Literally the reason you can’t even criticize anything about Xeno 2/3 without someone throwing a tantrum. Buttbuddies on his discord are the ones who spent months making all discussion about how much they self-insert as Rex and goon to the haremshit. Should’ve killed himself instead of being ‘saved by XC2’.
What I wanna know is how anyone would know that people came specifically from Enel's discord to post about their love for Rex and harems on Ganker specifically to piss people off, unless they went there themselves and saw direct proof. There is also the other option, that anyone blaming Enel's discord is completely schizo, but who cares really.
Enel is the mentally ill shitposter's boogeyman, he hates Enel because Enel loves Xenoblade 2, and in his mind that must mean that every pro XC2 post is a raid from his discord.
What I wanna know is how anyone would know that people came specifically from Enel's discord to post about their love for Rex and harems on Ganker specifically to piss people off, unless they went there themselves and saw direct proof. There is also the other option, that anyone blaming Enel's discord is completely schizo, but who cares really.
>There is also the other option, that anyone blaming Enel's discord is completely schizo
It's just one person actually, and yes you're correct
I'm not the resident schizo, I just don't like Enel because he uses cheat engine max out his xp/crafting materials/money so he he can wantonly pump out build videos, many of which are inspired by forum posts he doesn't properly credit. Essentially he's just some dweeb who desperately wants to fashion himself as Xenoblade's equivalent to what VaatiVidya is to anything related to FromSoftware. Absolutely cringe individual in a vacuum, but he's made worse by the community he built around himself on Discord. It's fine to watch his content, but don't feed into his ego or that of his gay little fanclub by citing him.
>X is dead, takahashi repurposed its ideas in 3 and whatever else comes after
Probably, but I wouldn't put it past them to make a 'Xenoblade X Definitive Edition' as a easy launch title for a new system that just fixes up some of its problems with things they learned in 2 and 3, followed soon after by an expansion continuation.
>within a year or soon after the launch year of the switch 2
Assuming they're not rushing like with XB2, expect XB4 to have a similar dev cycle to XB3: about 3.5 years from the launch of the DLC.
Also, XBX DE would most certainly be put on a B-Team who are tasked with familiarizing themselves with how to optimize for new hardware and as a starter-project for new hires (Takahashi likes to do that) so that they get the most out of the new chipset with the next game.
While XBX DE is being made, I wouldn't be surprised if XB4 was in pre-pro with them figuring out a setting, story and cast + character designs
It's a little different when it's part of the appeal vs an unfortunate outcome of players being too stupid to do anything without 1000 skinnerbox UI elements driving them through games that are also trying to ape cinema and realism in very stupid and unimportant ways.
It's fricking challenge mode. The mode where you fight waves of enemies and have to clear them in a time attack scenario. It's meant to be more sensory overlord.
>the end of the klaus experiment arc
This makes very little sense to me as everything that happened to this point is becauase of said experiment.
Which means that either a new universe is birthed from a new WOAW plot twist (boring rehash) or something like that, or we start a new story that has nothing to do without the previous xenoblade setting, which means...it's xenoblade in name only.
It would mean its a completely different game or a prequel to the klaus experiment arc because everything that happened after it SHOULD happen in the same universe therefore it would be part of the klaus experiment arc anyway.
I think it just means that with Xenoblade 3, they've resolved all the consequences of the Klaus experiment, so a sequel can take place in the fused world but the story wouldn't be about dealing with the repercussion of the experiment anymore.
>event happened in the past >now everything in the present and future has to be considered the same story arc because something happened in the past
autism
Why are these classifications so broad? Yeah, Nintendo does sell other types of merchandise that could fit under paper and leather, but where the frick does precious metals come in? Is there Nintendo israeliteelry now?
because governments must catalogue everything for the purposes of taxing and regulating you
I'm cool with it for corpos because they should fricking die but the US tax code is purposefully complicates so they can come up with endless ways to audit and tax you
Most likely drop the number in the title and have a fresh new look and combat along with the Switch 2. The series didn't grow with 3 but its fans are notable enough for it not to shevled, and Nintendo has enough cash to keep Monolith and Takashi creatively satisfied since they do the heavy lifting in their AAA games.
>New independent Xenoblade continuity
Get ready for Xenoblade Y, a gacha spinoff that's acts as a gachafied culminate of all mainline Xenoblade gameplays.
Yep I was about to post this myself. NOA's DEI department will be sent to ~~*regulate*~~ the game and have it send to 20 Western consultancy groups and it'll be another bland generic inoffensive JRPG that Resetera still won't buy because some character was still 0.000001% above their attractiveness meter.
Japs are such big consoomers now to it's insane.
Not even a few decades ago they'd be sperging endlessly if their companies were prioritizing foreigners, "le global audience", over designing their shit for Jap audiences. Now they just eat up shit like this and all the androgyny in nuPokemon and other notable series from the country one after the other unquestioningly.
>GRRR I don't like what he said so I'll just shitpost with a (You)
Whatever you say homo, absolutely riveting discussion there and totally not asspain.
samegayging what lol what other posts do you think I made you degenerate schizo
3 months ago
Anonymous
Y u mad >absolutely riveting discussion
you first
>playing dumb
Not a good look. >y-you first
I actually contributed to the thread, you didn't like what I said though so you just quoted and posted instead.
Guess describing the homosexualy shit they did for XB3 got on your nerves or something.
3 months ago
Anonymous
But it is you who is dumb >I actually contributed to the thread
Saying nothing with a lot of words is still saying nothing
3 months ago
Anonymous
Aww babby's first inspect element edit, how quaint. >le ebin gaslight
That's cool and all but the fact remains they did that shit with XB3. Conveniently ignoring the devs coming out and admitting they toned shit down for western audiences makes you look even more b***hmade.
Don't worry, I'm sure XB4 will make sure all the women are covered up again and that they explicitly make sure you know they are 18 or older as to not upset xitter trannies.
3 months ago
Anonymous
try less obvious next time, otherwise kys moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How about you try English next time, third worlder.
Don't worry, I know when XB4 releases some swimsuit DLC after being a censoredslop mess on release again you homosexuals will pull the same shit you did for 3 and be like >HURRR UHHH WHAT CENSORSHIP BRO I CAN PAY 40 DOLLARS TO SEE A DIGITAL BIKINI, B-BASED DEVS!!!!11!!
3 months ago
Anonymous
[...] >playing dumb
Not a good look. >y-you first
I actually contributed to the thread, you didn't like what I said though so you just quoted and posted instead.
Guess describing the homosexualy shit they did for XB3 got on your nerves or something.
actual newbie doesnt know how Ganker works lol
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you can’t prove to me you are two different people calling me a moron
The average tard
>mad because his samegayging was caught out
KWAB >still ignoring what I said earlier about the devs explicitly saying they did this shit since it's not convenient for his agenda here
Expected, but still pathetic.
[...]
[...]
Based. Reminder that Kim Belair personally worked on XC3
This is the kind of cancer killing the series too, troony pandering nonsense. Grim.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>KWAB
kill white anglo bastards? always knew you were a leftie
3 months ago
Anonymous
damn that acronym really makes you troony tourists seethe lmfao
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you can’t prove to me you are two different people calling me a moron
The average tard
Yep I was about to post this myself. NOA's DEI department will be sent to ~~*regulate*~~ the game and have it send to 20 Western consultancy groups and it'll be another bland generic inoffensive JRPG that Resetera still won't buy because some character was still 0.000001% above their attractiveness meter.
Yep I was about to post this myself. NOA's DEI department will be sent to ~~*regulate*~~ the game and have it send to 20 Western consultancy groups and it'll be another bland generic inoffensive JRPG that Resetera still won't buy because some character was still 0.000001% above their attractiveness meter.
Cry more pussy you, know it's true.
[...]
Japs are such big consoomers now to it's insane.
Not even a few decades ago they'd be sperging endlessly if their companies were prioritizing foreigners, "le global audience", over designing their shit for Jap audiences. Now they just eat up shit like this and all the androgyny in nuPokemon and other notable series from the country one after the other unquestioningly.
Based. Reminder that Kim Belair personally worked on XC3
[...] >mad because his samegayging was caught out
KWAB >still ignoring what I said earlier about the devs explicitly saying they did this shit since it's not convenient for his agenda here
Expected, but still pathetic.
[...]
This is the kind of cancer killing the series too, troony pandering nonsense. Grim.
>This is the kind of cancer killing the series too, troony pandering nonsense. Grim.
Also reminder that there is an antagonist group in the game l i t e r a l l y called "the conservatives"
>antagonist group
What the frick are you talking about? They’re mentioned like two times in a side quest as a political faction within The City, no more no less. Any governing body will have a conservative body of constituents, that’s how demographics work.
This, it was just part of the politics in the city. there are npcs from both conservatives and hardliners. Funny thing to say they were the enemy when there is a mission where Gray kills a group of hardliners. At best the game was trying to say that both sides weren't thinking straight because of the whole mobius situation.
A is confirmed female by the artbook, and Juniper is obvious female as well. You should never trust wikis, as they are all under the complete control of libtards.
NTA but the art book omits any reference to Juniper’s gender. A is female yeah but it’s pretty obvious at this point that they’re keeping Juniper ambiguous with intent
>confirmed male character is romantically interested in juniper >IS THEY A BOY OR A GIRL?? ooooOOOoooo it is a mystery
who are they trying to fool
3 months ago
Anonymous
Xeno has always been a relatively progressive series in terms of social commentary. The first couple in the series is mixed-race for fricks sake.
