Skyrim is still the only good Bethesda game. What can't Bethesda make a good game anymore?
Skyrim is still the only good Bethesda game. What can't Bethesda make a good game anymore?
Skyrim is still the only good Bethesda game. What can't Bethesda make a good game anymore?
Never played it, is it worth playing it in VR for the first time?
I tried to get into it, but stopped. At this point I think I just can't do the setting of TES games considering Skyrim is the best it has to offer.
All that said, I'd think this would be a great game for VR.
Only if you're willing to use mods like VRIK, HIGGS, and PLANCK to make it actually feel like a good vr game. Then add stuff like higher res textures, ordinator stuff, dyndolod, etc as you like to tweak gameplay and graphics.
The opening breaks because of how script heavy it is in VR. But it's otherwise the most fun way to play the game and the only way to make the melee combat good. I'd say it's worth it.
Skyrim is Ubishit-tier goyslop made for literal morons
Morrowind is the only good Bethesda game and also the last canon Elder Scrolls
Morrowind is literal goyslop aimed at consolegays. Daggerfall is the last real Elder Scrolls
Daggerfall is Ultima Underworld for morons. Wayne Gretzky Hockey was their peak
Morrowind was made by veteran fantasy worldbuilders and people with a college education in world cultures while Daggerfall was made by some neckbeards basing it on their schlocky D&D campaign
> Game was made by people with worthless degrees
It very much shows.
Morrowind got so much wrong it is the only TES game of dubious canon now.
It is the reason the unreliable narrator has to be used as a crutch so often. The devs that worked on the game did no research on the setting.
Rolstongay, why are you so easy to spot no matter where you show up? Just frick off, you goddamn cretin. You're a pest.
Not an argument. Talk about video games not your boogyman.
>I've been found out
Every time. have a nice day autist.
Talk about video games. Crying about people disagreeing with you is not a good look.
Why don't you go post some more tumblr dunmer in a bunch of dying threads you queer.
Talk about video games. Whining about people who don't agree with you is a sign of weakness. Obsessing about them is a sign of mental illness.
What did Daggerfall do that Morrowind and other TES games didn't?
Suck.
nothing lol, it just has the most in-depth character creation but that's about it
It's the most RPG of any of the TES games. Every iteration of TES after Daggerfall has been a step toward "accessibility" (casualization). Like another anon said, Skyrim is just the one that was able to make people feel like they were playing a hardcore RPG game, when in reality it's a sanitized, watered down TES "RPG" for the masses. It was also the first time most of them learned about mods so they felt like super smart hackers as a bonus.
If by RPG you mean the closest to table top rulesets then that explains why it was such a failure.
>tablet top ruleset is bad
>Baldur's Gate 3 beats the shit out I'd every game this year, including The Elder Scrolls Space game
Got any of that proofs
> Steam numbers
So no proof then.
Fine. Every single awarding event with merit is giving their highest honor to BG3. There are articles of literal developers in the industry who had to warn people that the bar set by BG3 is not and cannot be the standard because it's too much. Just typing in Baldur's Gate 3 gets you almost universal praise and countless "BG3 is GOTY" videos. Metacritic has BG3, at a 96, beating BG2 which was always called the best CRPG ever made. It's on track to bearing TotK on everything except Nintendo centric websites for GOTY every single time they compete. Steam reviews are overwhelmingly positive across the board and people are still playing the game and talking about it.
Starfield got none of this. All that got are videos showing how big of a disappointment it is, barely cracked an 80 on Metacritic, nobody is playing the game anywhere online and nobody is talking about it.
> Nobody is talking about it.
You did... just now.
Out of all that, the only thing you could come back to was essentially "but you just replied to me, so you talked about it". You lost.
>So you proved me wrong with my own post.
Felt good too.
Are you actually using Sawyer crying about having to work hard as proof of BG3s greatness.
Sawyer is just a lazy frick who would rather shitpost online than make games.
>There are articles of literal developers in the industry who had to warn people that the bar set by BG3 is not and cannot be the standard because it's too much.
Which is hilarious because BG3 is rather limited in many areas which never get brought up by players too caught up playing a simplified version of the worst DnD edition and fricking their favorite Larian OC..
>Morrowind is the only good Bethesda game
Maybe 20 years ago but it has aged like milk.
When was the last time you played Morrowind?
>it has aged like milk.
i'm tired of this meme, Morrowind feels way better than Skyrim does and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't, ESPECIALLY the combat
Morrowind is truly timeless. It was mediocre when released and it is mediocre today.
