PALBROS??????
https://twitter.com/themimegogo/status/1750591419469959665
The fact that there will be people who unironically think this proves a fricking thing when the guy straight up admits to stretching shit just to make it fit is hilarious to me.
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i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
Its meh, the funnier thing was when AAA devs were seething at Elden Rings UI, that was funnier because its so much a random thing.
qrd on the elden ring thing?
Look at AAA UI, they are all standardized according to some stupid logic, it looks terrible and they all look the same. There were a bunch twitter AAA ui devs who keep complaining abiut how Elden Ring UI wasn't optimized according to their stupid rules (no minimap, shit everywhere on screen, menus having that stupid sony style UI). They just keep seething about Elden Ring UI and it was finny because its such a random thing to get mad at.
god, corpo UI designers are so fricking subhuman and that's unfortunately a thing in the entire software dev world
Elden Ring's UI is pretty much inline with a ton of openworld rpg's, although to a more skeletal extent.
What you're thinking of is some devgay saying the UX was bad, user experience, basically complaining about the souls formula of "we're not telling you shit, go explore homosexual" and it made him seethe that people enjoy not being a handheld brainlet.
Someone has a screen cap but basically a handful of actual horizon zero dawn devs were b***hing about the Elden ring Gui/ ui for being against everything they were ever taught in school. Saying Elden ring was awful.
crazy how they admit that every western AAA studio are doing the same fricking awful Gui because its what's taught as "correct".
No one was complaining about the UI... The guy was complaining about "UX" which stands for user experience
>Adds slavery to game because American always talk about it
>le funny
I thank god every day for not beign a weeb
Meant for
.
The game was inspired by early pokemon anime for sure
missing the part where they added Type1 and Type2 body types because "Americans like to make ugly characters"
He was right, if they didn't then why do so many american devs make them?
>people like to make ugly characters
go look at any abomination from ark or a souls game and tell me he's wrong
here you go
Which AAA dev made the main/master branch thing?
Didn't know they were that moronic
>blocklist
>allowlist
>main drive
>secondary drive
I hate it so much bros...
Oh yeah, that shit too. Another one, some other stinker tried to get rid of "backlog grooming" but then the boomer BAs asked why and the subject was dropped kek.
I would usually call things primary/secondary anyway but this shit makes me want to call it master/slave
fukin saved. I hate being in this troony industry even if I'm not in gaming currently.
>Threatened to quit if company didn't change git master to main.
This was always so ridiculous kek.
It was brought up at work in some dev meeting by an "ally" guy and the boomer principal engineer just said "No." The guy shrunk back so hard. Glad I compulsively check if I'm on mute because I kek'd hard.
>change git master to main
qrd? what dos that even mean
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_(technology)
Basically people getting pissy over established terminology because black people
its elden ring all over again
I like palworld. I think it's a pretty fun game for what it cost me. But I also enjoy watching outsourced diversity devs froth at the mouth because they can't match the same success with multimillion dollar budgets.
unironic friendless teenager behaviour
troony
The guy in this meme is becoming the face of Pokemon fans and I'm all here for it
they literally look like this in real life
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>avatar is a fedora guy in a suit
Some tropes never die.
fpbp, this along with the layoffs has been quite the schadenfreude
They deserve it for all the woke shite
>people being mad makes me laugh!
but why?
Because they're moronic for getting mad at this and the things they say in anger are extremely moronic, so it's funny due to the absurdity and ignorance.
Because they are subhuman clowns getting their come uppance.
u mad bro?
Its funny. It's like how I don't care about who wins US elections anymore because both sides are moron
>muh red wave
>muh abortion rights
>muh Jesus
>muh poor migrants
>muh Israel
>muh Gaza
>muh Putin
>muh Zelensky
No matter who wins, I'm laffin
>lets the mask slip for upvotes
What the frick was the plan here
From what I remember the original video was about how women make themselves cry on command so men shouldnt fall for their shit. She was on our side as much as this girl.
100%. Also I want to frick Dazzi
This is just a hit piece that other homosexual did the same thing got caught lieing. Get fricked.
This I am enjoying it so much.
its making only palgays seethe because they cant accept it stole assets
>its making only palgays seethe because they cant accept it stole assets
Is there better evidence than what was posted in the OP?
stole primarinas hair mesh down to exact hair flicks and hair bulbs
tris to quad
moved some vertices to squish the mesh and slighty shrink the hair flicks (still in the same position)
re-triangulate to get new topology
takes 5 seconds
Then you do it.
Takes 5 seconds to tris to quad, then triangualte to change topology, and I could move any vertices to squish the shap
nope
stole primarinas hair mesh down to exact hair flicks and hair bulbs
tris to quad
moved some vertices to squish the mesh and slighty shrink the hair flicks (still in the same position)
re-triangulate to get new topology
takes 5 seconds
you don't get that hairstyle accidentally without stealing it from pokemon from primarina specifically
>unbox unusual
>mouse goes crazy
miss those videos
now compare what you've got to pal model...
give me azurobes model
https://mega.nz/folder/HCATDCIQ#aoE99tdPzJDhHlyW_3C-9g
i'll make some vids in 5 hours I have work
Even in thst clip the edges change when chang to fixed
you can't take away a star by changing the orientation of the edges, there will always be a star there because of ngons, you are not understanding what I'm saying, if you the palworld model also has a star in the same location it would be easy proof that they ripped the asset, but I can't see the topology the picture.
moron it literally changes in that clip and it takes 5 seconds to change topology or add an edgeloop so that isn't a valid defence for palshit
it doesn't you mongoloid, you literally don't understand what I'm talking about.
Yes it does you blind Black person
look at it change when selecting fixed
I saw you fricking moron there is still a star. I don't know how to explain this clearer, you can't remove a star unless you manually change the quads, changing the orientation of the tris doesn't remove it.
>is blind
>are you blind
crazy
But that does not have the topology of the palworld model. Or even look the same.
Black person are you fricking illiterate? stole primarinas hair mesh down to exact hair flicks and hair bulbs
tris to quad
moved some vertices to squish the mesh and slighty shrink the hair flicks (still in the same position)
re-triangulate to get new topology
takes 5 seconds
you don't get that hairstyle accidentally without stealing it from pokemon from primarina specifically
that is literally primarinas hair mesh modified, slightly moved some vertices, tris to quad then retopo to get new tris
You could also get that hairstyle by just copying it by eye but still creating your own mesh from scratch.
Also you can't copyright a hairstyle or shape concept.
>you could get it by stealing
!!!!!!!
Copying isn't stealing.
It's also not illegal, doesn't even classify as copyright infringement to copy just a component from something (copyright doesn't cover components within designs, just the final overall design).
LEGALLY DISTINCT
do you think it's a joke???????????
>you don't get that hairstyle accidentally without stealing it from pokemon from primarina specifically
you don't need to steal the model tho... you an just trace over... it's a fricking tube with 3 bulges
Meds
die
>literally proves that it takes 5 seconds to change topology and it changed
>didn't move the vertices in the vid because thats not what I was showing but regardless it takes no effort to move vertices or add edgeloops either and I already said the shape was modified from primarinas mesh
>UMMMMM BUT THIS MESH DOESN'T ALIGN
because it was modified YOU Black person
troony
You don't need to rip the model for that moron.
You get them both because the pokemon modelers and the palworld modelers have the same artstyle.
You style the hair in that are to create a BETTER PROFILE VIEW.
Just looking at the edge loops it's easy to tell these models are not the same. I dunno why people are pretending to be moronic.
