So, how are you enjoying 8.3, world of warcraft players?
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Why does Blizzard pander to the Horde so much?
>has has two faction leaders go evil, one die, and one go straight up ditch
Yes the Horde get a lot more story than the Alliance
at least shit HAPPENS there
to keep the sunk cost fallacy whales subbed
>>has has two faction leaders go evil, one die, and one go straight up ditch
This is such a bullshit fricking arguement, I would rather all the Alliance faction leaders die if it means we get good races.
Lore is meaningless, don't even pretend Horde doesn't get all the best shit.
>redesign
>horde get nelf model skeleton, ally gets belf model skelleton
>kultiran and zandalari are new skeletons for players
>mechagnomes and vulpera are just basic gnome and goblin skeleton
>just reskinned tauren and dorf
You fricking moron paintmaster, not only low paint skills but IQ too
>Horde has actual conflict in its leadership
>Alliance has...
I almost feel sorry for alliancelets, hopefully Tyrande actually does something in Shadowlands and doesnt go back to normal after Anduin wienerslaps her a few times in a cutscene.
>Horde has acutal conflict
Now it's Alliance 2.0 lmao
the Horde is now the Red Alliance
>Horde all coming together in a circle
>Alliance all walking away from Anduin
I think after Shadowlands it'll be the Alliance going full moron instead of the Horde getting another Hitler in charge.
if I had to guess there will probably be a quest line in the expansion after shadowlands about the Night Elves (and maybe Void Elves) invading Quel'thalas.
>I think after Shadowlands it'll be the Alliance going full moron instead of the Horde getting another Hitler in charge.
Or blizzard would do their usual thing and just retcon it, like they always did with alliance
>Alliance loses a major city and just gets dumped in SW right after with no further cinematic
>Horde gets a cinematic about how Saurfang feels about it though
lul, its so blatant and its just one example of many. Why do people even keep playing this MMO, especially if you're Alliance. It is entirely designed around squeezing you for sub time nowadays, or microtransactions with shit like Allied races.
>alliance good guy
>horde bad
>why does blizz pander ree
Because Alliance players will unironically unsub if Alliance is ever not given everything they want.
Based Horde moron
Then why does Alliance not have High Elves or Night Elf Worgen and instead have fricking Mechangomes and fat humans?
>muh high elves
Everytime
have a nice day furgays, you shouldn't be playing Warcraft, you should be playing second life or some shit
They aren't even the actual mechagnomes that we've seen before. They're junk. The only Allied Race that Alliance got that was actually looked forward to before was Dark Irons.
Dark Irons best race.
>High Elves
Blow your fricking brain out
Doesn't look like that
>The Horde in general and the orcs in particular are victims of an increasing perception among players that they are evil or at least villainous. Blizzard themselves codified the idea of orcs and monstrous races not being evil in Warcraft III, instead showing them as unwitting pawns under the influence of behavior-altering magic from the true villains, and as cast-out underdogs in a world that hates them. As World of Warcraft's expansions went on however, orcs and the Horde increasingly antagonize the Alliance with little provocation or reprisal for it. This culminated in Warlords of Draenor, which showed that the orcs would have still become genocidal warmongers even with less manipulation required from demons, and Battle for Azeroth, which sees all of the Horde (and several previously honorable characters) jump headfirst into a war of extermination against the Alliance for no real reason. And when they do start to rebel against Sylvanas, it's because her growing paranoïa means that they now are at risk as well, instead of out of any moral reason. Thus they have begun to come off less like dark heroes unfairly persecuted for past crimes, and more like they are rightly being persecuted for crimes they keep committing. And when Sylvanas stops being Warchief, it is not out of any moral concerns, or fears that they were going too far, but because Sylvanas tells the Horde that they are worthless to her.
And worst thing, I can't even play as villian because blizzard forces me to side with cuckold Baine
everyone is horde
my sub ran out the day after the patch :~~*
BUY THE RAY, PAYPIGS
Jesus yet another store mount. They must really be hurting for money
Its Chinese New Years bro, gotta cater to China. Next year it will be The Ox
I looked at the character screen for a few minutes. When does the level squish go live? I might wait for that before trying to unlock the races. All I have right now is the highcow and nightborne.
sometime later in the year.