Microsoft mandated pandering to the woke crowd.
There is no hope for Bethesda anymore.
Starfield is their best game though
Skyrim is outdated
>Starfield is their best game
Explain.
If you hate White people Starfield is your game.
>hates white people
>lives in a white country
>benefits from white gibs
>uses white created inventions
the eternal parasitic brown "person"
Can't trust anti-Starfield gays when they unironically praise Skyrim.
The frick are you on? Skyrim is an universally loved classic
>skyrim
>classic
>passgay
>Skyrim is an universally loved [ classic ]
who is going to tell him
They live in a different reality than everyone else.
In their world Morrowind is beloved and Skyrim is reviled.
Skyrim is a "universally loved classic" in the same way that Cowadoody is. It's only loved by non-gamer children and morons.
>It's only loved by non-gamer children and morons.
Bullshit. Even today Skyrim is called one of the best and most influential games ever made. Taking into account the multiple millions of sales they still make a decade later, Skyrim is easily their best game and their only actually good game. Nobody talks about any of their other games like they do with Skyrim.
>m-m-muh sales
LOL proving him right
What observable metric are you using?
> REEEEEE quit asking me to back up my arguments.
Just as I thought.
So you're saying a game has to sell like garbage in order for it to be overwhelmingly loved? That's an oxymoron considering a game that sells like shit wouldn't be played by enough people to even sniff universal acclaim.
No wonder old timers think Troika and BIS are great. They went breasts up like a proper RPG studio.
>Nobody talks about any of their other games like they do with Skyrim.
Right, because Skyrim's fanbase is normalgays and not people who actually play lots of games.
Anon it's 2023, you don't have to pretend to hate Skyrim to be cool anymore. It's a good game, mods make it better.
Name one mod that makes Skyrim better.
> Lists a bunch if minor tweaks and hi res textures
I rest my case
That one horror mod was cool
So good you can't remember the name I see.
Thanks for proving my point for me.
Vigilant.
Isn't that one that tweaks the perks?
Thanks for proving my point.
> No it overhauls the perk system.
By tweaking the existing system.
You don't need to keep proving me correct.
It's a quest mod
>thanks for proving my point
go back to plebbit homosexual
Do you really expect people to know a great deal about such a small part of the fanbase?
I'd expect them not to act as if they did
Why would people pretend to know a great deal about such a small part of the game?
That is why I asked for a mod that made the game better. Nobody has named one yet.
> They named many mods.
Not one that made Skyrim better.
I don't think you even understand how mods work. It's not one magical file that you put in the game folder that improves everything to everyone's liking. There are small QoL mods, there are huge, multiple GB mods that add an expansion's worth of content, and there's everything in-between, and they all complement each other. Skyrim would be played by 5 people today if it wasn't for mods, but mods make it one of the most enjoyable video game experiences we can hope for these days.
>inb4 muh one single mod
And you'll be the judge of whether it objectively improves the game? Well, here's one chance to prove you're arguing in good faith
SkyUI you silly frick.
Well at least you tried.
I get it, you're the main character who can never be wrong, ever.
You are half right.
If youre lazy use Wabbajack and toss on Wildlander
Otherwise Requiem (which wildlander builds upon) *depends on SkyUi and bugfix mods you should be using ajyways
I think that is a large reason why modding is such a niche part of the fanbase. Needing an app to sort out all the hoops you have to go throughto get them to play nice sets off warning signs.
Nowadays its really not that hard, Mod Organizer and especially Wabbajack handhold you completely.
I only recently found out about Wabbajack im reeling at how easy kids have it nowadays, back in my day we had to bash patches and run LOOT uphill both ways. Compatibility patches? Forget it, not back then we just had TESedit
The more you explain the worse it sounds.
Im saying its literally like, 3 steps nowadays, back in the day you had to spend all day on it.
Download wabbajack
Find a modpack you like the look of
Click download
And it has everything working and patched for you, then you click play.
>And it has everything working and patched for you, then you click play.
Things Bethesda should have done 12 years ago for 500
It is your hobby. You do the work.
It's a product by a very rich company; I should not have to fix it myself.
> They provided the tools to me for free. I am owed them insuring people can play my mod at all times.
Frick off you entitled piece of shit. I hope they charge for mod tools going forward.
>insuring
You're not half as clever as you think you are.
2/10, made me reply
>entitled
I expect a finished product.
Then go ahead and provide it. It is your hobby not Bethesda's.
