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So the consensus seems to be her stone always breaks if you stop the ritual. I've been putting off her romance because that seemed like a bad ending but if that's the only way it can end I guess I'll check it out next playthrough. Feels so stupid when you run into soulstones in Commoragh spire and no one thinks to take some back just in case.
Don't forget you also visit a crone world where they are harvested.
Devs wanted to give her romance a sad ending, but did so in a stupid plot-hole filled way.
This and it's annoying not having a choice of what your character does, you always die in bed at home instead of, I don't know, living 1000+ years as a biomancer or going off to larp as an Eldar with Yrliet and planning to put your own soul in a soulstone which logically you'd find after searching all that time. It's all muh tragic human elf romance trope.
And they could've made it sad without stupid stuff too. Like, ending where she leaves could say that she felt that Path of the Outcast is not for her anymore, that she misses her people, struggles living among humans and that RT didn't want her to cripple herself for him so he convinced her to reunite with her kin
>planning to put your own soul in a soulstone
Wouldn't really be much point in a human doing that though would there. The Eldar scoop up all the crystals and upload those souls to their craftworld's afterlife cloud. A human soul would just be in a stone doing nothing forever until someone broke it.
In a rare case could they upload a "friend of the Aeldari" like the RT eho saved many of them to the circuit to be with Yrliet? Or at least give them a shared soulstone to chill together if such a thing exists in small variety (there is a big one on crone world that consumed navigators and eldar alike)
>In a rare case could they upload a "friend of the Aeldari" like the RT eho saved many of them to the circuit to be with Yrliet?
Seems extremely doubtful. Unless somehow the farseers of a craftworld foresaw that having a dull, crude, harmful human soul poisoning their most sacred sanctum would somehow be of great benefit.
It's not that they couldn't potentially tolerate a rogue trader human, but mixing souls is kinda a different deal.
What if human soul would make a lot of psychic baby souls with eldar souls, filling Infinity Circuit to the brim and eventually awakening Ynnead?
Oh, I'm sorry, I did not mean to spread Ynnari propaganda
Soul sex with humans is the kind of depravity that got them into trouble in the first place.
I mean, if you've done nothing but help the Eldar and you can soulbond with one that should count for something. But at least keeping your soul in a stone for Yrliet to talk to instead of Yrliet watching it disappear would be cool.
I guess they could make an exception for the person that saved so many of them and risked everything to do it. Or at the very least put him in a soulstone Yrliet could soulmeld with if that's possible.
>I guess they could make an exception for the person that saved so many of them and risked everything to do it.
They are Eldar. At best, they will treat you as their slightly less moronic pet. You won't give your dog a medal for protecting you from a bandit, right?
Depends in the lore they don't look down on humies THAT much. For instance in the books Eldar get sad over killing human civilians and one has a breakdown cause he killed a human child iirc.
Depends on who's writing them I guess.
I assume RT can at least get put in a rock that Yrliet can play soul explorer with.
You can get along with them pretty well if you pick all the Iconoclast choices. Also they can let Cassia keep a piece of the stone to keep her family's souls in, though that's clowns. Marazhai is a fricking deldar and it's possible to make him genuinely see you as an equal if you larp as a deldar well enough. If Yrliet already thinks you're ok enough to soulbond with this could work.
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warp_Spider_(creature)
There is an antivirus in Infinity Circuits that destroys any noneldar presence in them. At best Space Elves will go "yeah, sure we will upload you alongside Yrliet" and then they actually do without telling you that you will get destroyed.
No idea could Eldar add an exception to that.
Otherwise just add him into a rock and slot it in a building. Think Autismo elf could communicate from infinity circuit anyway since it's linked to the rest of the Craftworld
Slot them into shared soulstone and keep em there, the Eldar dislike Yrliet anyway so they don't have to deal with her for eternity kek
Everyone wins
Unironically this.
Best ending for everyone.
>Iconotard and /misc/ elf stay together forever
>Eldar get rid of /misc/ elf without sending her to Slaanesh
>redditoclasts simp after the /misc/ elf
I never got that.
>waifugays
There should never have been any eldar companions in this game.
>miss out on interesting wh40k eldar/human dynamic (non romantic, ffs they are all massive xenophobes)
Just gulag waifugays instead
Opposites attract
There is an eldar ranger who liked deldar pegging. Idiot ditched his friend with benefits, who clearly had feeling for him, for a drukhari
Wrong comment. I meant to reply to
>even in her happiest ending concept everyone hates her (apart from RT)
>Or at least give them a shared soulstone to chill together if such a thing exists in small variety
It happens in Cassia's quest with her ancestors and Eldar sharing a big one, so yes those things do exist. I don't see Eldar wanting to upload a human to circuit despite him saving Aeldari and being their ally + I don't know if warp spiders can be called off to not purge him if for some reason they allowed him to enter the circuit.
This is the only possible happy ending for Yrliet and RT, since even if the RT managed to match her lifespan somehow they still wouldn't be able to spend eternity together and getting soulstoned would be the only way to do that (assuming it doesn't get destroyed).
This is my headcanon ending for them, they deserve a little happiness
>"Her elantach was all that kept Yrliet among the mon-keigh, but her heart was restless, and her soul bled from journeys through the warp. Her lone expeditions in search of spirit stones grew longer and more frequent."
>"One day, Yrliet returned to find the elantach on {mf|his|her} deathbed — her search had taken decades, yet decades pass without notice for Aeldari. Yrliet spent the elantach's final days with {mf|him|her}, and when the time came for death to place its hand on the Rogue Trader's shoulder, she sank into {mf|his|her} world one last time. The elantach, young again, looked at her and smiled. Tears burned Yrliet's skin, and then the dim light of the human soul faded. Yrliet touched the elantach's wrist to check {mf|his|her} pulse. She closed her eyes, sighed, and left the von Valancius protectorate, never to return."
It was sad but it's pretty cute
Just let us make half eldar goddamnit Half elves are awesome
robby, your girlfriend is a prostitute who's had more dick than fulgrim. the child would barely have your genetic imprint
I was thinking some scenario where you find a new craftworld for Yrliet to join and you're eventually allowed to join them too, then it's really romantic if you agree you're both going into the circuit someday so you'll be together forever. Yeah it's a longshot but it's the closest I can imagine to a happy ending for them.
I don't think eldar would voluntarly allow human into Infinity Circuit in any circumstances. They'd just put human in stone or insert the stone in some structure. And to be put into stone not against your will you'd have to do something really extraordinary.
Also, there must be other ways to put your soul into something
Besides, I maybe want a happier ending, but what you're suggesting is just way too sweet
I'd be fine with just leaving it open-ended or have the RT have a say in what they plan on doing. This is actually my problem with most of the endings, they all act like once the game ends you're old and hole up in your office to do paperwork until you die while all your companions go off on quests and adventures without you.
Better than dissipating or being daemon plaything after death. Also, Inquisitor who got inside spiritstone in one of Rogue Trader ttrpg supplements could communicate, although he couldn't leave lost craftworld he was on
>Devs wanted to give her romance a sad ending
Seems to be a trend with Owlcat
>Shocked that the Eldar gets a bad ending because the plot demands it
Are you new to 40k, or just new to Eldar?
I mean, you can give the dark eldar a happy romance ending. And Yrliet's non-romanced ending is ok because her stone doesn't break.
>you can give the dark eldar a happy romance ending
in what fricking universe placating a psychopath is a happy ending?
It's a very happy ending for Marzipan.
>finds his soulmate
>has lots of kinky degenerate sex
>gets his Kabal back
>gains political power despite killing an Archon of the Black Heart and possibly having said mon-keigh soulmate's brand on him
>gets to frick around and troll humans including Inquisitors and Space Marines
Even the RT gets the first two plus a boyfriend who has power in Commoragh and kills her enemies for her.
>her enemies
>her
hmmmmmmmm...
can i be bffs with him without the butt sex? I like having a pet psychopath on call to take care of my enemies
You can't, you can romance him with a male RT too but he only treats you as an equal if you prove to him you're basically a deldar and that comes as a package deal with the sex and crew murder. If you don't romance him it's more that he'll help kill your enemies until the end of the game and then he goes to do his own thing.
oh well... butt sex it is then. The things I do for a power fantasy
Oh and his romance is all kinds of broken, you need toybox and ideally a guide to even get through it especially dom RT route. Had to do Yremeryss fight several times because some of his dialogue gives the opposite flags.
I didn't get the scene after yremeryss fight in which he traps her soul. i fear i might be fricked now
Yeah, turns out you have to bring Argenta to Commoragh and have Argenta and Ulfar in your party when you recruit Marz. May work with Heinrix instead of Argenta but I haven't tested it. Then you get the scene where they conspire to kill Marz, go back to the Pit and stop that, and then you start romance with Marz from there (where the dom/sub flags are good unlike the other way to start it where they're flipped) and that gets you the "trap Yremeryss" errand, which also bugs out half the time. Oh and the agonizer flags are still flipped, fricking patch tricked me because they fixed the dialogue but kept the bugged flags.
