New YONG YEA dub just dropped for Yakuza 8.
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New YONG YEA dub just dropped for Yakuza 8.
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YOOOOONG OUT OF BUSINESS
lul
Why can't western dubs hire actual decent VAs again? They do it in foreign dubs.
Real voice actors are too expensive thanks to unions
Why doesn't anyone else do it like From? Skip the celebs, skip the con-circuit VAs and look for some decent no-name theater people who need an extra gig.
Because you'd have to hire Brits and Americans spaz out when they hear a Brit speak in a video game.
fricking this so bad. theater gays can make some really good voice actors
they can actually sing, too
Surprise, that's the case in japan too.
Because that’s marginally more expensive and Sekiro proves that most who single out From’s casting choices as a huge part of their appreciation for them and their games will still play them dubbed even when that goes against said notion. Why spend extra cash when you’ll get the same reception?
Because the Japanese have an exclusive contract with those theater bongs. The moment some burger steps in its game over.
>union VAs
>good
Why not just hire actors who don't belong to unions?
that's what they did. they hired a youtube actor.
No casting done, they just phone up an intermediary company that hooks all the nepotistic talentless fricks together for yet another mediocre, soulless VA job.
I think SEGA is trying to get free advertising with youtuber VAs.
Because for whatever reason it's now illegal for voice actors to voice characters that aren't the same race as them because it's "appropriation"
See: all the Simpsons characters who lost their original voices like Hibbert, Carl, and Apu
Yong isn't even japanese though, that feels even more racist than if they just got a white guy. literally
>AR ROOK SAME
They don't care, he's adjacent enough because he's Asian, unlike Darryl.
>Born to Korean parents and raised in Venezuela before moving to America at the age of 14
he's not even japanese why is he voice acting kiryu then ?
Jingweon voice massacre
theyre all slanty eyed does it really matter which state in china they came from
VA from actors don't sell the game but from a media person does. Cdpr opened this Pandora box
Because the vast majority of english-speaking customers lap it up. Just look at how many people say things like "it's just as good, if not better than the original, you're just a weeb" on Ganker alone. Now imagine how it is with normalgays.
This. The customers usually don't care, no matter how awful the dub is. Yakuza is a big exception since the series is well known for its japanese dub even in the west.
Here's the deal
Voice Actors for games, english dubs of japanese games, and the like are like a step below the usual voice actors who not only do voice acting but also act in some movies. Unless you're a part of the upper limit of actors turned voice actors, you're not going to make SHIT for money.
So why would there be a big pool of voice actors pursuing this sort of job when it pays so little? Passion may count for something but it isn't going to fully pay the bills when you're pursuing a career that is like E/F-Tier Acting in the payment department. So since the pool shrinks, the people in charge of dubs who are with localizers usually just hire people they know and it's no secret that localization companies in general are nepotistic as frick.
But the generation of e-celebs with pre-established audiences on YT and other platforms broke open a new pandora's box for cheap voice acting dub payments. Since there's literally nobody else actively pursuing these jobs, they go to the Youtubers instead because not only can they pay cheap, the money might be guaranteed because your modern e-celeb worshiper are guaranteed sales.
Westoids are pozzed
I keep expecting Kiryu to tell me about lootboxes or something
>saejima sounds more like kiryu than anyone else
should've just used that guy instead
Should've just stuck with Darryl Kurylo
can't have a white guy voicing an asian character, now. that would be wacist.
Isn't Matt Mercer voicing Majima
until i complain on twitter about it enough, through 600 sock accounts.
Daryl Kurylo has a great voice but his delivery still sucks as much as it did back in the dub for the original yakuza
Why does he sound so unnatural?
hes putting on a fake gravely voice that he cant do
What-uhhhhhh do you mean-uhhhhhh? Tough guys-uhhhhhh always heavily-uhhhh exhale when they speak-uhhhhhhhhh.
It sounds like it's either filtered or spoken through a tin can, it's not natural for his voice
Because he has a crappy range and is not a good voice actor.
>can't finish a sentence without running out of breath
If after this long you’re still choosing to play anything dubbed you have absolutely no right to complain about any voice performance or performances. You don’t have any excuses at this point, you are can’t pick the shit option of your own volition and then act affronted by how shit it is anymore
You can however shit on dubs in general, because they deserve to be
No one is playing the game dub you moron. Almost everyone is playing it subbed and we are just here to laugh at yongyea shit performance and massive hypocrisy
>No one is playing the game dub
Naive or just in denial?