Vulperas are op
Why does Blizzard keep focusing on daily quests, rep grind and time gates? The game isn't fun with the focus on all this day to day shit.
>Why does Blizzard keep focusing on daily quests, rep grind and time gates
They don't though
You don't need to do any of this things to take part in endgame content
Only if you are bad
i started doing the intro questline and i was so fricking bored, decided that the mechagon meta achivement wasnt a good enough reason to stay subbed after all and cancelled for the first time in 3 expansions
(i was subbed during WoD cause i hadnt played since Wrath and had so much old content to do)
Anyone playing this new shit is the epitome of a basedboy
Chinese Zodiac:Year of the Rat
Time for Acti Blizzard to acknowledge their masters!
>ALLIED RACES RECEIVE THEIR OWN DK STARTING AREA AND YOU CAN PLAY IT RIGHT AT THE START OF THE PATCH IF YOU PREORDER SHADOWLANDS
>create dark iron dk
>hi
>vow loyalty
>bye
Thanks for this amazing experience
Also funny how Mechagnomes have the exact same faces as regular ones and even when they could potentially be the most diverse race visually due to their mechanical addons, they managed to be even less customizable than regular gnomes by having lesser hairstyles and colors and lesser faces
And by the looks of it Shadowlands is a dirty copy and paste from ff15 shadowbringers
It drives me mad guys
>Guild disintegrated because of how bad BfA was/is
>HOTS israeliteed out then killed
>Hearthstone still a sunk cost fallacy dumpster fire
>Starcraft abandoned
>WC3 being prostituted out with a hideous remake
>Overwatch doing what TF2 would call an update and making it a "sequel" to steal more money from players
I hate Blizzard more than I've ever hated a developer before, and I was a Mass Effect fan.
>Starcraft abandoned
False, Mengsk literally was released month ago
cute fluffy
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/suspensions-going-out-for-cache-abuse/413039/356
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
They've already withdrawn the bans dude
r8 my name choice
thats 1000$ worth of a nickname on ebay, unironicly
No it isn't
That's probably on a dead server and people barely even buy names on wow anyway
cutie
the frick is this
the face of someone who witnessed the rebirth of Christ
A model that hasn't been updated in six or seven expansions.
cute fox
The intro questline wasn't too bad, but there's nothing to do afterwards.
There's nothing worth exploring in the Assault areas like in Nazjatar, all there is is a brainless grind for 10000 coalescing visions to do another Horrific Visions run.
Allied Race DKs rivals Selfie Patch as the laziest thing they've ever done, with no new skins or haircolors and they even forgot the DK voice modulation.
There's also not really a point in leveling them or a Vulpera/Mechagnome now with the announced changes to leveling in 9.0.
The raid might be fun, but only for one run to see it, as there's no point at all in the gear treadmill grind cycle.
All in all, this patch feels like a bandaid filler patch since they gave up entirely on BfA and want to get to Shadowlands asap for another revenue boost. They already confirmed they have no 8.3.5 patch planned so that seems to be the case.
And I don't know how to feel about Shadowlands at all because while the progression changes sound promising, it seems weak on new features and 8.3 is pretty much the opposite of what they're promising.
I'll keep an eye out for the Beta but currently it really seems like Activision is going to slowly kill off WoW by putting it in maintenance mode.
I think one of the major red flags recently was when they said they couldn't thnk of any new classes when the whole community has been buzzing about tinkers.
I also get the feeling Sethrak were supposed to be added but shit fell through.
They have the Heart of Azeroth animation, their own racial mount AND cape and tabard geosets. Seems like a lot of wasted effort just for an npc race.
Nah, I don't think Sethrak were ever in the pipeline.
I think they were planning a final set of Allied Races which defintiely includes Lightforged Undead and/or Undead Night Elves though.
8.3 has a small quest with Calia that doesn't really go anywhere and doesn't get any closure, and with what we've been told about Shadowlands it doesn't seem like something that'll be covered in that expansion.
The evidence for Sethrak are more overwhelming than those other two.
Tinkers? That's already a profession. It would be bogus to introduce it as an additional class.
