>How goes your XCOM experience anons?
About to become a lot less tedious >Brutal-AI 3.0.0 >It is now possible to let neutral-factions and even the player's own units be controlled by Brutal-AI. For the player-units there is an additonal option allowing them to set them to force-search for enemies. Note that AI-control for player-units can be toggled on and off by pressing ctrl+a while one of these units are moving.
>Best gal gets shot all to shit by bandits, 9 wounds and like 20 health left (I thought they had shitty nightvision, apparently not) >She proceeds to kill 4 bandits in 2 autofires and has enough TUs leftover to run to medics
If there are light sources which illuminate your gals, regular humies can see you just fine. That's why you should continuously switch NV on and off, so you don't get caught off-guard.
Updated OXCE and XCF and everything seems to pop to an eye-raping degree.
Did Files and/or OXCE change the colour palette in some recent release or am I having a stroke?
Or heavy suits. I beelined them in my current game because I got lucky prerequisities from interrogations. I even got them before researching the trigger (communications) for the burning city missions, lol.
i use agressor outfits early plus some shit like gas mask and carry a fire extinguisher if I want do them early
tbh just running around and stealing some million dollar safes plus some other items is worth
Is it worth it to give swiftpaws or bodybuilder for catgirls? The latter seems to just spec them into worse ubers and the morale penalty on swiftpaws seems pretty hefty.
They're the only food you can eat out in the field without any health/fatigue requirements and they also restore 3 freshness a use! If you have enough apples+meat you can heal a nearly dead gal back to full.
Ironically, I did rush it. But only make about 5 a month because I don't need the money/don't have the space for gold bars.
They're the only food you can eat out in the field without any health/fatigue requirements and they also restore 3 freshness a use! If you have enough apples+meat you can heal a nearly dead gal back to full.
ooo, I never actually looked at the stats. Time to give the gals a healthy diet for once.
Don't remember the exact versions, last changes were grey getting modifiable magic books, red having early chainmails and blood ax nerfed, green getting a bit of stuff including gal transformation but having laser replaced with heavy weapon.
I assumed lava because it's all black and red in a way that resembles a magma zone somewhat, don't actually know what it's supposed to be just that it fills itself with sleep gas pretty much every turn.
>Ghoul Town >fills with gas every turn >including closed spaces like inside buildings and the craft
What do you mean? I assume Haunted Forests do the same. I have gotten the craft insides go up in flames in the Hot Pursuits map.
I was safe in the airbus in the haunted forest, I don't know if if already open doors close before the gas appears though. Ghoul town I think is only regular smoke, the forest makes actual sleeping gas.
If you run (hold down ctrl and click) or hold shift down while walking then a unit will keep moving when an enemy comes into its field of view
If you weren't holding down shift then the machinegunner might have just reacted faster than your idiot did
Not according to the script, scented message 1 triggers are research completed Earth's Satellite Network Hulls and Drills Heroes' Blessings Capitatory Tax, first possible month is july 2601, 66% chance to trigger and you must be at least on difficulty 2(john silver)
are you playing on the newest version? that was fixed and it was caused by n*njas building their bases in these months specifically hitting you with a funky -5000 or something
Speaking of which, do expeditions and other ground vehicles have much of a purpose yet or is earlygame still pretty much just amassing economic buildings and waiting around to get the ability to shoot down UFOs?
various combinations of
undetectable, huge crew for when you unlock them some missions like ground vehicles race, and some have guns to shoot down shit like roving bands of bandits
My latest run has a dumb idea behind it.
Everyone gets a standardized weapon, probably a set sidearm, set heavy weapon, set underwater fricking weapon, or set rifle, pending, along with a knife of some description.
Any unit that performs with distinction gets a unique weapon that only it can carry.
What triggers the expansion of Rimrider bases? I had one, it didn't take that long for me to have 5 of them. How tough are they, i just got access to laser weapons?
I don't know what triggers them but they do get quite obnoxious, what's inside are like 3 types of enemies, bugmen with no psi defense and purple shield, rogue catgirls with medium armor and heavily armored robots with gold shields and they're all pretty well armed but that's the good part.
I would suggest doing these as early as possible because it's a place to potentially loot nuclear lasers much earlier than you can make them, perhaps it's worth it to just do a hit and run land there kill few people who spawn near the elevators take their guns and just run, early nuclear laser can go a long way.
You can always tell where the gun is even if you can't see it because it spawns with an adjacent ammo crate that you can see at night, and is always in front of the same building. After that it's just a matter of just lobbing grenades at it or launching a fire arrow near it and shooting it with the raygun. In hindsight though day is better because the stormrats having both better NV and night camo is just too obnoxious.
Matter is not spawning where it can artillery fire your ship.
Unless you can one or two shot it, if it can see your ship or has a line of fire to spotter/sniper it, the show's over.
Issue with the gun's NV is more for first timers that don't know the spawn, and if you need to run in front of it due to bad spawns. Terrible for both night and day, but ultimately negligible with prior knowledge. Like a sprinkle on top of the stormrat shitmuffin.
Big difference with night is the gun can't abuse reaction TUs to instagib anyone that attacks it from afar. Also the highwaymen have pretty good guns that make them relevant threats during the day whereas the stormrats only ever have pistols that are mostly nullified by metal armor. If you really want to beeline that 25mm cannon early on you can slowly clear the mission with pretty shitty tech at night, but once you have decent gear it's better to just go daytime and blast the thing with an RPG or a stick bomb or something so the mission doesn't take forever.
>syndicate targets councillor >syndicate targets military archives >syndicate targets reactor >syndicate lab found >all in the span of two days
just
just stop
Someone doing the mission for the first time blind I don't see any outcome other than someone getting a gal obliterated and either abandoning or team wiping to the gun whether it's day or night. It's a total deathtrap (like most xcom missions)
After becoming quite acquainted with pre-Catgirls Piratez and ROSIGMAballs I kinda want to give XCF a shot. What should be aware of?
Also, what's the XCF relation with FMP?
>hire another dozen extra agents ASAP >looted weapons that your agency isn't allowed to buy yet will be your bread and butter for a very long time >snipers and battle rifles are king, outranging cultists and monsters is paramount early on >capture and study/interrogate everything you can as often as you can, humanoids often have multiple potential researches per unit type, and the money for a live capture can be pretty nice >by god do not do the undercover "obtain syndicate intel" until you have your shit together, this essentially sparks a war with the Syndicate faction, including powerful base attacks way earlier than you'd usually be worried about such things
Other than that, I've not dabbled in X-Piratez personally but I've generally been informed that XCF is slightly less daunting to get into, so most of the overhaul hard mode autism should be at or slightly below the level you're already comfortable with.
I found most of my main gripes with it relatively easily rectified with Notepad++ and a few hours of experimentation, but yeah, out of the box it has a handful of absolutely WHY.jpg elements that just aren't fun or sensible.
Off the top of my head, I changed it so that if you studied a given normal, mundane firearm (M16, Hunting rifle, FN FAL, etc) you could then buy the ammo for it, mainly because my ass chafed at the notion that regulations were lax enough that I could use looted rifles out of the evidence locker on missions but wasn't allowed to send Mike down the road with 1000 bucks to the nearest sporting goods store and buy .308 and 5.56 to use with said weapons.
Made the van sane to use speed-wise, no reason two rented civilian vehicles, neither of which have any meaningful offroad capability, should have that different of travel times considering 95% of their actual travel time is canonically flying coach on an airline to the nearest city close by the mission.
Beefed up enemy cultists based on their lore, Dagon dudes are supposed to be fearless lunatics according to the flavor text but in vanilla they morale break as easily as EXALT, Red Dawn are supposed to be gene augmented, but in practice are barely any better, etc. I think that last one got addressed in vanilla in the last couple patches, but I haven't checked it out in detail yet.
A bunch of economic tweaks, mostly resulting in early game loot decreasing heavily in value, so less money made in exchange for not grinding my teeth at silly things in the post-mission loot screen. Also some mid-end tier weapon nerfs because I got tired of the OP as shit B.O Autosniper->Turbosniper pipeline.
Then aside from things that bugged me, a lot more time spent on experimental mods made for fun, I've got a half-finished project to revamp prometheans and also allow you to (with difficulty) *make* a natural and differently statted one by using captured mid-tier zombies as a base, combined with a few research and workshop steps. If only all games could be so thoroughly messed with to taste via plain text edits, the industry would be in a better place.
You need a live rare animal for promo 2, so check its requirements and look for an opportunity. Usually mongorns are the most common from the list.
Researches feel like a slog compared to piratez, so try to rush 2 early research labs, bio lab and intelligence center.
This is absolutely crucial and you need to rush the proper lab too. If you get lucky and find a lot of money early on starting another base to get extra bit of research helps a ton.
Most missions have a small despawn penalty if you dont attend them, you can deal with most of them by just sending a team of agents and immediately aborting the mission with no penalty, so you can just kill/unconscious a enemy unit, carry it to the vehicle and call it a day.
I actually dropped a pair of Chinese Dragons, one on each of the heavy turret pairs. Pretty much everything except the back corner of the map is just smoke, but at least that helps deal with Ninja camo.
You can pull some really danger close shit with Dragons if you're not afraid to savescum it a bit to make sure the angles work. My personal favorite is firing from the cargo deck of a heavy freighter up the grav lift into the stern of the passenger deck. Sometimes the tanks like to camp there, and it pretty much removes half of the actual boarding action. In general, the key is to not be on the same Z-level as your target, since Piratez uses not-quite-circular explosions.
>125 kills
Yeah, I make no apologies for spending the last week alternating between being incredibly fricking mad at this base and savescumming the shit out of it. If I didn't have stasis resurrection coming soon, I'd be fricking livid right now.
How do I speed up my research in piratez? I am almost one year in with 19 brainers on my main base and another one in my second that mainly does prisoner interrogations, is that a good pace?
That sounds like average maybe better than average pace, you have nothing to worry about speed wise. If you really want to amp up research speed you will want to create a secondary research base or more if you're obsessive but from my experience something between 50-70 brainers is a decent point to stop otherwise you're likely to hit a wall when rng decides to deny you that one item that blocks rest of the tech tree.
If you want a true minmaxing approach then you need to pick grey codex for astrosensorium, farm glamour using bikinis, little bird, v8, slavery or anything that maximizes your glamour and then just have one of these in every base, I've seen some people get up to like >100 brainers and finishing up the tech tree by the middle of the second year but that's extreme end approach and likely they've savescummed shit to hell and back to even make that happen.
That sounds alright for end of year one. You'll eventually have the capacity to run small research teams in all of your bases, but the buildings for those are all over the place, and don't always make sense for the purpose of a base. A Manufacturing base is usually a fairly solid secondary research base, since you'll have stuff like a Refinery and a Surgery Room there just to be able to build specific shit.
That sounds like average maybe better than average pace, you have nothing to worry about speed wise. If you really want to amp up research speed you will want to create a secondary research base or more if you're obsessive but from my experience something between 50-70 brainers is a decent point to stop otherwise you're likely to hit a wall when rng decides to deny you that one item that blocks rest of the tech tree.
If you want a true minmaxing approach then you need to pick grey codex for astrosensorium, farm glamour using bikinis, little bird, v8, slavery or anything that maximizes your glamour and then just have one of these in every base, I've seen some people get up to like >100 brainers and finishing up the tech tree by the middle of the second year but that's extreme end approach and likely they've savescummed shit to hell and back to even make that happen.
Grey (and Gold) also come with the Dream Library, which is a pain in the ass to get the materials for, but has 23 Brainer slots on its own.
You have to balance interrogations with researching important tech. And if you want to completely optimize it, exhaust the quick interrogations first, then go to slower ones, and so on, and research items that are quickly researchable by themselves.
Yeah, classic, back when Wojaks were used for >mfw posting instead of the post-NPC hellscape where attributing them to the poster's opponent caused the eternal degradation of art quality, because if you're going to say "I'm not angry, you're angry", why not tack on "also you're ugly and smell bad"?
Oldschool wojak >lighthearted abstract emotional expression
Nu-jak >strawman for spamming threads
Pepe went down the light path while Wojak went down the dark.
Most plasma weapons are meme tier because by the time you can acquire and use them you're already capable of killing pretty much everything in the game.
Antihero is a dark setting is still a hero. It would be one thing if the government contract was something you were dependent on to survive, but even if your economic output far outstrips your financial needs, anti-infamy actions like slaughtering civvies put you at risk of mutiny, at least in terms of game mechanics.
Honestly the lore is kinda moronic. Like it was written by someone who only has anime and video games as life experience.
Still better than the new xcom, but this is mostly because video game writing is dogshit.
>Like it was written by someone who only has anime and video games as life experience.
I think you're reading way too much into a goofy story about moronic mutant amazons.
>It doesn't take itself very seriously >I think you're reading way too
idk at certain parts there is just way too much effort put in to be just a joke.
like all that shit about empires, duality, earth politics and most of the demon god shit clearly isn't just some half assed joke. Like if it was then where is the funny?
I'm not some irony poisoned moron that doesn't appreciate sincerity so I don't mind the effort to be honest.
I feel like 40k stopped taking itself as satire decades ago. Don't know anything about starship troopers.
If we're comparing then early 40k >>>>>> xpiratez easily. Like I get the satirical elements of xpiratez especially with the solar courier and government propaganda, but it's mid at best.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm confused why you keep asserting contrarian opinions while at the same talking like a zoomer as if announcing that you shouldn't be taken seriously.
>Like it was written by someone who only has anime and video games as life experience.
I think you're reading way too much into a goofy story about moronic mutant amazons.
[...] >It doesn't take itself very seriously >I think you're reading way too
idk at certain parts there is just way too much effort put in to be just a joke.
like all that shit about empires, duality, earth politics and most of the demon god shit clearly isn't just some half assed joke. Like if it was then where is the funny?
I'm not some irony poisoned moron that doesn't appreciate sincerity so I don't mind the effort to be honest.
You might be autistic, and I don't use it as a buzzword or generic insult.
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Could you imagine being the poor shmuck that opened the lander's hatch, only to be greeted by the sound of a baker's dozen giant frizbees charging up their plasma cannons simultaneously? Do you just slowly close the door again and hope you can Loony Tunes your rapidly-evacuating ass back out of there?
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Could you imagine being the poor shmuck that opened the lander's hatch, only to be greeted by the sound of a baker's dozen giant frizbees charging up their plasma cannons simultaneously? Do you just slowly close the door again and hope you can Loony Tunes your rapidly-evacuating ass back out of there?
I still think the captain's logs have downright nonsense reqs, especially 2. Why the frick do I need to know how to make bikinis or maid outfits, on top of rng locked researches?
Meant to gate people from just scanning the tech tree to the bottom and beelining certain branches instead of just researching on a more general basis I suppose. The gameplay implications of a known tech tree and an unknown tech tree are very different.
If we wanted to be really specific, "read or die" can be essential to beating the game without necessarily being the entire game. Otherwise, why have hidden research criteria at all? Only Dio knows for sure, I'm just speculating here.
I can see and accept that, I'm definitely guilty of overreading the tech tree, but...bikinis? Why would I ever research underwear when I have armored cars and gnomes to do?
If the purpose is simply to obfuscate research pathing to incentivize more generalized research then pretty much anything within a given tech level is pretty valid, could even be done by having RNG flag a set of techs with each save generation if one was to be really hardline about it.
Things like Scented Message, Bloodied Message, Captain's Log, etc are hidden as far as I know.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sounds like a c**t move to make long-winded mods that are already heavily dependant on meta knowledge, even more so.
1 year ago
Anonymous
For a turn based game meta knowledge is the main thing that separates it from being solved in a spreadsheet the moment you know the ruleset.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>solved like a spreedsheet
The game is quite hard enough that only the most autistic people can have it solved.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm just speaking in game design terms here. Opaque game elements play a pretty necessary role in this genre. Whether a game is too opaque or too transparent becomes a matter of preference.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Except if that was true, Dio would say the online bootypedia was against his design.
He does not.
Because it is not.
The game is random, which provides enough opacity.
It does NOT need to cover up what I need for crucial game progression: the random drops may do that well enough.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I mean, if we were discussing Dio's design philosophy it would surely include anything Dio put into the game, like unspoken research requirements for events, right? Whether we agree is one matter, but I have to assume Dio agrees with his own mechanics.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Dio has been working on this for so long I can't even be sure he agrees with his last patch
1 year ago
Anonymous
I agree there's probably a lot of old stuff he doesn't agree with that are currently shelved because he has other stuff in currently mind.
1 year ago
Anonymous
As far as I know, he said multiple times that he hates tech tree viewer, and option to turn it off was implemented partially by his request. The only reason it's not used is majorly negative player response.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't find this is true at all.
Most of xcom's engagement comes from exciting ways to fail and/or succeed on the battlescape, not bean counting and optimization in geoscape.
The game should reward you for doing well by its own metrics, not for reading the json files.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The battlescape is where the highest density of metaknowledge takes place though. >missions that you have very little information about >enemies that you don't necessarily know the capabilities of >maps that you don't necessarily know the layout and features of >random attack roll outcomes and vague enemy damage values
The geoscape is basically a break time where you can plan things with very little RNG or ambiguity to the best of your ability before going back to the battlescape to be bombarded with unknowns again.
>'read or die'
I find it laughable how if you ever complained on the discord about anything you were always first told to read the wiki but when you point out wiki doesn't have an answer or it's some sort of cryptic bullshit they immediately backpedal to "well uh you were supposed to read between the lines anyway". Some articles require mind reading powers to understand what they frick they really mean.
I can see and accept that, I'm definitely guilty of overreading the tech tree, but...bikinis? Why would I ever research underwear when I have armored cars and gnomes to do?
Yes, but that's not my point - you research magic stuff including spoopy death dimension just so you can tell some government that you don't want to do their moronic missions.
I'm the one that got chem blossoms nerfed by the way. Back when it was 6x22 or something nuts like that I bragged about killing an armored car by just autoing the frick out of its backside with them. Sorry bros.
As you wish.
Pirates and Files both have their shortcomings.
I will present what I feel to be the problem I hate the most with both, and you can decide from that.
Piratez is designed to spite people who say it's too easy, even though those people are savescummers or are playing in a way that is allowed by the game. Only recently has Dio cut back on this at all: some of his game is very much designed for the 'Jack Sparrow' (CBT) difficulty crowd.
Files, on the other hand, has some autistic research tree requirements. Capture everything alive. Everything. Even if it seems useless, capture it alive anyway. You will hate this game if you aren't willing to stun a lot of people or run through enemy fire to bandage an enemy VIP/use handcuffs.
Second the 'do every mission'
Even if you just show up and shoot a few guys and leave, the experience is valuable so your operatives and you might get lucky and get a useful hostage near your landing zone
Also do yourself a favour and add showFullNameInAlienInventory: true to vars_XCOMFILES.rul
Shows the rank of the enemy on top of their faction in the middle-click view, so you don't have to guess if the enemy you're fighting and/or need to capture to progress is a 'lad', 'goon', 'coordinator', 'enforcer' or whatever, which comes down to memorizing the (hundreds of) sprites anyway.
Just go with what you want, they are both fun, just be aware that they will demand a massive amount of your time if you want to actually end a campaign.
Play unmodded game first, at leas a couple of missions, to really appreciate the difference and get acquainted with it. It's short, so you may as well finish it if you like it enough.
Piratez and files, despite a lot of similarities, play differently. Piratez is overall a better mod, but files is good too.
>fought FIVE star god ships to fend off conversion attempt >they adopted a zero tolerance policy anyway >had full coverage and a spy zeppelin keeping watch
Yeah, no, editing my save, frick you.
