>humans are a young but promising start-up race
>elves are agile, graceful and intelligent
>dwarfs are stocky grim scots who like beer and gems
>orcs are stupid and rough brawny greenskins
Any overdone RPG tropes that make you instantly lose interest in a setting?
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>setting's main church/cult is very clearly Christianity inspired
I don't mind your typical pious paladin trope, but come on it's a fricking fantasy world, you think you could change it up a little? Give it some flavour instead of generic monotheistic "source of light" stuff.
I'd like to see fantasy do a religion that resembles Islam, the closest i can think of is the Qunari and the Qun
Oldschool Magid the Gathering used to have a lot like that. White cards included your typical christian paladins and knights and light of god etc, whereas black had the evil, arab version of that (Erg Raiders for example). They even had a card called Jihad, but unsurprisingly they don't allow those cards anymore today because MtF is pozzed-up woke Black person-inclusivity garbage now.
Jihad was a white card though, and only a slightly better version of Crusade anyway.
Jihad was a White card you stupid troony homosexual. Lots of Arab themed cards were. have a nice day instead of larping as an oldgay.
>the angry rightwinger returns to shit up the thread
>implying hating trannies is exclusive to the right
"hating trannies" is. There are a shit ton of leftists and communists who are just indifferent towards them and the LGBTQ community but it's another thing to have an actual hatred for them
Stop hating trannies.
I wouldn't mind them if they weren't so fricking vile and manipulative, grooming little children or ruining franchises with their incessant woke / SJW pandering. If it was just another kink and alt-lifestyle, I wouldn't care, but at this point they're a fricking nuissance and actually a threat to national security (USA's military has been compromised like hell because of those homosexuals). So no. I won't stop hating trannies, because they're an actual evil.
There are some trannies that are just “troony” live their life.
Judging all of them is unfair to the ones which aren’t a problem. Since the “worst” (depending if you believe it to be wrong) thing they do is dress up in women clothing.
Leftists are promoting child grooming and reality horror shows like jazz jennings.
Leftists are promoting troonyism as a lifestyle and destroying the country but trannies benefit so the ones that speak out against it are few. Just like blacks.
If you're not one of the trannies and blacks profiting off the corrupt system, speak out against it or stfu.
The US deserve to be destroyed and I will happily piss on it’s grave.
It won’t die because of trannies though. It will die because capitalism as it is right now is utterly volatile and unsustainable.
Get fricked chud
The only reason the US economy is in the shitter is because they are printing money like it grows on trees for a bunch of poverty tier communists who are leeching unemployment
Try again but this time with a military industrial complex worth trillions and tax dodging global companies you fricking bootlicker
I am amazed that transgenders still have a homeless problem considering how often they live inside your head rent free
If i wanted to watch a autistic argument between a moronic wannabe nazi and a moronic wannabe communist i would go to reddit. This is a thread about video games not your own meme ideologies, both of you shut the frick up and leave.
Not a communist, just not a victim of US propaganda
Most of LGBTQ doesn't like trannies. gays in particular hate them with a passion and are digusted by them.
Calm yourself - are you “troony” cause a stir?
Transgender and homosexuality is not mutually exclusive and in fact see significant overlap. Most transwomen are lesbians and this homosexual themselves. Some people get mad about this and claim to be lesbians but they are lying because if they were lesbians they would have sex with transwomen.
I know it's not that much different, but I love sun-cult related shit, even if it's just a paladin of the sun or something cliche.
I don't know anon, if you never delve paste your own planet and discover what's beyond it, praising the sun seems pretty sensible. That shouldn't be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
But then paladingays will complain not getting the fantasy fulfilled
There's plenty of Sun Cults which aren't remotely similar to the Abrahamic style, though. You have things like Inti and its architectural obsession, and lays out entire cities based on the Solar zenith. Or the cult of Ra and its focus on its daily journey across the sky represented by life, death and reincarnation of the God.
There's a lot of different aesthetics you can borrow, even for a simple monotheistic Sun/Light god. It doesn't have to be all restricted to Catholic churches, nuns and priests.
