should i just refund this? im not having very much fun. it feels closer to halo than doom.
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should i just refund this? im not having very much fun. it feels closer to halo than doom.
how the frick is this anything like halo
im kind of just walking up to enemies and shooting them, you have grenades like halo, the weapons are closer to halo mechanically than doom, you have an infinite source of health, enemies run from you instead of at you, movement is very slow, arena design doesnt even matter which makes maps really bland, theres lots of audio logs and cutscenes
its literally exactly like halo, i hate it
>enemies run from you instead of at you
you did not play past the first level
you also did not play halo more than 10 minutes if you think the weapons are anywhere similar
you are not obligated to play games, but i do recommend playing them a little longer before coming up with moronic conclusions. you might even enjoy them
>I'm just kind of walking up to enemies and shooting them
That's what you do in og Doom too and apparently you like that
>you have grenades like halo
Grenades are console bab moron design? CSGO is another game with console bab moron design then.
>You have infinite source of health
And you need to get in close and kill enemies to get health, while in Halo you just hide behind cover until it regens. It's nothing alike, in fact it encourages the complete opposite game style.
>enemies run from you instead of at you
They do both, but usually they run at you, this is just wrong.
>movement is slow
It's slower than sprinting in og Doom but at least just as fast as every other game you mentioned.
>arena design doesn't matter
If it doesn't matter in this game I don't see how you can think it matters in the other ones
>has audio logs and cutscenes
There's barely any cutscenes and you can ignore the audio logs if you don't like them
>That's what you do in og Doom too and apparently you like that
I'm just holding forward at my target and shooting at it in nudoom. You can't do the in actual doom, there are a billion ways it punishes you for that.
>Grenades are console bab moron design? CSGO is another game with console bab moron design then.
CSGO has utility grenades which serve an incredibly specific and cerebral purpose
>And you need to get in close and kill enemies to get health, while in Halo you just hide behind cover until it regens
That doesn't matter, both have infinite health which means there are no risks and getting hit doesn't matter. This is awful game design.
>There's barely any cutscenes and you can ignore the audio logs if you don't like them
The one and only time I died was when I walked past a couple of zombies and hit USE on a console, then control of my character got taken away for a whole 10 seconds while the zombies surrounded me as I was forced to listen to some shitty dialogue and watch the camera pan around, then when the cutscene ended I instantly died. Was so shitty and poorly thought out that I felt like I was playing a bethesda game, and then I realised I was!
post a video of you just holding forward and killing everything and getting infinite health in doom 2016 on ultra violence
I can't, if I play the game for another minute I cannot refund it.
>you can't just hold forward and shoot in actual doom, there are a billion ways it punishes you for that
Yes you can and it's incredibly easy
>Yes you can and it's incredibly easy
then why did you post a video of something incredibly difficult
I posted a video of a guy going through the entire game just by holding down forward and shooting. The difficult part of the speedrun is memorizing the entire route you need to take, the enemies in og doom are trivial unless you're playing a wad where someone stuck 2000 of them in a way too small area.
Ironically this is not even running forward, it's strafe running, which doom 2016 doesn't allow.
how does 2016 not allow strafe running? are you playing with a tank controls mod??
>how does 2016 not allow strafe running?
If you hit forward and strafe in 2016 you go slower. If you hit forward and strafe in doom 1 and 2 you go faster.
>I posted a video of a guy going through the entire game just by holding down forward and shooting.
He's moving through the game in diagonal lines and dynamically adjusting to enemies placements, because doom has assloads of RNG. You can't do any of that. He does map 2 (underhalls) in 41 seconds, which is not even a good time, and you cannot get close to that. Shouldn't be hard to learn how to speedrun a map thats less than a minute long right? Try it.