What's the big deal? One country funding doesn't mean shit, and you most likely get zero tolerance for zero tolerance before the game rolls conversion again. See no reason to fret about.
It's my home country and the star gays were just pissed off I smashed up their shit, frick you. If it were israelite tribe or yuropoors I wouldn't care. It's the PRINCIPLE of the thing.
>Send a bunch of fresh loks + 1 vet to bandit camp mission at night for easy training >And then John was the zombies
Took me fricking forever holy shit. My vet got singer'd out of nowhere halfway through, too, of course.
At least the loot is good
so how does the new interrogation thing work? I have interrogation researched, I research a guild engineer but he doesnt give me GUILD ENGINEERING. Do I have to unironically unlocke very single fricking thing from his tree before getting it guaranteed?
Yep, it's just added to the pile of potential freebees. You might get it first go, you might get it dead last. And we both know which one will happen every time.
getOneFreeProtected just means it's locked behind other researches. Once you have those prereqs, it gets tossed into the pile with the rest of them. Does nothing for changing odds of rolling it.
But yes, still shit. Slimmer code-wise compared to the old method, but ass for the player.
oh my fricking god, I thought it was get one for free protected, dio you fricking autistic sperg
Yep, it's just added to the pile of potential freebees. You might get it first go, you might get it dead last. And we both know which one will happen every time.
On the bright side, I believe you don't need a manufacturing process.
On the downside, I hope you've been capturing people alive to get rid of the useless researches.
I always do that anyway, but it sucks you can't trigger interrogations. Btw what about broken dudes you can find in some ninja missions. Are they in the game at all now?
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Anonymous
I think they only exist because dio forgot to remove them, I wouldn't expect them to exist starting next patch.
The core economic techs don't really need any interrogation anyway, so the optimal route is pretty much to mostly ignore it outside unlocking missions (which doesn't rely on RNG) until you have mass produced research buildings at which point the inconvenience of interrogation RNG isn't that big of a deal.
Getting shadowmasters quickly is kind of annoying but experiment victims make that pretty easy.
When I last played I tried to get to guild engineering, that fricker has like 110 topics and I only got it as the very last topic. I hate this change, the last thing the game needed was more rng bullshit in the research tree.
I remember the very first time I started playing vanilla Xcom, I put my base in the middle of Antarctica, not realizing the grave mistake I had made until much later.
Guys, I took the hunt party pill and it is great.
I've never built one and have no idea what that is
Hunt Party is a very slow craft you can manufacture.
It holds eight infantry and walks to wherever it's going.
You need them to do primal hunts but they're pretty based for any mission of low priority that doesn't disappear when someone is 'sailing' toward it.
I'm going green this time and I love the worm. Great craft for potshooting much stronger enemies with minimal danger mostly. If only there was a way to turn off the gas at will it would be perfect.
Yeah I'm actually enjoying green run now. Last time I played green was several major versions ago and it was shit. That bioplasma gun is early game changer.
Green is boring because it's very generic on the battlescape but it sure makes the geoscape easier, the craft weapon plus pachyderm lets you knock down strong UFOs really early.
Camping in ships wouldn't be a problem if the game didn't choose to land you in the shittiest tactical position imaginable surrounded by enemies every single time either.
Take maximum capacity of your biggest troop transporter you use and multiply that by 2, that's the amount of troops you should have in active rotation to not have troubles with wounds, deaths, freshness etc.
Mine still take more offtime being wounded than for refreshment. I have the el dorado outfit on my princess and even with that it's not bad. Just don't spend like twenty turns crawling around the map and you'll be fine.
>Just don't spend like twenty turns crawling around the map and you'll be fine
This seems to be the point of freshness, but my counter is 'design your maps so we don't need to you stupid Black person.' To be fair, bringing more troops means more searchng per turn thus less turnsbut it really gets up my nose when devs start telling the players they're having fun wrong.
That's the theory, reality is that you run out of freshness while looking for the last guy for >10 turns and you are only able to find them thanks to bug hunt mode. Because that someone got stuck in a giant fricking maze designed for enemies to get lost in.
>bringing 24 units instead of 6 is based risk-taking and assertive
I suppsoe if you were playing tryhard mode and habitually use 20-30 units per mission, this doesn't change much, but then the logical extension is that the game is balanced around tryharding.
So I began the path of soul and just molding my units into individual specialties, starting with the Escaped Lunatics.
One's a night Ops.
One's a Sniper.
One's a Smoke Ops/Gas
One's the Stunner.
One is the firegal
And the last one will be the laser/plasma gal
I think it's something like no codex? If you select no captain personality three times in a row it leaves you alone and you don't get any benefits or penalties of the whole gimmick.
You're trying to play the wrong game, the best starting loadout is ball bat or handle with molotovs just in case. After beating up a few nurses you should have a good number of cattle prods, which is the best starting loadout when combined with molotovs for killing academy drones.
Best starting loadout is giving each gal whatever their most skilled weapon is so you can get them to competent levels in something asap, in my opinion. Then mass training throwing because it stays relevant the longest with the least tech maintenance.
Muskets are worthless. Use melee, throwing (sticks, javelins) and shotguns as soon as you get them. That will keep you going until you get better guns.
My starting loadouts tend to be just give everyone shotgun and something in the pockets that can counter people resistant to shotguns, knives bombs axes javelins whatever they all work just fine.
Muskets can't hit anything, the ol shotgun you can buy almost from the start is better. You can also use looted firearms, as long as you loot some ammo (and some lasers don't need ammo at all).
You're trying to play the wrong game, the best starting loadout is ball bat or handle with molotovs just in case. After beating up a few nurses you should have a good number of cattle prods, which is the best starting loadout when combined with molotovs for killing academy drones.
Killing everything that moves is usually faster, because after you're 1/3 to half done the mass panic starts. This also solves the searching for last enemy problem.
>faster
I don't care about faster, in the opening months I want to make as much money as possible which means using the cattle prod. Do target practice on worthless enemies like ratmen and bandits, and switch to lethal as the ultra easy enemies get phased out.
I think the best laodout is a pistol in one hand and a 12-TU-or-less melee weapon in the other. It trains stats faster. Your pistol lets you take proper reaction fire and your light melee weapon trains a whole bunch of stats and is more reliable than a shitty early firearm.
Anybody have a clue what mod this screenshot might be from? I think I found it posted in the piratez discord with no context and never could find out more about it
Reverse image search just gives a bunch of screenshots from the base game, of course, so no help there
This likely isn't a full mod at all, probably it's either a submod for something bigger or a mod that never went past concept phase. Maybe you can find it somewhere on openxcom forum but I wouldn't expect you to find anything there.
>disable moronic mechanics like freshness >game becomes much more fun >beat the game easily >leave feedback for dev about the game >moron dev adds more bullshit to make it harder >disable it anyway
:^)
Dio is one of those morons who treats gamedev as a PvP match between himself and the players. You aren't supposed to have fun, you are supposed to "lmao get owned" by unfair gotcha traps to appease his ego.
There's zero difference in slave soldiers gained through black market recruiting and recruiting them from slaves.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Technically the male touch route gives them access to a promotion they don't otherwise get, so male touch SS are a bit better. But yeah, it's definitely not a big deal.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Men only with slave recruitment is just harder men only.
Still probably unlikely to have a lot of good SS if you can't recruit them in batches of twenty.
The game is balanced around freshness. You can do some amazingly stupid shit if you remove it, and some really annoying units would become crippled nothing burgers.
>The game is balanced around freshness.
Wew that's one way to out yourself as a newbie, freshness didn't even exist in older patches and the game was perfectly fine without it.
>and really not that hard to play around.
Sure, until you enter the 5 stage mission with 500 enemies in it in an armor that has 4 freshness drain a turn. Yes I am talking about the new cydonia so have fun playing around that, better hope cigars work in space.
These giant missions have to fricking go, it seems like megamod gays have gone too far off and forgot what xcom really should be. This sucks I'm not playing this patch and possibly never playing piratez again if this is the direction mod is moving to, giant multi stage missions is the last thing this mod needs.
>giant multi stage missions is the last thing this mod needs.
Yeah I agree though I wonder what would happened if I used
>How goes your XCOM experience anons?
About to become a lot less tedious >Brutal-AI 3.0.0 >It is now possible to let neutral-factions and even the player's own units be controlled by Brutal-AI. For the player-units there is an additonal option allowing them to set them to force-search for enemies. Note that AI-control for player-units can be toggled on and off by pressing ctrl+a while one of these units are moving.
and just edited freshness out of the game. Would the missions be tolerable?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>and really not that hard to play around.
Sure, until you enter the 5 stage mission with 500 enemies in it in an armor that has 4 freshness drain a turn. Yes I am talking about the new cydonia so have fun playing around that, better hope cigars work in space.
These giant missions have to fricking go, it seems like megamod gays have gone too far off and forgot what xcom really should be. This sucks I'm not playing this patch and possibly never playing piratez again if this is the direction mod is moving to, giant multi stage missions is the last thing this mod needs.
Multistage missions present two viable options:
1. Ctrl+D, Ctrl+K
2. Removing 'mana' from the options.
You can die a debugger or live as a hero.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>2. Removing 'mana' from the options.
???
1 year ago
Anonymous
Freshness is described as mana. You switch it off.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Freshness is described as mana. You switch it off.
Can you explain how to do this? I don't see it in my ingame options if that's what you were talking about.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It's in one of the options files for the mod.
You can edit them like text files, so use Notepad/Notepad++ or whatever.
>But since when was Xpiratez LW?
Don't even dare to bring up long war or nucom in their matrix hugbox, they hate it with passion and will tell you how it's not "real xcom" at every possible opportunity.
Oh and fatigue is INFINITELY better system than freshness because there was actual thought put behind it and the game was better as a result unlike freshness.
Yeah fatigue in X2 war of the chosen was pretty good.
Modern XCOm is shit. Even Phoenix Point is better.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Even Phoenix Point is better.
bro....
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Modern XCOm is shit. Even Phoenix Point is better.
You are moronic
snakefrickers get out
1 year ago
Anonymous
No you are just genuinely moronic if you think Phoenix Point is even close to NUCOM in any aspect of product quality. Rag on NUCOMs for taking a shit on the old formula all you want, but stop pretending PP is somehow good.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Modern XCOm is shit. Even Phoenix Point is better.
You are moronic
1 year ago
Anonymous
here
If you go into Piratez_Globals.rul you can just turn freshness off. It's referred to as mana.
Specifically it's in user/mods/piratez/ruleset, the mana entry is right at the bottom of the file. It doesn't completely disable freshness. I got messages about being unfresh after eating mutant meat and then starting getting TU recovery penalties. There's a setting just below the true/false switch to just replenish it after a mission though. With it on as well it stopped annoying me.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>it's another "your crack team of hardened veterans collapse into hysterical madness because the last enemy is trapped in a wall somewhere" episode
>Freshness is a perfectly fine mechanic and really not that hard to play around.
Rubbish. It's sole purpose is to make sure you play the 'right' way. You shouldn't have to play around it. Nobody complained about it in Long War because it fit the tone that LW was going for in the first place. But since when was Xpiratez LW?
>But since when was Xpiratez LW?
Don't even dare to bring up long war or nucom in their matrix hugbox, they hate it with passion and will tell you how it's not "real xcom" at every possible opportunity.
Oh and fatigue is INFINITELY better system than freshness because there was actual thought put behind it and the game was better as a result unlike freshness.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yeah fatigue in X2 war of the chosen was pretty good.
It's not even balanced around it. Bear in mind the defense brigade are the ones who play blackbeard/JS on all their 10+ playthroughs, so they're used to fielding 20-30 units and clearing up in 2-3 turns. Of course they love freshness, it's just a buff to them. And these are the people Dio gets his positive feedback from.
What turn is "mid game" "laet game" etc?
Im on week 12 and just started getting t3 units. Other Magic players started to get activated and mine out resources, sabotage my outposts etc.
Im playing as necromancer but i think i fricked something up since my mana and gold income is pitiful. I need some tips
>suppressed pistols deal more damage with reactions, and have such a low tu snap shot that they will almost always be reacting, and they're relatively accurate for a pistol
Nice.
Open to interpretation, though I tend to go with "first Lunatic to hit Mistress rank", and if she dies, then down the rank chain among the Lunatics. If you let all 6 die, then I guess the game kinda says that your early castaways are also gals from the same farm that got separated and lost. All that being said, the fairly recent addition of the captain personality test kinda pushes the captain to a non-unit role, since that doesn't get re-taken.
They start better, but the caps are the same. They do, however often have unique condemnations that theoretically push them a little beyond store-bought crew.
I've only ever seen damage scaling and 'armor piercing' ballistics do anything to mercs without resorting to explosives, the super self-charger (setting them on fire is nice), or running up and bawdting up to them.
>X-Chronicles
How is that mod? I heard about it a while ago. Does it have enough content to make games last a while?
Depends on what they're packing.
Regular merc soldiers and commandos might be hurt by RPGs. If there's a shocktrooper or, God forbid, a hovertank, you're fricked.
>How is that mod?
Slow and kinda infuriating and reminds me alot of that one czech game
Your guys are so fricking weak they get mogged by spear chucking goblins on the regular while being unable to hit the broad side of a barn
>How is that mod?
I really like it. Your dudes start really weak but it makes it all the better once you upgrade to basic muscle wizards. >Does it have enough content to make games last a while?
Yeah, there are tons of it.
How long until that happens?
Before I restarted I was starting to fight pirates and the best thing I had was the special forces equipment of the country I chose at the beginning
One requirement is getting the terror attack from the feudals and taking some of those prisoners and the other is a strong artifact as a reward from the dimensional gate mission. In my experience, the RNG was really bad about giving you the baron's boys in the past but the dev should have fixed that in one of the newer versions.
>prisoners
You got any tips on that?
The taser seem kinda a crapshoot thanks to the low accuracy of your guys and I dont want to send my squishy guys into melee with orcs and minotaurs (or any melee for that matter)
Also any tips on how to deal with those c**ting outcast mages?
Their shield takes more fire than I´d like and going for melee ends up getting the guy(s) going for it their face blasted off with magic
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sorry man, melee is the best way to get prisoners so you are going to have to do it charm damage works too
1 year ago
Anonymous
Fugg
Last time I tried 3 of my guys in combat armor armed with baton and riot shield got absolutely murdered in one swift stroke by a fricking goblin with a pointy stick they all managed to miss
Guess I´ll have to get used to savescumming again
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh wait you are talking about Xfiles, just keep using weapons with electric damage and you will get your prisoners.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I´m talking about XChronicles
I´ve never played XcomFiles
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry, I haven't played it then please specify what mod you are playing when asking a question next time
1 year ago
Anonymous
My bad, I though you were the other XChronicles anon
Smoke grenades (smoke not only makes it easier for the enemies to miss, it also can knock them out or make them panic and the Water shield doesn't block gases unlike the Wind one), gas grenades if you go for the Chinese contract, flashbang grenade launchers for immediate debuffing, stun batons, tasers and dart weapons (these ranged stun weapons won't reliably work against highly armored or sturdy enemies but the mages are usually a different story if you manage to break their shields).
Minotaurs and orcs are tough bastards, you need a whole squad to reliably knock them out even with saves.
[...] >just
With the early game TUs and HP bars it's anything but "just" in XChronicles.
>smoke actually works
Huh, though it was pretty useless when it came to knocking enemies out and since your own guys just up and collapse after 2-3 turns in them due to low base health I thought them to be pretty useless as cover (so far) and the gas grenades the chinese branch gets don´t seem any better smoke damage wise >Flashbangs and dart weapons
Don´t have them available yet
1 year ago
Anonymous
Just shoot them and then rescue them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Smoke grenades (smoke not only makes it easier for the enemies to miss, it also can knock them out or make them panic and the Water shield doesn't block gases unlike the Wind one), gas grenades if you go for the Chinese contract, flashbang grenade launchers for immediate debuffing, stun batons, tasers and dart weapons (these ranged stun weapons won't reliably work against highly armored or sturdy enemies but the mages are usually a different story if you manage to break their shields).
Minotaurs and orcs are tough bastards, you need a whole squad to reliably knock them out even with saves.
Just shoot them and then rescue them.
>just
With the early game TUs and HP bars it's anything but "just" in XChronicles.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I thought you were talking about XCOMfiles, bruh.
Sorry.
Meridian's with mind ammo (you need to capture a provost first tho) will absolutely shred all of them. Even wand of pain fricks them up pretty badly.
For the hovertanks, plasma+rpg
What was the logic behind letting a braverymaxxed agent hit for more damage with a kukri than a tank-sized heavy gauss and only slightly less than a sectopod?
Sounds like I was lucky they all spawned right on top of me. Still, I was expecting fish, maybe deep ones, not a car-sized eldritch jellyfish.
Are there any other constantly moving sprites like that? I can't recall any off the top of my head.
I think moving sprites are mostly a tftd thing, hallucinoids, xarquids, bio drones and native to piratez I think hovertanks and cyberdiscs always animate too.
This Piratez thing looks interesting, can I just pick up and play it or is it going to be too much of a struggle? I never played the original XCom, only Xenonauts
Looks like something you need a wiki/guide open for all the time yeah?
Play
The FRICKING
Original
You really want a grasp of the basics before you jump into Piratez, or any mod for that matter. Xenonauts is close, but nothing replaces the original. You need a copy to set up OpenXcom anyway, you might as well, it's not that long of a game. Long War shouldn't be your first experience with FiraXCOM, Piratez shouldn't be your first experience with OGcom.
You'll have an easier time applying a Xenonauts mindset to it than a nuCOM one, but it's still different enough that you should poke some buttons and blow up a few times before seriously committing. I went straight from nuCOM to this, no attempt at playing the original, and it took me quite a bit to acclimate. I still end up scumming deaths away, especially for special units.
Using a guide is generally helpful, as some necessary events and such are locked behind sometimes downright bizarre requirements, but with recent updates there's not too much harm in bumblefricking around at your own pace. And there's usually anons around that can answer questions and provide tips, and I'm always around to dig through the code for semi-deeper answers, so don't be afraid to ask about your bumblefricking.
I have two tech questions:
- Shadow lamp - iirc it is found during Bogeyman swarm mission, do I have to shoot them down or wait for them to land?
- Guildmaster's and Provost's secrets - how do I get them? Before you just interrogated broken VIP but now what? I don't see secrets as possible topics for them.
-You have to shoot down swarm without radar and do the mission, the ones with radar always explode
-It was changed so the topic gets added to npc list and enabled with interrogation techniques, meaning you must either deplete the subject first, hope for good rng (not gonna happen) or save scum.
Frick, you're right. Game is pretty much unwinnable right now. Maybe I'll tinker a bit with rul file and try to fix it myself. I did manage to fix fartbag extraction that is also fricked in this version.
1) There's 2 groups of bogeymen. One with a radar circle, one without. I forget which is which, but one of them will always get blown up during a fight, while the other usually crashes. Protip, gear for fighting at night against things that see better than you.
2) A quick look shows that Provost and Guildmaster secrets aren't actually assigned to the relevant units, meaning you can't actually unlock them. Someone should probably tell Dio.
Piratez now has so many paths codexes captain personalities I get confused, so tell me if I want the maximum wiener and ball torture experience what combination should I go with?
Reject power, male touch, dumbass captain. You WILL suffer, and you WILL NOT enjoy it.
Reject power, none of the above captain, Male Touch.