I don’t really see how a male character falling for Juniper changes anything. There are plenty of gay characters in the franchise, even in blade (Sheba comes to mind), so the writers don’t seem to have any hangups about that subject. Having a non-binary character would be pretty in-line with the series’ ongoing philosophy of accepting differences. It’s less so a mystery and more of their attempt at representing a demographic for the sake of an already present dogma
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The first couple in the series is mixed-race for fricks sake
Shulk and Fiora?... I don't get it unless you are talking about xenogears or something that i didn't play.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I am referring to Xenogears, yes.
Fei is pretty expressly asian while Elly is white.
3 months ago
Anonymous
They are literally not human.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You’re dealing with Rides, a regular from Enel’s Discord. He’s a libtard and unironically Chinese and has never even set foot in America. He spouts the mixed race couple cope from xenogears all the time there. Like anyone, or Tanaka, or even takahashi himself care about the “progressive” shit when the game was made in the 90s. This is how delusional these people are.
Unfortunately this place isn’t for sound minded people, we’ve got an infection of twitter freaks and with the way Enel is encouraging these raids on Ganker on his discord (in where which he, a fricking school teacher openly admitted to fantasizing fricking his students on)
Just waiting for Anna (a she/her troony from Enel’s Discord) to show up too
3 months ago
Anonymous
the thing that makes it ridiculous is that the characters already refer to juniper using nongendered language before SHE ever reveals HER gender identity, and she's not androgynous at all, there's no reason to assume she's not a girl unless explicitly told, it's not a roc situation where you legitimately cannot tell
and as far as i can tell her gender identity is never once directly discussed like roc's is so its contribution to the series' progressive themes is superfluous at best and pandering at worst
3 months ago
Anonymous
Small as it may be I can’t really bring myself to be upset about it. I have a few friends who identified with Juniper because of it, and their presence does help to round out the game’s demographics. As far as I’m concerned, when you’re making a story about that subject matter, the more people you’re able to involve the better.
They are literally not human.
Yeah I understand that. I’m mostly speaking in reference to their design influences from earth races. Fei is directly based on a Chinese hero, and both hail from entirely different continents in-universe. At the absolute minimum they aren’t the same ethnicity, whatever you choose to define that as within the context of Gears
3 months ago
Anonymous
You’re saying this about Xenoblade Chronicles 3… a game about how having babies is awesome.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How does that contradict what I said? The game is a celebration of life and all walks of it
3 months ago
Anonymous
Also a game about how we should race mix everyone into one-homogenous mutt society divorced from our individual cultures. Stop pretending XC3 is 'le heckin' redpilled conservative' game.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Also a game about how we should race mix everyone into one-homogenous mutt society divorced from our individual cultures
???
3 months ago
Anonymous
The literal future of the world as shown in game is a society of humans that have mutted out all the traits of the other fantasy races. I don't see how people always fail to see this when they proudly proclaim XC3 is some 'marry and reproduce' conservative Japanese nationalism piece.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t think they were thinking about that bro…
At most, it’ll be something about inheriting powers
Do you know how your political beliefs are viewed in Asia, Japan, any other country?
back to Enel’s discord, rides.
3 months ago
Anonymous
are you just here because you got banned from said discord?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>is a society of humans that have mutted out all the traits of the other fantasy races
You mean the City? The point of the City is that they don't look like any of the races you have from Agnus or Kevesi to show how much of an insular society they are due to basically being a rogue nation. I don't think the devs gave that much thought to how much the original traits of the Kevesis and Agnians get passed down because they're pretty inconsistent on rules like saying Core Crystals take dominance (which would make you think you'd see them more) but not a single City resident has any. My guess is that they basically didn't think it through when they were designing the City Residents that their population would be formed from Agnians and Kevesi soldiers who were liberated, or that the kids of Kevesi and Agnians could have traits from both (since Agnians and Kevesi don't even retain all their traits from their original worlds).
I don't think that was a purposeful decision the same way you have reproduction be an explicit plot point and part of N's backstory. It's just a visual short-hand for 'these people are distinct from the populations of Agnus and Keves'
Didn't want to think about what a Machina Gormotti would look like and all that
3 months ago
Anonymous
NOOOOOOOO XENOBLADE A JAPANESE GAME MADE BY A JAPANESE MAN SUPPORTS RACEMIXING AND YOU’RE A BIGOT CHUD IM TELLING ENEL ABOUT THIS
3 months ago
Anonymous
Xenoblade 1 was already about racemixing and how it was better not to remain pure when it turned out that pure-blood High Entia are most at risk to turn into Telethia. The practice of taking homs consorts was literally done just to dilute the bloodline
I don't really know what to tell you, guy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
NOOOOOOOO XENOBLADE A JAPANESE GAME MADE BY A JAPANESE MAN SUPPORTS RACEMIXING AND YOU’RE A BIGOT CHUD IM TELLING ENEL ABOUT THIS
What is wrong with you people
3 months ago
Anonymous
This is such a fricking reach I can’t even start on my next reply. I swear you could find a reason why xenoblade 1 supports trannies and Black folk and play it off as normal
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's not a reach because it's literally an explicit plot point
I don't know about trannies or Black folk but xb1 is explicitly in favor of race-mixing with melia's heritage being a purposeful decision on the part of the high entian royalty to dilute their blood and reduce the odds of zanza taking control of them
they are race-mixing as a royal policy
3 months ago
Anonymous
It’s not the important bro. It was just a small plot point, it’s not related to political commentary in race mixing in any way at all
Now, back to Enel’s Discord
3 months ago
Anonymous
>it’s not related to political commentary in race mixing in any way at all
It's not politically intended like some of XB3's plot points but it's still political in that it does say something about the view of the creators. There's other series where the strength of a people comes from their purity, where the more pureblood a person of a race is, the stronger they are. XB1 not being a story like that does show something about the built-in assumptions its creators have about the world.
Also, I wouldn't say it's a small plot point given that it's what protects Melia from Zanza transforming her when he sends the signal out to Alcomoth to create more Telethia from the High Entia.
Are you autistic?
Are you perhaps a democrat?
Do you know autistic people have no “gray area” and can only do/view things based on the extreme?
It sounds to me like you’re drinking the leftist Kool-Aid way more than anyone else
I don't think it's a gray area given that it's an explicit detail about the High Entia and their relationship to Zanza that the story spells out as a way to also show why the practice of taking humans as concubine/consorts was started
It's not the whole point of the story obviously but it's hard to say XB1 favors any sort of genetic-purity position when it has that
3 months ago
Anonymous
>There's other series where the strength of a people comes from their purity >XB1 not being a story like that does show something about the built-in assumptions its creators have about the world.
These are pretty big reaches. You vastly overestimate the ability to ascertain a creators politics from story beats like that.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I mean I think you can make some broad stroke assumptions about what a writer either believes or doesn't believe based on their works. Tolkien probably wasn't consciously using the mongols and accounts of them as reference when describing orcs but their features as generally considered to be very consistent with the English descriptions of mongolians.
Same with how you can tell that JK Rowling wasn't a left-leaning advocate for LGBTQ when you read harry potter and then see how she had to retcon dumbledore into being a wienersucker.
My point is that it's unusual when just the impurity of the blood is a plot point and, specifically, a benefit to a character or people. Usually it's a situation where a character gets super-powers from one half of their family that is more powerful than the other genetically (Superman's kids, Bleach, DBZ). My point isn't that Takahashi is someone who actively dreams of the world's races mixing and being genetically homogenous and sees it as a good thing, but that he does see the intermingling of people to be advantageous over purity.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You really can't though because you dipping into subconscious shit like >Tolkien probably wasn't consciously using the mongols and accounts of them
And any assessments about subconscious inspirations are notoriously sketchy. >Same with how you can tell that JK Rowling wasn't a left-leaning advocate for LGBTQ
That's just a guess. That's not something you'd even bet money on. >My point is that it's unusual when just the impurity of the blood is a plot point and, specifically, a benefit to a character or people
Presuming that racial purity,impurity was even a flicker. Can you honestly not see how one could arrive at the telethia story beat while not caring about racial purity shit?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>And any assessments about subconscious inspirations are notoriously sketchy.
Sure, especially for dead authors. I'm just saying that it's not impossible to make educated guesses, like the Dead Marshes being at least partially inspired by Tolkien's experiences during WW1
People write what they know, no? >That's just a guess. That's not something you'd even bet money on.
Fair enough. Without twitter or social media, it's not like people have venues to just make a 3AM comment on some issue that they're thinking about. But you wrap it up with the names for any non-English and non-white characters being basically stereotype names (Cho Chang, Seamus Finnigan, Kingsley Shacklebolt) and the reality is she's probably just a normal English woman with political sensibilities in the national median for the 90s or so. My point, again, is that you can parse something about someone's world view based on the things they choose to present as banal or typical in their stories, and specifically that she felt the desire to change things after the fact for Dumbledore when pressed on it. >Can you honestly not see how one could arrive at the telethia story beat while not caring about racial purity shit?
I can see the direct path of the Telethia storyline being that anyone with Entia blood can be turned into a Telethia, and Melia resists with willpower. That's the more 'typical' version of this storyline that I'd intuit if you gave me the basic details before telling me the reason for Melia's hybrid heritage.