>If you hit forward and strafe in 2016 you go slower. If you hit forward and strafe in doom 1 and 2 you go faster
neither sound like a good thing
strafe running is pretty damn fun
i think its lame, there's no challenge or skill requirement for it, it just makes you walk in diagonal and not look at where you're going. a fun strafe mechanic is bunnyhopping, you actually have learn the timing and space it well to where you're going so you don't hit walls
>you actually have learn the timing and space it well to where you're going so you don't hit walls
yeah, thats how strafe running works. you have to learn the geometry of the level and if you bonk anything you lose momentum. its not as hard as bhopping, but it doesnt need to be because it can actually be used in regular level design and is
if you're posting a speedrun I will too yeah, it's a TAS of a slaughter map but I don't really care
>TAS
why do this when this guy has legit speedrun Sunder on uv max
because when it starts there's immediately a bunch of shit everywhere
Okuplok certainly looks obnoxious, but 10 billion fireballs is not necessarily the end all be all of doom challenge. Check out this movement.
looking obnoxious is exactly what I wanted
it doesn't have to actually be challenging, it just has to look challenging
here's another good one, nothing like this in nudoom
moron
Yes, just refund it. The level design doesn't get any better.
Then go play actual Halo instead. Start with CE.
you're gunna cry like a baby if I start shitting on halo, that games problems are endless
yeah but it at least Halo has soul unlike Bethesda Dooms
>play halo
>press the jump button
>bill gates cuts my controller cord
>can no longer control my character
>later
>bill gates mails me a new controller
>plug it in
>doesnt work, I can't move my character around. wtf?
>finally land on ground
>controller starts working again
moronic tranime poster
Movement is very slow. In Eternal you still have the same walk speed which is moronic, but at least they eventually give you a dash.
least moronic anime poster
iq issue (as in you have one)
It's because after Bungie fricked a lot of the devs left to work on this. I think the online mode is entirely Halo 3 veteran devs.
>look into this
>id lost half their staff due to mismanagement and outsourced chunks of doom's development to certain affinity, a company entirely of ex-bungie devs
holy frick its true, no wonder this game is so shitty
>should i just refund this? im not having very much fun.
Yes
>it feels closer to halo than doom.
Baffling statement, this plays nothing like Halo.
Its better than eternal
filtered
Incorrect other than story
I only have two missions left and zero motivation to finish this. So yeah refund it if you want.
May as well go for the refund.
Myself, I don't play it often after the first few playthroughs. It just doesn't grab me as much as older Dooms did.
>the "other" Dooms
Yeah, it fails to capture the speed and exhilaration of Doom 3. Everything you post is so vague I legit doubt you're playing this at all.
I like playing Doom 1 and Doom 2, and their fan wads, more than playing Doom 2016. I didn't think that needed clarification when I said "older Dooms".
I play Doom 3 more too, every October.
It doesn't really hit its stride until your first visit to hell.
You've never played Halo, or this for that matter. They play nothing alike.
"Its like Halo" is the rallying cry of fart huffing morons who only ever play boomer shooters and have never played another kind of shooter.
>"Its like Halo" is the rallying cry of fart huffing morons who only ever play boomer shooters and have never played another kind of shooter.
My favorite FPS, besides Doom, is CSGO and Stalker. I also like Quake, Serious Sam, and Painkiller. What FPS do you play?
My favorite FPS games are Quake 1, Half-Life (mostly 1 and the expansions over 2), FEAR 1, TF2, Halo 1-Reach, and Payday 2. My overall favorite game is System Shock 2.
So you're a shitter that likes casual games, got it.
>CSGO isn't the shitterest casual FPS in existence
lmao, at least jerk off 1.6 if you're going to go that route
1.6 is an extremely casual diaper game where you can pubstomp just by throwing grenades around.
t. someone who has spent 6k on weeb stickers and a shitty knife
you're trying way too hard in this thread, OP, just refund and accept you're moronic. You can still get help.
There is not a single sane person on earth who thinks 1.6 is harder than GO. This is such a moronic larp.
I played this game exactly to the maximum time alotted allowed for a refund, which is why i made this thread
. I played halo when it originally came out. This came absolute reeks of console bab moron design.
