Monster Hunter community:
>"Longsword is... LE BAD!!"
Calm, reasonable, intelligent player:
>"Why?"
Monster Hunter community:
>"Because they made it too well designed, fun and good and my favorite eceleb said i need to hate it because of that!!!"
Why are they like this?
MH is best enjoyed not interacting with the community in any way, shape or form beyond downloading pings MH dex
You're not wrong, the MH community is a fricking crab bucket, constantly trying to tear eachother down.
This is made even worse by the mentally ill, console war obsessed tendies that infest this franchise now.
I've literally never seen this
Close your eyes, then you'll see them.
You're doing the exact thing you're condemning
>mainstream popularity
>damage numbers
>only form of potential pvp is hunt times
World and its consequences has been a disaster for Monster Hunter.
Capcom needs to start banning modgays, the fact that i see people talk about DPS meters not just here but in the comments of like every MH youtube video now is a disturbing trend.
This had me thinking of a possibility of Monster Hunter PvP and the only real idea I can think of is a tetris-attack style arena match. Both hunters fight their respective monsters to see who can kill it the fastest, all the while fulfilling certain criteria (stuns, breaks etc) that make the opponent's monster enrage or do certain things. Maybe they could even throw in shit like bullfangos and traps that trip your opponent up when you do good.
Would probably be a balancing nightmare but I like the idea of a competition-based PvEvP style thing that doesn't actually have you whacking your opponent directly.
I would hate this, Monster Hunter shouldn't have any competitive element whatsoever.
I want a few multiplayer to exist that are purely about cooperation, i can already play basically anything else if i wanna compete against others.
That would also make the reddit minmax trannies go into full overdrive.
>Monster Hunter PvP
what is it's a 4 v 1 monster vs hunter game where you play as the monster
>asymmetrical PvP
No
This would be fun if PvP didn’t ruin everything it touches. I’ve always thought a duel mode would be fun as long as no balance decisions were made around it.
>World and its consequences has been a disaster for Monster Hunter.
5th gen as a whole made MH ten times more interesting, and I'm tired of pretending it didn't
Classic MH ended either with 4U or GU, depending of what you think, and they were both amazing send offs
MH needed a shake up, and 5th gen was exactly that
Nobody cares, worldabortion.
I started with Freedom 1 but ok
>MH needed a shake up
You can like World all you want, but this is objectively untrue. MH would do just fine staying the way it was. Consistency/not reinventing the wheel is an extremely undervalued philosophy in modern game design.
It's not about reinventing the wheel, it's about adapting to times
The old gameplay arguably already showed everything it could do with GU and Frontier
The assets reached a point where you couldn't port them anymore, so no matter what, fifth gen required to remake everything from scratch
Plus that style wasn't suitable for AAA multi, which was the only way to go after 4U/Gen, considering
>Switch not announced yet
>3DS at the end of life cycle and losing audience to mobile gaming
>Wii U dead
>Vita dead
NTA but the series felt stale as frick by the time XX came out, it absolutely was a good thing that they changed things.
Gen 1, 2 and 3 all significantly evolved the series in one way or another, but on the 3DS it started stagnating like crazy and most of the additions to the series were superficial at best, besides the new weapons in 4.
World was the natural evolution of the series and clearly what they always wanted it to be, to some extent, but couldn't make it so because of technological limitations.
Watch any of the old ecology videos or opening cutscenes, that shit's basically what World looks and feels like.
who are you quoting moron
>community
troon
>hating asian weapon in asian game
Cringe, fricking cringe racists.
Because parroting memes is easier than using your own brain to think.
Just say the line, JC.
Now you're a part of the group.
And you get to insult someone else for free.
>It's okay to make fun of Insect Glaive because it's predominantly used by french shitters
>It's not okay to make fun of Longsword because it's predominantly used by american shitters
People made fun of IG because they used to spam nothing but the jump and essentially did no damage, people get mad at LS simply because it's good and popular.
t. world bandwaggoner
People get mad at LS players because they force everyone to run flinch free and cart constantly.
I've been playing since FU you fricking Black person.
The flinch free thing is such a gay npc meme to parrot, not just is that not actually an issue for most weapons in nuMH, it's also not something you should complain about.
