So how does one actually get into shmups? Is it even worth it?

So how does one actually get into shmups? Is it even worth it?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >So how does one actually get into shmups?
    By playing the fricking games, moron.
    >Is it even worth it?
    As much as any other video game. Are you brain damaged?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. zero clears nonplayer

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >not a new IP
        Embarrassing attempt, child.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You don't even play the genre moron. Get the frick out of the thread moron

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Are you upset that you got called out for asking braindead questions? You are so fricking stupid it's a miracle that you don't need to be reminded not to forget to breathe.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              What compels a clueless moron to blurt out bullshit about a subject they know literally nothing about? have a nice day mouthbreathing midwit.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >about a subject they know literally nothing about
                >how does one actually get into shmups
                You are straight up too fricking stupid to be browsing the same board as me.
                I will ask again, are you brain damaged?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are legitimately autistic. Something about autistic people they just don't realize that they aren't actually the only human on Earth, and that not every single thing is personally directed at them.

                You don't understand the question because you have zero experience at shmups whatsoever. If you don't know the answer and have zero experience whatsoever, then just don't fricking respond and waste everyone's time blurting out random drivel, you fricking spastic moron. There are thousands of users browsing this board right now, the question is not directed at a clueless tard.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You get into games by playing them, it's that simple. You don't need a guide, you don't need people holding your fricking hand. It's not rocket science.
                The only autistic fricktard here is you and I'm starting to think that you should have a nice day.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You get into games by playing them, it's that simple. You don't need a guide, you don't need people holding your fricking hand. It's not rocket science.
                All of this is flat out wrong, which you would know if you actually had any experience you spastic fricking tard.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You like how a game looks? Play it. It's that simple. There is no reason to play fricking stepping stones to get your first 1CC in the game you actually want to play you fricking mouthbreather.
                Get good at the game you want to play. Better yet just have a nice day subhuman fricking troglodyte.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are too oblivious regarding the subject to even be aware of your own ignorance. Shmups are one of the most niche genres, with an extremely small active community and very little available resources. Vast majority of new players quit before even getting their first goal clear. It's like learning a new language as an adult, but much more difficult with much less available resources.

                Next time just don't speak on the subject if you are an utterly clueless moron. Stick to what you know best, like eating glue and licking windows

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >very little available resources
                You don't need resources to play a fricking video game you underage zoomer moron.
                You are the cancer killing video games you casual fricking Black person. I will hang you myself, give me an address.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yet again, refer to the previous post:

                You are too oblivious regarding the subject to even be aware of your own ignorance.

                You have zero clears and zero experience so you have zero authority to speak on the matter whatsoever.

                You are not the main character of the universe. You don't need to blurt out random drivel about subjects you have absolutely zero knowledge or experience with.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine some fricking moron too much of a b***hmade homosexual to start playing a video game without having their limp wristed frickboy hands held crying about others not having 1CCs.
                You keep dodging the question, are you brain damaged?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You call other casuals while having zero clears and speaking on subjects you have zero experience with.

                If you are not a troll, you are sub 80 IQ and on the spectrum, not going to waste any more time entertaining a moron.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bro, I'm so scared to play CS:GO what games should I start with?
                That's how fricking stupid you sound you imbecile.
                have a nice day. You don't belong here.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I haven't cleared a game since the 90s. What are you gonna do? Jerk off to Chibis seething to yourself? Go hard. Lube it up extra thicc, bro.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        have a nice day the general is unusable because of elitists like you
        frick youuuuuuuuuu
        Worst part is that you are not even actually elitist you just think its funny to be a c**t

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          ikr
          having clears is ableist against people who can barely 5cc

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          They're only doing this for shitposting purposes and don't really care about your clears, they get angry when they see someone trying to talk about something other than darts, trannies, and discord drama, it's just false gatekeeping.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >darts
            ???