Like, it's a pretty unusual detail to include. My point isn't that Takahashi was consciously thinking about purity or impurity in general or societal terms, but that he even conceived of a plotline where impurity could be a benefit in a cultural context that tends to regard homogeneity (both genetically and culturally) as a preference over heterogeneity is unusual further.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Did someone on your discord say this? This reads like it’s echoed
3 months ago
Anonymous
Are you autistic?
Are you perhaps a democrat?
Do you know autistic people have no “gray area” and can only do/view things based on the extreme?
It sounds to me like you’re drinking the leftist Kool-Aid way more than anyone else
3 months ago
Anonymous
no the point is that the citizens are the future of the world. they're a reformed humanity only possible after generations of breeding between the people of both worlds. the dominant traits from the various races are there to imply that many generations have passed between matthew's time and ghondor's. dominant traits can be bred out given enough generations.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>when they were designing the City Residents that their population would be formed from Agnians and Kevesi soldiers who were liberated,
This is blatantly wrong because FR does have City people with traits from other races, like Na'el and Mickey
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes but my point is that I wager they designed the city folk without a ton of consideration for what the population of the Founders time would be. We know they had considered having Gormotti and even Entia founders but I don't think they really put two and two together. The first we get of them talking about how Kevesi or Agnian traits get passed down is with Rex saying that Core Crystals get dominance
no the point is that the citizens are the future of the world. they're a reformed humanity only possible after generations of breeding between the people of both worlds. the dominant traits from the various races are there to imply that many generations have passed between matthew's time and ghondor's. dominant traits can be bred out given enough generations.
I thought dominant traits only get bred out of if they're either really rare among a populous or disadvantageous to a given environment?
3 months ago
Anonymous
No. They can get bred out by luck of the draw just like recessive traits.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>literally everything that isn't just normal human will get bred out of the society of disparate fantasy races that even includes things like sentient beasts completely through chance
All the more reason to toss 3's story like the half-assed garbage it is.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Well the second City has basically been an insular society for the most part, no? They lack any way to free soldiers anymore without anyone around who can destroy flameclocks.
What makes me curious is how many genes affect things like Machina or Gormotti biology. At least in the case of Matthew and NA'el, it seems to be things that Ghondor didn't inherit at all but passed to Na'el down two generations but skipped Matthew.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Well the second City has basically been an insular society for the most part, no?
Yes, but Takahashi also recently insists that all these same people will come to exist in the actual joined world under completely different non-isolated circumstances. Which is also it's own fricking can of worms regarding determinism in a series that also preaches being able to carve out your own future against fate.
Frick, man. I just hate so goddamn much about 3's story.
3 months ago
Anonymous
So actually I was thinking about the raped women example for why a city kid wouldn't be reborn. But what's stopping the rapist from deciding to rape again. And by rape again I mean rape the same person again.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Or what if the rapee in Aionios decides this time they will get the drop rapists and rapes the rapists. Think about all the death note style mind-games as people who interacted in Aionios try to discern how everyone is using their final incarnations.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Which is also it's own fricking can of worms regarding determinism in a series that also preaches being able to carve out your own future against fate.
Xenoblade (and the larger Xeno series at large) is pretty clear on the topic of determinism: it's not deterministic as much as people's wills are strong enough to cause certain outcomes to happen (if at least in the realm of possibility). If you put Noah and Mio next to each other, they're going to want to be together in 99% of situations.
Xenoblade isn't deterministic in the sense that there's an external flow or force or will that pushes events to happen. All the deterministic events that happen are a result of people's personalities trending towards certain outcomes in the majority of circumstances as a result of how they process experiences. It's why Joran is a loser in most worlds and never becomes a super-soldier: he's just not that kind of person to take to war and combat like other people.
Now, whether Takahashi thinks that Origin or the Conduit can perform a Phenomena Phase Shift to make those people exist, it's unknown
3 months ago
Anonymous
The game itself presents scenarios where certain people would've absolutely NOT get together under different circumstances. To later go on the record and say that everyone there WILL still exist is absolutely determinism. It's ill-thought out.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You''re misunderstanding the states the worlds are end post XC3 world reboot and fusion. Things didn't reset, Aionios still happened, and people still have memories of the Aionios happening. In other worlds the different circumstances point is moot because they already met under the previous circumstances and still have memories of those meetings.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>everyone just has thousands of years of misery memories >and they'll all certainly choose the exact same path in life despite all reverting to a child or non-existence and now living in a completely new world under new circumstances
It's stupid. You're fricking stupid for thinking it just works.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Aionios wasn't just misery. I mean come on you played the game you know that the soldiers weren't all depressed sacks of shit. And the soldiers had memories of their past lives too so in spite of the 1000+ years of war they managed pretty well.
Secondly they obviously don't need to make the exact same choices. People like Dirk or Joran or Shania will have the chance to do things better. Potentially. That's the idea behind the ending behing the "turning around going back looking for a new way forward" Yadda yadda keep walking that path. They'll take their prior experiences and use them to create an ideal scenario.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I'd even go as far as to argue that half the point of the game is discovering the ability to find joy beyond the militaristic life that defines the world of an Agnian or Kevesi Soldier from the moment of their creation, as well as the modern culture of the City. >They'll take their prior experiences and use them to create an ideal scenario.
Exactly. The basic gist is that everyone took a risk by allowing Origin to reboot the world states, but the story is clearly saying that taking that risk is worthwhile because it gives you the option to strive towards a more ideal world. XB3 is a pretty uniformly happy ending.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You stupid Black person, there are people who wouldn't have even gotten together if things that had happened in Aionios hadn't put them in that situation. Do you really think every single fricking person is just going to get together with the exact same person because of vague memories? Do you think there's absolutely NO ONE who had a more ideal partner under better circumstances? Do you think there's absolutely NO ONE who will discover a better partner in the real world? Do you think there's absolutely NO ONE who will have issues even being born in the same generation as who they wound up with in Aionios? The idea doesn't fricking work.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You stupid Black person, there are people who wouldn't have even gotten together if things that had happened in Aionios
This is a moot point. Those things still happened. The worlds rebooting didn't erase Aionios nor the time or experiences spent there. >NO ONE who had a more ideal partner under better circumstances? Do you think there's absolutely NO ONE who will discover a better partner in the real world?
So the counter argument is that what makes a partnership or relationship ideal is the time and effort the participants put into it. Not the circumstances. With memories people have the capacity to try again and turn otherwise unideal relationships into ideal ones. And arguably what you're stating is closer to determinism because it's basically asserting that the new circumstances supersedes the choices people can make now based in their past experiences. And it worked for Noah and Mio, it can work for everyone else.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It literally will not. Butterfly effect, chaos theory, call it whatever the frick you want, it does not all play out the same way if you put one iota of thought into it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It literally will not. Butterfly effect, chaos theory, call it whatever the frick you want, it does not all play out the same way if you put one iota of thought into it.
Okay but that's not how characters in the Xenoblade world work. Like, the same individuals can will the same or similar outcomes to come about.
Noah and Mio literally persist through their homecomings due to (what we can only assume is) will power and their desire to be together
Cat pussy > butterfly effect
3 months ago
Anonymous
>literally just resorting to shitty memes because his story doesn’t work
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's not a meme, I'm telling you that willpower is a driving factor of life-outcomes in the worlds of Xenoblade and that it supercedes the causality of stochastic events that butterfly effects describe.
Or rather, it would be more appropriate to say that people's natures and dispositions are so intense in Xenoblade that their fates tend towards very similar outcomes if the surrounding situation allows for it in any shape or form.
You could describe it as a form of intrinsic determinism, the idea that the personalities people have and (especially with Aionios and it's cycle of rebirth) the experiences they encounter draw them to similar outcomes like a form of mathematical convergence as n goes to infinity
3 months ago
Anonymous
There are people with thousand year lifespans when not held to Aionios rules. To assert that everyone of those will WILL themselves into the same relationships that might not even be feasibly possibly is moronic beyond belief. XC3’s story is garbage, and the most you can muster is some Todd Howard “It Just Works” bullshit to explain it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>There are people with thousand year lifespans when not held to Aionios rules
So? > the most you can muster is some Todd Howard “It Just Works” bullshit to explain it.
That's how the Xeno series works, yes
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't understand, How do you go from >City people being reborn is determinism
to >People can't achieve a desired outcome by their own will. >People choices aren't significant enough to matter, so it has to be deterministic so that people choices can matter.
That works against itself.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>literally just seething because you're too moronic to understand a simple concept
lmao, xenogears would filter modern Ganker
3 months ago
Anonymous
it's not 1:1 real life obviously. it's supposed to be a bit miraculous.
>Well the second City has basically been an insular society for the most part, no?
Yes, but Takahashi also recently insists that all these same people will come to exist in the actual joined world under completely different non-isolated circumstances. Which is also it's own fricking can of worms regarding determinism in a series that also preaches being able to carve out your own future against fate.
Frick, man. I just hate so goddamn much about 3's story.
>regarding determinism in a series that also preaches being able to carve out your own future against fate.
oh you're that moron.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>oh you're that moron
Am I to presume you're one of the dipshit dumbfricks who thinks so long as you just doublethink and put feels before reals determinism and freewill can just coexist? Because that's fricking moronic. I've yet to see an answer as to why 3's determinism doesn't blatantly contradict the core themes of 1. Just dickriders homosexuals like you that cry about how questioning it means you don't 'get it'.
