Post a some lesser known facts you know about retro vidya that run contrary to common knowledge.

Post a some lesser known facts you know about retro vidya that run contrary to common knowledge. They have to be actual facts, not just your opinion.

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  1. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Daffy Duck on the GameBoy includes a secret campaign that is longer than the entire original game combined and it is unlocked by doing a TAS-tier maneuver. The first level of the campaign starts by you falling into a death pit and given nine lives to beat it. Chances are you will need to use save states to beat it.

    The game was released in 1995 around the time the first Windows Game Boy emulator hit the scene. And if you connected a Game Genie to the Super Game Boy, you could play games in slow motion. Either way, this campaign was made not to be played on the regular GameBoy.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's fricking awesome.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you mean Daffy Duck: Fowl Play?

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Windows
      You used DOS to emulate back then. It was before 95.

  2. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    PSA remove the real-time clock capacitor in your xbox OG or it will leak acid onto the motherboard.

  3. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gameboy Advance emulators were available online before the handheld was officially released in the United States.

  4. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The transparent colored N64s have slightly better composite video output compared to the black ones.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is also applicable to the wii, the blue and red wiis have much better component out video quality. its actually a board revision thing, you can find your board revision number if you pull off the cover to the CMOS battery.

  5. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The HORI Fighting Stick 2 is a true analog arcade stick released for the PS1. Very unusual thing.
    You can see the analog components in this video.

    Makes me want to buy one. But they are quite expensive. I guess I'm late to the party.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      According to this the buttons are pressure sensitive too.
      https://oneswitch.org.uk/page/hori-fighting-stick2

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        What game would have used that?

  6. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ps3 360 era felt like the end of people being excited about video games because they peaked right before this

    Strange to me how they aren't all just copying gta now, like what saints row did

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's an opinion.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I agree 100%, but that's still an opinion
        (A secret between me and you: it's a fact. No homosexual tho)

        [...]
        Not only just an opinion, but it's you projecting because you stopped enjoying things and knowing how to appreciate games that you didn't have nostalgia for. Thinking "people" stopped being excited about video games just because (You) did is stupid. Good games kept coming out, they just weren't as mainstream and filling game store windows with posters like before.

        He's not wrong though. There's lots of people who've felt the same way. We had a topic about it a week or two ago and how a lot of us just tend to not play anything from that gen but from older ones instead.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lots of people having the same opinion does not make it a fact.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            No one ever declared it a fact.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              read the op post you fricking goober

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >There's lots of people who've felt the same way.
          There are seven billion human beings on Earth. Lots of people feel a lot of different and similar ways about a lot of different things.

          >We had a topic about it a week or two ago and how a lot of us just tend to not play anything from that gen but from older ones instead.
          Shocking that a small group of bitter nerds on /vr/ think their lack of excitement for later gen games extends to the rest of humanity even though gaming is bigger now than it's ever been. Not trying to excuse boring shit like COD and FIFA but it's just delusion to pretend having an adamant rageboner for PS3-onwards is some sort of universal thing.

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thats because a majority of the population is dumb and doesn't know better.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree 100%, but that's still an opinion
      (A secret between me and you: it's a fact. No homosexual tho)

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I agree 100%, but that's still an opinion
      (A secret between me and you: it's a fact. No homosexual tho)

      Not only just an opinion, but it's you projecting because you stopped enjoying things and knowing how to appreciate games that you didn't have nostalgia for. Thinking "people" stopped being excited about video games just because (You) did is stupid. Good games kept coming out, they just weren't as mainstream and filling game store windows with posters like before.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Thinking "people" stopped being excited about video games just because (You) did is stupid.
        What actually happened was the market got flooded with games. How many games did the Nintendo 64 launch with? Games were almost drip-fed to us, so game releases were more exciting. Information was also limited to magazines which, again, caused excitement. You'd only get updates on games once a month. Sometimes you'd have to seek out multiple magazines.

        More emotional investment = More excitement.

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dude, there's over 9000 ps1 games
          I agree that the market is flooded with trash, but that is not a new phenomenon

  7. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Super Mario Bros 2 was actually a game called donkey donkey picnic

  8. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gamefaqs.com was online before the launch of the N64.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Best post in the thread

  9. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Atari 2600 controller was not made for the system. It was originally used for a Tank console that never came out. I think the console itself is the first iteration of what would become the 2600 but I don't know for sure. Also a little more known fact about the Atari is that it had an online storefront made by the same guys who would later go on to create AOL.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Earliest date you know of for this system?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        According to this source (https://mcurrent.name/atarihistory/wci_games.html) June of 77. Also I stand corrected as the same source says the 2600 and the Tank console were announced at the same time. I'll try to find more sources though because I find it odd that they intended to release a tank system alongside a system that's launch title was a tank game. Still interesting that the joystick wasn't intended to only be used with the 2600 initially though.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >online storefront

      How the frick would you have bought something online back then?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Credit cards were a thing back then. But I'd be more inclined to believe it would've been mail in a check or money order

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        My best guess is that you would be billed by your telephone provider? I can't find that much info besides the Wikipedia article, and it just gives you basic info.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Google atari game line. It was a subscription service like Segas game channel. I hate when people keep repeating the line that game channel was ahead of its time. It was an already decade old business model.

