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  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do they really? I feel like the only way they could frick up Vegas is if you went with the Independent Anarchy ending

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes man still has the robot army so no. NCR would tho. NCR would take ages for their shitty version of congress to decide sending reinforcements which they don't hav and legion would just send human wave after wave with no actual battle plan.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >yes man still has the robot army so no
        Only in the Yes Man ending where you take control of the strip, Anarchy ending you blow up the securitron army

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It depends on your interpretation of the lore. Most likely not really. Chris Avellone the writer and director of most of the DLC said that Tunnelers originate from humans who are heavily mutated from long term FEV. Now how much credibility you want to give Ulysses speculative knowledge about mutant breeding is up to you, he says they reproduce fast but really how the frick can you trust he knows what he's talking about. He's been living in an irradiated shithole for four years.

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why was this guy so obsessed with keeping the world destroyed?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Glow in the dark CIA lizards

      Avellone and Sawyer are morons that forgot just how advanced Fallout 2 was

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It being advanced is what triggered Avellone in the first place, he didn't want the wasteland to ever advance.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guess because they find the concept of Post Post Apocalypse boring and detrimental to a franchise whose face value is "Post-Apocalypse" i.e. Mad Max ruined shitholes.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same reason the Morrowind guys nuked it for Skyrim and dead space nuked the franchise in the last expansion pack, "never let someone else ruin my stuff with a sequel"

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >dead space nuked the franchise in the last expansion pack, "never let someone else ruin my stuff with a sequel"
        Eh, it's more like there really isn't a way for humans to beat that kind of enemy.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dead Space 3's lore and "lol you thought you could beat this shit, dumbass?" ending were about the only good things it had going on

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The guys that really made Morrowind what it was, Douglas Goodall and Ken Rolston, were both gone by Skyrim, which is when the bullshit year happened. That wasn't "don't let anyone else ruin my stuff", it was spite towards people who complained that lore got worse in Oblivion.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Morrowind being nuked from space was always a sword of damocles though so I give that a pass.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Avellone hates nice things because he's a nihilistic frick, and Bethesda are morons who only want Fallout to remain murder hobo experience simulator where everybody is a hobo, lives in shitty makeshift shacks, and there would be no progress anywhere in the series. Avellone and Sawyer fell from grace and are bitter fricks nowadays, while Bethesda in general is creatively dead and has no vision so they just rely on like 5 key things and make games based on those 5 things where everything is disjointed and halfassed.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      the entire point is that the closer the world gets to pre war normalcy, the more likely they are to repeat the same mistakes that lead them to disasters like the great war.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        then how about you tell a story showing that instead of artificially introducing a wack antagonist and fricking mole men hoping people will like your idea to artificially destroy civilization

        seriously have the NCR expand and get into a nuclear conflict. Do a fallout game where you're trying to avert a nuclear catastrophe. It's an interesting plot direction

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >brainlet needs everything spelled out for him like a child in a roleplaying game
          hahahahahaha holy shit dude you are actually so fricking moronic. probably a legiongay too

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uhhhh yeah basically these creatures that avoid light and are hurt by it are going to attack the big shiny bright vegas strip because ummmm they just are okay!!!

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      They could do it at night.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        guess when the lights turn on

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think the concept was that because they dig tunnels everywhere they can turbofrick everything anyway
      >muh bright lights
      doesn't mean much when you tunnel into a building basement I guess?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        why would they even know of its existence in the first place? its like humans going to the inside of a valcano to frick up some fire elemental resort

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          that's kinda what happened. the bombs exploding the divide ripped their home open which is why they're now coming to the surface. really it's just a shitty dlc enemy you can safely ignore even without the meta bullshit.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          They don't have to know their location, the divide is simple close enough to Vegas that when the tunnelers inevitable keep breeding uncontrolled and expand they will be a impossible issue to deal with, maybe Vegas itself will stay safe.

          Besides Ulysses is canonically moronic and hard coping because of his life choices, you are not supposed to take what he says at face value.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >into a building basement
        >basement has lights
        oh no!!!!

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >*Evaporate its queen*

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    F3 dlc > NV dlc

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I never completed point lookout due to the damage bug with the double barrels and I absolutely loathed Zeta.
      I did like The Pitt though.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Not liking shielded aliens that scale to your level and are borderline unkillable if you enter the DLC at a high level

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          For some reason this made me think about Reavers and I blacked out for a second.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            How many caps worth of ammo does it take to kill one of these?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              All

              ?si=w-LCW_8HaLkv8--f&t=36

              You have my permission too cry.

              the time for tears is long over

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine a Reaver Deathclaw.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Goris?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, like, all twitchy with that insane damage buff and projectiles.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >horn missiles

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Reaver Deathclaw
                >200 billion HP
                >Glitched out immunity at random intervals
                >no ghoul mask to save you
                How dare you even joke like that

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Of course it was harder, he was playing as a woman.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              to the point of getting the ghoul mask is understandable just so u can ignore reavers in the subway passages during broken steel

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            You have my permission too cry.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I must've been a fricking god then because I slaughtered the frick out of the aliens at max level, that dlc was a joke compared to point lookout & the hellfire enclave in broken steel.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Neither game has any bad DLCs, they are all good (but the NV ones are better)

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ALIENS LMAO
      >COD LMAO
      granted point lookout was pretty cool, and i wish the whole game was just that instead. But cmon now

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only Point Lookout and maybe The Pitt

      Anchorage is average and Zeta is piss.

      Broken Steel should have always just been the post-game ending.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        And I still enjoyed them more than anything F4 had to offer Automaton is ok I guess for Ada and Far Harbour but everything else was shallow and disappointing

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Anchorage has very little exploration
      >Point Lookout has ridiculous stat bloat and damage buffs for difficulty and also causes Pitt to become unplayable
      >Zeta is extremely short
      >Pitt has a dumb start (power armor beat into submission) and ingot quest is way too long
      >broken steel finishes the game
      you're silly

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>Pitt has a dumb start (power armor beat into submission) and ingot quest is way too long
        Just enter as a slave

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm sure that's what Beth thought, they hate giving players options.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dead money shits on anything in fallout 3, even the main game

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dead Money's ass bro

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Pass a speech check
          >Punished with a bad ending

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he thinks killing dean is a bad ending
            LMAO

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Dean is infinitely entertaining and possesses Pontius Pilate level charisma but he's on the run for shittiest person on the Fallout universe
              Though killing him does cut you off the melancholic all-voices-in-unison being again ending, which is sorta the best one

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dean is a horrible person; him dying is not a bad ending. You also can take several of his checks, not all of them make him mad.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      FO3 only has 2 good dlcs (Pitt and Point Lookout) and FNV only has 1 bad dlc (Dead Money, though the story is still good).

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      as mediocre as OWB and Lonesome Road where
      it wasnt absolutely painful to play those compared to Operation Anchorage, Mothership Zeta and Broken Steel
      the only good DLC where Point Lookout and the Pitt

    • 5 months ago
      Moose

      >Anchorage is super linear and fairly boring, the only fun part is glitching it so you can take everything out of it on a dead body you placed on yourself which you can't even do with the UF3P meaning its only purpose is the completely broken Chinese Stealth Suit that makes every other piece of armor 100% pointless.
      >The Pitt as a DLC is complete ass if only for the ingots and how much you have to run around those awful maps, but the story is good and Ashur did nothing wrong. Also gives you the Perforator which completely makes every other gun completely pointless as it's a suppressed assault rifle you can easily fix.
      Unless you have the WMK mod it's also the only way to get a suppressed anything that isn't Burch's pistol.
      >Broken Steel is fine but mainly for Liberty Prime and only Liberty Prime. The Sandcrawler the Enclave has is kinda fun, but most of the world events are kinda boring.
      It's fun to glitch out of the map to get the beta Tesla Cannon though.
      >Point Lookout is fantastic although you need a mod to fix that completely messed up level scaling.
      >Mothership Zeta is a mess with so much missable nonsense and if you don't kill half the crew or bring in a bunch of gear to reverse pickpocket onto them you can't get like half the armor added into the DLC. Aliens are also absurdly tanky.