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >he doesn't know the lore
              >he doesn't even know about the guy with the bikes and granny gf

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Some discord gays on /vg/ are obsessed with dart tournaments for some reason.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>>/vg/

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Last time someone showed his clears the butthurt homosexual asking for them kept claiming they were fakes, people like you are pests from /vg/ just here to ruin every shmups threads on Ganker.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yo I was in this thread too

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yo I was in this thread too

          I also was there
          He didn't post youtube links or anything tho if I recall

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            or even .inp files if he didn't want to leak his yt account

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              [...]
              I also was there
              He didn't post youtube links or anything tho if I recall

              Not sure if you guys talk about me, since I was the one who just had a normal discussion about R-type with someone and some autist jumped into the conversation for proof of a R-Type Leo clear, which I gave

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am that poster. You didn’t beat the games ONECC

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon's shmup guide
    1. Pick a shmup at random.
    2. Play it for a while
    3. Congrats you have played every shmup

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's fun game just download the game and play it don't forget to stay away from the "community" but let me guess you actually from the the "community" aren't you?

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try most of the notable companies, such as Konami, Capcom, Toaplan, Compile, offshoots of toaplan, offshoots of compile, etc.

    Credit feed on them and just play them to completion and see which one you like

    then try for a real clear

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >So how does one actually get into shmups?
    Simple, just do what I did. Go to your local convenience store with some quarters and play Raiden.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    The thread was not bumped, newbie moron. You should have a nice day along with the fricking monkey who needs a written guide how to dodge things coming at him.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tryhard weebs ruined shmups

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    by playing touhou games because you're a weeb then moving on to CAVE games because you're autistic then going back and playing raizing/treasure/toaplan/compile/taito/irem/konami/psikyo/success/etc. shmups and pretending that's where you started in the first place because you're a hipster

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're gonna end up sucking wieners and wearing pink socks while you try to 1CC bullet hell shooters.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    play ZeroRanger

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >So how does one actually get into shmups?
    you do a 10cc of your favorite shmup, say you cleared it, then stop playing and talk about everything else but the gameplay

    >Is it even worth it?
    not really

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    is there anything new the shmup genre hasnt done? its a well treaded genre with little mechanics to explore.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sine Mora shows how much of the genre has still been unexplored.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread is made by an attention prostitute who want to randomly gloat about the easiest games in the genre that he managed to 1cc

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Play them a lot as a kid, pretty fun when you get the upgrades. I always thought they were cool because I could never do the bosses but my dad would clear levels easily.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cuphead's plane levels is the only shmup I've ever played, gimme something on the same level of quality and difficulty

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >something on the same level of quality and difficulty
      ah, good luck.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm playing through EoSD right now (It's literally on my screen as we speak) and for some reason I can't shoot and move diagonally down+left all at the same time.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_rollover

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      R-Type Final 2 would be a good fit.

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have been playing games almost daily for years and shmups just destroy me each time i play them, i could only manage to finish few of them.
    I really like the genre, fun gameplay, great bosses, great settings and character designs, great music and soundtracks but it just i can never get good at it it seems.
    Only improvement i saw was playing Hellsinker. and barely killing stage 6 boss after many many times and after two weeks of not playing my skill is slowly going away.
    I am not complaining or wants the genre to get easier for me rather want to understand the mind of a good shmups player so i can learn.
    same with beat em ups and fighting games, i respect the players who are good at it.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Does it have to be a competition? Sounds to me you're winding yourself up too hard.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        may be but it's not a really a competition from my perspective, more like a shitter who wants to survive and learn.

        https://youtu.be/Mje1q66Zazo

        Shmup Junkie makes pretty good videos about the genre in general and gives good advice to improve your fundamentals.

        thank you.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shmup Junkie makes pretty good videos about the genre in general and gives good advice to improve your fundamentals.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        What's that game with the sub, where he was going on about learning your hitbox, and he had it stuffed right between two torpedos?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Looks like In The Hunt but I might be wrong on that one

