>no seasonal battle passes
>games JUST WORK right out of the box
>no need for internet
>library of hundreds upon thousands of games
>local multiplayer
>games can't be delisted and disappear from your library since it's all physical
There's no a single instance where modern gaming is superior to retro gaming other than graphics, take the retro pill.
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Look at all that boomer slop lmao
Kys zoom zoom
Some people will try to convince you this was a worse time for video games, these people have an agenda.
Games peaked with PS2
>play ratchet and clank rift apart
>its just a ratchet and clank game
>they already existed on PS2
>no innovation
u rite
That's where it fell apart.
-Millions of licensed sports games
-Sony's anti-japanese attitude began forcing the closure of nearly all japanese studios
-Journalists started saying western cinematic story games were the way forward
>show up
>kill sega, but at least you have cool jap kino
>then kill off all your jap kino
I will forever harass each and every snoy on here until my dying fricking day, 100 years of harassment
peaked and then stagnated
Kinda ironic the few modern games that applied those green are the games developped by Nintendo
I agree that gaming generally fell off a cliff after the 2000s, but to play devil's advocate:
>no seasonal battle passes
Instead, you either had to wait for a full-priced yearly revision or you were shit out of luck.
>games JUST WORK right out of the box
Almost all the time on console, yes. But home computer games had a more pronounced rash of games that were made intentionally unbeatable in one way or another because the publishers couldn't be arsed to delay them.
>no need for internet
>library of hundreds upon thousands of games
>local multiplayer
All good.
>games can't be delisted and disappear from your library since it's all physical
Instead you had to put up with often pitiful print runs for great games that weren't promoted by the platform holders, and there's also the issue of region-locking outside of handhelds (although, to give you an olive branch, even that artificially became a thing with the 3DS and Vita). But if you're in a position to address these issues for these consoles, then you're likely in a position to also mitigate your listed issues with modern gaming in the grand majority of cases.
>Instead, you either had to wait for a full-priced yearly revision or you were shit out of luck.
Game updates were distributed via demo discs in magazines or directly from publishers.
This was very much not the norm and you know it.
What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
>generally fell off a cliff after the 2000s
Nah 2012 was when they officially died and became a "service" and MTX became commonplace, granted trip A nonsense was a thing already but at least there was still solid gems and people weren't afraid to call out bullshit.
Plug & Play will always remain superior than having to wait for download and installation to finish, this is why consoles are obsolete right out of the box they came from
Why is it so hard to make new things as good as old things?
Because after that gen, they reached the peak with simple designs and most of those morons thought the next step would be to make games detailed af and closer to reality which takes a shitload lot of time by neglecting other aspects like gameplay or level design
Game movie doesnt come out of nowhere after all
>Why is it so hard to make new things as good as old things?
i ask myself this shit every day, but i think it's because everything that started with a much smaller and fresher market have gotten too big for their own good.
>smaller more focused markets
>smaller more defined userbases
>smaller easier to manage companies and teams (more like-minded as well)
>smaller budgets with better planning and/or more risk taking
>older more limited tech sparks creativity
all of these things were pretty balanced in a way that made video games thrive. but since everything in all aspects are frick huge now, things feel more boring and gray. this isn't just with games though, this pretty much applies to everything.
A game with too small of a budget and team will have a hard time realizing anything more ambitious in scale.
A game with too big of a budget is so expensive that it has to sell gangbusters, and no company is willing to leave that in the hands of creative so marketing suits completely take over and dictate the game design top down despite not knowing anything about games.
The middle ground is too rare these days.
Money. Either it didn’t make enough money, they wanna make more money, or they’re blinded by money. There’s no reason we can’t go back except because of greedy israelite devs
People don't want it. Imagine a game with limited lives and continues today. Apparently a more recent beat em up came with only one life thus you had to 1CC it and people b***hed so hard it made the developer input a few continues. Modern day gamers are soft and adverse to challenge. You don't need to beat a game within the first time you sit down and play it.
Kek, is this a Plutonia gif
Soulless zoomer trooner
Limited lives is a gay way of doing difficulty
That's a silly way at saying you suck at them.
You can't suck at a limited lives system.
