https://www.psypost.org/2022/06/sexualized-video-games-are-not-causing-harm-to-male-or-female-players-according-to-new-research-63388
>“Overall, the ‘moral panic’ over video games and sexualization is pretty much following the ‘paint-by-numbers’ pattern of the video game debate. Lots of hyperbole and moral outrage, but very little evidence that video games are causing any ‘harm’ to either male or female players.”
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She looks like she has Down Syndrome
How many more times are you going to make this exact same fricking thread
Until everyone on Ganker hates sexualization in video games.
As many times as I possibly can.
If you want to get this into the zeitgeist proper, you're going to have to go beyond Ganker.
I’m tempted to grab Ryza since it’s on sale but I heard both games end high on the BITTERsweet scale and I kinda hate that.
Is it true?
>How many more times are you going to make this exact same fricking thread
This quote should be a permanent banner on Ganker
>on Ganker
on Ganker
Reminder: anyone that becomes irrationally angry over these findings belongs on ResetEra.
Sexualized video games are harming me with overmasturbation.
>he cant control his urges and unleash them on his wife
ngmi
>wife
>thinking the average Gankerirgin can even get a GF
Average Nintendie is married and has children. Tendies also make up the majority (average) of Ganker enjoyers
Those aren't the same groups. Nintendo owners are not homogenous and the AVERAGE person doesn't go to Ganker, only the dregs do.
The only horse in this race is that I like to watch that site seethe. It's been a good week, between this and the Rex stuff.
There's really no pleasing "folks" like that.
im sure the dude won't be b***hing if the epilogue was vice versa.
This guy wouldn’t be saying anything until after his fellow board members supplied him with an opinion to have.
Poor people hate rich people and ugly people hate attractive people and that's because religion was removed from the equation because religion gave people a coping strategy of the afterlife being a reward and life being a test. There are those that live and let live but they are in increasingly lower numbers because social media forms pockets of radicalization where likeminded people don't hear differing opinions.
Resetera is full of incels that masquerade as considerate people who want to protect others from exploitation while engaging in cathartic bullying tactics and crybullying to get their way, basically psychopathic behavior.
>I'm a 14 y/o kid
>i'm an incel
>poor people hate rich people
I work with and live around wealthy people, it's actually the other way around.
The rich, the wealthy, they hate it that a man can be happy without being rich. They hate it because even though they are rich, they are fricking miserable from all the shit they have to do to maintain their wealthy lifestyle. So they are resentful, they hate that poor people can be happy with less, so they actively work to make things harder for them.
Most poor people I know look up to and idolize the wealthy. if they really knew what the wealthy thought of them, they would probably not like it, but would move past it. The wealthy literally cannot move past their issues, because no one challenges them to be better people.
Rich people who outright hate the poor are out of fashion. You have the weird contradiction of the "Champaign socialist" these days. People forever projecting how much they love and identify with the poor, except they never actually spend time around them.
>Is this just another conservative arguing point
>Not wanting women to cover up is conservative now
>>Not wanting women to cover up is conservative now
>you, who is not a woman, wants to personally decide how women dress based on your sexual attraction to said women
Demanding that women wear less and demanding that women wear more is the same thing, it's a demand based on sex.
Dress like a prostitute, get treated like a prostitute. Look like a bath rug get treated like a prude. b***h all you like but books have covers and were just telling you how you're being read.
Go to resetera and say that to them, not me moron.
Conservative in this context probably means resistant to changes. It doesn't always take on the political meaning.
I don't understand why the political left decided to rip-off the old right arguments about sex and video games corrupting children and destroying society.
Get your own material you lazy jerks!
Also on a more serious note I really don't understand how they can fail to see the massive similarities between their puritanical crusade against sex in media and the conservative puritanical crusade against sex in media. How can you literally do the same thing you laughed at your opponents for doing 10-20 years ago and not notice?
>How can you literally do the same thing you laughed at your opponents for doing 10-20 years ago and not notice?
By gaslighting everyone, including themselves.
>that pic
That's some pretty impressive whataboutism there lol.
>You're angry that your media is being censored! Well MY much more important media about gender dysphoria is also being censored (except it literally isn't being censored, but simply not being supplied to schools and physical book retailers in one state and is still available unaltered if purchased online, which I proved when I purchased it online).
Like wow that is a weak fricking argument.
>You're angry that your media is being censored! Well MY much more important media about naked women dancing is also being censored (except it literally isn't being censored, but simply including an option to not have her naked and is still available unaltered if you don't activate that option, which I proved by not using that option).
Show me where Bayonetta is being taken off store shelves and then we'll talk
You missed what the groomer is actually saying
>showing sexy women to children might make them join the normal sex tribe and that's wrong
>they should read about gay anal sex so they can join my gay anal sex tribe instead
Who the frick looks at Bayo's ass and thinks "this is the same as teaching children gender dysphoria"? Groomers.
Horseshoe theory is real
This is what I've been saying. Come full fricking circle from
>women should be able to wear whatever they want no matter how provocative
To
>stop sexualising women in media! Fictional women are still women and they are being forced to wear provocative clothing! Cover them up or we will cry nonstop!
Its about objectification in media
What about the people who willfully wear that shit? Twitch cosplayers? Performers? Models? No one forced them to put that shit on and make sure it's seen online.
Real women have agency, game women dont. Objectification is literally an object with no agency being forced to do things (which is what video game girls in bawdwear basically are). Real women choose to wear that stuff, so you are making a false equivalence.
We should stop the objectification of ugly women, fat people, and LGBT in video games too
>I literally can't tell the difference between fictional characters and real people
pretty sure that's a symptom of autism
>pretty sure that's a symptom of autism
*leftism
Same difference
No, some tists are based (most good mods come mainly from them)
There are no based leftists.
I am an autist and I can usually detach myself from games. if the game has a route where you can be a dick, it takes something special to actually make me feel bad.
so no, whatever that is, it's worse than autism.
>he thinks he can porn banned
you are fricking moronic lol. pornography has been always around. you will not eliminate it unless you control every fricking aspect of people's lives.
but at that point, you are no fricking better than censorship prostitutes and whatever boogeyman you are thinking of.
Exactly my point. Video game women aren't women. They're 3D models inside of a program that is at its core only 1's and 0's. And if its such a big issue for people who don't like it, they don't have to buy it. I don't like the way "God" is portrayed by the israelites and that's my own stupid opinion. Never owned any israeli religious garbage. Never will and it hasn't been an issue for me because I'm not immersing myself into something I don't like.
This you? lmao
>pic
How do people like this exist? Why can't they just keep to themselves? What is the thought process of saying all that shit while openly retweeting that stuff?
>bitching over the Love Live! ad
Did "people" really get upset over something so tame?
>How do people like this exist?
They want everyone to be just as miserable as they are.
i can testify that works though it was a powerswing and not a punch
>objects need rights! no longer shall they be forced to dress as the patriarchy sees fit!
You sound like a fricking moron.
>Objectification is literally an object with no agency being forced to do things (which is what video game girls in bawdwear basically are)
Video game characters also are forced to be killed in horrible ways, why aren't you worried about them instead? Maybe because they're video game characters and none of this matters.
The same thing applies to male characters as well. The objectification is not only equal, but in many cases affects men worse. Male characters are clay pidgeon, target practice that you need to destroy, there usually goes zero empathy or thinking in enemies (who are overwhelmingly male). Even you don't give a shit that men are being mown down by the thousands. They're a statistic at best. But we're fine with it, and we're fine with objectified women as well.
All I see is someone jealous that a video game character is prettier than them.
What about getting killed in a cutscene or the player slaughtering them? Wen human rights for 1s and 0s?
Then by that logic ALL female video game characters are objectified including feminist darlings like Ellie. Afterward, she didn’t choose to dress like this, Druckman chose this outfit for her just like Okubo chose to put Ivy in (shitty) dominatrix gear.
I like Ivys outfits, frick you Black person
Don’t get me wrong, Ivy’s main outfits are hot as frick but they’re still shitty dominatrix gear. See, dominatrices usually wear firm, supportive corsets because it makes their frames bigger and so they look more impressive especially when next to their predominantly male clientele. Ivy’s outfits on the other hand, would be better on a SUBMISSIVE, what with them all being fairly impractical getups that don’t offer any support and look like they might slip at any moment. Again, the real issue with Ivy’s design is actually that it’s just not the right kind of sexualization, not that she’s sexualized in the first place. Unfortunately no one wants to talk her design from a character perspective like that, instead either oping to scream
>DURRRR IVY BAD BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE HER DIRTY PILLOWS
or
>HURRRR YOU JUST HATE BECAUSE YOU PRUDE
with nothing in between.
>it’s just not the right kind of sexualization
And?
>but muh realism
Ivy's outfit meant to look scattered because it represents her weapon and fighting style. I thought of it as a cool design even before I hit puberty and started actually caring about sexy stuff.
I think other skimpy shit like Quiet's design is also pretty cool, and you tards are killing your own enjoyment of these characters by having to justify sexual designs with realism to be able to enjoy them.