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            That looks like it. Thanks, bro.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I am not complaining or wants the genre to get easier for me rather want to understand the mind of a good shmups player so i can learn.
      I find grinding a game and mastering it to just be fun, what might be stopping you is the first hurdle, like thinking that you might never be able to do it, that it's taking too long, etc
      Just have fun, enjoy yourself, play a lot, watch others play and copy what they do if you have a problem with a boss/level, and you'll get better and better as time goes on
      Use savestates to learn a level/boss/pattern

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Start with rtype and darius. Play actual shmups not those autistic bullet hells. Then move onto basic cave shit later like dodonpachi and mushihimesama and most importantly Play Mars Matrix.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, except playing mars matrix that shit is mad boring

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I want to try Gradius

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    play them, if they are fun you're into it, fricking moron.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Give into neetness, become shmup neet

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >/vg/ """humor"""
      >/vg/ """"""culture""""""

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    After having tried a few recently on Fightcade I've learned it's a secretly deep genre with incredibly awesome arcade games. So coming from fighting games, these are really fun to sink my teeth into. Great music and sweet graphics. Love them. Not good at any of them yet, but I can't settle on a single game to practice.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >people are fake nice and passive aggressive on discord
    >people are mentally ill and unhinged on Ganker
    I wish I could talk about video games in peace

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Post 1cc longplays 100% fullclears nohit runs

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly not really, the genre falls apart when you get deeper into it and start going for WRs. You realise how terribly designed the games are at every level.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Elaborate

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not him but most scoring system are just trashes and flawed
        One of the most common issues is how you get more points the longer a boss fight will last because you can farm on them for score
        Or when it's super easy to top the score to 999.999.999 because the devs had an oversight with how something worked
        Or how you have to manipulate "ranking", which is what calculate how hard the game should be, and there is no score multiplier depending on the rank that you are at, so doing bad stuff, like killing yourself etc, is encouraged to score high (and sometime mandatory), some games can't even be beaten past 1 loop if you don't downrank yourself
        Imo the best scoring games are Blue Revolver and Crimzon Clover, old shmups have too much flaws in their scoring system

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ok, but how does some Shmups having flawed scoring systems mean the genre as a whole is "terribly designed at every level"

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >dude how does a fundamental aspect of the genre being bad means the genre is bad
            Shmupgay intelligence

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Some Shmups having a flawed scoring system means the system is inherently bad and it makes the whole genre bad.

              Sorry, didn't realize I was talking to a baiting mongoloid, have a (You)

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >hurr durr some shmups
                It's every game in the genre. Ketsui, the highest rated shmup with scoring that is apparently so godlike also is massively flawed and literally was an afterthought by the devs

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                What's wrong with the scoring in Crimzon Clover?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Milking is shit design

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon... That's only something you do on the lower difficulty...

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anontachiparcemaricon milking and RNG is literally what seperates high scores, that and being an autistic moron hiding glitches/secrets for score.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Stop playing for score then

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>hurr durr some shmups

                Well yes, that's exactly what you said, and even provided examples of games you thought had a good scoring system. Try harder next time

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You're confusing my post with his posts

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, I don't know if he was implying that, but if he was I don't disagree with him
            I personally think that shmups is the genre with the most amount of quality games per game ratio, or at least average games, and there is a few dozen games that are just top tiers, I think it's just wrong to try to score in every shmup since most of them aren't well designed for that

            >dude how does a fundamental aspect of the genre being bad means the genre is bad
            Shmupgay intelligence

            It's not a fundamental aspect of the genre

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't agree with him*

              Play these:

              >Like Dreamer
              https://store.steampowered.com/app/1867740/Like_Dreamer/

              https://www.freem.ne.jp/brand/6400 (freeware games from the same dev)

              >Mecha Ritz
              https://store.steampowered.com/app/463070/Mecha_Ritz_Steel_Rondo/

              https://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/8513 (older free version of Mecha Ritz)

              >ZeroRanger
              https://store.steampowered.com/app/809020/ZeroRanger/

              >DRAINUS
              https://store.steampowered.com/app/1975360/DRAINUS/ (from the touhou luna nights dev, the game is very forgiving)

              >BLUE REVOLVER
              https://store.steampowered.com/app/439490/BLUE_REVOLVER/

              >Gunvein
              https://store.steampowered.com/app/2025840/Gunvein/

              >Crimzon Clover World EXplosion
              https://store.steampowered.com/app/1718160/Crimzon_Clover_World_EXplosion/

              You could also download MAME or ShmupArch and play games from Psikyo, CAVE, or Raizing.