It's their job, not mine.
Apparently they feel different about that. So get your ass to work.
No.
Maybe you're a boot-licking complacent little c**t, but I am not. Enjoy fixing your Bethesda slop for free.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
>Bethesda
Always broken.
It's their job. They do the work.
I feel you lads, hopefully with todd having hired trainwiz things will look up. That mans autism could power a country.
I agree, its better to choose your own modlist. Im trying out Wildlander because it happens to mostly use mods i was using anyways.
My single most necessary mod is Requiem and it's kind of a pain because you have to set up its special personal patcher (Reqtificator) that comes with it.
Relying on the taste of others modpacks defeats the purpose of modding. The juice just isn't worth the squeeze.
If there is a singular must have mod that is safe to download. After that you are just begging for problems.
>And it has everything working and patched for you, then you click play.
How games used to be when they were released. It's amazing to me how far standards have fallen.
legacy of the dragonborn
every single item now has a use and it incentives collection
Never heard of it. At least Fallout 4 had Sim Settlements. Skyrim had nothing as ambitious or impactful. Just a sea of mediocrity.
>needs a fresh save to work
Damn
Morrowloot
Anything that makes something more like Morrowind is the exact opposite of improvement.
Opinion discarded.
If that is the coping mechanism you are going with I hope it works out for you.
>in 20 years someone will say this about starfield
>companions are immortal and regenerate health after downed
>can beat the entire game by hiding behind a strong companion
what a load of BS
Then don't play that way.
> I don't but somebody else could be playing it wrong.
They are not playing it wrong. It is their game to enjoy as they see fit. Stop caring about how other people play games.
>this thread
Meh, I don't feel the need to prove myself as an alpha male gamer. I just like Skyrim.
copium overdose
Low key savage.
Embarrassing posts
If it's a samegay then it's embarrassing at face value and if it's not a samegay then it's embarrassing because it's two casual morons riding each other's dicks
After your stop in Copenhagen might I suggest a stop in Seethenhagen? Stop tying your selfworth to liking a video game and we will quit teasing you about it.
I actually laughed IRL
Reminder this is an 18+ website
You sound upset
Anon came into a Skyrim thread despite clearly not liking it and was shocked he is not in the majority.
We are not dealing with the best and brightest of Ganker.
>best and brightest of Ganker.
Imagine saying this unironically
You have severe autism so you probably don't realize how unintentionally hilarious that is
Talk about video games. Stop crying about people who disagree with you.
>watch a doco on Skyrim from a bunch of former Bethesda devs
>the topic of the ice skating backflipping flame atronach pops up
>practically a fluke that it even made into the game with that design simply because the lead animator wanted it in
Same with the stump based ant colonies and hordes of butterflies too. Just little things that ended up getting thrown in because why the frick not.
What skyrim alternatives are not purely combat-based?
Skyrim does only one thing right and its accessablity. Any moron and their demented grandma can grab this casual turd and play with it without ever having any trouble getting trough it.
Braindead proof trash heap with no value beyond entertaiing people who honestly think they finally found an "rpg" they dont struggle with.
starfield's alright. it just doesn't land anymore. it's a fine game. but it's the exact same one as fallout 4, and skyrim, etc. they've hit their creative ceiling. the last three games they put out are their maximum.
>Skyrim is still the only good Bethesda game
That doesn't say much
>Skyrim is still the only good Bethesda game.
>needs at least a dozen mods and patches to be bearable
I swear, that company can get away with anything. Look at the Fallout 76 trainwreck; after that, idiots were still queuing up for Starfield, and they'll do the same with TES6.
Fricking morons never learn.
skyrim is only good after you install an 80gb modpack
Skyrim is cool but it needs heavy modding to be good
>having to do all of that to kill a deathlord
Casters really need CC and kiting spells in this game.
Gotta respect you though for making a sexy lizard.
I always wanted to, but never made the effort as I just keep making waifus.
>Skyrim is great if you change it completely
yes, skyrim is good when you install so many mods it' no longer resembles a bethesdajank game
Can't see shit captain.
i mean yeah
I kid you not both of them look worse and I dont want to be a prick
at some point you gotta concede that devs arent complete hacks and environments, themes and systems are designed with limitations and vision for the end product in mind
you just cant slap cool new moves into a world that was crafted without them in mind
Tips on getting the paraglider mod to work?
what issue are you having? I just followed the instructions on the nexus page and it worked. There is also another mod called paraglider fix that fixes an issue where this dude doesn't fall, which is pretty important cause its how you get the paraglider
>third person troony shit turning the game into fart souls
YAWN
>No you don't understand, Morrowind has epic lore and a story and totally isn't the best just because I played it as a child
>I-ignore the gameplay being actual shit
Amazing game you have there. If 'plays' like fricking garry's mod
They became lazy:
F4: over reliance on building settlements
F76: No npcs
Starfield: over reliance on procgen, ignoring everything else
It's like they don't play their own games and realize they turn to shit quickly.