While we're talking about good and bad sexy character design, how do you feel about xenoblade? All of the designs are hot, but I think only a handful like Pandoria, and Morag a handful fit their personality.
I’m not arguing for realism moron, if I was I’d say something like
>Uhhhh, why is this lady with a magic snake sword fight a golem in HIGH HEELS?? Don’t the devs know how impractical that is?????
I was simply arguing that she should different fetish gear… although I will admit I didn’t take into account that her costumes’ cut up look is probably supposed to represent her weapon when it’s extended. I’m the moron in that situation but she would still look better with stronger breast support, especially because it would actually make her breasts look even BIGGER believe or not
A digression: Her alternate costume in SC was a military officer's uniform. She was my main, and I chose her alt costume because she looks really cool in it.
Its about the sexualization. Men shouldnt be allowed to decide when women are sexualized, only women should sexualize themselves. Women should also decide how they are depicted in media.
>Men shouldnt be allowed to decide when women are sexualized, only women should sexualize themselves
Yes, the unified group of "men" must let the unified group called "women" decide.
Women have literally been fighting for years to be represented better in media.
>so fricking shit that they need other men to do their job for them
Even with women In the media no still cares.
And racists have been fighting for years to be represented better in media, what makes your cause correct?
>Respecting women and not wanting them to be seen as sex objects is the same as hating a whole group of people.
>Respecting women means video game characters can't be sexy
Yep, it's the other stupid side of Ganker.
If it means not reducing women into objects, then yeah.
>Prove to me they're being disrespected in the first place dipshit, my stance is that they arent
ok
I'm sorry, are you saying that strippers don't deserve respect? Being a stripper is inherently disrespectful to the woman herself?
Im saying that the developers reduce her as a sex object for men.
How? You didn't say anything, you posted a picture of a girl being sexual. So I can only go off what I'm shown. You think being sexual is inherently disrespectful or undeserving of respect.
Open your goddamn mouth and say what you mean
So what? She's a fictional character.
Its how women are represented in media.
And men are represented as targets to shoot at. Who gives a shit.
Sexual objectification of women holds more baggage than violence towards men
No. What happens if objecitfication has real life implication? What happens if reducing men has real life implications? One is worse than the other. But it doesn't matter because neither are actually happening.
*objectification of women
*reducing men to targets to shoot at
What do you mean by baggage, and why does it matter?
Objectificaion of women effects society more and carries more historical weight than men being shot at
No, neither has any meaning in real life.
But the study at the top says it has no effect. Thus you are wrong.
>than men being shot at
Also, men in media also have personalities and character, while most of the women are sex objects with no personality or character
The vast majority of male characters in say Call of Duty do not have personality or character, because you have around 5 allied characters and shoot thousands of enemies. Having said that, do sexualized female characters really have less character or personality than the average CoD NPC? That's an assumption on your part.
No? Watch a soap opera. Literally some of the most successful and long running media franchises.
Watch a few sitcoms too.
I do love this weird double standard where any media explicitly aimed at or made by women suddenly doesn't count, like that's not an incredibly sexist attitude in itself.
>nooo! only comic book characters made for children in the 60's count!
You know what this post tells me? Youre either trolling or you don't consume any media that features woman
Which to be fair thats just standard feminist hypocrisy
If it's so easy to make them objects they were never really human to begin with.
Road to hell is paved with good intentions
Prove to me they're being disrespected in the first place dipshit, my stance is that they arent and that you're lying. Refute that instead of repeating the same talking points with no actual backing.
Pathologising male sexuality can be seen as hateful.
i genuinely don't understand that video of the klan guy talking to the black dude all friendly recent-ish
just so fricking bizarre
you must realize on some level how moronic this argument is. would you suddenly be ok with sexualization in video games on the level of senran kagura if a woman designed the game?
They took that from them too. Remember when they banned booth babes and race queens and all the models were b***hing that they lost their sidejobs because of people who don't even attend those events anyway?
Media is an object to begin with, so it's a meaningless sentiment. Images don't have human rights, and shouldn't.
Selling a person into slavery is the kind of "objectification" I might have an issue with.
Because American politics and those who's lives revolve around them are complete morons, more at 11.
The secret is the two sides are on the same team, they switch up which is the “dominant party” from time to time but in the end they want more power for corporations and restrictions on your freedoms
One is justified, the other is not. When we want things censored it's usually shit like child porn, or gore in children's movies. Stuff that's pretty reasonable. When the left wants to censor things it's deranged and unhinged.
Just remember that not all censorship and puritanism is bad.
>like child porn
again fueled from 80s crime wave hysteria and "tough on crime" bs back then. Not mention modern AoC being literally derived purtian Christian feminazis.
>gore in children's movies.
except you gays crusade against vidya too
frick off Black person.
>except you gays crusade against vidya too
Yeah, because a lot of material in gaming is pretty fricking gross. I don't think games like GTA or Max Payne should have the right to blow random people's brains out. I'm confident that's a huge reason for school shootings. That's perfectly reasonable censorship, unlike most game companies who censor people because they're white.
>I'm confident that's a huge reason for school shootings.
There is, it's called am*rican culture.
>I'm confident that's a huge reason for school shootings
And they say we have advantages as a species.
>I'm confident that's a huge reason for school shootings.
Ah yes Dunning-Kruger. The biggest brainlets have the most confidence in their positions.
>unlike most game companies who censor people because they're white.
Most school shooters are white. The censorship makes sense, no???
>ALL studies by people who actually went to college are JUST LIES
>ME, random Ganker dude, KNOWS IT. I AM CONFIDENT IN THIS OPINION.
college makes morons as well as with the netherlands trying to "reduce their reliance on farming" or the dumbasses on their island reintroducing bison into their hills again for no real reason.
>everyone in higher education is dumber than me
Yes I'm sure
>>ALL studies by people who actually went to college are JUST LIES
Correct.
>ALL studies by people who actually went to college are JUST LIES
more likely than you think
>One fraud study = all of science being fraud
>One white mass shooter = all whites being innocent
enjoy your replication crisis
It's a big problem, but peer-reviewed research is still better than your alternative of blindly believing things you read online
Covid studies were frauds too by the way and thanks to idiots like you we cant even sue em
Because the reality is they were never "old right arguments".
The "conservative right" in the United States at least only ever had a "we don't agree with it, but as long as you don't hurt any kids, it's fine, it's free speech" stance on shit like rock&roll, comics, D&D and video games. Actual conservatism.
Lefty political opportunists were always the ones leading the charge against such things, waging "wars" on every little new thing and most of all using other groups with some status (most of all Catholicism) as their sword, shield AND scapegoat to try and gain control. Fear and hysteria makes misdirection and narrative control easy.
Crack open some history books, look at the main people involved in pushing for legislation and social control over media and major product going as far back as the 1910s when Prohibition was ratified with a Democrat majority congress and president. All lefty politicians and radical activists in major liberal cities are always pushing for extreme levels of control; few have red on their docket.
It's only thanks to the right being able to coerce bipartisan concessions that most laws the US over media are minor regulations, not a severe crackdown nor content control the likes of which the left want or other nations such as Britain were able to impose in the past.
VIDEO GAMES in particular were rallied against purely by Democrat senators in the 80s and 90s on the grounds of violence, and it was only from bipartisan dissent that they were able to come to a compromise, the creation of the ESRB as the only regulatory measure, no restrictions to the content of the games themselves.
That mod's language is reminiscence of a concentration camp guard
Do they still ban discussing the Harry Potter game?
If the same publication made the opposite point you would have disregarded it.
This is getting tossed around multiple times daily because its conclusion affirms what you want to believe, not because you would have accepted the conclusion regardless of your prior beliefs.
I'm cumming
>drop something
>they say it falls
>"Uhhh, if they said it flew away you would've disregarded it"
Sometimes things are just true
>If the same publication made the opposite point you would have disregarded it
Anon, the only way that could've happened is if sexualization was actually harmful.
And this is why the world is doomed. Modern society depends on the masses being able to accept each other to a degree. Every non-hunter/gatherer aspect of our lives is arbitrary and requires a mutual understanding and willingness to cooperate under those aspects. Nowadays we live in such a fractured world that people no longer feel this way, whether they know it or not. Even if they see something they opposed or didn't believe in is true, they ignore it and may even actively fight it, fully aware of the implications of their stance, as those truths opposite their convictions no longer support the ideal world they once wanted and see slipping away. The "radical left" and "radical right" are both already heavily indoctrinated into this survivalist mindset: They already know what they want in society to such an absolute degree that right or wrong is no longer based in reality; anything that's either a verifiable truth or ideal that doesn't fit the narrative is actively squashed. I.e. it doesn't matter if sexual video game media isn't actually harmful, even if you got to expose a resetera user to the undeniable truth of it, they may even give their life to fortify their rebuttal, because it's simply against their beliefs. Same with rightoids, who have co-opted trolling as a catch-all vehicle to enact their similarly unmoving stance on how they want the world to be.
It's no longer about what reality actually is, but about how you and the people you identify with can work together to change what right and wrong means, to reach the ideal world where you feel that things are finally right.