The sun has been worshipped by almost every single religion in history with different level of prominence in the pantheon.
People write what they know.
Especially in CURRENT YEAR wokegays have ruined any chance for you to get something inspired by more exotic mythology or history out of fear of getting cancelled.
Or they hire Diversity hires as writers and then it will be shit anyway.
Welcome to the new catch-22 you helped create.
I don’t think his issue is sun cults, but rather generic friendly church of light and healing pseudopopchristian stand ins when it could be more interesting, giving a few real world examples for ideas.
For example an underground, light sensitive race may view the sun as a great evil power that burns them and keeps them from the hellish surface. Glorantha trolls are this way: human hell is their heaven and when the sun was killed and went to hell it drove them out and to the surface.
>Humans are human, pretty much controll everything
>if elves aren't in ghettos, they're basically Indian wanderers that are permanently assmad at humans
>Dwarves are super political shitflingers with a strict caste system
Dragon Age Origins unironically did all of these races the best, except for Orc.
But dragon age elves quite literally live in ghettos.
He said if you illiterate.
dragon age elves literally live in ghettos, though
>Catfolk are furries
Completely uninterested.
People who catalog and think about "tropes" are so fricking midwit. The complaints about the cliches come up more than the cliches do, goddamn narrative hipsterism.
The whole creatively-bankrupt gaming industry works on tropes you bafoon. Not a single modern RPG has any truly original ideas left and simply copy the basic ass D&D template for world building. It's fricking dire because it really shouldn't be this hard to come up with some new stuff, but because video game productions these games cost a fricking fortune to make, they want secure returns on their investments, so they go with the most safe possible way of making money.
The human race works on "tropes" moron, it's called Monkey See, Monkey Do. Get over yourself, shit would be incompetent no matter what because most people who want to make video games for a living are morons.
I don't mind standard race tropes as long as something interesting is done on top of them. Too many games will build their setting entirely around proprietary lore, but the lore will only involve two or three genuinely interesting elements and everything else will be bog-standard. I think that, ideally, either all the lore needs to be interesting, or the stereotypical bits just shouldn't even be questioned or talked about and should remain background details.
The bigger problem I have is the number of games that don't even try to do anything more interesting than stock archetypes with their worldbuilding. Pillars of eternity, for example, has humans, elves, dwarves, strong tall guys from a tribal culture (Polynesian half-orcs), halflings (but they're tribal and hairy), and godlike (the Mary-sue class).
All of these other than the Aumaua (who are too close to just normal Polynesians) are well executed in pillars 1, but by the same token, we should expect that they could just as easily have engaged with more dynamic or interesting race ideas that require specificity and context to even make sense, like the Dunmer in morrowind, whose entire culture is so wrapped up in their environment and history that you can't really explain why they do half of the shit they do by saying something like "oh, they're basically Chinese/Mongols/Arabs/Polynesian/etc".
What's worse is that pillars is the best at this of the recent crop, most other rpgs just slap together some basic b***h tabletop tropes and leave it at that. And the ones that aren't fantasy tend to just have all u humans, all of the same culture. Disco Elysium had great worldbuilding in the background, but the result was basically a slightly askew version of the modern world, which was great for stuff like Harry liking Disco communicating significant information even without context, but meant that the game wasn't really straining to achieve anything within the actual realm of fiction.
Best settings with playable bug people?
I think an underdone trope is scantily-clad angels or angel-like beings.
Pretty much the Golden Saints and Dark Seducers from Oblivion’s Shivering Isles plug-in.
how does every thread end up talking about trannies and politics
Humans are ruled by lick kings and necromancers whose short lives will end in eternal servitude in the undead armies
Dwarves are xenophobic isolationists who have lost most of their splendour to Orcs and a pointless war for extinction against dragons and giants
Elves are seafarers from archipelagos off the continents who engage in trade and piracy with the other races.
Orcs are coal and blackpowder industrialist warmongers engaging in war for slaves and resources with the other races and each other, particularly what remains of the dwarves.