>yeah this will show them
>Actually disproves himself
Like pottery
meds
>Disproves himself as changing the topography never lines up with the palworld model
LMAO
mesh is different
even spikes modeled differently
obviously they ripped of the general shape and design for no fricking reason outside of being moronic... but it's not really enough for nintendo to do anything about it
actually yeah
do it
see
the pokemon model has a poly star here, does the palworld one have it?
see
all that is based on the tri orientation which takes a single button click to change
also adding new faces or edge loops is also extremely simple to do
>all that is based on the tri orientation
no its not, stars can't be removed by taking away the tris because it would make an ngon, look at your own video it stays there, thats why I'm asking if its also there in the palword one
pic, look it stays there
moron look at the video it changes orientation
post azurobes model
hey moron, I'm talking about the amount of edges connected to the vertex not the orientation, read.
see
literally debunks you
stop being blind
it takes no effort to add an extra edge loop or subdivision
>literally debunks you
it doesn't and you don't understand what I'm talking about
There's no clear proof they stole assets... And why would you even argue about it if it's clear they ripped off a bunch of pokemon designs? Because without it nintendo actually doesn't have a case?
>I just care cause the other side is seething
The 2016 election and its consequences
If these people spent this much time and effort trying to do something tangible and beneficial with their lives we’d live in a utopia
>If these people spent this much time and effort trying to do something tangible and beneficial with their lives we’d live in a utopia
same for Op and all of us really,we could make something in our spare time instead of raging/having fun from twitter posts.
i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
I'm still in the office, it's 21:35 here
oh, right, you said tangible and beneficial...
People would be too busy playing a shitty asset flip to experience said utopia
He has a job while you play vidya all day long
I have a job/wife/kid tho. And I have a 4 day work week so I get to drum with a cover band on the weekends (and I get paid for it too) so I’m livin pretty good mang
>being so insecure about being a NEET you invent fanfiction about your life
sad sad sad
>He has a job
He's a hobbyisting larping as a dev. He has no public facing portfolio with proof of previous industry jobs.
Once again, a gamer wins by doing nothing.
His job is to demoralise society with Intentionally bad media and propaganda.
>mfw play games at my job all day long
Honestly it's getting tiring. I don't have the energy to play games with friends after work because I'm playing literally all the time. I spend pretty much all my free time innawoods now.
sound terrible
neets won
I have a job where I get paid to go to the gym and play ick eck all day what are you talking about?
he said while posting on 4chins
>load up a model in a 3d program
>some monumental effort according to you
and even Palworld devs could barely do this LOL
your copyright infringement cabal is being brought down
Lmao. They’re wasting their lives with this worthless shit
this probably took that guy like 30 minutes at most
I know that Harman Smith, one of the most vocal critics of Palworld, is a highly successful indie author that is now branching out into podcasting.
i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
>so i edited these two things to match and wouldn't you know it, they match!?!?!
>if you straighten out a snake it is no longer a snake
i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
>copy pokemon model 1 for 1
>click on stretch tool
>stretch a fee spots by a few pixels
>TOTALLY ORIGINAL GUYS PLEASE PRAISE MY DESIGN
i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
if only these ""modelers"" and ""developers"" spent their time actually making their games instead of complaining on twitter about other games
i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
>Anime music
disregarded
go back to naruto
i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
Palbros our bot broke again. Can one of you fix that before anyone finds out?
i dont really care about our bot, but the fact that it's making palbros seethe with anyone finds out so hard is fricking hilarious.
It's reddit humor more than a bot
>I just switched around some of this body and now it looks like this other body!
those people are insane. imagine if they spent this time working on a game.
>Hi I'm a professional
>Uses the word "edge loops" completely incorrectly
Every time with the larpers
Welcome to xitter. People will ram their heads against a wall despite being proven wrong
welcome to Ganker.People will post the same twitter screenshot until the whole board will become twitter.i congratulate everyone in this thread for the future fall of this board.keep it up
OP here. I actually made sure that nobody had posted this yet in an existing thread because I didn't want to spam the same things over and over. So frick you, guy. This is fresh tendie sperging.
>All the braindead morons in the comments pretending they understand what he is showing when he is mentioning "Edge Loops" while moving the fricking bone hierarchy and trying the hardest to match it with the other model.
This shit is just pathetic now, genuinely sad.
This is what I don't get. That one is more suble than the other, but it still is fricking moronic and meaningless to anyone who's had blender open for more than 20 minutes.
why do everyone on twitter write like a homosexual?
>"see you yourself"
>see nothing
>Turns off comments. Video is 10 minutes long "monetization", links to "portfolio" and "works"
>keeps referring to himself as "professional"
The jokes write themselves lmao, Nintendogays are fricking desperate at this point.
Yeah I went to his twitter looking for credential links. LinkedIn, Artstation, etc. There is none, the guy calls himself a professional, implies he works in games yet has absolutely NOTHING to prove it.
Stinks of twitter hobbyist pretending he's a pro.
Any youtuber that turns off comments is a homosexual.
Nice try
The only thing this guy proved is that the mouth of the models is similar; everything else is different enough for a lawsuit to proceed
What is this mental illness
Palworld Derangement Syndrome.
>Imagine shilling for a Chinese game for free
>Imagine shilling for a Japanese game for free
mostly chinese players means mainly chinese audience means pandering to china means china game
D2/PoE is not chinese.
Well damn I guess 90% of games are china games then
most games aren't even released in china
I just want to know why this one is causing the seethe. There's been numerous monster catching games, many of them turn based even. Why are people so upset over this?
because it upsets tendies
they can't fathom another monster catching game being more popular than their prized gem Pokemon
Fake outrage with bots just call Pal world is an asset flip you get their seething.
what premade assets are being flipped?
pretty much everything that is not pals are bought from asset stores and was used in their previous game - craftopia. It even has catching mechanic. So all the rocks, buildings, trees, visual effects, animations etc are bought assets,
Except they aren't bought assets, the devs said they made everything themselves.
nah they said they made pals themselves
everything else is bought
>everything else is bought
Do you have a single fact to back that up or are you just going to shitpost again.
>I just want to know why this one is causing the seethe.
It's easy.
Palworld is a low effort asset flip and it's more successful than anything the whining devs have worked on and put more effort into.
To give an analogy, it's like being an artist that loses an art competition to an AI prompter.
It's fake outrage by whatever company the Palworld devs hired as part of a viral marketing campaign.
it's because people are pretending there are """zero similarities""" between the pals and pokemon. just say it's a chinese knockoff and you don't care because it's fun but don't try to blatantly lie.
Literally nobody is doing this. Everybody knows it's similar. It's a parody. Of course it's similar. But similar isn't exactly the same.
>literally nobody is doing this
this is an insane lie. it is now the popular opinion to pretend they look nothing alike.
swallow a bullet cultist
>this is an insane lie. it is now the popular opinion to pretend they look nothing alike.
I have to assume you're just pretending to be moronic because I don't think someone legitimately this moronic would be able to use a computer.
>anon has little to no reading comprehension
I will try my hardest to explain this to you like the moron you are; Nobody, now or ever, is saying there are zero similarities. The game has been called "Pokemon with guns" since before it was even released. What IS happening is people saying assets were legitimately stolen and copypasted 1:1, which is demonstrably untrue. Saying things are not carbon copies is not even close to saying they're not similar. YOU lack reading comprehension if those two statements read the same to you.
