I dont download games on pc because i stopped playing on pc when they started pushing online verification shit. And even if i were to download a game, no way in frick would i spend actual money in doing so.
>Anyone who doesn't want to suck a corporate wiener and not pay money for a download.
Yeah those are called "pirateCHADS". Nice try snoy, but you're still a cuck for corporations.
morons like you still haven't figured out that it's over. You buy physical games, telling yourself that you're the bulwark against the barbarous corporations, but your physical games are unpatched, sometimes even just "keys" for full game downloads, and you still need to go online to access all sorts of features.
Nobody wants to play an unpatched offline copy of a game in 20 years.
You lost a long time ago.
Let me ask you, would you play an unpatched version of Skyrim today? I.E. the original day one release?
The answer (I'm going to answer for you) is no.
Your physical copies are worthless.
Why would I play skyrim when I can play anything else? Skyrim is worthless.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I knew this would be your next deflection, because you are unable to argue on the points. Replace Skyrim with anything else. You know how games have worked for at least 10 years now.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You know how games have worked for at least 10 years now.
Yes, I buy my games physically. I don't buy games they don't work at launch, that would be stupid. You only play garbage like skyrim which never worked, not even on PC with all the attention in the world and fan fixes, so you do not know this.
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>t. buys 36 year old PC switch ports for full price+super bonus collector edition fee from limited run games
heh nothin personal kid
Yes? Unless you are talking about the expansions, the game is fine without any patches, hell i dont remember a single patch or fix that is considered "mandatory".
The physical disk grants you the same access to all patches as a digital license, independently of some bullshit ToS-ridden account you do not own or have any real control over.
>Nobody wants to play an unpatched offline copy of a game in 20 years.
Can you not fathom people wanting to play unnerfed versions of games? Harder bosses, more broken weapons or builds, that's where the fun is at. Imagine makign such a dumb ass comment when WoW is in shambles and people would rather play classic or on private servers instead. Games CAN be made worse. Games are OFTEN made worse. Having the option to play both the unnerfed and the fully patched version is objectively better than not having that option.
You're a moron and discs are irrelevant to the argument you're presenting. If you want to play a specific version of a game you'd just look up the torrent for said version. Holding up discs as the only way to access un-patched versions is stupid by itself, but even stupider is to ignore all versions of a game between launch and the current patch.
I'm clearly talking about consoles however let me just offer this, right now if you want to play the v1 of a game with Denuvo the ONLY way to do that is with a disc version unless you buy the game on PC day 1 and never update it. With more and more games having Denuvo for all their initial patches and no one currently cracking Denuvo, it's actually an issue to consider where those older versions can very well be lost.
You are apparently the uneducated tard you cant comprehend doing research to avoid the cancer games that are clearly released in unfinished states. If a game needs a patch to be good, its a piece of shit. As for buying discs that are for online only games? Thats a you problem. You must have gotten assmad about buying physical copies of Tony Hawk 5 and Overwatch.
While nothing you've said is wrong, I do wonder why you're so gleeful about it.
Real talk. Put the phony trollnon shit aside. Was this the future you wanted?
>Was this the future you wanted?
No, but the time to protest was literally 18 years ago during the PS3/360 generation. People need to realize they're not putting the genie back in the bottle and it's pure abject denial otherwise.
>but the time to protest was literally 18 years ago during the PS3/360 generation
Uhh, I did. Y'all called me a moron.
I've hacked my PS3 now, dumped my discs, and dumped the updates for the games as well. I guess this is fine. PS4 is shit, dumping my own games is a pain in the ass, I've stopped buying those games. The Switch is the best current gen trash. I'm not dumping my games cause I'm lazy, but everything is easily saved to offline
5 months ago
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>ya'll
Go back homosexual
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Go back homosexual
Give me a time machine. I'll pay you back by killing a few people of your choice
>and you still need to go online to access all sorts of features.
Bad game if it needs to go online to be good. I have 300+ games on my ps4 and not a single one requires the internet. My system has never even been online. >Nobody wants to play an unpatched offline copy of a game in 20 years.