Then if you want to make him Archon you HAVE to let him kill anybody he wants on the ship in the Soulless quest (which bugs out almost every time) if you do dom route because you don't have enough Tempest flags otherwise. They've also changed the option to lock him up and it now breaks the romance, but surprise, they also made the free killing option (which you need) cause the romance to bug out because he has two fricking etudes with the same name and it checks the wrong one later so you can't get through the branding scene unless you unstart and restart it with toybox. And after all that fricking shit you hilariously need Iconoclast 4 to make sure to have the flags for true romance without letting him murder an officer. Stupid deldar, why are you so high maintenance.
>and have Argenta and Ulfar in your party when you recruit Marz. May work with Heinrix instead of Argenta but I haven't tested it.
works for any combination of jimmy, argenta and ulfar as far as I can tell. the soul trap bugged out still for me, i just didn't get the scene
>works for any combination of jimmy, argenta and ulfar
Oh cool, good to know. "Killing Blow" randomly failed for me sometimes so I did the fight until it worked. I know it gets you 2 TempestCounter points if it works right.
Frick me. I'm gonna have to hold out on my nobleRT run if Marazhai's this fricked. I was gonna have that be the one where I do the romance.
It's easier if you do sub route, don't care about true romance end, don't care about Archon end or don't care about officers. Dom RT + true romance + Archon + keep officers is doable if you know how it works and babysit it through every step basically.
Of course it's domRT that's the proper way.
nah... i like being dominated
What a gay lol.
when playing as a girl only. when playing as a man i'm topping
I have no desire to do his romance with a male RT
FemRTs also 100% dom him because otherwise you can't do a proper threesome with Jimmi.
Think anon think
>you can't do a proper threesome with Jimmi
if that was a thing you'd have a point, but alas. women continue getting the short end of the stick huehuehue plus you'd have to purased jimmy, and that's the harder challenge
Jimmi will do anything for a game of regicide.
Nta but you don't really dom him, he makes you play act a dom while teaching you how to not be a dumb mon-keigh. The only thing you get with Jimmi is if you mess up Marzipan's romance you can offer him Jimmi or another party member to murder so he stays with you.
>you can offer him Jimmi
no...
There are also several times he expresses interest in torturing Jimmi and turning him into his pet, Jimmi takes it poorly.
>femRT flooding the upper decks every time they interact
>Cassia probably as well
I'm usually into fujo stuff but this does nothing for me for some reason. It's fricking hilarious though.
same
Technically it does nothing for me either beyond hilarity.
God I am going to kill that xeno so fricking hard
>b-but your iconoclast
and he's and evil bastard so he gets the bullet
Ah, what could have been if only they didn't cuck us out of a heretic route
>threesome
>with a filthy mon-keigh
never ever and that's a good thing
you will have sex with two monkeys or you don't get sex at all. now back to your cuckcage
See this anon has the right idea!
Alternatively throw him in the cuckcage but then get dommed by him anyway.
oh he's getting lots of it from my femRT and no jimi or cages involved
honestly watching people be scandalized by you having his brand is half the fun
the rest being the sex
so here's the plan on how to save imperium: figure out a way to harness emotions the way dark eldar do. harness jimmy's seethe from watching his waifu get branded by mareazhai
They are both great and really Marz is in charge in the dom RT route anyway, he just hides it better. The problem with dom RT is it's a challenge to also make him Archon because you lose points for branding him so you have to make those up by letting him have free rein of the ship which is currently buggy.
Honestly, I don't really care for Owlcat ending slides truth be told. I'll just play whatever and headcanon the end like I did for literally every other character in every game of theirs I've played.
I really like how it changes the confrontation with his drukhari buddies but otherwise sure, go for it but keep toybox handy.
Dark Eldar get to be exempt because they're a background villain faction in 40k, thus the writets don't care about them beyond having them show up and be bad guys every once in a while.
Craftworld Eldar however are subhect to the influence of a writer whose idea of making them 'tragic' is to make them incapable of winning or being happy in a meaningful way, which often leads to episodes of plot-induced stupidity or randomly grimderp moments for Eldar ANY time they appear in a story.
This is why I like to let Yrliet do the ritual even if it breaks the romance. She can find meaning in following the Path of the Warrior and helping her kin, that's pretty happy and a win for her.
>Path of the Warrior
>happy and a win
Anon, I'm so sorry.
I'm not new, I get 40K is grimderp and Eldar are written to be tragic, they could have done a sad ending in a better way without plot holes.
>You literally visit a crone world where they are harvested
>You have Jae who can most likely aquire some through Cold Trader Kasballica ties
>You have multiple Farseers in your debt that could help
>It's implied RT lives short, but biomancy and tech can extend human lives into high hundreds or even over a thousand depending of what you use
They could have made it a tragic end in a more sensible way - one gets assassinated for being a species traitor etc
>It's implied RT lives short
No such thing is implied. Only that they live short BY ELDAR STANDARDS. Which, uh, duh.
Isn't lifepsan for a normie Eldar (not farseer warlock or special strong character) 1.5-2k years?
A biomancer could match it. And tech could last a good chunk
Eldar can live a very fricking long time if allowed. Eldrad is over 10,000 and he's only slowed down because he's literally turning into a rock.
Yeah but I meant the average joe naturally.
Vect is over 10k too but it's implied that it's quite a feat and not domething normal
Not implied, outright stated by Yrliet in the game that a lot view him the same way humans view the Emperor due to his power and age
No.
They aren't immortal I think in Asurmen it is mentioned that the pre-fall natural Eldar lifepsan was in "hundreds of cycles" but they extended it to effectively immortal. Post fall I think it might be <4-5k
Eldar aren't immortal like tolkien elves
I tired looking this up everything gives different answers when it comes to average Eldar.
There's no concise answer because the only writer at GW who cares about Eldar really only cares about killing them.
Tbh, those might be full
No, when you give Eklendyl the trapped farseer soul he grabs a soulstone off a nearby table and puts the soul into it. It's so dumb.
I don't understand why she can't just get a farseer to get a new one for her. Your choices can allow some of her craftworld's farseers to still be alive, and the one that comes with you from Commoragh should be willing to help her not lose her soul to Rape Satan.
Even if Yrliet isn't liked by the other dickhead elves it can't possibly be to the extent they would be like 'Yeah no, frick you, go be eaten by the Archenemy'. Especially not when they could trade with the rogue trader for helping with a new stone.
Yeah it's particularly stupid when you find soulstones throughout the game and that same farseer puts an Eldar soul into one.
>Even if Yrliet isn't liked by the other dickhead elves it can't possibly be to the extent they would be like 'Yeah no, frick you, go be eaten by the Archenemy'
Actually ridiculous, you can have Muaran and Eklendyl both in your debt and none of them would help Yrliet while they're chilling on your planet? And for fricks sake if you fail the skill checks Yrliet almost kills herself saving Marazhai from having his soul eaten because she says no matter how evil deldar are she can't stand by and let Sai'lanthresh take him.
Hello, anons, Jae Heydari here
So, lately my man has aquired a "meditation friend", some pointy-eared harlot who doesn't know her place. He says they don't have sex and want to "establish a bond" and "know each other", whatever that means. But I just know she's spreading her xenolegs for him. I mean, who cares about that, I'm hotter and better in bed anyway, but I don't want some alien wench to eventually steal my man.
What should I do?
You should go outside and touch gas.
Outside being the vacuum of space, preferably near a corrosive gas cloud.
>Did Dogmatic
>Haha I shall wait for DLC
>Assassin and Arbites are literally 95% guaranteed to be Dogmatic if not put up with Iconcuck
>Heresy just has to deal with mercs for 2+ years
lol
lmao
>The setting is pro-imperial!
Either support chaos fully or don't. I don't even heresy, I just want a full exposure
Bros...
Im getting so filtered by yremeryss on hard
Mmm, what's the matter mon-cake? Can't stand the sight of strong aeldari woman filtering your wiener? Calcazar took CBT like a champ
The one weird trick is to run downstairs asap and have Yrliet snipe her. Haven't tried it on hard but this makes daring very easy.
It seems to be the only way
the issue is, however, doing so before she and the 4 incubus kill half your party first, since they all roll high in initiative and pack a lot of pain.
Had to do this fight several times because of Marz-related bugs so I think I get it: before the fight starts you place everyone on the stairs as far away as you can get. The highest anyone can be without getting hit by incubi the first round is the tile closest to the stairs. Put your tanks there with everyone else hiding behind them (to try and survive Yremeryss shooting at them). If you have GS Pasqal he can help by putting zones up immediately. Then you start moving downwards as fast as you can while sniping the grotesques, works most of the time.
Alright boys
I think Ive managed it right after posting that
Had to sacrifice Abe on the first turn to cover for the squad (unnecessarily in retrospective, since I forgot about his naval officer abillity), patheticaly Marzhai dropped dead to some bullshit, think that Ulfar, who was tanking like a motherfricker, kicked an Incubus on him right when things were turning up for us.
