>Silent Hill 2-like with a David Lynch, Inland Empire style plot is LE BAD because le black person or something even though the story goes out of its way to explain why that one thing is not a big deal
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>Silent Hill 2-like with a David Lynch, Inland Empire style plot is LE BAD because le black person or something even though the story goes out of i...
You kill shadows with a flashlight
Why is this a bad thing? Sorry, jackass, yeah let's turn it into a CoD style shooter with a half-assed battle royale mode and include a Nikki Minaj cameo Operator and for even more players let's add in some Fortnite style platforming and rotating microtransactions too. Frick you Black person. At least we get free DLC that doesn't disappear forever after 5 months time
Sorry shill, enjoy those blackrock bucks
if it meant the game getting vs not getting made, I'm ok with a few pozzed elements. I had a blast with Alan Wake 1, the DLCs and especially American Nightmare, so I'm just waiting for the steam release. if it's not out in the next few months, I'll just pirate it
Anon it's been on PC since day one.
I know, I just don't want my games scattered across multiple launchers
yeah, real shame it's not on pc yet
>Inland Empire style plot
You never watched Inland Empire
Yes I have. Tone might have been a better word. Plot works too though.
Were you paying attention at all? Lol. Sam Lake was trying so hard to be Lynch Jr with this game it can almost be seen as a flaw.
>Tone might have been a better word
You
Never
Watched
Inland
Empire
??? This game is littered with that shit and that alone is not even why I mentioned that movie.
I watched a CAM rip on release and I think he's right. both have a similar vibe
>Sam Lake was trying so hard to be Lynch
Didn't come across for me at all except on a superficial aestehtic level
Lynch is weird and genuinely disturbing (well in the beginning anyway) this guy is just lolrandom artsy.
I think to best understand Lynch you have to watch all 800 hours of the Twin Peaks revival. It’s just pure Lynch completely off the leash. Endless hours of insane, hilarious, ridiculous shit. Alan Wake is like babbys first lynch imposter. Remedy should just try to play at their own level with goofy noir shit but they’re getting too high on their own supply.
frick your diversity hack, frick your little dance show, frick your EGS exclusivity. You don't deserve being on stage and getting mainstream.
>with a David Lynch, Inland Empire style plot
>lynch
>plot
the plot in this game is pretty generic and really didn't feel like lynch at all
What other recent games have a plot structure like this
not buying Sweet Baby slop
pirate it then if you're even interested in this game to begin with. I'm not a shill. You're an insincere 4chud babby thoughever
>if you're even interested in this game
i was until i saw Black person as main protagonist
Ywnbaw thougheverbeit
I don't want to see Black folk, especially FBI glowie Black folk
>even though the story goes out of its way to explain why that one thing is not a big deal
Having her be Door's daughter doesn't explain their original choice of having him be a Black person in the first place. There is nothing in the story that necessitates Black folk and you could argue the story actually discourages it with the Viking lore. I might have believed the race choice was chosen completely innocently and without an agenda until I heard the "frick whitey" tantrum she has later on, and don't even start with the cope of "b-but it was her evil side saying it!". Its a fictional story and everything done is because
the creators wanted it that way, not some fictional evil entity.
Ignoring all DEI, while the game graphically is nice and has a good atmosphere and story, the gameplay itself is terrible. Having the flashlight be off center from your gun aim feels terrible. Almost no enemy variety...I think there's maybe 2-3 different enemies in the entire game, humans and wolves? While Alan's parts are fine, playing as the Black person (I honestly can't even remember her name) is extremely boring because there's so much empty space in the world and the surroundings are dull. Not having a fast travel, at least to the car itself, exacerbates the problem and makes it feel like they wanted to pad the game time out with travel time.
So while the "cinematic" parts of the game are good, the gameplay is so bad that it drags the whole thing down. Unfortunately you can apply this critique to most modern AAA games. Seems like all they care about is the wannabe movie part, not the game part.
Thanks for the serious response. I'm OP and I agree with most of what you have to say, although I don't flip out over any race issues which distract from more important shit.
