>MHW, 22 million sold
>on PS4, PC, and Xbox
>Rise, 13 million sold
>On Switch, PS4, PS5, Xbox One, XSX, PC
Why has MHW sold so much more than Rise despite it being on less platforms? It's not even on Switch.
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World was so bad that people gave up on Monster Hunter.
I bought world because it doesn't have denuvo. I refuse to buy Rise because it has denuvo.
World used to have Denuvo, too
Capcom usually remove Denuvo after dropping support for a game. Wait for last update for Rise and add extra 6 months and denuvo should be gone from Rise too.
Had fun with both so idrc senpai
Because it was the first MH game on consoles and PC after many years.
MHW had prettier graphics and a bigger marketing push
This too
It's the difference between "why did this bottle I shook for two hours burst immediately but then it only had a normal amount of pressure afterwards?"
The prospect of a super pretty HD Monster Hunter game on modern hardware got everyone excited and it was pretty novel for a lot of people. But I wager a lot of people decided they weren't that big on Monster Hunter after trying it out, and those people didn't pick up Rise.
Rise's audience is probably the same way but with Nintendo fans (though MHGU did come out and was pretty good in 2018 on Switch).
The basic gist to understand here is that MHW2/MHRise 2 will probably not sell as well as MHW1/MHRise. Why? Because people actually know what these games are like now and have made up their minds on whether they like them or not. There's less FOMO/novelty associated with them.
It's like how FF8 sold 8 million units and FF9 sold 5 million. The success of the newest entry in a long running series is usually somewhat affected by how people felt about the previous one. And if people played World/Rise because they were Flavor of the Month and then realized they don't like this type of action game, they're unlikely to pick up the next entry
I bet World 2 (or whatever they are going to call it) is going to sell even better than World 1.
That's still a ton for both
Can't wait for 6 bros
rise looks like a mobile game
should I buy world if I liked rise?
yes but remember it's way slower
Yea probably. It has a lot more issues but it's still a good game.
I liked World and then I also enjoyed Rise, so go for it I guess.
Skip a few titles backwards and play 3U or 4U instead
Despite being a little worse than most, it's still a fine monster hunter entry.
still both are worse than gu
World was a lot of guy's first and last Monster Hunter. They bought a game for hype and dropped it a week later.
It was perceived as a step back in the technology used to create the game, thus giving the impression of a lower quality production (which it kind of is). Put that in with a couple ill conceived mechanics (spiritbirds) and baffling decisions (online and how it's structured) and you have a deservedly less popular game.
What console warriors fail to realize is that none of this means Rise is a bad game. It is in fact an amazing one and insanely fun with legit improvements that World's sequel could definitely use, like the weapon designs, the return of actual lore blurbs for each monster material, dem dogs, some weapon moveset additions (particularly for hammer) and most importantly that 60 fps that the game managed to achieve (probably not on switch tho).
I can't stress enough how much more fluid Rise feels thanks to a better framerate. Like holy shit, I thought I was getting old and slow but no, it was the damn game all along.
World hit a zeitgeist of casual engagement that monhun never had previously.
Now that it has been proven that this was a huge fricking mistake, Rise returned somewhat back to the roots, abandoning worldsperm who were just touring the franchise from the hype generation.
Now capcom should just continue to return further back on failed systems and keep successful ones. Actual, real monhun players will play it, worldsperm be damned.
Love Monster Hunter, disregard platform warring poorgays
Monhun threads these days are more about which title “killed” the series forever though
Nah he's right, you have to be a literal Black person to make MH threads just be "THAT PLATFORM GETTING A GAME MAKES ME MORE BUTTHURT THAN HAPPY".
MHW is on PS5 and XSX, too, dummy
Because, prior to World, Monhun was a rather niche series.
World pulled pulled out all the stops with the higher fidelity graphics, advertising, etc that drew in the normalgay crowd that tried out a game they likely thought was the first entry to exist and most of them filtered out.
Can confirm. at least 10 people I knew at my part time job bought world and talked about their builds and such, but dropped it after slaying Nergigante. Didnt even get to Xenojiiva
both of these are base game numbers?
Anyone who doesn't think a new monster hunter game would be on all three major platforms at once after all those game sales is in extreme denial and delusion. It all depends whether nintendo cares about having strong enough hardware for it.
I'd buy Rise if it was cheaper. A PS5/PC port of a mobile game that comes out a year after release should be like $20 on sale right now including the expansion pack.
Capcom's #1 and #2 best selling games ever btw
World was a master stroke. Lightning in a bottle. You can just do it again on purpose.
Rise only just got ported to Xbox and Playstation. MHW launched on both AND on PC after a long hiatus of not being on home consoles and never being on PC period. MHW has also been out 3 years longer
>despite it being on less platforms?
They diluted all the potential customers. Rise came out on Switch, then after 1 year it went to Steam only, this already put off a lot of people not wanting to do all the grind again, And after a while it came out on PS5/Xbox, which made the new player base even smaller from people who are done with it or won't change platforms.
When world came out it was on all platforms at the same time except switch
>When world came out it was on all platforms at the same time except switch
Part of the reason it caused the platform wars it did is because it didn't come to PC for several months. It was literally PS4 exclusive in Japan since they didn't get an Xbox version.
is Monster Hunter like WoW raiding in a sense?