They will if the game is good and not a pos online game or shit that required patches to be playable.
Unpatched versions are PRECISELY what I'm looking for tard. >RDR1 manimals >RDR2 john marston correct clothing, naked glitch, explore New Austin as Morgan, etc. >AC Unity with the original graphics >The Last Guardian in 60fps
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but most physical media you buy on Xbox is just a CD Key. It makes you download more than half the game to even play it.
Thats what i was kinda saying, but no point when the system itself makes you activate it online. Im aware the discs are usually like that, rare replay in particular had all the 360 games not on it. But i wasn't buying the hardware in the first place anyway so its whatever.
You don't need to "activate" anything. If you don't have internet the console still allows you to continue with using a guest gamertag.
Any game that requires a download extra apart from the disk is labeled as such and it's your problem if you buy it.
Only Xbox/360 BC games and those that are only partially on disc require an internet download. All games with data on c disc from Xbone and SeX can be played without ever having had internet.
More games are fully on disc than you realize.
Dunno why you quoted me, Nintendo will never stop producing physical games. As I've said before, there won't be video game sections, there will be nintendo sections. All that shelf space will be theirs.
none of that space will be repurposed for nintendo, more like phone accessories. nintendo's own shelf is half filler with amiibos and random merch. they already have less video games than the ps and xbox shelf.
if its a game people want to play you can sell it on ebay for near full price minus shipping if its still near release. 75% off at gamestop is for people who want to do zero legwork.
LET ME STOP YA THERE BUD!
no, fricker, its a $70 game for maybe $55 on ebay if it's GOOD within the first 3 or so months. Ppl want to recoup cost and GS doesn't even give $40 credit for $70 games, you get like $35 tops, cash being like $25.
>loss and hoarders that think plastic disks don't get lost, degraded, scratched or broken.
They dont, as long as you are not moronic, a child or a poor minority.
>or a poor minority
Stop drinking /misc/'s Kool-Aid, you stupid frick. The poor are the ones that take care of their stuff the most, because it's all they have.
I have lost significantly more games to servers being turned off, shitting getting yanked from steam, and forgotten account info than i have over damaged physical media.
Got to admit this is true when I actually thought about it. Buying physical on switch and every other game is just on PC and physical on PC is just "lol".
I can't play any of my downloaded games on the xbox if the internet cuts out, which it did for a solid two weeks a month ago. Disc authentication sidesteps this problem, which is why I dusted off Assassin's Creed Origins and actually finished it.
>I can't play any of my downloaded games on the xbox if the internet cuts out
That's because you're a moron that doesn't understand how to setup your account properly.
Then you're accessing a game you haven't bought (probably a friends copy).
When you buy a game you get two licenses, one tied to online connection, one tied to console.
If you set your home console to home console, you can access all your games offline till the end of days.
Not sure how it works with gamepass games, but the service itself is already online, so it's redundant.
That's how everyone in my highschool started playing Halo CE with eachother. Someone had it on a flash drive and it got passed around the whole school. We were playing it on school computers and school-issued laptops all the time. I miss those times...
This. If you store a gog setup on a bluray, flash drive or even a micro sd card, it will be your own homemade physics game. You can even go ahead and store that in a nicely printed box to get the full impression of a physical game.
>if properly taken care of and stored >implying the normies are like that.
Nope. Discs have a lifespan of 100+ years if properly taken care of and stored besides maybe CDR. Discs from the 80s are still working properly.
>muh discrot!
Fringe cases of poor manufacturing on stuff like laserdisc and poor storage conditions (aka living in some sweltering, humid arm-pit of a region).
>Xbox is dead as a console and the name will be instead used as branding for Microsoft games on PSN and other services while GamePass will be Microsoft's own Steam/Epic client service
Will Xbone go down as the biggest blunder in vidya history? At least the Saturn had good stuff and a reason to buy it.
It's impossible for a major console to be worse than the Jaguar.