On the bright side Male Touch is the only ending where the Gals will have enough loving relationships to reproduce properly.
Sucks as in bad, instead of sucks as in painful. It doesn't have any gimmick like peasant revolution, and it only has a couple of unique armors and trainings to its name. Gal path ain't exactly better in that regard really, but with gals you can still get slave soldiers with a bit more research, while going male touch locks you out of higher-tier Hand hires.
Locks you out of the analytics room, and to get its equivalent (VIP room) you have to go through like 2 or 3 RNG events. Baseline chance for them is ~33%, but one of those events needs onsens or dojos to bump up the chance, BUT they can only happen one after the other and failed rolls have some pretty annoying infamy hits, and that's all you get for the month. So you could end up going over a year without it if you keep rolling bad, like one anon did a while back.
At least, that's how it worked last time I looked at it a couple versions ago. Might've been made less of a ball-twister since then.
Reject power, none of the above captain, Male Touch.
On the bright side Male Touch is the only ending where the Gals will have enough loving relationships to reproduce properly.
How do I manage finance early on? I'm not new to xpiratez but holy shit my upkeep is nearly a million a month and I only just started. Hellerium distillation ain't cutting it. I can't realy on selling loot because I only have an airbus.
>How do I manage finance early on?
Mostly by infamy, each point of infamy(score) is 333$ and if you keep unlocking new missions and doing most of them successfully you should be able to cover maintenance through regular income + infamy bonus. The ninjas don't rape your score anymore so this is pretty reliable now.
Alternatively you can just spam plantation farms until your maintenance goes below income but these are a pain to defend.
Farm bases pay for themselves and then some, even before you get weed farming. Once you have THAT, they're solidly profitable. It's quite possible to have all your bases constructed by the end of year 1 and be making money at month end.
Cabbage is completely worthless. Potatoes have a niche (though quantity-hungry) use [much] later in the game, and the others are only needed for cooking food, which does not need mass amounts at all.
While sewers are god awful they are the thing that makes you think base defenses are horrible thing that should never happen instead of them being free loot delivery. So I'll give him that just for this one mission, all the other giant mazes can go frick themselves.
What the frick are you guys doing if enemies even manage to get to sewers? Base defense missions last like three turns at maximum unless you go out of your way to design your base moronicly.
I fight every enemy on the surface and guard the ladders up from the sewers.
If the enemies have not emerged from the sewers by turn 21, I assume the AI is glitched and debug+Kill.
In many base defenses I can have hangars cleared by turn 2 but someone has already entered the sewers on turn 1 and then I'll waste 10 turns looking for that one last fricker as usually they cannot surrender. Maybe I'm just cursed like that but doing a base defense without doing some tedious sewers crawl almost never happens.
But how do you design a base non moronicly? The sewers prevent you from doing the bottleneck strat so I guess you should bunch the hangars with the access lift?
The holy bunkers, hallowed be their name, will trap the infidels in the hangar.
1 year ago
Anonymous
How do bunkers work? You just build them over a lift?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Build three around the lift.
Basically (assume each letter is a grid square)
H A H A H A
H A H A H A
B L B
B
O T H E R S
T U F F H E
>Oh and the gimmick trap facilities like the flame pit are useless.
They can be useful in specifically crafted circumstances, but for the majority of bases they are indeed kind of shit.
Bases need to much in them for most shit to be worthwhile, in my opinion. If you can build defenses, why not just build more AA guns?
I only like bunkers because they only let you go through one path.
But they're restricted to...what is it, Sore Ass?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>enemy missile takes out the one bunker connecting your base to the lift
1 year ago
Anonymous
not even necessarily a missile, a couple of explosions in a chokepoint during battlescape combat can destroy the base facility
I usually just run a couple dogs down into the sewers for each hanger turn 1 and have them keep an eye open. If they get killed, you know where the guy is and can send gals down. Then again I never go above two hangers in a base, and those that do get two hangers have shit-kicking combat squads in them, so there's less chance of someone escaping below.
>I guess you should bunch the hangars with the access lift
Yes, and put all facilities with animal cages and living spaces next to those so your troops can have LOS on turn 1. If you bother with cannon defences they should line the hangars to have free firing arc right off the bat too. And keep in mind the access lift is indestructible as a facility no matter what you toss in there so feel free to literally nuke it if you feel like it. Oh and the gimmick trap facilities like the flame pit are useless.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Oh and the gimmick trap facilities like the flame pit are useless.
They can be useful in specifically crafted circumstances, but for the majority of bases they are indeed kind of shit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
But they won't stop anything that can't be stopped by two rookie peasants with shotguns.
I kind of feel like the mod's lost it's way. When it started off it nailed the air-pirate theme, but now we're more like, government lapdogs complete with literal tax forms and fines if we do naughty pirate things. We even need permission to live in our super sekrit base.
It's some autismo dio added because le get caught with your pants down suprise base attack or whatever.
I'd personally prefer if it was just an option. Though getting a Void Palm outfit and stunning everyone is kind of funny.
Yeah its literally just a random chance for your Gals to not be in their equipped outfit and instead be in an outfit from a selection of "home" outfits.
There are actually so many ways to get cats now that getting an all cat crew is not out of question.
Last game I've had so many cats I didn't even know what to do with all of them.
Uber bee hive is borderline useful, I just tested them and they took out an early game dark one raid out all by themselves. Had to flush two guys from the sewers afterwards as the bees kinda just buzzed around after killing everything on sight.
Protip for the beehive, build a burrow in advance and then build it on top of the burrow this will reduce building time just enough so you can start profiting from it a month earlier.
>investigate what I thought was a parked freighter with 1 scout in airbus >suddenly mercs outta nowhere >machete and pocket laspistol >but you CAN kill them from behind
I am become Death, destroyer of those that wander in and out of the empty rooms. I dunno why I'm bothering since I can't use their gear anyway. Maybe one will have a vibro weapon. Or I'll lose a bus.
I keep a group of Aqua Suited peasants/damsels around for small ships, underwater and O-G. Gold shields are GOAT for restrictive enviroments, since you're not dealing with conventional guns or explosives.
I see a lot of people waiting far too long to do underwater missions because they need their infinite uptime when majority of the underwater missions can be done within like 5 turns, you won't even have time to run out of air.
People don't seem to realize is that basic swimming outfits come with XP 20 stat which is highest in the game, it's possible to send a noob gal to a underwater mission and get +40 stamina in one mission, secondary stats for rookies raise at rapid rate if sent underwater.
It is annoying to mess around with armors, but something i learned early in my XPZ days that might help an anon or two out:
If you swap one gal into an armor via the armor screen, if you then right click on any other gals in that same menu, they will swap to the same armor (if avalible) without needing 3 clicks each. Extra pro tip is to just keep as many armors as you need +1 so there will always be one avalible to swap into, even if your whole team has to wear the outfit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That one I figured out somehow.
>enemy missile takes out the one bunker connecting your base to the lift
Sadly you have to use six bunkers because otherwise there will be paths through the sewers from the hangars or access lifts.
So your base will have to be:
HAHAHA
BBBLBB
* * * B* *
I presume near the bunkers you would want crew quarters or whatever anyway.
Bunkers are resilient so missile strikes are barely a concern.
Sewers and labyrinthine bullshit was the bane of my existence UNTIL I figured out how to use motion detectors. When holding alt, the interface gains arrows pointing to the tiles that your scanners pinged. Remembering the size of a scanner sweep is 10 tiles in each direction, you can very quickly sweep buildings, tunnels and sewers without worrying about ambush. It also lets heavy weapons like miniguns and hmgs target enemies through multiple layers of wall and fricking mulch them, especially with high powered munitions.
Never leave home without aye-phones once you have them, I like to have a fast flyer to climb onto buildings and safely scan it each turn. Give them a pickaxe and they open the roof up and toss in your bombs of choice.
Literally just have somebody use it. See that radar screen that pops up? Slam that bullshit closed instantly, openxcom has you covered. Rather than interpreting the radar screen that you are only shown one time, openxcom interprets it for you and literally points to the targets in the main interface. While holding alt, yellow arrows like the one that indicates your currently selected units will appear in spaces that have enemies that have been detected. Any enemy that has moved any amount will be detected and the detector is perfectly accurate, with the only caveat being that it doesn't specify the targets z-level.
Main thing with the laser tommy: It's got really good accuracy at range for an SMG, and the ability to set things on fire is pretty nice since Fire is busted on things it works on.
Depends on what you want.
Lightbringer gives freshness.
Monster hunter gives armor.
Lady Luck gives Firing but it's hard to grind for.
Lots of kills with the same weapon give boosts to all combat stats.
>Lady Luck gives Firing but it's hard to grind for.
If it's something like files, using vulkan or similar weapon on faraway enemies will max it out quickly.
Could work so long as the enemy is not capable of accurate return fire.
Still depends on what he wants, though, Lady Luck is kinda shite if you want a melee lord.
I always strive to max out the strength increasing ones, always nice to carry more shit and hulk smash. Also the poisoner giving health regen can be a game changer early-mid game.
Don't use pirate weapons, ninja weapons, or WW1/2 themed weapons unless you want permanent -5 penalties to your stun recovery, morale recovery and/or energy recovery.
Thanks, Dio. Between booze being inferior to generic meds, penalties for commiting piracy, penalties for using thematic weapons and the constant slew of 'noooo, you can't play THAT way' nerfs and tweaks, I'm starting to not feel like a pirate captain at all.
N4 says to be saves compatible, that's good since I'm only halfway to school graduation. Gonna update in a few days after usual update frickups are fixed.
Looks like Dio added two space environments:
MUN - moon missions, probably Black Sun shenanigans
IPL - interplanetary, whatever that is, but "It doesn't automatically mean such a ship would be adequate for raiding heavily defended areas on Mars."
>Check out new Cydonia >There are 5 stages of pure suffering and turret spam >See pic related in one of the ending slides
Haha imagine if she sits on you, that would be so weird haha
New Cydonia was made by Kato, and tweaked (heavely, since for some god forsaken reason Kato add space marines form 40k as enemies there) by Dio I didn't test it myself, Dio told me that without at least 3 BFG it will be a hell to go trough.
To be fair vanilla cydonia was pretty much a joke and going through it without a single death was the average there, a bit disappointing for a final mission.
Dunno, but unless you want to unlock everything it's not necessarily: Crime Lord unlocks Civilization and Contact Mercs, Sky Terror has Stardom, Death Mogul nothing lol, Air Dictator Human-Reticulan Cooperation and Mastermind Market of Wishing
Ah, market comes so late it shouldn't be too difficult at that stage. I still have 2 faction bases in my game and didn't touch ninjas at all. No problem then. I wonder if it will unlock by itself after upgrading, pretty sure I had one air dictator in this run already.
I find almost all of the codex stuff to be irrelevant shit. Some are probably more useful now that Crazy Hannah is a much harder contact so its harder to access craft ammo. Gold gives you a nice early boost in cash and spacesuits I suppose, but now it's harder to get space missions.
>do dio hate fun?
I think it's pretty obvious at this stage.
I'll be honest, I love the Codex shit, but I don't like the menace. It's a big open mouthed fricker (mercenaries love that) that should be good for fighting and intercepting but you can't replace it so you can't let it get shot down
Yeah the Menaces are kind of dogshit. I've given alot of thought to it and El Fuego or Fortuna are the best ones, they can go to the widest range of missions. Use a better ship for high risk assault missions.
Bonaventura has a high capacity which has merit but I feel like that's praising it for giving me lots of soldiers to all have die in one reaction rocket.
There's also the borked researches which anon here
It was easy enough. Here you go anons: https://www17.zippyshare.com/v/AXY80v5K/file.html
kindly fixed. Plus some busted calls to incorrect sprites which caused errors (and were repaired by a guy on the forum).
Were the fixes included in the new version (along with the fartbag extraction)?
Is this the fartbag thing that was missing? I've literally never done this project so I don't know what it's supposed to look like. Guildmaster and provost looks fixed as of N4.0.1 but I can see a small bug where holo spikey smg is missing its description.
In last version the formula uses wrong, non existing item, like in this outdated pedia: https://baturinsky.com/xpedia/##STR_CELATID_TERRORIST_EXTRACTION
I just checked this and it is one per month it doesn't stack or add up so if you want your ogre army you have to actually buy one every month you can't just wait let's say a year to buy 12 at once.
https://controlc.com/479b38f3
Yeah there's this but it was written years ago, it's outdated but there's still a bunch of good advice in it for things that haven't changed much since then.
>Brutal AI >half the fricking enemy commit suicide with grenades on turn 1
I'm not sure they're more intelligent. They like to hide more but I still mow them down like morons.
>The Brutal AI makes AI want to pre prime grenades but Piratez got rid of the 'won't explode if it's in your hand' feature.
For all grenades? I thought only some of them were immediately dangerous when primed.
>Brutal AI >half the fricking enemy commit suicide with grenades on turn 1
I'm not sure they're more intelligent. They like to hide more but I still mow them down like morons.
Ok I'm back from extended testing of letting Brutal AI control every unit in the battlefield, including my own. While the enemies will actively try and move around the battlefield instead of playing hide and seek with your units like vanilla, BA is not very good in controlling gals. Due to Xpiratez being a melee focused game at the start the AI just makes all your gals rush the enemies without even hiding them behind any walls or anything. Now that wouldn't be that important early game, however the AI WONT USE BANDAGES OR ANY HEALING which lead to your gals dying by bloodloss. I tried to give my units bandages on their off hand at the start of the battle but even if they have them on their hand and there is an injured ally near, they will instead opt to search for enemies. So after all that atm a full AI battle campaign in XPiratez isn't possible.
I'm going to try AI Xcom Files now since its more "normal" (ranged focused) since it might actually work properly now. Still worried about those injuries though....
Give the feedback on openxcom forum, im 100% sure that the dev will respond to those problems since he is very active in developing his mod
Okay it seems that putting any sort of melee weapons on your units will make them suicidal, so if you want to use melee weapons then Brutal AI will just think your units are zombies and just move them towards the ayys regardless if they can survive or not.
>finished the tech tree >gayOps Auto-Sniper Rifle still eclipses pretty much every other general purpose weapon against anything but enemies specifically statted to be effective immune to kinetic damage
What is even the point of having 341 different guns if you're only ever going to use a dozen of them throughout the game?
I mean this in a "why would you balance the game like this" sense.
Honestly the earlygame feel of Files where you're still playing as some FBI shmuck reassigned to Kodiak Island to look for Bigfoot for sleeping with your bosses' daughter is the most fun part of the game. When you still have to scrounge and scavenge and pray that your two mags of AK ammo and a 60yo old Soviet grenade will last long enough to take down that Reaper.
"why would you balance the game like this?"
I dunno.
I just prefer 'we have lots of weapons even though most of them aren't meta' over the 'we have three types of gun and we're going to pretend this is a realistic setting'.
>going through the openxcom forum for XP >You can unlock unique stuff and events if you use the right combination of personality+codex
What the FRICK I can't believe the "canon" personality for gray codex is Dumbass Captain and Lazyass is the red codex
If you are talking about chaos saint that's not unique, it's just a shortcut to these events through deliberately picking a personality that is polar opposite to your codex.
>it's just a shortcut to these events through deliberately picking a personality that is polar opposite to your codex.
Wait, so what are the "correct" personalities then?
Opposing personality gets you the opportunity for sainthood.
If I wrote this down right:
Lazy lacks Might, the Red Virtue
Soreass lacks Pride, the Gold Virtue.
Jackass lacks Faith, the Green Virtue
Dumbass lacks Vision, the Gray Virtue.
Lazyass gets angry at the world and decides to go blood for the blood god.
Dumbass is the only one who would choose to reject the power since you can't know about the gnomes or anything else.
The Brutal AI makes AI want to pre prime grenades but Piratez got rid of the 'won't explode if it's in your hand' feature.
Truth be told I use brutal AI since the 'team comms' feature makes the AI more likely to charge out of hiding spots to swarm you, rather than waiting in a fifth floor closet.
I want to start using the slower crafts in my Xpiratez runs, where can I see in https://baturinsky.com/xpedia what missions can't expire when a craft is heading towards them and which can?
No. I think I got into this mod in the Ls or the Ks. Point is, basic manufacturing of bullets is before my time, I'm pretty sure.
I really wish we could.
Being able to make your own bullets would be the easiest way to ease logistics: just having a few runts endlessly working on another set of mags.
Rifle Manufacture basically let you make any basic bullet. now you can't do that and a lot of weapons are useless because by the time you can buy, say, Commando Pistol ammo, it's not worth using, and you can't jsut loot rare rounds like that. It also meant that getting dead lucky with 2 early LACCs meant you could actually use one after researching the other. But that was too fun so it had to go.
does the AI mod make melee creatures actually try to charge you en masse instead of dancing around and (presumably) try to spend your reaction fire before doing anything?
even the base OXCE do this for leeroy now, for example zombies in Files charge you from across the map instead of running in circles, as long as individual zombie sees you
The next best thing is creating pike walls when fighting melee monsters, when they'll try to charge you will hopefully reaction fire and pikes drain time units making them stop dead in their tracks and leaves them open to melee attacks on the next turn.
The next best thing is creating pike walls when fighting melee monsters, when they'll try to charge you will hopefully reaction fire and pikes drain time units making them stop dead in their tracks and leaves them open to melee attacks on the next turn.
>let the enemy try to frontal dodge
Can I interest you in a shotgun, sir?
Would the game be better if the craft was abstracted to spawning "offscreen" and you got to manually place yourdudes in some deployment zone along the edge of the map?
DATS XCOM BAUBE I also savescum but only when my craft/items are destroyed
Both valid reasons to savescum.
Would the game be better if the craft was abstracted to spawning "offscreen" and you got to manually place yourdudes in some deployment zone along the edge of the map?
If spawns were like the temple raid where you spawn in a big square, it'd be a lot better. Most crafts suck.
For years now I've been a strict ironman player, the only time I will ever reload a game is when I'm reporting bugs to make sure it's actually a bug. I'm starting to think I'm just making the game unnecessarily more frustrating than it needs to be but on the other hand I feel like if I savescum I cannot possibly lose so what's the point of playing if I know the outcome of every battle.
As far as I know all it does is kickstart witch quests. You have to deal with them much sooner than you normally would. And you get some free recruits from time to time.
As far as I know all it does is kickstart witch quests. You have to deal with them much sooner than you normally would. And you get some free recruits from time to time.
I've heard there is a strategy where you deliberately go chaos saint and start in thebes, some of those witch quests can be trivialized by aqua suits and the loot you get can outweigh any potential downsides.
I've been Soreass for nearly a year and never seen it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
https://baturinsky.com/xpedia/##STR_CAPTAIN_SOREASS
There are a bunch of random events that get disabled when you are a soreass, look tbrough the list for "FALSE ?Sore-Ass Captain?" for them.
This actually cuts off a good chunk of positive events, remember all those "knock knock here's a random visitor" events? Soreass removes all of them and nobody can wander into your hideout for free, it's strictly a downside.
It makes most of the random events do nothing instead. Your captain won't be tempted by mysterious doors, visitors will be shot til they go away etc. Randomness is reduced for better and worse. Of course the anon said he got the box in the first month, and might have been before the personality test, so shrug.
Well the events are leaving me with a consistent overall loss of infamy but maybe that's better than dealing with the blocked events.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Well yeah they do that sometimes. Events are not enough to deal a critical blow to your score imo. They have higher potential positive value vs the negatives. You can just play Sore-Ass if you REALLLLLLLLLY hate the RNG.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Well your opinions are wrong, because my previous campaign ended before June due to two negative months, one of which was 100% down to the events nudging me down to -20 infamy for the month. And that was also Soreass.