Lol so the left is now into trajectory of puritanism? i though they love degeneracy in every form? or is this another form of hypocricy where it is only bad if it is attractive women?
It's literally just an "us vs them" mindset. Everyone does this nowadays, it fricking sucks.
They're just reflexively against anything considered normal and traditional. Heterosexual men enjoying attractive women is bad, but men enjoying attractive men or women enjoying attractive women is fine.
>i though they love degeneracy in every form?
Everything that isn't designed by Japan for straight dudes is fine.
>THEY are ok with this scene but not Senran girls and DOA girls
Pedos outing themselves yet again who would have thought
its funny that its always the people screeching about something that end up doing that exact thing
>judging facts and arguments by who says them, general inability to determine an idea's value except through feelings about morality, replacing evidence with feelings or even delusions, moral panic, and censorship
Oh no, no no no, ree sisters!
>Don't post articles from right-wing chuds
>Administrator
kek i don't pay much attention to /misc/shit but them using the meme word unironically is funny as frick
based
honk
Is she supposed to be standing on a mattress? She might as well jump on the floor with how her jumps and weight dont affect it at all.
>Japanese """humour"""
HONKERS
>harm as a metric
It's okay to drug and rape kids bro. Nobody is getting harmed bro. Frick off israelites
>moronic baby babble
How do you figure nobody is getting harmed?
>Nobody is getting harmed bro
No, you're harming kids
Unless you mean in fiction, in which case yeah, nobody is getting harmed
I'm going to frick Ryza
Do we need to have this thread, AGAIN
These threads are just as harmless as sexualization.
We didn't need a "heckin peer reviewed study" about this.
>TRUST THE SCIENCE!
a orgasm makes you lazy
a orgasm cuts your potential
a orgasm makes your brain foggy
you dont need sex in your games
you should only release your seed to make babies with your wife
Abe, you're supposed to be dead. I saw Kojima shot you.
God doesn't exist
Jesus was just a guy
Something being written in a book doesn't make it real
Maybe but since you have the answer what created all of this?
>not waking up every day with Faith boost
>not wanting a traditional gf
>doesn't want miracles
Be gone heretic.
You're more heretic than the other atheist says. Very hypocritical one.
When you die you'll end up in Hell getting raped by the Devil.
>>not wanting a traditional gf
What the frick is this shit
That post mentioned nothing related to the bible or spirituality. In fact, it was entirely secular and materialistic yet you bring up God out of no where. I'm thinking you need to resolve your issues with Jesus.
It's AN orgasm.
homosexual.
Look at this fat ugly morons. have a nice day up. You and trannies deserve to be gaslighted.
Sir, I'm gonna redeem your bloody bastard ass, I WILL MAKE YOU DESTITUTE
"An" orgasm you dumb moron.
Go back to school.
You will not take away my sexy russian spies.
Egads, a ESL.
I'm 31 and a virgin my seed never going into a woman's womb anyway so why bother?
ook eek la
This moronation is never going to work. No one listens to you ~~*people*~~ anymore.
>you should only release your seed to make babies with your wife
For what purpose?
Do you have a study for that? Gonna need some sources
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0747563222001637
This. I'm gonna have to see the the meta-analysis.
wait I thought we didn't care about what medical journals and shit said, why does this one suddenly matter?
>trust the scientis- NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THIS ONE TWITTER SAVE ME
There's a non-zero percent chance this is as much of an asspull as any other LE SCIENCE SAYS article, but personally for me it's just a good point for exposing the hypocricy of science cult twitter goblins for the 6th gorillionth time.
Not that it helps in any way, since these people operate by aggressively lying about everything ever, but hey, if I wanted to be objectively productive about the problem I'd be forming my own lynch mob instead of talking about dumb people on the Taiwanesse microchip manufacturing forum.
The difference is we are never called to be the side of "science & rationality." You can't hold us to your standards when you are so far beneath them.
Whatever happened to "Trust the science" huh chud?
um i think im shadowbanned
sóyience isn't real
Yet another made up study says that left wing ""people"" are not only not funny, but also gay as shit
Crack a joke then
What do you call a mix between a pitbull and a german shepherd?
Der Kindershredder
>a pitbull and a german shepherd?
my fellow german shepherds
When you are Russian for food, there is no time for Stalin.
heheh
That's not how comedy works. "jokes" are almost never funny, because it's pre-packaged, and not situational or a reflection of quick thinking wit.
You say something funny.
something funny
My life!
What's the hardest part to bite when eating a vegetable?
The weelchair
>why homosexuals want to get married? after all this time on media nobody is supossed to like marriage and everyone want to divorce
>like dude you are 2 fricking man you are not sustaining anyone is not like one of you were woman
>the only good thing about gay marriage is that at least we know that nobody will get the custody
>because they cant reproduce and have kids
umm sneed?
That's a good one
A man walks into a coffee. Fssshhhhh
Most of them aren't trying to be funny?
Hitler wasn't funny bro bad vibes 🙁
The whole thing is a non-sequitur, as political humor isn't funny at all.
Hitler is pretty funny though. The mustache, the silly walks. It's iconic.
Authoritarians aren't very funny in general. Including the ones that want to prevent people from enjoying breasts in their games.
Authoritarians aren't very funny * ftfy
You guys are shilling this article so hard, but I bet it's totally going to backfire on you guys eventually.
I can already see it: children, animals and trannies getting sexualized in your favorite video-game franchises and then when you dare complain about it, "This article proves there's no problem, you were fine with it before! Clearly you're some kind of phobe!"
It's like fish setting up their own bait.
>when you dare complain about it
Why would I complain? Devs should be free to make what they want. If if doesn't appeal to me, I just won't buy it.
You think pic related is a good point as well?
Bro bring it I'm ok with both designs.
>pic
not that anon, but i long for the conan aesthetic to return
massive naked burly men and women dominating through physical strength and determination
My, what a hot take, you dumb fricking twatter c**toid.
He man is a male power fantasy. Hbomberguy has a good video debunking your bullshit https://youtu.be/coNQAucXoNM
Everything is male power fantasy because GUYS RULE, GALS DROOL
>Hbomberguy
lol
>we're more accepting of being a man and not having sex
What the frick? No we're not. The perception has gone from Steve Carrel, to Elliot Rodger.
Yeah, "incel" is a popular insult for anyone you disagree with now. You might try to say incel means more than just virgin, but that particular insult is chosen because of the sad virgin element.
Btw hbomberguy is also on the same side that calls low status men incel constantly lol. Hbomberguy is also a radical feminists as well (he pushes a lot of feminist shit in his videos). Hes a screenshot from the shirtgate incident in 2014. He even admits that if the men were sexualized too, it still wouldnt have as much "baggage" as female sexualization
>hrtbomberguy compares sexualizing women/men to slavery and race issues
It's always trying to create an us vs them narrative. These people should be chemically castrated.
trust me. No one is fricking commies. Thats why they bring up sex and tell conservatards they arent having sex. its projection.
Their group of mindset prostitutes who sell their bodies sell themselves to men who can afford it, and thats usually right leaning people that have a job other than sitting on.twitter all day crying about nazis and racism,
HRTBomberguy is so bad with his takes he mamaged to make me disagree his Fallout 3 video despite hating the game myself.
>shows statistics and data
>nooooo it doesnt count but my personal opinion on it without any evidence is more valid!!!
what a fricking moron, glad I've never watched his hours long video essays. Cant even imagine what kind of intellectual diarrhea these encompass
Sorry, I can't hear your cries over the Spanish lyrics.
I have a good video of you being filmed on your way to the grocery store.
Hbomberguy is a weeb commie who made a two hour video about the atomic bombs where he insisted that Japan was nuked because Americans are racist and they surrendered because they were scared of the chad Soviets, despite American and Japanese historical records stating the exact opposite.
Ah yes, this is my favorite book to read for my male power fantasy.
This reasoning has always been terrible because what is or isn't a 'power fantasy' is entirely up to interpretation.
By this logic, there IS NO WAY to objectify a male character because anything you do to make them appealing to women can be interpreted as a power fantasy aimed at men wanting to be appealing to women.
It's an argument couched in the blatantly false implication that all men LOVE being physically appealing to women and that all women HATE being physically appealing to men. Effectively using a double standard to create a situation where only women can be objectified (but doing so in a way that allows the person making the argument to avoid actually saying that outright, because it would make them seem like an unreasonable hypocrite).
It is a common power fantasy of both men and women to be physically attractive to the opposite sex (and sometimes also the same sex). I know this because there's an unfathomable amount of media written BY women FOR women about a main female character who's primary trait is how incredibly attractive she is and how it draws men to her.
No this is not 'internalized sexism', it's the same power fantasy as a man wanting to look like a supermodel with a swimmer's body so all the ladies will drool over him and I wish people would stop using these mealy-mouthed, bullshit arguments to try and make-believe that women don't enjoy being attractive and would never want to play as an attractive character in a video game.
Its about the creators intention.To be fair though, do you really think that a character like Ivy Valentine or Mai was made for women to self-insert into, or for men to jerk off to?