LS players shouldn't have to gimp the frick out of their damage just so you can carry another attack up gem instead of a skill that not just increases your QoL in multiplayer bur consequently buffs party DPS significantly.
YOU are the selfish homosexual for asking LS players to not hit the best value zones just because you don't wanna slot in a skill.
This is what LSgays actually believe.
Or you could play Switchaxe and do more damage without being a hassle to everyone around you. Might also save you from future mental breakdowns like this
Or i'll play what i want and you can continue to mald out about it, you go hit the monster's butthole for white numbers if you don't wanna share the head with me.
Why should I be malding? I just don't play with LS shitters and continue making fun of them on here.
Why are you going for the head? Go for the tail stump
Sure when it's convenient to do so, not going for the head when it's more convenient to do so at the time would be a colossal dps loss for no reason.
OP' completely proven right by homosexuals like
>t-they're tripping me in multiplayer!!
>I could use all these new moves introduced in Sunbreak, but I wont because... just because I wont OK??
>b-but muh dps
>I could be a team player, but I won't because... just because I won't OK??
>"i could slot in this one single skill that would allow the entire team to go for the highest damaging zones, but instead i'm gonna demand that you hit worse spots than me and thus lower team dps dramatically!"
Insane how you can hold this position and accuse anyone else of not being a team player.
You're the selfish shitter leech, not the LS player doing his best to do the highest amount of damage he can.
>hits exclusively the head
>doesn't even attempt to break anything or cut tails
>takes everything in the item box
>doesn't know how items work
>carts three times every hunt
Many such cases with the LSgays.
>hits exclusively the head
I'm sure this happens sometimes but i think it's mostly confirmation bias.
People see an LSgay hit a head ever and immediately their brain goes 'ugh typical LS player', when chances are the tail will still come off before the hunt is over anyway and there's no need for any bladed weapon player to go out of their way to ONLY target the tail.
Why are you still samegayging in this thread? I would like to believe you're just baiting but these posts seem almost genuine. Actually it's more fun to believe you're genuinely hurt by people making fun of your weapon on a taiwanese carpet weaving forum.
LSgays are very fragile. That's why they cart so much.
Another anon here, why don’t you slot in flinch free? Everyone could hit the head and do much more damage if you just slotted in 1 level of FF. Can’t handle losing the +2 raw damage from one attack gem?
>everyone
You mean just the one LSgay that only knows how to spam spirit combo when the monster is downed.
Not that guy but i get staggered just as much by sns or db when going for a downed monster's head, flinch free is just generally a good skill to bring into multiplayer
>just as much by sns and db
False, no one plays those weapons.
??? If everyone slots in 1 level of FF (commonly done anyways) then everyone does more damage by being able to hit a better hit zone uninterrupted.
Damn you're actually seething over getting destroyed by me, this is pathetic.
Never too late to stop being a worthless leech bro, all it takes is one gem slot.
Sounds like you are not really fun to hunt with. Not really a monster hunter brother eh?
The french are only 1-quarter people anon. Everything they do should be made fun of least they think they’re above their station and rise up.
When will the Pokke set return?
>LS is the problem
>not how absurdly easy it is to stack attack, wex, cb, crit, and whatever FotM skill that outclasses all others by simply existing such as dragonheart and the qurio one
All damage up in every form that isn't a consumable should be deleted in MH6.
>All damage up in every form that isn't a consumable should be deleted in MH6.
God i wish, an MH game with ONLY utility skills and skills that affect how you play would be kino, damage skills are so boring.
>bro everyone should hunt with hunger resistance, recovery speed and free meal !!!
next you'll call those "annoying FOTM skills" too
Make harder monsters then, not my problem.
Because LS is the most popular weapon, so the devs give it all the good shit while other weapons are left to rot
You can use longsword all you want, just don't join my lobby you fricking shitter.
I will join your lobby
LS will forever be a nuisance because every single action flinches/trips other players
>too well designed, fun
LS in Rise fricking sucks because it's just gay ass spammy bullshit. They really need to nerf sheathing speed for ISS, take away the Spirit level increase and take out Sacred Sheathe. I want to actually have to use all the moves in my goddamn moveset again instead of just spamming Sakura Slash and Sacred Sheathe.