      >Dead Money has a fantastic story but really lame gameplay.
      >Honest Hearts is only good for Joshua, otherwise it's a complete wash and just feels like you're touring a boring nature preserve.
      >Old World Blues is decently funny and gives you some great equips and the best house in the game, but also has massive damage sponges who have like 30 PER making it ridiculously annoying to sneak at times.
      >Lonesome Road is just Deathclaws with a side of Deathclaws (Tunnelers) while Ulysses blames you for something you didn't even know you did until that DLC and forces you to either kill him, nuke a bunch of NPCs, or kill ED-E all of which suck ass as options.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      no, frick you.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are they underground all over the world? Or just localized around the southwest? If theyre localized i dont see an issue, but if theyre supposed to be all over the world as a secret underground race then thats pretty moronic

      Point lookout>dead money>the pitt>mothership zeta>the rest of the trash heap

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You think that ruins the lore? How about Fallout 4 not knowing that Jet wasn't a pre-war drug, Ghouls need food and the Enclave invented the Advanced Power Armor a century after the war.

    Pic related, fricking Nuka Cola had a suit of Advanced Power armor before the war.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      everyone here already knows bethesda is shit

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How about Fallout 4 not knowing that Jet wasn't a pre-war drug
      Fricking Fallout 2 didn't know, Angela Bishop's backstory doesn't make sense.
      >Ghouls need food
      Acording to Fallout 2, no.
      >and the Enclave invented the Advanced Power Armor a century after the war.
      Yeah this is a retcon.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nothing that affects the rest of the setting, just continuity errors and shit the Fallout Bible had documented arguments over 20 years ago
      Anon I don't think you understand what the Tunnelers, as Sawyer wants them to be, mean for New Vegas and potentially the rest of the west coast.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh pre war jet
      >methed out shit covered and diseased wastelander: "soooo basically I created it myself out of cow shit! xD I am very trustworthy"
      The only fool here is you

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        no anon, you are the fools

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Look. We know Bethesda sucks with Fallout. We've known since the No More Mutants people whined about Fallout 3 being a thing.

          At this point, no one outside of CRPG nerds even cares.

          Just repeating "PRE-WAR JET" isn't going to make me find Todd IRL to ass rape him for your satisfaction.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Just repeating "PRE-WAR JET" isn't going to make me find Todd IRL to ass rape him for your satisfaction.
            Alright then what can we do to make this happen?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think I understand why jet being a prewar rather than a postwar invention is something of contention: Bethesda retcons something established in one of the original games by Interplay and Black Isle, Fallout's original creators. It's not too dissimilar to the negligence practiced by companies like EA when handling the lore of properties they acquired; it's an act of disrespect. It being contained in Fallout 4, a game that fans of previous titles generally agree is not up to spec, gives more meaning to it as it cannot simply be consigned as being an oversight but the tip of something worse.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              But it just doesn't fricking matter, Fallout 2 itself contradicts it, so why do people care about Jet being pre war so much instead of actual criticisms?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mentioned how it's only the tip of something worse, that being Fallout 4, so ceding ground on the matter of when jet was invented gives people the impression that you accept the other acts of negligence perpetrated against the series. It's true that Fallout 2 contradicts itself with the Bishop story, but that matter was already cleared up in 2002, and Myron was confirmed to be the inventor of jet by one of Fallout's creators. Bethesda's Fallout 76, of all things, reinforces jet's prewar status because you simply can't find it anywhere in the year 2102.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because the conversation with Myron about how Jet was made was very memorable and interesting so not being aware of it indicates that the writers of Fallout 4 probably haven't even played the original two games. That's why it's always brought up, Jet is such a major part of Fallout 2 that you'd have to just not know the game at all to make that mistake.

                And it's not like Fallout is some longrunning epic where it's unreasonable to expect everyone working on it to be familiar with it's history. No one cares about Tactics and the console games so all you need to do is play 1 and 2 and you have the gist of the whole setting, to not even bother doing that comes off as not caring about the series at all.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Because the conversation with Myron about how Jet was made was very memorable and interesting so not being aware of it indicates that the writers of Fallout 4 probably haven't even played the original two games. That's why it's always brought up, Jet is such a major part of Fallout 2 that you'd have to just not know the game at all to make that mistake.
                Bro i literally didn't meet Myron at all in my playthrough, it's not that relevant of a plot point.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Did you also not go to Redding at all? Nor do anything in New Reno? Jet is all over Fallout 2 as the hot new drug, you'd have to be skipping half the content to not catch that.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                No?
                Did almost everything in the game, never even meet Myron, he's not important at all.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Did almost everything in the game
                kek if you didn't meet or hear about myron this isn't even close to true
                just shut the frick up dude

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bro i really don't see why you consider Myron such a big part of the game.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                So you didn't notice how Jet is the hot new drug that has all the miners in Redding hooked? You didn't notice how the crime family that used to run Reno with their alcohol business has been displaced by the crime family that started slinging this hot new drug? Didn't notice that Jet was not in Fallout 1 but now is in Fallout 2? Like, I get you didn't meet Myron, but even then it's still impossible to miss that Jet is a relatively new development in the world of fallout 2.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Where the frick did i imply that?
                I'm saying meeting Myron isn't relevant to the plot at all, you implied i missed a big part of the game by never meeting him.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you implied i missed a big part of the game by never meeting him.
                No, I didn't, I brought up other examples of the game making it extremely obvious that Jet is a new development in the wasteland (New Reno and Redding). Myron is not the point here, his conversation is just an especially effective and memorable explanation of Jet, the point is that Jet being a new thing is not just obscure lore, it's a major part of a fallout 2 that you could not possibly miss if you play the game. New Reno alone is like a quarter of the game at least and Jet's status as the hot new shit that rocketed the Morenos to the top is constantly brought up.

                The whole pre war Jet thing isn't just Bethesda screwing up the lore a bit, it's an indication that the new writers haven't even played the games their game is based on.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, we weren't talking about Jet in general, we were talking about MYRON being important.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I have 3 INT irl
                ok

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                4 actually.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >you implied i missed a big part of the game by never meeting him.
              No, I didn't, I brought up other examples of the game making it extremely obvious that Jet is a new development in the wasteland (New Reno and Redding). Myron is not the point here, his conversation is just an especially effective and memorable explanation of Jet, the point is that Jet being a new thing is not just obscure lore, it's a major part of a fallout 2 that you could not possibly miss if you play the game. New Reno alone is like a quarter of the game at least and Jet's status as the hot new shit that rocketed the Morenos to the top is constantly brought up.

              The whole pre war Jet thing isn't just Bethesda screwing up the lore a bit, it's an indication that the new writers haven't even played the games their game is based on.

              I mentioned how it's only the tip of something worse, that being Fallout 4, so ceding ground on the matter of when jet was invented gives people the impression that you accept the other acts of negligence perpetrated against the series. It's true that Fallout 2 contradicts itself with the Bishop story, but that matter was already cleared up in 2002, and Myron was confirmed to be the inventor of jet by one of Fallout's creators. Bethesda's Fallout 76, of all things, reinforces jet's prewar status because you simply can't find it anywhere in the year 2102.

              Because the conversation with Myron about how Jet was made was very memorable and interesting so not being aware of it indicates that the writers of Fallout 4 probably haven't even played the original two games. That's why it's always brought up, Jet is such a major part of Fallout 2 that you'd have to just not know the game at all to make that mistake.

              And it's not like Fallout is some longrunning epic where it's unreasonable to expect everyone working on it to be familiar with it's history. No one cares about Tactics and the console games so all you need to do is play 1 and 2 and you have the gist of the whole setting, to not even bother doing that comes off as not caring about the series at all.