But somehow you manage to do it.
Then congratulations on being the first.
This makes no sense. If you cannot complete the challenge the game gives to you, i.e. beating the level with 5 lives or less, then you're not skilled enough to progress. So, yes, you can suck at a limited lives system.
Hey zoomie, just look at it like one of your little battlepass quests
>complete the game using X amount of tries
Now do you understand?
got too popular
Not to mention that most modern games are generally based on what was established in the 6th gen but are just worse versions.
7th gen gaming was peak gaming, nice try boomers
Peak dark age of slow brown and bloom fps.
terrible shit.
>take everything about the 6th gen but cover it in a piss filter
i miss the old wrestling games so much
if updating games was a thing back then, space station silicon valley wouldn't require me to take out my expansion pak and it would be actually possible to 100% without cheats
i miss when they had to actually FINISH a game before release but I still remember the minor downfalls that resulted
Good thing theres tons of old games to play with, there isnt much to look foward anyway
Modern gaming allows me to play all these classic in 4k on an emulator now. So there is that.
you forgot
>no need for shitty accounts
>they were real consoles . not this pc wannabe crap since the xbox and ps3 generation
>if theres a bug that breaks the game youre fricked, theres no update
Thanks to that its f.e. impossible to beat the german version of digimon world on ps1
It hasnt been all nice and rosey
The generation during which you were a kid is the best one.
I disagree. If that were the case I'd say the SNES or Genesis were the best ever but it's clearly the 6th gen and I was an adult for that era.
>games can't be delisted and disappear from your library since it's all physical
this is stupid
delisted games don't disappear, piracy exists, cracks exist, if you want physical you can burn a fricking cdrom
it's stupid because entropy guarantees your physical shit will eventually stop working. No matter what. Your discs will pinhole. your pin connections will wear. the internal battery will die.
all repairable
>repair a disc that's decaying
sure thing pal
burn a new one
>just take a DIGITAL copy and make it physical
uh oh, stinky
ripped from a disc
which fell apart.
sounds like a reason to switch to digital and avoid that nonsense step
I've never had to do it.
I've never died either so i guess that's not going to happen
then I'll burn a disc
>i'll turn a digital copy physical by paying for and using up a disc
why?
To use real hardware
This entire argument is stupid. You have to do the same thing when a HDD starts to go out.
>This entire argument is stupid: You have to do the same thing when a HDD starts to go out.
ftfy
>proprietary hardware infamous for temp issues
>optical media
>hdd
>not ssd or nvme
For long term storage hdd is usually better
>delisted games don't disappear
Why do zoomers lie?
idk what kind of shop you're using
I'm staring at my mk9 on steam right now
>it doesn't disappear
>no one can purchase it any longer
what is wrong with zoomie comprehension???
Black person it doesn't disappear FROM YOUR LIBRARY when something is delisted.
were you born this stupid and arrogant or did you have mentorship?
are all your games installed?
i can install duke 3d megaton edition whenever i want and have done so numerous times since it was delisted. Same for the PTD version of dark souls.
they are available in my library as they always have been because if steam actively fricked with the shit i previously paid for they wouldn't have the market share they do.
That's PC.
where else are games being delisted?
i still don't know if this is a natural skill or if you had a good teacher.
are you implying I can go to the store and get mario+duck hunt because it's physical ?
are you dense ?
>lmao what about ebay
I can sell you a burned cd of mk9 if you want, that'd be 150$ since you can't find it anymore 😉
nobody is lying. i can still play my megaton edition of duke3d on steam whenever i want even if nobody else can purchase it there any longer.
are you just not understanding what "delisted" is?
You forgot
>all games visually look like toilet leavings
lmao
Seriously thought what's your argument?? Obviously as games get more demanding and harder to make devs have to finance more....or would you rather games to look like toilet leavings forever...be respectful that it didn't happen like this
banjo tooie has a better lighting system than some modern RTX raytracing enabled bullshit games do
>toilet leavings
Do amerilardsharts REALLY?
Microtransactions and dlc ruined everything. Horse armor killed gaming
what if Ganker made our own console?
I miss Genesis and Dreamcast.