Use the other moves then. Noones stopping you
But they are dogshit compared to Sakura Slash and sacred Sheathe spam. Maybe if they actually balanced shit properly, I could use them without doubling my times.
Have you tried using counters and Foresight?
The longsword is bad because it literally invalidates every single other melee weapon despite being easier than most of them.
Dual Blades is far better than LS
Post your speedruns with LS.
Even though you're just shitposting, I'll throw in some comments, why the frick not.
Collectively people shit on LS users because it's one of the typical weapons new players pick up, and because of that it's a bit of a crap shoot given how well they're going to do in the hunt. In addition, since their attacks are often so wide, as people have mentioned, they'll often trip other hunters. Come World, it was Long Sword that really epitomized the speed runner "just use the one attack over and over" with their counter and helm splitter, making watching them fight get boring very, very quickly.
So while tripping is annoying a 1 slot gem will fix it easy, the rest of it has much more to do with the fact that the weapon attracts people who don't know how to play the game. Exact same reason people shat on Hunting Horn players for just standing in a corner, because the weapon attracted people that didn't know how to play, and didn't have any interest in learning how to play.
>be me dual blades lad
>Fight solo because friends drop rise.
>Finally hop in lobby because why not.
>See the only player with lance in lobby.
>See heavybow gun play scarfing down dango.
>LS lad ready at quest board.
>Hunt starts me and LS dude go around scaring birds.
>Other hunters B line it for afflicted teo/brach/zin/cuga get stamina maxed out get life at 3/4
>3 mins into the hunt heading towards fight.
>Randos already carted
>Me and LS lad start blitzing
>Cut tail 5
6 min in.
>Take turn setting stun traps then hack away.
>8mins in monster runsaway.
>Sharpen blade drink dash energy.
>HB and lone lance user get there first.
>Cart
Was there a moral to this story? Probably that there are worse players than a ls user.
>barely play like it used too
>whole moveset is ditched for few moves to counter everything while shitting out damages
> they made it too well designed
> they made it too well designed
> they made it too well designed
> they made it too well designed
Bro the LS moveset in old MH was literally
>overhead
>overhead again
>poke
>uppercut
>repeat
>spirit gauge combo
And that was IT.
I also sometimes miss the simplicity of old MH movesets, but don't pretend like this vast moveset got lost to the new LS kit, its counter-based playstyle is still far more reactive and complex than the old style.
I wish LS still play like that. The addition of tempered blade seems to encourage it but you lose so much damage if you don't spam helmbreaker/sacred sheath.
And now it's
>sakura slash
>helmsplitter
>sacred sheathe combo
>iai counter
and literally nothing else.
I only kill monsters once and then give myself all their materials with cheat engine or mods, and then tackle the next monster.
Farming monsters is bugman mentality and not enjoyable.
I see all the game has to offee in 150 hrs and then move on.
MH on consoles is asiatic grinding bullshit.
The baiting is just getting sad now. Frick off, Black person.
Not bait, have fun getting tripped because you can’t part with one level of speed eating/hunger free lol
So true, long sword haters really are pathetic.
If you're a good hunter it shouldn't matter what other hunters are using. A good hunter hunts with all weapons. Having a "main" is cringe, caring about dps is cringe, ranged is cringe, minmaxxing is cringe. It hasn't even been necessary since better metal snake. Good hunters are all over the monster anyways and all weapons have a path to greatness. The only time its appropriate to shit on other players is if they cart. Carting means you're bad. Addendum: playing ranged means you're a pussy, but its still an acceptable form of play. You just have to be aware of how it makes you a gaping vegana.
All the other weapons are JUST AS GOOD. If you can't pump with a hammer, GS, DS, or even a homosexual bow then it is a SKILL ISSUE.
>I-I’m a good hunter!!!
>*lets themselves get tripped*
uh huh
tripping is a non issue you fricking homosexual
Its pussy shit because its easy. Used to be that the tradeoff was lower armor for the dps and status chicanery, often resulting in a one shot once you hit higher G. Now they pat you on the ass and treat you like a real weapon class with real armor. Its free numbies for very little effort. I respect Lance and GL more.
