>"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be."
>also, you should be a necktie and pin with the symbol of the bloodiest, cruellest regime imaginable
Actually think GW need to think long and hard about it.
On one hand, they say these things, give Sigvald they/them pronouns, paint more miniatures with female features or dark skin than before, do the typical corporate "politically correct" speak.
Then on the other, it's cutesy art of killing-machine Space Marines having coffee on the Community page, it's plushies and Funko Pops, it's nu40k where "good" guy £50 plastic characters who are "fixing the Imperium" do kayfabe fighting with £100 "pure evil" daemon primarch kits.
So GW is saying these things and being more politically "tolerant" than ever, but then at the same time is almost glorifying the Imperium both in-game and IRL more than it ever did under Tom Kirby in more grimdark times where everything was grey and you definitely couldn't buy "Daddy's little Space Marine" infant clothes.
It doesn't excuse the right-wing glorifiers of the Imperium, drawing the Emperor with Trump's head or whatever, but it feels like GW are giving them more rope than ever by painting it in such a way.
What are you fricking rambling about?
How can GW expect people to stop glorifying the Imperium and other 40k factions particularly, especially unsavoury political groupings they have tried to distance themselves from previously, when they are the Imperium's biggest normalisers and cheerleaders through their merchandise and fluff?
Yeah they're actually quite smart designs lel
>How can GW expect people to stop glorifying the Imperium
They don't. They will work both ends and every angle if it makes money. Then they will cry more to distance themselves from anyone who tarnishes the brand.
Agreed, they look sharp, I'm holding out for a Mechanicus pin though.
You can like evil, fictional characters and factions without confusing fiction with reality and doing weird shit, a bunch of normies like Vader and don't support genocide as a solution to problems, sadly some people are too moronic to understand that, and I'm not only talking about the schizos who do that shit, but also the gays that can't understand it and try to cancel companies and creators over fiction. GW says that shit only for them to shut up
>with the symbol of the bloodiest, cruellest regime imaginable
It's fiction, mate. No one actually died.
>It's fiction, mate. No one actually died.
But when I say that about the holocaust people get mad!
Dont particularly care, but that tie actually looks pretty good.
"I'm here for the job interview. You absolutely don't have to worry about me needing paternity leave"
GENIUS
That's not fair, I took a few weeks after the birth of my wife's son to help with her return to work
Blessed trips. One for her, one for the kid and one for the buck.
Imagine paying someone who isn't sick for labor that isn't performed.
lel
autist moment
>right-wing glorifiers
This is a meme, that's all it's ever been. Its also completely irrelevant to the genuine issue you pose, that gw is cucked, and its only a matter of time before the lore loses its last shred of credibility and interest before it RIPs
>there is merch for the empire and the sith
>there is merch for sauron and mordor
>there is merch for sylvanas and the horde
>there is merch for syltherin
>there is merch for helgan from killzone
>there is merch for house lannister and targaryen
Do i need to go on? Companies like money. Consumers like cool villains and anti heroes. This isnt new and groundbreaking. No one gives a frick about some moral implication. Its make-believe.
>helgan from killzone
Unironically though they were entirely justified in the conflict, and the only thing that makes them "villains" is that they picked the evillest looking aesthetic they could.
That and the plans go genocide the other guys that blew up in their faces
Basically this.
"I like the cool logo" does not equate to "I think the imperium's xenophobia is very cool and good and applicable to real life racism"
arguably it's a bit fricked but people like their fiction and, for the most part, understand the separation of it from reality.
Those who act like it's wear 40k things makes you super evil either can't separate fiction from reality or have spent too much time dealing with serious buttholes who happen to be into 40k and are now excessively wary of 40k fans.
I think most of us have encountered some fandom that pisses us off to the extent that we can say the second will sometimes become reasonable.
If you were, for example, at McDonalds and someone walked in wearing a Rick and Morty shirt around the time of the meme sauce debacle.
Other than that? It's just a shirt or whatever.
>Those who act like it's wear 40k things
Those who act like wearing 40k things
Do I have dyslexia or some shit
OP is too moronic to separate reality from fiction.
HelGHAST, not HelGAN. And even their aesthetic isn't entirely their fault: it's a cultural holdover from before they adapted to their planet's toxic, irradiated hellworld atmosphere. A world they were exiled to by the ISA at that.
I used to say the only winning move GW had was to stay the course with blatantly ignoring the outside world, because the moment they acknowledged the massive dissonance between their franchise and [current year] sensibilities was the moment they would become wholly full of shit as there was simply no way to reach a compromise between the two.
It’s both validating and infuriating to see that prediction was correct.
