake 2 actually has depth, and to also highlight the actual problem with Alan Wake's combat, and how it's not as simple of a problem as "it's bad and generic."
Systemic integration of the design is more important than total, yes.
No the troony orc sex game with reddit writing does not have more gameplay just because it takes 45 minutes for a single uninteresting turn based fight
>BG3 has more moment to moment gameplay and depth
>depth
What I'm about to post is from another from another thread. And actually acts as a response to this:
guy aswell.
Its everything within the greentext:
>"I actually think Alan Wake's combat has a lot of depth with the amount of different resources you have to manage within a fight due to how movement and everything is designed. Healing takes a long time, Reload times take a long time, You move slower and dodge worse on low health, making healing more meaningful, you can semi stun enemies with your flashlight even when their darkness shield is off, you can stun with head shots, shoot their legs, you can even stun with melee attacks. The problem isn't the actual combat. Its that enemies rarely take advantage of all the subtle aspects of combat because enemies mostly fricking suck. IF THEY DID, people would realize that Alan Wake 2's combat actually has FAR MORE depth than even Resident Evil remakes. Except for MAYBE 4 (but even then I think it's close.)"
I just wonder if the person reading this wi be predictably stupid enough to not realize I'm actively criticizing the game within the mini essay because I highlight a less shallow view of the combat. We'll see.
>The problem isn't the actual combat. Its that enemies rarely take advantage of all the subtle aspects of combat because enemies mostly fricking suck.
So the combat sucks. Gratz. Lot of fricking words to just say it's mediocre.
>So the combat sucks. Gratz. Lot of fricking words to just say it's mediocre.
>No actual counter argument.
Understandable. Thinking can be hard for many. I think there's a correlation with being on Ganker and that phenomenon.
>its one thing to say that the combat in aw2 has a lot more depth than that in re2r
honestly. I sometimes can't tell what worse. the fact that somebody would so blatantly NOT make an argument but still give a shallow judgement as a response. or the fact that they would do this while being so stupid here:
>but i think its silly to suggest the two games share no similarities whatsoever
when I see stuff like this. I sometimes wonder if being void of logic is a genuine and default state of humanity, and that logic isn't something inherent, but something that has to be CONSTANTLY explained. I simply can't imagine it. Because while logic can be complicated, basic logic just requires one to think about anything genuinely for an amount of time.
Getting to the point. Nearly anything and everything can be equivocated or reduced. The things that make things things, are the differences, and the relevant substance of those differences or rather "value" of those differences. Essentially it's what effect those differences result in. For example. The difference between a Green Apple and Red Apple on the surface level looks insubstantial. Someone as unintelligent as this anon might suggest. It would be SILLY these two fruits have NO similarities at all, because they're a stupid person who views things very simply. But the taste of a Green and Red Apple can be so substantial so as to feel like the equivalent of two different fruits. Some people may not eat one fruit, because it tastes different from another fruit? That suggests being a different type of fruit matters...If a green Apple tastes so different from a red one that someone may not want to eat a green one...then it might aswell be a different a completely different fruit.
all i said felt an re2r vibe. they had a similar inventory system, both feature guys with flashlights going through dark creepy buildings, pulled in camera is more reminscent of an re game compared to the more pulled back camera in 1. the vibe is there
I hope one day you learn of the concept called "surface level". That is all. Anything can be equivocated or reduced. I don't understand how this is so hard to understand. It's first grader level to only focus on obvious similarities, because you lack perspective to see the world as anything but simple.
its just a vibe bro
>how this is so hard to understand. It's first grader level
Someone is trying to discuss the games inventory system and general feel, and you guys throwing a temper tantrum like that fat youtuber dude.. Sweetbabyface" or whatshisname... chill, its just a game.
>you guys
It's only one autist. He freaks out if you say you don't like something about the game, even if you say you liked it. Hell, this guy actually tried to tell people who liked the game to not talk about the game because they weren't talking about it the way he wanted them to.
>Hell, this guy actually tried to tell people who liked the game to not talk about the game because they weren't talking about it the way he wanted them to.
lmao I was one of those.