>you did not play past the first level
I'm on level 6
i like doom 2016 more than eternal because its the game where you don't have as many mobility options and there's always a bunch of demons right behind you, so you're always in panic mode, if demons are not running after you you're either playing on easy or there's something wrong with your game
if you want to compare this to any other game i'd compare it to serious sam, both are about putting you in arena after arena with a bunch of enemies. i don't see any similarities with halo other than both being on console
>console bab moron design
Such as?
see
it also has that shitty quake 2 remaster weapon wheel that slows the game down.
>if demons are not running after you you're either playing on easy
I'm playing on UV. I am on level 6 and the only enemy that has chased me so far was the hell knight. Apparently level 6 is approximately halfway through the game.
admit it, the only reason you dont like it is because you saw the weapon wheel and associated it with console games
you don't even need to use it if you're playing on pc, you can use numbers to change weapons
painkiller is the biggest meme fps ive ever seen, its completely braindead
>you don't even need to use it if you're playing on pc, you can use numbers to change weapons
I'm not using it. I gave you a big list of things I dislike about it, which you ignored because you are suffering from severe cognitive dissonance. Going from harder doom wads to this feels like I am just playing a game for little kids.
what is the big list of things you dislike?
also of course doom wads will be more challenging, they were made by autists who play doom all the time, comercial games won't be as difficult by themselves. but if you just want pure raw brutal difficulty you can play on that mode where you have to restart the game if you die
>what is the big list of things you dislike?
read the thread
>it also has that shitty quake 2 remaster weapon wheel that slows the game down.
Wait a second, are you playing on console?
No, I literally posted a screenshot of steam and I'm playing on kbm. Why does everyone that likes this game act like they only have 3 braincells to rub together?
It's been a couple years, so I literally didn't even remember there being a weapon wheel on the PC version.
There is and it has even has the abusable slowdown, not that's its necessary since the game is slow as molasses already.
You don’t need the weapon wheel you use the dpad to swap weapons without breaking the flow of the game.
skip to eternal
eternal literally raped dooms legacy frick millennials everything good genx made was literally destroyed by you cucks
Eternal is just exhausting
jesus christ this board is bad at vidya
90% of people on this board don't come here for actual vidya discussion so it's to be expected
I dont feel like bing bing wahooing and keeping track of 10 hotbar cooldowns in Doom
the only defence of eternal is uhmmmm must be a skill issue
what a joke of a game
feels nothing like Halo because Halo actually feels good
both games feel like you are controlling a dumb gorilla in power armor
>it feels closer to halo than doom
This is easily the most moronic thing I read in Ganker in a while and this place is full of legitimate imbeciles.
refund it and get Eternal.
Play quake 2.
I don't think I will be giving bethesda any more money and I already played the original a long time ago. It was not very good.
Did you know?
It’s a little know fact that every fps that isn’t og Doom or Quake 1 is actually just Halo reskinned.
>should i just refund this? im not having very much fun.
Yeah, that's how it works. You don't like it, you refund it. Not really sure what's the point of this post.
>Bethesda shill sweating profusely
Yeah, I just started playing Doom 1993 and honestly its way more fun than this game. If you've played the original and used the shotgun, you really realism how shit the Bethesda games are. These games are "fast" and the original doom is FAST. I know which one I prefer.
skill issue
I stopped playing this game after an hour becuase I could'nt tell the enemies apart from the environment enough to avoid any damage, I have perfect vision btw.
>I have perfect vision btw.
You clearly don't because that isn't an issue.
>it feels closer to halo than doom
well you're selling it for me then, I might finally check this out on gog
refund it and get Eternal with DLCs
I absolutely loved eternal but I haven’t bought the DLCs yet because I’m worried they won’t be as good
TAG1 is a masterpiece and TAG2 is disappointing, but if you go into TAG2 not expecting a masterpiece you'll still have fun.
