Should games be balanced around the highest level of play?

Should games be balanced around the highest level of play?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    games should not be balanced

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      They absolutely should and only complete lead paint eating morons think otherwise

      >what goes through a moron's head when he hears "balance"
      >everything is exactly the same and everything is boring
      >what "balance" actually means
      >everything is viable and entertaining despite the differences

      If you're going to have one option blatantly better than every other, or multiple completely worthless options, they add nothing to the game because they will always/never be used. THAT is boring.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Too many words. A shame I'm not reading any of 'em

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Well he called you a moron so that's fitting.

          They absolutely should and only complete lead paint eating morons think otherwise

          >what goes through a moron's head when he hears "balance"
          >everything is exactly the same and everything is boring
          >what "balance" actually means
          >everything is viable and entertaining despite the differences

          If you're going to have one option blatantly better than every other, or multiple completely worthless options, they add nothing to the game because they will always/never be used. THAT is boring.

          In order words, making something balanced isn't the same as making it not powerful.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      In the past I would've called you an idiot but there's some truth to having a shitstorm of options and having fun with it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Which is why custom weapons servers are fun for all of an hour

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        And Rock Paper Scissors still gets played to this day.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Tf2
    >Highest level of gameplay
    That game is only good for casual play and troony LARPIing

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >arbitrarily restrictive ruleset based on nothing but autism
    >highest level of TF2 play
    cope

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    In tf2's case i don't think so, the game is casual haven and having items that allow different playstyles while not being broken or useless is the best way to balance it.

    I barely see people using the gru anymore and i am probably the only moron using the caber nowadays.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Until TF2 adds bunnyhopping it will always be trash. Sorry not sorry.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >ban half of the weapons in the game
    >trash weapons are now overpowered because they are situationally better than stock
    compgays are morons

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >nerf shit weapons
    why are the tf2 devs like this
    I want the old eviction notice back
    I want the old bison back

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      i want my fricking caber back so I can allahu akbar sc**ts going for meatshots
      fricking disgusting how many fun things were just deleted

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I dont necessarily hate all Youtube famous TF2 people, but god damn they're the most vocal minority of people who influence the changing of weapons. The whole: "It shouldn't be like this because it goes against the core value of the game." Is aggravating. Playing on Uncletopia with the same 6 maps of rotation with a popup for team balacing or a map change while you cant randomly crit an annoying market gardener soldier makes me happy I can play on a pub.

        Also the myth that only players with a million hours since launch play on servers like that is false. Some of the most brain dead ftpers I've seen fill up those places.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        the current caber is fricking gabrage now, you need to croutch to actually insta kill and it takes forever for it to come out.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >equalizer before split
      >old sandman
      >old quickie launcher
      >old panic attack

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Balance patches are for reddit.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Explain yourself right now

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It's typical reddit behavior to cry about a gun being used rather than to learn how to use it or play around it. Those homosexuals beg for every single dev to nerf their whole arsenals until they no longer die in a game.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Valve are brainlets and thought that if they balanced every weapon that they'd see more use in competitive, but that's a fool's errand because it's an FPS and everybody will use the same loadout every time. CS is AKs/M4s and AWPs. 6v6 is designed the way it is because that's the only way you get a decent competitive game. Highlander sucks from the getgo because there's no reason to get on mid until one Sniper kills the other. Valve should've just kept the items fun and let competitive players run their own servers/lists.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    No, and I'm glad games like Team Fortress 2 don't do this even if a certain very vocal minority around here believes in the competitive boogeyman that controls how valve works on the game.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Serious competitive gaming is extremely fricking gay and the trannoid autismos that partake in it should be completely ignored

      Deluded. Try to remember the reverted stickybomb nerf

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't reverted fully, stickies are worse now than they were pre-nerf and said nerf was straight up moronic just like 99% of their nerfs. Valve really shouldn't touch the game when they have no idea how it works at all.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >around the highest level of play?

    You mean like in csgo, in which maps and gameplay are mutilated around what autistic fricks with 10,000 hours each who instantly pixel snipe the milisecond they see each other?

    If so, frick no.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    GRU being nerfed due to competitive is basically the same reason why it got put in the game to begin with. I don't think people realise how badly heavy's design got fricked with to try and make him comp-viable.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >trying to make casual/party games competitive
    why though?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's fun

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Game is fun
    but not balanced
    people play

    game is balanced
    but not fun
    no one plays

    many such cases

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >10-20 people playing comp at any given time
    >Valve decides to balance the game around these people
    So dumb.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    considering that the compBlack folk are the reason why the game is currently the way it is, no.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Adaptive according to how well the player is doing
    >new game+ that remembers your tactics from previous playthrough(s) and attempts to counter them

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Problem is not with skill but different ruleset.
    That being said, nu-GRU is actually an improvement, because it is more versatile than "heavy at mid"

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    How about they work on making alt-tab not explode your house before balancing crap

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    frick no
    tf2 is a great example of what happens when you listen to the 0.1% of autistic morons who play in their shitty curated mode that plays completely different to the regular game
    their homosexualry caused every fun loadout to be fricked into the dirt for the most part, the caber and bison come to mind
    frick every """competitive""" player that infests vidya as a whole, i sincerely hope from the bottom of my heart that they all commit suicide in their lifetime to spare the rest of us from their autism

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    buff heavy

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Balance around high level play. You can't make skillshots do a million damage because morons can't hit them.

    Imagine if rockets were a one shot becuse shitty soldiers can't hit them. The game would suck.

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