Said I liked the game but apparently I "interpreted" or "praised" it wrong and suddenly the autismo hit me with a wall of text of inane garbage. Much like he's doing in this thread right now. Started off as insufferable but now it's just funny seeing the resident autismo meltdown at anons.
its one thing to say that the combat in aw2 has a lot more depth than that in re2r but i think its silly to suggest the two games share no similarities whatsoever
the fact that you chug down the shittiest, corniest and most cynical writing tool in existence, meta narrative, like that tells me everything about your room temperature IQ
the only thing this work uses the video game medium for is to wish its ass with it
its a shitty arthouse movie with a shitty art house narrative wearing the skin of a video game bcs it has to
i spit on it
>the fact that you chug down the shittiest, corniest and most cynical writing tool in existence, meta narrative, like that tells me everything about your room temperature IQ
o...Kay? good for you that you feel this way. I think the game is more than meta narrative.
lol. not even trying to say anything of substance huh
>the only thing this work uses the video game medium for is to wish its ass with it
o...Kay? it's nice that you feel that way I guess? not sure what I'm supposed to do with this? I'm sorry Alan Wake 2 makes you mad? regardless your feelings have nothing to do with it being some of the best and creative use of the medium to date
>its a shitty arthouse movie with a shitty art house narrative wearing the skin of a video game bcs it has to
So it's a creative experience, wearing the skin of a videogame, because it's necessary to it's point of communication the type of story it wants to...hm sounds like it's using the medium pretty well.
>nogwartz still living rent free in this troony's head
lol
Please, clue us in. Who is the target audience of this game exactly?
people who... desperately want games to have their first musical while ignoring the one out?
did you have a stroke writing that?
It's fun and has great atmosphere. And Alan's parts especially are damn good. The Saga chapters vary in quality.
I think you linked the wrong post, because this is not even remotely answering the original question.
The question was:
Who's the games target audience?
>Who's the games target audience?
/tv/
but in a good way
>Ganker
>but in a good way
What does this even supposed to mean? is there a "bad way" too? Please elaborate.
Bad way would be if it would be trash like TLOU. But this actually gives off kino True Detective vibes.
Even tlou1 is better than alan woke 2
>alan’s parts
>saga’s chapters
Sounds like Halo 5 where you are forced to play as the diversity hire for 80% of the game.
Nah it's mostly even, it's just that Alan's segments are called Parts and Saga's are called Chapters to go with the whole writer motif.
>The Saga chapters vary in quality.
This is basically my conclusion too.
Everything before Nursing home is genuinely pretty piss poor imo. But everything during and after nursing home feels pretty good. No idea why.
The game is actually underrated imo in the gameplay department.
Here's basically how I see the game right now:
I rated Control, an 8.5 out of 10 the last time I played it.
The combat in Saga's section post Nursery Home are all SIGNIFICANTLY better than Control. Everything beforehand is pretty shit and mediocre tho.
So comparing Saga's chapters to Control...I think I'd rate it an 8.5 too.
So here's how things are for me:
Saga's Chapters: 8.5/10. If I were to try and be more specific, I'd give it an 8.3 or 8.4. But that complicates things, it's hard to measure this kind of stuff because her best parts are better than Control by a mile, but her worst are worse, by a couple meters.
Alan's Chapters: 9.5/10 Lots of creative stuff, lots if variance in environments. Creative environmental puzzles. Exploration that can feel like you're lost. The best enemy type in the entire game. The best weapons aswell, except he's missing the crossbow.
I did the calculations. And this results in a 9/10 once you combine the scores. And I think that's about right. I might personally push it to a 9.2 or 9.3 just because of how special some moments were
Not even ubisoft shills were this obvious
Me.
Okay, what are you like? Age / ethnicity / interests?
20 y/o white male who plays lots of games.
If guys like you are the actual target audience, why did they tell the story trough the eyes of a 40+ careerist mother? Why wouldn't they just make a young rookie dude or a sexy chick as the main character in that case? What did you find interesting about Saga exactly? What made you help to identify / sympathize with her?
She's a detective. I like detectives so I am a little bias. Her kindness and relationship with Casey were also really good. I like seeing Alan's writing from the other side. Seeing the perspective of someone who is being actively harmed by the story he is writing is interesting and adds to Alan's conflict. I definitely think Alan is the superior protagonist of the two though.
Alan is great and he kinda fits your profile too, but what about Saga, who got more screen time? The fact that she's a middle aged mother did add anything at all to the story? Why did she had to be the main character instead of Casey? Wouldnt it be more logical to make Casey the main character if the target audience are white gamer dudes in their 20s?
Saga's connection to the Andersons makes her better for a protag and Casey is too one-note to be a protag. His shtick would get boring after a while. Also having two angsty male protags would be a little lame.
Was it lame in the first season of True Detective, there were two angsty male protagonists, and Detective Rust Cohle was pretty one-note too? Why did it work there and why wouldn't it work with AWII? Couldn't be Casey connected to the Andersons?