I enjoyed that long ago during vanilla and BC and have missed that sort of content since
I've never played a Monster Hunter game but I have an Xbox Series X and soon a gaming PC
Generally no, but World has raid like fights that weren't a thing prior in the series
As someone that used to raid in WoW and is a huge fan of Monster Hunter. Not at all.
Monster Hunter is really hard to compare to any other genre as it is very much it's own thing. It's only slight comparison would be something like Dark Souls but in a tiny way.
maybe a little bit like classic wow as in if you are the moron to farm even the most rarest usable you will have a slight advantage, but besides that not at all
World got a lot of hype because a ton of people were discovering Monster Hunter for the very first time. It was the first Monster Hunter game available on those platforms (if you don't count stuff like Frontier, which most of them didn't have access to). It was, for all intents and purposes, baby's first Monster Hunter.
Rise also released on Switch first, so a ton of newcomers on other platforms who wanted to play Monster Hunter played a title that WAS available on their platform at the time. That, of course, being World. Rise literally drove more World sales.
World is great because it wasn't like most MH games. Most of the gear wasn't pure dogshit tranime cancer, it had great production values, mostly all new monsters that make sense in their habitat and aren't just thrown together without any reason. Didn't have dogshit "variants and subspecies" and other cheap recolor monsters. Still had cancer like high rank, tempered monsters, insect glaive, various tranime weapon moves, shitty tranime pokemon looking monsters like Teostra and gimmicks like the arm cannon bullshit but it was mostly okay. Ever since Tri this was the best and only MH game in the same spirit as MH1.
Iceborne and Rise were complete trash though and ruined all the good things World achieved.
>Didn't have dogshit "variants and subspecies" and other cheap recolor monsters
Azure Rathalos, Pink Rathian and Black Diablos were in the base game
Yeah. Azure and Pink were just the bottom of the barrel. Indefensible garbage. But compare that to the usual amount e.g. what Iceborne or what handheld MH games have.
>Most of the gear wasn't pure dogshit tranime cancer
boring armor and weapons aren't a good thing, moron
>World is great because it wasn't like most MH games
This is like saying "Dragon Age 2 was great because it wasn't like any Bioware games that had come before"
>tranime tranime tranime
Shut the frick up and have a nice day, even if you're just ironic shit posting.
>monsters that make sense in their habitat and aren't just thrown together without any reason.
I love this because I can just immediately discard the entire post, because clearly you have no fricking clue what you are talking about. Monsters from the oldgen games have way more thought put into their ecology than Worldshit, where “fanged wyvern” was retconned into meaning “anything that looks like a lizard” when it should be monsters like Zinogre who share traits with both Fanged Beasts and wyverns. Hell, Flying Wyvern used to be the “giant lizard” category because Akantor and Ukanlos shared some lineage with Tigrex. Later games with the fanged beast categorization were careful not to mess with this aspect of the ecology and world throws it out because they just stopped giving a shit about the established universe and wanted to make a the video game equivalent of a bad Discovery channel speculative biology miniseries
Yes I’m mad. Frick world. And it absolutely had subspecies and model reuses too, it was just slightly better hiding them
>tranime looking monsters like teostra
he literally looks like he’s from a medieval manuscript
world has better graphics and monsters, also character and gear design are way better
world is a better monhun than rise, and thats a fact
>world has better graphics
This is the only correct thing in your entire post.
I really wish the Cemu version of 3U had online, I fricking hate emulating the 3DS.
HD collection with FU, 3U, 4U, and GU on PC when?
Capcom wouldn’t do that because they know it would cannibalize sales. If we do get ports of old games it will be behind some serious monkey paw shit (monthly sub, always online, etc)
Sorry, best we can do is 1 HD (G rank sold separately)
Rise only just launched on PS and Xbox.
World had 3 years headstart.
mh rise is doing better than expected
>b team
no need for rise, i'm still playin world
Is the ICE mod that good?
>another monster hunter SALES figures thread
They advertised World super hard to dudebros.
Then Iceborne was a massive flop. 1/3rd retention rate. Guess all those dudebros went back to fifa and call of duty lmao.
>1/3rd retention rate
what DLC has done better than that?
Sunbreak
Many of the previous games had a 90%+ retention rate for the expansion.
Rise was a mistake
World haters absolutely seething here. Be mad. MH6 will be World 2, and there’s nothing you trannies can do about it.
Are you OK, anon? You sound a little unhinged.
i played both and ill play 6 i dont get why people are fighting they are literally the same game
>i dont get why people are fighting
Worldnigs are MMO refugees and Souls morons. They fight with everyone.
Because gays on here are seething. They posted a hilarious prediction that World wouldn’t sell, and were btfo worse than anyone in Ganker history. Absolutely legendary. And they haven’t been able to let it go. Like this homo.
Best thing? My squad has been asking if I think it’ll be more like world. They hated rise and we’ve been waiting to get the band back together. Gonna be glorious.
You look like the only one seething, anon.
It'll be back to slow monsters with bad tracking?
What did capcom mean by this?
wow but look at how detailed the dust and debris are in world!
MH6 will be RE Engine and very likely based on Rise Code the B-Team had ready when IB development finished. I'd assume they started with thematical adjustments as I doubt the Ninja stuff will return.
sehle.
snoys will call rise easy, solely basing this on low rank village great izuchi, when level 300 special investigation risen shagaru magala exists.