I was expecting Dark Rangers to fully exploit Sylvanas fanbase and fitting with the expac theme.
of course you did
9.0 still in year, so you can level your vulpera
>and want to get to Shadowlands asap for another revenue boost
I actually doubt that many people would resub for shadowlands
Why would you want to slog through the massive amount of time leveling takes right now when in 9.0 you can do it in 18-20 hours tops?
And given that they're cancelling 8.3.5, I don't see them delaying Shadowlands until after August.
>I don't see them delaying Shadowlands until after August
There no even alpha, while game fricking spends more than 8 months in beta
They showed an entire zone at Blizzcon, we have no idea if alpha has or hasn't started as alpha isn't public and under NDA.
I see no reason why we wouldn't have a 2 year mark late August/early September release.
>we have no idea if alpha has or hasn't started as alpha isn't public and under NDA.
>We knew when mop/wod/legion/bfa inhouse builds were released, but we don't know about shadowbringers
Nah
They aren't that stupid. A 9-12 month drought following a lackluster final major patch to BfA with not even a filler 8.3.5 patch around May would kill the game permanently.
>They aren't that stupid
>SoO drought
>ICC drought
>Hellfire citadel drought
>Galywix was removed because he's "too toxic"
It's just sad
Even with previos droughts, expansions still came at the 2 year mark.
BfA had a longer patch cycle (and it sucked) precifically to counteract the long drought after the final patch. If they still have a 12 month drought even after that, it kills the game.
I expect Shadowlands will be out sometime in november. Hope 8.3 isn't the only patch until then.
Ion already confirmed 8.3 is the fnal patch and all focus is on Shadowlands now.
Then Shadowlands better come out sometime in Summer at the latest. 8.3 isn't good enough to last the majority of a year.
At least they seem to realize replacing Sylvanas with an Alliance plant is a bridge too far and they're quietly dumping that storyline even they've been building it up the whole expansion.
>At least they seem to realize replacing Sylvanas with an Alliance plant is a bridge too far
Dude, Baine is the leader of horde...
Except there isn't a singular leader and regardless of him being an Alliance sympathizer he still started as Horde. No comparison to Calia.
>Except there isn't a singular leader
Vulpera quest line proves you wrong
Baines incompetence during the Vulpera recruitment quest proves that tauren were a fricking mistake and we should have personally helped Sylvanas execute. This dipshit cant even handle peons or fricking grapes.
>They aren't that stupid
Have you seen what a shitfest BFA has been?
You gonna wait till October-Nov and you 're gonna like it paypig! What are you gonna do, unsub? Ahahahahahaha yeah right..
>Features
>There's literally nothing of value being added except a lazy roguelike mode that every god damn game in existence is now inserting into their game
How do they keep the whales coming back after repeatedly fricking them over and over again? How are they still making money, what the frick
You sound like you play the game a lot and if Blizzard is managing to make even their loyal paying customers this jaded and bored with the game then I'm glad I dropped the game years ago.
So Nzoth is just going to die like that in the raid? Talk about anticlimactic.
made for BTC (big tauren wiener)
>Literally cuckold race who have exile punishment for crime of self defense
>big wiener'
I have my doubts
>no playable Sethrak
I don't give a fricking shit for this garbage game
Still made about the shitty heritage armor.
Pretty fitting for a shitty race
Don't forget that this shit was delayed because it wasn't ready with the race touch up.
Class Tier sets died for making other gear look better, and this is what they show for it.
I like the SL covenant sets at least. BfA's gear was mostly shit.
>Vulpera mean Allied races dont have be offshoots of main races
>Vulpera racials are also unique and interesting for more than just hitting the baddies with
>future Allied and Core races can be more out there and racially unique than ever before
Vulpera are a good thing for the future of races and racials.
Vulpera are just enhanced Goblin rigs, just like every Allied Race is based on an existing rig.
The only rigs that weren't duplicated were undead and worgen.
I was refering more to the Lore.
every other allied race is an offshoot of the main race lorewise.
>future of races and racials
>no sneks
>future of races
>giving a shit about human subraces when orcs are the biggest Black folk
Undeadchads keep winning
As long as they get an upright option like orcs did I'll make all my characters undead.