It's worth mentioning that the first game had at least 1 line about Alan being a white male or some shit, and that was before SBI.
All the Overlap sections where the protagonist is walking through the woods while other scenery is superimposed on the scene is lifted wholesale from Twin Peaks The Return.
The director playing a major character who is central to the plot is also from Twin Peaks.
The whole "X character is Y character but really not that character at all" is what Lynch has been doing since the 90s and it's also front and center in this game.
Many, many other things. My homie, pay attention.
Despite what I said I don't think any of the DEI stuff detracted from the game in any meaningful way as the other gameplay related stuff I mentioned is way more impactful. At this point its so commonplace that I just roll my eyes and move on. The sad part is that the heavy DEI push is going to have the opposite effect that they purport to want from it. I think the actor they got for Door did a good job but because of knowledge of DEI, it makes me think less of the performance, like wondering whether he was actually the best actor or if its just because he was black. Even if he was the best actor, it just makes every time I see black person feel like its artificial or forced. Or put another way, before DEI, I never thought twice when I saw a minority in media, and now, all I can think about is their skin color.
>t. racist
or maybe he's black because the character introduced in quantum break 8 years ago was also black
I feel the same way.
It's really all a matter of recognizing when something is a problem, and asking yourself whether it's a problem which can be ignored or not.
In the case of a piece of media like AW2, it sucks that this type of shit must be discussed in the first place, because it's literally just ONE problem in a game which is otherwise perfectly fine. Nobody will ever be able to just let it go and move on like they should.
I agree with most of this except
>The surroundings are dull
If you think Washington forests suck, I really don't know what to tell you. To be fair, you could have actual Asperger's which I try not to judge people for if they legitimately have it. But if you don't: You don't have meaningful awareness of beauty.
>Having her be Door's daughter doesn't explain their original choice of having him be a Black person in the first place
he was already a Black person in quantum break though
Kys sbi troony
The 1st game was better in both gameplay and story.
I would have cared for a Alan Wake 2 many years ago, it came out too late, and if I even want to consider playing it now, I need a fricking 40 series card to even run it at 1440p. So that would be like what 600-800 Euro's, plus this game just to play it? No thanks. I've had my fill of Alan wake with the original game/American nightmare. I'm good.
>I would have cared for a Alan Wake 2 many years ago, it came out too late,
uhhhhh
>I need a fricking 40 series card to even run it at 1440p.
Ah so you're just one of those people with 8y old pc and try to justify why you dont even want to play modern video games you cant run.
>uhhhhh
Yes, reading, I know, it's difficult, you'll learn it one day.
>Ah so you're just one of those people with 8y old pc and try to justify why you dont even want to play modern video games you cant run.
Nice try, but no. I got a 3070. Which will only run near 60fps if I were to use DLSS, but frick that, because that's near the level of moronism such as using FXAA. Might as well play on a console if I wanted to use upscaling.
apparently it runs at 50fps on 1440p with 3070 without upscaling
Can't you just not use max settings
That shit is hardly ever worth it
That benchmark is from launch too. The game runs significantly better now. I have a 3060ti and can run it capped 60 @ 1440p just by turning a few things from max to high/med.
It does not, 50 fps in the forest area with DLSS quality on High graphics, removing DLSS on High the FPS plummets and the game goes over the 8GB Vram Cache, and starts hitching really bad. Anything higher and it's unplayable.