  10. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    hiroshi yamauchi hated all people who played video games and he cursed them until the day of his death for destroying his proud toy company

  11. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The PS1 7500 model series (PU-22 board) contains a parallel port on the rear of the console. This was often used for gamesharks and softmodding.

    The 9000 model series (PU-23 board) removed this parallel port from the console to eliminate these piracy options.

    However, there exists a tiny manufacturing window of consoles that combine the remaining PU-22 boards under a new 9000 model shell. This means there exist PS1 models with a port still present, but you cannot see it or access it because the shell covers it.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hey so I ended up with a PS1 with the paralell port - what are the advantages in a modern context, and what, if any, are the disadvantages? You don't have to answer but I figured it could be interesting for the thread

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's no disadvantages to having the port, and if you're not using it for specific hardware you really dont need it, but since the later console revisions have better hardware (fixed skipping issues, better AV quality, less prone to overheating issues), there is sort of a sweet spot - I'd say the 7500 series is the best

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          >check childhood PS1
          >it's a 7501

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          5501 is the best and most compatible (pu18)

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I had one and got an "ActionReplay" game shark thingy.
      It was useless for cheats, or at least I didn't care, but I could run pirated games, without actually having the need to get my PS1 modded.
      There were shops who modded PS1s, but I was always wary of that, as they were dirty greasy guys in dusty shops.

      >mod it yourself you homosexual
      I was 13 at the time, no PC, no soldering iron, no idea on how to do that.

  12. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    in ff7 on ps1 you can cast regen on your party then open the lid on the console and it will continue to heal you while the enemy cant act until you close the lid

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Could you skip battles by doing that or am i misremembering.

  13. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The A.I. in the initial US release of the arcade version of Super Street Fighter II Turbo is not "stuck on level 8 at all difficulties".
    The difficulty slider works, the game is just set to be more difficult overall than the Japanese version.
    Source: this reddit post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/Fighters/comments/y0nn6o/urban_legend_super_turbohyper_street_fighter_2/

    Secondary source: me playing all versions of the game for hundreds of hours getting the 1cc on all versions of the game, both console and arcade, on the highest difficulty and speed settings.

    Something *else* is going on more than just "being stuck on level 8" due to a bug.

  14. 6 months ago
    Radiochan

    The Famicom was directly inspired by Nintendo's engineers being told to make a machine as able to run Donkey Kong as well as the ColecoVision did. It had nothing to do with Jet Set Willy.

  15. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ys III was not originally meant to be an Ys game. Ys II was indeed supposed to be "the final chapter." However, Falcom used a sprite they had of Adol as a placeholder while they were developing it and this confused the artist who thought it was going to be a new Ys game and made a lot of art based around that. Since the artist did so much work and development time was running out, they just decided to go with it and make it a side story. Then, at the 11th hour, the executives thought it would sell better if they changed the name to Ys III. Supposedly, some of the early copies say "Ys Gaiden" on the box but I have yet to see proof of that.
    The original creators left Falcom during the development of Ys III and formed Quintet, best known for Actraiser and the Soul Blazer trilogy. That's why there were two separate, unrelated Ys IV games which were both outsourced to other developers. Also, one of the creators apparently vanished off the face of the Earth at some point.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Was for the best. I like the Ys series, and that includes Wanderers and its remake, Oath in Felghana. Thanks for the fact, anon.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That's why there were two separate, unrelated Ys IV games which were both outsourced to other developers.
      I always fricking wondered what was up with that

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        the pc engine one is much better, but hudson made some changes to the manuscript so its "not canon"

        that said, the ys iv remake has elements from both games

  16. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    The common knowledge is that Capcom ported Street Fighter Zero to the CPS Changer.

    However, the most likely reality is that the CPS Changer is the original version of the game. Street Fighter Zero was created as a way of using up returned CPS1 boards after the CPS2 was released.

    See this video by the producer of the game Yoshiki Okamoto:

    The CPS2 version that was released in arcades was a last minute upgrade to what was the near-complete CPS1 version that had been scheduled for release.

    The CPS Changer project probably originated as an alternative plan of what to do with all those returned CPS1 boards.