My overall impression is that since all you really get from Soreass is a constant infamy drain, those bunkers better be worth it to you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I don't buy it. You either had a resource war going on, or you didn't do all the missions that you were presented over the course of the month.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You either had a resource war going on
That's always happening early, if only because you don't have control of the sky. And it's not a reason to not blame the event. I lost several hundred infamy that month due to pure rng.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I lost several hundred infamy that month due to pure rng
If that's enough to tip you into the negative deep enough to trigger the game over, you weren't gonna make it anyway.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>cope post
You only need -1 twice.
1 year ago
Anonymous
He's right though. Loosing to few hundred points in events means you did badly. It's ok, learn from mistakes and it won't happen again. Provided you know what you did wrong.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You're pretty much guaranteed to go negative in a month when the first faction base goes down. That means there's a month either side where you have to stay afloat.
>cope post
You only need -1 twice.
Wrong.
>You either had a resource war going on
That's always happening early, if only because you don't have control of the sky. And it's not a reason to not blame the event. I lost several hundred infamy that month due to pure rng.
This sounds more like a debt problem.
That said, game-ending conditions shouldn't be hinged on random chance. There aren't enough interesting outcomes in the pool of events, either.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Don't you need atleast -500 two months in a row in order to actually straight up lose?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Assuming nothing has changed this should be it https://baturinsky.com/xpedia/##STR_WALK_THE_PLANK
1 year ago
Anonymous
You need to be below -900 to lose by score. Which pretty much requires a multitude of bad events, a bad start location (one of the ones gives like -500), and getting almost everyone killed. And then it needs to happen again the next month.
Not saying I'm doubting you, but either you're misremembering AND you're incredibly unlucky, or you're throwing in the towel rather than actually losing.
Wait....The only way to get more space for scientists in early game Xcom Files is to get 3mil for an HQ? The earliest Lab I see in the tech tree is in fricking Promotion 2!
I remember playing a bit of xcom files, I get some mission and I manage to kill a anthropod and grab early disruptor rifle. Disruptor rifle counted as "cool alien gadget" but it couldn't be researched until I have the lab that you get past promotion 2, but you can't get the lab until you get to promotion 2 so what the frick is the purpose of it even being a cool alien gadget?
I can't take xcf seriously because it's filled with bullshit like this.
I can see how js autists (or people terrified of crackdowns) can see the value in dem bunkers, to me they're worthless. That makes soreass second worthless choice after dumbass, which means there's not much to choose from. Sad!
>What is the vehicle that rides around that looks like it's a mobile SAM turret? Holy shit they crammed a lot of ruffians and troublemakers in it.
it's a convoy
Yeah, it's just what you want as a reward for using pirate melee weapons. An energy penalty. Probbaly better than freakouts from using a ninja weapon or dropping unconscious from using a military shotgun. Shit's moronic.
I think people vastly and I mean VASTLY overrate the penalty from traditional. Let's think about it this way and let's say you have traditional 10 which you probably won't get to, if a mission lasts 10 turns that unit will regenerate 50 less energy.
It takes 14 TU to use a stimm on yourself and recover that 50 energy you'd be missing from traditional. Is this really such a horrible setback? Why are people so afraid of using drugs in this game? Yeah they cost freshness but traditional does give you freshness and you'll be in net positive on average and you won't always have to stimm yourself you're not always low on energy.
The chance is if the description didn't tell you about this on average you wouldn't even notice the effect.
I agree freshness as mechanic sucks and it drives people to do some insane shit, I've seen streamers reload a 5hp wound because that would result in -1 freshness from soft target. Like, really? It feels like average piratez player sees that something uses freshness and this item becomes instantly unusable in their minds.
The question is rather: why do we have to have a penalty for staying in theme. And Dio obviously considers it a fairly serious penalty as evidenced by the fact that recovery rewards are vanishingly rare, and certainly don't come in blobs of +5. Stamina is admittedly the least bad of the three, but why deal with it at all when there's hundreds of weapons you can use instead that don't permanently penalize you?
Dio balances this game to punish people who cheese it and then say it's 'too easy'.
He doesn't balance this game for normal people who just want to play.
Stop exaggerating, at the very most traditional gives you -5 to energy recovery if you somehow get more than 250 pirate weapon kills. If your dude is somehow seriously gimped while having that many kills there's something wrong.
https://xpedia.netlify.app/##STR_MEDAL_PIRATE_NAME
1 year ago
Anonymous
I hope you don't think I won't notice your attempt at deflection.
>why do we have to have a penalty
I have no idea I can't answer that. All I can say about traditional and all other condemnations, they're not essential to your success if you need condemnations to win you're fricking something up in the big scope really hard.
To any unaware newbies, condemnations in the past used to give you NOTHING and I honestly preferred it that way but there's no going back.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>they're not essential to your success if you need condemnations to win you're fricking something up in the big scope really hard
Nobody even suggested this. They're just ANNOYING. Who the frick wants permanent stat penalties for using a weapon they like? You and Dio, apparently.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You and Dio, apparently.
Like I said if I was in charge of the mod I'd just go back to having no bonuses at all because it would avoid bullshit like this. But I did go out of my way once to level up traditional and my 300 kills pirate queen got to traditional 8 and I never noticed the energy penalty from it in normal gameplay. You will probably have more fun playing the game just letting condemnations stack up naturally and not going out of your way to stack something specific.
1 year ago
Anonymous
-5 morale per turn is not inconsequential. Neither is -5 stun recovery. Stamina is by far the least annoying.
do people actually care about freshness? I straight up ignore it and almost never run into problems. I often go into missions with like 1/3 freshness, spam booze and shit and still have no problems and I consider myself an overwatch creeper. Genuinely would always take hp and armor over shit like freshness. The only times I ever notice it is in really long missions which I tend to avoid because they are annoying.
On my last base assault it ran to 60 turns and at the end even with bughunt on i took god knows how many turns to finish because everyone was freaking out losing their TU's every second turn, and those TU's were halved anyway. Just crossing the map to get to the last enemy was an utter pain. And for what? It's a pain for the sake of it. It's like weapon degredation when there's no reason for it (ie. 99% of games with weapon degredation).
1 year ago
Anonymous
Have you tried eating apples or smoking cigarettes
1 year ago
Anonymous
Anon, I'm aware that there are fixes. Thing is, if it's really that trivial then again, why is it there at all? >added a system where you have to eat apples and smoke during combat >it's very piratey >but stop using rum, that's not piratey >also pay your taxes >and fines
You're just making excuses for a pointless system. Freshness doesn't make the game unplayable. It just makes it more of a chore.
>Technological advance is an inherently iterative process. One does not simply take sand from the beach and produce a Dataprobe. We use crude tools to fashion better tools, and then our better tools to fashion more precise tools, and so on. Each minor refinement is a step in the process, and all of the steps must be taken.
do people actually care about freshness? I straight up ignore it and almost never run into problems. I often go into missions with like 1/3 freshness, spam booze and shit and still have no problems and I consider myself an overwatch creeper. Genuinely would always take hp and armor over shit like freshness. The only times I ever notice it is in really long missions which I tend to avoid because they are annoying.
>morality regen >tfw you've been fixing wagon wheels for 10 infamy for too long, so you're bringing a tank and baby nukes to a city raid to ~De-Stress~
Okay I know I'm probably the only one that is (trying to) play Xcom files right now but I'm posting a small strategy guide for the very early game so that people can see it when they search the archives:
VERY EARLY XCOM FILES STRATEGY GUIDE:
Before we begin lets talk about Science. Every research has a bunch of symbols next to its name in the tech tree viewer (press the middle mouse over any research to access it) that show us how many Scientist Days (tm) it takes to complete it. A "." is 1 SD, "-" is 5, "=" is 20, "#" is 100. One scientist generates 1 SD per day he is assigned to a research. So a research that has "==--" next to its name will take 50 SD to complete, right? WRONG. Every time your start researching a technology completion time randomly gets multiplied by a value of 50% to 150% that you have no way to see ingame. That means that if you assign a scientist to research a tech that needs 50 SD it might complete from 25 days earliest to fricking 75.
Now that you know the basics lets start the actual guide.
START BUILDING AN EXTRA HANGAR+PRISON+GYM ON YOUR FIRST DAY THEN BUY AN EXTRA PUBLIC CAR
GEAR: Taser pistol+ammo and then either a handgun or shotgun depending on your units acc.
ALWAYS GO LETHAL ON YOUR FIRST CREATURE HUNT. You MUST get and research a monster corpse early in the game so grab the first monster you kill and gtfo.
RESEARCH:
Chief Accountant Introduction rng event (thanks mod creator)> use all 5 scientists for logistics (50 SD)
Logistics is the most important tech in the game because it will actually let you fricking play the game by unlocking the option to buy PUBLIC/VAN. Why is it important? Because you can use FOUR units per battle instead of fricking 2. After that:
4 Sc. on Medicine (50 SD)/1 on your prisoners(lowest SD first)>Adv. Med (50 SD)> Bio Lab (50 SD). (+5 Scientist space but it will also speed up your wounded timers)
X-Com GIB+Strange Creature Autopsy+Cultist Interrogated=X-Com Summary Report #1>PROMOTION>SMOKE GRENADES
>Every research has a bunch of symbols next to its name in the tech tree viewer (press the middle mouse over any research to access it) that show us how many Scientist Days (tm) it takes to complete it. A "." is 1 SD, "-" is 5, "=" is 20, "#" is 100
That's not vanilla XCF.
The tech tree viewer is in pretty much all popular Openxcom mods. The way Scientist Days work comes from vanilla Ufo Defense https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Research_Technical_Details
Ignore that guy. It's a really good idea. Always have your hangers and access lifts ringed in living quarters, those are where most of your gals will spawn in for base defences.
>How goes your XCOM experience anons?
About to become a lot less tedious
>Brutal-AI 3.0.0
>It is now possible to let neutral-factions and even the player's own units be controlled by Brutal-AI. For the player-units there is an additonal option allowing them to set them to force-search for enemies. Note that AI-control for player-units can be toggled on and off by pressing ctrl+a while one of these units are moving.
Does Brutal AI actually work well with megamods
Yes
Does that mean autoresolve? XPiratez autobattler is not a way I tried playing yet.
>instead of redesigning mods to have less braindead mission bloat, they are incorporating automated battles
sasuga, poletrannies
obsessed
stfu troonyboy
Would that mean that civvies will FINALLY stop running head first into the ayys as if they are trying to achieve Valhalla?
>Best gal gets shot all to shit by bandits, 9 wounds and like 20 health left (I thought they had shitty nightvision, apparently not)
>She proceeds to kill 4 bandits in 2 autofires and has enough TUs leftover to run to medics
Pretty good experience so far I'd say
If there are light sources which illuminate your gals, regular humies can see you just fine. That's why you should continuously switch NV on and off, so you don't get caught off-guard.
Updated OXCE and XCF and everything seems to pop to an eye-raping degree.
Did Files and/or OXCE change the colour palette in some recent release or am I having a stroke?
Yes, 2.8 changed the palette according to the changelog, haven't updated to see it it myself yet.
Big maps and dense buildings wouldn't be that tedious if mass demolition were encouraged or at least not actively punished by the reward mechanics.
Catgirls feel like a ton of care would be put into training them to elite levels only for them to get instagibbed by one unlucky turn.
Are the Hot Pursuits missions worth doing? When is it safe to try to complete them?
>Are the Hot Pursuits missions worth doing?
Yes
>When is it safe to try to complete them?
When you can tank fire and heat.
If you use looter suits it's a joke
Or heavy suits. I beelined them in my current game because I got lucky prerequisities from interrogations. I even got them before researching the trigger (communications) for the burning city missions, lol.
i use agressor outfits early plus some shit like gas mask and carry a fire extinguisher if I want do them early
tbh just running around and stealing some million dollar safes plus some other items is worth
For me, it's Magic Cards.
Is it worth it to give swiftpaws or bodybuilder for catgirls? The latter seems to just spec them into worse ubers and the morale penalty on swiftpaws seems pretty hefty.
I should probably start using some of these.
They're the only food you can eat out in the field without any health/fatigue requirements and they also restore 3 freshness a use! If you have enough apples+meat you can heal a nearly dead gal back to full.
>he didn't rush Chateau de la Mort
Ironically, I did rush it. But only make about 5 a month because I don't need the money/don't have the space for gold bars.
ooo, I never actually looked at the stats. Time to give the gals a healthy diet for once.
>chrysalids can show up in month 1 zombie missions
th-thanks
It depends on difficulty, they go into the same slot as academy drones iirc.
Yeah it was academy outpost. Speaking of which, 3/3 academy outpost quests this game are zombified for some reason this game.
It's intentional, I think. The lore is that the Chrysalid went out of control and zombified everyone.
Have codices changed much since the K-version days or has development moved on to other things?
Don't remember the exact versions, last changes were grey getting modifiable magic books, red having early chainmails and blood ax nerfed, green getting a bit of stuff including gal transformation but having laser replaced with heavy weapon.
Everything cool rapes freshness.
Freshness rapes everything cool.
Why has xpiratez.wtf been down for the last few days?
I'm pretty sure it's been dead for a while. Use https://baturinsky.com/xpedia/
It's an 'upgraded' version of .wtf anyway.
I've never beaten vanilla, should I do it or just go for the mods?
>Like the roman uniform so much I give it to units that aren't going to willingly engage in Melee
Am I moronic?
If you're going to play any of the hard mods do one vanilla run to completion.
>some throwaway ninja mission
>three shipwrecked gals
Thanks for the lunatics.
>shipwrecked guild members in that lava jungle map
>wait inside airbus while the entire map gasses itself
Easiest air sailor of my life
>lava jungle
?????
I assumed lava because it's all black and red in a way that resembles a magma zone somewhat, don't actually know what it's supposed to be just that it fills itself with sleep gas pretty much every turn.
Oh, the haunted forest hellholes.
I don't know what they're called either, but I know what you're talking about.
I miss xcom vg threads with all the writegays and snekposters more than I miss the game itself
/xcg/ brother, you are not alone. Still check to see if R_Briar has updated Home every once in a while.
>Ghoul Town
>fills with gas every turn
>including closed spaces like inside buildings and the craft
What do you mean? I assume Haunted Forests do the same. I have gotten the craft insides go up in flames in the Hot Pursuits map.
I was safe in the airbus in the haunted forest, I don't know if if already open doors close before the gas appears though. Ghoul town I think is only regular smoke, the forest makes actual sleeping gas.
What determines if a unit doesn't stop pathing when an enemy becomes visible? Just had an idiot die by walking straight into a machine gunner.
Running/strafing doesn't stop for enemy detection.
If you run (hold down ctrl and click) or hold shift down while walking then a unit will keep moving when an enemy comes into its field of view
If you weren't holding down shift then the machinegunner might have just reacted faster than your idiot did
>it's a getting lasered by an AMG from across the map episode
is it random when I get captains log 2? I believe I have all prereqs but I've been waiting a month.
The trigger chance is guaranteed if you have everything, better check twice if you missed a topic.
immediatly?
It checks at the start of the month if you got everything and then it will proc the event.
nevermind just got it after 5 days or so
Not that Anon: Doesn't CL 2 count on the Scented Message?
Not according to the script, scented message 1 triggers are research completed Earth's Satellite Network Hulls and Drills Heroes' Blessings Capitatory Tax, first possible month is july 2601, 66% chance to trigger and you must be at least on difficulty 2(john silver)
I gotta add that to the guide book.
What's Scented Message 2's triggers?
Just use this wiki and you can find scripts and triggers for almost everything included in the game files.
https://xpedia.netlify.app/##STR_LFS_002
Okay, so Purple Bloom is more important than just the White Dress and the rewards you get for making a porn tribute to her.
I keep getting four-five months in and my score falls through the floor with no chance of recovery.
are you playing on the newest version? that was fixed and it was caused by n*njas building their bases in these months specifically hitting you with a funky -5000 or something
Speaking of which, do expeditions and other ground vehicles have much of a purpose yet or is earlygame still pretty much just amassing economic buildings and waiting around to get the ability to shoot down UFOs?
various combinations of
undetectable, huge crew for when you unlock them some missions like ground vehicles race, and some have guns to shoot down shit like roving bands of bandits
My latest run has a dumb idea behind it.
Everyone gets a standardized weapon, probably a set sidearm, set heavy weapon, set underwater fricking weapon, or set rifle, pending, along with a knife of some description.
Any unit that performs with distinction gets a unique weapon that only it can carry.
That is a dumb idea, maybe take a break from xcom and play something else for a while?
Been three months since I played piratez.
You can't snipe with thrown weapons though?
Do an unga run, no firing, throwing and melee weapons only.
What triggers the expansion of Rimrider bases? I had one, it didn't take that long for me to have 5 of them. How tough are they, i just got access to laser weapons?
I don't know what triggers them but they do get quite obnoxious, what's inside are like 3 types of enemies, bugmen with no psi defense and purple shield, rogue catgirls with medium armor and heavily armored robots with gold shields and they're all pretty well armed but that's the good part.
I would suggest doing these as early as possible because it's a place to potentially loot nuclear lasers much earlier than you can make them, perhaps it's worth it to just do a hit and run land there kill few people who spawn near the elevators take their guns and just run, early nuclear laser can go a long way.
Nighttime or daytime Highwayman House?
If you don't have night-ops gear, do it in day. Both the stormrats and the field gun itself can out-see you if you're not geared for night.
You can always tell where the gun is even if you can't see it because it spawns with an adjacent ammo crate that you can see at night, and is always in front of the same building. After that it's just a matter of just lobbing grenades at it or launching a fire arrow near it and shooting it with the raygun. In hindsight though day is better because the stormrats having both better NV and night camo is just too obnoxious.
Matter is not spawning where it can artillery fire your ship.
Unless you can one or two shot it, if it can see your ship or has a line of fire to spotter/sniper it, the show's over.
Issue with the gun's NV is more for first timers that don't know the spawn, and if you need to run in front of it due to bad spawns. Terrible for both night and day, but ultimately negligible with prior knowledge. Like a sprinkle on top of the stormrat shitmuffin.
Big difference with night is the gun can't abuse reaction TUs to instagib anyone that attacks it from afar. Also the highwaymen have pretty good guns that make them relevant threats during the day whereas the stormrats only ever have pistols that are mostly nullified by metal armor. If you really want to beeline that 25mm cannon early on you can slowly clear the mission with pretty shitty tech at night, but once you have decent gear it's better to just go daytime and blast the thing with an RPG or a stick bomb or something so the mission doesn't take forever.
>and blast the thing with an RPG or a stick bomb
GAS GRANDE OR MOLOTOWS
>syndicate targets councillor
>syndicate targets military archives
>syndicate targets reactor
>syndicate lab found
>all in the span of two days
just
just stop
Someone doing the mission for the first time blind I don't see any outcome other than someone getting a gal obliterated and either abandoning or team wiping to the gun whether it's day or night. It's a total deathtrap (like most xcom missions)
Workin' on it
Fricking spartans how do they always have perfect vision of you no matter where you try to take cover?
Team vision, and the fact that hitting an enemy reveals you. Never fight them at night.
After becoming quite acquainted with pre-Catgirls Piratez and ROSIGMAballs I kinda want to give XCF a shot. What should be aware of?
Also, what's the XCF relation with FMP?