              So you didn't notice how Jet is the hot new drug that has all the miners in Redding hooked? You didn't notice how the crime family that used to run Reno with their alcohol business has been displaced by the crime family that started slinging this hot new drug? Didn't notice that Jet was not in Fallout 1 but now is in Fallout 2? Like, I get you didn't meet Myron, but even then it's still impossible to miss that Jet is a relatively new development in the world of fallout 2.

              >fo2 is somehow the measuring stick for fallout
              The recipe uses fertilizer in fo4, the implication being that it's still a Brahmin shit derivative.
              If you play a high int character you can call out Myron, saying that you don't believe he actually created jet at all. His dialogue even tells you he didn't create jet. It's brahmin contaminated with a pre-war protein, the effects of which must have been known by whatever pre-war company created it because Myron clearly read about this contamination. I guess this company just didn't care about a new super drug being literally shit out of their cows despite things like buffout and mentats being popular. It's just another example of the incredible writing in fo2.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >His dialogue even tells you he didn’t create jet
                This is an old bullshit rumor. With high INT and science and you push him on the effects of Jet where he admits he how no idea about the science behind it and that he just threw a bunch of random shit together. He then gets skittish about Vault City, not because the drug was from there but because someone there can understand the science behind it and make an antidote for his gay little drug and he would lose his only claim to fame and power. He never says he never made the drug or that he used a pre-existing drug as his base.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly, the idea of a pre war drug just being cow shit fumes is funnier than just Myron creating it.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's canon now.
          Myron killed dozens of drug-slaves to figure out the most cost-effective way to get cow shit into people's lungs.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Get back to sucking Bethesda's smegam caked wiener, Bethesdrone.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I actually don't mind jet being invented in several places at different times, with them adopting the same name eventually as it's use spreads.
        It's simple enough for literal morons to invent. I would even be okay with it being in Fallout 76, but they might've scrapped it in that one due to it slowing time.
        It being prewar is bullshit though.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'll be one step more pedantic than you. It being pre-war is also fine, since Myron directly states it's the result of pre-war cattle feed and there probably isn't that much difference between regular cow guts and brahmin guts.
          The real bullshit is Vault-Tec somehow deciding to send multiple shipments of it off to a vault for testing. Imagine if the CIA had test subjects get shitfaced off spraypaint during MKULTRA.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Imagine if the CIA had test subjects get shitfaced off spraypaint during MKULTRA.
            I'd believe it tbh.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, it's pretty ludicrous that vault tec would supply their vaults with bovine jenk em instead of proper pharmaceuticals.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              The only place Jet is mentioned pre-war is in a terminal entry for Vault 95, the "everyone is a drug addict here, let's see if they frick up and relapse" test vault. If huffing cow shit was as popular as crack before the bombs dropped, maybe it'd make sense.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but the name used doesn't make sense. It's like a scientist describing cannabis as weed. (Putting aside the fact it was likely coined by Byron)

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How about Fallout 4 not knowing that Jet wasn't a pre-war drug

      Get some new fricking material. Nobody cares about Lore in Fallout 4, it's Borderlands with a Fallout skin

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I genuinely have no idea why they didn't just reboot between 2 and 3.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Classic fans would've been angry
        Also there was no need, they're at the other side of the US

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          But they're already angry!

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            They would've been angry earlier

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        What would have there been to reboot? The only things that came over from the west coast were the Brotherhood of Steel and Harold.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I really like 3's Harold
          Tho i feel convincing him to live should've been a speech check, not him just giving up

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Ghouls need food
      They still don't. It's stated outright in there.
      >Pre war jet
      The idea that Myron just claimed an already existing recipe as his own fits with his character perfectly
      >Advanced power armor
      X-01 and APA are related but different things. X-01 was just a prototype on which APA was built on.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        What about that homie in that one NV DLC who needed food

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I misread the original post and thought it meant that 4 retconned them into needing food.
          I forgot this homie existed lmao

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I misread the original post and thought it meant that 4 retconned them into needing food.
          I forgot this homie existed lmao

          To be far, Dean's a posh prick and may have just been making wienertails out of desperate boredom, as the vending machines could apparently spawn anything you wanted, including food

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe that one ghoul was in a coma and ghouls get sustenance from radiation, but still need to eat regular food because they simply feel hungry like humans. He was in a fridge, so maybe when he woke up he ate some of the fridge food. (Remember all food in fallout somehow can whitstand radiation to some extent and dont go bad for 200+years for some reason). Todd should hire me I just fixed his plothole.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Radiation has been used in the past to preserve food.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        So
        >retcon
        >retcon
        >Totally not a retcon
        Okay

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >jet
      It's basically jenkem. The drug is old as world. Bethesda could have gotten away with it if actually they named it jenkem instead of jet. Myron reinvented it while experimenting with fumes and psychedelics, and claiming that it's his own creation.
      >ghouls
      True.
      >advanced power armor
      Yeah, that's really sad.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >le ebic jenkem
        have a nice day before you turn 18

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          it's made in a similar way moron (fermented (cow) shit)

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      What about ghouls? I think Nick says himself that ghouls will try to eat anything, even a hunk of metal like he is. But much more so living meat. Although codsworth does jab on how ghouls dont eat each other, like how zombies in movies don't for some reason.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      With quantum shenigans nuka cola having power didn't bother me vim and abraxo on the other hand.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Technically all of those paint jobs are post-war, so real question is why bunch of logos from pre-war became so poppular to stick on your survival gear?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because it's the shit these people have been seeing and consuming for the past 2 centuries or so, it's iconic.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Literally consoooming even after the corpos died. Now thats comercialising

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            this is so moronic and against the spirit of the setting

            you're telling me a nuclear apocalypse happened and people still cared about brands? that life just carried on? shut up dumbfrick.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't think it's about brands, just people depicting imagery they recognize. When so many things are destroyed you might misinterpret whatever you find.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >people using symbols they don't understand because they think they're cool
                I can just imagine Ulysses' seethe if he ever visited the East Coast.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ulysses travels the country after New Vegas
                >is mad at everything he sees
                Imagine him being in every game complaining about something

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ulysses get progressively more angry as he moves further east

                Lol I'd play that.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ulysses get progressively more angry as he moves further east

                Lol I'd play that.

                >Ulysses was a stand in for Fallout fans this whole time
                Avellone I.....

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean that's better, that's what it's supposed to be about

                I wish Bethesda were able to do it right, the closest they got is "the church of the atom" and even then they weren't able to make it interesting. It's more like a joke for people with 80IQ to laugh at.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                didn't they do something with them in 4's dlc?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, they took over a place and ha ve a Synth as their leader iirc

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              You're moronic Anon, it's literally over for you

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Post the Chinese power armor

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like that it looks like absolute shit, fitting for the chinese.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      you think that ruins the lore? you clearly forgotten the 50foot tall feral ghoul and the hints of electric horrors fo4 introduced, in the fallout table top rpg

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's directly Emil's fault, in interviews he's hyper obsessed with wanted to add magic and Eldritch Horror bullshit to Fallout

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >50foot tall feral ghoul
        Cool, what about Frank?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wasn't he a Supermutant?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, but same logic. Also which game are you talking about? 76? Haven't play the one.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      When will you professional crybabies shut up about Jet. Nobody cares. Stop pretending you cut yourself in rage because you see Jet on the east coast in a cash register. Especially when Fallout 2 is making pop culture references all over the place. Goddamn just nonstop whining.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >frick you we don't care just buy our product

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, i get it
        Retro-futurism is the most nonsensical of aesthetics.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      theres jet in all kinds of old offices and safes and shit in nv

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ummmm AAACTUALLYY they can tear deathclaws apart in 10 seconds and they can overpower all humanity and they are also half-demon half-fallen-angel half-dragon and half-vampire

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    the only information we have on these creatures is from an insane guy, he's not credible.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The devs want us to believe him tho

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They weren't too tough, the wasteland will survive.