Every thing was going fine and managed to single her out and take her to double pounding town with Ulfar and Jimi while my PC gave covering fire, then she did her full heal extra turn bullshit trick and killed Jimi and downed Ulfar and called two 2 extra incubus who immediately played their turns and minced my PC since he was with his lasgun on his hand instead of his melee.
They immediatly go for Yrliet, who was the only one standing up and clibing up the stairs, and who thankfully had a shit ton of MP to gain distance for long enough for Ulfar to get up again and absolutely rape them with a heavy bolter from behind.
>think that Ulfar, who was tanking like a motherfricker, kicked an Incubus on him
haha, i'm sure he didn't do it on purpose, haha
the wild froggy (mimic) @ppe@rs!
Bolter Operator yay or nay?
You can probably make it work, but why?
>elantach save my innocent kins from winterscale's people
>but eldar attacked their world first
>then they deserved it
Why is she like this?
Just because she warmed up to you doesn't make her any less racist. You're her one exception. She values you more than other Eldar, but she values other Eldar more than every other human.
Tbh it does sometimes seem like she became slightly less racist. *Slightly*
Im pretty sure she just decides that you are one of the "good" ones. That and realising how braindead 2/3 of her own race is.
She can side with you to kill Muaran and Eklendyl though.
To be fair they had a reason.
The funniest thing about the eldar in this game is that a dogmatic character is more likely to agree with them, but you need to be iconoclast to tolerate them enough to ally. Meaning that then you dislike them not because they're Xeno but because they are also dogmatic c**ts only in favor of the eldar.
Anon, would it be viable to make Yrliet dual-wielding eldar pistol build?
You'd have to respec her from the ground up with toybox
>the least romance of all the romances
You come inside her soul
Dead game.
Patchie when
They said mid February
I thought some patch is meant to be either today or tomorrow
mid february was for a big patch. today or tomorrow will be a small patch
I whipped the misbehaving elf
Is she going to be okay?
Yes but you failed the romance.
Well, she's not into it:/
Is there anything she is into? Other than calling everyone monkeys?
Nah, she's a craftworld eldar.
Handholding, meditating, sniffing, complaining, getting to know you, belittling others. Also, maybe she's actually a closeted pervert who wants to frick you, but at the same time doesn't and is disgusted by the thought
She would be a genuine femcel irl
Even Wendu was less creepy
>even Wendu was less creepy
Wendu had above average Wis. She was actually fairly rational. She was also just abrasive as frick.
>Wenduag
>rational
I love that mutant spidercatgirl, and think she has the best romance Owlcat has ever done, but she's moronic. Which is cute. But she's still dumb as a brick.
Depends on what you mean by dumb as a brick. She was for example the only one that correctly guessed in act II the crusade was about to get air raided because nobody watched the sky. And while mechanically most of her kingdom decisions were dumb, some had a brutal but pragmatically correct line of thought.
So shit int, good wis.
>pragmatically correct line of thought.
Yrliet had some of that too in colony management, which was a breath of fresh air from her usual low IQ
>Yrliet had some of that too in colony management, which was a breath of fresh air from her usual low IQ
It was really the only time she was smart. Otherwise she knew shit but was entirely ruled by emotions funny enough.
>It was really the only time she was smart. Otherwise she knew shit but was entirely ruled by emotions funny enough.
I liked how she got you to destroy the Engine Vandals, that came in handy. Also people keep calling her dumb but yeah it's more that the warp and her shitty circumstances made her give in to emotion. Before that she was level-headed enough to consider the evidence that there was a Slaanesh cult on Janus. Also note that she actually realized Scalander was acting shady and followed him to find out he was working with deldar, no one else did that in the months that the RT, Jimmi, the Werserians etc spent hanging out on Dargonus.
>was level-headed enough to consider the evidence that there was a Slaanesh cult on Janus
But was also angry enough to curse Muaran in Khaine's name.
Yeah that's the emotional part. What's sad is both Yrliet and the farseers tend to have this irrational hatred for each other caused by unfairly blaming each other for Crudarach because they feel the need to blame someone.
Muaran doesn't really blame Yrliet, he blames humans. He just treats Yrliet like an ass because she's an outcast
Outcasts aren't supposed to be hated though, he dislikes her because it meant she wasn't there when Crudarach fell.
>Outcasts aren't suppose to be hated
They kind of are. Outcasts are those that reject the paths and go out and do whatever. Some become rangers like Yrliet, others become corsairs. But ultimately they're all people that rejected craftworld society. Hated isn't the right word either, but like disregarded or discriminated against.
Game sometimes has Yrliet say she's on a path and that can lead one to believe that there's a path of the outcast, but there really isn't.
Outcast is the "Path of What I Was Going to Do Anyway" basically.
Well, some people look down upon outcasts for their ways, or just culturally shocked by them
He doesn't hate Yrliet because she was an Outcast, he hates her because Crudarach Eldar traditionally went to the Path of the Warrior following the Path of Awakening, that way they can be trained in military procedure and ritual and better protect the Craftworld.
Yrliet went straight to Outcast after Awakening, effectively shirking tradition in favor of her own desire to wander.
If that is true it is stupid, because path that eldar follow is supposed to suit them, *especially* one as dangerous as path of the warrior. It's not some kind of "next step", it's more of a calling. I hope you're exaggerating
The issue is that the Path of the Outcast is effectively the Path of not having a Path. It's openly admitting that you have no calling, and that your only desire is to aimlessly wander until you feel like contributing to society.
I know. The point is that poster I replied to said that Yrliet is disliked not for being an outcast, but for not becoming a warrior
Also, Outcasts do have some forms of calling and desires besides wanderlust, as per Path of the Outcast novel, they're just different
The Outcasts are the autists of the Eldar. It all makes sense now!
>How do you deal so much damage, Yrliet
>Weaponised autism, Elantach! It intensifies in response ti emotional trauma!
You became a wizard after 30 years as a kissless virgin?
Then imagine the power a 200 year old Yrliet wields!
>eldar, truly the superior species
The whole thing makes them feel ridiculously "human".
*sigh* Why do all girls I like has some form of brain damage
What if I am into her not being into it?
Then you're monkeigh.
I am. I'm the silverback bullmonkey who owns the ship and half the expanse. Whipping it is, xenoprostitute.
I mean, the deldar is right down the hall if that's what you want.
Necrons are cringe. I want to deal with Men of Iron instead.
Which Owlcat's games have the best romance options?
Hopefully Owlcat will stop making these separate ministories as dlc. Those two they announced sound good. But there is still an option to select different campaign when starting a game which worries me.
I'm running an unpatched pirated copy of the game, and I've made it to act 5 without anything signifcant breaking (I had to fix some flags in Cassia's quest because she suddenly did a 180 flip that made zero sense). Do I dare continue, and try and complete an owlcat game unpatched?
I had almost no problems on the launch version, just the first Necron planet bug which you can toybox out of or not go to the planet and some companion quest frickery. If you've made it this far you're fine, just except ending slide weirdness because they still haven't fixed those.
Cassia is my favourite Owlcat romance
what can I say, I'd rather squish the fish than fug the bug
Who should I take on a trip to an elf city? Who is the most fun there? I know that jimmy apparently has a fun dialogue.
Argenta, Idira, Jae, Jimi.
Jimmi, Argenta, Idira. Do not bring Abelard there for his own sake
Damn, My tactics in part relied on Abelard tooonking bigger threats so far. Maybe that space marine can replace him.
Yeah, it's rough not having him there for the first few fights.
>Maybe that space marine can replace him.
Lol, he's ridiculously fragile for a supposed badass. The actual (dodge) tank is the deldar but it takes a while until you get him and you have to give him some decent talents and equipment.
>Do not bring Abelard there for his own sake
yes, instead leave him behind and let him blame himself for letting another rogue trader disappear/die on his watch 🙂
> disappear/die on his watch
Are you planning to live in Cumrag your entire life?
you spend some time here. at least several weeks if not months. that's several weeks for abelard to blame himself. he probably aged more from that alone than from his encounter with ctonos
He'll be fine. He's built to last. They don't make them like Abelard anymore.
Rent free, too
cumrag most likely smells worse than india what with all the dead bodies they simply let hang out
>smells worse than india
Not physically possible
I assume some monsters eat them eventually.
Jimmi absolutely, Argenta and Idira can become friends there, bring your love interest for extra content. Abelard may be useful but it gives him a bad ending slide (possibly because of a bug) so maybe don't do it. Pasqal and Jae have some stuff too.
What is the time frame of the game plot? How much time does pass?
Kingmaker as just shy of 5 years iirc
Is there a higher quality version?
Here's the thread with other replies not in the pic https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/664534535/
Reminder that the Guardsman was tortured and executed for Heresy.
source?
The stories are from one of the INFERNO! collections. He popped up in another one as a minor character after having been apprehended, I forget which one.