You are so wrong I don't even know where to begin saying you are wrong. There are hundreds of video essays being pushed around twitter and israelitetube right now about how the pals that look like pokemon are just totally based on real animals okay? when it is very clear that the palworld devs just looked at the pokemon roster and thought
>hmm let's make a couple of changes here and there as not to get sued
people are pretending like that did not happen and the pals were created in a vaccuum. just because you are ignorant to this doesn't mean it isn't happening.
>There are hundreds of video essays being pushed around twitter and israelitetube
Why the frick would anybody care what those morons are saying?
people care enough to post it here and get hundreds of replies. it is meaningless, but it's annoying because of how stupid it is. especially when the mentally unwell are making 100 threads a day about it.
>There are hundreds of video essays being pushed around twitter and israelitetube
Post them
Unless it's someone equally moronic in the other direction, everyone knows it's taking direct influence from Pokemon primarily. The actual debate here (now that the AI accusation is dead) is that they straight up lifted the models from games and just switched moved some thing around. I don't know if people know this, but tracing is built into Maya and Blender. You would have to prove that they came from the exact same meshes before being modified, and so far all anyone has done is obfuscate comparisons and shown how close one body part is to other shapes.
I really want to see how the investigation, if even a lawsuit, turns out. It's going to be great.
Bro, take your meds.
Because people are acting like survival crafting streamer game #1006 is the savior of the gaming landscape.
Because palworld devs themselves are manufacturing the outrage to build up hype for their mid game. It’s pretty frickin obvious lol
this is actually probably the most accurate post here
>like 10 Japanese guys from an indie dev team can somehow control NYT and Kotaku and VG247 and GameInformer
Anon at least blame the israelites, it would be more plausible
homie have you seen the state of journalism?
>event happens
>one literal who puts out a tweet
>news stories immediately crop up
>THE ENTIRITY OF RIGHT WING TWITTER IS GOING BANANS OVER A TRANS CHARACTER IN A VIDEO GAME
All it takes is one viral tweet, yes in 2024 it is entirely possible that this started out inorganically
But it's Western twitter types that have that power or Western suck-ups like Square Enix and Capcom, not literal who devs.
because it's stealing pokeymen's thunder, and shittendo fanboys are predictably up in arms.
Because this one actually sold well and there's a lingering resentment over how shit Pokemon has been for a decade.
How many spite-purchases did Palworld generate
I was 1
2.
It's because nearly everything in the game is a barely legally distinct pokemon expy, and the game is actually successful so they can't just laugh it off. And not in the "these monsters look vaguely similar" or "these guys happen to have the same color scheme" way. Hell, they have a monster named robinquill that's pretty much a perfect match for the owl archer pokemon. They have the same archer gimmick, the same color scheme, they're both birdlike, they're both based off robin hood, they both have a cape shaped like wings, etc. The devs noticed everyone fricking despises the new pokemon games and were smart enough to make something that's actually fun to play and has monsters that look 99% alike.
>99%
It's ok when there's "competition". But when a game is reaching fortnite levels of success and overshadowing pokemon, the supposed juggernaut, then it activates this defence mechanism.
Think about it, pokemon gays but all the merch, they write essays about pokemon. They treat pokemon like a small business because game freak puts on the facade of being a small game studio while taking in billions.
Also let's be real here, from recent events, pokemon was vulnerable. Their last games were highly panned, still sold well, but like force awakens, at what cost?
When the next pokemon game gets released and it's somehow even less put together as palworlds early access ACTUAL INDIE STUDIO EFFORT. There will be heads rolling.
The initial anal blasting was from them finding the dev endorsing AI tech and accused the devs to have used it in Palworld. When that didn't work and due to the outrage momentum of twittergays, they switched over to accusing them of literally ripping the models out of the Pokemon games into theirs. Do not underestimate your average twittergay's schizophrenea.
Self-appointed Thinkers™ and tastemakers of the industry don't take kindly to having to follow the hype instead of feeling like they created it. Palword is doing what the Nintendo Direct did to game coverage: cut out the middleman, created a straight line from developer to consumer. People who invested a lot into being that middleman are never happy about being made redundant. They championed the mantra that "games are for everyone" when they were pushing out the core, but are horrified by how easily they were bypassed by the might of the faceless consumerist masses. This all stings especially bad with how much established developers are struggling, drowning under the cost of state-of-the-art AAA development, staking their futures on stinkers like Suicide Squad, having data breaches, and getting laid off.
Soooooo hard for him, that's why he got fired and is now a professional twitter troony.
Indian shill farms are doing the needful
What game credits is that? I've seen it a few times
Not palworld, that's for sure
>indian studio contracted to create world texture assets
Thank you for doing the needful, Bangshur!
same reason for the seething at genshin, tendies are mad at their precious corporate IPs being "stolen"
All the worthless diversity hires, HR scum, and "artists" are scared shitless right now and not just because of palworld. Every big company that they worship is throwing them out left and right because AI is making them redundant and it's just starting to sink in that they backed the wrong side. All the chud plumbers, electricians, and carpenters are living great at the moment while they sit and seethe about fricking palworld until their call to clean out their desk comes.
>I just want to know why this one is causing the seethe
Because people see it as a competitor to pokemon despite the fact that it doesn't actually play like it at all. Even so they get attached to it and develop a sense of loyalty to it.
Seeing criticism of their game sets them off but the idea of copying/stealing pokemon breaks them because it means that no matter how successful it is it would have earned it in the back of pokemon and not it's own merits.
So that's why they're currently seething out of their gourd coming up with absurd reasons as to why they look the same like pokemon designs with a distinct look and artstyle being "generic" or just flat out denying any similarities even with a side by side.
>just flat out denying any similarities even with a side by side.
What people are denying is that these similarities could only exist if the devs outright stole the models from pokemon rather than the much more obvious explanation that pokemon is the largest inspiration for the designs.
>What people are denying is that these similarities could only exist if the devs outright stole the models from pokemon rather than the much more obvious explanation that pokemon is the largest inspiration for the designs
Ignoring the fact that the ones people focus on the most have elements that are almost 1 to 1 in design no one said that they could only exist via editing the pokemon models. That was one of the many theories thrown around based on what people looked into AI being one of them given the I think it was ceo? Was already dabbling in it specifically with pokemon.
Again, in their anger, instead of taking it as spitballing at random the Palworld fanbase thought for sure that they were being called stolen assets and reacted badly. That's why that ridiculous DQ image exists as well.
No one’s denying the similarities. Everyone’s saying it’s a knockoff but a legally distinct one
Pokemon has always been a un-defeatable juggernaut that they can rely on but when things like palworld show that pokemon isnt the undefeatable god they though it was it reminds pokemon fans that they are getting old and times are changing.
They will become like their parents and it terrifies them so any chance that their losses were cheated from them gives them hope that things have not changed.
That's a lot of projection anon.
It's not Chinese tho
I also thought it was a Chinese game since it was such a blatant ripoff, but it turns out they're based in Japan.
Buy the game now if you're interested, it won't be around for long.
Nihonphobia, the fear of Japanese things. Elden Ring caused the same level of asshurt from "UX Consultants" and their ilk when it sexually assaulted nearly every Western gaming standard and left them in a puddle of dried semen and tears as it went on to sell like meth in a northern Florida trailer park. These people cannot fricking tolerate it when an outsider succeeds because the entire industry is a nepotistic shitpile more incestuous than a royal bloodline.
Chill out dude, that's far too many buzzwords for someone as young as yourself.
You'd have to be mentally ill to be a game developer in the West in the current job conditions, so all the employees are like this
>im cooooomplaining!!!1 look at me cooomplaining on twitter!!111!
Average professional game dev needs to touch grass
the palworld devs already admitted guilt by removing the Luxray clone from the game.