To be cool and attractive characters for fighting games. Nothing wrong with making sexy characters for men to enjoy, not every game needs to be for every person.
So you admit that being a bimbo doll isnt empowering?
For some women it is, and I think characters like Ivy have more to them than just being bimbo dolls. But frankly, who gives a shit? Characters don't need to be "empowering," the creators can make whatever they want.
What about Ivy is more than just being sexy? Also, its about the creators intention. Some women may ivy empowering, but that wasnt the creators intention.
>What about Ivy is more than just being sexy?
Her personality, cool weapon and style, interesting gameplay. Her backstory is pretty cool too if you're into the game:
https://soulcalibur.fandom.com/wiki/Ivy/Original_Timeline#Early_life
A character being sexy and showing a lot of skin doesn't mean there's nothing else to the character.
Also, when men see Ivy, they dont see an actual character. They see a sex object
Another example. Felicia is a nearly naked catgirl, and she's a fantastically designed character with a fun personality and story. There's a lot of detail and thought going into her animations that makes her interesting. How she moves when fighting and everything about her is cool.
I disagree with that. Men are generally the ones writing those elaborate wiki entries about her story and arguing about it online.
What do you think the average male gamer sees when he sees a character like Ivy?
>Look how complex and deep my waifu tit ninja is!
They'll see that it's an attractive character, but that's not all they'll think about. I don't know why people like you can't see beyond the boobs. I think the average male gamer cares more about games than you think. Do you really dismiss everything else that goes into a character because they have nice tiddies?
>Do you really dismiss everything else that goes into a character because they have nice tiddies?
When thats all their known for, then yeah.
>Aloy
>having a personality
More personality than those other bimbos.
Its not about restricting artistic freedom, its about respecting women.
Video games aren't women.
I think porn is pretty disrespectful to women, and you seem okay with that.
Yeah, that's pretty weird isn't it? The same people will say "just look at porn."
>More personality than those other bimbos
so now your objectifying them by thinking of them as objects instead of characters, stfu
Aloy is not a better character than Tifa, she's just uglier
>When thats all their known for, then yeah.
Except it's not all they're known for, people actually appreciate these characters beyond their breasts. Even when their breasts are very popular.
Pretty sure you're just baiting anyway, especially with that Aloy reference.
So what though? Having a target audience isn't a moral wrong.
It can also be both, and very often is. You don't have to move far to find a woman who loves classic Lara Croft, or Catwoman, or whatever.
its for both
look at women who cosplay and play as those characters
You could just as easily say classically attractive women are a female power fantasy, because, well they are. Women love the idea of being sexy and in control. That's how the fashion industry makes most of it's money.
Unironically based. It's funny because saying "it's a power fantasy" shows how sexist feminists tend to be. They conflate wanting to be sexually attractive with traditional masculine roles.
only non moronic post ITT
>Effectively using a double standard to create a situation where only women can be objectified (but doing so in a way that allows the person making the argument to avoid actually saying that outright, because it would make them seem like an unreasonable hypocrite).
>replies with a double standard
Way to prove his point, dipshit
Again, ita about the creators intent. Voldo wasnt meant to be jerked off too, while Ivy was.
So your rebuttal is that everybody should trust your headcannon? Holy shit
>Voldo wasnt meant to be jerked off too
Look, just because you’re asexual, that doesn’t mean most other people with taste can’t jerk it to some good malesub now and then
>This reasoning has always been terrible because what is or isn't a 'power fantasy' is entirely up to interpretation.
No, it's terrible because there is nothing wrong with power fantasies. There is nothing wrong with female characters being sex objects either. Nothing wrong with it because it's all made up.
Imagine a WWII movie without nazis because they were the baddies. The 101st airborne parachutes over Normandie and spend 112 minutes fighting trees, rocks and ditches because there are no nazis to fight. Also, said 101st airborne are made up of 50% women and 50% diversity characters. Some old guys and some fatsos. Above all, no fit white male 20somethings, because that would be a power fantasy.
No. There is nothing wrong with any of the classic tropes. Power fantasies are common, and good, in entertainment because it feels good to feel powerful.
Midwit take.
Remove the chest string on the male or arrange it in a different position and you have a perfectly functional design.
>male nipples are exposed
>female nipples arent
lo
I am.
As you can see in the OP, it doesn't matter if we have sexualized characters in the first place. Stop worrying about what idiots like Hbomberguy think and let people have fun.
Homura!
>female version has X shaped "swimsuit" on the chest
>male version has choker connected by gay leather perpendicular straps.
come on you were almost there
It should be covering his nipples or her nipples should be uncovered if she wants some true equivalence
But yeah go for it
No, you actually don't have to be ok with it. Not everything needs to target everyone, and you're not obligated to enjoy something that doesn't appeal to you simply to "be fair" or some nonsense. My attitude has always been "live and let live". Ouran high school host club REALLY wasn't my cup of tea, but I see no reason why it shouldn't be allowed to exist, and I don't think there's a need to add breasts to it to appeal to me.
I wish more people would realize when they aren't part of the target audience and just move on, or start create something targeted at people like themselves instead. But no. Anita sarkeesian would have been better off creating something new instead of trying to shame others into NOT creating the things they want.
>she actually thought this was a provocative gotcha as if neckbeards would recoil in disgust at the sight of a half-naked muscle man (a fantasy genre staple)
Every fricking time self-styled "culture critics" make it hilariously clear they don't know shit about the culture they're critiquing.
FREE
THE
NIPPLE
Not only is this some weird ass LGBT gaslighting, but we get the right far more often than the left these days. Just look at mortal kombat.
the right is literally hades. nobody complained. this argument has never been the gotcha lefties seem to think it is.
>ackchyually
>The reason for all those OW porns is because they're empowered.
Actually got a good chuckle out of that.
chest strap should be higher/angled so it also covers the nips, and the crotch should be a little looser to let the balls hang, then it'd be equal
Why not? I welcome it.
My favorite game franchises already have children, animals and trannies getting sexualized though
>children, animals and trannies getting sexualized
>children
UOH ToT
>animals
meh. better be hot
>troons
Anime style traps are fine.
Actually we won't because unlike the morons online, we just won't buy that gay shit. It already is happening with other crap games that were marketed based on outrage clicks.
And you think that'll stop from israelites and trannoids from wanting to destroy beauty in the name of "representation" and "realism"?
No, but it'll still piss them off.
What will? A study that'll be forgotten in a month?
Yes. See
Besides, it's already been a month.
Coom shit aside, why do the graphics of this game look so good compared to the upcoming pokemon game (richest franchise on earth)?
smarr independent company
prease understand
Don't get me started on Pokemon. I've played several low-budget JRPGs that do damn near everything better (including battle animations) than modern Game Freak. They have no excuse.
Serri's bikini bottoms are low cut in model but the official picture shows it as high cut
does anybody have the edited version of this with Serri's breasts being bigger
thanks
Studies like this are worthless because there doesn't exist a single control group that hasn't been exposed to all the degeneracy.
You'd have to do the study on some people like the Amish, expose them to lewd video games/movies, and see if it changes anything.
>study on some people like the Amish
nope, when you are a teenager in the amish you get to explore the world for a year and then decide to go back into the fold or not, many surprisingly do go back, and there are electrician amish.
Left: I'll frick that.
Right: I wish I looked like that
is for
They are causing harm to the video game industry as people will just buy the coomer bait and disregard anything else
That has literally never happened though.
actually that is what happened to dead or alive franchise, then they tried to get away from it in 6 and it flopped hard due to old fans wanting the coom.
Then 7 was cancelled during development, right
Probably because the serious fighting game audience are playing different fighting games. DoA was the fighting game franchise for people who really like boobs, and then it stopped being that franchise. What did they think was going to happen?
it's jap people, some how they think people are still honorable/follow rules/and jump to any game that might require "skill" even though the only way japan makes money is drawn porn/ yakuza porn/ and people in suits destroying minatures.
Neck theirselves, so should you too.
dial 8
Japanese shit should have only stay in japan shit. So people outside japan wouldn't get it and should hang their worthless selves up in a tree and combust.
"tried" what they did was toned it down for streamers and for esports. unfortunate because it was always full of detail no other fight game does
We knew that already
The subreddit r/mendrawingwomen seems to disgaree https://www.reddit.com/r/JustUnsubbed/comments/w1562o/just_unsubbed_from_rmendrawingwomen_becayse_like/ Look at the comments on this post lol
what is peoples obsession with realism these days, can't enjoy a picture of a girl in an astronaut suit without nitpicking everything
The comments are ripping apart the OP because he criticized the sub r/mendrawingwomen
Man there was a similar subreddit that literally nitpicked a lesbian's fetish art
>I mean those balloon breasts are pretty ugly and unrealistic tho.