Ulfar's is great. Perhaps a clown could chime in on the whole issue?
He did along with Marzahai and Argenta check the bottom of linked thread
post the large version and the Nocturne and Marazhai parts
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die in a fire phoneBlack person
the RT romances are
>an autist
>a fujo
>a fed
>a prostitute
>and a murder prostitute
when did owlcat become so based?
female autism is cute
you forgot to mention that the fed and the fujo are also autistic
>a fujo
Who? There are no fujos.
>he doesn't know
>he is not aware
>he remains ignorant
Actually, what happens if you take custom mercenaries to Commorragh?
They get locked in with haemonculus and you can free them there.
what's up with morons saying Ulfar is somehow bad?
dude tanks damage like nobody else and is both great at melee and range
other than getting stuck in terrain he's amazing, plus the saga and wolf autism is endearing
his charge doesn't work half the time, bolt pistol doesn't work in melee, vene though it should. He has funky talents and skills picked. other than that he's fine. Never had any problem with a terrain even
>his charge doesn't work half the time
For it works, but in a silly way. Which is
>charge
>shoot with a bolt pistol
Which sucks, but at least it's still an attack for the purposes of building versatility stacks.
I really like the saga stuff but maneuvering him around in fights is obnoxious and he doesn't tank THAT well.
I've finished jimmy's act 4 quest.
1. i don't want to bully him anymore
2. I understand why abelard is so against him getting close to the rogue trader
good quest. very succinctly shows how the inquisition operates and how they will throw anyone under the bus even if unwillingly. Such a good fricking quest. My only beef is how there isn't much interaction between the dialogue choice you make at the end of it, and the conversation you have with him on the birdge. you can leave very vintriolic comments while on the planet, but on the bridge it's still all like "don't be sad uwu, let's play chess and have sex". C'mon!
his romance is a mess, one moment you have to baby him in commoragh even if your character is also a biomancer who just got tortured, next moment he's yelling at you about keeping xenos around
maybe bugs and sloppy coding like how you still can't talk to yrliet about her people after romancing her
schizo writing seems to be a running theme in owlkek romances. They really don't know how to string different dialogue choices to form a coherent dialogue
It sometimes feels like there are different people writing dialogue for the same character and they don't talk to each other. Like how Marazhai is a completely different character when you romance him in Commoragh vs when you romance him on the ship, not to mention flags and etudes being completely mixed up. It may also be caused by rushed development and having to change quests to fit them in so it makes them bug out. Pretty sure the majority of companion quests and errands had some kind of bug for me and they still haven't fixed a lot of them.
Issue is that romances often conflict with the regular questline, resulting in apparent schizo behavior.
Owlcat really needs to just learn to disable certain flags for events and dialogue if a character's being romanced.
>he's yelling at you about keeping xenos around
That's sounds like an easily solvable problem.
yeah i told him to get over it and marz told me to keep him on a leash
kissing the mutant in her lips
Total Jimmis Rustling!
Total /tg/ dominance. You WILL play regicide and enjoy it.
I really don't like regicide though. Can we play something else? Like Wordbearers Against Humanity or something?
That's it, (set Etude HeinrixRomance to: failed, start etude TotalRTHatred)
Oh no, haha
you're gonna play Monopoly and you're gonna like it or no pussy tonight
ah, the Marazhai kiss approach to romance
relationships are like that. you gotta give as much as you take
>Achilleas is a traitor working with xenos
woah, who could have expected this
Do you ever find out if he knew he was working with Yremeryss? I initially thought it was done through proxies and he was just stupid about it but you then find out Calcazar allied with her through Emelina's agents.
He was literally tortured and broken by Marazhai. If you don't have Yrliet around, he's joining you on the trip to Commoragh and gets turned into a Wrack.
Not that, the part where even before that he was getting all his info from Yremeryss because Yremeryss and Calcazar had an alliance where she stole suns for Calcazar and gave him info on Marazhai's raids.
I stopped taking argenta with me. I'm now having fun with combat and discovering what other characters can do. It's great
Can a ranged psyker abilities only build be good or is just an early game meme?
It's great, you can turn Idira into a murder machine just with talents, shriek and lightning from staff.
So which disciplines should i choose to blast shit from range?
It can be great. The best discipline is telepathy. Psychic Assault is awesome.
What about class, warrior for extra tankiness?
I went with soldier for an extra attack with Run and Gun. And with master tactician for Press the Advantage which gives you huge damage boosts starting from ~2nd round.
If you want to do the same, I'd recommend also picking sanctic discipline for buffs to momentum and for Hammer of the Emperor.
Malefic daemonology when? Its not fair we only got sanctic daemonology.
Total Fox Death.
How is the other 2 Owlcat games? I heard the combat is super hard so you have to min-max to even stand a chance
Kingmaker is janky garbage and not worth playing. WotR is pretty good, but it's held back by the Pathfinder tabletop system simply not being very good, and it has a bunch of bloated feats that should exist (for example weapon specializations for weapons that barely exist, or straight up dont exist within the game outside of generic +1's etc).
yes its stupid as frick its all about stacking as much buffs and ac as possible and armor is completely useless
>I heard the combat is super hard so you have to min-max to even stand a chance
only if you play above normal difficulty. you don't have to min max on daring (or maybe even core), but you have to know what you're doing because the build autism is 100 more expansive than in rt. be prepared to read a lot. the games themselves are great, but not as good as rt in most regards, but that's just my opinion, most would probably disagree
Character building is extremely obnoxious if you're not familiar with the system, like you need to have taken such and such crap by this level or you've fricked up your entire build, or your character is useless until the whatever bonuses kick in and you can actually fight. Companions have an auto level option that usually ignores skills you need so to give them decent skills you have to read up on the details of all their shitty builds and what to take on each level. I have zero trouble with RT talents but Pathfinder shit feels like a constant chore and that's not even bringing up the need to buff all the time, at least you can't do that before fights in RT.
Having heard not really bad stuff but about Pathfinder being really punishing i was a little bit afraid of jumping into RT but i have to say, unless you're too stupid to go through these obvious talent lines that create synergies, its quite difficult not to get satisfyingly OP in this.
I have to disagree with the other anon about the character auto-levels. Their builds are fine for the most part, but they have a few wasted levels especially the mythic abilities (which are really important to be fair)
Issue is that if you change a single level of the auto leveling, you have to do it manually for the rest of the progression.
First time going through the game on normal or core you're fine with the auto level though.
>Issue is that if you change a single level of the auto leveling, you have to do it manually for the rest of the progression.
This right here is my problem, I'd happily leave them and not bother with it but sometimes none of your party members have the skills you need even if they'd be perfect for them but to do that you have to do their entire build.
My biggest issue was Arue's mythic abilities selection I recal. They were fricking moronic. Something like an ability that boosted natural weapon damage because succs have natural weapons (claws), except she's a goddamn fricking ranger. She doesn't USE her claws in melee at all.
I think they also gave Wenduag the brew potions feat. On a fighter, that doesn't cast spells, so she can't even brew potions, literal wasted feat.
She comes with brew potions pretty much. It's a level 1 thing.
Are there even any checks for Commerce? I don't remember there being a single one and i'm in chapter 4 already. I keep pumping my commerce for rp reasons, but, you know
getting best rewards from rykad governor
sometimes an option to persuasion/coercion checks like cassia dialogue or talking calligos out of eldar murder
some flavor dialogue with dargonus nobles
I israeliteed Calcazar, which gave me buffs to all planets
wtf, I wanna do it now. I didn't have that option. If the inquisition is using me i might as well use them. Maybe it's only if you get black. I got crimson. btw post black signet stats
game should have more equipment slots. too many good ones
>tfw only gotten white so far
>my last few guys are going to go anti dogmatic full stop.
Abelard, Hang out with me. How's your children doing?
They have been losing their heads lately, Lord Captain
>Lord Captain, my granddaughter is single and highly interested in whichever hobby you,l're currently pursuing. Would you like to meet with her?
>Abelard my hobby is getting mating pressed against a regicide table. If that's what our granddaughter is into then I hear the young heir of House Gaprak is an avid regicide player
Am i blind or is precise bolter just infinitely better than heavy botler?
Heavy bolter have better rate of fire and ammos
Heavy bolter also has perks that benefit it more and that power armor that reduces the ap for it
Depends on your team comp.
If you get a lot of +% damage then Precise Bolter is better.
If you're not stacking RoF over 14, then Precise Bolter is better.
If you are stacking RoF upwards to 20+ then heavy bolter is better.
If you are using a lot of +flat damage buffs then Heavy Bolter starts scaling faster.
Personally I prefer Bolters on my Argenta just because style and They Shall Weep is incredible (chapter 5 bolter), but Heavy Bolters are generally better and the Improved Heavy Bolter is insane.
Yes except you dont have to reload every other volley or ever really, which doesnt make precise bolter better in the end.
just re-entered the thread heh
I have free reload on Argenta so it actually proved better. It also scales pretty well with everything, she melted Edge of Dawn away, it felt insanely powerful
bravo owlcat
I didn't get an option to ask the clown to help the survivors of the comissar's squad. why?