Okay well put dlss to balanced, you'll have vrr display anyway so slight fluctuations arent an issue
Anon, I would actually like to see the texture, not some blurry upscaling mess.
you bought a 3070 when 3080 was also being sold
I'm also living in a age, where DLSS is being used as a crutch by devs to release games with horrible rasterization performance, for visuals that don't look much better than what we've had in the last five years for what? Double the need of computing power? So some random foliage on the ground and a random can of soda outside of the scene can have 900000 tris and so the devs can skip out on caring for lods and culling? Like I said, I'm good, don't have much desire in the game anyways, and the game has nothing that I haven't played already, since I have played the originals? So what does that leave? The presentation which if it requires a 800 dollar card to get to just play that one vidya gayme, it's a hard pass.
aw2 is like top 3 best looking game that exist
NTA, and I agree with your points. However, I believe the game has fantastic writing and profoundly layered symbolism that the first hardly touched on. People keep saying it invokes Lynch, which I agree mostly just in style. In reality, Remedy is a studio that constantly pumps out games that lack in gameplay while being masterpieces of Hermetic allegory. And if anyone disagrees with what I said here, or say it has no backing I will not be bothered. I know they're just midwits who are too lazy to read a book.
You are right about DLSS, sort of, but you're directing it at the completely wrong game. AW2 is one of the most bleeding edge games out there visually, and it's not nearly as demanding on hardware as a lot of other titles that don't look half as good.
then turn settings down and stop being a little b***h? there are solutions to your problems
>a year later
>kino wake 2 still causes mass seething
I kneel
I really liked it. More than AW1 too, and that was one of my favorite games of all time. It's weird. Games have really fricking sucked the last few years, but some of my favorite games ever have all gotten sequels that surpassed the originals for me. Feels good mane.
Right?
Some games that came out lately were in franchises I never thought I would see again, we had a proper remake of Destroy All Humans, a sequel to Baldurs Gate, remake of System Shock and this
>system shock remake
Among this shithole of contrarians, zoomers, and morons, I know that you are my Black person
>a sequel to baldur's gate
It never received a sequel. Only leftist homosexuals who never had anything to do with the original games leeching off the IP with their pozzed westoid garbage.
Seriously, it should be illegal to make a "sequel", remake or any sort of followup to anything if you were never involved with the previous games.
leave with ye, election tourist
Back to resetera/reddit with ye, actual tourist.
nah he's right
No, I agree with him wholesale. I hate /misc/shit and all the contrived dialogue surrounding it, but my troony friend was shilling this game to me for months. As soon as I opened up the character creator I knew what this game was, but still had the good word from my friend and from some YouTube channels I trust saying "just ignore it, it's a non-issue, it's a great game". In reality the game is political propaganda fluffed with cringe Pagan literalism (I'm a Neo-Pythagorean. If you take pagan mythology from a non-abstract sense I instantly believe you're helplessly moronic). It's full of vague references to the old games, and has clunky gameplay that only a hyper-autistic homosexual who hangs around DnD stores would call "good" just because it's extensive and requires a cold, analytical personality to enjoy. The game is padded to the brim with nothing but vague political dialogue that harkens me back to when Steven Universe was on the air and the internet was first getting taken over by gigatrannies from Tumblr and the Pacific Southwest. Don't ever try to play like Baldur's Gate 3 is anything more than what I said here, because I genuinely wanted to like it and this is my observation being a mostly apoltical, fair person otherwise.
> In reality the game is political propaganda fluffed with cringe Pagan literalism
I'm already bored of your post, congratulations, you're the most autistic motherfricker in this thread and you don't even realize it
You didn't play the game did you
aw2 is extremely apolitical
Trying to find politics in it is more like trying to interpret the themes and imagery to find out what the creators find normal due to the environment they grew up in, and what kinda books they read that might inform their world view or interests and inferring politics from that.
You homosexual. That post was about Baldur's Gate 3. God damn, you really don't know how to read.
that post didnt mention bg3 and this is aw2 thread so
True
It's okay, anon. Most of us can't read.
>calling people plebs while sucking off a "cinematic" third person moviegame that got deepthroated by the entire industry and no one cared about it besides the critics & journos
Embarassing
No more of a moviegame than SH2. If you don't have a problem with that game, you shouldn't have one with this game.