Source?
His dad works at Nintendo
>UX Consultant
kek, I forgot about that shit. Western devs were so fricking mad over Elden Ring for absolutely no reason.
>makes 2 characters t-pose
>LOOK THEY ARE THE SAME
this is essentially what he's doing.
I care very much about sneed, but i refused to manually seed and feed
How many levels of seethe are we operating on
I can't tell if he is proving plagiarism or disproving but regardless idc it's a fun game
You get morons saying if the models match they can just swap the textures and this is proof of palworld stealing assets
"If I take this model and change it to be like a different model they become the same model! It was stolen!"
>t-the Palworld devs just hired some PR firm for hate clicks
New cope just dropped. Also remember that they always accuse others what they themselves are guilty of, so...
what is this homosexual saying, what does edge loops have to do with anything holy shit what a moron
>This is proof
>shows nothing
>streteches the models and bones until they "fit"
these people are grifting by this point, funny that you can call yourself "Professional" and people will undoubtedly trust your word even if you know nothing about what is being shown on the screen.
>rig models for living
>3ds max
doubt [x]
video not playing
WTF it "matches"? number of bones in the spine change? Everything else is different
Did you know "Palworld" and "Plagiarism" are exact anagrams if you remove the w, o, second l, and d, and add g, i, a, r, i, s, and m?
Why are 2 thousand people so gullible?
>replies saying "undeniable proof!"
Whats?????
Why don't all devs take a page out of based Harada's book?
this board is composed in crushing majority of 25+ males, why do you care so much about a game for kids and women?
Half of Ganker is 20 at most
Ganker users average at 27 years old.
Anonymous surveys like these are always biased because the actual underageb& doesnt want to be banned so they don't say anything.
t. I was 14 in 2011 and they had similar polls like these back then as well.
I wish that were true because half of them shouldn't even be on that board. The rage baiters I mean
In his Youtube video he uses a human model to show how even using the same skeleton, the proportions should be different on different models.
The problem is, a human model is substantially more complex than Azurobe, thus differences in proportionality between models are more likely to occur.
This would really have had more teeth if he had used literally any other set of models for this comparison, since this is the one Pal model simple enough in design where proportional similarities legitimately could be an accident, especially if the artist was taking inspiration from Serperior's design (not copying or stealing assets, mind).
Though I can't help but feel like that might be intentional, as if the more complex models maybe didn't match up when he tried this same trick with them and he just chose not to show those ones.
His entire investigation is flawed since the first words he typed.
>mentioning "Edge Loops" while explaining how this bone hierarcy just happens to fit closely if you stretch and scale the other model unevenly
Fricker is moronic
I wonder how many hours have been spent "investigating" Palworld
tendies are mentally ill proof #29372736
Can't they check for a digital fingerprint with some of the pals? Like if they were original mobile deals that were spliced together?
Palbros it's over
The snake has the same body type as another snake, Nintendo is gonna sue us all...
>pokemon invented long, limbless serpents
harry potterbros... gamefreak may sue jk rowling for the basilisk which could be an ekans rip-off.....
The funniest thing about all these big industry professionals seething is that Palworld's lead dev team is
>ex-finance worker that wanted to make games
>jobless artist that couldn't get work and was even rejected once by Pocket Pair
>guy that thinks he can maybe 3D model, theoretically
>school dropout working in a convenience store that plays Arma III a lot
>I intentionally made them match aint it crazy how they match?
>snake models have a similar rig which is just a straight line
no fricking shit
every mamal have 7 bones in the neck from giraffe to cat
>implies only using automatic weight painting
>edge loops when it's overall topology which still isn't the same
this is complete nonsense from a RIGGER
>these two snakes have a straight line skeleton
Yeah, they are snakes.
This gay thinks he does this for a living and still knows nothing
>we need indie devs to displace unoriginal AAA games who have no need to innovate!
>NOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAAATTTTT YOU'RE COPYING BASED NINTENDOOOOO AND USING THE HECKIN EVIL ALGORITHM ART!!!!
How did he get that serperior?
NINTENDO
SUE
THIS
MAN
Theres some actual plagiarists sweating right now hoping they're not going to get palworld treatment
As long as they don't even breath in a way that could be misheard as "AI" they'll be fine. AI is like Twitter moron's Winter Soldier activation phrase. See, I made it an MCU reference because consoomerism is all Twitter morons know.
Nintendo is known for shutting down small, obscure projects years before they are close to finished
Why was Palworld untouched if it threatened their IP?
i dont know if its funny or just sad at this point
>uh if you stretch these things they fit
no fricking way
cool Pal design.
"You see your honor, I can't possibly have committed murder because I had to stretch the glove over my hand"
>I modified the model to match Pokemon's models and you won't believe how similar they are after I did that!
Are you telling me... That making cylinders in blender has the same vertices pattern as another cylinder made in Blender? These "professionals" grasping at straws and just showing shit that the next dimwit Pokémon fan can regurgitate is embarrassing.
>load up human model from X game
>load up human model from Y game
>UHHHH WTF??? THE BONES?
>*snaps them into the same place manually, zooms in so you can't see the differences in the tail and top regions*
>THEY'RE THE SAME????
I thought it was saying the skeleton hierarchy is the same and that the pokemon mod was able to be made in two (2) days because they used the same skeletons.
delet
Both pokemons and palls are mostly simple fricking blobs and tubes with shitty animations and simple rigging. Swapping models for pokemons means frick all especially when we don't know how much it actually fricks up the game.
Like the trailer for mod has ashketchup as player character... does it mean player character model and rigging was stolen from this particular ash model?
>Snake like skeleton is a line
WOAH
Seriously, did they want some weird shit where it has a bulbous tail at the end?
NINTENDO WILL SOON SUE AND PALWORLD WILL BE DELETED FROM STEAM. ALL THE BIG SUPPORTERS THEY HIRED TO PROMOTE THE GAME WILL ALSO BE SHUT DOWN
Gamefreak invented straight lines!
>pretending
The moment Nintendo sues Pocket Pair and proves in court that they are stealing shit, then I'll give it to the Pokemon fans
but until then, frick off
that dude will get sued by Nintendo just for that post
That image is ai generated
i've seen people that claim to be 3d artists say it's stolen, i've seen people that claim to be 3d artists say it's not. which is it motherfrickers?
Pokemon fans are so autistic. Pokemon and Game Freak deserve to be ripped off after how much low effort garbage they've put out.
>rate limited after looking at like 10 posts
frick this troonyhomosexual paypiggy website and anyone who links to it from other websites
Every single twitter screenshot you ever see or will see on here is from a troony.
Imagine being such a fricking worthless homosexual that you care if someone is plagiarizing Pokemon, of all things.
Nintendo would NEVER launch a game on Steam. EVER.
So, they pretty much deserve to see Palword making so much money while they just seethe. That's what you get for ignoring a whole market.
I really don't know why they don't just put it on Steam. You can emulate their games the day they come out anyway. They are actually just throwing money away.
>don't launch your games outside of your console
>???
>people create emulators
>seethe about it, fail to stop them
>people create parodies of your games, sell in a market you completely ignore, and make millions
>seethe about it, fail to stop them
The reality is that I hate companies that refuse to let me play games on PC. So, in a chart of most liked to most disliked, it is currently on Xbox > sony > Nintendo. Where the first is good because it launches simultaniously, the second is bad because it launches only years after and never the tittles you actually want (Bloodborne, Tsuchima, Demon Souls, SotC Remake) , and Nintendo being the worst because it's 100% sure no doubt about it that it will never ever ever be on PC outside of emulation.