Haven't seen True Detective. I don't think its impossible for Casey to work, I just think Saga works significantly better. The contrast between a husband trying to help his wife and a mother trying to help her daughter is rather poignant and makes her a good co-lead with Alan.
>why did they tell the story trough the eyes of a 40+ careerist mother? Why wouldn't they just make a young rookie dude or a sexy chick as the main character in that case?
Are you unironically a confused marketer?
Me, Sam Lake is the West's Kojima.
Redditors
white people with high IQs
No Norf FC stamp, no buy
First game was better at telling a story
It's a better survival horror game in terms of gameplay and story than re2r and re4r
In what way? Not only is it paced horribly but none of the encounter or enemy design besides the arena fight concert at the very fricking end are any good.
Yeah, in that it's a horror to play and it feels like you you're struggling to survive playing it LOL
wow. somebody who can actually see further than their nose.
btw, don't bother explaining to those replies why, almsot every reply in this thread is a disingenuous shitpost or a flasleflagger pretending they played the game, I've wrote dozens of lengthy effort posts going in depth regarding this game and have NEVER gotten a sufficient response, people will deflect, accuse "no u" you, label you, adhom you, or try to explain your own argument to you...completely void of any awareness of how that's a strawman...
because they don't care. Aslong as they can get someone to believe that this game has no legitimate basis by just lying or twisting the truth, then it will continue to happen. Because this board has zero standard of discussion. Any moron can just say whatever shit and get no pushback or challenge because the reality is that most people are morons morons don't even know why they like the shit they do. And what's that saying? "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting its shoes on".
It's harder to be correct, than to lie, or paint a picture. Infact, I actually have an EXACT indepth elaboration of why I think the combat is probably better than modern resident evil remakes in terms of survival horror gameplay, but the morons are still doing the disingenuous "no it's not, because [lists a number of things that just amount to subjective perceptions]
I'm guess that's why you didn't respond. I wish this board wasn't remotely shallow. Because there's interesting discussion that could be had surrounding this game's combat, good and/or bad, because looking at it as one way or the other, isn't nuance. But nuance is the last thing you'll ever find on this board.
nah man interactive movies go down better
this game has atrocious slog gameplay to pad out the narrative
it's getting close REAL CLOSE to not sucking pure ass
not quite there yet, but Kojima's PT, and Alan Wake 2 is pushing the limited narrative skill of game developers ALMOST there.
Maybe in another few years I hope.
>RE2make
🙁
>RE2make with nepotism
🙂
>AW2 GOTY
>MP Remakes GOTY (2027)
It's FINNISHED
You're smoking crack if you think it's any other game besides BG3.
Not a huge fan of the game myself, but it was so universally enjoyed there's no challenge.
I got hardlocked in this game, i hope they fix this shit.
How?
>Ganker cheering for movie game supremacy
>mfw viewing paid content
Honestly, I'm GENUINELY surprised almost everyone in the replies to this comment was actually able to understand why this comment was absolutely moronic. Typically Ganker doesn't have enough self awareness or critical thinking to call out shallow statements like these. Genuinely surprised, my whole perception of Ganker is kind of in disarray. Not sure what to think of this. But I have no doubt that Ganker will eventually do something collectively stupid for me to develop a coherent view that this place is moronic again. Whether that be in this thread or some later thread.
Sambros we finally won.
So sick of seeing this dude and his goofy Max Payne meme face.
david bowie?
SO YOU WERE DRAWN TO STORIES EARLY ONNNN
MY DREAMS
WOULD LIGHT UP MY IMAGINATION
AND YOU HAD NIGHTMARES
NIGHT AND DAY
>MFW when it starts
i'd love to see sam lake receiving a GOTY
SHOW ME THE CHAMPION OF LIGHT
I liked Alan Wake 2.
There, I said it.
I just wish Saga wasn't a part of it. I wanted Alan's schizophrenic journey through both reality and the Dark Place
No chance Alan Wake 2 wins. Journalists have 90% control over the vote and BG3 and Zelda have the highest scores.
>only the game with the highest review score wins
Stale meme. I don't even know why people think this is true.
what is the implication that it's NOT true? 90% of GOTY wins have been the highest or top 5 highest review score. Yes I think user score matters too, but will only matter when the review scores are tied imo
Go comb through all the nominees and winners and you'll see that most of the winners do not have the highest score. This shit is as stale as recency bias dictating winners. You people just make shit up then roll with it.
If only to make the BG3 people seethe i would enjoy that.
I will fricking laugh so god damn hard at everyone if it wins.
BG3troons get what they fricking deserve
>anal woke troonies hate bald gape 3 trannoids
Why are trannies so filled with hate?
>projection
Found the real troon.