>muh silent hill 2
It's amusing when you compare a game actually fondly remembered to something only journalists care about (because they're in bed with the studio who made it)
goalposts moved hard
>n-no, it's different w-when it's the game I like
roflmao
I know talking about blacks in OP gives you more replies but i'll still ask you to not do that even if a thread has to die faster.
alan wake really rips off of new nightmare
I love it how the black voice actress sucks at hiding her accent so fricking much she can't even say the character's name without it popping out. It's cute
Ok, I will. Hell, I haven't even considered buying anal woke.
Seriously, I don't get this sort of offensive marketing where you guys shit on your potential customers unless they buy your game. Does anyone actually fall for this shit?
these types of posts are mostly directed at people who pretend to be interested in certain games but really just want to whine, not people who don't care at all
I really enjoyed it.
But if I had some criticism, I'd say that tonally it's all over the place.
Sometimes it's goofy as frick and other times its trying to be really dark and serious.
Like the opening of the game is like this serious True Detective investigation where you're examining this grisly murder then about an hour in the supernatural is confirmed to be real, Nightingale kills like 4 cops and Thornton/Mulligan are just like, "Huh?" Like these people you've worked with your entire adult life just got massacred and you're acting like it's still fun and goofy.
>Inland Empire
>plot
Inland Empire did not have a plot. I'm not saying this is in a dismissive: it has no story because I don't understand it, type of way. Inland Empire did not have a completed script, according to Dern herself. They were working out of an outline of a story idea, constructing "whatever Lynch wanted that day" with him giving out dialogue for scenes that he had written the day before.
so is this ever coming to steam or not?
who cares besides adhd children
ADHD children are the ones using EGS for fortnite anon
It was entirely funded by Epic. It literally would not exist without their funding. I would be very, very surprised if it ever came to steam. Just torrent it, it has no DRM.
Published and funded by Epic so it's a big maybe.
It hasn't made its money back and it was a pretty expensive project so I'm thinking Epic will eventually do it just to recoup the cost.
But on the other hand, Tim often works against his best interest so who knows.
Maybe one day
>Silent Hill 2-like with a David Lynch, Inland Empire style plot
Did ChatGPT make this game or something?
does it have an ingame explanation? i thought it was just that the original actress didn't want to reprise her role so they recast it. it's not like her being white was integral to the plot or anything.
Saga is a new character, genius.
>genius
ugh yeah sorry you know every single detail of a video game so you're like really smart, the way you memorize pointless pop culture information and regurgitate it on a dime is so smart, like why do we even need google with someone so intelligent like you around lol!
put a shotgun in your mouth troony homosexual
No, dumbass. It should be extremely obvious to you if you played the first game.
it's SOOOO obvious because Alan Wake 1 was a massive success and everyone played it and it had such a huge cultural impact everyone knows every single thing about it, like Mario and Princess Beach lol!
not everyone knows every single thing about your stupid homosexual game, calm down
you made a comment about the game, got corrected, and started seething this badly?
https://twitter.com/SamLakeRMD/status/677615946241060864
Huh?
cool story brosky, still not playing thoughever
p shallow, funny that he's going to be in kojima game
Good for him.
I mean
AND MAMA GAVE ME A MAGIC CLICKER
WELL YES I THINK IT'S TRUE AND FAIR TO SAY
Sorry, I don't support games backed by government censorship organizations. I support free art.
Do these people think this is political activism
no wonder israelites have so easy time controlling the world, this is their opposition.
I think artists often try and delude themselves by saying that bootlicking the government and hiring organizations to censor their art is just "doing the right thing". The same thing happening in the 40s are happening today. Propaganda is surprisingly easy to swallow.
Nah it's bad because it's legit one of the most boring games ever made. Would work better as a youtube series
>Not a lake, an ocean.
>Not a loop, a spiral.
We waited 20 years for this garbage?
Now Max Payne is dead.
...
Winter is coming.
Does he know?
>Silent Hill TWO by David FREAKING Lynch
Imagine being forced to live your entire natural life as someone with such bland, normalhomosexual tastes.
Do you even know what you're trying to say? No, you don't.
Alan Wake is so freakin poggers bros it’s like Peter Lynch and Ronald McDonald had a baby with Down’s syndrome and it’s black.