I dont think so. Fans see pretty vocal about playing it dubbed over subbed, more so than most other series.
CohhCarnage, a so-called Yakuza "superfan", who was one of the people with a cameo in the Isshin remake, played Y7 with the english dub from Day 1 and said he preferred it (without ever listening to it in japanese first). Normalgays, and especially americans, do not care about voice acting at all, so long as it saves them from having to read a single line of dialogue and due to their inherent insecurity they will talk shit about anyone who prefers the original.
7's dub is really good.
Thanks for immediately proving the point, dubgay.
It really isn't. There are a handful of good VAs in it, while pretty much the entire cast of side characters sounds like shit.
It's not. I did everything but substories on my NG+ run in English to see how it was after everyone kept saying it was a decent one.
>See
Nanba is the one who sucks absolute ass and not only doesn't play the character as he's supposed to be, but portrays him as a complete butthole who constantly brushes people off when JP Nanba is nothing like that. I genuinely can't believe this guy voiced Yagami because he's terrible as Nanba, and even as Yagami he's also unfitting for the character completely even though his performance there is better. Watching the LJ ending with the EN dub is honestly one of the worst things I've experienced, no one fits outside of maybe Kaito, it's insane. I had to rewatch it in JP just to feel better.
Sawashiro, Zhao, and Han are by far the best parts of the EN dub, and even then Han is just an okay fit for the character at best. for my takes on Ichiban, Nanba, Sawashiro, Zhao, and Han.
>Adachi is fine but he sounds younger than he is sometimes, and his karaoke is one of the worst in the entire series because of them using a joke take.
>Saeko is generic female #1545123.
>Seong-Hui constantly sounds like she's on Xanax.
>Arakawa is pretty much the only one who can pronounce the names correctly but Sulu switches between actually voice acting to reading off a script mid-sentence sometimes and it's super jarring.
>WEI SHEN MOTHERFRICKER WHO ARE YOU is fine as Masato but it's really hard to separate him from his performance as Wei Shen since it's 1:1 the same voice and his performance really doesn't distinguish itself from that until like midgame when you start seeing him get more conniving.
>Ishioda is the only Omi Alliance member who has a deep New Yorker accent which sticks out like a sore thumb when everyone isn't despite everyone supposedly being from Kansai so there's no consistency.
>Kiryu is fine and he's better than his performance was in 1 by a mile.
>Majima is a mix of "fine I guess" and "Generic Anime villain".
>Saejima is perfectly fine from the few lines he has and fits him as a character.
>Daigo is perfectly fine.
>Watase fits his character but he sounds a bit too wimpy.
>Hoshino would have been fine if they didn't literally cut to a scene with Ogikubo or another Daidoji guy and he literally has the exact same voice, performance, and inflections as Hoshino.
It's all over the place.
Yuki and Koyuki are OCs. The Platinum girls are all either gravure starlets or JAVs and they use the same name as their "acting" names.
>CohhCarnage
Who? I had to look into this to check
>man silently plays videogames for money
Ah one of those types. Well it doesn't matter his dick riders aren't buying the game.
>thought ichiban's VA in 7 was good
>play the 8 demo with the dub to hear yong
>jesus he sounds fricking terrible
>ichiban shows up
>laugh because of the difference between them
>pause then game after laughing to rub rub face and sigh
He's doing this thing where he exhales very sharply after every sentence, it's very strange.
Yeah, it happens to me too when I try to do a deep voice. Dude's voice just doesn't work for this.
I really hate that I'm going to have to put up with godawful YongYea performance just to enjoy Kaiji Tang as Ichiban.
Based. That guy should beat the ever living shit put of Yong for tarnishing his Ichiban's performance with his israelitetoob non acting skills.
did they actually pitch his voice down in edit?
feel like it sounds a bit lower.
jesus christ i seriously hate dubs
I'd like it if just once they tried to make them sound like normal people.
Not over-dramatised caricatures emulating Japanese intonations, just straight regular americans, like they're acting for a TV show.