>no need for internet
Uses the internet to post this
??
if the postal service hadn't suffered 30 years of brain drain and reduction of offered services, I'd have sent you this thread by mail.
>completely misses the point
I really liked the dot matrix screen Gameboys used and the sound chip was great
>no seasonal battle passes
>games JUST WORK right out of the box
>no need for internet
>local multiplayer
>games can't be delisted and disappear from your library since it's all physical
Mario Wonder?
Nintendo is the closest to the old school console style, although not quite there.
Can't tell you how many times I've turned on my Switch and it tells me I can't play my game because there's an update.
>update
>cancel
>start software
or are you playing some online-focused shit like splatoon?
that's a fricking lie and you know it you disingenuous frick
you can launch and play games without updating or installing any updates
the ONLY time it wont let you is if you're playing an online only game
Try to do that with Tears of the Kingdom. It will force the update by default. I know there are workarounds but it does it by default.
seriously, is Mario Wonder the only game that has been released this year 100% complete? no updates, no day one patch?
It's sad that there shipping incomplete games is so common that there being ONE game that doesn't do it is seen as newsworthy. I was going to say Armored Core or Lies of P but they've both received balance patches since release.
Games on all these have aged so badly that you'll have to be insane to play them when modern games are far superior gameplay-wise.
Gameplay hasn't advanced an iota since the 2000s
>digicuck becomes enraged when confronted with the fact that he owns nothing and it can all be taken away based on the whims of a corporation
Sad! They aren't a very smart people.
And in the future everything will be streamed and on the cloud. Nothing will be allowed on your personal hard drive to be preserved or modified in anyway.
YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND LIKE IT.
You can own digital media. Just put it on a harddrive.
for now
OPs pic plus all the PC games and mods/fan patches, from microcomputers (luv me speccy) all the way up to the 6th gen and some of 7th gen equivalent time frame of PC gaming gives me more than enough games for the rest of my life. I cannot imagine paying for modern slop, especially gay micro transactions like battle passes. I’d expect that out of 14 year old girls, nigs, and third worlders.
>other than graphics
new games look like souless shit
realism=/=better
Op forgot the single biggest factor: Rentals
>$3 a day or $6 for a weekend
>a typical kid could experience a significant percentage of the entire console library just on weekend rentals alone
>for many games even a 24rental was enough to determine if it was shit or worth returning to later
>good or bad we tried to get our moneys worth
>the games that really mattered you would own but this was less than 0.1% of games
Modern Players easily emulate now and or use a gamepass and have thousand of games at their fingertips, but as we find on /vr/ emulatorgays spend less than 15 minutes per game and it resembles “channel surfing” and they don't actually get the same experience. When we rented a game, good or bad we wanted our $3 worth and toughed it out. Even when we burned a disc for modded PS2 there was a financial cost that saw us at least give it an honest playthrough.
Speak for yourself, Ive beaten plenty of emulated games even this year. You just gotta download games once you're in the mood to play them instead of getting one of those complete system library meme archives
Everything looks like shit and is clunky to play also it's all immature anime games. Gaming didn't become relevant or good until the PS360 era and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>looks like shit
subjective, video games today are still trying to achieve the beauty of games from eras past.
>clunky to play
case by case, nothing is "unplayable" but there are plenty of games even today that control like shit. and those from before the 7th generation that feel amazing.
>all immature anime games
blatantly untrue
You can't seriously be arguing that this game looks better than modern games. Mobile games have more detail.
nice bait
It's not bait. It just looks so dated and old. It would be the same as watching a black and white movie or listening to nu metal. It had it's time and place but things are better now.
I pity you.
bruh Super Mario World plays like a damn dream to this day
>Gaming didn't become relevant or good until the PS360 era and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
7th Generation is when things went straight down the drain. You've got to have some serious revisionist history or brain damage to think that games started to get GOOD after 2007.
You can add Switch to your list.
Great bait, friend
Missing the neogeo, pc-engine, master system and dreamcast.
However you are 100% correct in your assessment.
>no dreamcast
moron left out the best console
>no Neo Geo
shit image
~~*Investors*~~ didn't give too many shits back then, and a lot of studios were privately owned.