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Deathclaws, cazadors, and organized groups of humans would push their shit in tbh

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're easy to deal with. It depends on if Mojave wastelanders are smart enough.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >can only kill a gimped deathclaw

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Lone Wanderer took a lethal dose of radiation, slept it off for a few weeks then was completely fine
    Probably my least favorite part of Broken Steel

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >send mindless robot into radiation death chamber
      >people celebrate the robot as a hero

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wouldn't be so bad if they didn't call you a coward too.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tbf the project was halted for 20 years due to your birth
          Your entire life is forever linked to that place in people's eyes

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Li would be a petty b***h and tell everyone about that.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >almost gets killed by the Enclave
              >loses her friend because of the enclave
              >knows the shit the Enclave was gonna do to the Wasteland
              >joins Enclave 2 anyway
              I fricking hate Li so much.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                B-but the Brotherhood became meanieheads instead of do-gooder Power Rangers when Maxson took over, so the Institute is perfectly fine, nevermind the super mutants, synth replacements, and town demolitions for scrap.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                total outcast victory brotherhood in 4 sucks. those guys are dicks.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                The BoS have always been buttholes with FO3 being the exception, excluding the Outcasts.
                Basically Enclave lite.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and FO3 brotherhood was an improvement, with the Outcasts still being buttholes. Frick those guys.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >dad is an imbecile
      >spends decades of his life researching a way to purify water of radioactivity
      >something a mr. handy can already do (just on a smaller scale)
      >in fact forget that, this is something you can do with enough sand and gravel
      >dad abandons this research before it can be useful to anyone
      >there's now just a big stupid machine under a memorial that is just taking up space
      >dad hides in a vault because ???
      >dad then leaves the vault and leaves his only offspring to die (you)
      >this also gets countless innocent people killed in a pointless rebellion
      >dad gets himself trapped in a piss pod rather than just getting the guy he needs to talk to out of his
      >dad reconnects with child (you)
      >dad decides now is the time to continue work on the water purifier nobody should need
      >dad enlists the aid of scientists researching sustainable food in the wasteland (something of actual benefit to it)
      >dad briefly scolds you for killing a lot of people with a nuke if you did that
      >dad is at last trapped in the purifier because some rival military appears to seize control of it so that it may be used for the exact reason your dad and his friends intended to use it
      >dad activates the ???
      >dad floods the purifier main chamber thing with radiation, killing everyone inside
      >except for the bad guys who just had some kind of magical drug that makes them not die to high exposure to radiation, you may not have ever seen it before, it is called rad-x
      >dad posthumously gets a lot of those food researching scientists killed
      >dad gets pretty much everyone killed because he gaslighted the world into thinking they need this purifier to purify water that, based on game geography, just flows out into the ocean once it's purified
      >dad is an imbecile
      >you are also an imbecile as you get suckered into gassing yourself with radiation
      >in the post-ending DLC it's revealed the water purifier makes no difference to anything in the wasteland

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        why did no one else try to fix the purifier in 18 years

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          lead scientists died or stopped caring so rest of science team just gave up. super mutants inhabit the purifier/memorial so no one bothered to clear it out,

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          After Catherine died and James left, it was basically a lost cause.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          It couldn't have been too important then if nobody gave a frick about it.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        a mr. handy can already do (just on a smaller scale)
        Yeah, but that "smaller scale" part is what counts, Mr Hanys can do 5 bottles a week, the purifier works on gallons
        >>dad hides in a vault because ???
        Because (You) were born and he doesn't want to you live in the wasteland, even if by leaving he's fricking over everyone else.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Handys*

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          i think the mr handy gets that water from condensation on his metal. I have no idea where i got this from but i'm sure i heard it in fallout 3

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Emil didn't think a single part of this through for even five seconds but he never does because it's all about muh emotions & virtue driving the story, well that & doing "remember this from the previous games?" to keep you from thinking about anything.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Every time someone throws out one of these takedowns they complain about there being no reason for people to fight over the purifier. Why do people have trouble understanding this? Are they Enclave apologists or do they just not know what a strategic resource is?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Enclave wouldn't need the purifier.
          The enclave could have nuked the pentagon at any point during the plot line.
          Autumn is hostile against James and the player for no reason.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the enclave in 3 make no sense because they are aggressive for no reason
            >also they could've just used an act of extreme aggression for no reason
            pick one argument and actually stick with it.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The Enclave was already making attempts to coerce and dominate wastelanders before they started showing up in random events. There's terminals all over the spawned camps that spell out their goal is to round up people, test them to see if they're sufficiently mutated, and exterminate them if they are. Having an unlimited supply of water is a bargaining chip that would help them convince and control more people.

            The orbital cannon is a plot hole introduced by the expansion to justify why there's any urgency to that questline, and I agree it's shitty. Following the facts presented by just the main game, the only way the Enclave could attack the Pentagon is through a frontal assault, which they don't have the manpower for.

            Autumn wants your dad to run the purifier, but your dad knows the Enclave are going to do Evil shit if they have the purifier. When dad kills himself instead of running the purifier and the rest of the team leads hide away in the Pentagon, you're the next-most likely to know how to run it so he interrogates you for the codes to run it.

            Where's the problem here?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I agree it's shitty
              >Where's the problem here?
              we are approaching a contrarian singularity

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          The Purifier is designed to purify groundwater, which means it's basically impossible to keep as a strategic resource as you basically can't hold all groundwater randsom.jvsaar

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >except for the bad guys who just had some kind of magical drug that makes them not die to high exposure to radiation, you may not have ever seen it before, it is called rad-x

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >in the post-ending DLC it's revealed the water purifier makes no difference to anything in the wasteland
        This isn’t true at all.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          it isnt?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >spend decades researching and building water purifier
        >random vault dweller twenty some years later can build an infinite number of them with duct tape and buckets

        Lol james ain't shit.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          He wanted to purify the biggest water source in DC not just some bucketfull of water for small settlement.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I plopped 8 of those in the ocean james still ain't shit.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Dump a metric shitload of purifiers in the river next to Sanctuary.
              >More purified water than anyone knows what to do with.
              Suck it, James.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Dump a metric shitload of purifiers in the river next to Sanctuary.
              >More purified water than anyone knows what to do with.
              Suck it, James.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >water merchants currency gets phased out by NCR currency
                >NCR Currency loses all worth later on and everyone goes back to caps
                Water Merchants won.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >in the post-ending DLC it's revealed the water purifier makes no difference to anything in the wasteland
        Is that the explanation for why the water is still completely fricked in F4?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, that because you're in Boston, not D.C
          Pretty sure some characters mention that D.C has non irradiated water.

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being dragged down into their burrows and having your butthole rearranged nonstop while you're forced to incubate their broods. If I get a 6 every anon in the thread goes into the rape tunnels. If I get a 45 every anon is regressed in age till they're a shota before being taken to the rape tunnels.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      And you get neither, pedo homosexual.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds like daddy didn't come to your room at night to teach you to open that eager mouth only when asked. Don't worry anon, we'll fix your gay behaviour.

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Enclave Remnants are a real faction and held true to the Enclave's ideals and principles.