>lose out on an entire colony if you take the heretic option
>cant turn it into a chaos worshipping colony
they really hate heretics in this game huh
it's not that they hate it, it's just that they didn't have the time to implement it properly
Repostan this screen for the few anons that were asking me to post results of trying to save Yrliet's Soulstone
It still broke. Here is what I've did:
>interrupted ritual since it mind wipes her
>Icono alliance with Eldar on Janus
>Did both of Yrliet's side quests fully - finding all Eldar ships and all 4 Farseers in Commorragh
>Tell her not to blame herself for Crudarach and forgive the Farseer
Either my method was wrong or you can't save it and romance her. Judging by what others said about available endings the latter might be the case.
>save Yrliet's Soulstone
while romancing her*
Thanks, really seems like there's no way around it, whichever anons claimed there was were bullshitting. Did the ritual work though, I know that one is just based on Path of the Warrior/Damnation flags and telling her not to blame herself gives her Damnation flags which can cause the ritual to fail.
In the main save I interupted, but my damned flags are higher it seems (as per acemi editor) so would have flopped anyway
If you had the same amount of warrior/damnation at the start of Quetza you can get one more warrior flag in the Eldar-Calligos-Yrliet confrontation by telling Yrliet the Eldar are in the right.
I assume that was the Adress Yrliet > Do you still think they are worth saving + other option dialogue
I picked the first one because I thought it was more of questioning and not choice between the 2
But I'll roll with it, haven't beaten the game yet hope endings are fixed
Yeah, that's it. I went back and picked that because you otherwise get the Eldar coming to kill everyone outcome.
Ending slides are still a mix of ok and contradictory bullshit, not sure how Yrliet's are in the latest patch.
I hope Muaran and Eky will be bros and talk them down.
So the Expanse doesn't bleed because of the impulses of 2 young lovestruck morons
If Muaran's alive and you did the Janus planet events right he talks them down I'm pretty sure.
So what you build on colony does actually have impact and it's not just "fill all slots eith 0 consequences"?
Buildings don't matter what matters are the answers to events.
Just side with Yrliet whenever she gives an opinion. Otherwise pick whichever has the highest chance of success.
a little bit. FOr me the janus final event referenced several of the projects I did there
Buildings give different answers to the events.
For example in the last event, you have to brave through a massive storm to get to the source of said storm. If you accepted the inquisition's presence in the earlier event, you get an option for her aiding you. If you kept the weirdo mutants without killing them or hurting them, one of them offers to lead you through the storm. But there's always a base option that's hard but not impossible to get you to the end.
The final choice I think is the most important, at least for Janus. You gotta make sure your forces successfully reach the center of the storm, and once there they can aid the blue spirits against the purple ones.
You need to do a max level project on every colony and do the last event well. Like on Janus if you get the wraith war event and take Yrliet's suggestion to side with the blue wraiths and it works, you're good.
Oh ok thanks.
I wish there were more colony project options for my iconotard character though, most of them seem like OOC picks for him.
Yeah, I always go through the list and try to pick the least bad ones. And I still didn't have drusians rep for the Vheabos one so I went with the outcast palaces even though I didn't want to do the xenos intoxicant one. But at least all my colonies survived and with icono 4 you can throw in some utopian shit like "maybe let a few commoners have elected positions sometimes" and "maybe have priests be sort of helpful sometimes" .
>Yrliet scored herself a unspoiled blonde mon'keigh pet to train
Eldar love A10 eyes, this is why Big E is also racist, turks can't achieve them
They talk them down on Janus but I'm not sure how it goes with the rest of the Expanse.
>impulses of 2 young lovestruck morons
Abelard, Idira summarize them
Does anyone else roast RT x Yrliet besides Argenta and Jimmi seething at them a bit
I think the only two conversations are those two.
Argenta's the funniest because of the VA. The way she speaks the lines is great.
I've just seen Argenta and Yrliet arguing with each other over it and the Abelard and Idira comment
Abelard complains that Yrliet takes up too much of the RT’s time and Irida complains the voices in her head keep talking about them
Cassia seems to like it, she says there's a silvery blue glow around them and their feelings exist on some unknowable level.
cassia says that about everyone (maybe not marazhai). she just likes romance
>lovestruck
Those 2 are her bulls you just rescued stupid frick shit-eating owlcuck tranimal. They are going to ravage EVRY SINGLE HOLE TO THE POINT OF PROLAPSE ON YRLIprostitute'S BODY
YOUR BLONDE TWINK WILL BE KNEELING BEFORE HER HANGING PROLAPSED ASSMEAT WATCH THE XENOBEASTS CHEW ON IT AFTER THE ELDAR HUNKS FINISH
Why didn't you bring along the main Dark Eldar bull as well while you were at it? He's not in the screenshot. Maybe he would have given your twink's shit-stained monkey ass some attention after he takes a break from flooding all of Yrliprostitute's whole's with siperior Eldar hunk seed.
meds (seriously)
not the best wording, but not wrong either
I got her to call the eldar off by letting her do the ritual, with a full dogma character at that.
Nice, I had to tell her it was fine for the Eldar to attack the planet because I didn't have enough flags without that.
Dogma characters are actually more likely to do with the path of the warrior flags since those are all about sacrificing for your people and such. Just you know, her people are filthy Xenos.
>a dark eldar armour that makes the wearer immune to bleeding
WHO DESIGNED THIS????? Is this some elaborate torture device?
Whats the point of operative when soldier/warrior are better depending on your playstyle?
Heretic playthrough seems way better than everyone was saying.
Lot of crazy choices locked behind Fanatic Heretic level that I guess a lot of people didn't manage to unlock.
>no update
Dropped game?
Scam?
Why are you such a galactic thunder Black person?
Owlscammer
My idira randomly gets extra turns and I can't figure out out. oh well
What second archetype have you given her? Do you have the psyker power that moves her forward in the turn order?
bounty hunter. yes, I have given her Precognition power, but she get extra turns (with 2 ap) in the middle of other characters' turns before ihave an oportunity to do anything with her. I have a suspicion that it's one of bounty hunter's talents
yeah, I do, but i think she gets extra turns when i'm pretty sure no one even kills anyone, just deals damage
wait i figured it out. bounty hunters with the talent get extra turn even when cover is detroyed lmao
Do you have the bounty hunter thing that gives you extra turns when someone kills prey? I love that one.
Somebody please salvage my pyro build
>pyro
>officer (or w/e is the one that gives extra turn)
>level 18
I have the one that burns, it does frick all damage, the ability that spread the burn but i cannot do them in same turn so its dogshit. Chain lightning on the staff does frick all as well, the black b***h's chain lightning does x2 the dmg.
I have some cloak the makes me immune to burning and I can take the shit that gives me +1 psy if im bunring, not sure if that would work but prob wouldn't salvage this dogshit build.
Why don't I just have better fire abilities? I didn't sign up for this shit arsatsdggggg. My main char is literally the most useless out of my 6 chars, he just gives extra turn to nun who blasts. I dont want to cheat and toybox respec but I might since pyro seems dogshit. i thought it would be a fire mage
You're an officer there's only like 2 ways to make you do damage, all you do is give people turns
and why the frick is pyro so shit then?
It's not, read my post again
so wht the frick is the point of the game allowing me to pick pyro at the start if you literally cannot make it work with officer? w
It's called freedom of choice, there's prenty of weird niche builds
Find a way to make it work homie, or I will after I'm done with my raid
there are no useless builds in this game. stop whining and make it work
Pyro/Officer requires Greedy Officer build with the talent that says "every time you do damage, reduce enemy armor", or a dedicated flamer on your team.
Your actual pyro abilities aren't great, but you don't need them to be.
What you do need is Officer with the talents that buff yourself or your allies when you do shit, Master Tactician also focused in your own damage dealing, and then flame weapons.
If you insist on taking Pyro abilities you want to work your way to the "All burning enemies immediately take a burn tick and burning does X more damage." as well as the talent that makes all burning have a crit chance.
You're now all about running up and splashing fire on as many enemies as possible with your flamer, then using your burn-baby-burn ability and watching everyone melt.
Or give someone else turns so they can start the fire and you just accelerate it.
my build is fricking broken. Almost no enemy on Eufrates got to attack me at all, and if they did they didnt do shit. I melted Edge in 2 turns. Feels fricking great.
>froggy is seething so hard he can barely form proper grammar anymore
So, what's the best outcome for Footfall? So far it seems that no matter what you do the station's gonna be fricked
So i just finished Eufrates, how many hours left?
Got halfway into making an officer build then I realized "wow I fricking hate officer and he probably won't get anything from this anyway"
Anyways master tactician can ignore dodge and pyromancy can make burning do more damage
Just use your head
Act IV wasnt so bad at all, it just takes a little bit of effort to get back in the grind after making it through Commorragh
Nah, Act IV is a pretty big let-down narratively. They spend the whole game setting up Chorda and Winterscale and then you spend maybe 15 minutes with each of them.