>muh breasts are too big REEEEEEEE
アニメをオカズにオナニするのが出来なくなれば自殺するぞ
well yeah the only people that get upset with it are jaded female that can't compete with digital or 2d girls. Why do you think it's women that champion against sex robots?
https://archive.org/details/sexualization-games/page/n3/mode/2up
Free Link to the paper itself, rather than a story labout the paper. The link in the story to the paper is blocked by a paywall, frick academia blocking research from people. They'll charge you like $30-50 for one pdf sometimes.
of course it is. If it weren't then women (who sexualize themselves all the time) would need to discuss the harm of make-up, sexy clothes, etc in real life more than they need to do it for any other medium...oh.
yeah but it can also be boring.
Reminder that Ryza continues to move units while Sophie died on her way back home.
https://twinfinite.net/2022/07/koei-tecmo-financial-results-q1-2022/
>That being said, the press release includes a note that repeat sales of theAtelier Ryza serieswere strong. This is pretty interesting considering that the latest game of the franchise,Atelier Sophie 2: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Dream, was not mentioned. Inthe previous quarterly results, it was mentioned that it had shipped over 200,000 units. The latest numbers we have for the Atelier Ryza series areat 1 million cumulative shipmentsover a year ago.
Shame I like Sophie 2 more than Ryza series. The alchemist system is far more rewarding and the post game was better than Ryza. Ryza was too easy for me even on the legendary difficulty.
Is the game actually worth its sales? What does this particular Atelier have other than Ryza?
Accessibility. It has a VERY low barrier of entry compared to, say, the Arland series.
so what are they gonna do after Ryza 3 and they conclude the "secret" trilogy
another big tiddie protag, hoping that some Ryza-onlygays at least try that one? Ryza 4?
t. started with Ryza but also played Mysterious
does anyone have the ryza 2 dlc files?
Where the FRICK can I find Ryza mods
>I'm helping Japan economy to be greater and I will always support their product
>If only we know what happened in WW2 and project manhattan didn't happen
Caring about this on either side, the horny or the prude, is incredibly stupid. Spending your life worrying about pixelated boobs is ridiculous because you can jerk off to porn for free basically any time you want. The devs aren't trying to unilaterally shame you for being horny, either, it's that they're trying to sell the most copies of their games possible, and "sex sells" is a dead concept in 2022. Things have changed in the market and times have moved on, and indies with the capacity to make games without considerations for its "market penetration" will continue to make the horny shit you coombrained idiots lose your minds over.
>worrying about artistic freedom is ridiculous
Nah.
>artistic freedom
Braindead coomers can't identify real art, HOW?
YOU ARE a piece of shit and should neck your self
Dial 8, on the keypad supplied.
Art is art, "anon" and everyone should be free to create what they want.
>everyone should be free to create what they want
No, just no. Hitler rejected in art school because of art reasons. Not everyone, I mean everyone should be free with it. Lol, lmao even.
If those artists can't stand the corporations they work for asking them to make what they make, they're still free to create on their own. If they had a genuine, moral issue with having the things they make policed, do you think they'd be working in the industry they do? Self-selection is what creates a great deal of the art you're seeing today. As the field as a whole has had to expand aggressively to keep up with the realities of game development past the 6th generation, they've taken in an outrageous amount of new people who, unless there's some hidden outcry we've all been missing hearing about, this doesn't happen.
They're trying to tell you what they want to make, not what you can and can't look at. Go jerk off. Nobody is harmed by you doing that. Go to pixiv or artstation and check out the insane array of pixelated beauty. There's a ton of talent out there, even people who actually work in this industry still putting out personal stuff on the side that fulfills what you're looking for. If you're going to be baited into getting outraged by someone who doesn't represent your interests in a field predominantly made up of people you disagree with, just stop engaging with their content or their discourse. Clearly it's not for you, and there's plenty of other stuff out there.
>They're trying to tell you what they want to make
What world are you living in? Screaming about Nier because the main character wears a skirt, and you don't agree with that is not "expressing your own artistic freedom".
And I don't want to "jerk off", I want to be free of annoying people trying to assert their own backwards moral ideologies over the things I enjoy.
And you know, maybe I don't always want to look at porn. Maybe I want a video game to be porn sometimes. Or not even porn, just vaguely titillating. Why is this suddenly a step too far? Why are you okay with hardcore bukkake, but not Chun Li showing a bit of leg? That is fricking insane, is what that is.
Those games still exist. Go seek them out instead of actively seeking discourse that makes you upset. I've stated several times already that games with a more sexual appeal are still being made, just not by huge corporations whose games you hate anyway.
Chun Li gets to keep showing leg in SF6, too, so I don't know what you're on about. Original costumes are still in.
They wont exist if these people get their way, which is the problem. They have already "de-sexed" plenty of games, by b***hing about it. People need to collectively tell them "no", and they needed to do this ten years ago.
>this doesn't happen
Things weren't this bad until recently.
If you think those artists are being repressed or hate having their work altered, or that they're being demeaned by this, prove to me it's happening. The mere existence of a board whose purpose is to maximize the sales of a game doesn't mean the artists are being kept in cages and not allowed to create anything they like. It's a compromise. A conversation. People talk about what's allowed and how to make what they want within those limitations. And that's at, again, big companies who are concerned solely with profit and not necessarily the craft.
>prove to me it's happening
See pic. I'll never understand what drives "folks" like to barge into threads and talk like you know exactly what's going on.
>It's a compromise
Yes, one already made thanks to rating boards across the globe. There is no need for Sony to step in and start policing content personally.
It's not about the boobs, it's about people trying to tell me what I can and can't look at, and wrapping it all up in language that makes out that they're morally pure, and I'm a piece of shit.
No actually, you can all frick off.
>and "sex sells" is a dead concept in 2022
Are you dumb as bricks? Do you live under a rock?
>"sex sells" is a dead concept in 2022
>literally the biggest video game franchise of modern times
Its dead because its perfectly integrated itself into the psychology of most living humans.
???
Those same peoples claiming sexualization in video games is harmless will also cry and shit their pants to get some sort of sexual weeb game banned. The only reason why those articles exist is to allow western games to put trannies and gay intercourse in their games.
I've seen the same kind of double-thinking happen again and again. It's never for the purpose you wish, it's always to push what THEY want.
Japanese weird shit now is a reason why they deserved to be nuked again. If only the shit they made only stays there, there wouldn't be problem because it's their shit while people outside Japan had holy incompatible with it's culture.
Go and be a troony somewhere else. No one cares, Resettera.
>troony
Why you fat ugly bastards will use this comeback anyone you disagreed to? You and the trannies both deserved to be in a chamber full of fire and gas. You braindead frickers will do anything to express to the world that you're horny and porn addicted. You both are basically the same that plagued Ganker and should have a nice day.
I'd be upset too if I was basically told my ideology was indistinguishable from a ResetEra user's despite believing I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum.
i detect brown skin
As every lurkers here in Ganker and most of them spend in the degenerate threads that spawned out of nowhere that is field with porn.
found em
Someday, Ganker. You'll wake up and realize anti-sexy gamer trolls were just Russian/Chinese/Iranian bots designed to make English speakers all hate each other and burn down the western world.
And it's working too. Take away vidya, you destabilize 21st century society overnight. A grand 10 year plan in the making to destroy the west all started with video games.
Someday, the conspiracy will finally be revealed...
>Russian/Chinese/Iranian bots designed to make English speakers all hate each other and burn down the western world
I feel like this is the source of a lot of different BS online nowadays. Those and a multitude of other groups.
Absolutely wrong. I can point to characters and players in this game. Anita, Randy Pitchford, Jim Sterling, Moviebob. These are not Russian or Chinese bots. These are just politically correct pussies who were able to gain a cultural foothold because society focuses too much on rhetoric and what sounds "nice" instead of what's ethical or true.
I keep telling people this: political correctness is a monster that wants more and more. It will not stop until it has everything. Everyone can fall to political correctness, no matter what demographic, race, culture, or class you are. It's important to be self aware and challenge the things you believe in constantly.
What you're missing is that bots don't necessarily create talking points, they just amplify the voices of the most controversial figures.
That includes all the people you mentioned to get a reaction/outrage from everyone else.
I think this mindset is shitty because it infantilizes the bad faith actors. If bots are responsible for these talking points cropping up, the largest voices are just as to blame, since they're the ones conducting it.
It's like blaming an individual ant for the queen's demands.
>Jim Sterling
Everyone always tries to downplay this homosexual, but I unironically believe he's caused almost as much damage as Antia simply because liberals continue to parrot his opinions to this very day.
It's a nepotistic problem. Sterling is just as much to blame as someone like Moviebob or Vaush or Hbomberguy. They're all buddy-buddies.
I could be wrong, but wasn't there something that leaked recently which shows the CIA funds socialist/communsit streamers to push out propaganda?
How is it that you think it more likely the federal government would try to influence what you think about and frame your way of viewing the world as wrongthink than that you, an individual actor, could be out of touch?
How am I out of touch? Explain.
You would have to be severely mentally handicapped to think the government has anything to gain by trying to push socialism. More trade unions and a stronger working class means less money for the corporations that tell the government what to do. They’ve spent decades pushing anti-socialist propaganda and going to war against every socialist country they can.
He also made a whole video about how sjws had nothing to do with canceling DOA, we just need to take meds. Typical subversive trooon.
It should be cancelled every weird shit Japan made outside Japan so no cultures would conflict.