              Good list, I highly recommend Blue Revolver and Crimzon Clover too!

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You sound like you smoke multiple black dicks for cash in seedy gay interracial piss movies.

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any recs for actually fun run n guns?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      booba?

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I keep trying to into shmups but I haven't found one that really grabs me.
    Border Down was pretty cool but having to do a different route every time I died was annoying
    Darius Gaiden was cool but then I read about its weird weapon system and how not upgrading is actually optimal, there's just a bunch of shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Play these:

      >Like Dreamer
      https://store.steampowered.com/app/1867740/Like_Dreamer/

      https://www.freem.ne.jp/brand/6400 (freeware games from the same dev)

      >Mecha Ritz
      https://store.steampowered.com/app/463070/Mecha_Ritz_Steel_Rondo/

      https://www.freem.ne.jp/win/game/8513 (older free version of Mecha Ritz)

      >ZeroRanger
      https://store.steampowered.com/app/809020/ZeroRanger/

      >DRAINUS
      https://store.steampowered.com/app/1975360/DRAINUS/ (from the touhou luna nights dev, the game is very forgiving)

      >BLUE REVOLVER
      https://store.steampowered.com/app/439490/BLUE_REVOLVER/

      >Gunvein
      https://store.steampowered.com/app/2025840/Gunvein/

      >Crimzon Clover World EXplosion
      https://store.steampowered.com/app/1718160/Crimzon_Clover_World_EXplosion/

      You could also download MAME or ShmupArch and play games from Psikyo, CAVE, or Raizing.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think Mark's last video tackles a pretty interesting topic, shmups definitely have a huge problem when it comes to character representation, some genres like FPS games don't suffer at all from this because you ARE the character and are fully immersed in his eyes but with shmups it's not easy to relate to your character when he's so small, unanimated, or just a ship.
    We need more horizontal shmups with big visible animated character sprites or games with a top down view like Pocky & Rocky where you can clearly see your character dashing and moving around and see their or the enemies' expressions, the genre would be far more appealing that way.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I couldn't comprehend how to play Pocky N Rocky with no aim lock, it felt too jank

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Figure it's worth asking here instead of a gamedev thread but what engine do most shmup devs use? I'm no dev myself, just always been curious how shit like bullet patterns are generated

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No because shmups are a stagnant genre. Play a turn-based RPG instead.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The simple fact is if the shmup companies don't care about their games, then why should I

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who gives a frick what companies think? The best Shmups in the past 15 years have all been made by indies

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Actually moronic.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're the one tying interest for the genre on a bunch of dead companies, my braindead anon.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            You are literally braindead if you don't understand the issue

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Dont make me repeat myself

              You're the one tying interest for the genre on a bunch of dead companies, my braindead anon.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Again, if the companies don't give a shit about their games then why should I?

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Redpill me on Slug

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i like the idea of shmups, but i suck at them. to clarify i like ones with spectacle whose stages look like they tell a story as you travel them.
    I think awhile back someone told me to relax my eyes to take in the whole screen as advice. generally i hyper fixate on either my ship or what i intend to kill causing me to neglect the enemy bullets or ships im steering into.

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've bought a couple shmups on steam. I'd recommend Blue revolver and gunvein. I didn't enjoy the gameplay and weird ass story of zero ranger, but it is very unique.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    bros I can never git gud at games like this is ADD or autism a prerequisite?

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