>The Palworld shilling is by PC shitters
Every time. Proving again and again this is the true shit fanbase on Ganker.
>game available only on PC and xbox, but who even has one around here
>"the shilling is done by PC players"
Well... Yes? What the frick kind of afirmation is that?
What's next? You won't tell me that.... People shilling TLoU2 are sonygroes? That can't be!
You're thinking it's in good faith, it's not.
The people posting "seethe and sneed"-tier shit in the thread are literal homosexuals from Discord cliques who run these deranged "social operations" on forums because they hate Denuvo and start crusades against companies and open source software stuff.
These are 14 people that sit in a Discord and spam Reddit daily about certain issues.
>NOOOOO ELDEN RING IS TOO GOOD THIS IS RACISM/SEXISM/MISOGYNY
>NOOOOO BALDUR'S GATE 3 IS TOO GOOD THIS IS RACISM/SEXISM/MISOGYNY
>NOOOOO PALWORLD IS TOO SHIT STOP BUYING IT
Christ this fricking industry.
>move bones
>bones move
Are you daft? Even if you if they were actually different models, then polygons would not line up.
Only way that this could happen without being theft would if both Pokemon and Palworld used same base models for bunch of creatures and then edited them.
...Actually, given how incompetent GameFreak is, it's totally possible that some Pokemons are based on some 3D asset packs.
>then polygons would not line up.
why not? it's a fricking tube
>used same base models
you mean like a base model of a cylinder for a snake like creature?
>why not? it's a fricking tube
Because the snake for example, think of the loops in the model being made by hand like you would put together a pipe.
What that means is you're extruding out one loop at a time, so the spacing between each with be arbitrary (essentially) because its at the artist's behest.
That's the issue, that it's impossible to line up like that between two separate models.
>that it's impossible to line up like that between two separate models.
good thing they don't line up
>good thing they don't line up
They do line up. Lurkers can go to 1:10 in the video where he's toggling the green mesh on and off. Those are the two meshes lining in the body up exactly after just minimal bone movement.
they don't line up exactly what video are you watching, they edge loop count does not even match, the palworld model has more loops.
The main loops on the body match, and the iterations on the tail match, but the palworld one has more loops on the tail end and body.
It's a sign of them adding more loopcuts in between the Serperior model's or they smoothed the mesh out.
ah ok just one part of the simple ass tube matches, very cool exact match wow
No you fricking moron, this is like saying the rulers don't match up because one has hand drawn lines every 7 cm.
shit analogy, it just doesn't match.
its clipping too
>If I specifically resize the bones, which changes the loops, I can make SOME of these loops match
Uh huh.
>Resize the bones
Translate Anon. Translate. Translate in FRICKING IDENTICAL HEIRARCHY
Yes yes, the original post already said he intentionally fricked with the models to make them more similar than they actially are, you don't have to use fancy words to try to hide that
>but the hirearchy
its a strip of bones wtf do you want them to change? its not even identical the the number of bones is different and the root bone is in a different location.
The root is in a different location because of the import on the original location.
If all that's happening is a few translation matches, it's over. Not that I trust some twitter user.
>The root is in a different location because of the import on the original location.
no its not lmao, its lower in the palword model so they could place the model on the ground easier in unreal without clipping.
you are making shit up
>its lower in the palword model so they could place the model on the ground easier
Exactly they just changed the translation what's so fricking hard to get
>Exactly they just changed the translation
wrong again, its an extra bone in the palworld model.
it's 4 spine bones vs 5 spine bones tho?
why the frick there'll be different hierarchy? like what 8 spines bones? 3 spine bones? IT'S A FRICKING TUBE
cool, since its not a one to one match there's no question of copyright infringement
I don't think it was done by extruding...
But either way... does it mean they actually ripped the model and just changed it? Or that they used pokemon model as reference (for both mesh and rigging)? Or what
>But either way... does it mean they actually ripped the model and just changed it?
The best guess is they've taken the base Pokemon model and changed what they need to.
With this Serperior clone for example, it's not an exact copy. There are more loop cuts, some loops are scaled out differently.
The whole situation is probably just a case of a outsourced company just trying to cut corners from having a lack of concept art to work with.
They didn't have the budget to outsource
So they say, but Palworld's UI design is very well done and the monster models are very polished, plus a deal with MS. They've got money somewhere.
so it is not a definitive proof that they actually used changed pokemon model instead of making their own?
wouldn't the effect be the same if they just used serperior model as reference and traced over it?
>wouldn't the effect be the same if they just used serperior model as reference and traced over it?
That's the thing about all of these claims, you can find and retopo literally any model on the internet and there's really no way to concretely demonstrate that you did it unless the models match vertex for vertex after some manipulations.
Which, evidently, the OP image *does not.*
Well then we are where we were before this whole "matching bones" shit...
why the frick would you risk getting sued by nintendo for stealing models after developing a game for multiple years and making all those unique animations for 100+ characters
this is how every snake/wormlike creature is rigged
>Clicks Match Transforms several times
>WOW LOOK! It's matching!
Just how fricking moronic can a person get? Of course it will match if you use a match functionality in a program
So he re-rig the bone of pokemon to be the same as pal, what does this prove?
Nothing but he gets troony points aka likes on Twitter which is the only reason he did this because he thought "hey free troony points"
>if i align the bones, the bones align
Howdy y'all I'm a professional troony and I'm literly shaking right now because I rigged this model that I stole to make it exactly like this other model that I stole and triggered myself and this is literly rape...
2 years that most of these designs have been available and now people want to throw a "it's ripped!" fit
Funny
people are just seething because it's popular
>dog carts
>cow pulled plows
>pengullet construction crew
>actual towns
>Nessa but white
Where the frick are these things Pocketpair?
I don't think much of that would actually be fun mechanically
Except for white nessa
To be fair, it was not possible to compare the actual models in detail before the game was out and people had access to the models.
They were still able to seem them, the supposed ripped Lycanroc is there
If it was an issue that TPCi/GF they could have taken action then like in the case of this doujin porn game that Gust made change their designs before it it was released
>If it was an issue with TPCi/GF
forgot to proofread
And an image of the actual game for those that don't know it
This was actioned against before it was sold
They have access now and if it was actually able to be proven stolen it would have happened instantly by people that actually know what they're talking about but we only get twitter trannies desperate for likes from other moronic trannies.
Literally none of these models besides the lycanroc lookalike are the ones people are claiming are stolen assets
The whole roster looks stolen. There's an Egyptian Lucario that's stolen, not only conceptually, but asset-wise too.
Oh shit, really? Can you show me the proof?
I guarantee the animations are stolen.
I guarantee you're a troony pedo
>HURRR IT'S STOLEN
Thanks for the laugh
It's that easy to get (yous)
>I guarantee the animations are stolen.
>Different about
>Different Ears
>Different hands
>Different pose
Different snout*
they just look similar but calling it stolen makes you a moron
Lol and Nintendo didn't make up anubis. Fricking moron.
Rome should sue Nintendo.
>nintendo invented anubis
All the proof you need that Palworld stole assests and used AI. Open and shut case. The seethe when the "developers" go to prison will be incredible.
I know you're joking but at most they get a fine and have to change the models
Back on the Unity version
>I changed this and that so the model look the same.
Incredible, NINTENDO HIRE THIS GUY!
>hi, Technical Animator here
At this point I don't care if Palworld succeeds, I just want these ""people"" to fail their moronic jihad.
If there's one thing this whole shitstorm has shown me, is that people don't know how 3D models work.