>Any overdone RPG tropes that make you instantly lose interest in a setting?
Zoomers who dont have opinions of their own but regurgitate reddit and youtuber-tripe.
>>humans are a young but promising start-up race
is that ever even the case? humans are always the most spread out and successful culture in every fantasy world. elves are dwarves are all dying in their mountain forests or something.
Let me guess, you ignore racial crime statistics and think your "pibbie" is cute
Where do you think all the half orcs are coming from?
>ugh i frickin hate tropes!!!
is there a more midwit, intellectually immature opinion to have?
>is there a more midwit, intellectually immature opinion to have?
The opposite "if it's not tropes, it's bad" is equally worthless.
>is there a more midwit, intellectually immature opinion to have?
I guess disliking the same 20 narrative that get regurgitated over and over in videogames because devs are too creatively bankrupt to create an original narrative that has something to say instead of being a ripoff of another tolkien ripoff makes me a midwit and intellectually immature.
yes that is literally what i just said. thanks for elaborating
>something to say
Yeah, this is super important to a role playing game. Hearing what the writer has to say about some shit that's been said elsewhere, totally creative.
Definitely more creative than not even attempting to craft something with personality because they know that are hordes of lemmings like (you) who are happy to eat whatever shit gets shat on their plate as long as it reminds them of Tolkien or DnD.
Let the industry burn and all failed writers hang. Go with God, young fantasizing fool.
You never even read Tolkien.
And you don't know anything about D&D.
The hallmark of a lemming is being unable to form your own opinion and relying on people to you think are smarter to form it for you.
People like you should be retroactively aborted due to advanced brainrot.
You're mixing aesops with political propaganda.
>has something to say
This is what's unironically wrong with modern fiction. Moralizing or subverting, not just wanting to tell a great story or create a new modern mythos or contemporary saga. All cynical idealism and no sincerity.
A dying civilization has nothing of value to say.
>A dying civilization
So all of them?
No. >:(
>humans are a young but promising start-up race
>elves are agile, graceful and intelligent
>dwarfs are stocky grim scots who like beer and gems
>orcs are stupid and rough brawny greenskins
All these but with a smiling muscular Russian guy.
>humans are slavs
>elves are asians
>dwarves are indians
>orcs are islanders
How mad would everybody be?
Sounds cool.
>elves are the master metal workers and live secluded in the mountains
>dwarfs are nature worshipping, boar riding angry hairy squats that lives in the jungles
>humans are primitive ooga boogas that hunt giants and giant animals and live on the frozen tundras
>gnomes are the technically advanced race of the planet, having great cities fueled by fey magic
Rate my OC donut, Ganker.
When will there be
>Humans are the oldest and experienced
>Elves are young and ugly
>Dwarves are tall and live in the sky
>Orcs are extreme pacifists isolationists
Mechanics>Narrative. Can we get the ability for players to be creative with the RPG part before b***hing about the fluff?
You can run an RPG without any mechanics at all. Why don't you fluff your brain with some birdshot?
Wrong board bro, we talkin' vidya here.
>humans
>pointy ear humans
>short humans
>green humans
no wonder they are races
where are other sentient species
give me rpg with flying magical sentient dolphins
There was an Interview with Bernhard Hennen, one of the largest and most sucessfull german fantasy authors. Essentially, he got big by writing about typical tolkin elves and fake vikings. What he said was, people who read fantasy want fantastical stuff... but this fantastical stuff should feel familiar. So medival european setting + core fantasy races with some changes here and there. Because thats what the majority of people want. He tried to change it and got the sales numbers. Add gunpowder and firearms into your medival fantasy settings? You lose thousands of readers. Have a east asian setting with historically accurate character names? You sales drop. The more "unique" you go, the more readers drop your work. Thats just a simple fact of life (or should I say, business). And, frick me, the guy was totally right. D&D, Warhammer, Warcraft, Dragon Age, almost every big successful fantasy franchise falls into the standard-fantasy-with-minor-variations-category.
Thats why you get european medieval fantasy + core races again and again and again. It sells. Its what people want. Go niche, go broke.