3's story was a cynically driven means to the Perfect Works end Takahashi wanted to have with very little regard for the standalone foundation he built it on.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Core crystals came from Morytha tech and were just used to replace human brain cells and blades have human DNA in them confirmed by that torna DLC. It really isn't that surprising that after many generations they all revert to being humans.
I want a Xenoblade game that heavily features space. Not just going to space once at the end of the game. Xenosaga 1 takes place entirely in space, that was cool.
It's unlikely to be xc4, it's too soon. Maybe it really is X2 and we will also have a X definitive edition? Wiiu's online is finally dead so it's a perfect time for this
Why are you lying homosexual? >According to a new Nintendo rumor, a forgotten Wii U exclusive game is being brought forward to modernity with a remake on Nintendo Switch 2, the rumored Switch successor supposedly releasing this year. The rumor in question comes the way of Zippo, a well known Nintendo insider who has both proven reputable in the past and been off the mark as well. That said, this rumor seems far too random to be pulled from thin air. According to the insider, a "full remake" is in the works for Xenoblade Chronicles X at Monolith Productions, the studio responsible for the series - January 2024
>We want to keep the numbering for the Xenoblade series going. So...The game before this one was Xenoblade X, and we want to take good care of that too. So we want to get Xenoblade 3 out, but also a 2 for cross (X). But if we keep doing numbered titles, it's gonna get stale - Takahashi (2018)
You are getting a remake of Xenoblade X, then a sequel. He flat out said it was Xenoblade 3 first and then a sequel to Xenoblade X
>wasting their time remaking the worst, most unfinished xenoblade game
They can't be this moronic. Oh wait, they are. Cool, next actual xenoblade in 6 years I guess.
There won't be another Zelda game for another decade
3 months ago
Anonymous
>took them six years to shit out a BOTW expansion pack sold as a full sequel >they're ditching BOTW's world for something new, meaning years of dev time designing a new shitty open world >no chance of smaller side games like we'd previous get as that shitty hack Aonuma wants every new game to be like BOTW now
Zelda is dead.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Zelda is getting too big to succeed, but that's most AAA games now....
3 months ago
Anonymous
Zelda has it's own team now, Xenoblade has it's own developers and the guys behind X are still designing Xeno
3 months ago
Anonymous
Isn't the guy behind X the same guy behind 3?
3 months ago
Anonymous
All Xenoblade games have the same director, Koh Kojima.
Except Future Connected and Future Redeemed. Those were made by the actual C team, and it's why they're not as good as Torna.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>dlc sold more in 3 days than the whole xenoblade series
So dead...
3 months ago
Anonymous
Zelda is significantly more popular as a franchise than Mario or Call of Duty at this point. TOTK sold over 20 million after a couple months despite being a piece of shit rehash of a already bad game.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This cope is ridiculous. BotW is not a bad game. In fact it is quite good, same with TotK. Its just not really a zelda game
3 months ago
Anonymous
Covid plus another year of delay for polish slowed it down. There was no rush to release the game because of how well Nintendo was doing in general
A Team is core Xenoblade team, while B team is TOTK Optimization support and XB1DE
C Team is their studios that help with general Nintendo technical art
>Zippo >Reliable >Monolith Productions
Lmao, it'll happen but stop posting shoddy ai generated articles
Does it take some controversial rumormonger to set of morons like you?
Anyways, one of Zippo's biggest critics (and an unironic simp to roastie leakers) turned around and vouched his Sonic Heroes rumor, after going over how he overreacted over Midori response to his information.
If that still happening, at least give this one a chance.
>You are getting a remake of Xenoblade X, then a sequel. He flat out said it was Xenoblade 3 first and then a sequel to Xenoblade X
Oh boy we're gonna get XBX with Body Type A/B and Treehouse censorship applied worldwide yipeeeeeeeeeeeee
The book that released last week did feature Takahashi saying "stay tuned, I can't say a lot of things because reasons" so this filing is not surprising
It's strange how he has it out for Xenoblade specifically so much harder than other nintendo franchises. there are zelda and mario threads up every now and then and i never see him there
He has it out against xbc2 specifically, he only turned against xbc3 when it was clear it won't "send xbc2 into irrelevance" like he desperately wanted but the complete opposite instead.
Because Xeno used to be a Sony associated IP, and now it 100% belongs to Nintendo. That's all there is to it. He made ANOTHER thread by the way, unsurprisingly it's a monster hunter one
Klaus experiment is over because the Xenoblade worlds fused back into one and returned to normal space, the world breaking in two and going into "pocket universes" was the result of the experiment and because now is back to normal "the experiment is over".
We have to hate it because it's "censored wokeslop", same with X. We can't actually enjoy or judge video games by any other merit, just by how much "censorship" they have. That is all that matters in video games.
Oh yes and we’ve known that Juniper is female forever. The coping that she’s meant to be androgynous is obviously a lie considering her personality and relationship with other characters.
Watch that scene where Kite meets her for the first time and try and tell she’s not a chick.
I kind of feel like I'd rather an X reboot over a remake. To many things need changing, its not like we'll get even half of the QoL Cemu mods that make X better.
PResuming we keep the same map, core gameplay and quests and characters, it would just be a remaster + QoL like DE
The most significant thing they could do would be to either adjust the models or adjust the lighting to make the models less sex-toyish
That's what I mean. I'd still love a HD version like DE but I still think X needs way more love and care to be truly good, at that point it'd almost be a whole new game though so I see they might not bother.
I'd be pretty happy with a graphics uplift and keeping everything else the same
Maybe add in singleplayer ways to obtain the reward ticket items even if they're making it have online components
That's what I mean. I'd still love a HD version like DE but I still think X needs way more love and care to be truly good, at that point it'd almost be a whole new game though so I see they might not bother.
I don't think it would be a whole new game. The assets for Skells, the world, the systems for combat and the writing are all done. It's really only the character models and Monolith Soft have already done that once before with XB1DE
This thread is pointless I'll say it like it is to make it short:
Woke and brown interracial= Not playing it
Return to Xeno 2 wholesome waifus and likeable characters with a good plot= Will play it
I'm not actually a fan of the series or any of its games. I'm a "fan" of 2 because it isn't censored and that fuels my alt-right /misc/ tendencies. In fact, I probably haven't even played any of the games. I'm just a homosexual moron who spams the threads all day on my autistic schizo crusade to fight back against the woke that supposedly invades my life and rapes me in my sleep.
I miss the days when Xenoblade Chronicles was the only game in the series and discussion of the game didn't always get instantly derailed by shitposters from Discord.
can't wait for the memes
It's clearly Xenoblade X2
Enel’s discord isn’t gonna be happy about this…
Abarax…
Tell me about Enel, why is he hated?
I used his videos when Xenoblade Chronicles 2 was still fresh and they were helpful.
Literally the reason you can’t even criticize anything about Xeno 2/3 without someone throwing a tantrum. Buttbuddies on his discord are the ones who spent months making all discussion about how much they self-insert as Rex and goon to the haremshit. Should’ve killed himself instead of being ‘saved by XC2’.
What I wanna know is how anyone would know that people came specifically from Enel's discord to post about their love for Rex and harems on Ganker specifically to piss people off, unless they went there themselves and saw direct proof. There is also the other option, that anyone blaming Enel's discord is completely schizo, but who cares really.
Enel is the mentally ill shitposter's boogeyman, he hates Enel because Enel loves Xenoblade 2, and in his mind that must mean that every pro XC2 post is a raid from his discord.
>There is also the other option, that anyone blaming Enel's discord is completely schizo
It's just one person actually, and yes you're correct
When Etika an hero'd, Enel filled the gaping hole with excrement.
I'm not the resident schizo, I just don't like Enel because he uses cheat engine max out his xp/crafting materials/money so he he can wantonly pump out build videos, many of which are inspired by forum posts he doesn't properly credit. Essentially he's just some dweeb who desperately wants to fashion himself as Xenoblade's equivalent to what VaatiVidya is to anything related to FromSoftware. Absolutely cringe individual in a vacuum, but he's made worse by the community he built around himself on Discord. It's fine to watch his content, but don't feed into his ego or that of his gay little fanclub by citing him.
X is shit and never coming back in any form.
The director said it was coming
Koh Kojima isn't the head director, the only thing the head has said about X is that it'd take too much money to put on switch (laughs)
I know the first part of the sentence is false, therefore the rest of it also is. Thanks for the confirmation.
It better be, Xenoblade games were at their best when story wasn't its main focus.
I can't believe there'll be a follow up when the ending already teased one and takahashi said there would be
X is dead, takahashi repurposed its ideas in 3 and whatever else comes after
>X is dead, takahashi repurposed its ideas in 3 and whatever else comes after
Probably, but I wouldn't put it past them to make a 'Xenoblade X Definitive Edition' as a easy launch title for a new system that just fixes up some of its problems with things they learned in 2 and 3, followed soon after by an expansion continuation.
releasing a XCX DE during launch year is a terrible idea considering 4 should be coming within a year or soon after the launch year of the switch 2
>within a year or soon after the launch year of the switch 2
Assuming they're not rushing like with XB2, expect XB4 to have a similar dev cycle to XB3: about 3.5 years from the launch of the DLC.