>hire another dozen extra agents ASAP
>looted weapons that your agency isn't allowed to buy yet will be your bread and butter for a very long time
>snipers and battle rifles are king, outranging cultists and monsters is paramount early on
>capture and study/interrogate everything you can as often as you can, humanoids often have multiple potential researches per unit type, and the money for a live capture can be pretty nice
>by god do not do the undercover "obtain syndicate intel" until you have your shit together, this essentially sparks a war with the Syndicate faction, including powerful base attacks way earlier than you'd usually be worried about such things
Other than that, I've not dabbled in X-Piratez personally but I've generally been informed that XCF is slightly less daunting to get into, so most of the overhaul hard mode autism should be at or slightly below the level you're already comfortable with.
for such cool idea x files are really badly designed
I found most of my main gripes with it relatively easily rectified with Notepad++ and a few hours of experimentation, but yeah, out of the box it has a handful of absolutely WHY.jpg elements that just aren't fun or sensible.
>I found most of my main gripes with it relatively easily rectified with Notepad++ and a few hours of experimentation
tell more what you did
Off the top of my head, I changed it so that if you studied a given normal, mundane firearm (M16, Hunting rifle, FN FAL, etc) you could then buy the ammo for it, mainly because my ass chafed at the notion that regulations were lax enough that I could use looted rifles out of the evidence locker on missions but wasn't allowed to send Mike down the road with 1000 bucks to the nearest sporting goods store and buy .308 and 5.56 to use with said weapons.
Made the van sane to use speed-wise, no reason two rented civilian vehicles, neither of which have any meaningful offroad capability, should have that different of travel times considering 95% of their actual travel time is canonically flying coach on an airline to the nearest city close by the mission.
Beefed up enemy cultists based on their lore, Dagon dudes are supposed to be fearless lunatics according to the flavor text but in vanilla they morale break as easily as EXALT, Red Dawn are supposed to be gene augmented, but in practice are barely any better, etc. I think that last one got addressed in vanilla in the last couple patches, but I haven't checked it out in detail yet.
A bunch of economic tweaks, mostly resulting in early game loot decreasing heavily in value, so less money made in exchange for not grinding my teeth at silly things in the post-mission loot screen. Also some mid-end tier weapon nerfs because I got tired of the OP as shit B.O Autosniper->Turbosniper pipeline.
Then aside from things that bugged me, a lot more time spent on experimental mods made for fun, I've got a half-finished project to revamp prometheans and also allow you to (with difficulty) *make* a natural and differently statted one by using captured mid-tier zombies as a base, combined with a few research and workshop steps. If only all games could be so thoroughly messed with to taste via plain text edits, the industry would be in a better place.
>x files are really badly designed
The best part is that it seems to only get worse with time and even fanboys are starting to hate on it.
You need a live rare animal for promo 2, so check its requirements and look for an opportunity. Usually mongorns are the most common from the list.
Researches feel like a slog compared to piratez, so try to rush 2 early research labs, bio lab and intelligence center.
This is absolutely crucial and you need to rush the proper lab too. If you get lucky and find a lot of money early on starting another base to get extra bit of research helps a ton.
Most missions have a small despawn penalty if you dont attend them, you can deal with most of them by just sending a team of agents and immediately aborting the mission with no penalty, so you can just kill/unconscious a enemy unit, carry it to the vehicle and call it a day.
*ahem*
FRICK Ninja Bases
That is all.
based
post ground zero
I actually dropped a pair of Chinese Dragons, one on each of the heavy turret pairs. Pretty much everything except the back corner of the map is just smoke, but at least that helps deal with Ninja camo.
nice, that's one way to deal with bunkers
You can pull some really danger close shit with Dragons if you're not afraid to savescum it a bit to make sure the angles work. My personal favorite is firing from the cargo deck of a heavy freighter up the grav lift into the stern of the passenger deck. Sometimes the tanks like to camp there, and it pretty much removes half of the actual boarding action. In general, the key is to not be on the same Z-level as your target, since Piratez uses not-quite-circular explosions.
>125 kills
Yeah, I make no apologies for spending the last week alternating between being incredibly fricking mad at this base and savescumming the shit out of it. If I didn't have stasis resurrection coming soon, I'd be fricking livid right now.
>pic
How do I speed up my research in piratez? I am almost one year in with 19 brainers on my main base and another one in my second that mainly does prisoner interrogations, is that a good pace?
That sounds like average maybe better than average pace, you have nothing to worry about speed wise. If you really want to amp up research speed you will want to create a secondary research base or more if you're obsessive but from my experience something between 50-70 brainers is a decent point to stop otherwise you're likely to hit a wall when rng decides to deny you that one item that blocks rest of the tech tree.
If you want a true minmaxing approach then you need to pick grey codex for astrosensorium, farm glamour using bikinis, little bird, v8, slavery or anything that maximizes your glamour and then just have one of these in every base, I've seen some people get up to like >100 brainers and finishing up the tech tree by the middle of the second year but that's extreme end approach and likely they've savescummed shit to hell and back to even make that happen.
That sounds alright for end of year one. You'll eventually have the capacity to run small research teams in all of your bases, but the buildings for those are all over the place, and don't always make sense for the purpose of a base. A Manufacturing base is usually a fairly solid secondary research base, since you'll have stuff like a Refinery and a Surgery Room there just to be able to build specific shit.
Grey (and Gold) also come with the Dream Library, which is a pain in the ass to get the materials for, but has 23 Brainer slots on its own.
You have to balance interrogations with researching important tech. And if you want to completely optimize it, exhaust the quick interrogations first, then go to slower ones, and so on, and research items that are quickly researchable by themselves.
I think the big turning point is unlocking the library and having the economy in place to put them in lots of bases, might be wrong though.
cringe
>he doesn't appreciate classic wojaks
go back
>classic
have a nice day, tourist.
Yeah, classic, back when Wojaks were used for >mfw posting instead of the post-NPC hellscape where attributing them to the poster's opponent caused the eternal degradation of art quality, because if you're going to say "I'm not angry, you're angry", why not tack on "also you're ugly and smell bad"?
Oldschool wojak
>lighthearted abstract emotional expression
Nu-jak
>strawman for spamming threads
Pepe went down the light path while Wojak went down the dark.
Can the dark be defeated?
I would love to go back to better times, before this garbage was born.
Change it yourself then if you're so great.
New relise is soon
is it a N4 or a new letter release?
I think N4, but I don't know how Dio number his versions exactly. I just helping him draw shit.
>aimed x3 at 120% accuracy
damn, that's gonna hurt
THAT SNAP THO
Lemme guess, there won't be any way to make more ammo for those, right?
now lets have a look at that mag size
Pretty crazy, I thought it would just be another meme weapon with a small and odd mag size like 7.
Most plasma weapons are meme tier because by the time you can acquire and use them you're already capable of killing pretty much everything in the game.
should add a round or two to auto and deduct another 8-16%% accuracy, it's too similar to snap
>9x snap for 90% tu at 72%
>10x auto for 90% tu at 64%
More damage variance between shottypes means more potential of getting demolished by an enemy getting a god-turn with it though.
Since I never read the piratez lore stuff I never realized until a couple hundred hours in that you're actually supposed to be the good guys.
>you're actually supposed to be the good guys.
I think that's a stretch you're more like bad guys fighting even badder guys.
Antihero is a dark setting is still a hero. It would be one thing if the government contract was something you were dependent on to survive, but even if your economic output far outstrips your financial needs, anti-infamy actions like slaughtering civvies put you at risk of mutiny, at least in terms of game mechanics.
Honestly the lore is kinda moronic. Like it was written by someone who only has anime and video games as life experience.
Still better than the new xcom, but this is mostly because video game writing is dogshit.
It doesn't take itself very seriously, the whole ninja faction thing for example is just to give the game the pirates vs ninjas 2000s meme.
>It doesn't take itself very seriously
>I think you're reading way too
idk at certain parts there is just way too much effort put in to be just a joke.
like all that shit about empires, duality, earth politics and most of the demon god shit clearly isn't just some half assed joke. Like if it was then where is the funny?
I'm not some irony poisoned moron that doesn't appreciate sincerity so I don't mind the effort to be honest.
Doesn't take itself seriously =/= half assed. It's clearly a passion project, just not a pretentious one.
the boomer tier pirate vs ninjas and wojak shit is 100% half assed though lol
Do you also believe that Warhammer 40k or Starship Troopers (movie) aren't satire?
I feel like 40k stopped taking itself as satire decades ago. Don't know anything about starship troopers.
If we're comparing then early 40k >>>>>> xpiratez easily. Like I get the satirical elements of xpiratez especially with the solar courier and government propaganda, but it's mid at best.
I'm confused why you keep asserting contrarian opinions while at the same talking like a zoomer as if announcing that you shouldn't be taken seriously.
Have you never read a 2000AD/Heavy Metal comic?
>Like it was written by someone who only has anime and video games as life experience.
I think you're reading way too much into a goofy story about moronic mutant amazons.
You might be autistic, and I don't use it as a buzzword or generic insult.
are you le serious
what the frick is this clown car UFO
this isn't even the highest difficulty
>good luck I'm behind 11 cyberdiscs
Solar is known for moronic spawns
>Solar is known for being moronic
fixed
check'd
Could you imagine being the poor shmuck that opened the lander's hatch, only to be greeted by the sound of a baker's dozen giant frizbees charging up their plasma cannons simultaneously? Do you just slowly close the door again and hope you can Loony Tunes your rapidly-evacuating ass back out of there?
>He dosn't carry shrapnel rockets
What is that mod that tells you the direction the discs are facing?
hold ALT should work with any openxcom mod
Oh, thanks
Honestly the only thing that makes me mad is that shit that seems random like the scented messages is hidden behind tech you may not think to unlock.
I still think the captain's logs have downright nonsense reqs, especially 2. Why the frick do I need to know how to make bikinis or maid outfits, on top of rng locked researches?
Meant to gate people from just scanning the tech tree to the bottom and beelining certain branches instead of just researching on a more general basis I suppose. The gameplay implications of a known tech tree and an unknown tech tree are very different.
Except the name of the game is 'read or die' and nothing is really a secret.
If we wanted to be really specific, "read or die" can be essential to beating the game without necessarily being the entire game. Otherwise, why have hidden research criteria at all? Only Dio knows for sure, I'm just speculating here.
If the purpose is simply to obfuscate research pathing to incentivize more generalized research then pretty much anything within a given tech level is pretty valid, could even be done by having RNG flag a set of techs with each save generation if one was to be really hardline about it.
Piratez doesn't have the tech tree viewer?
Things like Scented Message, Bloodied Message, Captain's Log, etc are hidden as far as I know.
Sounds like a c**t move to make long-winded mods that are already heavily dependant on meta knowledge, even more so.
For a turn based game meta knowledge is the main thing that separates it from being solved in a spreadsheet the moment you know the ruleset.
>solved like a spreedsheet
The game is quite hard enough that only the most autistic people can have it solved.
I'm just speaking in game design terms here. Opaque game elements play a pretty necessary role in this genre. Whether a game is too opaque or too transparent becomes a matter of preference.
Except if that was true, Dio would say the online bootypedia was against his design.
He does not.
Because it is not.
The game is random, which provides enough opacity.
It does NOT need to cover up what I need for crucial game progression: the random drops may do that well enough.
I mean, if we were discussing Dio's design philosophy it would surely include anything Dio put into the game, like unspoken research requirements for events, right? Whether we agree is one matter, but I have to assume Dio agrees with his own mechanics.
Dio has been working on this for so long I can't even be sure he agrees with his last patch
I agree there's probably a lot of old stuff he doesn't agree with that are currently shelved because he has other stuff in currently mind.
As far as I know, he said multiple times that he hates tech tree viewer, and option to turn it off was implemented partially by his request. The only reason it's not used is majorly negative player response.
I don't find this is true at all.
Most of xcom's engagement comes from exciting ways to fail and/or succeed on the battlescape, not bean counting and optimization in geoscape.
The game should reward you for doing well by its own metrics, not for reading the json files.
The battlescape is where the highest density of metaknowledge takes place though.
>missions that you have very little information about
>enemies that you don't necessarily know the capabilities of
>maps that you don't necessarily know the layout and features of
>random attack roll outcomes and vague enemy damage values
The geoscape is basically a break time where you can plan things with very little RNG or ambiguity to the best of your ability before going back to the battlescape to be bombarded with unknowns again.
>'read or die'
I find it laughable how if you ever complained on the discord about anything you were always first told to read the wiki but when you point out wiki doesn't have an answer or it's some sort of cryptic bullshit they immediately backpedal to "well uh you were supposed to read between the lines anyway". Some articles require mind reading powers to understand what they frick they really mean.
I can see and accept that, I'm definitely guilty of overreading the tech tree, but...bikinis? Why would I ever research underwear when I have armored cars and gnomes to do?
Bikinis are necessary for Chiller AND drop from a lot of low level captures, so they're not much of a gate anyway.
>scented message 3
>locked behind bunch of magic related stuff
>just to tell eurosyndicate to frick off
Can't you tell the Syndicate to frick off by not taking the deal?
Yes, but that's not my point - you research magic stuff including spoopy death dimension just so you can tell some government that you don't want to do their moronic missions.
IS there a reliable way to get Voodoo initiation?
I'm the one that got chem blossoms nerfed by the way. Back when it was 6x22 or something nuts like that I bragged about killing an armored car by just autoing the frick out of its backside with them. Sorry bros.
>bragged
that is your mistake
i still have trick that let me skip basses defenses and fight field battle instead
X-files or this for first try?
Neither.
Vanilla.
Nah, i think i play enough of nu-xcoms and xcom-like games to skip vanilla.
As you wish.
Pirates and Files both have their shortcomings.
I will present what I feel to be the problem I hate the most with both, and you can decide from that.
Piratez is designed to spite people who say it's too easy, even though those people are savescummers or are playing in a way that is allowed by the game. Only recently has Dio cut back on this at all: some of his game is very much designed for the 'Jack Sparrow' (CBT) difficulty crowd.
Files, on the other hand, has some autistic research tree requirements. Capture everything alive. Everything. Even if it seems useless, capture it alive anyway. You will hate this game if you aren't willing to stun a lot of people or run through enemy fire to bandage an enemy VIP/use handcuffs.
Also do yourself a favour and add showFullNameInAlienInventory: true to vars_XCOMFILES.rul
X-Files
Piratez is for morons
Files.
Do every mission.
Capture everything.
Twice.
Second the 'do every mission'
Even if you just show up and shoot a few guys and leave, the experience is valuable so your operatives and you might get lucky and get a useful hostage near your landing zone
What does that do?
Shows the rank of the enemy on top of their faction in the middle-click view, so you don't have to guess if the enemy you're fighting and/or need to capture to progress is a 'lad', 'goon', 'coordinator', 'enforcer' or whatever, which comes down to memorizing the (hundreds of) sprites anyway.
Just go with what you want, they are both fun, just be aware that they will demand a massive amount of your time if you want to actually end a campaign.
Also that you will almost certainly not successfully finish your first campaign.
That too, it still hurts.
Play unmodded game first, at leas a couple of missions, to really appreciate the difference and get acquainted with it. It's short, so you may as well finish it if you like it enough.
Piratez and files, despite a lot of similarities, play differently. Piratez is overall a better mod, but files is good too.
>fought FIVE star god ships to fend off conversion attempt
>they adopted a zero tolerance policy anyway
>had full coverage and a spy zeppelin keeping watch
Yeah, no, editing my save, frick you.
Isn't that how alien infiltration works anyway in vanilla Xcom? You can't stop it, you can only slow it down by shooting down all the relevant UFOs.
Yeah, but I'm not gonna get fricked out of my home country just because they showed up early in the month.
What's the big deal? One country funding doesn't mean shit, and you most likely get zero tolerance for zero tolerance before the game rolls conversion again. See no reason to fret about.
It's my home country and the star gays were just pissed off I smashed up their shit, frick you. If it were israelite tribe or yuropoors I wouldn't care. It's the PRINCIPLE of the thing.
>israelite Tribe
Which one is that?
Iron Tribe and pretty much europe as a whole. I hate europe.
Probably the one with tribe in the name.
>Send a bunch of fresh loks + 1 vet to bandit camp mission at night for easy training
>And then John was the zombies
Took me fricking forever holy shit. My vet got singer'd out of nowhere halfway through, too, of course.
At least the loot is good
>bandit camp where the bandits are high HP and don't surrender halfway through
God imagine the archer training
so how does the new interrogation thing work? I have interrogation researched, I research a guild engineer but he doesnt give me GUILD ENGINEERING. Do I have to unironically unlocke very single fricking thing from his tree before getting it guaranteed?
Yep, it's just added to the pile of potential freebees. You might get it first go, you might get it dead last. And we both know which one will happen every time.
oh my fricking god, I thought it was get one for free protected, dio you fricking autistic sperg
getOneFreeProtected just means it's locked behind other researches. Once you have those prereqs, it gets tossed into the pile with the rest of them. Does nothing for changing odds of rolling it.
But yes, still shit. Slimmer code-wise compared to the old method, but ass for the player.
On the bright side, I believe you don't need a manufacturing process.
On the downside, I hope you've been capturing people alive to get rid of the useless researches.
I always do that anyway, but it sucks you can't trigger interrogations. Btw what about broken dudes you can find in some ninja missions. Are they in the game at all now?
I think they only exist because dio forgot to remove them, I wouldn't expect them to exist starting next patch.
The core economic techs don't really need any interrogation anyway, so the optimal route is pretty much to mostly ignore it outside unlocking missions (which doesn't rely on RNG) until you have mass produced research buildings at which point the inconvenience of interrogation RNG isn't that big of a deal.
Getting shadowmasters quickly is kind of annoying but experiment victims make that pretty easy.
When I last played I tried to get to guild engineering, that fricker has like 110 topics and I only got it as the very last topic. I hate this change, the last thing the game needed was more rng bullshit in the research tree.
One of my bases got hit by a billion missiles, how do I prevent this shit aside from basedefense? Are the missiles never gonna stop
AA guns/Overcharged radar/etc will shoot down missiles.
If you're playing on Jack Sparrow, stop: it only gets worse from here.
I had an overcharged not enough
Missiles come in 'packs'. IIRC, you need at least three 'attacks' to shoot down a missile swarm.
It may be more, don't quote me.
Guys, I took the hunt party pill and it is great.
Of course it is. Ore ore will piss you off though.
"Ore ore"?
Oh wait, I just realized you're not talking about turan start, ignore.
I'm a weeb so I usually start in Japan when I'm not going to the (ant)arctic to live out my dream of being cold 99% of the day.
I remember the very first time I started playing vanilla Xcom, I put my base in the middle of Antarctica, not realizing the grave mistake I had made until much later.
I've never built one and have no idea what that is
Hunt Party is a very slow craft you can manufacture.
It holds eight infantry and walks to wherever it's going.
You need them to do primal hunts but they're pretty based for any mission of low priority that doesn't disappear when someone is 'sailing' toward it.
The excess of windows on the airbus would not be a problem if they weren't better to shoot in at than out from.
I'm going green this time and I love the worm. Great craft for potshooting much stronger enemies with minimal danger mostly. If only there was a way to turn off the gas at will it would be perfect.
As a Simp for the Green Path,WOrm is my favorite ship.
Yeah I'm actually enjoying green run now. Last time I played green was several major versions ago and it was shit. That bioplasma gun is early game changer.
Green is boring because it's very generic on the battlescape but it sure makes the geoscape easier, the craft weapon plus pachyderm lets you knock down strong UFOs really early.
Camping in ships wouldn't be a problem if the game didn't choose to land you in the shittiest tactical position imaginable surrounded by enemies every single time either.