>people don't know how 3D models work.
Elaborate.
It's the same bone structure.
And the troony added the bones moron
No, that user matched the transformation of the bones based on the scaling and made them basically overlap, meaning the Palworld guys are taking the bone structure and scaling it alongside their own mesh slightly, here and there, most likely only against the parent mesh of the bones.
In English troony
For the lurkers, not you homosexual.
What the video is doing is matching the positional translations of specific bones between both skeletons.
So not only is the skeleton already extremely similar, once the bone translations are matched up, what bones do is 'morph' the mesh as well, like a real skeleton would, and it shows the mesh overlap also being extremely close with the Palworld one.
Extremely close isn't the same
That's not the point. The point is they were working off of the Pokemon meshes/skeletons as a base.
Someone good wouldn't have gotten caught. The fact that you can just match up the translations (not even any rotations or scaling) means it was done on the lazy.
>that's not the point
Had to stop reading here because you're such a troony
>Someone good wouldn't have gotten caught.
t. seething dev
>Two Discord-tier responses
Hmm.
>reddit spacing
Hmmm
>reddit spacing
Oh no no no we got him boys
>The point is they were working off of the Pokemon meshes/skeletons as a base.
what does it mean tho? did they steal the mesh? or the rig? or they just closely matched it but it's made from ground up?
I'd argue they've taken the mesh and the skeleton and imported it right into their Maya/Blender and started tweaking it.
It's not absolutely blatant, but it's still pretty bad for certain models.
Isn't it because it's a fricking tube?
what result is expected? what wouldn't match between them if they were unique?
>what wouldn't match between them if they were unique?
The bone structure, the position of the "loops", which also includes the vertex positions.
I guarantee if people took the Last of Us Part 2 or God of War Ragnarok character models and made a top selling game out of them, people would be going crazy. Twitter morons would be going bananas.
That shit is so generic that none of the morons that give a frick about it would ever be able to notice or care
That's bullshit. People love what they love, it diminishes the respect the work and development done on a title when you're reusing hundreds of assets.
You go make a character action game with the Kratos model and all NPCs ripped out, make a few million and see the same reaction.
>tfw reading his posts
He's admitting that they made their own shit but also attacking them for being inspired. What is wrong with Pokegays?
>I have both sets of models already for nefarious purposes
PALBROS IT'S ACTUALLY FRICKING OVER
Why do these morons keep going into wireframe mode to make these comparisons, sht becomes a depthless jumble of lines. Just fricking press F3 for wireframe overlay so we stop seeing through the fricking model.
because they want to confuse people. morons will eat that shit up lol
Nobody told me Gamefreak invented snakes
You think a boomer courtroom judge is going to hear this autism out?
Lol there are rapists, murderers, pedo trannies and people think anyone is going to give a frick about a parody of pokemon because of extremely autistic pedo trannies screeching on their troony website
Far more moronic and benign lawsuits see a courtroom than this.
Nintendo is the richest game company in the world, whether they put a case in front of a judge or not is up to them, not screeching flamewar morons online.
Both companies are in Japan so maybe?
>Company is literally on record saying "We had no fricking clue what an animation rig is"
>People are suprised it reuses the bones and models from Pokemon to make working rigs for hundreds of animals
Defending it this hard is just willful ignorance, the idea that the INDIE GUY STUCK IT TO THE MAN is too strong.
>Indie guy
>Has a Microsoft exclusivity deal
are suprised it reuses the bones and models from Pokemon to make working rigs for hundreds of animals
that's literally not true tho
most pals have their own unique rigs
even this snake like thing has a bunch of additional bones and shit everywhere
>i streached this model till it looks like the other model, now they look the same length
no fricking shit
if he has the rig and the mesh why the frick not just show it side to side, its either the same or not
matching bone rotation and position will make them ... match in rotation and position
what the frick is with that clicking, why obscure shit with a texture, just switch between the 2 models, and show both wires
Nooo, he/she matched them to the scaling of the mesh, not the bones.
The model Palworld isusing is ripped from both Serperior and that gay dolphin seal starter.
>The model Palworld isusing is ripped from both Serperior and that gay dolphin seal starter.
is that some israeli curse? i didnt understand a word
also he is scaling the bones, but since its rigged the mesh fallows, but with how he avoids showing the other mesh directly im suspect about the truth
>i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
i dont really care about palworld, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
SARS INDIA #1 DOES NOT STEAL ASSETS PLEASE REDEEM THE PALWORLD
SANDEEP YOU IN DEEP TROUBLE
SANDEEEEP YOU TOOK ALL THE POKEMON DIDN'T YOU
SANDEEEEEEEP
Lol I thought palworld was made by Japanese people? This looks like the credits of the diamond and pearl remakes. Either way the palworld jeets completely shit on the Nintendo jeets.
That's not palworld credits
>grab model
>stretch and edit it until they are the same
>hey guys look they are the same!
>get model
>change scale here and there
>They're different!
Cartman behavior. The internet just made it apparent the mentally ill likes to gaslight
Technical animator means absolutely nothing. This is like the guy whose a team lead at walmart trying to tell you he owns the whole company and to listen to him.
>related position to this thing means nothing
??? hello sir r u the big stupid you bloody b***h?
Grooming children isn't ethical either but that doesn't stop this guy
We wuz triangles an shit
Palcucks, you're all in big trouble.
>Yellow horns
>Blue fur or skin
>White fur
>Four legs
IT'S STOLEN!! NINTENDO INVENTED THIS!!
>EVERY PAL IS AI, AI!, AI!
>THE PALS WERE STOLEN FROM POKEMON!!!!!
make up your mind
>take pokemon
>change it up a bit through ai
was that so hard?
Not illegal
>AI can now make perfect 3D models with texture and everything
I want this AI
ai does the concepting off of a pokemon image, 3d modellers model the uncannily similar designs churned out by the ai by using similar parts from existing those aforementioned pokemons and frankensteining them together
Everyone with a brain can see they traced over pokemon models, the only people unironically arguing otherwise are just gaslighting for the purpose of throwing shit at nintendo (an admittedly justified cause)
The real debate is if anyone actually gives a shit, and the answer is clearly no since the game is selling faster than its source material.
I mean tracing over is one thing, but people say they literally ripped and stole this models so it's whole other mess...
I'll give my run on what probably happened here.
Palworld devs wanted some mons, Microsoft pointed them to some contractors.
Contractors are in India or Thailand or something, they don't get any concept art to work from.
They understand the design spec and just sort of start copying various Pokémon here and there.
Done. The end.
>every post defending nintendo uses reddit spacing
makes you think
>Uses Reddit spacing
Makes you actually think doesn't it?
>twitter drama
what the frick does that have to do with edge loops
THEY ALIGN
THEY ALIGNNNNNNN
I CLICKED 'align' AND THEY ALIGNNNN
They're just saying the edge loops match up along the Serperior body.
let me show you actual identical models which gamefreak claimed were different and "completely remade"
ITS DIFFERENT WHEN POKEMON DOES IT, OK??
What the frick is this post
Another moronic redditor who thinks Gamefreak reusing their own models is some kind of "gotcha", palsloppers are literally the most moronic mongoloids I've ever seen on this board.
can you turn off wireframe and show the textured/material view?
Dynamax models which were just regular models with the vertices multiplied. They lied about not including all the Pokémon because it would take too much work kek
vertices multiplied?
The meshes are identical
nvm these are the comparison between 3ds and switch Pokémon models. The dynamax models are the same but with the vertices multiplied
>Flygon, Pikachu, Tyrannitar, Gardevoir
The frick are the others?!