Yet having said that, although it’s comedically flagrant in its contradictions, is it actually all that different from any other megacorp bending the world over while claiming its your LBGTQABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP+ best friend?
GW was always full of shit, it’s just attained another genre of pageantry for it to continue shitting up. It really hasn’t actually changed much in of itself beyond trying to mimic the virtue signaling endemic to modern consumer culture.
Really, if anything I blame the fanbase for being so easily placated despite GW’s blatant contradictions being so out in the open now. It’d be really easy to call them on their bullshit, but I suppose it’s not as easy or as fun as going after individuals who can’t hide behind relative anonymity and walls of stacked cash.
Just stop buying shit from them.
You won’t.
>Just stop buying shit from them.
I am what /tg/ calls a secondary, I haven't collected GW minis in over 15 years and actually tossed out my dark eldar long ago (they were shit anyways). I just pirate 40k vidya and pirate the occasional Chris Wraight or Peter Fehervari BL book (the only good writers there).
Every time I think about maybe getting back into it now that I have more disposable income and free time, and think "man, AdMech are cool, I'd like to build an army" I remember their "you will not be missed" thing and say ok, I guess I still won't do business with them.
If you dont want to give them the business, just buy only recasts and pirate all the books?
that's what I do now - recasts, 3D printing and torrent all audiobooks. I won't be missed so I don't open my wallet.
It's never been about just diversity and inclusion. For some reason, the current goal is to force you to celebrate the alphabet people in all facets of life. Acceptance isn’t enough. They're so desperately insecure that they don't just want you to include them. They want you to make sure you make everything about them.
I stopped, I also see why it's hard for people to stop, personal investment, I'm the lore, in the looks, in the systems, you spend all that time learning that shit buying into it, jumping ship gets hard, but many have said before, it's like being I'm an abusive relationship, it's so easy to look ar every positive and desperately downplay the negatives "look he released angron, its so cool, he does care!"
The key for me was when I realized the game wasnt actually fun to play and thay codex creep wasnt a bug, it was a feature, so I quit, moved to other games, other providers.
>spoiler
I actually have. I can't bring myself to paint GW products anymore because I despise the company more with each passing day and no one sells secondhand models in my. Plus ebayBlack folk basically want retail new prices for used shit with awful paintjobs
GW you can do better
Living under Chaos is objectively worse though
What's the HDI on daemon worlds?
Depends on who's running it. Slaanesh and tzeetch i can see being more developed, Nurgle would just leave it at the level it was found at to then degrade, Khorne would basically be hercules/xena levels of post-apocalypse.
bump
yeah just imagine a hoof stamping on a human face forever
ESG, check it out. Basically Gramscian cultural hegemony through economic incentives
>>also, you should be a necktie and pin with the symbol of the bloodiest, cruellest regime imaginable
Making socialists seethe is always morally justified AND good business.
Are there any xenos neckties?
Not that im aware, I wouldnt mind a dark eldar themed black or dark purple one though if they are kept as tasteful as these ones.
Xenos can't wear neckties if you remove their necks.
I would not wear that pin because I know some idiot will report me to HR thinking it's a neonazi symbol and then I will have to explain 40k to my boss without making myself look bad just for him to tell me to not wear it while at work.
>giant corpo doesn't actually have a moral stance, just wants to milk both sides
Oh lawda say it aisso!!!
>Globalist capitalist corp says the good words to get their BlackRock score up but doesn't do anything
Wow who fricking could have guessed
Can i buy a tea cup for the cruelest bloodiest horriblest most eviliest regime x10000
Not really. Those are precious family heirlooms, you can't just buy them in bulk.
Tea cups are a no, but standard Soviet faceted glass is an STC worthy design.
For people who sperg on and on about how 40k is satire, you guys sure take it seriously.
>idolize vader
>don't support genocide
I whole-heartedly disagree, if you think you can truly do both of these things then you are incredibly shallow.
If you truly understand the character of Darth Vader and still look up to it then you would truly believe that large numbers of deaths for the right cause are just statistics.
On the other hand if you truly do value all sapient life and are capable of understanding that character then you would despise the idea of him on a very basic level, that is a monster in the form of a man and it holds true evil in it's heart.
Frick! was meant for
>understand the character of Darth Vader and still look up to it
That actually makes my point easier to make, the whole "look up" part, when talking about fiction you can 100% like a character or faction without looking up to it, this is due to how you don't need to look into fiction too deep, or even have a relationship beyond "it looks cool and is badass, so it makes me entertained for a time", of course you can always do those things, but you don't need to, you can simply ignore some of the bad things they do and enjoy the good (cool) ones because nothing bad was actually done, no one was actually hurt, the people on Alderan never suffered because they never existed, so I can just ignore it and still like the character because his cape looks cool (randon example, I don't really like Vader much, just used him as an example because of his popularity), is it shallow? Yes, it definitely is, but that's the thing, you can be shallow with your relation with fiction if it entertains you, it doesn't need to define your relationship with reality, or even with other fiction.