My only solace is that Yong is a fricking moron who is certainly quadrupled vaxxed
Sounds really good! I was waiting for this. I may just play dub now with my bro killing this role. Eyepatch guy seems a little off.
found the triple vaxxed homosexual
Not even once and it's alright to have different opinions. We can all get along. If you want to stick to reading and not understanding, that's fine. This is a video game and dub should be standard, imo, especially if it's a western release period.
Obsessed, nobody plays Ya-koozer with eng dubs anyways
it would be 10 bux cheaper with jp+subs so my money is directly enabling this nepotism shite
You are so full of shit.
GREED is making your games cost more.
Is English his second language? Seems like he's trying really hard to not sound like a beaner.
yeah he's venezuelan, mutt spanish is his first language. he migrated to america when he was 14.
This is probably super autistic but holy frick, the audio mixing on the dub sounds SO fricking bad. It's like they just slapped all the voice tracks on top of everything else, panned to center, hit normalize, and called it a day. There's no sense of space at all
the frick were they supposed to do?
add reverb on the voice tracks?
Hire somebody else.
Yes, you add reverb depending on the vocal depending on the place he's in, it makes the vocal blend in better with the mix, the voice sounds way to raw and clean
Good grief, I'm not saying they need to make it sound like a fricking concert hall or parking garage. But if Kiryu moves away from the camera his voice should not be the same volume / occupy the same physical space as Ichi and the new guy. There's no effort to blend anything in the mix.
*Recording Booth*
>Yong: I got it from here.
>Staff: Okay just shut the lights when you're done.
pretty eh
why didnt they hire a real voice actor
young gay isnt even a big eceleb that could boost sales eithera4wydw
Trying too hard
Why the frick would they hire a literal ESL to act in English?
I'm glad you're enjoying your buzzwords zoom zoom gay.
You should swallow a couple AAA batteries and down them with bleach for your next quirky act. FR Fr
It sounds so forced, he just doesn't have the timbre for it
>HUHNNNN IF THERES ONE THING
>KIRYU CHAN SENPAI!!! WHATS THE MATTER
>HUHHNNNN IS SOMETHING THE MATTER KIRYU
I fricking hate all english VAs for these fricking asiatic games who think you need to do a breathy exhale into every single line. Fricking stop!
> who think you need to do a breathy exhale into every single line
but that's how they do it in japanese the whole time......
asiatics speak from the diaphragm so its guttural for real. These english VAs just sound like theyre trying to be Kaiba after getting a rough handjob from a gal with dry hands
>Yong gets bullied hard enough that he kills himself
>Police find the body after a smell complaint
>A note was left
>Yong out
When I first started watching his videos I imagined him killing himself with the sign-off "I'll see you guys in the next life. Yong out" BANG
Can someone tell me how Yakuza is constantly getting games? It's like, one releases and you're already supposed to be excited for a new one that's coming out in just a few months.
They're cheap to make and filled to the brim with product placement, also japanese fujos love the men.
They re-use assets and minigames and game mechanics etc. over and over so it's faster to produce. The new main game has a new setting so it took longer to make.
this was a bit of a newer thing as they had the spinoff game (man who erased his own name) and Y8 around the sameish time, Im assuming one finished earlier than expected and one finished later than expected and nusega just needs to keep the slop coming. The truth is Yakuza died with 0, 7 onward is shit, a complete tonal mess and that homosexual yakuza larper who works for the chinsects was the only guy with any real creatove vision
Because spinoffs. The main numbered game is actually years apart, usually 2 to 4 years.
this clip just reminds me that everything would be okay if Haruka wasn't a moron
also why the frick are all the tojo guys homeless now
Man why the frick do Americans always pronounce the Japanese names in such obnoxious fricking ways?
I get it it's their accent or whatever, they say it as they would say something else in English but holy frick it make me cringe every single time I hear it.
this, youre speaking english drop the chans and shit and speak english
>lets go the bar and grab some brewskis KIIDIIRRUU CHON
sounds like some shit a weeaboo in middle school would say after watching a few too many eps of inuyasha
Because if you don't do that then the anti-localization weebs will get mad
In yakuza's case you have to do that because the story deals alot with japanese social hierarchy. How are you supposed to translate terms like aniki, ojiki, oyassan etc in english? At that point might as well leave the honorifics alone.