>we just need to take meds.
he sure did take some meds. kek
aen't these characters 16 year old or something? why does this moron keep calling them "children" and acting surprised that they have boobs?
16 is underage you groomer
what does this have to do with what i said you inbred
16 is still a child
lol
Groomer
leave projecting pedo
See
>a child
>yet at the same time too old
Huh
Not in my country
Where I live 16 is the age of consent.
>not being from michigan where 16 isn't underage
Nope, in pretty much most of the civilized world 16 isn't underaged.
To get his fans to complain and eventually kill the IP. He knew exactly what he was doing from the start.
He was fricked in the head. No wonder he trooned out
People should stop agreeing with them then.
What happens when the accounts that agree with them are also bots? Or when people agree with a point because they see 12 bot accounts repeat it and think it's a mainstream view?
So many assume that social media manipulation was only a right leaning thing when in reality the left gets played hard by it as do people who react to them. The gaming community was never as divided as it became before 2012, and that's right around the time the tech for foreign interference/social media became mature.
We know for a fact that too many of these people are real. We have names, we have faces. What more do you need?
>Russian/Chinese/Iranian bots
noooo you're supposed to blame teh jooz!
Anita and her fans were all russian and chinese. ok i got it.
>the npcs are bots!
yeah no shit
Time to sexualize vidya e-girls, since it's harmless!
look at those sausage fingers
Well, alright. It's at the discretion of the creator but any pushback by people who aren't hebephiles is on them to explain. This is a whole other can of worms and the fact that you have time to try presenting it while skipping along the yellowbrick road is honestly very impressive. Tell Dorothy I said "what's up".
It actually is harmless so go nuts
They're not allowed to define turning into an anime troony as a bad thing
What is the most sexualized non-hentai JRPG? Considering playing Death end reQuest, but wanna know if there's something else I should try.
Really? No one with lewd JRPG suggestions?
Dungeon Travelers 2
Looks playable on PSP emulator, western released censored?
Really? I've only played the first Neptunia game and it wasn't that lewd.
Sounds like I might as well stick to H-Games?
>Death end reQuest
Not that? Even neptunia is more sexualized, anon.
Most of the really sexy ones are by indie studios.
Anon these threads are pointless. You're preaching to the choir. Post it on Reddit if you want to change anyone's mind. Nobody here thinks sexualization is harmless.
>Spread the word.
I'm sure the disease really cares about science, facts, stats and reality.
>the purpose of the article
Undermining the innocence of children, encouraging degeneracy in society, normalization of p*dophilia.
>what Ganker thinks the article is
OMG YAAAAAAAS I CAN LOOK AT ANIME BOOBIES WITHOUT FEELING GUILTY ABOUT IT BASED BASED BASED BASED
I've never seen Ganker miss the point so hard. Stop shilling this garbage degeneracy.
Cope and seethe /misc/troony, cope and seethe
See
I'd be upset if you're a troony. You and braindead coomers should just neck youselves if you are one.
Troons are the only ones celebrating this article because it encourages grooming
There are based ones that hated both the braindead coomers and the troons. Basically hating any degeneracy.
>Undermining the innocence of children, encouraging degeneracy in society, normalization of p*dophilia.
Completely harmless.
Just remember not to swing too far to the other way when this SJW shit dies down. I hope to god this serves as a lesson for people to not be such goddamn pussies. I don't care if it's from the puritan left or right, I just want to jack off and play video games.
Harmless.
This article is borderline satanic. They exposed children to a bunch of pornographic images and then arbitrarily drew the line for "harm". This is actually disgusting, we need to keep our kids away from these """psychology""" israelites
Totally fine.
why do lefties always have a stash of child porn that they're ready to post on Ganker whenever they get upset? it's uncanny
>2D
>child porn
yes
Yes good goy, the ~~*science*~~ says children being exposed to sexually pornographic material is ~~*harmless*~~. In fact, new ~~*findings*~~ say that kids are able to consent as well! Just trust the ~~*science*~~.
Everyone in this thread is a useful idiot who is propelling the slippery slope.
God I hate /misc/
literally every single "child" on earth watches porn and banning boobs from video games wont change anything.
Two wrongs don't make a right. Porn should be banned. Full stop. It produces weak men and useless sheep who are constantly sedated by frying their dopamine receptors.
nah
Banning porn is the same as banning alcohol, everyone will still do it illegally or find ways to go around the issue.
This is Poi, character from south korean gacha, Lost Origin, where porn is banned, her design is par for the course with the rest of the characters there, showing a nice areola, but guess what, it's not porn. People will find a way.
>Obui
I knew those proportions were familiar
>obui
More like omoi, m i rite fellow weebs, hyuk hyuk
This is fricking disgusting. have a nice day disgusting troon coomer
yeah goy, cover your woman and make her black transexual, the ((society)) will be better with you being more open minded to that, showing good and healthty women is bad for ((society)) we need to cover them and make them ashame of their body.
>thinks an attractive video game character with more than 1cm of exposed cleavage is identical to hardcore pornography
Can't make this stuff up
Read the article. Their methodology was much more than just "one inch of cleavage"
Maybe later. Why don't you point out where they used hardcore pornography?
If you won't read the source then there's no point in engaging with you dishonest child groomers.
I accept your concession
Kys gaslighting homosexual
>Spread the word.
I like sexualization even if it's "causing harm".
I don't care. Give me ass and breasts.
good thing it isn't causing harm then
But why do you care?
why do you care that people care? isn't it good for you, that you wont be seen as being a horrible person for jacking off to video games? strange that you'd choose to complain about this of all things
I'm just worried about your self esteem. In my mind, if you care enough about this to "spread the word" like a religious missionary, it screams to me that you don't have the confidence to steelman the worst case scenario, even though it's a mild one. What kind of person spends time on this? On the other hand, if it really means that much to you, carry on.
why would you willingly make yourself look worse for no reason? "steelmanning the worst case scenario" makes no sense in this case since the argument has always been that sexualization is harmless, and whoops, it looks like research agrees
the lefty arguments on this issue have never made any sense, and you won't get to "argue" with them anyway, since they just ban people who disagree with them on any issue. facts won't change their mind.
I don't mean steelmanning it in an argument with a leftist, I mean justifying it in your own mind while taking the most damning critique as granted (even though you evidently don't have to). Did you really need this research to not feel bad about it? I didn't. Neither should anyone with self respect, hence my original question; why care?
>why care?
Because there are people out there who hate the concept of artistic freedom with a seething fury.
no, nobody cares about artist just homosexuals try to censor shit, artists are moronic and proud of their shit, even if is the most utterly fricking ugly down the hell homosexual thing.
one example is return to the monkey island creator
>knowledge and making leftist gays seethe
You know what, those are good reasons. Now I care too.
Not that anon, but I wouldn't care about myself enjoying it even if it did cause harm. I have no guilt over it. But I enjoy learning the truth of things nonetheless, and it's satisfying knowing that people trying to remove this thing I enjoy are wrong in their arguments against it. Hopefully making it less likely to be removed in the future too.
this
>isn't it good for you, that you wont be seen as being a horrible person for jacking off to video games?
It's not good for you to waste your self pleasure just to some temporary shit you've seen. You would've lost privilege to see if your purpose in life is to do that shit daily. Self pleasure is not always answer for boredom. If you have noting to do in life other than jacking off to any porn related, there's always a rope, ceiling and a chair. Besides, you're an horrible person to begin with, that's why you headed that route. Just in general, as every person that sinned as I'm also one of them but atleast try to regain some decency and self discipline. Anyways, no one cares about your worthless lives, as you and the troons probably had no purpose in life other than declaring you have porn addiction to the world. You both should just have a nice day.
You're wasting your time on Ganker right now, don't lecture anyone about having nothing to do in life.
If it caused me that much just for wasting your time? So be it. Besides, it's the perfect place to send a message. Ganker
>If you have noting to do in life other than jacking off to any porn related, there's always a rope, ceiling and a chair
now the question is why would you willingly chosse to have a nice day instead of simply jacking off? i guess this only makes sense in the mind of a /misc/tard
Your worthless in life, and there's a possible that there's an "afterlife" for you to be enjoying off that didn't exist in your present life. If you furiously set your mindset to be doing that shit daily that doesn't even contribute to society? I say you deserved to neck youself. It's that simple. But you're to pussy, good luck wasting your life.
so you could
1. do something that you enjoy
or
2. have a nice day
and picking the 2nd one somehow makes sense to you. i look forward to your inevitable murder suicide
He's the kind of guy who slaves 16 hour days in a wagey cagey and tells himself this "gives him meaning" because hes not "worthless"
This is not about having petty for yourself anymore, it's just direct advice to your life if it's that worthless to begin with.
MmmmmMMM!
Harmless, safe sexualization.
He has got nice glutes though.
I'd be much happier bringing in stricter regulations for the porn industry, because let's be honest, it is all vaguely criminal, and makes a lot of money exploiting the clueless and mentally immature. I actually do think that's a bad thing.
Video games ain't real. Who gives a shit?