  17. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is a version of Street Fighter Alpha 2 Gold which includes Cammy as a playable character in the single player arcade mode, and includes an ending for her.

    It is only available as part of the PS2 Street Fighter Alpha Anthology (Street Fighter Zero: Fighter's Generation in Japan).

    It is unknown if this version of the game is an actual CPS2 rom that could be dumped, or a PS2-specific port.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Alpha 2 Gold was also released on the Saturn and it was common knowledge that Cammy was one of the additions. It was widely covered by the biggest saturn magazine of the time.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        You missed the part about Cammy being selectable in 1 player mode and having an ending in this version.
        She does not have that in the console ports of Alpha 2 Gold on PS1 and Saturn.

  18. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is a commonly held belief that Naomi and Dreamcast Street Fighter Zero 3 Upper has more lag than the original CPS2 release.
    However, it is not well known at all that Capcom released two version of the game for the Dreamcast. The "Saikyo Dojo" version, and the later version called "Street Fighter Zero 3 Saikyo Dojo for Matching Service" with added online play.
    The Matching Service version has the same amount of input lag as the CPS2 arcade version.
    It may have other additional features that remain unexplored such as an EX service menu. The Matching Service version of SSF2X had very in-depth extra options that could be unlocked.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is that the one with Ingrid Init?

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think that was PSP since Ingrid's sprite was from Capcom Fighting Jam which released after dreamcast's lifespan.

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        No.

  19. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some single player PS2 games will not recognize a controller if you plug it into the second port and leave the first port empty.

  20. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Retro games were made to play, not to collect.

  21. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remember how there was a "bad" ending in Dragon Warrior that spinlocks the game and forces you to reset? The FC version of DQ is known for having a password system, but it doesn't seem to be common knowledge that there is a hidden "hard" mode in it. If you accept the Dragonlord's offer at the end of the game, instead of a spinlock like in the US version, it gives you a password that sends you back to the beginning of the game with lower stats. This was removed in the US version since the save system switched from passwords to battery paks when it came out in the US.
    There is also an old wives tale about the US version erasing your save if you choose the bad ending. This does not happen (as long as you reset and power the game off correctly like so many other NES games with battery paks had to do as well).

  22. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fromsoft:
    In addition to King's Field Additional on DS, there are three King's Field games that were only realeased in Japan on early mobile phones, and they're basically lost media with no footage anywhere, with descriptions loosely pieced together from old jp forum posts
    The music for Evergrace was initially meant to be used for Shadow Tower of all fricking things

  23. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    F1 Dream is a very obscure Capcom port on the pc engine. NEC Avenue not only made a near perfect port but they also added a new career mode

    its been well overshadowed by the F1 circus series

  24. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Splinter Cell Chaos Theory has a higher aggregate score than Metal Gear Solid 3.

  25. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    good thread

  26. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Back in them days, no-one ever called them retro games for some reason.

  27. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the original tomb raider: San Andreas you could put in a code to have Lara and CJ frick

  28. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Highest polygon count on a 5th gen console game?

    World Driver Championship on N64

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      That’s a pretty cheap game too, might get it complete in box tbh

      • 6 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fricking autocorrect made me sound like a gay

        • 6 months ago
          Anonymous

          Shut up gay

          • 6 months ago
            Anonymous

            I might as well kill myself

            Also to add to this thread, did y’all know Pokémon emerald had like a frick load of placeholder Pokémon? 65,097 Decamarks fricking exist. Meaning sword and shield beyond are such greedy and lazy developers that they can’t add all 1000+ Pokémon in one fricking game and lock behind everything behind a paywall. Frick game freak.

            • 6 months ago
              Anonymous

              Just means they used a 16 bit variable for IDs this time. Since by this time there were more pokemon than 256 (2^8) that they would use the next big common data type instead of creating some odd inbetween one is not really suprising.

    • 6 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm kinda surprised that some random American racing game somehow ended up having the highest polygon count of that gen.

      Also, how did anybody find out about this? Did someone make a program that went through the entire library of N64 ROMs and PS1 .isos and count all the polygons each game used?

  29. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    In Starfox 2 for SNES, if you fly out of bounds on a ground stage long enough, eventually your teammate will ask you what the hell you're doing and begin to try and guide you back. This is the only time in the game that both you and your teammate can fly together outside of the overworld.

  30. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tails is male

  31. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guile from Chrono Cross is actually Magus from Chrono Trigger/Magil from Radical Dreamers. It was obvious if you were Japanese and played RD but the rest of the world was in the dark about it until the DS version of CT

  32. 6 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is possible for a player's super to cause the super flash in ST even though that player lost the match.

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