I’m excited for this board to be unusable once Alan Wake 2 sweeps up GOTY and BG3troons an hero en masse
>aw2
>not troon
Both are troon games.
I just want to see Alan Wake 2 win so this board becomes unusable
Sure remedy shill
Frick Alan Wake 2 and frick Baldur’s Gate 3.
The Day Before is the better game and BG3trannies and Alan Waketroons kneel to this post.
>The Day Before offers players a uniquely reimagined journey into post-apocalyptic open-world MMO survival
yawn
Kneel peasant.
The Day Before is the superior game to both Baldur’s Slop 3 and Slop Woke
lol. thoughtless and ignorant morons. Ganker doesn't even try to be coherent or sane.
have a nice day Black person.
Slop Woke 2 flopped and bombed along with Slop Gate 3
brown
Kneel peasant.
The Day Before clears both Slop Gate 3 and Slop Woke 2
Self-loathing because they see their own kind and realize that's what they look like.
i don't play games with bl*ck characters
Get woke go broke.
Disney losing hundreds of millions now. You too, soon or later.
I hate Saga so FRICKING much
OH MY GOD HE DID THE FACE REDDIT
i would rather have alan wake 2 win than anything else on that list tbqh.
Y'know what? Sure. I wish these things had a way to deliver feedback to the devs
I want it to win too. I'm just happy a relatively niche horror game got nominated.
It's an outlier compared to the others.
unironically this, bg3 crossed the line, bg3 is the first game I've ever been bothered by crpg's political correctness
How was it politically correct? I'm always one of the first people to point out wokeness in games and I didn't find anything objectionable here other than the strange number of gay background NPCs in act 3, but that's a minor nitpick.
One of the hallmarks of woke/politically correct games is that they're extremely bland and devoid of any edge or personality. Starfield is actually a perfect example of this and probably the most politically correct game of the year, or maybe second behind Spider-man 2. BG3 has too much gore and edginess and hot naked chicks to be politically correct. The characters have too much personality and attitude and most of them are pricks, and you yourself can be a massive prick in virtually every dialogue scene. The game never moralizes at you or lectures you for being evil either, and it doesn't bar you from doing evil things that would be considered off-limits in most games, like murdering children.
It had a couple of gay gnomes and every character wasn't a trad white human male paladin
they literally squeezed out sourcing Chinese and Indians to make most soulless generic fantasy world, Gameplay is worse than DOS and NPCs are hideous af, It looks like designed by Rebecca Rea Sugar, It stinks, bg3 feels like exploring 40y/o tumblr troony fatso's brain, don't fall into the illusion of choice
Ed Greenwood is still alive so he'd fight you for that
It sold a lot so it is okay.
bg3 is going to win but I much rather have alan wake 2 win
Is this the True Detective of gaming?
>True Detective
No idea why people say that. It's more like X-Files.
Also I'd say that the investigation shit could have been good if they didn't rely on profiling so fricking hard, which is just a glorified cutscene.
Otherwise it's genuinely fun and chill to plot stuff on the plotboard and just see how everything connects. I just feel like it's missing something. Not sure what, because honesty, a case board is a mechanic that doesn't really work for traditional notions of gameplay if you understand how it's used in real life.
the jump scare screamers in this game are CHEAP and UNEARNED
The Ahti and Cynthia jump scares make up for it. You know which ones.
yea but they overdid it with cynthia
The first one by the window in the hallway was well done.
i agree but it became way overplayed by the time you got to her boss fight. remedy doesnt need to rely on that the game is so cool otherwise
oh also the wolf enemies sucked my wiener
they're not jumpscares. if you guys weren't moronic, you'd realize that by the fact that they can happen during cutscenes where you have absolutely zero control. there's a fundemental premise that if something can be interpreted as scary and unexpected, then it's a jumpscare. which makes the meaning of it too circular, but even ignoring that, it suggests something kind of ironic...that people had to get scared of these "cheap" jumpscares at first, a number of times to even consider it scary in the first place...which just suggests every moron that makes this argument is a pussy overcompensating.
nah they were cheap and you cant uhhhhh akshually me into some moronic lore bullshit
>you cant uhhhhh akshually me
I don't care what I cam "uh akshually" you into. nobody could have "uh akshually'd" Hitler into not being a delusional moron against israelites. That doesn't make his interpretation and perception any less wrong. I don't try to convince morons, because only morons would ever suggest in a logical argument that whether one is convinced based on their arbitrary standard or not has any relevance to being correct.