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >morons trying to pin these homosexuals on Sawyer because they're ignorant dipshits using the only two names they've heard of to pretend they can participate in this discussion
    Sawyer made Honest Hearts, Avellone made DM, OWB and LR

    Avellone is the one who has gone on record saying he wants to reset the setting with nukes.
    https://www.gamebanshee.com/interviews/105885-fallout-new-vegas-and-dlc-post-mortem-interview-part-two.html

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The NCR may be a corrupt shithole but it would make me sad to see everything Tandi spent her whole life building fall apart.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tbf that's cited in-universe as one of the reasons why the NCR declined, that it became too reliant on Tendi and when she finally died, opportunists rose up and used or removed what she had built to prop up the upper class and become more expansionist.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Tendi
          Frick, i laughed

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          But the NCR isn't "declining", it's rapidly expanding

          How am I supposed to believe a nation state with no serious enemies collapsed? Regimes might come and go but they have the flag, the armies, the manufacturing. You're telling me these towns that all speak the same language and rely on each other for trade turned on each other? It's just not fricking plausible

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >How am I supposed to believe a nation state with no serious enemies collapsed?
            The Brotherhood of Steel? The war with them was still ongoing in other parts of the west coast in NV.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              And considering one of the Fallout 4 characters is from the NCR, it ain't hard to believe East and West coast BoS linked up again at some point.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Are we to believe that a standing army would loose to a bunch of whacky tin can fellas? Wasnt this explored in NV that NCR would win by sheer numbers like in Helios-1?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'd say that's more because everyone in New Vegas lore is hilariously incompetent before you come in.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Except for NCR that somehow was dunking on everyone, but when Courier dropped, they started to suck and rely on MC all of a sudden

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's because the NCR general got mad that the NCR rangers were the reason why they dunked on the Legion in the first big fight, so he sidelined them and moved most of his forces on the dam for the second battle

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              They were getting BTFO by the time of new vegas

              But if the promo material on this "show" is anything to go by, the brotherhood started taking off their helmets and won the war by sheer diversity because The Force Is Female™

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                We saw one(uno(Ichi)) BoS member without a helmet and they weren't female nor wearing power armor

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Bro I don't get it bro your color on the map is getting bigger
            >What the frick is a supply line bro the color is getting bigger
            >What do you mean core territory resources being redistributed to the frontier means the entire country is in trouble if the expansion fails bro the color is more than before
            I fricking hate you.

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Note: This terminal is found at the outpost on the road south of Vault 92.

    Orders (CO eyes only)

    Mission Directive: Establish and enforce Enclave presence among general populace, disposal of genetic non-compliance offenders.

    I. Establish constituency enforcement point at coordinates 39.138 x -77.070. Monitor civilian movement in area, and debrief superior regarding any events of notable significance or regularity.

    II. Distribute purified water rations to civilians willing to submit to genetic compliance screening. Participation in screening is compulsory for all civilians, and use of force is authorized in enforcement.

    III. Genetic non-compliance offenders should be detained at checkpoint.

    IV. To conserve consumption of Enclave resources, detainees should be disposed of by flame only when withholding facility becomes overcrowded, or detainees become unmanageable, whichever comes first.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      But what counts as an 'unacceptable' level of mutation to this Enclave? In FO2 the answer was 'none', anybody exposed to the modified FEV was considered inhuman, so they planned to genocide the entire planet outside of Enclave bases uses a FEV modified into a kill virus. What's the point of this branch of the Enclave testing random Wastelanders genetically? They should know already that they all have minor FEV taint, so if they have the old standard they shouldn't be bothering with the dog and pony show and should just be doing a bio-weapon attack. If their standards have changed, why, and to what, bringing me back to my first question.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The game explicitly spells out there is a factional difference between President Eden's classic Enclave policy of indiscriminate genocide through the Modified FEV and Colonel Autumn's slightly more diplomatic policy of total control and nonspecific-but-more-discriminate genocide through screening out the few wastelanders they feel can be salvaged. President Eden has to sneak the Modified FEV into your hands because killing everything in the wasteland isn't Autumn's plan.

        They wouldn't have robots blasting propaganda asking wastelanders to collaborate if they were going with the Oil Rig Enclave's strategy of gunning down everyone they come across, and they wouldn't need a wasteland-sized water purifier if they weren't planning on using it as a tool to control the wasteland.

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    just ignore them? NV is only half canon anyway. bethesda could say "yeah frick that" to any of it at any time.

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone tried the Point Lookout remake in FO4? It has 150+ bugs but the quality looks good. Is it really that buggy or just false reports?
    Also, one thing I like about Bethesda is their Lovecraft references. Point Lookout to the Dunwich horror, Dragonborn to Call of Cthulhu and Far Harbor to Innsmouth.

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can't wait to see how Emil fricks up Fallout 5 even more. I'd like to think that all the Starfield assreaming will maybe inspire some iota of quality control but I'm not holding my breath.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think there will be any Fallout game made until like 2030 or something.

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    They are there so players might reconsider the independent vegas ending. (Lore vise)

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Amazon show leaks imply the NCR collapsed 16 years after the events of New Vegas

    Thoughts?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good. NCR was practically a commie state and Tandi was a kim yong ill type dictator.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Amazons failed abortion of a show based around Bethesda fanfiction
      Its like watching your best friends rotten corpse being raped.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's really fricking moronic.
      They were self sufficient and had a large standing army. Even total defeat in the Mojave wouldn't have meant collapse.

      Honestly every bit of material I've seen or heard about this show sounds terrible.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's over.
      Fallout has fallen.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >its the Ceasers leagion reigns supreme, deleting NCR from colorado river to the sea ending
      Ummmm....BASED?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        more like
        >Caesar's Legion was utterly annihilated because they're stupid white BIGOTS!!
        >Then muh yas queen NCR also collapsed a few years later.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >He doesn't know
          Legion victory will be made canon as will the Courier being groomed by Caesar to be his heir. But the caveat will be the Courier is f*male

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        There have been no references to Caesar
        But House's casting has already been confirmed

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >TODD (HOUSE) HOWARD ACTUALLY ALWAYS WINS
          EPIC

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          René Auberjonois deepfake?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Rafi Silver, ome israeli/middle eastern looking dude from New York that's been working in the industry for 10 years but nobody knows who he is.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Caesar's Legion has to contend with the reformed forces of former NCR Rangers, the regulars and the mechanized corp under the newly crowned Water """Merchants""" of the Hub Republic. Still have very strong ties to the Followers and Gun Runners due to their prior histories in the region
        >many of the other cities like Madoc, Arroyo, Den and San Fran lost massive swathes of their population as the food and water ran dry in the core regions from industrialization and overfarming
        >the Water Merchants still held onto one of the last uncorrupted aquifers prior to the collapse

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Doing a hard reset
      These writers are such fricking hacks
      Why go to California at all if you're going to push the fricking RESET BUTTON

      WHAT THE FRICK ARE YOU DOING?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's because they're californian themselves anon
        Just like how Bethesda chose the East Coast because it's where they come from.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bethesda wants to make a Fallout game in the west coast but they refuse to have anything related to Obsidian in it is my guess, Todd already said the show is canon.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't see it tbh, they reference New Vegas a lot.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      If house is in, and NCR isnt in mojave, maybe its set before NCR moved to Vegas? Any leaks when its set in?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        2296, 9 years after 4 and a decade and a half after New Vegas.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      God, why the frick did Todd let them touch the west coast? Even with all their issues, Bethesda usually had enough reverence for the classics not to frick with them.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's pretty obvious they're doing it so the show can actually look post-apocalyptic, which would contradict the state California is currently supposed to be in.