Also, XBX DE would most certainly be put on a B-Team who are tasked with familiarizing themselves with how to optimize for new hardware and as a starter-project for new hires (Takahashi likes to do that) so that they get the most out of the new chipset with the next game.
While XBX DE is being made, I wouldn't be surprised if XB4 was in pre-pro with them figuring out a setting, story and cast + character designs
it better fricking be they cant just shutdown X and leave it like that
is this really what you Nintendo losers get for JRPGs? This looks awful.
JRPGs are only turn based. That's an MMO-like ARPG.
I can't fathom how anybody can enjoy the battle system in those games.
well, maybe because they play video games and not just look at them and then rant on Ganker about israelites or whatever
is this edited to look like the modern game ui meme or is it real
Sadly real.
I miss how straightforward the first game's UI and art design were.
I just realized not long ago that you can turn all this crap off if you wanna and I did.
TOTAL CAPYBARA-PARAKEET DEATH
The fact this webm is real is so fricking sad. Xenoblade quite literally fell into the crowded UI meme.
It's a little different when it's part of the appeal vs an unfortunate outcome of players being too stupid to do anything without 1000 skinnerbox UI elements driving them through games that are also trying to ape cinema and realism in very stupid and unimportant ways.
I would argue that you need all that shit on screen and at that size because of the screen size in handheld mode.
It's fricking challenge mode. The mode where you fight waves of enemies and have to clear them in a time attack scenario. It's meant to be more sensory overlord.
What a shit UI. It doesn't even have a semen level bar.
Trademarks don't really mean anything. They get renewed even when publishers don't release new games.
Takahashi already confirmed around when XC3 came out that the series will continue but that was the end of the klaus experiment arc
He said it was going to be Xenoblade 3 then a sequel to X
so now we have xenoblade in lost jerusalem?
I don't think NOA has the balls to keep the name "Lost Jerusalem". They'll change it to something else.
>the end of the klaus experiment arc
This makes very little sense to me as everything that happened to this point is becauase of said experiment.
Which means that either a new universe is birthed from a new WOAW plot twist (boring rehash) or something like that, or we start a new story that has nothing to do without the previous xenoblade setting, which means...it's xenoblade in name only.
>Saga """"""start"""""" with the world splitting
>End with with the halves merging
What's so difficult about it?
It would mean its a completely different game or a prequel to the klaus experiment arc because everything that happened after it SHOULD happen in the same universe therefore it would be part of the klaus experiment arc anyway.
I think it just means that with Xenoblade 3, they've resolved all the consequences of the Klaus experiment, so a sequel can take place in the fused world but the story wouldn't be about dealing with the repercussion of the experiment anymore.
>event happened in the past
>now everything in the present and future has to be considered the same story arc because something happened in the past
autism
Man, 3 was such an mediocre end to the trilogy, finished off in a fricking dlc, while the main story was just spinning its wheels in place.
It's our most hated RPG of the decade for a reason... nobody has anything nice to say to it!
stopped reading at
>green haired abomination archer
Can we finally ride mechs in a vibrant sci-fi fantasy setting now?
You can do that in x
Why are these classifications so broad? Yeah, Nintendo does sell other types of merchandise that could fit under paper and leather, but where the frick does precious metals come in? Is there Nintendo israeliteelry now?
Licensed game merch probably.
because governments must catalogue everything for the purposes of taxing and regulating you
I'm cool with it for corpos because they should fricking die but the US tax code is purposefully complicates so they can come up with endless ways to audit and tax you
You have no idea how stupidly popular pins are.
X2 or frickoff. No more moronic adventures after 3
What do you think it will continues as?
>Xenoblade Chronicles 3 Future Redeemed
>Xenoblade Chronicles X
>New independent Xenoblade continuity
X gets remastered for the Switch successor and the same engine is used for the sequel
This makes the most sense and its why they wont do it.
Most likely drop the number in the title and have a fresh new look and combat along with the Switch 2. The series didn't grow with 3 but its fans are notable enough for it not to shevled, and Nintendo has enough cash to keep Monolith and Takashi creatively satisfied since they do the heavy lifting in their AAA games.
>New independent Xenoblade continuity
Get ready for Xenoblade Y, a gacha spinoff that's acts as a gachafied culminate of all mainline Xenoblade gameplays.
Oh boy, more censoredslop from DEI troonylators even in the Japanese versions until some crumbs are given later in DLC.
bump
Cry more pussy you, know it's true.
Japs are such big consoomers now to it's insane.
Not even a few decades ago they'd be sperging endlessly if their companies were prioritizing foreigners, "le global audience", over designing their shit for Jap audiences. Now they just eat up shit like this and all the androgyny in nuPokemon and other notable series from the country one after the other unquestioningly.
>Cry more pussy you
But you’re the one crying first?
>GRRR I don't like what he said so I'll just shitpost with a (You)
Whatever you say homo, absolutely riveting discussion there and totally not asspain.
Y u mad
>absolutely riveting discussion
you first
>Cry more pussy you, know it's true.
I literally posted a blank post in response to you and you started having a meltie
And now you're samegayging on top of "no u"ing again too
KWAB
samegayging what lol what other posts do you think I made you degenerate schizo
>playing dumb
Not a good look.
>y-you first
I actually contributed to the thread, you didn't like what I said though so you just quoted and posted instead.
Guess describing the homosexualy shit they did for XB3 got on your nerves or something.
But it is you who is dumb
>I actually contributed to the thread
Saying nothing with a lot of words is still saying nothing
Aww babby's first inspect element edit, how quaint.
>le ebin gaslight
That's cool and all but the fact remains they did that shit with XB3. Conveniently ignoring the devs coming out and admitting they toned shit down for western audiences makes you look even more b***hmade.
Don't worry, I'm sure XB4 will make sure all the women are covered up again and that they explicitly make sure you know they are 18 or older as to not upset xitter trannies.
try less obvious next time, otherwise kys moron.
How about you try English next time, third worlder.
Don't worry, I know when XB4 releases some swimsuit DLC after being a censoredslop mess on release again you homosexuals will pull the same shit you did for 3 and be like
>HURRR UHHH WHAT CENSORSHIP BRO I CAN PAY 40 DOLLARS TO SEE A DIGITAL BIKINI, B-BASED DEVS!!!!11!!
actual newbie doesnt know how Ganker works lol
>mad because his samegayging was caught out
KWAB
>still ignoring what I said earlier about the devs explicitly saying they did this shit since it's not convenient for his agenda here
Expected, but still pathetic.
This is the kind of cancer killing the series too, troony pandering nonsense. Grim.
>KWAB
kill white anglo bastards? always knew you were a leftie
damn that acronym really makes you troony tourists seethe lmfao
>you can’t prove to me you are two different people calling me a moron
The average tard
>Japs are such big consoomers now to it's insane.
Frick! You dont even know the half of it!
https://x.com/politicalawake/status/1776206297274200159
Japan loves when immigrants pozzed up their culture!!
Yep I was about to post this myself. NOA's DEI department will be sent to ~~*regulate*~~ the game and have it send to 20 Western consultancy groups and it'll be another bland generic inoffensive JRPG that Resetera still won't buy because some character was still 0.000001% above their attractiveness meter.
Based. Reminder that Kim Belair personally worked on XC3
A was already confirmed female
*confirmed troony by Monolithsoft themselves
>This is the kind of cancer killing the series too, troony pandering nonsense. Grim.
Also reminder that there is an antagonist group in the game l i t e r a l l y called "the conservatives"
Cannot. Make. This. Shit. Up!
>antagonist group
What the frick are you talking about? They’re mentioned like two times in a side quest as a political faction within The City, no more no less. Any governing body will have a conservative body of constituents, that’s how demographics work.
You’re fricking moronic.
Stop replying to Eric
It's literally just one guy, every single day for the past 2 years he's been doing the same shit
>2 years
8 years, this fricking homosexual appeared the instant xbc2 reveal trailer came out.
How long until he dies while staring at his monitor? There's no way he can survive all this seething he does
This, it was just part of the politics in the city. there are npcs from both conservatives and hardliners. Funny thing to say they were the enemy when there is a mission where Gray kills a group of hardliners. At best the game was trying to say that both sides weren't thinking straight because of the whole mobius situation.
So glad this game flopped and killed the series for good kekkkkkkkkk
So glad i never had sex i only like touching myself at night
lol anyone who has been following the situation knows that it was the localization that tried forcing the they/thems on obviously female characters.
Funny how the artbook that came out recently didn't put a stop to the "controversy". Were gender neutral pronouns used there too??
I saw someone trying to cope and seethe that A was still totally non-binary even though the book referred to her as a woman.
There was never any real evidence for thiis shit because it was never real.
wait, the localization team really just made random females in the game “non-binary” and Nintendo was like whatever?
Nintendo wants to increase their currently low esg score
>and Nintendo was like whatever?
Not the first time some homosexuals working for nintendo are doing these changes. Even with old games like pikmin.
A is confirmed female by the artbook, and Juniper is obvious female as well. You should never trust wikis, as they are all under the complete control of libtards.
NTA but the art book omits any reference to Juniper’s gender. A is female yeah but it’s pretty obvious at this point that they’re keeping Juniper ambiguous with intent
>confirmed male character is romantically interested in juniper
>IS THEY A BOY OR A GIRL?? ooooOOOoooo it is a mystery
who are they trying to fool
Xeno has always been a relatively progressive series in terms of social commentary. The first couple in the series is mixed-race for fricks sake.