Let alone pokemon, this game has Elden Ring's map and the splash screens from Borderlands for boss fights lmao, literally bottom of the barrel bootleg slop.
I don't remember this boss from Borderlands.
I wish the humans shot you while on top of the Pals so even if the Pals ranged move misses you still get fricked up
Man, I would gladly buy a deluxe special edition if someone made a game that lets me enslave twatter dangerhair troons and graphically fart on their faces before hitting them with a shovel until they die crying like b***hes.
i dont really care about blank, but the fact that it's making AAA devs seethe with jealously so hard is fricking hilarious.
>Pokemon uncles
The funny thing is, the game is already a hit and all the company might need to do is swap out some models. Easy as frick, it's already here to stay.
it will be an admission of guilt tho...
they'll probably do it if nintendo actually sure tho
>if you edit a model to fit another one they will be the same
woah...
>If you match the TRANSLATIONS of an IDENTICAL HIERARCHY they're the same
Woah
I'm surprised they fricking changed the bone names.
But aren't they both just tubes, so a snake rig would likely fit another snake rig?
nintendo patented snakes
This is what the video shows, that not only do the bones match up along the spine, but then the mesh overlays as well.
That just wouldn't be happening if the bones were placed by the artist, which to be fair, is probably easier to just make a whole new skeleton. Would take a minute.
The real issue is that they probably kept the skeleton to keep and tweak all the animations, which is even worse.
>but then the mesh overlays as well.
but it doesn't you can see them clip and the wireframes don't match either, the palworld model has more loops, the bones don't match in number either. ts just a tube
To me in the end of video they look exact. Exact edge loops on the body, and exact number of bones and bone positions in the Serperior portion. The head portion is Primarina mixed with Serperior.
this is from the end of the video, you can see the time bellow.
even after he moved the bones to match them manually, the models are still clipping each other instead of matching, the bones are also different in number, why are people acting like this shit is an exact match.
>Your honor you see I made the model slightly fatter, therefore not an exact match.
...or thinner? The fact that I can't tell which is from pokemon and which is from palworld I'm not sure what to feel about...
.t doesnt play pokemon
https://x.com/kekitopu/status/1750685781549600904?s=20
wow tube
so youre saying that they traced it instead of ripping the mesh off of it?
nintendo invented shapes wow, tubes are traced from nintendo.
do you understand the "copy the homework but change it up a bit" metaphor?
Then explain the lining up of the edge loops around the body.
>He MOVED them
No he fricking aligned the positional transform of the matching bones in the hierarchy.
>No he fricking aligned the positional transform of the matching bones in the hierarchy.
hmm changing the positional transform, if only there was a word for that.
There is, it's called Translation.
JUST the translation.
That sort of lineup with just the translation, not even any scaling or rotational alignment and on the MATCHING hierarchical bones.
same shit, why are you being such a pedantic moron, I said he moved them. I didn't say he rotated or scaled them.
Exactly, the video just moved them, that's it.
>why are people acting like this shit is an exact match.
because these "be gay do crimes" communist slacktivists are ironically the most capitalist bootlickers who grew up treating brand like religion, the intense nostalgia they have for pokemon has turned them into mindless drones attacking anything that might make their favorite brand look bad and i believe it's not because they are entirely given to the brand but because deep down they know game freak has been slacking and are hacks but they don't want to admit they wasted money on unpolished products due to their social need to feel validated or belong to some circle
But they literally don't match, the person is clicking on a button to make them transform and match.
>reddit spacing
Echo chamber troony
They do, they match perfectly after the bone translations in the hierarchy have been matched up.
Maybe it's disingenuous and the guy altered the model before doing the video. Maybe that's an angle.
>that not only do the bones match up along the spine
what does it mean tho? he says he was
>intentionally tampering with a Serperior's bones to just match the bones of Azurobe
he didn't do it for the whole rig either...
He's not tampering much, he's matching the positional offsets of certain matching bones in the skeleton.
The bones all have parent and child transforms to match, so moving a few and all of them aligning is telling.
>He's not tampering much, he's [cherry picking which bones he determines are 'matching' because they're the most similar by chance and aligning them]
And he can't even make an exact match despite that.
>because they're the most similar by chance
>because they're the most similar in an identical hierarchy
Congratulations to the stupidest post in the thread.
>because they're the most similar by chance
we can't even see what aligned because video is shit quality...
Like I literally can't fricking see it's a grey wireframe on a grey background.
People that do shit like this need to be removed from the gene pool. Like holy shit, this sort of mentality is what holds back humanity in general
>grrrr someone had a good idea and is successful?
>I’ll make some shit up about it and try to ruin their image instead of trying to emulate them or see what I can improve
Literal fricking parasites
Imagine being wrong about something nobody even cares about.
Did you find a job today? Otherwise shut the frick up.
Digital goods cannot be 'stolen' as the original will always exist.
KEKAROOOOOOOOO
>literal furgay Hispanic BTFO the pokeshill
https://twitter.com/kekitopu/status/1750685781549600904
>deleted
Palsisters, is this the best we can do?
>deleted
I can see it just fine.
You're probably using GankerX, you gotta actually click on the Twitter link. For some reason it's showing not loaded if you use the embed link.
the replies lol
>can you rig it in 2 minutes?
>rigs it in 47 seconds
>Doesn't exist
>animator in the game industry
>gets mogged by a porn artist
The state of the industry
>hey that kekitopu.bsky.social guy seems pretty cool
>check out his page
>one of the first media files is pikachu riding a wiener
sounds cool to me
BTFO
WHAT A CHAD
>the part where the Pokegay claims that the furgay doesn't know how to modelate...Even when he has done several porn models, IN HIS PAGE
Jesus, this is beyond delusional, this is something you would expect in a 4chink argument, not in a "professional"...
>some furhomosexual shilling their own Twitter
What manner of Discord homosexualry is in this thread
not an argument.
That's your twitter isn't you pathetic homosexual? Post your homosexual ass discord so we can laugh at your group of South American favela rats as well.
Why are you mad at that twitter but not the OP. I wonder.
It's part of the reply chain that is about the models that starts here https://twitter.com/ellewasamistake/status/1750513571619029189 I doubt it's actually the guy posting here
As an AI language model, I cannot view that link, but you're moronic if you don't realize how impossible it is for the hierarchy to line up like this by chance.
NINTEENDOOOOOOOOOOO, SUE NATURE,
BROS THE TOPOLOGY IS THE SAME
PALBROS!!!! HOW COULD THEY STEAL THIS MODEL
Kek what was this from, let me guess Nier Automata, Resident Evil 2R or an Atelier game
Half-Life 2 Cinematic Mod. The guy who made it was also a massive coomer moron.
its half life 2
A mod for half life that used Daz3D assets.
>whole game is built on stolen, slightly modified assets
holy kek nintendo's gonna assrape this company so hard
Here is something to consider. One major part of an IP Lawsuit comes when the IP Owner creates a C&D. A lawsuit doesnt even need to be filed yet, but the IP owner can file a court injunction requiring the publisher to halt all sales of the game following any legal actions they might file with regards to Copyright Infringement. That has not happened yet, and Valve has a history of complying with IP demands. That tells me that Nintendo has not even created a C&D letter yet.
Considering the pokemon mod was C&D'd within 24 hours of its reveal, and this has been out a week, its exceedingly unlikely theyre going to either.
I think nintendo is considering the consequences of a C&D for the first time ever. Across all platforms there's at least 10 million paying customers that they would be pissing off by taking away their new toy. That's a lot different than fricking with some fan project romhack.