Never played TFtD before, what mod should I use for my first run?
Vanilla.
So, how many hands do I need as a minimum to deal with this freshness nonsense nowadays?
Take maximum capacity of your biggest troop transporter you use and multiply that by 2, that's the amount of troops you should have in active rotation to not have troubles with wounds, deaths, freshness etc.
...last time I played I did it with 1 starter lunatic.
I wonder how much savescumming that took.
Zero which is why I lost the campaign trying to get to Mars.
Mine still take more offtime being wounded than for refreshment. I have the el dorado outfit on my princess and even with that it's not bad. Just don't spend like twenty turns crawling around the map and you'll be fine.
>Just don't spend like twenty turns crawling around the map and you'll be fine
This seems to be the point of freshness, but my counter is 'design your maps so we don't need to you stupid Black person.' To be fair, bringing more troops means more searchng per turn thus less turnsbut it really gets up my nose when devs start telling the players they're having fun wrong.
I still haven't seen a single person who asked for freshness or thought it was a good idea.
It punishes overtly cautious and passive cucks and rewards assertiveness and risk-taking, ergo it's based.
That's the theory, reality is that you run out of freshness while looking for the last guy for >10 turns and you are only able to find them thanks to bug hunt mode. Because that someone got stuck in a giant fricking maze designed for enemies to get lost in.
I had a lot of fun trying to adapt to having 1 soldier to fight a war with. But it took more turns.
Good to hear.
>bringing 24 units instead of 6 is based risk-taking and assertive
I suppsoe if you were playing tryhard mode and habitually use 20-30 units per mission, this doesn't change much, but then the logical extension is that the game is balanced around tryharding.
Once you get an Onsen you probably have more to worry about wounds than freshness.
If you go into Piratez_Globals.rul you can just turn freshness off. It's referred to as mana.
HA! I've never captured a mutant fish before.
I'm pretty sure aquariums will become a real thing to build sometime in the future, just have to wait for the aquatoids to be implemented first.
I thought the aquarium message was there only to troll you.
If he's going to add even more shit to build he better add another row and column to the bases holy shit.
So I began the path of soul and just molding my units into individual specialties, starting with the Escaped Lunatics.
One's a night Ops.
One's a Sniper.
One's a Smoke Ops/Gas
One's the Stunner.
One is the firegal
And the last one will be the laser/plasma gal
What's your favorite X-piratez themed drink?
For me, it's the Traitor Smoothie
What's in it?
Red Caps, Mutant Meat, X-Grog, Chemicals, and Hellerium
Aw, I thought it was actually a real wienertail recipe.
how do I repair broken buildings? like a ruined large crewquarters
"dismantle" them, and they convert to the functional version.
Seriously? Frick. I've been building a new version over the top.
Sexo?
Gatto.
>600 capitatory tax
FRICK
they don't call it SORE ass captain for nothing
It's not too bad as far as this game's events go, it amounts to a -100k total when you pay the tax back, and 150 infamy isn't too much
You do get workers out of it at least.
Pay the mutie reparations, smoothboi
>Bunker is locked behind one captain type
Man I love this fricking building.
Is there any actual point to picking None of the Above Captain?
You get another chance at different traits later on, IIRC.
I think it's something like no codex? If you select no captain personality three times in a row it leaves you alone and you don't get any benefits or penalties of the whole gimmick.
Is this a bad starting loadout?
I know musket's kinda weak but I can always replace it, even if just with bayoneted musket for kill power.
You're trying to play the wrong game, the best starting loadout is ball bat or handle with molotovs just in case. After beating up a few nurses you should have a good number of cattle prods, which is the best starting loadout when combined with molotovs for killing academy drones.
Best starting loadout is giving each gal whatever their most skilled weapon is so you can get them to competent levels in something asap, in my opinion. Then mass training throwing because it stays relevant the longest with the least tech maintenance.
Muskets are worthless. Use melee, throwing (sticks, javelins) and shotguns as soon as you get them. That will keep you going until you get better guns.
My starting loadouts tend to be just give everyone shotgun and something in the pockets that can counter people resistant to shotguns, knives bombs axes javelins whatever they all work just fine.
Muskets can't hit anything, the ol shotgun you can buy almost from the start is better. You can also use looted firearms, as long as you loot some ammo (and some lasers don't need ammo at all).
Killing everything that moves is usually faster, because after you're 1/3 to half done the mass panic starts. This also solves the searching for last enemy problem.
So many missions put the highest bravery enemy in some building on the opposite end of the map and he won't panic even if you cleanse everyone else.
>faster
I don't care about faster, in the opening months I want to make as much money as possible which means using the cattle prod. Do target practice on worthless enemies like ratmen and bandits, and switch to lethal as the ultra easy enemies get phased out.
I think the best laodout is a pistol in one hand and a 12-TU-or-less melee weapon in the other. It trains stats faster. Your pistol lets you take proper reaction fire and your light melee weapon trains a whole bunch of stats and is more reliable than a shitty early firearm.
Anybody have a clue what mod this screenshot might be from? I think I found it posted in the piratez discord with no context and never could find out more about it
Reverse image search just gives a bunch of screenshots from the base game, of course, so no help there
This likely isn't a full mod at all, probably it's either a submod for something bigger or a mod that never went past concept phase. Maybe you can find it somewhere on openxcom forum but I wouldn't expect you to find anything there.
I had that thought too. Looked around on the forums before but didn't see anything that looked like it might be it back then
Didn't seem to be, at least from a scan of the mods ufopedia. Thanks for the suggestion though
Thanks for the lead, I'll see if I can't find somewhere he's uploaded it or something
Maybe x-chronicles? That has the right font and inventory slots judging by the screenshots.
Sprite is deffenetly by bloax. No one can do as shi y sprites as he is.
Aurora's Song is pretty good
I didn't know what amiga music was before playing XPZ. Now it's a routine part of my musical diet. Shit goes hard
This song once played when some red-eyed brat knocked on my door and threatened me.
No idea what that was all about
>disable moronic mechanics like freshness
>game becomes much more fun
>beat the game easily
>leave feedback for dev about the game
>moron dev adds more bullshit to make it harder
>disable it anyway
:^)
t. moron
Dio is one of those morons who treats gamedev as a PvP match between himself and the players. You aren't supposed to have fun, you are supposed to "lmao get owned" by unfair gotcha traps to appease his ego.
he is seething pole coping with his cultural and genetically inferiority
you can't expect anything good from him
Freshness isn't really a big deal outside of those giga long levels
>giga long levels
yeah
but the giga long levels are just plain not fun and freshness just add another layer of shit to them
Just send slave soldiers on those.
but its still not fun
Unless you're doing a simp run (men only), you're probably not going to have SS capable of handling long missions.
There's zero difference in slave soldiers gained through black market recruiting and recruiting them from slaves.
Technically the male touch route gives them access to a promotion they don't otherwise get, so male touch SS are a bit better. But yeah, it's definitely not a big deal.
Men only with slave recruitment is just harder men only.
Still probably unlikely to have a lot of good SS if you can't recruit them in batches of twenty.
isnt revolutionary training better?
I don't have a lot of experience with the Revolution, I'm not a commie.
The game is balanced around freshness. You can do some amazingly stupid shit if you remove it, and some really annoying units would become crippled nothing burgers.
>The game is balanced around freshness.
Wew that's one way to out yourself as a newbie, freshness didn't even exist in older patches and the game was perfectly fine without it.
Anons will shit piss cry and cum about anything. Freshness is a perfectly fine mechanic and really not that hard to play around.
>and really not that hard to play around.
Sure, until you enter the 5 stage mission with 500 enemies in it in an armor that has 4 freshness drain a turn. Yes I am talking about the new cydonia so have fun playing around that, better hope cigars work in space.
These giant missions have to fricking go, it seems like megamod gays have gone too far off and forgot what xcom really should be. This sucks I'm not playing this patch and possibly never playing piratez again if this is the direction mod is moving to, giant multi stage missions is the last thing this mod needs.
>giant multi stage missions is the last thing this mod needs.
Yeah I agree though I wonder what would happened if I used
and just edited freshness out of the game. Would the missions be tolerable?
Multistage missions present two viable options:
1. Ctrl+D, Ctrl+K
2. Removing 'mana' from the options.
You can die a debugger or live as a hero.
>2. Removing 'mana' from the options.
???
Freshness is described as mana. You switch it off.
>Freshness is described as mana. You switch it off.
Can you explain how to do this? I don't see it in my ingame options if that's what you were talking about.
It's in one of the options files for the mod.
You can edit them like text files, so use Notepad/Notepad++ or whatever.
Modern XCOm is shit. Even Phoenix Point is better.
>Even Phoenix Point is better.
bro....
snakefrickers get out
No you are just genuinely moronic if you think Phoenix Point is even close to NUCOM in any aspect of product quality. Rag on NUCOMs for taking a shit on the old formula all you want, but stop pretending PP is somehow good.
>Modern XCOm is shit. Even Phoenix Point is better.
You are moronic
here
Specifically it's in user/mods/piratez/ruleset, the mana entry is right at the bottom of the file. It doesn't completely disable freshness. I got messages about being unfresh after eating mutant meat and then starting getting TU recovery penalties. There's a setting just below the true/false switch to just replenish it after a mission though. With it on as well it stopped annoying me.
>it's another "your crack team of hardened veterans collapse into hysterical madness because the last enemy is trapped in a wall somewhere" episode
It's why I support the use of debug.
>Freshness is a perfectly fine mechanic and really not that hard to play around.
Rubbish. It's sole purpose is to make sure you play the 'right' way. You shouldn't have to play around it. Nobody complained about it in Long War because it fit the tone that LW was going for in the first place. But since when was Xpiratez LW?
>But since when was Xpiratez LW?
Don't even dare to bring up long war or nucom in their matrix hugbox, they hate it with passion and will tell you how it's not "real xcom" at every possible opportunity.
Oh and fatigue is INFINITELY better system than freshness because there was actual thought put behind it and the game was better as a result unlike freshness.
Yeah fatigue in X2 war of the chosen was pretty good.
>the game was perfectly fine without it
>calls someone a newbie
having your gals panicking 4 turns into a mission is not "fine"
It's not even balanced around it. Bear in mind the defense brigade are the ones who play blackbeard/JS on all their 10+ playthroughs, so they're used to fielding 20-30 units and clearing up in 2-3 turns. Of course they love freshness, it's just a buff to them. And these are the people Dio gets his positive feedback from.
I'm gonna say it.
Xpiratez should start with a higher tech base, and you should start with javelins.
No to both from me. I enjoy rising from stone age shit to space conqueror, and javs are not far from the start of the tech tree to get, so no issue.
Plenty issue.
It's fun once, but on even the third playthrough it's boring asfrick.
What turn is "mid game" "laet game" etc?
Im on week 12 and just started getting t3 units. Other Magic players started to get activated and mine out resources, sabotage my outposts etc.
Im playing as necromancer but i think i fricked something up since my mana and gold income is pitiful. I need some tips
Frick wrong thread, dont mind me, meant to post it in Spellforce thread
>suppressed pistols deal more damage with reactions, and have such a low tu snap shot that they will almost always be reacting, and they're relatively accurate for a pistol
Nice.
Is the 'Captain' one of the Lunatics or a separate 'bureaucrat' who doesn't exist in the game world?
Open to interpretation, though I tend to go with "first Lunatic to hit Mistress rank", and if she dies, then down the rank chain among the Lunatics. If you let all 6 die, then I guess the game kinda says that your early castaways are also gals from the same farm that got separated and lost. All that being said, the fairly recent addition of the captain personality test kinda pushes the captain to a non-unit role, since that doesn't get re-taken.
Is a peasant you recruit from a Wild Girl better than one you buy from the store?
Event/special recruits generally have buffed stats, yes.
They start better, but the caps are the same. They do, however often have unique condemnations that theoretically push them a little beyond store-bought crew.
What weapons frick over the mercenaries? I know they have some vulnerability to being charmed but charm outfits are so slow.
laser, plasma, bio, mind, cutting or mind control these are all effective, don't use piercing they're very resistant to conventional guns
>mind
I've taken to using Demonic Essence as my "frick your armor/red shields" option.
the meridian gun with arcane ammo is a mercenary destroyer
I've only ever seen damage scaling and 'armor piercing' ballistics do anything to mercs without resorting to explosives, the super self-charger (setting them on fire is nice), or running up and bawdting up to them.
>X-Chronicles
How is that mod? I heard about it a while ago. Does it have enough content to make games last a while?
Depends on what they're packing.
Regular merc soldiers and commandos might be hurt by RPGs. If there's a shocktrooper or, God forbid, a hovertank, you're fricked.
>God forbid, a hovertank
Laser shotgun to strip the shield, then the spike rocket. Or just emo grenade.
I've killed hovertanks with recoilless. Main thing is getting to attack it without immediately eating reaction fire.
>How is that mod?
Slow and kinda infuriating and reminds me alot of that one czech game
Your guys are so fricking weak they get mogged by spear chucking goblins on the regular while being unable to hit the broad side of a barn
>that one czech game
Spellcross is from the other part of Czechoslovakia
The game started promising but really dropped the ball half way through the camaign.
>a hovertank
I beat hovertank using dogs to strips the shield and then hitting it with HEAT RPG. But it was at base defense.
>How is that mod?
I really like it. Your dudes start really weak but it makes it all the better once you upgrade to basic muscle wizards.
>Does it have enough content to make games last a while?
Yeah, there are tons of it.
How long until that happens?
Before I restarted I was starting to fight pirates and the best thing I had was the special forces equipment of the country I chose at the beginning
One requirement is getting the terror attack from the feudals and taking some of those prisoners and the other is a strong artifact as a reward from the dimensional gate mission. In my experience, the RNG was really bad about giving you the baron's boys in the past but the dev should have fixed that in one of the newer versions.
>prisoners
You got any tips on that?
The taser seem kinda a crapshoot thanks to the low accuracy of your guys and I dont want to send my squishy guys into melee with orcs and minotaurs (or any melee for that matter)
Also any tips on how to deal with those c**ting outcast mages?
Their shield takes more fire than I´d like and going for melee ends up getting the guy(s) going for it their face blasted off with magic
Sorry man, melee is the best way to get prisoners so you are going to have to do it charm damage works too
Fugg
Last time I tried 3 of my guys in combat armor armed with baton and riot shield got absolutely murdered in one swift stroke by a fricking goblin with a pointy stick they all managed to miss
Guess I´ll have to get used to savescumming again
Oh wait you are talking about Xfiles, just keep using weapons with electric damage and you will get your prisoners.
I´m talking about XChronicles
I´ve never played XcomFiles
I'm sorry, I haven't played it then please specify what mod you are playing when asking a question next time
My bad, I though you were the other XChronicles anon
>smoke actually works
Huh, though it was pretty useless when it came to knocking enemies out and since your own guys just up and collapse after 2-3 turns in them due to low base health I thought them to be pretty useless as cover (so far) and the gas grenades the chinese branch gets don´t seem any better smoke damage wise
>Flashbangs and dart weapons
Don´t have them available yet
Just shoot them and then rescue them.
Smoke grenades (smoke not only makes it easier for the enemies to miss, it also can knock them out or make them panic and the Water shield doesn't block gases unlike the Wind one), gas grenades if you go for the Chinese contract, flashbang grenade launchers for immediate debuffing, stun batons, tasers and dart weapons (these ranged stun weapons won't reliably work against highly armored or sturdy enemies but the mages are usually a different story if you manage to break their shields).
Minotaurs and orcs are tough bastards, you need a whole squad to reliably knock them out even with saves.
>just
With the early game TUs and HP bars it's anything but "just" in XChronicles.
I thought you were talking about XCOMfiles, bruh.
Sorry.
Meridian's with mind ammo (you need to capture a provost first tho) will absolutely shred all of them. Even wand of pain fricks them up pretty badly.
For the hovertanks, plasma+rpg
>New UFOs: Arbiter
Thanks, I hate it.
Z-levels were a mistake.
What was the logic behind letting a braverymaxxed agent hit for more damage with a kukri than a tank-sized heavy gauss and only slightly less than a sectopod?
X files?
no logic, Solar probably thought it was funny
like giving SKS 69% hitting chance because SeKS
So, apparently there are giant fricking metroids in some ocean missions. Easy to kill and I got it done turn 1, but that was a fricking jumpscare.
they have psi anon
they can frick your gals up
Sounds like I was lucky they all spawned right on top of me. Still, I was expecting fish, maybe deep ones, not a car-sized eldritch jellyfish.
Are there any other constantly moving sprites like that? I can't recall any off the top of my head.
I think moving sprites are mostly a tftd thing, hallucinoids, xarquids, bio drones and native to piratez I think hovertanks and cyberdiscs always animate too.
This Piratez thing looks interesting, can I just pick up and play it or is it going to be too much of a struggle? I never played the original XCom, only Xenonauts
Looks like something you need a wiki/guide open for all the time yeah?
Play
The FRICKING
Original
You really want a grasp of the basics before you jump into Piratez, or any mod for that matter. Xenonauts is close, but nothing replaces the original. You need a copy to set up OpenXcom anyway, you might as well, it's not that long of a game. Long War shouldn't be your first experience with FiraXCOM, Piratez shouldn't be your first experience with OGcom.
I don't think anyone should experience L*ng W*r at all.
You'll have an easier time applying a Xenonauts mindset to it than a nuCOM one, but it's still different enough that you should poke some buttons and blow up a few times before seriously committing. I went straight from nuCOM to this, no attempt at playing the original, and it took me quite a bit to acclimate. I still end up scumming deaths away, especially for special units.
Using a guide is generally helpful, as some necessary events and such are locked behind sometimes downright bizarre requirements, but with recent updates there's not too much harm in bumblefricking around at your own pace. And there's usually anons around that can answer questions and provide tips, and I'm always around to dig through the code for semi-deeper answers, so don't be afraid to ask about your bumblefricking.
I have two tech questions:
- Shadow lamp - iirc it is found during Bogeyman swarm mission, do I have to shoot them down or wait for them to land?
- Guildmaster's and Provost's secrets - how do I get them? Before you just interrogated broken VIP but now what? I don't see secrets as possible topics for them.
I don't think bogeyman swarms ever land, but they should be durable enough to crash with midline weapons.
-You have to shoot down swarm without radar and do the mission, the ones with radar always explode
-It was changed so the topic gets added to npc list and enabled with interrogation techniques, meaning you must either deplete the subject first, hope for good rng (not gonna happen) or save scum.
Figured from interrogating Espers, Medics etc. but problem is I don't have secrets as possible topics for guildmaster and provost???
Someone fricked up and didn't give those two their interrogation techs as possible rolls. I could probably whip up a fix minimod in the morning.
Frick, you're right. Game is pretty much unwinnable right now. Maybe I'll tinker a bit with rul file and try to fix it myself. I did manage to fix fartbag extraction that is also fricked in this version.
I thought that's intentional, with guildmaster just being an annoying moneybag. Guess it's a good thing i have a bunch of secret bases around.
Thanks man!
1) There's 2 groups of bogeymen. One with a radar circle, one without. I forget which is which, but one of them will always get blown up during a fight, while the other usually crashes. Protip, gear for fighting at night against things that see better than you.
2) A quick look shows that Provost and Guildmaster secrets aren't actually assigned to the relevant units, meaning you can't actually unlock them. Someone should probably tell Dio.
It was easy enough. Here you go anons: https://www17.zippyshare.com/v/AXY80v5K/file.html
Thanks!
beware of albanian virus
Piratez now has so many paths codexes captain personalities I get confused, so tell me if I want the maximum wiener and ball torture experience what combination should I go with?