>Here, read my blog that confirms my bias. Someone said it, therefore I am right and everyone must believe.
Ok.
And yes, it works both ways andnit's not okay when anybody does it. Before you get funny ideas of whataboutisming me.
do people read only article titles now?
here's the research paper's abstract:
>Whether video games with sexualized content do or do not relate to mental health and body image problems in players, and/or sexualization and hostility toward women, is an issue of broad public interest. However, evidence from empirical studies has generally been mixed. To examine this issue, we explored the degree to which sexualization in games was related to both well-being/body dissatisfaction and sexism/misogyny among players in two separate meta-analyses. Results revealed that sexualization in games was neither related to well-being/body dissatisfaction (r = 0.082, k = 10, n = 2,010, p = .066) nor sexism/misogyny (r = 0.040, k = 15, n = 15,938, p = .070). Better designed studies, and those that showed less evidence for researcher expectancy effects (for sexism/misogyny outcomes), tended to find less evidence for effects. As appears commonly in other realms of media effects, the evidence is weak that sexualized games influence player attitudes and behavior.
>As appears commonly in other realms of media effects, the evidence is weak that sexualized games influence player attitudes and behavior.
I agree with their conclusion, but this research is clearly walking in with heavy bias. So much so, that they can't even keep it out of their abstract
Did you actually read the paper, or just the abstract? I linked the full paper here
>As appears commonly in other realms of media effects, the evidence is weak that sexualized games influence player attitudes and behavior.
That's not bias if it's true (which it seems to be).
sweet, free paper
>n = 18
wtf, they just researched other people's papers and then they only found 18 papers to arrive at their conclusion?
How many notable papers on this do you think there are? And yeah, it's a meta-analysis/survey paper, those are valuable.
>"Hey guys, these 18 papers said that video games aren't misogynistic, so we're writing a 19th paper that repeats that".
Junk science.
Yes resetera is dumb, but this psypost article isn't saying anything either.
>isn't saying anything either
Nah, it's saying exactly what needs to be said.
If you don't have any meta-analysis and never evaluate the overall state of a research topic, it never gets examined properly. Junk science my ass.
Lmao when this study came out a bunch of redditors were saying that "well even if it doesnt cause harm, its still misogynistic!".
Oh please, meta-analysis is for lazy people because that don't want to do original research.
You know what they should have done?
>"Hey, these 18 articles say that video games aren't misogynistic. Let's do our own study that reaffirms or disproves this finding."
See the difference? This way, their 19th article contributes to the overall global knowledge on this subject rather than just attempts to copy/paste the 18 articles' work.
Where?
>but this research is clearly walking in with heavy bias.
Oh you mean like every "social science" study?
I've seen a lot of people use themselves as an example for why oversexualisation and porn aren't bad
I use them as an example for why oversexualisation and porn are bad. Look inward and try to imagine what could have been.
Stop watching porn, get a nice girlfriend and stop making your parents cry. If you are one of those that fell down the porn to troony pipeline, I suggest ending it now.
I never really liked or overindulged in porn, and I still have social problems, because they're rooted in low feelings of self-worth from an unhappy childhood, not porn. Funny how that works.
Lol, the absolute state of the braindead coomers. Reasonings and excuses, lmao even.
Equally harmless sexualization.
>realization just hit that the old nu-males have become the norm
>He still thinks it was about mental harm.
Yeah, it was about control. Controlling what men are allowed to be attracted to, what men are allowed to create. Except now the excuse that sexualization or objectification causes harm doesn't work anymore.
dude jerking off to anime breasts isn't counter-culture. denaturalizing the female form for coom and profit IS the culture. you're all such simp drones it's unreal
What makes you think I care about culture, or counter-culture? Isn't that just another attempt to shame somebody into doing what YOU want, what YOU consider to be the right thing to do? Like I said, it's about controlling men, and you demonstrate this with a case in point.
actual men are too busy spending time with actual women to give a frick about asiatic coomdolls, touch grass
>actual men are too busy spending time with actual women
Sounds gay
And that's a good thing. Why would they give a frick what I do? They're perfectly fine with me doing what I want. They're not feminists.
because your shit coomer golem taste is adversely affecting the quality of the medium you fricking schlemiel
That's not up to you to decide. You have no control over what we like. Deal with it.
it is up for me to decide when your collective shit taste dictates the future of the medium.
How about making your own games instead? Or supporting people who make games you like? Do something constructive instead of trying to shame other people out of doing the things they enjoy.
And what if I don't do that? Are you just going to keep crying on a mogolian finger painting website instead of doing literally any else with your team, per your own argument?
I'm not like you. I'm telling you coping strategies when you can't control what other peope do. You're perfectly free not to listen.
Your answer was "yes, I will" btw, Literally a cry post, I'm not even the guy you're talking to. I'm just pointing out you're a hypocrite.
ok
Again the real men are too busy fricking women.
>actual women
For your sake, I hope your life insurance policy isn't worth much...
>actual men are too busy spending time with actual women
every statistic shows that the vast majority of people are dissatisfied in their relationships. maybe they should spend more time cooming to anime vampires or whatever the frick you're talking about
coom golem cope.
sexuality is a cosmic force, and you collaborate with the corruption of this medium as an artform every time you think blasting ropes to anime breasts makes you rosa parks
Well, we're not gonna stop. I've given you tips how to get something YOU enjoy out of the situation, but I don't actually give a crap if you get it. You're on your own.
you sound like a genuine schizo
>sexuality is a cosmic force
The facts and logic homosexuals had one job and yet you morons still walk this earth.
shitwit poopsocker
>touch grass
how about going outside instead of repeating twitter memes, Black person
>Right thing to do
Yeah, for mentally ill homosexuals that is impossible to cure. Stop acting it's the right thing to do. No one in the right god damn mind would think so. Afterall this time, you just want validation for you "Rightfully think" doings? Isn't that what LGBThomosexuals do? Thinking that they do is right regardless of harming anyome? This logic is what you both homosexuals will righfully be gasligthed in chamber.
Learn english and try again. I genuinely have no clue what you're trying to say. That it's necessary for you to tell others what to do with their lives or something maybe?
>denaturalizing the female form
what did he mean by this
look up supernormal stimuli
oh, you're just mad that fiction exaggerates and embellishes things. why limit yourself to coomer shit then, all fiction is designed that way. do you think kill bill is full of realistic fight scenes or something?
>triple d slamcow breasts are the same as a poet exaggerating the affect of a sunrise bro
shut up moron, the adults are talking
they literally are the same thing and you have no counterargument
a poet exaggerating for artistic affect is not an example of a supernormal stimulus you utter fricking dweeb lol
what's the fundamental difference between the two things?
one is ennobling, the other debasing.
What criteria do you use to judge which is debasing and which is ennobling?
my own
>mankind must use a morons criteria to judge that which is noble
so its fricking worthless then good to know
his ass
the only reason you consider it "debasing" is because you've been conditioned to view sex as inherently immoral. it's funny because my initial argument referred to fight scenes in kill bill (or any other movie), which people like you referred to as "debasing" 20 years ago
i view the debasement and hypernormalization of sex through images immoral. you're fricking moronic and I'm smarter and more well read than you. go outside
you have a small dick + are a virgin. you lost
you should censor and destroy this statue then you know for good of the human race
a naturalistic representation of a woman isn't even in the same chiliocosm as your weebshit lmao
>naturalistic
keep goalpost moving you moronic shit
symbolic representations of deities have nothing to do with the subject of this thread lmfao. are you one of those "marvel is america's illiad" memeshitters?
yeah you are trying to hard with the b8
But all girls are goddesses.
Its art you backpedaling moron youre the moron moving those goal posts to goddesses you uncultured swine
the mere fact you say this proves your ignorance, on the matter, also your using chiliocosm incorrectly.
see
a literal non issue if you aren't a mouth breather that can't use your brain to separate fiction from reality. we aren't birds and reptiles.
>im immune to having my perception of the world subtly conditioned by the media i consume
lol. lmao, even. as the kids say these days
don't underestimate yourself anon, you have more control over yourself than a lot of people want you to believe.
literally the "violence in video games causes real world violence" argument
oh wait the paper in the OP proves you wrong lmao
yes, sexualization in media and pornography does cause real world sexualization. there's plenty of israelite studies on it. go outside
no there aren't. every single study in recent years has debunked that argument. no link between sexual violence and pornography has ever been established.
>bro there's no mass pornification of human bodies and relationships happening, stop noticing things
lol
nice moving the goalpost, first it was "studies", now you backpedal and just point to your own personal bias which as we all know is meaningless because you already believe "sex is evil" from the get go, which will affect how you observe the world around you
>no mass pornification of human bodies and relationships happening
>implying porn is a cause not symptom
I think he means that sexy girls in games aren't like real girls, and that's a bad thing. Who cares if it's natural or not? Nobody wants games with realistic people. They're best when they're larger than life.
The age of consent should be raised to 25.