To be fair, even something basic like saying kiryu's name as kazuma kiryu is shit compared to kiryu kazuma
>the fricking sound he makes when he's supposed to be coughing up blood
imagine the sounds he'll make when he has to piss his eyes out in gaiden
maybe its because I dont speak japanese but hearing every character on screen dishing out at least one fricking line makes me sick. SHUT THE FUUUUUCK UUUUUP YOU DONT ALL NEED TO TALK
IT'S JUDGMENT TIME
>English dub still uses honorifics
Wasn't the entire point to give a localised dub for the gays who don't give a frick about accuracy and have the sub track remain accurate?
It's even more funny when every male dub actor in this tries to put this "grumpy badass main character" voice. Like you could barely tell a difference between Kiryu and Majima's dub voice here, but then Daigo opens his fricking mouth and he suddenly sounds like Saejima despite both Majima and Daigo having softer/thinner voice in jap original.
K7 had a similar problem, morons will say K7s dub is good but every male character sounds like they were grabbed from the Troy Baker Bargain Bin
WHY THE FRICK DOES HE KEEP ON EXHALING AFTER EVERY SINGLE LINE LIKE HE'S SOME OBESE PIECE OF RUNNING OUT OF BREATH????
this is such a robotic performance, he's enunciating everything too hard and trying to sound like le gruff badass
I expected way worse from all the b***hing about it. Maybe its just because I grew up with 90's early 2000's dubbing where this would be considered above average but he is not that bad just seems horribly miscast and poorly directed.
the Goldpill is that Ichis VA sucks AS BAD as yong does and the english dub across the board fricking sucks
Probably I have never heard the English dub till now
Ichiban's VA is completely fine, I have no idea what you're on about. His karaoke song is a bit muted compared to his main story stuff, but he works just fine as an EN Ichiban and does the final scene of 7 fine.
Nanba is the one who sucks absolute ass and not only doesn't play the character as he's supposed to be, but portrays him as a complete butthole who constantly brushes people off when JP Nanba is nothing like that. I genuinely can't believe this guy voiced Yagami because he's terrible as Nanba, and even as Yagami he's also unfitting for the character completely even though his performance there is better. Watching the LJ ending with the EN dub is honestly one of the worst things I've experienced, no one fits outside of maybe Kaito, it's insane. I had to rewatch it in JP just to feel better.
Sawashiro, Zhao, and Han are by far the best parts of the EN dub, and even then Han is just an okay fit for the character at best.
I can probably tolerate it if this is an anime game, but kiryu has kuroda's face so it's harder to believe.
>people think Number One's English voice actor is bad
ichis VA is about as good as the guy who voices Bookee Dewitt in bioshag trinity
>they killed Wei Shen in the same game he was introduced
he just changed his name again and started from the bottom. That was a laughably tiny pp knoife
>that nasal voice
it feels like a parody dub from the 00s on youtube
Will Yun Lee would have been a better Kiryu.
Damn, I forgot about this game. I should get to replaying it some day.
I replayed it after and man nostalgia blinded me. the story is messy and the characters are super basic at times
only asian voice actors should play asian characters
>only japanese voice actors should play japanese characters
ftfy
why does Kuroda dress like he's euphoric
I remember someone saying Sega was very unhappy with him attending way too many handshake events with fujos on his own.
>M'lady
Euphoric? More like a pimp.
>Majima, Saejima, Daigo back AGAIN
What the FRICK are they doing with this franchise?
well, yakuza died out irl too, now it's just shenanigans
to be fair they did them dirty by brushing them off as irrelevant in supposed "send-off" of Kiryu in Yakuza 6, despite them being an important character for Kiryu until 5.
If this really was to be Kiryu's send off for real, I hope they give them a moment to shine, and actually do something for Kiryu instead of being a background character.
>If this really was to be Kiryu's send off for real
He's coming back in 8 though. They'll never let him rest.
that's what he means, but lots of people are expecting this to be the send off.
I disagree. Kiryu does have one last game though. Maybe they really do ice him or retire him in Y8 but I just don't see it because Gaiden was supposed to be a DLC. Why tf would you make that a DLC if you're gonna ice Kiryu? That part makes no sense to me because it kinda feels like a setup to resolve the orphanage plot line and Haruka/Haruto stuff they seemingly dropped in Y6.