I don’t really see how a male character falling for Juniper changes anything. There are plenty of gay characters in the franchise, even in blade (Sheba comes to mind), so the writers don’t seem to have any hangups about that subject. Having a non-binary character would be pretty in-line with the series’ ongoing philosophy of accepting differences. It’s less so a mystery and more of their attempt at representing a demographic for the sake of an already present dogma
>The first couple in the series is mixed-race for fricks sake
Shulk and Fiora?... I don't get it unless you are talking about xenogears or something that i didn't play.
I am referring to Xenogears, yes.
Fei is pretty expressly asian while Elly is white.
They are literally not human.
You’re dealing with Rides, a regular from Enel’s Discord. He’s a libtard and unironically Chinese and has never even set foot in America. He spouts the mixed race couple cope from xenogears all the time there. Like anyone, or Tanaka, or even takahashi himself care about the “progressive” shit when the game was made in the 90s. This is how delusional these people are.
Unfortunately this place isn’t for sound minded people, we’ve got an infection of twitter freaks and with the way Enel is encouraging these raids on Ganker on his discord (in where which he, a fricking school teacher openly admitted to fantasizing fricking his students on)
Just waiting for Anna (a she/her troony from Enel’s Discord) to show up too
the thing that makes it ridiculous is that the characters already refer to juniper using nongendered language before SHE ever reveals HER gender identity, and she's not androgynous at all, there's no reason to assume she's not a girl unless explicitly told, it's not a roc situation where you legitimately cannot tell
and as far as i can tell her gender identity is never once directly discussed like roc's is so its contribution to the series' progressive themes is superfluous at best and pandering at worst
Small as it may be I can’t really bring myself to be upset about it. I have a few friends who identified with Juniper because of it, and their presence does help to round out the game’s demographics. As far as I’m concerned, when you’re making a story about that subject matter, the more people you’re able to involve the better.
Yeah I understand that. I’m mostly speaking in reference to their design influences from earth races. Fei is directly based on a Chinese hero, and both hail from entirely different continents in-universe. At the absolute minimum they aren’t the same ethnicity, whatever you choose to define that as within the context of Gears
You’re saying this about Xenoblade Chronicles 3… a game about how having babies is awesome.
How does that contradict what I said? The game is a celebration of life and all walks of it
Also a game about how we should race mix everyone into one-homogenous mutt society divorced from our individual cultures. Stop pretending XC3 is 'le heckin' redpilled conservative' game.
>Also a game about how we should race mix everyone into one-homogenous mutt society divorced from our individual cultures
???
The literal future of the world as shown in game is a society of humans that have mutted out all the traits of the other fantasy races. I don't see how people always fail to see this when they proudly proclaim XC3 is some 'marry and reproduce' conservative Japanese nationalism piece.
I don’t think they were thinking about that bro…
At most, it’ll be something about inheriting powers
Do you know how your political beliefs are viewed in Asia, Japan, any other country?
back to Enel’s discord, rides.
are you just here because you got banned from said discord?
>is a society of humans that have mutted out all the traits of the other fantasy races
You mean the City? The point of the City is that they don't look like any of the races you have from Agnus or Kevesi to show how much of an insular society they are due to basically being a rogue nation. I don't think the devs gave that much thought to how much the original traits of the Kevesis and Agnians get passed down because they're pretty inconsistent on rules like saying Core Crystals take dominance (which would make you think you'd see them more) but not a single City resident has any. My guess is that they basically didn't think it through when they were designing the City Residents that their population would be formed from Agnians and Kevesi soldiers who were liberated, or that the kids of Kevesi and Agnians could have traits from both (since Agnians and Kevesi don't even retain all their traits from their original worlds).
I don't think that was a purposeful decision the same way you have reproduction be an explicit plot point and part of N's backstory. It's just a visual short-hand for 'these people are distinct from the populations of Agnus and Keves'
Didn't want to think about what a Machina Gormotti would look like and all that
NOOOOOOOO XENOBLADE A JAPANESE GAME MADE BY A JAPANESE MAN SUPPORTS RACEMIXING AND YOU’RE A BIGOT CHUD IM TELLING ENEL ABOUT THIS
Xenoblade 1 was already about racemixing and how it was better not to remain pure when it turned out that pure-blood High Entia are most at risk to turn into Telethia. The practice of taking homs consorts was literally done just to dilute the bloodline
I don't really know what to tell you, guy.
What is wrong with you people
This is such a fricking reach I can’t even start on my next reply. I swear you could find a reason why xenoblade 1 supports trannies and Black folk and play it off as normal
It's not a reach because it's literally an explicit plot point
I don't know about trannies or Black folk but xb1 is explicitly in favor of race-mixing with melia's heritage being a purposeful decision on the part of the high entian royalty to dilute their blood and reduce the odds of zanza taking control of them
they are race-mixing as a royal policy
It’s not the important bro. It was just a small plot point, it’s not related to political commentary in race mixing in any way at all
Now, back to Enel’s Discord
>it’s not related to political commentary in race mixing in any way at all
It's not politically intended like some of XB3's plot points but it's still political in that it does say something about the view of the creators. There's other series where the strength of a people comes from their purity, where the more pureblood a person of a race is, the stronger they are. XB1 not being a story like that does show something about the built-in assumptions its creators have about the world.
Also, I wouldn't say it's a small plot point given that it's what protects Melia from Zanza transforming her when he sends the signal out to Alcomoth to create more Telethia from the High Entia.
I don't think it's a gray area given that it's an explicit detail about the High Entia and their relationship to Zanza that the story spells out as a way to also show why the practice of taking humans as concubine/consorts was started
It's not the whole point of the story obviously but it's hard to say XB1 favors any sort of genetic-purity position when it has that
>There's other series where the strength of a people comes from their purity
>XB1 not being a story like that does show something about the built-in assumptions its creators have about the world.
These are pretty big reaches. You vastly overestimate the ability to ascertain a creators politics from story beats like that.
I mean I think you can make some broad stroke assumptions about what a writer either believes or doesn't believe based on their works. Tolkien probably wasn't consciously using the mongols and accounts of them as reference when describing orcs but their features as generally considered to be very consistent with the English descriptions of mongolians.
Same with how you can tell that JK Rowling wasn't a left-leaning advocate for LGBTQ when you read harry potter and then see how she had to retcon dumbledore into being a wienersucker.
My point is that it's unusual when just the impurity of the blood is a plot point and, specifically, a benefit to a character or people. Usually it's a situation where a character gets super-powers from one half of their family that is more powerful than the other genetically (Superman's kids, Bleach, DBZ). My point isn't that Takahashi is someone who actively dreams of the world's races mixing and being genetically homogenous and sees it as a good thing, but that he does see the intermingling of people to be advantageous over purity.
You really can't though because you dipping into subconscious shit like
>Tolkien probably wasn't consciously using the mongols and accounts of them
And any assessments about subconscious inspirations are notoriously sketchy.
>Same with how you can tell that JK Rowling wasn't a left-leaning advocate for LGBTQ
That's just a guess. That's not something you'd even bet money on.
>My point is that it's unusual when just the impurity of the blood is a plot point and, specifically, a benefit to a character or people
Presuming that racial purity,impurity was even a flicker. Can you honestly not see how one could arrive at the telethia story beat while not caring about racial purity shit?
>And any assessments about subconscious inspirations are notoriously sketchy.
Sure, especially for dead authors. I'm just saying that it's not impossible to make educated guesses, like the Dead Marshes being at least partially inspired by Tolkien's experiences during WW1
People write what they know, no?
>That's just a guess. That's not something you'd even bet money on.
Fair enough. Without twitter or social media, it's not like people have venues to just make a 3AM comment on some issue that they're thinking about. But you wrap it up with the names for any non-English and non-white characters being basically stereotype names (Cho Chang, Seamus Finnigan, Kingsley Shacklebolt) and the reality is she's probably just a normal English woman with political sensibilities in the national median for the 90s or so. My point, again, is that you can parse something about someone's world view based on the things they choose to present as banal or typical in their stories, and specifically that she felt the desire to change things after the fact for Dumbledore when pressed on it.
>Can you honestly not see how one could arrive at the telethia story beat while not caring about racial purity shit?
I can see the direct path of the Telethia storyline being that anyone with Entia blood can be turned into a Telethia, and Melia resists with willpower. That's the more 'typical' version of this storyline that I'd intuit if you gave me the basic details before telling me the reason for Melia's hybrid heritage.
Like, it's a pretty unusual detail to include. My point isn't that Takahashi was consciously thinking about purity or impurity in general or societal terms, but that he even conceived of a plotline where impurity could be a benefit in a cultural context that tends to regard homogeneity (both genetically and culturally) as a preference over heterogeneity is unusual further.
Did someone on your discord say this? This reads like it’s echoed
Are you autistic?
Are you perhaps a democrat?
Do you know autistic people have no “gray area” and can only do/view things based on the extreme?
It sounds to me like you’re drinking the leftist Kool-Aid way more than anyone else
no the point is that the citizens are the future of the world. they're a reformed humanity only possible after generations of breeding between the people of both worlds. the dominant traits from the various races are there to imply that many generations have passed between matthew's time and ghondor's. dominant traits can be bred out given enough generations.