Don't respond to me again if you have nothing more to offer beyond wanting to obstinately affirm what you want to believe.
you sound obese
He's a 21 year old with self admitted ADHD
You know how it goes actual zoomzoom
yea i dont know why people get so sweaty about it, game is still really good otherwise
>THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT YOU DONT GET IT
Yawn.
They all happen during player control, what the frick are you talking about?
>They all happen during player control
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I knew I was right. I have too little faith in myself when I know that most people are genuine fricking morons with garbage critical thinking skills that never ever remotely try to think about or process information and knowledge beyond the surface level, or without a hint of bias. I shouldn't have even wasted my time getting the proof, but I knew I was right, and hate morons, so here I am.
>a sudden or unexpected event, typically involving or accompanied by a loud, jarring sound, intended to startle an audience
Sounds like a jumpscare to me. Why you think the player needs control makes no fricking sense. It doesn't matter if it's during gameplay or a cutscene. Also the grand majority of them happen during gameplay. The very first one happens when manually walking through Cauldron Lake.
>Why you think the player needs control makes no fricking sense. It doesn't matter if it's during gameplay or a cutscene. Also the grand majority of them happen during gameplay.
>shifts the goalposts
lmao, predictable. the expected response of every moron that can't make an argument.
>unexpected event
it's not an event.
>intended to startle an audience
established zero intention.
I could even go further and suggest it's not actually that unexpected once you realize what the point of the jumpscares is. But Ganker is shallow and simple minded and doesn't deserve anymore spoonfeeding.
>accompanied by a loud, jarring sound
sudden music, a sudden character's yell, a sudden flash of light, a sudden scene change, etc. all natural aspects of media, television, movies, and videogames, can arbitrarily be characterized as jumpscares. and hint: because I know you're a moron. yes, music can be characterized as jarring. and to go even further, yes calling music a jumpscare would be moronic. or anything else I mentioned, because if you noticed, all those things could server a purpose not necessarily related to scaring somebody, but can be interpreted as such. I can't believe I even have to explain all this because this is already implied in the first response, but yes, the concept of jumpscare can largely be subjective.
>The very first one happens when manually walking through Cauldron Lake.
if you were smart enough. Not only would you realize how this relates to this:
>that people had to get scared of these "cheap" jumpscares at first, a number of times to even consider it scary in the first place...which just suggests every moron that makes this argument is a pussy overcompensating.
but you'd also realize how that misses the point.
I think I've made my case and showed you have no argument. peace :p *yawn*
I said "all" as a hyperbole, but fair enough.
>it's not an event.
You don't know what an 'event' is.
>noun: a thing that happens, especially one of importance:
A monster face randomly appearing on your screen for half a second, regardless of if it's during gameplay or a cutscene, is a jumpscare per the definition of a jumpscare. You cannot argue against this.
It isn't a jump scare. It isn't trying to startle you. It's trying to convey the nature of the evil you're up against. The faces are very good, Remedy's paranatural aesthetic has always been really clean and artful. This is a force that emanates pure evil, demonic imagery straight into your brain. I like that. I decided to buy the game because of the way Nightingale's face kept popping up during his fight (an instance where it definitely isn't intended as a jump scare), I thought it was a really effective way of conveying just how relentless and pervasive the Dark Presence is as a force. It's not a monster or a lake, it's a whole other reality
The more abstract, Rorschach-looking ones are pretty tight. There's always something minimally goofy about Twin Peaks and the media it has inspired
I appreciate the hustle man, honestly. I really hope you get paid for this, and I'm not even joking. It must be kinda demoralizing to try to prop up and praise a dogshit day after day. And if this one goes away, I'm pretty sure you guys will be tasked to do the same with a next one. It genuinely looks like a hard job, hats off. One minute of complete silence for our internet-marketer brothers.
Been noticing a trend of dogshit eaters like you larping as guardians of taste. It's really sad
I agree, its pretty sad... I tried to be cool with you and you hit me with an insult. I wish AWII's "fans" wouldn't be this rude 🙁
you are genuinely browner than brown and no amount of still posting on this board in almost 2024 will ever change that you deserve the suffering the juden inflict on you
So the best way to convey it is by employing early 2000s loud noise jpeg jumpscares using the exorcist face? Are you fricking listening to yourself right now?
>It's shit because it's supposed to be shit.
That's the reason? The classic pseud defense?
>early 2000s loud noise jpeg jumps ares
Completely moronic fabrication you posted for meme points. They sound nothing alike. I play survival horror games to relax. AW2's atmosphere is fricking sumptuous.
>They sound nothing alike.