All porn must be banned
Possession of porn should be a punishable offense by 5 years in prison.
why stop at porn? anyone who has sex outside of marriage (in a heterosexual relationship) should be sent to prison
People now just attach Chad images to any dumb thought they have, huh
Nevermind, obviously.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/322530755_Analysis_and_Qualitative_Effects_of_Large_Breasts_on_Aerodynamic_Performance_and_Wake_of_a_Miss_Kobayashi's_Dragon_Maid_Character
sexualization is good
-_- you mean to tell me millenial-zers and gen-zers alike not only refuse to murder, assault, knock at the door of these journalists to make them sorry they ever posted such disgusting made-up stories, but the generation of today actually fall for these lies and read it like their life depends on it?
Is everyone mentally moronic?
At what point did journalist become so arrogant that they're not scared of the bullshit they write online?
I love how coomers thought they could rally Ganker into agreeing with their trash psychology paper, but instead got people calling out their degeneracy. I'm proud of you Ganker
Most of Ganker agrees with allowing sexy women in games, sorry /misc/. And the paper isn't trashy just because you disagree with its conclusions.
psychology is a pseudo-science
I hope you have a peer-reviewed paper to back up your claim.
>what Ganker thinks will happen
sexuality is harmless, so we will stop censoring Japanese and anime games, also sexy girls will return to western games
>what will actually happen
see, sexuality is harmless! we won't put sexy girls back in though since that's outdated and politically correct and misogynist, instead we will insert 45 minute anal rimming sex scenes with morbidly obese black transvestites into vidya, it's not disgusting it's sex and sex is a part of life you incel. also all Japanese games will be even more censored because we can (#staymadweeb) and we will ban anime games because it's pedophilia to be attracted to females under 35 and they're probably funded by Russian and Chinese and white nationalists
we reading the same thread? there's not much more than one guy that can barely comprehend english that's been consistently trying to stir shit against the heckin coomerinos and failing.
moronera and /misc/ aren't "people"
And you're an alien deserve to be killed
is it aliens instead of israelites now?
Same thing
dial8
>this thread
Yep, the videogame-hating libs are mad again
>anons drooling at the mouth over fictitious women
what's your point
IT'S THE SAME SHIT AS THE VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES CAUSING VIOLENCE OUTRAGE
I've been telling this shit since the beginning. This might trigger /misc/gays but I consider myself to be a fricking progressive thinking person, and it was infuriating seeing this most conservative bullshit pushed by paranoid or virtue signaling morons as a "progressive" move. It was literally just embracing bawdshaming in fiction.
It SHOULDN'T matter how sexual a character is, because sexual appeal ISN'T a negative trait in the slightest
A female character feeling unrealistic to you because of fictional sexual appeal DOESN'T make you see real women as "objects" more, it literally just makes the character seem unrealistic to you, it literally just makes you realize that this is NOT a real person, and if your impression is that this character was designed for male appeal then that will only make you realize that men like sex appeal.
And finally, realism is NOT an objective value. Different people can enjoy and immerse themselves into different forms of fiction. Just because your normie ass might dislike anything that isn't 99% grounded in reality that doesn't mean others's can't fully appreciate very wildly fictional stories and characters without only being able to think how "unrealistic" they are
Reddit post
t. triggered /misc/shit
Sorry no one cares about your Reddit essay. Maybe you should scream about your boogeyman some more.
did I hit a nerve?
you just know that you wouldn't have any problem with my post if I didn't mention your beloved /misc/gays in it
stop believing that your shit is some board culture just because you became a widespread pest on this board lately
>/misc/ /misc/ /misc/
This is all you really wanted to talk about. You have no legitimate arguments or thoughts, you just want to cry about the boogeyman in your head.
lol
I literally wrote a bunch of "legitimate arguments and thoughs". It's literally you who decided to not read or write anything but break down at the first sight of seeing someone mention your circlejerk in a negative way
It was important to mention that this "war against sexual objectivication in fiction" is NOT a progressive movement, but a fricking conservative one, even if many people try to use it as a progressive virtue signaling, and even if many morons here think they have to side with radical far-rigghties against the "evil progressivism" to stop this censorship trend
>even if many morons here think they have to side with radical far-rigghties against the "evil progressivism" to stop this censorship trend
Not only that, the radical far-right wants censorship too (as seen in this thread).
I mean, I don't especially identify with the far-right either, but at the end of the day, they wont see me punished for being a white male, so I'm a little less annoyed by them.
Yeah, I can understand that, they're less of a nuisance in everyday life right now. Doesn't mean I have to like them when I do encounter them.
Depends if they start trying to arrest me for blasphemy or something. There's little about them that particularly enrages me in the current day. They tend to be easier to talk to, and nicer. David Duke is an outright gentleman compared to your basic b***h internet SJW.
Didn't read, you're still seething. Stay mad.
>progressive movement, but a fricking conservative one
But exactly a century ago, it was the same.
I'll take the liquor
>prostitutes using their bodies as bargaining chip to get what they want
the more things change
I dislike alcohol, and I'd accept a below average woman, but I'd rather take a drink if it will keep those ill tempered crazies away.
>and even if many morons here think they have to side with radical far-rigghties against the "evil progressivism" to stop this censorship trend
But you were the first one to call us far righties.
>I've been telling this shit since the beginning. This might trigger /misc/gays but I consider myself to be a fricking progressive thinking person, and it was infuriating seeing this most blablabla
>t. triggered /misc/shit
You're unhinged and need to get your head straight. You're not even making any sense anymore.
this is just another issue of self-insert gays ruining everything
So studies are based and redpilled now when it fits your narrative?
>implying it's even possible for sexualization to be harmful
I play coomer games and you can't stop me.
They said the same shit about porno mags and adult movies.
Frick the hypocritical moral crusaders who want to save the children here while gleefully encouraging the government to bomb children on the other side of the world.
>/misc/ /misc/ /misc/ /misc/ /misc/ /misc/ /misc/ /misc/
holy obsessed, neck yourselves coomers
just because it's harmless it doesn't mean that every game has to be coomer cringe
it makes it hard for me to take it seriously
Literally no one has ever said that.
>dude, Doom needs more waifus!
You people construct such bizarre strawmen.
>You people construct such bizarre strawmen.
It's all they can do.
Cacodemon has some interesting holes
This thread is moving far to fast for a productive discussion.
Sexualization is harmful because cooming makes you weak and lethargic. Coomers can't perform.
They don't owe you performance.
oh shit, are we talking about studies?
mm yeah
Hebephilia is not pedophilia. The same kinds of people who say that you're a pedo for being attracted to post pubescent teenage girls are the same radical feminists who scream at 30 or 40 year old guys for going after 20 something girls. Their end goal is to destroy the white race by making it a social crime for white guys to frick white girls until they are ugly, fat, and used up in their 30s and have to raise Tyrone's child. Meanwhile black and brown guys get prime white pussy in their teenage years because they're not buck broken like white guys are. "Sexualization" in video games is hated not because of sex, but because attractive teenage and twenty something girls are being sexualized. Not a single resetera or twitter troony complains when men or old hags or fat, ugly LGBTHIVs are "sexualized" because that's not a threat to their ideology. dicky access is a fundamental right as a male and these tyrants are taking it away from us.
he's not wrong
The Goddess of Thicc, Ryza. I kneel.
We are past bump limit.
Post more non-harmful vidya asexualization.
Nice self-avatargayging. It very looks like you.
Midwit tradlarper confirmed.
>"Yeah, objectification is bad. That's why I only have sex with personality and feelings."
partialism is a israeli trick to make men gay if you are attracted to anything but penis in vegana then I'm sorry but you're a homosexual
Let's just say that israelites made porn so big in media industry. Hitler was right all along.
We should've been doing this from the start.
It's time to renormalize sexualization.
Be as shameless as possible (online) about what you love, anons.
age of consent shouldn't exist, no one should be having sex outside of marriage anyways so having one just encourages degeneracy, all sex outside of marriage should be illegal
as for the age of marriage it should be 12, following the traditional English practice, but only for girls. For boys it should stay the same age it is now.
Fanservice and the sorts should only be for those who can handle it. Coomers cannot fall into this category by default.
Male power fantasy or female eyecandy?
I as a gay man am getting off to this, so it must still be bad for women.
Seeeeex.
Sexualized, but ultimately harmless.
look at tawnas belly
So ugly they're harming my eyes. Get better taste man.
>Oh oh. Coomer and troon thread
Was it truly necessary for a smith to be so underdressed?
Does it matter? It's harmless.
>the radical far-right
When is moronera going back?
Are you denying that a radical far-right exists? What's your point?
You sound like Hannity when you say shit like that. Grow the frick up.
Any argument that depends on the political left or right being meaningful terms should be immediately ignored. You can't split all opinions into two categories, and insist that everyone should hate the other side.
Good thing this is scientifically proven to be harmless.
>the SCIENCE is settled!!!!!!!
>all research is bad always
Nobody is claiming that. If you're using a study you need to support it's authenticity instead of just using it's results.
Nostalgia hit.
>Weak men trying validate theirselves that lusting over fictional shit is "right thing" to do other than contributing to this worthless society /thread
i can never make my dick erect hard
wtf I hate sexualization now.