>when they were designing the City Residents that their population would be formed from Agnians and Kevesi soldiers who were liberated,
This is blatantly wrong because FR does have City people with traits from other races, like Na'el and Mickey
Yes but my point is that I wager they designed the city folk without a ton of consideration for what the population of the Founders time would be. We know they had considered having Gormotti and even Entia founders but I don't think they really put two and two together. The first we get of them talking about how Kevesi or Agnian traits get passed down is with Rex saying that Core Crystals get dominance
I thought dominant traits only get bred out of if they're either really rare among a populous or disadvantageous to a given environment?
No. They can get bred out by luck of the draw just like recessive traits.
>literally everything that isn't just normal human will get bred out of the society of disparate fantasy races that even includes things like sentient beasts completely through chance
All the more reason to toss 3's story like the half-assed garbage it is.
Well the second City has basically been an insular society for the most part, no? They lack any way to free soldiers anymore without anyone around who can destroy flameclocks.
What makes me curious is how many genes affect things like Machina or Gormotti biology. At least in the case of Matthew and NA'el, it seems to be things that Ghondor didn't inherit at all but passed to Na'el down two generations but skipped Matthew.
>Well the second City has basically been an insular society for the most part, no?
Yes, but Takahashi also recently insists that all these same people will come to exist in the actual joined world under completely different non-isolated circumstances. Which is also it's own fricking can of worms regarding determinism in a series that also preaches being able to carve out your own future against fate.
Frick, man. I just hate so goddamn much about 3's story.
So actually I was thinking about the raped women example for why a city kid wouldn't be reborn. But what's stopping the rapist from deciding to rape again. And by rape again I mean rape the same person again.
Or what if the rapee in Aionios decides this time they will get the drop rapists and rapes the rapists. Think about all the death note style mind-games as people who interacted in Aionios try to discern how everyone is using their final incarnations.
>Which is also it's own fricking can of worms regarding determinism in a series that also preaches being able to carve out your own future against fate.
Xenoblade (and the larger Xeno series at large) is pretty clear on the topic of determinism: it's not deterministic as much as people's wills are strong enough to cause certain outcomes to happen (if at least in the realm of possibility). If you put Noah and Mio next to each other, they're going to want to be together in 99% of situations.
Xenoblade isn't deterministic in the sense that there's an external flow or force or will that pushes events to happen. All the deterministic events that happen are a result of people's personalities trending towards certain outcomes in the majority of circumstances as a result of how they process experiences. It's why Joran is a loser in most worlds and never becomes a super-soldier: he's just not that kind of person to take to war and combat like other people.
Now, whether Takahashi thinks that Origin or the Conduit can perform a Phenomena Phase Shift to make those people exist, it's unknown
The game itself presents scenarios where certain people would've absolutely NOT get together under different circumstances. To later go on the record and say that everyone there WILL still exist is absolutely determinism. It's ill-thought out.
You''re misunderstanding the states the worlds are end post XC3 world reboot and fusion. Things didn't reset, Aionios still happened, and people still have memories of the Aionios happening. In other worlds the different circumstances point is moot because they already met under the previous circumstances and still have memories of those meetings.
>everyone just has thousands of years of misery memories
>and they'll all certainly choose the exact same path in life despite all reverting to a child or non-existence and now living in a completely new world under new circumstances
It's stupid. You're fricking stupid for thinking it just works.
Aionios wasn't just misery. I mean come on you played the game you know that the soldiers weren't all depressed sacks of shit. And the soldiers had memories of their past lives too so in spite of the 1000+ years of war they managed pretty well.
Secondly they obviously don't need to make the exact same choices. People like Dirk or Joran or Shania will have the chance to do things better. Potentially. That's the idea behind the ending behing the "turning around going back looking for a new way forward" Yadda yadda keep walking that path. They'll take their prior experiences and use them to create an ideal scenario.
I'd even go as far as to argue that half the point of the game is discovering the ability to find joy beyond the militaristic life that defines the world of an Agnian or Kevesi Soldier from the moment of their creation, as well as the modern culture of the City.
>They'll take their prior experiences and use them to create an ideal scenario.
Exactly. The basic gist is that everyone took a risk by allowing Origin to reboot the world states, but the story is clearly saying that taking that risk is worthwhile because it gives you the option to strive towards a more ideal world. XB3 is a pretty uniformly happy ending.
You stupid Black person, there are people who wouldn't have even gotten together if things that had happened in Aionios hadn't put them in that situation. Do you really think every single fricking person is just going to get together with the exact same person because of vague memories? Do you think there's absolutely NO ONE who had a more ideal partner under better circumstances? Do you think there's absolutely NO ONE who will discover a better partner in the real world? Do you think there's absolutely NO ONE who will have issues even being born in the same generation as who they wound up with in Aionios? The idea doesn't fricking work.
>You stupid Black person, there are people who wouldn't have even gotten together if things that had happened in Aionios
This is a moot point. Those things still happened. The worlds rebooting didn't erase Aionios nor the time or experiences spent there.
>NO ONE who had a more ideal partner under better circumstances? Do you think there's absolutely NO ONE who will discover a better partner in the real world?
So the counter argument is that what makes a partnership or relationship ideal is the time and effort the participants put into it. Not the circumstances. With memories people have the capacity to try again and turn otherwise unideal relationships into ideal ones. And arguably what you're stating is closer to determinism because it's basically asserting that the new circumstances supersedes the choices people can make now based in their past experiences. And it worked for Noah and Mio, it can work for everyone else.
It literally will not. Butterfly effect, chaos theory, call it whatever the frick you want, it does not all play out the same way if you put one iota of thought into it.
>It literally will not. Butterfly effect, chaos theory, call it whatever the frick you want, it does not all play out the same way if you put one iota of thought into it.
Okay but that's not how characters in the Xenoblade world work. Like, the same individuals can will the same or similar outcomes to come about.
Noah and Mio literally persist through their homecomings due to (what we can only assume is) will power and their desire to be together
Cat pussy > butterfly effect
>literally just resorting to shitty memes because his story doesn’t work
It's not a meme, I'm telling you that willpower is a driving factor of life-outcomes in the worlds of Xenoblade and that it supercedes the causality of stochastic events that butterfly effects describe.
Or rather, it would be more appropriate to say that people's natures and dispositions are so intense in Xenoblade that their fates tend towards very similar outcomes if the surrounding situation allows for it in any shape or form.
You could describe it as a form of intrinsic determinism, the idea that the personalities people have and (especially with Aionios and it's cycle of rebirth) the experiences they encounter draw them to similar outcomes like a form of mathematical convergence as n goes to infinity
There are people with thousand year lifespans when not held to Aionios rules. To assert that everyone of those will WILL themselves into the same relationships that might not even be feasibly possibly is moronic beyond belief. XC3’s story is garbage, and the most you can muster is some Todd Howard “It Just Works” bullshit to explain it.
>There are people with thousand year lifespans when not held to Aionios rules
So?
> the most you can muster is some Todd Howard “It Just Works” bullshit to explain it.
That's how the Xeno series works, yes
I don't understand, How do you go from
>City people being reborn is determinism
to
>People can't achieve a desired outcome by their own will.
>People choices aren't significant enough to matter, so it has to be deterministic so that people choices can matter.
That works against itself.
>literally just seething because you're too moronic to understand a simple concept
lmao, xenogears would filter modern Ganker
it's not 1:1 real life obviously. it's supposed to be a bit miraculous.
>regarding determinism in a series that also preaches being able to carve out your own future against fate.
oh you're that moron.
>oh you're that moron
Am I to presume you're one of the dipshit dumbfricks who thinks so long as you just doublethink and put feels before reals determinism and freewill can just coexist? Because that's fricking moronic. I've yet to see an answer as to why 3's determinism doesn't blatantly contradict the core themes of 1. Just dickriders homosexuals like you that cry about how questioning it means you don't 'get it'.
3's story was a cynically driven means to the Perfect Works end Takahashi wanted to have with very little regard for the standalone foundation he built it on.
Core crystals came from Morytha tech and were just used to replace human brain cells and blades have human DNA in them confirmed by that torna DLC. It really isn't that surprising that after many generations they all revert to being humans.
There’s no reference to gender for any of the heroes in the artbook since it didn’t really cover it.
I don't give a shit about this franchise anymore
Xenoblade gacha for mobile confirmed.
Roll on different banners for different blades.
Get Swimsuit Pyra or Bunny Suit Mythra.
I’d be happy if it was a distant sequel to 3 or maybe a new plot thread altogether based on some other facet of Klaus’ world spinning off
The story is getting so moronic and so reliant on self-referential fan service. I hope the next one is just something completely original.
If they didn’t buy the xenogears IP and merge all of the franchises together into a new direct sequel series I won’t even pirate it.
>so reliant on self-referential fan service
???
>The story is getting so moronic and so reliant on self-referential fan service
Damn, bro you're a complete fricking moron
Holy frick, this. Leave Shulk and Rex's stories alone, I don't give a frick about their 100 kids.
First ride?
>implying tendies know who's this loser is
PLEASE BE AN X REMAKE OR SEQUEL. PLEASE.
I want a Xenoblade game that heavily features space. Not just going to space once at the end of the game. Xenosaga 1 takes place entirely in space, that was cool.
After the mess that was XC3 I don't care anymore.