>loud noise
>sudden flash of spooky face
>rinse and repeat
>nothing alike
>It isn't a jump scare
It's a jumpscare by the definition of a jumpscare. You are moronic and huffing copium right now.
Except the cat jumping out of the closet that you thought was a monster has no purpose beyond startling you. The "jumpscares" here are integral to the Dark Force's identity as a spooky scary ambient reality. Sometimes it lingers in the air, sometimes it stabs you in the brain.
Ok. They're still jumpscares. You cannot refute this.
>It isn't a jump scare. It's trying to convey the nature of the evil you're up against.
Why do asocial morons like you think that was the poster trying to make it sound cool
>You don't know what an 'event' is.
Nice argument. I almost can't even see one. So I'll accept you concession next.
>A monster face randomly appearing on your screen for half a second
Sometimes you can barely see what it is. It's just distorted images.
>regardless of if it's during gameplay or a cutscene, is a jumpscare per the definition of a jumpscare.
This is not an argument. Just an assertion, you haven't engaged with a single thing I've said so...
>You cannot argue against this.
I'll simply accept your concession lmao since if you can't do anything but push the burden of proof on me when I've done more than enough to substantiate my belief without it being addressed, then that sounds like a YOU problem that you need to sort out.
I'm content with my dub. Don't need to convince Hitler he was delusional to be right about the nazis, and I don't need to convince you, you were a pussy who got scared by the "jumpscares" a number of times at first and that's the entire reason you think they're jumpscares and are just overcompensating for the fact that you felt like a big boy for overcoming them later on when they were STILL being spammed...even though that clearly indicates that they were jump scares as they'd lose their effectiveness to scare quickly and become expected and not scary...wait...doesn't that mean that was never the intent? Oh oops, sorry, I tried doing some of the thinking for you. My bad. I'll take your concession and begone now. Toodles :p
>ESL
>no argument
>completely avoid the topic to act like he won
Lmao, typical.
You do not know what an event is, and I posted the definition of it at you and you ignored it.
>This is not an argument. Just an assertion
That's rich coming from you, the individual who thinks jumpscares only exist if the individual has active control over a scene.
>CONCESSION ACCEPTED CONCESSION ACCEPTED
This isn't an argument, nice lack of self awareness by the way. You have not disproven that they are, in fact, jumpscares per the definition of what a jumpscare is. I'm still waiting for this.
i used to type like this when i was like 16 dude, you sound like a massive geek
>there's a fundemental premise that if something can be interpreted as scary and unexpected, then it's a jumpscare
a jumpscare is something that starltles you rather than scaring you/creeping you out. screamers serve to do nothing else but startle you and that shit get really annoying when i was chasing cynthia
Those ones were the only good ones, though. They actually got me.
besides the one when you first see her in the hallway they felt CHEAP and UNEARNED
Cynthia and Ahti jumpscares happen when you are moving around and exploring the nursing home at your own pace.
My problems with the game
>Not enough Alan
>Too many macguffins
>Bad ending
>>Not enough Alan
This is the worst offense
Saga's sections are so fricking boring is unbelievable
>80+ replies and no one posted the alan wake. anal awakening. copy/pasta yet.
>mfw
post it
Alan Wake. A. Wake. Awake. Awakening. The Great Awakening. The Great Reset. The Woke agenda. Wakanda.
Wake = Wakanda.
Alan. Anal.
Alan = Anal.
The Anal Awakening. The gay agenda. Anal wakanda. Chadwick Boseman. Ass cancer. Black gay anal sex. Buck breaking.
Alan Wake = Buck Breaking.
Saga Anderson MC of Alan Wake 2.
Sara Anderson. Half-black. White name. Racemixing. The offspring of the broken buck. The Kalergi Plan
Saga Anderson Formerly White in Quantum Break. Raceswapping. Woke agenda.
Saga Anderson. MC of Buck Breaking Wakanda 2.Product of the woke agenda.
Buck breaking. Anal sex. Hemorrhoids. Blood. AIDS. Ass Cancer. Chadwick Boseman. Anal Wakanda. Anal Wokeness. Anal awakening. Anal Wake. A-Wake. Alan Wake.
Is this an actual brainstorm session of the devs? Where did you get this?
I read this in Goldblum's voice. It was glorious.
thank you
>alan wake. anal awakening
Sounds intriguing, I'd like to know more!
troony game
>GOTY
>sub 750k sales
Not likely
It Takes Two
i played this and i legit dont get why journos are jerking this off so much
even the musical people cant stop talking about is just another ashtray maze
the survival horror gameplay is genuinely pretty engaging. i got heavy re2r vibes
>i got heavy re2r vibes
it's not remotely like RE2R AT ALL despite how many people suggest that and having played both. There are so many things that underpin and surround the gameplay that make it feel like something wholly different. Don't worry. I'll address it soon enough. It's not uncommon that sometimes the only way people can ever interpret or process something is by likening it to something else because they have no organically risen thoughts, or they're just lazy and stupid.