Story takes a nose dive but the challenge is excellent and levels are pretty.
>enemies dont come at you
>I walk up to the enemies and shoot them
>OP posts this repeatedly
like a new strain of autism
Yes. Buy Homefront: The Revolution.
Yes, this game sucked ass. I quit playing after the moronic platforming section 8 hours in.
I've played countless hours of Halo, and beaten this Doom more than once. They aren't the same at all. If you don't like it, refund it, but I question your perception of anything.
if its not a generic console shooter (halo) then what is it like?
Painkiller
painkiller first level
doom first level
yeah i dont think so
Enter room kill everything repeat.
I also didn’t say it’s a one to one comparison just saying it’s more like painkiller than Halo of all fricking things.
Halo
2016
oh my fricking god they almost sync up
>posts two totally different games thinking he has an epic own
If this is still OP I think you're genuinely mentally deficient. You have yet to refute anyone's points in this thread and get caught up in autistic semantics. You don't even understand the games you puff up. Instead of downloading your next troony doom wad you should get yourself an appointment to get tested for autism.
halo's first level is literally the fricking same as nu dooms except just throwing grunts at you wasnt dumb enough, npcs have to help to
its literally just slowly walking into enemies and gunning them down. look it even has the same moron grenades that only exist to do aoe damage.
have you guys like never played a shooter before?
you would probably think chess and shoots&ladders are "just the fricking same" because they have pawns on a grid
Have you ever played a shooter that wasn't generic console slop?
I've beaten
>Doom I, II, plutonia, TNT, Brutal Doom: Hell on Earth Starter Pack (Ultra-Violence, quicksaving on level transition and major keys)
>Doom 2016 (Ultra-Violence)
>Doom Eternal (Ultra-Violence)
>Quake (Hard, quicksaving on level transition and major keys)
>Dusk
>Amid Evil (Hard, quicksaving on level transition and major keys)
>Half life 1, expansions, 2, episodes
>a bunch of half life mods like sven coop tetris and etropy : zero 2
>Prey 2017
>ULTRAKILL (p rank everything but P-2)
AND HALO AND DOOM 2016 ARE NOT SIMILAR
>hasn't played a single fps where you have to actually aim
>hasn't even played any hard doom wads
>You have to play Doom wads in order to be able to compare nu Doom and Halo gameplay
Can't tell if you're a troll or just that stupid
>be a massive shitter
>think your opinion on anything matters
name one fps where you have to "actually aim"
stalker
>first level.
Maybe play both games in their entirety before you start formulating opinions.
Btw quality b8
I played through half the game. In 2 hours. Any longer and I can't refund the game. This is only going to make me angrier.
>played half the game (almost certainly a lie but whatever)
>doesn't like it
>instead of just refunding like a normal person come to Ganker to act like a moron
>stop spreading negativity about my employer
>I played through half the game. In 2 hours.
Sounds like a skill issue any elite pc fps veteran should be able to speed run halo in 1hr while watching Hentai (it means pervert in Japanese) at the same time.
>Painkiller first level - enemies with no ranged attack slowly walk towards you as you effortlessly gun them down
Wow, how incredible. I can really see why someone would consider this peak FPS gameplay while nu Doom is console baby shit. And why are you so autistically hung up on grenades of all things?
I tried to play it twice on PS4 and it didn't feel right, stopped after the first area on both occasions. Once I tried it on my PC with a consistent 165FPS I fell in love.
it's almost like halo movement was modeled after doom wooo....
As was it's enemy design
Ganker will never admit that Doom and Halo are alike in many ways
>Homefront: The Revolution
every shooter is "modeled after doom", that doesn't make halo any less of the horribly disfigured down syndrome baby of the fps genre
>every shooter is "modeled after doom"
WRONG
MEIN LABEN
Doom has more verticality to it despite not being a 3d game
Total halo Black person when
the new doom games are modern shooters and take a lot of ques from halo for sure especially the multiplayer which is halo design to a t