        As for why they couldn't set it in the East Coast? Bethesda is probably reserving that for their own games.
        As for why the show couldn't have been set before or inbetween some of the games? Might also be Bethesda's doing, Obsidian was apparently given a lot of free reign over the creative decisions of NV but one idea that was vetoed was the game being set inbetween Fallout 2 and 3.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Then why not set it pre Fallout 1/ in between F1 and F2

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >anon can't read

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        i'm guessing they did it not for the story but for fliming. Filming the desert in bumfrick nowhere nevada is much easier than a nuked Washington DC

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      probably the based take that Bethesda has done on nu-fallout.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The NCR collapsing in on itself is believable but it should have been done in a game not a TV show and I fricking know the reason given in show is going to be moronic and won't make any sense. Nor will they do anything cool with it or use it to introduce new factions that were born out of the collapse of the NCR but rather just use it to jerk off the Brotherhood some more and bring back "muh lawless wasteland"

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Amazon tried to tell me there were black dwarves, gay hobbits, Sauron was a pajeet and Galadriel could defeat everything with one finger. If Bethesda prior to this adaptation has taught us anything its that a corporation has zero hold or validity on the canon of a story.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      a lot of the time people go "this spinoff SHITS ALL OVER THE LORE" and I usually feel that it's silly because it's a spinoff who cares

      Allowing arguably the single most important faction in one of the most beloved RPG series of all time to collapse offscreen in your netflix adaptation in exchange for yet more hamhanded BoS wank is such a genuine spit in the face if it's true.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Guess that means Caesar or House/Yes man pushed them out of Vegas canonically
      I mean I dont know how this is a massive surprise seeing as the NCR in vegas was a dead man walking without the couriers intervention.
      >searchlight virus bombed
      >nipton torched
      >supply route to vegas cut off and legion raiding all caravans
      >ranger station charlie slaughtered after you go there at the start of the game, come back and everyone is dead and the place is booby trapped and legion assassins are about the place
      >cottonwood cove set up and largely uncontested
      >frumentarii fricking everywhere leading to the bombing of the monorail and the assassination of the president
      >disgruntled Rangers like Hanlon want the NCR to lose and are sabotaging operations

      And probably more I missed, the NCR in New Vegas is like the Empire in the Elder Scrolls. You can tell its on its last legs and about to keel over. I suppose losing the hoover dam was the catalyst for it all.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget the NCR also got nooked because the Courier wasn't alive to stop Ulysses

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          And the Monorail will get blown up since once again the Courier wasn't alive to bail out the NCR, this video does a pretty good job showing how fricked the NCR are in the Mojave without the Courier saving their asses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7lBYg-9MGU

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        That all marks a strategic failure for the NCR forces in the Mojave, but I don't see how that translates to the entire rest of the republic collapsing. The biggest things that would impact the situation back home would be Kimball's death, the possible death of the head of the Crimson Caravan, and the NCR military being cut down to maybe half its forces (assuming a worst-case scenario where the Legion wins, and not a House/Independent scenario where the bulk of the force is just sent packing).

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is assuming that it was specifically the events of New Vegas that led to the NCR collapsing and not some other seperate event that happened some time later.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Somehow the Chinese returned and decided to nuke the west coast again
            Bravo Amazon

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      they lasted a lot more than expected

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      The collapse could be genuinely interesting but they had to just offscreen that shit

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      while NV canon can be revoked or changed at any time I don't know why you'd consider the show canon at all until it's explicitly called on in future games.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because Todd called it canon

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          for now. there's nothing less solidly canon than tv spin-offs in vidya. if it's received badly (it will be) it will end up forgotten.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            remember to bully anyone going "idk guys i liked it. i thought it was pretty good. the set design was great" like a dweeb-y consumer

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm still reeling from that fricking Halo show.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >devolves into feudal city states based around the original settlements prior to their annexation by the NCR

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >INDEPENDENT IS CANON
      >INDEPENDENT IS CANON
      >INDEPENDENT IS CANON
      >INDEPENDENT IS CANON
      OHNONONONONO AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        it doesnt imply anything, you could even imply an NCR ending but the courier's intervention didnt fix every issue

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Far more likely that everything is fricked because I doubt they'll have the balls to do a legion ending in current year.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I doubt they'll have the balls to do a legion ending in current year.
          You'd think they would. Bunch of big bad slavers that le heckin disrespect women and people of color would be a perfect scapegoat villain for some modern show. They could even say the courier helped them and was the whitest most evil man ever. Plus they could cap it off by having Ulysses as the ultimate 'frick ypipo' character that's super smart and charming and strong and doesn't have a completely asinine view on the world at all. It'd be funny if they made the show this on the nose, but we all know the villain is going to be some boring crap like a raider, or some kooky shit like 'rogue nuka cola bots'.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They could even say the courier helped them and was the whitest most evil man ever
            Woman* for extra irony.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        House is in the series tho
        Might be a Flashback, might be a cameo, we don't know

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Odo is dead, so unless they're using AI, it's a flashback

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            The got a new guy to do it tho

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            He's got a new VA credited. Some Indian guy. He's probably going to be mediocre (meaning awful, considering the shoes he's trying to fill), but Amazon has enough money that maybe they found someone passable.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not with House there it isn't.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Exhales

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      They could've set in Hawaii or Alaska if they wanted to leave all the lore untouched.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >implying consistency is even a consideration

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Source? None of the leaks imply this at all. There is no way in hell Bethesda would kill the NCR like that. The backlash would be insane. Plus we’ve already seen NCR stuff from behind the scenes leaks like their flag in vault 33

  23. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn’t the Jet retcon only a thing because they forgot to not put Jet in pre war safes by accident?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Between Bethesda's lack of documentation and general apathy for the IP, pretty much.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Iirc they made some prewar advertisements for jet and some prewar terminal references. Certainly just sloppiness that Hines was at the time paid to gloss over to keep up product enthusiasm

  24. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Tunneler
    Is he israeli?

  25. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    How did "mutated humans from radiation" ruin the lore?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are they mutated from humans tho? maybe they are like Deathclaws?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://web.archive.org/web/20220819194300/https://twitter.com/ChrisAvellone/status/1560413081393438720

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because it makes everything ever done in any of the games from the beginning completely pointless due to the implications that tunnelers will overrun the west coast. It's a lame asspull from random enemies in a dlc as being a true ultimate existential threat. Fallout isnt warhammer where everything is ultimately fruitless in the end.

  26. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Behold the greatest threat to the Mojave and the rest of the world.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      the ASMR mommy was hot

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah

  27. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I remember reading an anecdote from sawyer describing Avellone just coming up to his desk one day wide-eyed, describing his whole idea of the tunnelers and asking if he could do it, and Sawyer just goes "...alright"

  28. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >TV show (which is canon) turned House into a poojeet
    Housegays eternally BTFO

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      BLOODY BASTERD BICH DO NOT REDEEM THE PLATINUM CHIP

  29. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It's said war - war never changes. Men do, through the roads they walk
    K I N O
    I
    N
    O

  30. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    lusty argonian maid?

  31. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  32. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Okay

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      playing hard mode + jsawyer mod really gives you the true experience of fighting a deathclaw especially if it gets the jump on you

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >really gives you the true experience of fighting a deathclaw especially if it gets the jump on you

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sauce now

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Deathclaw from the fallout series

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      What has the more dangerous creatures? East or West coast?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        East Coast: Death Claw, Yao Guai, Mirelurks, Fog Callers, Gulpers, Gatorclaws, Wendigo, Ravagers, Stingwings

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wanamingo clear them all easily

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Aren't Wanamingos extinct?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              no, they just found another mine on the east coast where they've made a nest

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wanamingos never really existed they just hallucinations brought about mix of heat stroke and metallic air

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        The chupacabras, because they learned how to use automatic weapons.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is very correct
      Within their own environment the tunnelers couldn't stop the invasive deathclaws of settings up a giant nest and couldn't exterminate the marked men either, who don't reproduce
      The Mojave is infinitely more dangerous than the divide

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget the lottery guy

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      lel

  33. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's on Gankers wishlist for Fallout 5? For me it's
    >Joinable Enclave
    >Deathclaw companion
    >Rideable motorcycle/snow mobile
    >Snowy setting

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >wishlist for Fallout 5
      lol
      lmao

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Let a homie have some hope

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          If at this point you have hope then I will stop you

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            My main source of hope is by then Todd and Emil will have retired

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Then you are a fool.
              Todd and Emil are least byproducts of lack of talent and creativity dulled with time
              What comes after them is much worse, deliberate mishandling, IP pirates, an already subverted new generation coming to infect everything
              The pit which the franchise currently in finds itself in will only get deeper

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe when TES6 is a trainwreck.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ok and?
              Which new, talented and brave dev will take charge?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Idk, some homie from here?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, yes, that's who I want to make my Fallout
                >some homie from here