>maximum wiener and ball torture experience
Reject the power and No captain personality I guess
Male touch really sucks huh?
Sucks as in bad, instead of sucks as in painful. It doesn't have any gimmick like peasant revolution, and it only has a couple of unique armors and trainings to its name. Gal path ain't exactly better in that regard really, but with gals you can still get slave soldiers with a bit more research, while going male touch locks you out of higher-tier Hand hires.
Everyone can get veterans.
Really? Could've swore it locked you out.
Guess there's frickall difference really, just minor shit. Wish they both got the peasants treatment.
male touch and peasant revolution locks you out of hands and warriors but all routes get veterans
I like Male touch, personally.
But then aside from Isolated Valleys I prefer having SS to Peasants.
Reject power, male touch, dumbass captain. You WILL suffer, and you WILL NOT enjoy it.
what is wrong with dumbass captain
Locks you out of the analytics room, and to get its equivalent (VIP room) you have to go through like 2 or 3 RNG events. Baseline chance for them is ~33%, but one of those events needs onsens or dojos to bump up the chance, BUT they can only happen one after the other and failed rolls have some pretty annoying infamy hits, and that's all you get for the month. So you could end up going over a year without it if you keep rolling bad, like one anon did a while back.
At least, that's how it worked last time I looked at it a couple versions ago. Might've been made less of a ball-twister since then.
It's moronic, both in game and as a concept. It locks major stuff behind rng bullshit.
Reject power, none of the above captain, Male Touch.
On the bright side Male Touch is the only ending where the Gals will have enough loving relationships to reproduce properly.
How do I manage finance early on? I'm not new to xpiratez but holy shit my upkeep is nearly a million a month and I only just started. Hellerium distillation ain't cutting it. I can't realy on selling loot because I only have an airbus.
>How do I manage finance early on?
Mostly by infamy, each point of infamy(score) is 333$ and if you keep unlocking new missions and doing most of them successfully you should be able to cover maintenance through regular income + infamy bonus. The ninjas don't rape your score anymore so this is pretty reliable now.
Alternatively you can just spam plantation farms until your maintenance goes below income but these are a pain to defend.
I keep hemorrhaging infamy because of these moronic random events.
Farm bases pay for themselves and then some, even before you get weed farming. Once you have THAT, they're solidly profitable. It's quite possible to have all your bases constructed by the end of year 1 and be making money at month end.
I can sell these sacks of produce right? Potato sack, leek sack, etc.
They're not secretly valuable like apples.... right?
The potato sack is potentially useful others nope.
Cabbage is completely worthless. Potatoes have a niche (though quantity-hungry) use [much] later in the game, and the others are only needed for cooking food, which does not need mass amounts at all.
cabbage has a use for a transformation but not much else from what I have seen
Also why am I gaining x infamy for killing bandits and hoes and then losing 2x infamy for looting said bandits and hoes?
Do you guys like sewers ?
I don't.
Also I suprised making maps taking THAT long.
Sewers are proof that dioxine is a fricking idiot. Nobody sane could play in one even once and think they were a good idea.
While sewers are god awful they are the thing that makes you think base defenses are horrible thing that should never happen instead of them being free loot delivery. So I'll give him that just for this one mission, all the other giant mazes can go frick themselves.
It's terrible design anon. Punishing the player with tedium is bad civilization.
What the frick are you guys doing if enemies even manage to get to sewers? Base defense missions last like three turns at maximum unless you go out of your way to design your base moronicly.
I fight every enemy on the surface and guard the ladders up from the sewers.
If the enemies have not emerged from the sewers by turn 21, I assume the AI is glitched and debug+Kill.
In many base defenses I can have hangars cleared by turn 2 but someone has already entered the sewers on turn 1 and then I'll waste 10 turns looking for that one last fricker as usually they cannot surrender. Maybe I'm just cursed like that but doing a base defense without doing some tedious sewers crawl almost never happens.
But how do you design a base non moronicly? The sewers prevent you from doing the bottleneck strat so I guess you should bunch the hangars with the access lift?
The holy bunkers, hallowed be their name, will trap the infidels in the hangar.
How do bunkers work? You just build them over a lift?
Build three around the lift.
Basically (assume each letter is a grid square)
H A H A H A
H A H A H A
B L B
B
O T H E R S
T U F F H E
Bases need to much in them for most shit to be worthwhile, in my opinion. If you can build defenses, why not just build more AA guns?
I only like bunkers because they only let you go through one path.
But they're restricted to...what is it, Sore Ass?
>enemy missile takes out the one bunker connecting your base to the lift
not even necessarily a missile, a couple of explosions in a chokepoint during battlescape combat can destroy the base facility
I usually just run a couple dogs down into the sewers for each hanger turn 1 and have them keep an eye open. If they get killed, you know where the guy is and can send gals down. Then again I never go above two hangers in a base, and those that do get two hangers have shit-kicking combat squads in them, so there's less chance of someone escaping below.
>I guess you should bunch the hangars with the access lift
Yes, and put all facilities with animal cages and living spaces next to those so your troops can have LOS on turn 1. If you bother with cannon defences they should line the hangars to have free firing arc right off the bat too. And keep in mind the access lift is indestructible as a facility no matter what you toss in there so feel free to literally nuke it if you feel like it. Oh and the gimmick trap facilities like the flame pit are useless.
>Oh and the gimmick trap facilities like the flame pit are useless.
They can be useful in specifically crafted circumstances, but for the majority of bases they are indeed kind of shit.
But they won't stop anything that can't be stopped by two rookie peasants with shotguns.
>Do you guys like sewers ?
This is what Brutal AI autoplay feature is for
>capturing bandits now makes your strength drop permanently.
Do any of these condemnations raise strength?
yeah check here
https://xpedia.netlify.app/##COMMENDATIONS
Sweet, very useful. I must hit people with hammers and kill them with huge firearms.
Rocket launchers are a pretty easy way for a free strength point.
Also capturing high ranking enemies alive gives you ravager which boosts strength.
frick devil's reef
just don't go there
I kind of feel like the mod's lost it's way. When it started off it nailed the air-pirate theme, but now we're more like, government lapdogs complete with literal tax forms and fines if we do naughty pirate things. We even need permission to live in our super sekrit base.
>When you realize that whole Xpiratez development cycle was just one big social commentary
Also why are we naked for base defense.
It's some autismo dio added because le get caught with your pants down suprise base attack or whatever.
I'd personally prefer if it was just an option. Though getting a Void Palm outfit and stunning everyone is kind of funny.
Wait, so there's armour lying around? And also this is deliberate not just me failing at setup? ffs dorxine.
Yeah its literally just a random chance for your Gals to not be in their equipped outfit and instead be in an outfit from a selection of "home" outfits.
There's a wiki page that shows how likely you are to be dearmored and it's like 15% for most unit types.
>Gals are superior
Ok
>Peasant Revolution
Frick Commies, meh.
>Male Touch
Based
>No Gobbo Uprising
Cringe
wheres the interstellar catgirl alliance/peregrine cult route
In hell with the Gobbo Nurse outfit.
basically starting in california?
Frick, I need to finish this
It's looks like ass.
You still draw better than me.
Cali drops you a five pack of cats like that one drops you five young ubers to start your spying business early, right?
California actually gives you eight cats to start with.
Frick me.
How hard is it to create paper doll avatars? I want to make doggirls and end up in the game in like ten years.
its not hard, just tiresome and time consuming
5 or 8, its not enough. I want all of the cats.
There are actually so many ways to get cats now that getting an all cat crew is not out of question.
Last game I've had so many cats I didn't even know what to do with all of them.
They need to make an ogre route so we can get ogres early.
I think the AT Rifle would be cool with PS ammo
Uber bee hive is borderline useful, I just tested them and they took out an early game dark one raid out all by themselves. Had to flush two guys from the sewers afterwards as the bees kinda just buzzed around after killing everything on sight.
Yeah, if you're doing the farm base expansion strat, Uber Bees are a nobrainer. They also pay you to have them.
>borderline useful
Adding profitability to a farm base is nice.
Pays for the AA guns.
Protip for the beehive, build a burrow in advance and then build it on top of the burrow this will reduce building time just enough so you can start profiting from it a month earlier.
>investigate what I thought was a parked freighter with 1 scout in airbus
>suddenly mercs outta nowhere
>machete and pocket laspistol
>but you CAN kill them from behind
I am become Death, destroyer of those that wander in and out of the empty rooms. I dunno why I'm bothering since I can't use their gear anyway. Maybe one will have a vibro weapon. Or I'll lose a bus.
Frick it I just make my underwater crew do surface missions too. It builds character.
I keep a group of Aqua Suited peasants/damsels around for small ships, underwater and O-G. Gold shields are GOAT for restrictive enviroments, since you're not dealing with conventional guns or explosives.
It's just my homies in Chillers.
I see a lot of people waiting far too long to do underwater missions because they need their infinite uptime when majority of the underwater missions can be done within like 5 turns, you won't even have time to run out of air.
People don't seem to realize is that basic swimming outfits come with XP 20 stat which is highest in the game, it's possible to send a noob gal to a underwater mission and get +40 stamina in one mission, secondary stats for rookies raise at rapid rate if sent underwater.
I just hate removing uniforms. Fussing with inventory.
It is annoying to mess around with armors, but something i learned early in my XPZ days that might help an anon or two out:
If you swap one gal into an armor via the armor screen, if you then right click on any other gals in that same menu, they will swap to the same armor (if avalible) without needing 3 clicks each. Extra pro tip is to just keep as many armors as you need +1 so there will always be one avalible to swap into, even if your whole team has to wear the outfit.
That one I figured out somehow.
Sadly you have to use six bunkers because otherwise there will be paths through the sewers from the hangars or access lifts.
So your base will have to be:
HAHAHA
BBBLBB
* * * B* *
I presume near the bunkers you would want crew quarters or whatever anyway.
Bunkers are resilient so missile strikes are barely a concern.
I used to be like that. Now a pike, some javelins and a bikini is all I need.
Aqua missions give a good promotion, same as infiltration or space. You may want your top men (of all genders and races) to get those.
>Slugthrowers can splash the turret on Ninja APCs
Nice.
Sewers and labyrinthine bullshit was the bane of my existence UNTIL I figured out how to use motion detectors. When holding alt, the interface gains arrows pointing to the tiles that your scanners pinged. Remembering the size of a scanner sweep is 10 tiles in each direction, you can very quickly sweep buildings, tunnels and sewers without worrying about ambush. It also lets heavy weapons like miniguns and hmgs target enemies through multiple layers of wall and fricking mulch them, especially with high powered munitions.
Never leave home without aye-phones once you have them, I like to have a fast flyer to climb onto buildings and safely scan it each turn. Give them a pickaxe and they open the roof up and toss in your bombs of choice.
Call me a moron but i could never figure out motion detectors in any xcom mod nor vanilla
You're a moron.
But so am I, it's okay.
Literally just have somebody use it. See that radar screen that pops up? Slam that bullshit closed instantly, openxcom has you covered. Rather than interpreting the radar screen that you are only shown one time, openxcom interprets it for you and literally points to the targets in the main interface. While holding alt, yellow arrows like the one that indicates your currently selected units will appear in spaces that have enemies that have been detected. Any enemy that has moved any amount will be detected and the detector is perfectly accurate, with the only caveat being that it doesn't specify the targets z-level.
There's so much hidden shit in openxcom, it's nuts
I just now figured out how to make inventory templates, and change the paperdoll's appearance
The laser tommy is such a good fricking gun.
I'll have to put some brainers into it, the Smartgun is starting to show its age for me.
Main thing with the laser tommy: It's got really good accuracy at range for an SMG, and the ability to set things on fire is pretty nice since Fire is busted on things it works on.
What are some good condemnations to grind for if I have a favorite soldier?
Depends on what you want.
Lightbringer gives freshness.
Monster hunter gives armor.
Lady Luck gives Firing but it's hard to grind for.
Lots of kills with the same weapon give boosts to all combat stats.
>Lady Luck gives Firing but it's hard to grind for.
If it's something like files, using vulkan or similar weapon on faraway enemies will max it out quickly.
Could work so long as the enemy is not capable of accurate return fire.
Still depends on what he wants, though, Lady Luck is kinda shite if you want a melee lord.
I always strive to max out the strength increasing ones, always nice to carry more shit and hulk smash. Also the poisoner giving health regen can be a game changer early-mid game.
Don't use pirate weapons, ninja weapons, or WW1/2 themed weapons unless you want permanent -5 penalties to your stun recovery, morale recovery and/or energy recovery.
Thanks, Dio. Between booze being inferior to generic meds, penalties for commiting piracy, penalties for using thematic weapons and the constant slew of 'noooo, you can't play THAT way' nerfs and tweaks, I'm starting to not feel like a pirate captain at all.
New reslies is up boys
N4 says to be saves compatible, that's good since I'm only halfway to school graduation. Gonna update in a few days after usual update frickups are fixed.
Looks like Dio added two space environments:
MUN - moon missions, probably Black Sun shenanigans
IPL - interplanetary, whatever that is, but "It doesn't automatically mean such a ship would be adequate for raiding heavily defended areas on Mars."
>Check out new Cydonia
>There are 5 stages of pure suffering and turret spam
>See pic related in one of the ending slides
Haha imagine if she sits on you, that would be so weird haha
Too small, make her bigger and burry me between her boobs t. Horny Captain
out new Cydonia
are 5 stages of pure suffering and turret spam
do dio hate fun?
i mean he is polish miser so probably
New Cydonia was made by Kato, and tweaked (heavely, since for some god forsaken reason Kato add space marines form 40k as enemies there) by Dio I didn't test it myself, Dio told me that without at least 3 BFG it will be a hell to go trough.
That pic is amazing. Is it available in higher res?
I remember dio sent me a skecth form kato like a year ago, but here you go.
Funny of the game to assume I'll be bringing gals to cydonia.
File size too big.
https://files.catbox.moe/99or3b.png
To be fair vanilla cydonia was pretty much a joke and going through it without a single death was the average there, a bit disappointing for a final mission.
It would be great if she stepped on me and i died instantly
>Cydonia is now 5 stages
I'm really gonna have to work for that no-longer-vanilla ending, huh?
That's just the titular character from gay Captor Sakura, the Wyrm Tamer.
Looks like New Feature: Captain Ranks is locking stuff behind end of month rank, mostly contacts
>gotta grind every single mission so I can get a high rank now
t-thanks dio
How much for highest one? 50k?
Dunno, but unless you want to unlock everything it's not necessarily: Crime Lord unlocks Civilization and Contact Mercs, Sky Terror has Stardom, Death Mogul nothing lol, Air Dictator Human-Reticulan Cooperation and Mastermind Market of Wishing
Ah, market comes so late it shouldn't be too difficult at that stage. I still have 2 faction bases in my game and didn't touch ninjas at all. No problem then. I wonder if it will unlock by itself after upgrading, pretty sure I had one air dictator in this run already.
Air Dictator is at least 25K.
I've seen Death Mogul at over 15K, I want to say.
It's already 4.01 lol, gonna wait it out until it settles.
This always happens and I tend to wait like a week after a fresh release until all the small bugs and fixes have been applied.
I know the menace crafts are useful but I hate them.
I'm going to REJECT THE POWER
I find almost all of the codex stuff to be irrelevant shit. Some are probably more useful now that Crazy Hannah is a much harder contact so its harder to access craft ammo. Gold gives you a nice early boost in cash and spacesuits I suppose, but now it's harder to get space missions.
>do dio hate fun?
I think it's pretty obvious at this stage.
I'll be honest, I love the Codex shit, but I don't like the menace. It's a big open mouthed fricker (mercenaries love that) that should be good for fighting and intercepting but you can't replace it so you can't let it get shot down
Yeah the Menaces are kind of dogshit. I've given alot of thought to it and El Fuego or Fortuna are the best ones, they can go to the widest range of missions. Use a better ship for high risk assault missions.
Bonaventura has a high capacity which has merit but I feel like that's praising it for giving me lots of soldiers to all have die in one reaction rocket.
Someone who updated check if dio fixed fartbag research in n4, please. And if not maybe some matrixgay let him know about it, thx.
I meant extraction not research, sorry.
There's also the borked researches which anon here
kindly fixed. Plus some busted calls to incorrect sprites which caused errors (and were repaired by a guy on the forum).
Were the fixes included in the new version (along with the fartbag extraction)?
Is this the fartbag thing that was missing? I've literally never done this project so I don't know what it's supposed to look like. Guildmaster and provost looks fixed as of N4.0.1 but I can see a small bug where holo spikey smg is missing its description.
In last version the formula uses wrong, non existing item, like in this outdated pedia: https://baturinsky.com/xpedia/##STR_CELATID_TERRORIST_EXTRACTION
The Neophyte Boot Camp was also displayed as a text string, instead of its description.
>Ogres limited to one/month
Ayo what the frick, Dio?
I just checked this and it is one per month it doesn't stack or add up so if you want your ogre army you have to actually buy one every month you can't just wait let's say a year to buy 12 at once.
So, how's that X-Fantasy mod going anyway? I don't remember what version it was at when I last played it.
Didn't we used to have a pastebin that had a bunch of advice for what to do in Piratez? Did it get so outdated we stopped posting it?
https://controlc.com/479b38f3
Yeah there's this but it was written years ago, it's outdated but there's still a bunch of good advice in it for things that haven't changed much since then.
We should probably make a new one.
For example, researches to grab for obscure shit like Messages and Captain's Logs
Odds and I use Brutal Ai to autobattle my way to victory in Xcom files
Even and I use it in XPiratez
May the Dragons protect you, anon.
The Purple Lady has spoken.
I, for one, approve of Purple Lady taking over the thread.
She should have more gifts for the Captain
>Brutal AI
>half the fricking enemy commit suicide with grenades on turn 1
I'm not sure they're more intelligent. They like to hide more but I still mow them down like morons.
The Brutal AI makes AI want to pre prime grenades but Piratez got rid of the 'won't explode if it's in your hand' feature.
>but Piratez got rid of the 'won't explode if it's in your hand' feature.
Heh
>The Brutal AI makes AI want to pre prime grenades but Piratez got rid of the 'won't explode if it's in your hand' feature.
For all grenades? I thought only some of them were immediately dangerous when primed.
If you don't see a timer when priming an explosive in piratez, it's safe to assume it will explode in your hand as soon you click end turn.
Ok I'm back from extended testing of letting Brutal AI control every unit in the battlefield, including my own. While the enemies will actively try and move around the battlefield instead of playing hide and seek with your units like vanilla, BA is not very good in controlling gals. Due to Xpiratez being a melee focused game at the start the AI just makes all your gals rush the enemies without even hiding them behind any walls or anything. Now that wouldn't be that important early game, however the AI WONT USE BANDAGES OR ANY HEALING which lead to your gals dying by bloodloss. I tried to give my units bandages on their off hand at the start of the battle but even if they have them on their hand and there is an injured ally near, they will instead opt to search for enemies. So after all that atm a full AI battle campaign in XPiratez isn't possible.
I'm going to try AI Xcom Files now since its more "normal" (ranged focused) since it might actually work properly now. Still worried about those injuries though....
Give the feedback on openxcom forum, im 100% sure that the dev will respond to those problems since he is very active in developing his mod
Okay it seems that putting any sort of melee weapons on your units will make them suicidal, so if you want to use melee weapons then Brutal AI will just think your units are zombies and just move them towards the ayys regardless if they can survive or not.