>check the RT tag on ao3 for the laugh
>still mostly a flood or Heinrix and Marazhai
>actually a yuri one with Yrliet
God bless crazy fangirls.
mostly a flood or Heinrix and Marazhai
it's total jimmy domination. marazhai has maybe a dozen, if not less, and then there's winterscale fangirls
I admit I only skimmed through and say a bunch of male/female fics.
I can't find any Yrliet/maleRT ones, but there's 4 Yrliet/femRT ones.
>I can't find any Yrliet/maleRT ones
of course you can't. men don't write fanficion, and women only write male/female if the female is their self-insert
>of course you can't. men don't write fanficion
My friend, the superior way of enjoying 40k is via your own fanfiction.
That's a fair accessment I suppose. Though I'd argue if the fanbase was big enough it wouldn't be that odd to see.
i've dabbled in deffirent fandoms. the fanfiction where a blank state male mc has a female love interest is practically non-existant. it occasionally happens. but it's ultra-rare
It depends on if you end up with a femcel that self inserts into the particular female character, but you're right that the MC being a blank slate decreases the chances.
What I'm most surprised about is no Argenta/femRT ones. Not even one. You'd think that would be prime bait.
>blank state male mc
You mean because the RT is a blank slate in the game or do you mean fics where the MC is a blank slate?
i mean that if the mc of the game is a blank state and can be whichever gender, then the chances that the fanfiction is gonna feature a male mc/female established character romance are almost zero. it will be either female mc/male character or male mc/male character, because that's what gets the female juices flowing, and most fanfiction writers are women
>men don't write fanficion
They do, but are a minority on fanfic sites. Plus most of 40K fanfics written by men aren't gonna be about romance/shipping.
ADB does
who?
but women don't even like Warhammer
sure, timmy, sure.
>meanwhile in realspace
Still reninder that even Kunrad has a profile on character.ai and Yrliet doesn't lelelel
Yrliet's superior aeldari mind can't be adequately processed by inferior mon'keigh learning algorythms
I hope they redo the heretic run. Its Undivided, I get that, but its so fricking pointless and bland. It should be based on getting boons for the 4 gods, not on just being Puppy Kicker Supreme.
*from
I think it needs more of a slippery slope so you don't have to go around maniacally laughing in act 1 to get to the higher ranks.
I will never not be disappointed by this alignment system.
They really should not have had Iconoclast, they should have just had
Pure and then different stages of heresy.
Remove the [Alignment] tag, just make it so different options give you points (or not).
Heretics can get better gear, but also are more susceptible to certain effects or auto-fail resisting some story elements.
SOMETHING
That's dumb though
I agree, but it's not going to happen.
Alpha had a lot more info about the Slaanesh cult for example but GW had it axed before launch.
meanwhile, in the most rpg games of all rpgs
you can kill twenty civilians and no one gives a shit
ok, small dicked troony-hating incel chud
>Kill twenty civilians and nobody gives a shit
That sounds like a terribly unreactive world, anon.
Did GW really neuter RT?
Or is Owlcat lying?
what did owlcat say, provide source
No owlcat rushed it out the door
Owlcat hasn't said anything, we know they almost certainly screwed with it because there's a bunch of unused files from the beta with mass rewrites like an entire arc with a Drukhari clone of Yrliet.
>drukhari start mass producing yrliets and use them as means of psychological warfare
sick fricks
Man when I hear about the rewrites I get disappointed...what the game could have been if the original vision stayed so much awesome shit scraped and replaced with hastily put together content
At least the odds are most of the content that was cut for time will just be rolled into the DLC releases.
The problem is they most likely won't do any major touch ups to existing companions and add in quests or expand their stories in other ways. The DLC content will center around the new companions it adds. Unless they do a general story expansion pack for act 4 or something giving a bit for everyone.
There is a lot of inconsistent writing with certain companions and certain plot points getting resolved in a very unsatisfying way (Argenta and Theodora, Kunrad, Yrliet's soulstone etc.) that will most likely not get fixed
>Argenta and Theodora
This is the worst. I expected a "but" to the very end for that part of story and it never came. It's so hilariously stupid that Argenta just managed to kill both an extremely experienced Rogue Trader and her elite bodyguard before they could even move with a fricking pistol. I guess Emperor did guide her hand in that particular moment. On the same note, it would've been awfully inconvenient if she used a bolter while also being the only person who uses one on the entire ship.
>Didn't use her bolter
I suspect it's because at one point in the design they wanted melee weapons and pistols to use half actions, while two-handed ranged weapons needed full actions to use.
So using a pistol to kill an unprepared off-guard RT and her melta carrying bodyguard would make sense.
That may be true gameplay-wise, it's just strange narratively in multiple ways. Autopistol/chainsword is clearly a backup weapon combination but I guess you can easily excuse it by saying she just fought someone in close quarters and rushed into Theodora's room. And then there was a bodyguard in the middle of a rebellion who was not ready for the fight even though he should by all means have had an advantage over Argenta in a firefight in that situation. And the guy was also somehow completely unaware about what Theodora was doing. It's not like Mort was on his first day on the job, he should be well aware what chaos is.
I suspect if we get a prequel DLC we'll see Mort as blinded by his faith and trust in Theodora after all someone with the Emperor's blessing must be operating as the Emperor demands.
Alternatively we find out she fricked with his brain too during the mind lock process. Given he doesn't have many words to say during the prologue it wouldn't surprise me if she shut off parts of his brain or some other shit.
Yeah, I'd much rather have existent companions fixed or fleshed out and content restored. Like there was clearly a Marazhai quest on Santiel's Pride that got cut along with the rest of the level and you just get the bland crew killing on the ship instead even if being that happy with that is out of character for him. Yrliet would have had an entire plotline with the remnants of Crudarach but now they'd have to change the ending slides to fix it even if they add it back in.
>Drukhari clone of Yrliet.
how horrifying! I imagine her interactions with Marz were amazing
Owlcat hasn't said a damn thing.
As
said, there's a bunch of stuff cut from the beta, a bunch of unused stuff, a bunch of stuff suggesting some major rewrite happened (especially because one of the major modules they ripped off just abruptly ends), and then we have two or three voice actors now saying GW came in and either cut lines or edited scripts.
GW almost certaintly made a few mandates that we can be 100% sure of
No romance for Argenta.
Space marine companion (doubt they insisted on the chapter beyond making it one of the popular ones) and no romance with said space marine either.
Jury's out of they're the ones behind Yrliet's romance being something approaching asexual but I somehow doubt they cared. One thing that points to them not caring much about the knife ears beyond wienerblocking the usage of Vect, at least to me, is the fact they didn't even bother correcting how mon'keigh is pronounced and bringing it in line with other more popular works.
Beyond these, I figure they must have insisted it takes place post Cadia, though the effects of that aren't that apparent beyond an explanation as to why you need to chart new warp routes during act II.
>doubt they insisted on the chapter beyond making it one of the popular ones
Not deep into 40K lore, but realistically, wouldn't a member of any other chapter just leave you the second that you get back to the Expanse?
No.
Not many chapters are able to do much of anything in the Expanse, and there are quite a few lone marines who got lost during missions or got recruited for special jobs by inquisitors or deathwatch.
Shit happens.
The fact that the chapter is there AND he doesn't go back to them is kind of weird though.
makes sense because of the calcazar angle and the pack storyline
he does go back after that unless it's the wulfen curse ending
Depends on the chapter and the space wolves are ironically one that WOULD leave immediately since they're very insular. Ulfar stays because he's got nowhere until he figured out where the other wolves were.
Did you actually play the game? He's looking for his specific squad.
>they didn't even bother correcting how mon'keigh is pronounced
for all of RTs many many flaws, for some reason this sets off my autism the most
>NOOOOOO MY OBVIOUS Black person JOKE NEEDS TO BE SUBTLER
bruh
It's because it's a microcosm of how little GW cares about the space knife ears.
Thank god Abelard is here, my poor sniper RT was about to get raped by a horde of Daemonettes.
>RT was about to get raped by a horde of Daemonettes.
Abelard I'm actually fine, haha, you can return to your post
>He can't even melee
Shameful display
Goddamn bounty hunter idira slaps, she can buff, she can debuff, she can dps. argenta who? I don't need any arch-militant when I have my trusty unsanctioned psyker (only 10% chance she kills herself)
>get to footfall
>a big confrontation with kasballica and chorda brewing
>it's all resolved in 5 minutes and a single fight
uh. i feel like i missed something
nope,i also googled when it was done whether i missed something. Thats it.
What I don't get is why Chorda and Winterscale get these shitty bare bones quests but Eufrates has to be Kiava Gamma 2.0 with a billion shitty traps and bosses to trudge through.