>Don't worry. I'll address it soon enough
yea im shuffling with anticipation over here
No. It got Robocucked
>Saga gets nominated as best performance
LMAO
As if you needed any more proof about these """critics"""
The category probably needed a quota of at least one female, and Alan Wake deserved a nomination for voice acting but not from her. But since every other nominee was a male the jury picked her instead of anyone else, like Casey, Alan, Ilmo, or even Thornton or Mulligan. Hell, these idiots could have at least picked Rose, but she isn't a main character so there's no way that would have happened.
I'm not even a schizo but I'm certain it was because of some sex quota where they can't only have men. There has never been a Game Awards ceremony where there wasn't at least one female nominee for performance.
i liked mr door
They could have EASILY chosen the Baldur's Gate 3 narrator. I don't even like the game that much but the narrator there 100% delivered a great to stellar performance the entire time. Easy female rep.
The fact that this industry has the audacity to nominate a character as insanely bland and unremarkably lacking in charisma as Saga is fricking insane. They are that desperate to fellate this shit.
This game feels a lot like Resident Evil 2 Remake!
>no achievment for beating it on hard
gay, that horde section near the end sucked
YOU CAN RELIGHT MY FIRE
Tim bought a GOTY Award for Control, and he can do it again. The GOTY will be some Critic-shilled woke game no actual person has played and is exclusive to Tim's store.
anyone else watch ahti sing for like 10 minutes before realizing it loops
Why does he look like that?
He got the rizz
this thread is for REAL alan wake fans only
I changed from Normal to Story because at first I failed at Nightingale and got triggered and just wanted to enjoy smooth ride with minimum stress.
How did you have any trouble? This game is easy even on hard. All the enemies are too passive.
The only people who find this hard are the morons that fight the respawning enemies
The respawning enemies don't add any difficulty.
zoomers got LYNCHED
I think this thread is sabotaged by Baldur Gate furries because they are scared that AW2 actually has potential to be GOTY
Why does it matter if something gets to be GOTY?
Alan Wake got nominated due to recency bias and because something had to take Starfield's place after it was such a bomb that it couldn't credibly be nominated. It has no chance of winning, it has less than 1/10th the popularity of the other games on there and far less acclaim than BG3.
>popular=good
Also let me remind you that AW2 released like two weeks ago.
>because something had to take Starfield's place
yeah...the new IP that nobody cared about until they actually played it that was essentially a passion project from a studio with only 100 emplyees HAD to take the spot of new IP with the same gameplay loop as established IP's from well known popular studio...for sure.
I'm saying Starfield would have been the default 6th slot game but it was so bad that even the Bethesda brand couldn't get it nominated. Alan Wake is the filler nominee along with RE4 since a remake has no chance of winning. If Alan Wake had come out in the spring and Final Fantasy XIV had come out last month then the latter probably would have been nominated in its place, but it doesn't matter cause none of these games have any chance of winning.
*XVI
Why is GOTY more important than the Oscars? We all know at this point that Movie awards are bullshit, why do people give a shit about the GOTY? Im not trying to be cute, i'd really like to know.
dude BG3 is on that Elden Ring hype, sorry AW2 is not even close to that mainstream love
>interactive walking sim
its hardly even a video game
Will Control 2 or the Max Payne remake be next
Max Payne remakes. They basically have all the assets from Alan Wake 2 anyway so hopefully it only takes a couple years
https://www.ign.com/articles/max-payne-1-and-2-remake-now-ready-for-production-remedy-says
Why does this gays face look like fricking made of plastic?
makeup
>remedy shills once again trying to damage control for their shitty games
they haven't made a good game since max payne 2
I disagree, i think it was a slow descent into shittyness. AW 1 wasn't as good as MP 2, but it was genuinely interesting and a fresh idea, used at the time top notch rendering techniques for shadows and lights. DLCs were forgettable, but fun to play. Quantum Brake was an another unique concept with some solid gameplay but it was bogged down by shitty live action scenes and low-tier writing. Enter Control. The story and feel was weird in a bad way, but the gameplay mechanics were fresh and unique, what made the game playable and fun at least. Then AW 2. AW 2 is a fusion of every mistake Control and Quantum Break did minus a fresh idea. unique setting, and fun gameplay, plus they let a frankeinstein of a "consultation company" have its way with their original script. They knew how to make good games, but they slowly forgot how to, until we ended up with whatever AW II supposed to be. I grew up with the MP games and AW, i have fond memories with them, but I'm not biased enough to think AW II is anything but bad,
This "game" would be better if it's a series
Thoughts on Sam Lake? I’m always a little put off by how much he wants to be euro Kojima.