The only Bethesda made games I really like are Daggerfall and Starfield. I've never figured out why I get hours in their other games and just lose interest. I'd blame the "art thou the fairest dame of them all?" medieval/fantasy settings, but that doesn't explain why I like Daggerfall.
WHEN THE FRICK IS GLENMORIL GOING TO BE FINISHED
fallout 3 and 76 are good too
>west of whiterun
>giants, mammoths, streams
>pirate caves, demolished towers, farms and other buildin on the horizon
>your adventure begins
home
Always I tell myself "This time I'll finish everything in a single playthrough" but I have yet to do it even with my 850 hours. On my recent playthrough I managed to go up to Lv.49, which was my highest level, and even completing dragonborn for the first time but I can't continue. I have nothing to level up for my playstyle anymore and I kill everything in one hit on legendary. Considering the stuff I still have left to do that wouldn't be much fun. Is there no mod that makes leveling up slower?
>zoomers are old enough to have grown with Skyrim and think it's a good game
>likable enough game when you have limited experience
>the more genuinely good games you play the worse it becomes until vanilla is almost unplayably bad
are there any other games like this?
Fallout 4, Starfield, Fallout 3... oh
I don't actually feel it that much with Fallout 3. The writing and worldbuilding feels noticeably dumber and more hollow but the exploration is still fun in that game and the RPG progression and balance is serviceable, something that isn't really the case in most other Bethesda games with their infinite enemy health scaling and no level cap
its over
even on my most recent modded run a few years ago i realized i was only playing for the world and some favorite quests and stopped playing about 80 hours in yet again.
it's not a good game in a conventional sense, but it's a great playground to adventure and dick around in. i haven't come across anything like it except minecraft kek since it came out. it's complicated
Skyrim is only good when heavily modded with Requiem
Todd sold his soul it’s over
One name: Soule. Think about it. Every Bethesda game that Soule worked on (Oblivion, Morrowind, Skyrim)? Decent to great. Inon Zur (Fallout 3, Fallout 4, Starfield) ? All irredeemable shit.
I say this as someone who has hundreds of hours in every Elder Scrolls game, bordering on a thousand for each one because mods add so much content. I used to play Morrowind back on the original Xbox. I love all of these games, and I still visit them every year.
Skyrim is the best elder scrolls right now. Morrowind is super overrated. Tried getting my friend into it the other week, we played TES3MP running OpenMW. We were having fun doing quests, clearing dungeons, getting loot. I asked him what he thought of the game. "It's good, but it's pretty old. You can definitely tell with the combat system and the graphics. I really like the different biomes and how exotic it feels, not like Skyrim. But, I probably wouldn't play it by myself. This game has a learning curve."
Skyrim is easy for anyone to pick up. A literal grandma has a YouTube channel where she plays Skyrim. You can have fun in Skyrim, and usually see something you haven't before pretty easily. You don't have to pick a class, and you can switch your sign whenever. Instead of having to have a specialized character like the previous games, you can actually master all skills over the course of your play and enjoy everything with just one hero. Also, shouts are fun.
Oblivion is kind of the awkward middle child for me. It's good, but it lacks some of the depth of Morrowind by removing some weapons skills and spells, while also not having the cool features of Skyrim like being able to dismember people, transform into a monster, or ride a dragon. I love the Shivering Isles, and some of the guilds have pretty cool quests too. The Dark Brotherhood and Arena are my favorites, but the Fighters Guild and Thieves Guild is cool too.
I hope y'all homies are ready for the terror TES 3+3 is gonna be
bustin'
why terror
>starting the game inside a dwemer vault
>do you get to the sand district very often
>hammerfell belongs to the redguards!
After playing the games and realizing that only Daggerfall and Morrowind to a lesser extent are any good, TES VI will be, at most, a "try it on Gamepass" thing for me. For people who like TES games, I think itll be good though. Starfield is going to influence TES about as much as Fallout does, which is next to not at all where it's important.