It's unlikely to be xc4, it's too soon. Maybe it really is X2 and we will also have a X definitive edition? Wiiu's online is finally dead so it's a perfect time for this
>we will also have a X definitive edition
No we don't because X not only is shit, they flat out said they're not doing it.
Why are you lying homosexual?
>According to a new Nintendo rumor, a forgotten Wii U exclusive game is being brought forward to modernity with a remake on Nintendo Switch 2, the rumored Switch successor supposedly releasing this year. The rumor in question comes the way of Zippo, a well known Nintendo insider who has both proven reputable in the past and been off the mark as well. That said, this rumor seems far too random to be pulled from thin air. According to the insider, a "full remake" is in the works for Xenoblade Chronicles X at Monolith Productions, the studio responsible for the series - January 2024
>We want to keep the numbering for the Xenoblade series going. So...The game before this one was Xenoblade X, and we want to take good care of that too. So we want to get Xenoblade 3 out, but also a 2 for cross (X). But if we keep doing numbered titles, it's gonna get stale - Takahashi (2018)
You are getting a remake of Xenoblade X, then a sequel. He flat out said it was Xenoblade 3 first and then a sequel to Xenoblade X
>Zippo
>Reliable
>Monolith Productions
Lmao, it'll happen but stop posting shoddy ai generated articles
>wasting their time remaking the worst, most unfinished xenoblade game
They can't be this moronic. Oh wait, they are. Cool, next actual xenoblade in 6 years I guess.
Worst Xenoblade is objectively 2,
It'll be from C team like Xenoblade DE
A team - Zelda Totk support
B team - Xenoblade 3
C team - Xenoblade DE
There won't be another Zelda game for another decade
>took them six years to shit out a BOTW expansion pack sold as a full sequel
>they're ditching BOTW's world for something new, meaning years of dev time designing a new shitty open world
>no chance of smaller side games like we'd previous get as that shitty hack Aonuma wants every new game to be like BOTW now
Zelda is dead.
Zelda is getting too big to succeed, but that's most AAA games now....
Zelda has it's own team now, Xenoblade has it's own developers and the guys behind X are still designing Xeno
Isn't the guy behind X the same guy behind 3?
All Xenoblade games have the same director, Koh Kojima.
Except Future Connected and Future Redeemed. Those were made by the actual C team, and it's why they're not as good as Torna.
>dlc sold more in 3 days than the whole xenoblade series
So dead...
Zelda is significantly more popular as a franchise than Mario or Call of Duty at this point. TOTK sold over 20 million after a couple months despite being a piece of shit rehash of a already bad game.
This cope is ridiculous. BotW is not a bad game. In fact it is quite good, same with TotK. Its just not really a zelda game
Covid plus another year of delay for polish slowed it down. There was no rush to release the game because of how well Nintendo was doing in general
A Team is core Xenoblade team, while B team is TOTK Optimization support and XB1DE
C Team is their studios that help with general Nintendo technical art
>Zippo
Stopped reading there.
Does it take some controversial rumormonger to set of morons like you?
Anyways, one of Zippo's biggest critics (and an unironic simp to roastie leakers) turned around and vouched his Sonic Heroes rumor, after going over how he overreacted over Midori response to his information.
If that still happening, at least give this one a chance.
>You are getting a remake of Xenoblade X, then a sequel. He flat out said it was Xenoblade 3 first and then a sequel to Xenoblade X
Oh boy we're gonna get XBX with Body Type A/B and Treehouse censorship applied worldwide yipeeeeeeeeeeeee
If i can make a trap / waifu as hot as A then it's okay for me
UH YEAH BROS WHERE ARE WE AT
>Monolith Productions
>It's unlikely to be xc4, it's too soon
Hehehehheheh
Xenoblade X Definitive Edition with an actual ending this time.
Its pretty obvious what they're going to do next given FR's post-credits scene
The book that released last week did feature Takahashi saying "stay tuned, I can't say a lot of things because reasons" so this filing is not surprising
Damn, Eric is LIVID today. He will have a stroke before Thursday at this rate
It's strange how he has it out for Xenoblade specifically so much harder than other nintendo franchises. there are zelda and mario threads up every now and then and i never see him there
He has it out against xbc2 specifically, he only turned against xbc3 when it was clear it won't "send xbc2 into irrelevance" like he desperately wanted but the complete opposite instead.
Because Xeno used to be a Sony associated IP, and now it 100% belongs to Nintendo. That's all there is to it. He made ANOTHER thread by the way, unsurprisingly it's a monster hunter one
Klaus experiment is over because the Xenoblade worlds fused back into one and returned to normal space, the world breaking in two and going into "pocket universes" was the result of the experiment and because now is back to normal "the experiment is over".
I liked 3
Only simpletons dislike 3.
Me too
We have to hate it because it's "censored wokeslop", same with X. We can't actually enjoy or judge video games by any other merit, just by how much "censorship" they have. That is all that matters in video games.
Go back to twitter
kys
>still no X port
AHHHHH FRICK
How this franchise attracted so many schizos?
moronic franchise
They will just let the same frickfaces that butchered the last fire emblem butcher this, or have them butcher it at the source this time
Guess the new suffix. For me, it's Xenowars.
XenoSAGA 4.
UUUUUUUUUUUUUHHH DOOMER SISTERS??? I THOUGHT 3 KILLED THE SERIES???
Fortunately one shitposter on Ganker isn't going to kill the series, even if 3 really was the worst of the trilogy
Eric having a trip without the IP count, i see.
I hope it's not X2 because I really couldn't get into X. The early game was such a slog I lost interest every time I tried to play.
jesus fricking christ
What do you want?
Please god make Mythra's son the protagonist of the game.
No.
Oh yes and we’ve known that Juniper is female forever. The coping that she’s meant to be androgynous is obviously a lie considering her personality and relationship with other characters.
Watch that scene where Kite meets her for the first time and try and tell she’s not a chick.
who cares 3 killed the series by being liquid shit
Meliabros, we have another chance!
im so tired of people thinking renewing trademarks means literally anything
>greasy weeb homosexuals mad that their 'based proud Nippon, down with """them""" ' game also promotes the globohomosexual mutt future as the ideal
schizo or not this guy sounds like he’s from a discord
I kind of feel like I'd rather an X reboot over a remake. To many things need changing, its not like we'll get even half of the QoL Cemu mods that make X better.
PResuming we keep the same map, core gameplay and quests and characters, it would just be a remaster + QoL like DE
The most significant thing they could do would be to either adjust the models or adjust the lighting to make the models less sex-toyish
That's what I mean. I'd still love a HD version like DE but I still think X needs way more love and care to be truly good, at that point it'd almost be a whole new game though so I see they might not bother.
I'd be pretty happy with a graphics uplift and keeping everything else the same
Maybe add in singleplayer ways to obtain the reward ticket items even if they're making it have online components
I don't think it would be a whole new game. The assets for Skells, the world, the systems for combat and the writing are all done. It's really only the character models and Monolith Soft have already done that once before with XB1DE
Good. I want more.
Xenoblade fans are mentally ill
wasted design
There are 2 other girls who looks the same.
she is just Melia without headwings anon
3 killed xenoblade
>wasting efforts on X
Nah, please put all efforts into new game.
I can't fricking believe we still have Xgay seething daily about some random eceleb.
This thread is pointless I'll say it like it is to make it short:
Woke and brown interracial= Not playing it
Return to Xeno 2 wholesome waifus and likeable characters with a good plot= Will play it
>brown interracial
>he doesn't want brown bird girls
more for me
>90 year old brown bird waif
Bruh
>Ishikawa is woke
Nah, go frick yourself stormshart.
You and most people you quoted are the dumbest of fricks in existence
No argument from you? Guess i'm right
there is no point in arguing with idiots like you, it's just a waste of everyone's time
PLEASE GIVE US MORE OF X AND X2. I DONT WANT ANY MORE SLOP XENOBLADE1-3 I WANT X AND TO MAKE MY OWN CHARACTER. X WAS THE BEST ONE
it's gonna be Xenoblade Musou
the KT prez stated they wanted to do Mario next
Where's the moronic Mario RPG schizo now?
will we finally get a tirkin party member?
tirkins deserve a spinoff game in another genre like the prinny platformers
You sorta had one in 2 but was a total moron.
These guys have so much potential if they ditch the Xeno brand as a whole.
Yeah, like sweatshopping A-lister slop and not doing PxZ3
Enel?
My goat.
I'm not actually a fan of the series or any of its games. I'm a "fan" of 2 because it isn't censored and that fuels my alt-right /misc/ tendencies. In fact, I probably haven't even played any of the games. I'm just a homosexual moron who spams the threads all day on my autistic schizo crusade to fight back against the woke that supposedly invades my life and rapes me in my sleep.
>alt-right
>XB2
pick one
game has everything a conservative puritans would dread, so much they will unite with their enemies to get it banned
Hopefully 3 flopping will make them go back to making games for fans of 1/2/X.
I miss the days when Xenoblade Chronicles was the only game in the series and discussion of the game didn't always get instantly derailed by shitposters from Discord.
Yeah, Fiora vs Melia was much better,
It's Xenoblade Z, that explains Zygarde origins
They better bring back at-will sex changing from Xenoblade X, and I better be able to choose non-binary. Juniper was not enough.
XBC2-2 soon bros
>Continuing Xenoblade after 3 profusely shat itself.
shitty remaster of xcx for the switch 2 to show off GRAPHICS just like it did on wiiu