That's what I meant, I'm pretty sure they are redoing the send-off in 8 because everybody hated Y6 in Japan
what are the tojo chuds doing in antartica?
Frick you morons, at least I AM Kiryu.
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG OUT
JUDGMEEEEEEEEENT
le deep anime badboy voice
also it sounds so fricking bad how the keep the honorifics in the dub. what a disaster
Cute and Wholesome Kiryu-Haruka Nakadashi SEX!
nandayo
sounds like he's trying too hard to sound gruff
kinda like David Hayter trying to voice Big Boss in PW but all that comes out is the fricked up Old Snake voice from MGS4 that makes him sound 40 years older than he actually is
>playing the dub
>ever
most yakuzas want me to play them twice, might as well make the ex-hard playthrough even harder
in the end it comes down to this.
I get to make fun of the shit Eng VA without it affecting me because I play the game in the correct way.
You can’t argue or reason with dubgays, they’ll give you any old excuse; “nips all sound the same”/“imagine playing [insert classic Japanese franchise here] in Japanese”/“this dub is actually good though, way better than the sub” etc. In the end they just don’t want to play Japanese games with Japanese audio because it bothers them for some reason, which I’d probably have less issue with if they were honest and didn’t feel the need to cope with that bullshit out of some inane insecurity about it
When's the english dub of Gaiden supposed to drop, anyway?
I would say, logically, they would drop it at the Geoff Awards and then do a marketing push for Y8, maybe even announce spinoffs or remasters, etc. But this is Sega. They will spend stupid money on the worst shit and just not even advertise it outside of twitter.
Gonna be honest, I'm a little Yonged out.
the real tragedy (comedy) of this whole shitshow is that by casting Yong it just shined a massive spotlight on something that is usually supposed to go unnoticed. A lot of people can sit back and enjoy the Y7 dub, even though to me it sounds awful and full of anime growling voices. But when you ask people to really listen to something, damn it is gonna hit home and not just for Yong. For the entire cast. I wouldn't be surprised if people switched to the jap voices over this whole thing even though they prefer dubs.
>tfw the last we see of akiyama is him jobbing to everything under the sun in 6
>then he appears for a whopping half second in the studio logo splash in gaiden
Bro Shinada DOESN'T EVEN APPEAR
>They keep reusing his model even though he literally never shows up
What did akiyama do to earn this disrespect
Busy voice actor
Also he's showing up in 8
He is?
Yeah, poundmate
Got leaked
>poundmate
Dammit
What do you mean got leaked, he's literally in the trailer
Oh damn
Idk how tf i missed him, Date and Kaoru
They want to keep using Akiyama but his voice actor is one of the most prolific you can get, his schedule is far busier then everyone elses.
Akiyama was actually planned to have the role of Nick Ogata in Y7
Shame it got cut due to the scheduling conflic
>Tanimura was great
>Never shows up again because of face scan actor drama
He actually appears for a half second before it becomes 6/7 stuff for the rest of the intro
Pretty sure they weren't planning on bringing back Tanimura either way as most of actor cameo of Yakuza games are one-offs
Also the reason why they couldn't use his face in reboot was not because of the drama, but because he retired
Well, they already recasted the guy. The only reason why he didn't come back is simply because rgg didn't want him to.
>The only reason why he didn't come back is simply because rgg didn't want him to.
I thought it was because he retired. The claims against him were proven false, but he ended up bowing out of the entire industry probably because he realized how shitty it was when everyone literally turned on him in a short span of time.
stop with this fricking fake shit, you don't even know what the frick you're talking about, you're just spouting shit that redditors because they go "OOOOOHHHHH I'M THEORIZIIIIING"
the drug allegations didn't happen until 2016, before the japanese release of Yakuza 6
Tanimura had already been mentioned in Yakuza 5
he was also not featured in either Ishin or Y0, and there's also no evidence of him getting cut from Y6, so RGG NEVER had the intention of bringing his ass back
fricking morons believing everything they read on the internet
to add on top of that, Tanimura has appeared multiple times on their gacha game with the new face from 4 remastered
What the frick. How do you go from having actors like Mark Hamil doing the English dub to this. The celebrity cameos in the Japanese dub at least gravitated towards celebrities who could act competently.