>finished the tech tree
>gayOps Auto-Sniper Rifle still eclipses pretty much every other general purpose weapon against anything but enemies specifically statted to be effective immune to kinetic damage
What is even the point of having 341 different guns if you're only ever going to use a dozen of them throughout the game?
Variety.
I use mosins as my general small arm even though there are better options.
I mean this in a "why would you balance the game like this" sense.
Honestly the earlygame feel of Files where you're still playing as some FBI shmuck reassigned to Kodiak Island to look for Bigfoot for sleeping with your bosses' daughter is the most fun part of the game. When you still have to scrounge and scavenge and pray that your two mags of AK ammo and a 60yo old Soviet grenade will last long enough to take down that Reaper.
"why would you balance the game like this?"
I dunno.
I just prefer 'we have lots of weapons even though most of them aren't meta' over the 'we have three types of gun and we're going to pretend this is a realistic setting'.
>going through the openxcom forum for XP
>You can unlock unique stuff and events if you use the right combination of personality+codex
What the FRICK I can't believe the "canon" personality for gray codex is Dumbass Captain and Lazyass is the red codex
If you are talking about chaos saint that's not unique, it's just a shortcut to these events through deliberately picking a personality that is polar opposite to your codex.
>it's just a shortcut to these events through deliberately picking a personality that is polar opposite to your codex.
Wait, so what are the "correct" personalities then?
Opposing personality gets you the opportunity for sainthood.
If I wrote this down right:
Lazy lacks Might, the Red Virtue
Soreass lacks Pride, the Gold Virtue.
Jackass lacks Faith, the Green Virtue
Dumbass lacks Vision, the Gray Virtue.
Lazyass gets angry at the world and decides to go blood for the blood god.
Dumbass is the only one who would choose to reject the power since you can't know about the gnomes or anything else.
I have added the requirements for SM1-3 to my hand codex for Xpiratez, and have added the requirements for CL1-2 to it as well.
If you ship things to a new hideout with no storage space, it disappears. Goodbye, rocks and capitatory taxes.
>Captain rank
Does that just give you a flat debuff each month or is it only the month you get it?
The infamy penalty is a one time thing.
Oh. Good.
Truth be told I use brutal AI since the 'team comms' feature makes the AI more likely to charge out of hiding spots to swarm you, rather than waiting in a fifth floor closet.
I want to start using the slower crafts in my Xpiratez runs, where can I see in https://baturinsky.com/xpedia what missions can't expire when a craft is heading towards them and which can?
Piratez_Factions.rul
What exactly am I supposed to look for, the only mission parameters are:
useTable: false
executionOdds: **
startDelay: ***
randomDelay: *0000
iirc by default the mission doesn't despawn when targeted, unless
despawnEvenIfTargeted: true
is set
>despawnEvenIfTargeted: true
Well that explains why my cntr+f didn't find it, I was looking for "expire","end" and other bullshit like that, thanks.
Never trust anything to be simple in coding.
Even when it is, it's just an attempt to lull you into a false sense of security.
>new pirate patch
>prime grenade
>*clink*
hehe
>early drop of ol rifle
>early mutant bounty hunt for suppressed pistol
So my peasant squads are equipped for half the game already
Can you buy ammo for them if you research them?
Suppressed pistol is a bounty only thing and thankfully its research gives you ammunition.
Ol Rifle I think you need merchants.
Remember when you could just make your own basic bullets. Slayer? Sure! PS or EP rounds? No prob! Lead? Uhh...
No. I think I got into this mod in the Ls or the Ks. Point is, basic manufacturing of bullets is before my time, I'm pretty sure.
I really wish we could.
Being able to make your own bullets would be the easiest way to ease logistics: just having a few runts endlessly working on another set of mags.
Rifle Manufacture basically let you make any basic bullet. now you can't do that and a lot of weapons are useless because by the time you can buy, say, Commando Pistol ammo, it's not worth using, and you can't jsut loot rare rounds like that. It also meant that getting dead lucky with 2 early LACCs meant you could actually use one after researching the other. But that was too fun so it had to go.
does the AI mod make melee creatures actually try to charge you en masse instead of dancing around and (presumably) try to spend your reaction fire before doing anything?
If you disable AI omnisience then yes, they try to find your units.
even the base OXCE do this for leeroy now, for example zombies in Files charge you from across the map instead of running in circles, as long as individual zombie sees you
>gave pikes to my gals because why not
Sure they're inaccurate but frick me they're good.
Pointy sticks are seriously underappreciated, javelin + spear combo goes a long way and not just for underwater missions.
My only regret is that lances can't be used to make a phalanx, with someone crouching in front and you thrusting over them.
The next best thing is creating pike walls when fighting melee monsters, when they'll try to charge you will hopefully reaction fire and pikes drain time units making them stop dead in their tracks and leaves them open to melee attacks on the next turn.
I do pikes in front with swordsmen behind (or the pikemen have swords in their backpacks).
just keep some dogs close
barking is life saver
>penalty at adjacent range.
Keep 'em.
>let the enemy try to frontal dodge
Can I interest you in a shotgun, sir?
What does 'Extra XP' mean? Like what does the number translate to?
bonus secondary stats (TU, stamina, str), the % is taken from the difference between the cap and current value for the stat
>Ogres aren't female oni
Immeasurable disappointment
Nothing makes me savescum faster than a grenade falling in-between 4 gals, then detonating, killing 3 and inflicting 9 fatal wounds to the fourth
DATS XCOM BAUBE I also savescum but only when my craft/items are destroyed
Tbh grenades are bullshit and game would be much better if they were very rare
Would the game be better if the craft was abstracted to spawning "offscreen" and you got to manually place yourdudes in some deployment zone along the edge of the map?
Your fault placing 4 gals so close together.
Both valid reasons to savescum.
If spawns were like the temple raid where you spawn in a big square, it'd be a lot better. Most crafts suck.
For years now I've been a strict ironman player, the only time I will ever reload a game is when I'm reporting bugs to make sure it's actually a bug. I'm starting to think I'm just making the game unnecessarily more frustrating than it needs to be but on the other hand I feel like if I savescum I cannot possibly lose so what's the point of playing if I know the outcome of every battle.
For me it's balanced approach, I avoid savescamming during missions, but if it goes poorly I reload and skip the mission.
How much fun is Chaos Saint challenge? Thinking about being lazyass with Red Codex.
Go find out.
>Go spend 20 hours irl finding out
You'd think that maybe asking other players would be more appropriate
I've never even finished a regular run post personality update I cant help you
As far as I know all it does is kickstart witch quests. You have to deal with them much sooner than you normally would. And you get some free recruits from time to time.
I've heard there is a strategy where you deliberately go chaos saint and start in thebes, some of those witch quests can be trivialized by aqua suits and the loot you get can outweigh any potential downsides.
It doesn't happen until year 2. You have time to prepare. At least that was for me in n2 when i did that.
How do i get the research Martydom?
>First month
>Omnivender event
>Mystery box
>sell it for 700k
i got like almost 4 brainers for free thanks to a rng event.
First six months of the game are a wild rodeo of rng.
Not if you pick Sore-ass
What does that do to help?
Not him, but the text says that "you avoid any foolishness that could ruin your day due to excess randomness (for good or worse). "
I've been Soreass for nearly a year and never seen it.
https://baturinsky.com/xpedia/##STR_CAPTAIN_SOREASS
There are a bunch of random events that get disabled when you are a soreass, look tbrough the list for "FALSE ?Sore-Ass Captain?" for them.
This actually cuts off a good chunk of positive events, remember all those "knock knock here's a random visitor" events? Soreass removes all of them and nobody can wander into your hideout for free, it's strictly a downside.
It makes most of the random events do nothing instead. Your captain won't be tempted by mysterious doors, visitors will be shot til they go away etc. Randomness is reduced for better and worse. Of course the anon said he got the box in the first month, and might have been before the personality test, so shrug.
Well the events are leaving me with a consistent overall loss of infamy but maybe that's better than dealing with the blocked events.
Well yeah they do that sometimes. Events are not enough to deal a critical blow to your score imo. They have higher potential positive value vs the negatives. You can just play Sore-Ass if you REALLLLLLLLLY hate the RNG.
Well your opinions are wrong, because my previous campaign ended before June due to two negative months, one of which was 100% down to the events nudging me down to -20 infamy for the month. And that was also Soreass.
My overall impression is that since all you really get from Soreass is a constant infamy drain, those bunkers better be worth it to you.
I don't buy it. You either had a resource war going on, or you didn't do all the missions that you were presented over the course of the month.
>You either had a resource war going on
That's always happening early, if only because you don't have control of the sky. And it's not a reason to not blame the event. I lost several hundred infamy that month due to pure rng.
>I lost several hundred infamy that month due to pure rng
If that's enough to tip you into the negative deep enough to trigger the game over, you weren't gonna make it anyway.
>cope post
You only need -1 twice.
He's right though. Loosing to few hundred points in events means you did badly. It's ok, learn from mistakes and it won't happen again. Provided you know what you did wrong.
You're pretty much guaranteed to go negative in a month when the first faction base goes down. That means there's a month either side where you have to stay afloat.
Wrong.
This sounds more like a debt problem.
That said, game-ending conditions shouldn't be hinged on random chance. There aren't enough interesting outcomes in the pool of events, either.
Don't you need atleast -500 two months in a row in order to actually straight up lose?
Assuming nothing has changed this should be it https://baturinsky.com/xpedia/##STR_WALK_THE_PLANK
You need to be below -900 to lose by score. Which pretty much requires a multitude of bad events, a bad start location (one of the ones gives like -500), and getting almost everyone killed. And then it needs to happen again the next month.
Not saying I'm doubting you, but either you're misremembering AND you're incredibly unlucky, or you're throwing in the towel rather than actually losing.
Wait....The only way to get more space for scientists in early game Xcom Files is to get 3mil for an HQ? The earliest Lab I see in the tech tree is in fricking Promotion 2!
bio lab and intelligence center gated behind creature autopsy and cultist interrogation
I remember playing a bit of xcom files, I get some mission and I manage to kill a anthropod and grab early disruptor rifle. Disruptor rifle counted as "cool alien gadget" but it couldn't be researched until I have the lab that you get past promotion 2, but you can't get the lab until you get to promotion 2 so what the frick is the purpose of it even being a cool alien gadget?
I can't take xcf seriously because it's filled with bullshit like this.
>Xcom Files added Freshness but its called "Sanity" now
Thanks, very coll, I love it
Unlike Piratez, not all missions drain san. And the ones that do that aren't big battles don't drain it that much.
I can see how js autists (or people terrified of crackdowns) can see the value in dem bunkers, to me they're worthless. That makes soreass second worthless choice after dumbass, which means there's not much to choose from. Sad!
Worse, they keep you from building extractors
what's more cancerous, black lotus HQ, or syndicate HQ?
syndicate
just use proximity bombs in lotus
All men and gobbos going to Cydonia boys.
pov me and the boys landing on mars
What is the vehicle that rides around that looks like it's a mobile SAM turret? Holy shit they crammed a lot of ruffians and troublemakers in it.
>What is the vehicle that rides around that looks like it's a mobile SAM turret? Holy shit they crammed a lot of ruffians and troublemakers in it.
it's a convoy
Does negative energy regen from condemnations stop at 0 or can it push regen into the negatives?
any recovery can and will go to negatives if you stack it up enough
So traditional kind of sucks. Huh.
Yeah, it's just what you want as a reward for using pirate melee weapons. An energy penalty. Probbaly better than freakouts from using a ninja weapon or dropping unconscious from using a military shotgun. Shit's moronic.
Well, you also get it for the flintlock rifle, one of the best early snipers (two shot mag aside).
I think people vastly and I mean VASTLY overrate the penalty from traditional. Let's think about it this way and let's say you have traditional 10 which you probably won't get to, if a mission lasts 10 turns that unit will regenerate 50 less energy.
It takes 14 TU to use a stimm on yourself and recover that 50 energy you'd be missing from traditional. Is this really such a horrible setback? Why are people so afraid of using drugs in this game? Yeah they cost freshness but traditional does give you freshness and you'll be in net positive on average and you won't always have to stimm yourself you're not always low on energy.
The chance is if the description didn't tell you about this on average you wouldn't even notice the effect.
>they cost freshness
>a unit with low freshness will panic, berserk, and pass out
I wonder why people are afraid of losing freshness...
Just eat apples bro
I agree freshness as mechanic sucks and it drives people to do some insane shit, I've seen streamers reload a 5hp wound because that would result in -1 freshness from soft target. Like, really? It feels like average piratez player sees that something uses freshness and this item becomes instantly unusable in their minds.
t. not a Syn and not wearing heavy armor
The question is rather: why do we have to have a penalty for staying in theme. And Dio obviously considers it a fairly serious penalty as evidenced by the fact that recovery rewards are vanishingly rare, and certainly don't come in blobs of +5. Stamina is admittedly the least bad of the three, but why deal with it at all when there's hundreds of weapons you can use instead that don't permanently penalize you?
Dio balances this game to punish people who cheese it and then say it's 'too easy'.
He doesn't balance this game for normal people who just want to play.
Stop exaggerating, at the very most traditional gives you -5 to energy recovery if you somehow get more than 250 pirate weapon kills. If your dude is somehow seriously gimped while having that many kills there's something wrong.
https://xpedia.netlify.app/##STR_MEDAL_PIRATE_NAME
I hope you don't think I won't notice your attempt at deflection.
>why do we have to have a penalty
I have no idea I can't answer that. All I can say about traditional and all other condemnations, they're not essential to your success if you need condemnations to win you're fricking something up in the big scope really hard.
To any unaware newbies, condemnations in the past used to give you NOTHING and I honestly preferred it that way but there's no going back.
>they're not essential to your success if you need condemnations to win you're fricking something up in the big scope really hard
Nobody even suggested this. They're just ANNOYING. Who the frick wants permanent stat penalties for using a weapon they like? You and Dio, apparently.
>You and Dio, apparently.
Like I said if I was in charge of the mod I'd just go back to having no bonuses at all because it would avoid bullshit like this. But I did go out of my way once to level up traditional and my 300 kills pirate queen got to traditional 8 and I never noticed the energy penalty from it in normal gameplay. You will probably have more fun playing the game just letting condemnations stack up naturally and not going out of your way to stack something specific.
-5 morale per turn is not inconsequential. Neither is -5 stun recovery. Stamina is by far the least annoying.
On my last base assault it ran to 60 turns and at the end even with bughunt on i took god knows how many turns to finish because everyone was freaking out losing their TU's every second turn, and those TU's were halved anyway. Just crossing the map to get to the last enemy was an utter pain. And for what? It's a pain for the sake of it. It's like weapon degredation when there's no reason for it (ie. 99% of games with weapon degredation).
Have you tried eating apples or smoking cigarettes
Anon, I'm aware that there are fixes. Thing is, if it's really that trivial then again, why is it there at all?
>added a system where you have to eat apples and smoke during combat
>it's very piratey
>but stop using rum, that's not piratey
>also pay your taxes
>and fines
You're just making excuses for a pointless system. Freshness doesn't make the game unplayable. It just makes it more of a chore.
>I have to understand gold to make booze
>I have to understand raiders to understand bees
2deep4u
>Technological advance is an inherently iterative process. One does not simply take sand from the beach and produce a Dataprobe. We use crude tools to fashion better tools, and then our better tools to fashion more precise tools, and so on. Each minor refinement is a step in the process, and all of the steps must be taken.
An amusing thing you can do is if you max out traditional, gal of steel, and use charmy dancer, you can give a gal+11 to her base armor.
Monster Hunter can't hurt if you're going to minmax.
do people actually care about freshness? I straight up ignore it and almost never run into problems. I often go into missions with like 1/3 freshness, spam booze and shit and still have no problems and I consider myself an overwatch creeper. Genuinely would always take hp and armor over shit like freshness. The only times I ever notice it is in really long missions which I tend to avoid because they are annoying.
For me it's a non issue but as you can see here some people really care and hate it.
Is seduction/bad touch ever worth it?
bawd outfits are too slow.
Bad touch is dogshit but power of seduction is one of the best ways to capture high ranking vips in power armors.
This is my starting Cali Base, say something nice about it.
You put the crew quarters next to the access lift.
No.
ok thanks i deleted the post for being a moron
Please leave your posts up when you're moronic so others can learn from your moronation.
Archive does not discriminate and his deleted post is there.
People who need to learn from moronation don't know how to find the Ganker archive.
Which is optimal, you dirty min/maxer.
What the frick is Maid Outfit actually good for peasants?
Nothing, it's just there if you're a madman enough to send peasants into a mansion invasion.
It doesn't give + Combat Stress like a maid outfit for Gals does, so in my head that makes it good.
Can I counteract negative morality regen with low combat stress?
>morality regen
>tfw you've been fixing wagon wheels for 10 infamy for too long, so you're bringing a tank and baby nukes to a city raid to ~De-Stress~
Okay I know I'm probably the only one that is (trying to) play Xcom files right now but I'm posting a small strategy guide for the very early game so that people can see it when they search the archives:
VERY EARLY XCOM FILES STRATEGY GUIDE:
Before we begin lets talk about Science. Every research has a bunch of symbols next to its name in the tech tree viewer (press the middle mouse over any research to access it) that show us how many Scientist Days (tm) it takes to complete it. A "." is 1 SD, "-" is 5, "=" is 20, "#" is 100. One scientist generates 1 SD per day he is assigned to a research. So a research that has "==--" next to its name will take 50 SD to complete, right? WRONG. Every time your start researching a technology completion time randomly gets multiplied by a value of 50% to 150% that you have no way to see ingame. That means that if you assign a scientist to research a tech that needs 50 SD it might complete from 25 days earliest to fricking 75.
Now that you know the basics lets start the actual guide.
START BUILDING AN EXTRA HANGAR+PRISON+GYM ON YOUR FIRST DAY THEN BUY AN EXTRA PUBLIC CAR
GEAR: Taser pistol+ammo and then either a handgun or shotgun depending on your units acc.
ALWAYS GO LETHAL ON YOUR FIRST CREATURE HUNT. You MUST get and research a monster corpse early in the game so grab the first monster you kill and gtfo.
RESEARCH:
Chief Accountant Introduction rng event (thanks mod creator)> use all 5 scientists for logistics (50 SD)
Logistics is the most important tech in the game because it will actually let you fricking play the game by unlocking the option to buy PUBLIC/VAN. Why is it important? Because you can use FOUR units per battle instead of fricking 2. After that:
4 Sc. on Medicine (50 SD)/1 on your prisoners(lowest SD first)>Adv. Med (50 SD)> Bio Lab (50 SD). (+5 Scientist space but it will also speed up your wounded timers)
X-Com GIB+Strange Creature Autopsy+Cultist Interrogated=X-Com Summary Report #1>PROMOTION>SMOKE GRENADES
>Every research has a bunch of symbols next to its name in the tech tree viewer (press the middle mouse over any research to access it) that show us how many Scientist Days (tm) it takes to complete it. A "." is 1 SD, "-" is 5, "=" is 20, "#" is 100
That's not vanilla XCF.
Wait, it is.
I'll be damned.
The tech tree viewer is in pretty much all popular Openxcom mods. The way Scientist Days work comes from vanilla Ufo Defense https://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php/Research_Technical_Details
When is annihilator armor getting an EVA variant I have a faceless kink and I want it satisfied
Ignore that guy. It's a really good idea. Always have your hangers and access lifts ringed in living quarters, those are where most of your gals will spawn in for base defences.