It's not even about the customer's opinion. Filing a C&D when you're not even sure what they did is a very bad idea. You're gonna get fricked if you do it.
Gust had no problems doing it to a porn game
and that was before it was up for sale
Meanwhile the trailer
has the supposed lycanroc rip and GF/TPCi didn't issue a C&D for it and they had 2 years
>another tube
>topology doesnt match either
crazy
>rip model
>modify it slightly
>WOW IT'S LIKE A WHOLE NEW MODEL
>open blender,
>create uv sphere
>OMG YOU TRACED MAGNAMITE NINTENDO
*voltorb
Wait what? You can't make spherical models for the purpose of making snakes? Do you know that people have been doing that BEFORE Pogaymon went 3-D, right?
What is the actual issue? They clearly looked at how Pokemon creates their models, so they can learn to create Pokemon-like models. So far everything has just shown that they're all self-made by studying Pokemon models. Everything is different enough to show they didn't just copy&paste Game Freaks stuff, but also points that it would've been more efficient to make them from scratch, than to modify copied models to be slightly different.
>modify it slightly
Its completely different model. Palworld's model runs edgeloops through the whole length of the model.
if they fricking changed this moronic snake/seal thing a bit more we wouldn't have had this conversation AT ALL
they had 2 fricking years to do so
They didn't have to, and thank god. It's an absolute mongoloid magnet.
imagine doing probably several hours of work, for free, to make a twitter response to protect a billion dollar company.
>Western gaming and Nintendo are seething over
>a project lead that has no idea what he's doing
>a school dropout that plays Arma III
>a failed artist who can't get hired
>a guy who knows Unreal Engine
>I'm putting together a team
>do you know how to 3d model
>i know what a 3d model is
>good enough, friend, let's go
stealing is ok as long as it makes nintendies seethe
>two snake characters have similar topology
Of course they do.
What specifically is this supposed to show.
That your brain is smooth and your penis large, you throwback.
>character that is basically a cylinder with extra steps has similar edge loops as another character that is basically a cylinder with extra steps
Woah.
And rigging? C'mon man.
Those aren't particularly similar rigs, anon.
Alright, alright. We're cool. I've been playing Palworld too. Just seems a little off kilter that they credit a middle schooler as their main modeler.
It's not like the models are complicated. The entire appeal of pokemon designs is their simplicity. Monkey but with leaves. Electric mouse. Water snake. They're simple shapes with no complicated details. The only detailed models in the game are player character models purchased from an asset store and the guns which they apparently hired a single gun otaku to do that they found online
I think they are moronic for making this model so similar... they could've been more thorough... especially because it's such a simple shape...
Add a bunch of protrusions to the body, delet spikes from the hair and extrude them somewhere else, make it 2 or 4 bulges... do something. It's literally like 15 minutes of work. Rigging or rerigging this nonsense is very fricking EASY too
Most other models are nowhere this close with unique rigs etc
Do you realize how easy it is to make most of these models?
It's incredible the level of incompetence.
When I started 3d modeling I was good enough to make stuff like the OP in the space of two weeks, but everyone on twitter acts like you need to be some kind of maestro because they have a collective IQ of 63.
how else would you rig a cylinder lol.
wtf do you want
And also yes, you tend to rig snake characters the same way every time because they all need to articulate in the same ways.
how many more bones do you want them to use lol?
I wish they would just update the models for Azurobe and Verdash so I can quit hearing about this crap, but also because they look like shit. My homie Direhowl is cool though, keep him as he is.
What I don't understand about this whole Palworld plagiarizing situation is where the frick would a literally who indie dev even get their hands on an official 3D model of Pokemon? Is that shit publicly available anywhere? Can you rip it from a game?
it takes like 2 second in google to get at these models
But are they official ripped models or fan made recreations? Major difference
ripped straight out of the games
and besides stealing some fan made thing really isn't much better, if any
they are ripped models yes
Ripped models, dumbass. I'm on the side of the palworld models being most likely handmade but even I'm going to call you a fricking moron if you think getting your hands on official pokemon models is even slightly difficult. Frick off and come back with a functioning brain, or at least Google your inane questions before posting.
>Is that shit publicly available anywhere
yes
you can literally google it lol
Honestly I'm just hoping Pocket Pair redesigns Azurobe after all of this, definitely one of the uglier pal designs out there.
This game is gonna crash nintendo and its legal team with no survivors.
God, imagine how funny it would be if Nintendo had to pay a settlement for a lawsuit they started. Ganker would be unusable for days and it would be glorious.
>gets BTFO out
>he replies "y-yeah but you can do it fast!??!"
>gets BTFO out again
>he becomes unreasonable and unhinged, asking for impossible tasks because he has no way to defend his argument anymore
This man works at Ubisoft by the way.
>This man works at Ubisoft by the way.
ah ok it makes sense now
but the rabbitgay didn't even do what was claimed so no
thry were btfo by the guy proving serperior was used
Gogobros... not like this
gogo btfo the rabbitgay
>thry
gogo nooooo!!!!
Why did the gogo gay ask for it to be done in 2 minutes instead of addressing the point that it's just a cylinder?
hes an ubisoft dev
You can clearly see the serperior skin poking through some spots but not others. That means the models are different, otherwise the serperior skin would be either completely hidden from view or completely on top.
No it means they modified serperiors mesh which they used as a base
it takes 5 seconds to change topology
Like I said, if that were true then the two models wouldn't overlap differently at different sections
Jesus christ, why do I have to agree with the furry.
>This man works at Ubisoft by the way.
lmao of course.
that rabbitfurgay got btfo by the guy proving they used serperior
I think if you are using a video for comparison instead of clear high res screenshot - you are obfuscating by default. There's no need to be this fricking obtuse when you have a clear case of matching topology.
it's wolf, cat and 69 sex thing again
>It's a basic shape you can make it in like 30 seconds
>CAN YOU MAKE A 3D MODEL OF HUNK?
>Bro I just said it's a basic shape
>CAN YOU MAKE THIS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING WITH DIFFERENT SHAPES?
>Bro are you fricking dumb?
>I guess I won then 🙂
How do twitter tards manage to be more moronic and obnoxious than Gankerirgins?
It's not a basic model shape though its specifically serperiors mesh modified
are you moronic
She made the shape moron, it's the same shape.
No it isn't
it doesn't match serperior or the palmon
a tapered cynlinder is not all the shape is
it is serperiors mesh modified
yes it doee
It's the mesh modified bro
*proceeds to show video of them not overlapping*
Damn thinking must be hard.
do all palBlack folk have negative IQ
>moron doesn't know what vertices moved slightly and retopo is
>retopo alters the dimensions of a model
>literally move the vertices takes no effort its little just dragging the mouse on a vertice and moving it which you can use to squash or stretch parts of a mesh
>is clearly just a modified primarina hair mesh
Stfu gogo
The day tpc files their lawsuit all the high profile western 3d modelers and animators are going to be lining up to be expert witnesses. Palbros have no chance.
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>intentionally moronic statement
I'm still surprised that no n one has tried chicken Rowlet and Dinossom in the model viewer
I'm not sure if the pokeposters are falseflaggers or if they're people that actually are that dim.
are palgays actually moronic or just literal Black folk who know nothing about 3D modeling? palBlack folk dont even know what uniformly scaling is
pal world is the tide pods of videogames. your friend thinks it makes him edgy for consuming it, but no one really actually respects him.
Underage
yes, you are.
No u
what an all onions diet does to a mf: