So...
Will it evolve or not?
The name is a spin on Polteageist but it's design is a spin on Sinistea?
Which one do you think it is?
A convergent Sinistea or Polteageist?
Poltchageist
So...
Will it evolve or not?
The name is a spin on Polteageist but it's design is a spin on Sinistea?
Which one do you think it is?
A convergent Sinistea or Polteageist?
100% it will evolve
but will it have the extra rarity of regular sinistea
i fricking hate you james turner its your fault these shitty ass cuphead old cartoon desings exist
Guarantee it’s just a regional evolution of Sinistea and won’t evolve further.
it will definitely have that brush thing you see when people put matcha
It's confirmed to be a Convergent of Sinistea
source: my ass
It's on the official website.
And no Pokemon Direct for it? Suuuure thing.
>a whole direct dedicated to a fricking objectmon nobody cares about getting a convergent line
stop breathing anytime you fricking moron
Convergent species were a mistake.
They're too complicated and too close to regional variants. If it's all about evolution then why do it with objectmons like Sinistea? The Tentacool one is also weird, do jellyfish and mushrooms have a common ancestor? It's getting messy.
>If it's all about evolution then why do it with objectmons like Sinistea?
Sinistea is a purple blob ghost who uses a teacup for protection. Polchageist is a piece of pottery that awakened as a yokai. One is "tea" using a teapot, and other is a "teapot" using tea.
The "convergence" is that two completely unrelated floating teaware ghosts came into existence that happen to have similar traits at first glance.
>do jellyfish and mushrooms have a common ancestor?
Convergent Evolution is when the two creatures sharing traits DON'T have a common ancestor numbnuts. Did you fricks just sleep throught all of highschool biology?
All three times I took it
Convergent species mean there’s no evolutionary relation between the two. If anything, objectmon are *more* likely to have convergents, because they can’t evolve like a living creature to take on new forms.
Tentacool and Toedscool look the same, but they’re totally different creatures. Tentacool is a jellyfish while Toedscool is a mushroom. The two species have no relation whatsoever.
Similarly, Sinistea/Polteageist are a ghost that possessed black tea, while Poltchageist is a ghost that possessed matcha tea. While they’re similar concepts, there’s no actual relation between the two lines, as there’s no way for a teacup/teapot to “evolve” (in the Darwinian sense) into a new form. They’re just ghosts possessing similar things.
Ah ok, thanks for this explanation! Makes sense. Do the games explain this?
“Convergent forms” aren’t a thing you guys. They’re never called that in-game and no lore is given to them beyond “wow Wiglett looks like Diglett.”
Saying “Gamefreak doesn’t understand convergent evolution” or “it’s weird that Poltchageist doesn’t match the other convergent form patterns” is dumb because these new mons aren’t actually convergent mons, they’re just new mons that look like old ones, and it’s the fanbase that has created all this “convergent form” discussion.
Centro confirmed they are moron
>centro
>confirming anything
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Even if they aren't directly called that, Gamefreak makes too much of a deal about how similar they look to the base mon for that to not be the explanation. They even give explanations for why these mons developed these traits too. The Toedscruel line uses their mycelium in a similar fashion to how the Tentacruel line uses their tentacles (wrapping them around prey to incapacitate them) and Wigglet needs got big nose and tendency to flee underground from the speed of the predators in it's habitat, like Veluza.
yes, my point is that people are dumb for keep calling it that, even the leakers who def know nothing about biology. They really are just pokemon that happen to look similar as a muh reference
>If anything, objectmon are *more* likely to have convergents, because they can’t evolve like a living creature to take on new forms.
Makes sense, but how does that explain Hisuian Voltorb?
Voltorb an apricorn monster that got a less wood texture over time apparently.
Local moron doesn't know what convergent species are.
Every species on Earth has common ancestors.
Convergent evolution is when a clade gain structures that are not presented in the MOST RECENT COMMON ancestor with its sister clades while shared the same forms and fuctions with a distant clade
Example: Cetaceans developed fin-like structures that help them swim like other non-terapod fish while their most recent sister clade - the Hippos - don't have them
Since GF doesn't really put their mind into the ecological and physiological function of their pokemon design the "convergent evolution" can only be called mimicry at best
No? Convergent evolution is when something develops physical characteristics that are useful to a species in the environment it lives in. But it has absolutely nothing to do with clades or historical evolutionary families. It can be all sorts of shit that never popped up prior in its evolutionary history. Stuff like fins or wings or body shapes are all free game, so long as they benefit a species living in that environment and allow it to live easily, typically due to an open niche it's taken over. Case and point: Picrel is a reptile, not a fish. Bats aren't birds, whales also aren't fish, hummingbirds aren't moths, King crabs aren't actually crabs. There's a frick ton of examples of this. The only real issue I take with stuff like Poltchageist is that it isn't an animal period. I have no idea how a ghost experiences convergent evolution.
Forgot the pic.
>I have no idea how a ghost experiences convergent evolution.
Two completely different species of ghost in differnet parts of the world found it beneficial to possess teaware, so there are two "teaware" ghosts that have nothing to do with each other.
It would be like if a species of octopi started altering their biology to live in used shells like hermit crabs.
You know what? Fair.
A ghost is a ghost.
No. Some are made from the spirits of dead things, some are lifeforms from a different dimension so they aren't solid compared to the environment they live in, and some just prey upon life energy so they seem unliving.
A Tsukumogami is not a ghost.
If you run over one with a train, do you get a tsukumogami ghost that will haunt people and ask where its legs are, violently dismembering them if they are incorrect?
Well, Tsukumogami don't have legs to begin with. Unless it's a Table Tsukumogami. Or like a chair.
He's correct, but he's being overly pedantic. All life on Earth is descended from a single common ancestor, so you can find a most recent common ancestor for any two living things. If that most recent common ancestor doesn't share a trait that is shared by both of its descendants, then that's convergent evolution. There are no known cases of convergent evolution involving two unrelated species, because there are no known unrelated species.
However, if we ever encounter life that doesn't share a common ancestor, I expect we'd redefine the term "convergent evolution" to include it, because it's a useful term.
Aliens are not life. If it isn't Earth it isn't good.
Even if we find aliens, all life would still be similar down to element level so depends on how far would you go to define common ancestor (molecular evolution, selective at a genetic level, etc.)
Even if we assume that there is no common ancestor between organisms an Earth and alien life form, any similarity would still be called convergent evolution because no common ancestor = no shared trait in the most common ancestor
Go read the definition of convergent evolution again. It is only considered convergent if the trait developed did not appear in the sister clades.
Do you say that tunas and mackerels look similar because of convergent evolution? No because they are close relatives and their shared morphology is parts of inherited traits from their common ancestor.
Based on official source Poltchageist actually share an ecological niche as sinistea so this is the first time we can say that it is a convergent evolution line
But they are both tea. We've seen Regional variants be a tanuki and raccoon, so what makes tea and tea so distinct to be compared to garden eels and moles?
Zigzagoon's Japanese name is "Zigzaguma", with the "guma" coming from araiguma (racoon). I have no idea where people got the idea it had anything to do with tanuki. Japan has normal racoon too, you know.
But the difference between "tea" and "tea" is that they're VERY different existences as ghosts. One is a ghost that makes things float around, while the other is actually possessing the teacup as its body.
So tanukis aren't raccoons?
The dog part of "raccoon dog" is more accurate, actually.
No. Tanuki are canidae, which means they're a type of dog/fox/wolf, while racoons are procyonidae (a family consisting of racoons, ringtails, and a few animals nobody cares about like coati). Tanuki are just called "racoon dogs" in the west because they're essentially wild dogs with the coloration of a racoon.
Raccoons are native to the Americas. Tanuki are native to Asia.
Do they have vultures in asia?
Yes, and they're adorable.
Yeah, but all of them are endangered. None of them live in Japan, though. (they do have buzzards)
Raccoons are Mustelids, Tanukis are Canines. They're distantly related, but only as related as a wolf and a seal might be. Tanuki's are basically a species of dog or wolf, not a type of raccoon.
Frick, I meant Musteloid not Mustelid. But I probably should've said Procyonid. I'm having an off day.
I know it's been three and a half hours since you posted that, but it absolutely needs pointing out again how fricking moronic you are.
>pinky out
100% evolves into a Japanese yunomi tea cup weilding a matcha whisk and the name will be Sinistcha or something.
They make another game set in Unova where Polteageist gets a regional variant based on an ocean filled with tea paraphernalia.
>all the new forms are galarshit
why do they keep pushing this?
Even they realized how hot ass the region was and are trying to messily redeem it. My question is why they aren't giving Kalos the same treatment. Maybe it'll come later.
Kalos has high density of OP bullshit, so dangerous to fiddle with.
Maybe not. It being a single stage evolution would really hammer home how awful and forgettable it is.
Here is your evolution bro.
its rfake/mememon not convergent