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hey, you asked.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                And now I regret it deeply.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Any blue-haired person of your choice.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      So... Alaska?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was thinking more Chicago during winter but a Fallout game in Alaska could be cool as well

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >having hope for any bethesda games after 76 and Starfield
      Even if Skyrim was medicore shit, but it was at least playable for one playthrough.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Joinable Enclave
      already been done

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would rather it was never made at all.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it never happens
      >bethesda goes bankrupt and all their IPs sold to shitty phone game companies
      >Morrowind modding community releases another Tamriel rebuilt expansion

  34. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I like the tunnelers purely because they exist to make autists seethe

  35. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    why do people want the brotherhood of steel to be front and center in every fricking piece of fallout media?
    they're the most overrated faction in the fricking franchise. even interplay was forcing them prior to bethesda buying the ip.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because they're iconic, PA is one of the most widely recognizable things in the franchise and has been so since the first game.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        other factions are capable of wearing PA. PA is just armor. NCR would probably start figuring it out if you gave them a few more decades

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          NCR has power armor.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            *NCR has a low number of barley working power armor that they stole and don't know how to repair
            FTFY

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            But without the 'power' part

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            NCR heavy suits aren't powered. The servos are torn out and they're stripped down enough that the guy inside can actually move around without killing himself. It's got the same protective capacity as Elite Ranger gear, IIRC (which I think the NCR also cant produce).

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The servos are torn out and they're stripped down enough that the guy inside can actually move around without killing himself
              How tf would that work with current PA? They aren't 'just' armors now

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I assume you take the motors and power supply off the frame and Black person-rig some solution on the joints that leaves them free-swinging but still has a lock-out position for the waist and knees. But the truth is that you either can't, or you strip the plates down to bare minimum and bolt them to a crash suit like the one Bethesda came up with in FO3.

                But the real answer is "it doesnt, lol" because the universal frame idea was dumb to start with even if turning the armor into pseudo-vehicles was the right call.

                space marines are actually kinda cool because they have juvenile power scaling attached to them and all the weird esoteric mysticism that the imperium carries with it

                BoS are either a bunch of nerds that want to hoard all the technology to keep mankind from blowing itself up again, which is kind of lame and one-note, or they're literal fantasy knights, and every time they've been literal fantasy knights they've been even worse

                New Vegas' is just a corrupt neoliberal post-apocalyptic state but it's handled so much more compellingly than literally any iteration of the brotherhood. the only reason to hold them as more important over the NCR's longevity as a state and very direct tie to fallout's overarching theme of history repeating itself is because of marketing.

                like frick nuke the NCR if you want to but make it a big fricking deal. we've been watching these guys grow from fallout 1, they absolutely don't deserve to be a little footnote in the latest adventure of heroic knights civilizing the wastes

                I'm just explaining why the BoS make for good marketing material. Normies don't give a frick about actual unit culture, just what looks cool, and the BoS look cool and make big explosions. Simple as.

                The BoS writing in NV suffers notably from the writers getting their panties in a wad over Bethesda's handling of them just as much as the BoS in FO3 suffered from becoming fantasy knights in a Bethesda RPG. The easy way to turn the BoS into a compelling faction while keeping with the OG mission statement is just developing them into Comstar. You keep the knightly angle, you keep bad tech out of people's hands, you get good PR to explain why they pop up everywhere. EZPZ. The Codex was unironically a good addition and the Mojave Chapter would have been more compelling if Obsidian had built upon it instead of using Veronica's quest to seethe about their milquetoast conservative parents.

                Nuking the NCR would have been moronic in any case (and was moronic in Lonesome Road). They're teetering on the edge of imploding on themselves in NV. You can just keep building on that storyline. The NCR just don't make great posterboys because they're a kinda milquetoast faction (excepting the Elite Ranger armor which is obviously kino).

                Amazon show leaks imply the NCR collapsed 16 years after the events of New Vegas

                Thoughts?

                They were facing crippling resource shortages in NV so I guess that's workable. I don't count on Bethesda or Amazon to actually make it work though.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You keep the knightly angle, you keep bad tech out of people's hands, you get good PR to explain why they pop up everywhere
                Ain't that just Arthur's BoS?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >just what looks cool, and the BoS look cool and make big explosions
                This isn't true, the BoS doesn't look cool, power armor looks cool. You easily come up with a reason for some other faction to use power armor unconnected to the brotherhood.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Half the problem with Fallout 4 was Bethesda shitting PA all over the map and making it too common. Although you aren't wrong that another faction with a PA stockpile would make sense to include as long as they aren't something dumb and irrelevant like the Atom Cats.

                BoS in NV didn't feel spitefully written to me at all, they felt interesting. BoS already felt like they were falling out of relevance in FO2, having them hiding in a little bunker shitting themselves unable to adspt to the changing times was a nice little storyline.

                Veronica and her quest are 100% written with spite. They had to uno reverse card Lyons' Codex quotes to get the storyline they wanted out of it and slaughter a bunch of disposable Followers just so you know how mean and backwards the Mojave chapter is.

                The content outside of Veronica's quest is fine and feels like it was written by a different team. And a lot of shit gets recontexualized in Dead Money to make more sense and make Veronica look even more disconnected with what's actually happening in the Chapter.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >make Veronica look even more disconnected with what's actually happening in the Chapter
                I always got them impression. Everything about her questline seemed so disconnected from the rest of the Brotherhood stuff.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have to believe the BoS quests and Veronica's companion quest were put together by different teams with no communication. Her ending slide even talks about how the BoS will never adopt new technology ever and that seems so out of left field I just straight up ignored it. Like yeah, R&D isn't their main thing but they aren't fricking luddites, they're main thing is taking advantage of advanced tech.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                BoS in NV didn't feel spitefully written to me at all, they felt interesting. BoS already felt like they were falling out of relevance in FO2, having them hiding in a little bunker shitting themselves unable to adspt to the changing times was a nice little storyline.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The BoS writing in NV suffers notably from the writers getting their panties in a wad over Bethesda's handling of them
                I disagree, they're the same isolationists, idiomatic asses they always were, they're just being left behind

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they always were
                That's the thing though. Their ending in Fallout 1 has them breaking out of that shell. They haven't been strict isolationists since the end of the first game. The Mojave chapter is a weird regression.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Their ending in Fallout 1 has them breaking out of that shell.
                Didn't 2 reverse that?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                In 2 their problem was because they became moral busybodies seizing tech from people and only distributing it to people who "deserve" it. The only Brotherhood guy left spells it out as one of the main reasons why the Enclave kicked their ass hard enough to send the whole Brotherhood into hiding.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                They've never engaged the enclave in 2. 2 brotherhood has basically become some secret society or something, the interplay fallout 3 lore invented ncr-brotherhood conflict

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't notice them in Tactics

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      muh heckin cool power armor dude

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Power armor is dope and so are hermetic super knights with laser guns and heavy weapons. Same reason 40k leans so hard on the Space Marines.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        space marines are actually kinda cool because they have juvenile power scaling attached to them and all the weird esoteric mysticism that the imperium carries with it

        BoS are either a bunch of nerds that want to hoard all the technology to keep mankind from blowing itself up again, which is kind of lame and one-note, or they're literal fantasy knights, and every time they've been literal fantasy knights they've been even worse

        New Vegas' is just a corrupt neoliberal post-apocalyptic state but it's handled so much more compellingly than literally any iteration of the brotherhood. the only reason to hold them as more important over the NCR's longevity as a state and very direct tie to fallout's overarching theme of history repeating itself is because of marketing.

        like frick nuke the NCR if you want to but make it a big fricking deal. we've been watching these guys grow from fallout 1, they absolutely don't deserve to be a little footnote in the latest adventure of heroic knights civilizing the wastes

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't know, maybe just because "Power Armor rules nyaguh!", and honestly the idea of a pseudocult dedicated to protecting technology from falling into the wrong hands in a post apocalyptic world is genuinely interesting on top of the medieval knight vibe they have going on, but they just got flanderized into being the Imperium of Man lite