This i israelite think and it is appropriate that your pepe looks like it could be wrapped up in a israelite flag.
>it's fine to blindly support something as long as you are ignorant of what it is beyond mere aesthetics
You know what this is? "I was just following orders" Same fricking mentality.
Ignorance is no excuse to put something you should despise on a pedestal.
>putting on a pedestal
>idolizing
>looking up to
>inspired by
All those things are not the same as liking something, that is the whole point on it's core, fiction doesn't need to define or even influence your virtues and morals, emphasis on the "need", you can like and be inspired fictional characters because they reflect things you belive in and relate to you, but at same time you don't need to, you can like a character that is entirely different than anything you stand for, for any reason you wish simply because they don't actually stand for those things, they do not exist, they were created by someone who a lot of times created the exact opposite as another character in the same universe and made them interact with each other, this might also reflect the author view on things, or it might be meaningless to them as well
Look at the world around you today, what do you see? Now sit there and think about what I have said.
(You) and the rest of the israelite thinking sheep like you are a big fricking problem for this world.
Hm, I forgot this pepe cries at the end of the gif, just ignore that part, I wanted a comfy looking one
mate this is like getting pissy about Harry Potter. grow up, do real politics, stop shitting up the board.
If it's bait, good one, you got a You have fun
OP it's fictional you stupid homosexual. Nothing is being normalized or glorified.
>the bloodiest, cruellest regime imaginable
Lol, you're kidding right? The Imperium are fricking amateurs.
Never seen that green triangle before
Symbol of the Interim Coalition of Governance from Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence. Basically space!Khmer Rouge but with technologies and numbers which could unironically curbstomp everything in 40k.
>Khmer Rouge
>but with technologies
So it's masturbatory drivel pretending to be smart, gotcha.
>Sigvald has They/Them pronouns
Please tell me this is a joke.
Also Sigvald is literally corrupted and rotting inside kek, quite fitting
It is a joke, but that doesn't mean it isn't true.
how long will it take progs to realise Slaanesh is a metaphor for degeneracy and start seething.
its been years, they really are slow
It cannot get through to them no matter how apparent it is because it still represents them on some spiritual level and they will continue to revel in it no matter how cruel, inhumane, monstrous and degenerate it becomes. Same can be said for Imperiumgays that cannot comprehend "cruelest, most bloody regime imaginable" and start sputtering about agriworlds and holding back the tides or some other homosexual butt stuff. Same breed, same mental illness that is so cognitively corrupted it can only set itself apart with its own conflicted facets with pedantry.
oh you are anti-40k kun. I see you have adopted the sjw-marxist tactic of inserting your bullshit half way into a post because you no know no one reads it. Genuinely laughing at the lengths you go to over a fiction wargame.
Kek
How far we have fallen.
Since when were people so moronic that these kinds of disclaimers are necessary for a fricking roleplaying game. It's like having a disclaimer
>warner bros does not condone police brutality
at a start of a cop movie featuring arrests of black people.
At least 27 years.
This one was from the AD&D 2e revised PHB's intro.
Meanwhile the Goblin Slayer Manga is unashamed of pandering to the same people who read Asanagi and goblin rape bad end manga even though Goblin Slayer kills them by the cartful.
>Gobbos are bad, look at them raping women.
>Hey check out the pixiv r-18 tag and watch them weak wommenz and hahaha Goblin Dik go sploosh sploosh
Isn't this actually a really insulting jab at trannies? I remember back before trannies were really a thing, calling an effeminate guy "shim" or "shem" or however you want to spell the portmanteau of 'she' and 'him' was a common schoolyard bullying tactic to imply they're a girlyboy. I swear I've also seen old TV shows use it as a derogatory slur for trannies/crossdressers.
i want to recreate the Imperium irl
>Company that sells stuff makes stuff to sell
>More at 11
are the ties 100% silk at least? I can imagine the price is ridiculous
think about it, even down to memes or the "TikTok Shove A Banana In Your Nose Challenge" it's all about showing other people.that you're up to date and compliant. Using the shitty single person they, knowing and using all the new Black person words, doing whatever #BLM acronym online as it comes up to mindlessly worship criminals, it's all a compliance test. You're invited to chase this carrot forever and the punishment for stopping is becoming alienated and isolated. It's all an elaborate parade to glorify the industrial system.
second time saying this in this thread. this is all hyper cringe. you are talking about toys. this is like getting worked up about Harry Potter . Engage with real politics and leave the hobby as something fun you dweebs. This is all likely bait anyway.