>incoherent polcuck babble
>midwit feels superior because he wasn't triggered by le heckin Black personinos while consuming slop
embarrassing
the typical "human" is truly an upright pig
i can't even begin to imagine what it's like having such a mind (if there even is a mind)
>screencapped his own homosexual babby post where he pretends that knowing someone is heavily inspired by multiple sources is enough to dismiss their work instead of analyzing it as its own thing
Little babby thinks he's a knower, but he doesn't know shit! Reply to my post knower, I know you're still here. You know nothing and never will.
What goes through the mind of a moronic /misc/cuck who screencaps posts of games he'll never play, which means he'll never be able to confirm if any of it is true? Absolutely nothing. He was never concerned with veracity.
Was the dark presence behind this?
Yes
I'd get something behind it if you know what I mean I mean my penis
Release a physical copy, or make it significantly cheaper, Sam. I don't give a shit.
>or make it significantly cheaper
Digital games are worth $20 max. Physicals I will spend a little more on, because I can at least resell them if I want to, or give them to friends.
I'm not wavering on those rules.
Game looks cool. To bad though...
well good job incentivizing all publishers to stop selling physical copies
Literally how? I will pay twice as much for physical.
Because they first have to pay for the disc to be made
then they give 30% of that to the store hosting the game disc
Then the disc has to be shipped around
Then the player will give it to their friend so that friend doesnt pay for the game himself, then the game is sold for some strange and the publisher sees no money from that guy either
Fine. The digital copy costs 20 tho. I'm not buying it for more than that.
you have to account inflation, 20$ in 2000 would be 36$ in 2024
price to pay for race-swapping
expect us homosexual
Guys, the game is free.
When are they releasing it on PC?
honestly pissed off i even bothered playing it when it released, they updated it for 'more'(as in the complete game) months later after i already finished it, it had a bit more story and more explanations on things
I'm interested in the game but I'm waiting for all the dlc to be done and get it cheap to play in one go
you know you'll just get distracted by something else before dlc comes out and one thing leads to another and then you're dead
Possibly, I have my eye on it and I'm quiet patient. I rarely buy games on release and play them down the line usually. I suppose if the dlc sucks I'll forget it.
>jumpscares flashing screens is part of the main story and you can't take off
yes I will stay filtered, frick this!
You can "lower" them now
>only video of the face and no flashes
this is actually a god send!
It could be the greatest thing ever made or written I’m not playing it because of the Black person
I don't buy sbi affiliated games
It's... not le loop...
It's... It's... le spiral...
>its not a loop its a spiral
I didn't play the DLC so maybe they explained it but what does it even mean? That it is a loop but every loop it grows more powerful and/or expands further outward?
Time loops but since changes are made outside of regular time in dark place, there's bound to be something different eventually. You either spiral further down into the darkness, or you ascend from the spiral into the light.
Because everytime Alan dies in the dark place he loops back and forgets everything after a bit, he gets to ever so slightly change something before repeating everything again. And in NG+ Alan's ascension is complete after an unknown number of loops, and he finally breaks past the loop.
This is just gonna be the plot of Silent Hill 2 remake, mark my words.
Eileen shaving
I love Alan Wake 2 as much as the next gal but did it have to be so boring?
If you mean gameplay that's par the course for post Max Payne Remedy, solid story and atmosphere mediocre gameplay.
Nah it's much worse. It wants to be an RE-like but nothing you do matters.
Remedy’s issue in my eyes is poor enemy variety, they give players the toops but nothing to really push you and keep the tension up. Like control was better in that regard but still lacking.
There are more issues but more threatening enemies would go a long way.
Control was good but issues. Alan Wake 2 clearly has a lot of stuff but boring.
troony game
Plebs can't even run Alan Wake 2 let alone enjoy it
So is this game Black folkhit or not? I have a lot of fond memories of the first game, even had the book edition on 360.
But I don't cuck to dickchoppers or Black folk.
its an apolitical video game you can play for funzies