I sometimes tell Jimmy I want to end things between us because the way his voice trembles when he asks if that's what I want makes me horny
>too centrist to pick any options
fugg
icono is a bit of a trap, basically
>oh you think you helped people by helping them not die of freezing and starvation
>well the overpopulation from people not dying actually causes crime so you are a bad person
oh for fricks sake if the problem is there are too many people there wouldn't my rt just recruit them to replace voidship losses or hire them for literally anything on any of those other planets
>wouldn't my rt just recruit them to replace voidship losses or hire them for literally anything on any of those other planets
>he thinks it's that easy
i feel like most people would prefer to live and die where they were born and hope to not have their organs harvested as opposed to becoming cannon fodder for demons, pirates and xenos
eh, pretty sure if life was bad enough you'd get lots of volunteers for generic worker jobs on random planets or something
india is a shithole regardless of how many poos canada takes in. so no, immigration doesn't solve that problem.
we're talking making footfall slightly better or at least not worse than normal footfall
of course footfall was pretty shitty to begin with
haha, I had the same problem. the most ridiculous part is when I told chorda that i don't give a shit about her little feud with the kasballica and she was like "well, then I won't let you go ANYwhere ont he station, and was like "ok? I don't give a shit, sister?", yet I'm stil able to go everywhere and the game still forces you to complete this quest. What a dumpster fire
damn, this same thing awaits me
all the other options suck anyway. Doing nothing is unironically the best outcome for footfall
>start that quest
>meet the pirate lady that I previously interacted only for trade
>I notice she has some coruption going on, but she poorly denies it
>start a fight with chorda
>the pirate lady says she got rid of all corupting artefacts and she is pure now, all within span of maybe few hours
Uhhh, character progression?
IIRC it's not Ryzza herself, it's that some of the Fellowship of the Void pirates were dabbling. After the close shave with you and Chorda, they fix that problem right sharpish. By way of gunfire and tossing things and people out of airlocks, mostly.
So for the weapons on the left and right, is the armor pen loss worth it for higher max damage, range and fire rate or is left one superior because of the armor pen
If you max out reputation with Fellowship of the Void you can get an item that increases rate of fire based on your BS skill. In chapter 4 you can find an item that does the same for weapons where the base rate of fire is 4 or below, if you use both of those items you can get a rate of fire of 40 with burst fire if you use the Sworn Protector or Hot Shot Lasgun.
The best one is the regular Hot Shot Lasgun you can find next to the landing pad on Janus.
Nah the best one is the Necrontech Hot Shot Lasgun you find in act 5
I mean in Act 2, like those wepaons in the pic.
I know and the Hot Shot Lasgun is honestly a great weapon all the way to act 5
i only replaced it for rp reasons
Speaking of eternity, in the game it says that the RT's dynasty is marked by Chaos.
So does that mean RT's soul will get the Eldar treatment from a particular Chaos God after he dies?
Every soul gets that treatment, human souls are just too small to feel it.
>Every soul gets that treatment
what. THEN WHAT THE FRICK ARE WE FIGHTING FOR?????
The Emperor.
but what about my soul?
If you're lucky Emps might take your soul instead of some demon, but don't count on it.
And in lore ordinary people don't know all of this.
what bullshit
we can't all be orks that just get downloaded into a new body for another go
>Be Warboss
>Get killed by Marine in big cool battle
>Be disappointed it wasn't a bigger Marine though
>Ask Gork and Mork to send you back so you can go fight a Primarch
>Wake up on Painboy's table, fixed up good as new
>Get back to krumpin'
>corpse-worshiper realizes the PRIMORDIAL TRVTH
Jimmi
Welcome to 40k. Heaven exists, but the Robotic Egyptian Skeletons waged war against the Psychic Frog Wizards sixty million years ago and it was fricked up beyond repair.
Not a lore expert, but from what I realize since humans don't have strong souls like Eldar, they aren't a full "entity" that can act in the warp like an afterlife, like Eldar do but they get tortured by Slaanesh for eternity. Humans are just a floating consciousness that can't really act or interact with much, it's just you and your thoughts floating around not even feeling the daemons bullying you. So you won't feel much bad shit, UNLESS you're a psyker - psyker souls are strong souls like Eldar so they are a "present entity" that can interact.
Correct, to add on it's not the same for everyone Orks for example reincarnate but lose all their memories, with a few extremely rare exceptions. (To be fair Orks don't really need them)
In old lore I think most souls were able to reincarnate chilling in the warp until the time came to play again.
Eh not so bad for humans.
Humans after death just dissolve into the warp, but it's never really said they simply cease to be in the warp as their essence just joins with the nigh infinite pool of souls, likely just putting them in a section of the warp that is small and away from demons where they can live out their weirdest dreams, likely still feeding the gods like perpetual batteries, or sometimes in cases like celestine, come back as an imperium aligned daemon prince(ess)(s). Orks reincarnate without interference since their "souls" make up the entirety of the ork gestalt Consciousness, as Waaaaagh energy is also the very weird essence of the Orks and their collectively shared rebounding system that is their Gestalt Consciousness. Chaos worshippers will sometimes be eaten and consumed by demons or become demons. As far as I can recall, that's what happens.
Eldar get the worst treatment at the hands of Slaanesh. 40K hates space elves really hard.
>40K hates space elves really hard
knife ears deserve it
At several points Chaos Gods, will pick out the souls of their dead followers (Only followers who have done enough to earn their notice, so maybe a tier or two below Khârn the Betrayer, in terms of abilities), usually they revive those followers or allow their souls to live on in the gods realm
For the Emperor
Why doesn't everyone make soulstone type things for themselves then?
Because even Eldar can't actually 'make' Spirit Stones, they're the coalesced psychic residue of the Eldar killed during Slaanesh's birth, and who are now trapped on the Crone Worlds to be tortured for eternity.
Votan bros upload their souls to a collective consciousness iirc
how the frick do I melt the ice world? I already did the contract but still won't allow me in
start aggressively flirting with it
I'm having fun in elf city so far. But I love this trope of losing equipment, companions and having to take it all back and escape. I like it especially since there is now a chance to fail some skill checks, now that I don't have full team and all those items buffing me.
yeah, it's great. after all the bugs got fixed cumrag is great, and I wish it was longer
Only thing I hated about cumrag was the save or die check.
Yeah, it's funny to see how many people were b***hing about being brought low in that segment since when I played it I was disappointed at how short the segment was.
I loved act 3, but it felt a bit rushed. I wish it was longer and had more in depth talks with companions. The part that felt the rushed the most (apart from Argenta's reveal being glossed over) was the main "political intrigue" being reduced to "just fight in the arena for me a few times and get me some samples" nothing with archon politics and other schemes/rivalries. I found the Drukhari stuff interesting and hoped there would be more Kabal politics/backstabing.
Does allying Marazhai add much to this or is it just one small side quest integrated into what you're about to do anyways? Never saw his content since he got sniped in my run.
>yrlietshitter
>aisloppa portrait
>killed best boy
yikes
>Mercenary I made at the beginning of the game, before even getting access to 5 premade companions, suddenly spawns out of nowhere to aid me in combat, even though I didn't take him along with me to elf city
lel
Until now only bug I had was Jae quest where she gets a "gift" from pirates triggering long before I gave her this document she wanted.
I wouldn't be surprised if we got a separate minicampaign with Eldar protagonist, even though I would prefer dlcs integrated with main campaign. But I wouldn't really complain about Eldar campaign either , given that I'm elfgay and assembling Eldar as my third tabletop 40k army If we got Eldar themed minicampaign, it would be easier to justify fricking around and politicking in Commorragh so return to it could be possible.
How did you recruit Yrliet first? I could only recruit her both times after arena fight
She's outside being emotionally tortured as soon as you get patched up by the snek.
Wasn't for me, only spawned after first arena fight
it depends on whom you took with you. argenta and abelard have the highest priority. Jimmy and Cassia the lowest and will always be the last to be rerecruited. Last time I went to cumrag I took yrliet, argenta, pasqal, jimmy and idira. argenta and yrliet were avilable first, then pasqal and idira, and jimmy last
yeah, she to fall into a bad company and I met her after leaving snek
based John. Loyal to the end
Abelard that man need no introduction!
I'd like an Eldar mini-campaign too
>I wouldn't be surprised if we got a separate minicampaign with Eldar protagonist, even though I would prefer dlcs integrated with main campaign.
They could do both, have the choices and consequences carry over. Like Varnhold's lot for kingmaker but better and fleshed out with bigger effect in main campaign. Could do that with Corsairs and Crudarach prequel or with Commorragh like you've said, I'd like to see either of those.
>I wouldn't be surprised if we got a separate minicampaign with Eldar protagonist
>here's a cool side campaign
>NOOOOOOOOOO I WANT MORE ADVENTURES OF MY OP ANIME PROTAGONIST NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>fine we won't do them anymore
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WANT A SIDE CAMPAIGN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
schizo fanbase
There is nothing schizo about it. I would prefer if there was simply more content added to the main campaign, so it's expanded and improved. But if an alternate minicampaign happened and it was about space elves, then in this case I would be fine with it, given that I like Eldar and playing from their perspective should offer really different gameplay and story experience. Eldar minicampaign would make quite a lot sense and should be relatively easy to do, given how many assets already exists for all those types of Eldar
why do all eldar guns have a distinct dildo look?