>blizzcon reveal of this
>they fricking zoomed in on a random asian to see his reaction
lmao
>Sandfury trolls
>Wildhammer dwarfs
>fleshy undead
>entire room cheers
>black and asian humans
>3 seconds of polite clapping
>dark iron and void elves get to be a race
>sandfury and fricking wildhammer aren't
LOOOL
Wildhammer, the most cucked dwarf race
Sandfury trolls are the Black folks of troll races.
theres nothing in WoW more cucked than High Elves.
>told for years that Blood Elves were High elves
>Allied race system is an opportunity for High Elves to finally be playable for the Alliance
>Void Elves instead, literally just sloppy second Horde Elves
I pity High Elf fans to be honest.
I'll admit I am excited.
Did all my shitty uldum and vale dailies already so now im enjoying hour long queues to level my mage.
Why is your mage dressed like a prostitute?
Have sex
only if you take responsibility
I'm going to laugh so hard when Blood Elves get blue eyes as a random customization option in 9.0.
I sincerely fricking hope so
The alliance helf gays will kill themselves in masses
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/auction-house-issues/411939
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Hordelets are now 90% blood elf females & furry furgays vulperas
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE HORDELETS gayS
Maybe if fricking other horde race weren't fricked, people would play as them
>Taurens literally were turned into cuckolds with selfdefense against quilboars and centaurs being a fricking crime in their society
>Orcs got shit on in mop and wod, and you couldn't even be a truly evil despite that
>trolls are literally who, and didn't even got race leader for 2 years after voljin was killed
>goblins were retconned to be nice guys who like gnomes, with everyone who not being nice or not liking gnomes is villian
No, the only reason people play the poofta races is because the poofta races exist and attract all the pooftas
Zandalari Trolls managed to find their place in regular Horde playerbase. It's possibly because they can be Paladins.
i legit cant believe people still play this legit dumpster fire of an MMO.
It's still the only mmo on the market
It's just as much of a non-MMO as any of the others on the market right now
>most successful MMO of all time
>dumpster fire
Wew lad
The patch is pretty lackluster but i've waited 2 years to play vulpera and it feels pretty surreal finally being able to
How are male voices?
Kiro's voice was pure kino, but I still remember how they fricked draenor male orcs with low effort voices
Male voices are one of the weakest aspects, they sound pitched up a little too much, as annoying as gnomes, maybe more so.
Damn, I really hoped for soothing voices
This
My prayers were answered and I can't help but play for it
Did Naxxramas and Malygos 25 yesterday with my bros, finished first place on Patchwerk!
GET WOKE __ _____
>Log in
>Clear map of AP
>Log out
Wake me up when Nyalotha opens.
am I the only one who really liked the intro questline and am looking forward to replaying it in its entirety on an alt?
Yes.
>Sit there while NPCs emote at each other for 10 minutes
>Complete an extremely easy scenario, that takes 30 minutes purely because you have to sit there while an NPC emotes for 25 minutes
>Sit there without engaging while NPCs emote at each other for another 10 minutes
>Do another extremely easy scenario that takes five times longer than it should because you have to wait for an NPC to finish emoting at you
>Go back to the chamber of the heart where you get to watch even more NPCs emote at each other for 10 minutes
This fricking CANCER quest design makes every single questline in modern WoW tedious. It's literally no different to what it would be like if Blizzard made it so you couldn't turn on instant quest text. I don't want to sit there passively watching NPCs emote at each other, it is absolute garbage design. If I wanted to be passive I'd watch TV (I don't even own a fricking TV anymore).
Warlock is shaping up to be the god spec, Rogue is decent.
Which spec? I'm assuming it's in PVE that you're talking about
For both. Destro is going to be a god spec for both PvP and PvE.
sorry you dont like lore and story. maybe a hackan slash like souls is more your speed?
I don't like lore and story when it's delivered in a half-assed, infodump way that literally involves standing there doing nothing for protracted periods of time. Particularly not when it's combined with extremely stilted dialogue and terrible voice acting. That isn't gameplay, that's exposition, and it's bad exposition.