Fake deep voice
>Hey guys Kazuma Kiryu here also known as Dragon of Dojima. If you want to be strong like me, drink onions!
>meanwhile someone put japanese kiryu's voice through AI and generated an english version which sounds 100% better than what we got:
with a few tweaks it would be perfect. once the game is out im 99% sure someone will make a mod using AI generated kiryu.
this is why they fear the ai, it's better
this, no wonder voice actors are shitting themselves over AI
honestly pretty good except for the slip into a british accent
yong my brother don't look
Is his name "kiryu" because that's how Japanese people would pronounce "kill you"?
no, kiryu is just a japanese name.
It has Ryu in it which is dragon in Japanese
I don't understand how a casting director pushed this guy through. I know why he got cast but it's just a huge mess
Maybe he's secretly a subgay and it's an act of sabotage.
he sucked and fricked his way into that role
yooo kaito files is kinda shit..
I'm glad someone else thinks so. It was incredibly boring and disappointing
Real talk though.
If his voice is pitched lower it would be more tolerable
HES SO OUT OF BREATH FROM THE LUNG CANCER BRAVO
>Has to let out air/slight sigh at the end of every sentence
why? Is he disabled in some sort?
Kiryu has cancer
Yes. He heard the term 'pause for dramatic effect' once in his life and had to breathe all over the mic to prove that he's a real VA who earned Kiryu.
How 5 should have ended and 6 should have begun.
Kiryu will never do that. From which part of Wyoming are you moroning today?
This is really bad. I never listen to dubs tho but holy shit yong really fricked it up. He should be removed from the game before they patch the dub in.
> Judgment 3
> Amasawa and her class are going on a trip to Hawaii
>.... And Yagami must come too, why? Uhhhh BECAUSE HE JUST HAVE TO OKAY!?
>due to unexplained reasons, Yagami has to repeat highschool if he wants to keep his agency
Yagami is going to be in his 40s by the next entry. It'll be a Yagami goes to Hawaii due to his midlife crisis.
They will have graduated by the time Judge 3
Jeez. I hoped we wouldn't have to do this but we're going to have to ban all discussion regarding Yong Yea. I'm embarrassed by the level of toxicity on this board lately.
>Defending or praising him is also banned
Kek, at least he's being fair.
>do something more useful
You mod a fricking reddit page for a videogame series. Zero self awareness. All you have to say is discussion of youtube man is banned.
Do people actually think we're getting a judgment 3? lol
Yagami got blown by Johnny. Japan has pulled all of his Burger King ads. It's over unironically
What, so everyone repped by Johnny's is fricked now, or was he involved in some deeper shit?
He is not in deeper shit but everyone who worked under or used to work in Johnnys is fricked now because no one wants to associate with the old diddler's work
Even if SEGA was fine with that Kimura is probably not going to accept it anyways as his main work is appearing on TV, and now that job is gone he's probably going to retire. I doubt he is going to work by any means considering his age and the trillions in his bank account.
Besides, RGG already had enough of contract hell with Kimura even before the incident, now that everything got more hectic and unstable due to the exposè, I'm pretty sure they want to stray away from it.
What happened?
Yes? They'll just memory hole Yagami and continue with Sugiura/Kaito as protagonists
>I have cancer
>is that why your voice sounds so shit?
Is cancer turning his hair white? Why does he have black hair in some scenes but white in others?
He gets progressively worse throughout the game
I wonder if it'll affect his stats?
He sounds a lot better here, I think, than in the Gaiden stuff
Like, I probably wouldn’t guess it’s Yong from just this trailer
>YONG OU-ACK!
A fricking hobo could do a better job
Absolute Shame on everybody wanting Yong to Anne a hero. Have you no empathy? Is as if hypocrisy wasn't enough, you have to wish the worst for him?
Truly shameful.
This is the first time I'm hearing him and honestly, I think he's fine. Japs are all about melodramatic garbage, they're incapable of nuance.
bro needs to lay off the ambien
I actually liked the Like a Dragon 7: Like a Dragon dub but this Yongyea guy and his painfully awkward "trying to be a tough guy" 'deep' voice will singlehandedly make me go back to Jap audio.
are these porn stars?
I recognised aika as one of the girls from another place, but who are the rest? Is there a list of the girls
Yuki and Koyuki (left and right) is the game's original character and they're not face scans