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Because Fallout fans are moronic.
      Energy Weapons are always boring.
      Power Armor is always boring.
      Small Guns and Melee are always the best.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based
        And Unarmed is cool when they give it special attacks

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Energy Weapons are always boring
        This is because nobody will do anything interesting with them, not because it's impossible. Energy weapons are always treated like guns except the projectile is more glowy.
        >laser weapons that drastically reduce enemy perception while actively firing
        >plasma weapons that erode enemy DT and do damage over time, but destroys enemy loot if overused
        >you can overcharge energy weapons but you will start taking on rads
        >energy tracers that let you shoot a bug at an enemy and all your energy shots zone in on that guy, even behind cover
        >alien energy weapons that dont do damage but cause the enemy to go crazy, morph into an abomination, etc.
        >weapons that can form a toggled energy barrier at the cost of ammo
        >energy weapons that are super powerful and automatic but require power armor to use

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Laser RCW can chew through armor in real time
          >optimized does it faster while max and overcharged electron cells have the ability to cripple limbs

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        big weapons can be pretty frickin rad anon
        https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4015

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      So they can slap a suit of armor on the box and depict a "character" without having to actually design somebody.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Same reason The Rebel vs. Empire conflict got rehashed in the EU 24/7 across several companies. Same reason Mario, Sonic and Link fight Bowser, Eggman and Ganon with only minor or superficial variations in plot. Same reason Halos 1-6 all deal with fighting some variant of Covenant.

      People like complacency, safe, predictable things that dont challenge them or force them out of their comfort zone. Even nu Ganker is like this. Change or deviations to anything minor or major cause the board to sperg out for months.

  36. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >BUT THEY CAN OVERPOWER DEATHCLAWS
    >it takes a scripted encounter for this to actually happen
    >in reality even like 5 of them can not handle a single Deathclaw
    It's even more moronic how weak they are stated when you realise this is the final fricking DLC. They should be a threat but they aren't

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >in reality

  37. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm more concerned of the giant fricking wasps that casually maul Deathclaw, outpace you, and are impossible to sneak by

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >
      just shoot their wings off and shit yourself as they angrily crawl towards you fast as frick like an actual insect would

  38. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Prydwen is in
    LAAAAAAAMEEEE

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's apparently not the prydwen, but a second one

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's the Prydwen's sister ship. I forget what they were naming it.

      >You keep the knightly angle, you keep bad tech out of people's hands, you get good PR to explain why they pop up everywhere
      Ain't that just Arthur's BoS?

      Sort of. The situation in the Capital Wasteland is sorta vague; we don't really know what the domestic situation is but we do know that the BoS is still handing out water and in control of the purification plant. This in line with what I was proposing but it's not the whole thing. The issue (imo) with the FO4 BoS is that they're too modern paramilitary and have kinda dropped the actual knightly aesthetic. You can kinda excuse that since the Commonwealth detachment is purely a military op but there really should be more to the Brotherhood's style than power armor and tactical pouches.
      >bright red Scribe robes
      >banners and decorations and symbols coating everything
      >characters, particularly Scribes and technical staff, that have a more formal mode of speaking instead of sounding like every other casual, snarky schmuck in the Wasteland
      What's always annoying is that Fallout 1 had a lot of this stuff already. Fallout 3 tried to build on it and fumbled awkwardly because of bad writing quality, New Vegas got mad about the fumbling and also got wrapped up in Avellone's 'no progress for anyone' Ax grinding, and FO4's has the idea but bad execution again.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Prydwen is in
        LAAAAAAAMEEEE

        It's apparently not the prydwen, but a second one

        >enclave were scary because they had attack helicopters and could drop 5 guys in the best power armor with plasma guns on you in under a minute
        >brotherhood of steel have war zeppelins because... uhh...

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          They had zeppelins when they were an expeditionary force in Fallout Tactics.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Prydwen was repurposed from Enclave tech no?
          Also the East Coast is in general stronger than the West, an attack helicopter with 5 guys and plasma guns just ain't shit, just throw 19 year olds at them and they die.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          They took all the manufacturing equipment from the Enclave after Fallout 3 or something, which is also why they have Vertibirds in 4. The BoS being able to figure out mass manufacturing, especially the fairly inclusive East Coast chapter, is really not that unbelievable.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The BoS being able to figure out mass manufacturing, especially the fairly inclusive East Coast chapter, is really not that unbelievable.
            Yes it is. This doesn't require some galactic IQ to realize it's nonsense. Factories are not self-sustaining entities, they require things like fuel and materials. And even if this setting can feasibly provide fuel in the form of eternal canisters of magic (which only seem to power suits of armor or computers, but fine) then where are they getting the metal? Are the dealing with the raiders from the Pitt? Who is doing the physical manufacturing? Who is running quality control? Etc.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              tbh Maxson genociding the Pitt AGAIN and taking over the steel mill from Asher would be pretty kickass.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Are the dealing with the raiders from the Pitt?
              Maybe, by that point The Pitt isn't an absolute shithole
              >Who is doing the physical manufacturing? Who is running quality control? Etc.
              Nobody actually cares about this, it's a "what's Aragorn's tax policy" tier question.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Maybe, by that point
                Didn't meant to put a coma there

  39. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even if avellone wasn't utterly removed from the Fallout franchise bethesda would have never made a big thing out of tunnelers so who gives a frick?

  40. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    not interested in discussing how reaslistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls

  41. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should i give my courier an actual name or just go with Courier Six?

  42. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    These guys exist solely to hype up Lonesome Road and add even higher stakes since its the last DLC for NV. Everyone knows they're stupid and their gameplay doesn't reflect their lore "oh nooo they're gonna overrun everything" bs.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >and their gameplay doesn't reflect their lore
      this is one of the funniest parts about them. they give you a nail gun to kill them, how bad can these things be?

  43. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder how fricking bad Pittsburgh was that it made almost an entire BoS chapter become selfless knights, and that Ashur's literal slavery is better in comparison.

  44. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    wait so I know no one at Amazon who's making the show ever played the games, nevermind the DLC but shouldn't the world be fricked by the tunnelers by now?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another guy with flares and a police revolver came through The Divide and wiped the rest of them out, sorry.

  45. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    How fricked are the NCR in the wrong run? I remember one of the scientists mentioned that California is running out of resources.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Their money is fricking wortthless since they lost their gold, they're basically speedrunning America.

  46. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both NV and 3 have stupid fricking shit that don't make sense. It's why TTW is always the superior option. 4 sucks

  47. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's unforgiveable how people keep acting like DUST is canon and keeps sneaking into game discussion. It's not even a good mod.

  48. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should i play the Wasteland games?

  49. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ctrl+f "smeagle"
    >0 results
    >ctrl+f "gollum"
    >0 results
    this board lacks culture

  50. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i didn't really get it, they aren't any more dangerous than deathclaws and die to mag dumping like everything else

  51. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think it's more amusing that pretty much everyone ignores them in any and all discussion because as an enemy they're more of a nuisance in the DLC and lore wise they're such an obtrusive entity that doesn't really have any direct impact on any faction at all that everyone just sort of forgets about them and that they allegedly could dig away the San Andreas fault line or some stupid shit.

  52. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    This guy could make a better TV show than whatever the frick the current one will be.

  53. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  54. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    God, this show is going to be a disaster. Hopefully to the point of it being swept under the rug eventually.

  55. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >That's literally the core Bethesda MO. You come up with a mythos, don't memorize it, and invent shit on the fly to explain away all inconsistencies when you don't give a shit about your own product.
    I'm posting this from the neighboring TES thread because of how accurate it is

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't they literally have a lore book for TES? Doesn't seem accurate.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        If they do, then the cover must be made of solid steel cause they sure as shit ain't opening it

  56. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hasn't the Boneyard always been a shithole? That's where the series seems to be set in

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