You know what was interesting? All the Horde quests dealing with the Silithid in Vanilla. It's 90% told through gameplay, it starts at level 18 and ties directly into the AQ patches. And at no point do I ever get subjected to 10 minutes of bad voice acting with zero gameplay input.
>grindan low poly bugs in a bland desert was interesting.
>implication that vanilla had better story telling when it was literally 100% read the quest text with absolutely zero voice, movement, showing of exposition, or anything other than "hey the bads are here, kill 10 and collect 6 of their bones"
I think you need to recalibrate yourself laddy. Or maybe go back to classic and enjoy rehashing 15 year old shit. Especially enjoy gather 6 million cloth to get that "world first (again)" scarab lord lol.
How's warlock and rogue?
Rogue I know is still fine for PVP but no idea how they are in PVE, same with warlock but no idea on pvp either since the character trial thing won't let you do PVE content
>https://e621.net/post/show/1838022
>https://e621.net/post/show/1849673
>https://e621.net/post/show/1948834
>https://e621.net/post/show/2020621
>https://e621.net/post/show/2059971
Thoughts on this, fellow vulperabros?
the first one is the first thing I thought of when baine said no to them joining the horde
nutted really hard
the sound is well done on these, usually I mute sound but this is an exception
Why is it always gay?
I can hardly be bothered to give a shit, they lost me early and it's hard to get me reinvested after the initial loss
the concept is cool, this should've been the whole fricking expansion, but we had to have a dumb ass faction war so they could set up shadowlands
Is there a secret to enjoying unholy DKs? At 107 it feels like an awkward see-saw between dumping runes and dumping rune power with tacked-on pet management and some awkward GCD-locked cooldowns. Is there a magic number of substats to hit before it gets fun?
time travel back to one of the expansions back when blizzard still had half a clue?
Most specs are pretty reliant on Azerite traits to be fun. Unholy right now is entirely built around gaming Festermight stacks.
>Festermight
>Bursting a Festering Wound grants you 116 Strength for 20 sec, stacking. Stacking this effect does not extend its duration.
Maximising your Festermight usage is like 50% of the gameplay of Unholy right now, and you don't even have access to it until level 120. You can get truly stupid amounts of strength if you do it right, like 20k+ stacks.
I don't really care about numbers as much as I do how the class plays. Right now I'm like
>Apply festering wounds
>Pop a couple
>Uh oh I'm about to cap RP, better dump
>Cast a couple coils
>Spend a couple GCDs doing nothing because I'm out of RP and runes haven't come back yet.
It just doesn't feel like it flows. I can activate unholy frenzy for the haste to make it feel a little better for a short duration or I can make my ghoul a big ghoul for a few seconds. Is that it? Does it ever get better? Does the paradigm ever smooth out or make more sense?
Because you have no Haste. Every class feels like shit 100-120.
>vulpera
>whycantiholdallthisbackpackspace.jpg
Today I will remind them.
Patiently awaiting the WoW reboot where Garrosh doesn't get character assassinated
He was shit since bc
Ironically the only time he was tolerable is cata
garrosh was a mistake
>ENOUGH moment occurs in 8.3
>its your ally not an enemy boss
frick year
at lease we have classic
>1.12 AV
lmao whoops dead game
It's actually pre 1.12
Don't play classic, but I remember shit storm because people demanded 1.12 nostr like
>loot not dropping
>some items are so insanely unbalanced, one specific piece of loot can increase your DPS 10x at least
>people are killing Mythic bosses in 2 minutes if their guild had good luck with these unbalanced items
>music randomly stuttering in old zones
>achievements not working, personally can't unlock mechagnomes even having completed the achievement
>random dungeon freezes, locks you in place until you restart
>auction house deleting player gold, some have literally lost millions of gold
>visual bugs, random flickering all over the place
>literally unplayable on Mac's, hard crash every time (lmao who cares)
>super lag in open world
>disconnects
>disconnects
>world quests reappearing after completion meaning you can do them infinitely
>random automated bans for players who din do nuffin wrong
>weekly chests not being so weekly, some people have farmed hundreds with no punishment
>shitty furry race, yiff yiff
These are just SOME of the issues, let that sink in