>Now they pat you on the ass and treat you like a real weapon class with real armor.
Your defense still gets halved even if you use the same armor as a normal class.
At least that's how it was in World, i doubt it changed in Rise.
>t-tripping isn’t an issue!
>NOOO STOP SHOOTING ME RANGED WEAPONS AHHH
that was never the thrust of my argument. I called ranged pussy shit and said people who complain about tripping aren't real hunters.
I can find no evidence of this, even wiki pages make no note of reduced def for ranged weapons in MHR or MHW
https://monsterhunterworld.wiki.fextralife.com/Defense
>IT SHOULD BE NOTED, Gunners(Light Bowgun, Heavy Bowgun, Bow) have a hidden -30% Penalty to Defense
well I'll be fricked, 30% huh? I might have to be less cruel to rangedcucks in the future
Idk where this ranged = pussy mentality came from, i feel way more vulnerable when i use ranged weapons (besides HBG) since any hit does so much damage and you often need to get close to the monster anyway.
It's made even worse by how shit the aerial hitboxes in Rise are, half the time you do some weird jumping stuff with LBG the monster will hit you even if it's 3 meters below you.
I want honest weapons that does balanced amount of dmg, if I hunt with a friend and I have to dodge something he can just press a button to completely mitigate without carrying huge ass shield then something isn't right, if my friend barely even touch the monster while I'm constantly on him and he still does more dmg without holding a big ass bonker that cast nuke on use then something isn't right, I want to invest effort and be rewarded for it, when I hunt with LS user or use LS myself I don't feel like there is any effort put into the fight.
Imagine your boss picking one of your coworkers as twitch streamer to talk about your job, he does nothing else and earn 4x your money, would you feel like this dude contribute to your hard work or would you think that dude get money for nothing and there is something wrong with the management for enabling this.
>if I hunt with a friend and I have to dodge something he can just press a button to completely mitigate without carrying huge ass shield then something isn't right
But literally every single weapon in the game can do that now.
Yeah but uh imagine the LS player is a big black dude and he fricks your girlfriend in front of you. Do you get it now????????
This is exact reason why I dropped Rise, my weapon couldn't do that in World and I don't want that ability either because it feel cheap and dishonest, the fact devs feel the need to give it to me just because LS power creep fuel monster power creep and now I "need" it is simply disgusting. I can only hope the next game will stop this insanity because that will be the last chance I'm willing to give this franchise.
More like the weapon is designed to perma-trip every other player on the screen.
Longsword is only viable solo or on very large monsters.
>slot in ff like every non moron
>no issue
Hammergays gonna gay
>nooooo get away from the head
It got a bad stigma because every newbie moron that picks up the game uses it exclusively.
I thought Ganker hated games having easy mode, is it a good thing now?
Truth is Long Sword is badly design. You have braindead combo with Sacred Sheath and Sakura Slash and moveset for high end players like counters. There is nothing in between. The monsters in MR or EX also not really encouraging using the starting moveset provided by the players before you can switch them. The monsters either move away before you finish the final slash to upgrade your meter or you stuck in CD for your Kick.
>But LS ISS is too strong!
Stop looking up speedrunning videos, idiot. And stop playing the game like an autist.
>wanting pvp
amerians were a mistake
You want to talk insufferable?
CHARGE BLADE USERS
>doing a lot of damage and having a move set that allows for skilled plays with guard points is bad…okay?!
Have fun with you 30 minute hunts bro.
>putting a colon after who is supposed to be talking
have a nice day redditor. I hate people who type like this.
Them liking Rise should be enough of a clue for you to realize that it doesn't matter what they say.
>good reach, good attack speed
>repositioning attacks make it mobile
>TWO fricking largely reliable counters in the core moveset
>is the reason why Critical Draw gets nerfed again when the skill was turned into dogshit for past use cases
>went from a build & spend weapon with a unique albeit limited disengagement, to effectively having nearly everything
>meanwhile plenty of other weapons either have nowhere near as much safety, are held back by arbitrary design decisions, and in Rise - may be more reliant on wirebugs to carry out the best of their damage regularly
lol no frick you and frick capcom