Everybody is totally gay for you Sami, go to sleep.
He writes better than Kojima but in terms of actual game desin and direction la creatividad runs laps around him.
>He writes better than Kojima
>generic Twin Peaks rip-off with bland diverse female protagonist #2800 and Sweet Baby consulting
Go play Death Stranding again.
>He writes better than Kojima
that's not a big deal, translator of mgs2 criticized Kojima for being worse than a B tv show writer
I should actually finish this game rather than just talk about it on 4chab
we're actually reaching a level of horrifying uncanny valley with some of the face capturing.
it probably will win because critics basically choose the winner, and critics love remedy games for some reason
>devs self inserting is cringe unless it's a game I like.
Why does Remedy make the shittiest fricking decisions for every game?
>AW was originally a 360 exclusive
>Quantum Break was an Xbone exclusive and a shitty Netflix game
>Control was a timed Ebin exclusive
>AW2 is another Ebin exclusive
More like no one would fund their games beside wanting some awards to their name
so who was Door anyway? What did he mean by Wake's writing endangering someone he cares about? Is Saga's daughter alive? Are we really ending on another cliffhanger?
I want to know Creatividad's opinion on this game, it's the kind of game for him
Did he played it?
no, but he riked the cutscenes
He ugly
we're reaching that breaking point again of Alan Wake 2 thread unequivocally being shit and no actual discussion ever occurring. think I'm just going to go play the game now. this board needs to be burnt down so bad. or it'll never become anything worth a damn. many society's were reborn anew, greater, better, and stronger from ww2. this place needs that.
No one gives a shit about what you want to play autist. You aren't as important as you want to think, so there's no need to write your your diary on the website.
>game is troon because one protag is a black woman
>there is literally not a single instance of writing or dialogue that goes troony about her skin color or her gender and the only gay thing literally in the entire game is one mexican fbc agent saying she had an ex-wife
I hope you are paid to do this otherwise the israelites totally buck broke you a long time ago to kneejerk react to everything like a spastic, and you will never accomplish anything in life being a tool of the israelites
This.
They should go ahead and buy this slop like the good goy- I mean normal brained consumers they are! What a bunch of sensitive sissies
you will never be white
My condolonces to AW2gays for having this resident autist ruin every thread lmao
>played max payne 1, alan wake, quantum break, & control for the 1st time leading up to AW2 release the last 4 months
> reading/watching all the little alan wake hints all the back to quantum break
> reading all the little side notes/ from every game explaining the lore and seeing it all tie together in control Awe expansion
> enjoy Aw2 more due to all the easter eggs and characters that are there but not.
> 100% it 1st playthrough in 30 hours
> after credits
> the anticipation for control 2 and Aw3 is making me cum fat buckets for ahti to clean up
>I ascend out of the spiral
> I am free
Remedy is kinda based guys worth the investment of playing the old games beforehand
hopefully they get the rights back to quantum break from microsoft and do something more with that IP
>kneelerino you unwholesome chungus peasant, isn't this such a quirky way of talking???
>It's troon because....it just is!!!
judenliebhabers get the rope too btw
Epic shills were being paid overtime to promote this game on Ganker, I encountered one a few days ago who tried to argue RE4 was a worse game than AW2
the remake of 4? most definitely is, sorry capcom shill, your diversity hire ada is shit and the game is unimaginative compared to the original groundbreaking re4, only the goyest of goys buys resident evil remakes
>Anyone who says Alan Wake 2 is a bad game clearly didn't even play it.
The slow burn of the first 30-45 minutes until the first visit to the morgue and the body jumpscare leading into the supernatural events. Literally thought I was playing True Detective the first 45 minutes in. Game ramps up from that point forward
The unexpected live action scene blending plus musical shit. I don't even like music or musicals but even I thought the songs were pretty fricking well performed
The songs performed at the end of each chapter. First 3 were definitely Kino as frick. The rest are pretty good. A totally unexpected/extra element easily skipped if you don't wait the first 10 seconds after a chapter/part ends.
Best lighting/general graphics I've seen to date. Almost maxed my 4090. Money well spent. Game looks so good it hurts my eyes in 4k.
If this shit doesn't win GOTY I'll be surprised.
My mom and I pitched a game to Matt. He loved it