They ruined the universe with a centuries long orgy, that grew increasingly degenerate. Its hard for them to forget their roots.
An Eldar campaign would be such a laughably terrible choice that even Owlcat would never even bother trying it. Nobidy likes Eldar. They only sell bevause their tabletop rules are broken.
>Nobidy likes Eldar
>They only sell bevause their tabletop rules are broken
Anon, this is the video game board.
Guess what anon, there's a reason Eldar haven't had a game since 1999. It's because they suck as characters and nobody outside a tiny niche likes them.
That wouldn't be the first time I see someone being tremendously wrong about the pointy ears on this website.
The only one wrong here is you for thinking Eldar matter. They're not even a main faction in 40k any more. Hell they're not even a secondary faction. They're background filler. If GW wqsn't legally obligated to keep them around they'd have been scrapped years ago to save resources.
>The only one wrong here is you for thinking Eldar matter
They matter to me, as long as they are playable in games. Don't care about yet another spehs muhreens game.
he looks like a Mortal Kombat escapee
He went there to check if Shao Kahn would give amnesty for them, but not even he wanted to mess with the chaos god of buttfricking
>Jimmi and Marz will both get torture fricked in the warp - Jimmi being a psyker and Marz getting Slaany'd
>Femcel RT will just be floating around warp thinking about them not being able to do much, not realizing Nurglings are playing catch with her soul
Grim
sounds like sticom
Human psykers last longer but not by too much, they'll just feel it until their soul dissolves.
Eldar are fricked for eternity though. A bit literally.
So Jimmi's unironically doomed to soul rape in the warp just cause he's a psyker?
Grimderp just got grimmer
So femcels get NTR'd by Daemonettes?
Don't post this shit Froggy will latch onto it.
Eldar torture isn't as erotic as you might think, it's more just pure agony.
Like imagine having your skin flayed off, then your chest cavity is opened and a piece of red hot metal is wrapped around your heart. As they stitch you back up they pull out your eyes, keeping one attached at the nerve so you can watch as they eat the other one before shoving sharp glass shards into the empty sockets.
Then they pour acid down your mouth before sewing it shut with barbed wire, amd thencfor good measure they turn all the blood in your body into liquid mercury.
After that you get mummified with sandpaper and inserted into an iron maided, which they also fill with snakes before closing.
You can't scream, you can't move, you no longer have eyes to close, and the sound of hissing snakes drowns out any coherent thought you can have, which is hard enough already as your nerves are pushed far past any natural point of pain.
After a very long while they might open you back up to subject you to an all new even more painful sort of torture, because a tolerance for the old stuff might start to form.
no. efmcels will just become biomancers too. no one's taking their jimmy from them
In the warp, a human soul is just a daemon with better PR. ~ Gav Thorpe
If you become a Daemon Prince you could in theory claim Marazhai's soul as your pet, then turn him into a Daemonette.
Wouldn't that only work if you became a Demon Prince of Slaanesh?
Daemon Prince ending with Sub Marazhai implies you take him in as your eternal pet because he can't resist you.
How does that work if you're a Daemon Prince of Tzeentch? Would Slaanesh allow you to just keep him?
>Would Slaanesh allow you to just keep him?
Yes, but you're going to have to pay her with your butthole for him.
Only my butthole? How generous of him
She'll start there and work towards tye ither holes from the inside.
Don't worry though, there will be lube.
There has been cases of Deldar and Eldar submitting to the other chaos gods, and getting their protection from Slaanesh. Their end will still be horrible, but it will be miles better than belonging to Slaanesh.
Hey anons, remember those edited screenshots and ending slides people shitposted with in early threads?
Can anyone tell me where can I find that data for ending slides and conversation text?
SteamLibrarysteamappscommonWarhammer 40,000 Rogue TraderWH40KRT_DataStreamingAssetsLocalization
Pick the english one EnGb and find the dialogue or endings you want to edit. They aren't ordered very well so you'll need to dig, but it's easy if you know the text you're looking for.
THANK YOU
Fixing idira!
not worth playing till the enchanced edition right
what about blanks?
What about them?
>lord captain, we need to talk immediately
>god dammit what's he pissed off about now
>it's a fricking date
work on your lexicon, bro
so do humans ever get reincarnated as humans?
There was a guardsman whose faith in the Emperor was so strong he raised from the dead several times - does that count?
Also in old retconned lore souls frequently reincarnated from the warp iirc
But if the emperor doesnt interfere human souls are just these tiny little gusts of winds going through the warp?
Yeah just a floating consciousness that can't do much. But can be joinked under special circumstances.
>But can be joinked
joined what?
yoinked* Daemons Emps other deities etc.
In the guardsmans case it was all during one long and desperate trench fight, he became a living saint (albeit the weakest one to date), and after the trench fight was done, he died from his 8 or so fatal wounds, that he had risen from each time before.
Humans don't reincarnate, their souls dissolve into the psychic soup of the Warp.
Not anymore. Back before Slaanesh was murder-fricked to birth, there were semi immortal proto-psyker humans, called Shamans. The reason for their semi-immortality was that their souls reincarnated every time they died, but since the warp was going unstable(Thanks to said frickery), the souls started getting consumed by demons/entities in the warp. Realising this, the Shamans banded together to do a massive ritualistic suicide, to force the reincarnation to end all reincarnations to happen. Combining the souls and powers of all the Shamans and birthing the soul that would 9 month later be born into a baby Emperor. Since then reincarnation hasnt really been a thing.
Anon that's ao utterly wrong that I don't even know where to start.
The Shamans were the ones who made the Emperor, they died out way before Slaanesh's birth
They didnt make the Emperor, they made his soul that was born into a human (His whole obsession with human skulls, came from finding the skull of his dead birthdad).
While Slaanesh wasnt created yet by the time of the Emperors birth, it was the growing disturbances in the warp, that led the Shamans to do the ritual, and the warp was being disturbed by the Eldar millenium orgy.
>scrap code colony event is bugged and leaves you softlocked in the middle of space
Ironic.
AS THE HOURS PASS
The comissar's portrait has a "Can you believe this shit?" look
As the Emperor wills
>tfw you can rarely get concise answers about 40K lore since it changes on an author's whim and has a gorllion retcons
Anon, here's a neat trick.
Ignore everything you don't like that's outside a rulebook, and even some things inside the rulebooks. Build your own idea of what's 'canon' utilizing the pieces of lore that exist, bending things as much as you need so long as you continue to recognize that what you're doing is your own. 90% of Black Library authors are bad, most BL books are bad, most GW writers aren't very good and are told only to write what the marketing team wants to sell. Ignore it. There's a reason /your dudes/ are a thing, and that they'll always be potentially more intereating than already established groups.
I agree, well said
when do fanatic skill checks start showing up
It's by chapter.
So Follower first can show up in Chap 1
Adherent in Chap 2
Votary in Chap 3
Fanatic in Chap 4
I believe the final decision in Chap 4 for Heretic is the only one that requires Zealot currently.
>always thought that lann was cringe and didn't understand how anyone can romance him
>mfw realize that jimmy is just grimdark lann complete with clinginess, pocket spaghetti and suicidal tendencies
my god... what have i gotten myself into
I sure fricking hope they fix party banter soon. Not only does it trigger like once in a blue moon, but it also doesn't fricking check who's in your party or who has been recruited in the first place
All of this lore is pretty cool but it makes me think: Aren't the Tau just a lukewarm boring insignificant faction in this grand drama?
They are less than a rounding error to the Imperium. The thing is they arent a threat, but they represent a potential threat in time. All their technology came about in a really short time, so while they are utterly insignificant they could one day grow to be a formidable enemy (Which contrasts to the Imperium that is at best stagnant and usually deteriorating). If you want a truly insignificant faction the check out the Farsight enclave, which is a secessionist empire from the Tau.
Tau are a point of comparison through which other factions can be compared to refresh the ideas of how grimdark things are.
Tau are diplomatic, forward-thinking, sensible, dogmatic but not fanatical, and care for other races. They are everything 40k isn't. They also happen to only exist because of a literal clerical error on the Imperium's behalf, followed by the rampant neglect the Imperium showed to an entire sector. They're you and naive and have yet to see just how terrible a place the galaxy is.
They also have big mech suits and fricking rail guns, which is kinda cool.
>not a single eldar gloves or boots item in the game
they really didn't expect you to let that b***h live, huh?
And yet Yrliet's model doesn't show her barefooted. What a shame
I feel like being in Cumrag barefooted would be tantamount to a deathsentence. Imagine the sheer amount of used needles and shit on the ground.
GW forced Owlcat to remove that.
it doesn't show the little rock on her head, which looks funny