It's not our fault lol
We're not the ones who turned this into a political battleground
Funny you should mention Harry Potter, I recall the Left being really upset that JK Rowling hates trannies
>rightoid pretends he has no responsibility for his actions
shocking
but you could just not engage with it?
you're wholly missing my point?
Harry Potter isn't a "political battleground" it's time-wasting unending back and forth that distracts from political matters, eats away time you might have to do meaningful things in your community and distracts from the shit books.
tg isn't shit tho.
these threads ruin it. just ignore them. they suck so fricking bad.
>Burn the Heretic (anyone with a different political allignment than mine)! Kill the Mutant (trannies)! Purge the Unclean (AIDS-ridden homos, so all of them)!
Also I hate aliens (foreigners).
Yeah, GW has had this problem with 40k basically forever (really early Rogue Trader, when the Emperor was explicitly conscious and evil and Chaos literally didn’t exist didn’t, but that’s about it).
when was the Emperor ever conscious and evil? stop making shit up you utter homosexual
>when was the Emperor ever conscious and evil
Horus Heresy series lmao
Yeah ok so its bullshit BL secondary headcanon.
the HH series was written after 40k was established and is just trash
The Emp isn't supposed to be evil according to Priestly.
It's all about business, it doesn't need to make sense or follow logic.
The chaos tie actually looks okay.
Also James will say literally anything if he thinks it will get people to shut up and buy plastic.
Your insane ramblings almost sound coherent. You remind me of a psych patient I had to transport once. Get better, anon!
Dilate homosexual
>give Sigvald they/them pronoun
wait what?....
hey its almost like they're a corporation trying to make money
Idiot, they say that to get twitter off it's back.
In reality they want to be able to celebrate their fiction.
No Chaos player is actually evil no matter how many (tacky) pins they wear.
Tau players of the other hand...
>blue Imperium
>red Chaos
GW kneels to the Chad Legions
No lie, the word bearers should be the main villain legion.
not gonna actually read what you typed
please try to avoid getting actively upset about some shitty merchandise that no one is going to buy anyway
how exactly did we go from "they are making 40k themed neckties" to whining about gay people again
I am really glad that I stopped being a reactionary
Because some people are convinced that the idpol smokescreen is the real agenda and the shit going on behind the curtain is the distraction, so they'll derail any attempt at addressing issues and think they're sticking it to the man.
>We have always been at war with eastasia
It should be against the law to reference or quote 1984 without having actually read it
Wheres the sign that he never read it? Its explained in the book that the constant changing news announcements are meant to be practice tests for how easily you reprogram your brain to believe bullshit.
>Wheres the sign that he never read it?
Obviously he's the one who has not read shit. Trannies always gaslight when you bring up 1984.
Dude, there is literally nothing more English than the Old School Tie. Turning up to a meeting with the wrong tie on can quite literally tank your career, as any Harrovian at an Eton luncheon can tell you.
>drawing the Emperor with Trump's head or whatever
Reminder that the first people to do this were trying to lampoon Trump as evil and despotic but people thought it just made him look cool so it caught on. Sort of like how "fake news" was originally a term levied against Trump until he co-opted it, or how "my body my choice" has become an antivax dogwhistle.
>depicting your opponent as a 12' Chad Thunderwiener in golden armor with a flaming sword to make him look bad
They really didn't think that through, did they?
They keep portraying Russians as orks having a zoggin good time in the war, so they kinda suck at creating propaganda that doesn't make their opponent rad as hell.
>They keep portraying Russians as orks
Regardless of the the side I gotta appreciate the craft that went into this thing, cannot have been easy
They weren't the first to do it, the trump edits had been around Ganker forever
They despise traditional masculinity, so the worst thing they can make you out to be is traditionally masculine.
how do you do, fellow MAGAs?
They're also 100% of the "meds"/"you are a schizo" posters. They pathologize others because they're pathological themselves.
who are you referring to?
I'm wearing this to my sister's wedding.
Indeed you are quite right about the pathologizing. They do that a lot to 40k fans.
>100% polyester
garbage
>buying merch of a villain is different to unironically agreeing with their views
Shocker
>[corporation] panders to both sides in the name of profit
>for some strange reason, this confuses the OP
Hey now Gay Black folk from outer space was a classic.
this site is becoming worse and worse as the more intelligent people stop coming and we are just left with btier people and deranged leftists.
Wow, you've figured out that everything depicted in this fictional wargame is fake, that wearing an Imperium pin is about as meaningless as wearing a Led Zeppelin t-shirt, and that Games Workshop mostly just wants cringe posters like you to stop associating with their brand. Any other insights you wanna share with us, professor?