Xbone still has a few good exclusives which weren't ported to PC and backwards compatibility.
Now an all digital Series X would be the most redundant machine ever.
The new Series revision has no disc drive, which mean these next few months will be the last time Xbox with disc drives will be produced. At this point just go PC. They are all pushing you to Steam.
>only play old pirated pc games and retro games >burn to CD if its a PC game >make my own boxes using stuff like the cover project or nintandbox for fun and as a way to use old cardboard
This. I don't understand peoples obsession with physical discs when most of the time the entire game isn't on there, or theres day one updates, or theres dlc which is digital anyway and doesn't move with the disc.
>you can make your own disc art >make your own boxes >make your own art booklets >"noooo i dont want a physical collection like that!!"
Consumer prostitutes. All they are.
and you can do literally all of this, on your own. Download PS2 game. Print your own box art. Biu blank dvd cases, put it in there. Print a little leaflet to put in the instruction booklet.
Wow, you have a physical collection. And you didn't get scammed.
and you can do literally all of this, on your own. Download PS2 game. Print your own box art. Biu blank dvd cases, put it in there. Print a little leaflet to put in the instruction booklet.
Wow, you have a physical collection. And you didn't get scammed.
Great idea anon. I already have backups of my games on dvds and hard drives. Now I'm gonna print cover art for my favourite games and make my own physical games collection.
I said it was only slightly better, its still shit.
And I own everything. I buy and support games I like, but also keep backed up pirated version to 100gb m-discs in my archive.
whats the point if the physical version just makes you download the digital version anyway? we need 100gb discs that are 10x as fast to justify physical again
Years ago when I predicted it would happen I always thought i'd be sad. But i've never been happier to see these bloated, redundant giants go down in flames.
I think it is to feel superior. However, in this particular thread, they might be legit Microsoft shills (yes they actually exist and post on here for money). When you point this out they usually ignore you or try to make you look crazy.
I'd like physical games as well, but ones that can store the complete game on the disc/cart. If your medium cannot store updates or DLC, there is zero point to having a physical version of the game.
>If your game needs updates and dlc to be good, its shit.
So then you don't play any current gen games so why do you care what PS5 and Xbox do with there shitty boxes.
>So then you don't play any current gen games so why do you care
its called liking videogames, you tend to care for the medium not just for the morons that ruin it
I think they mean why is there fighting in the first place, usually started by digital only people looking down on people buying digital.
Sometimes you get the physical disc with the supposed full game only having part of the game on it, which defeats the purpose. Sometimes you get an offline game and have to connect online to allow for you to play it. Both are terrible practices imo. In all other cases, I think physical and digital are great as long as neither require DRM.
>usually started by digital only people looking down on people buying digital. >say you don't care cause you don't buy physical anyways >OMG HOW DARE YOU
That's what actually happens
>Hehe you fricking moron physical cuck your game only has 40gb of the data on disc with a 10gb update you might as well have just got the digital version for a higher price and even longer download time with no resale value I have won!
Why are digital gays like this? Do they know how stupid they sound?
>haha digital cucks are so stupid! they buy games that can be revoked. the servers could be shut down at any time! >that's why I buy physical products that only hold 5kB keys that unlocks the digital download, I'm smart!
>sell game for a fraction of the price >feel the itch to replay it years later >have to pay the scarcity tax
physical games have always lead to stupid choices that come back to haunt you when you're older, like trading all your SNES carts for an N64.
Emulation has existed forever. And if that isn't accurate enough, flash carts play the games perfectly on original hardware. And if that isn't good enough, FGPAs exist.
Don't game discs only have the exe and the rest of the game has to be downloaded? Some switch cartridges don't even have the full game in them or if it's a collection the other games must be downloaded from their servers. It's clear the industry wants to move to a digital only system.
no, despite what lies you've heard from corporations trying to get you to buy digital that's not true. many games have the full game on disc with no download required. there might be patches but they're optional. you can be in a nuclear sub, pop the disc in, and play a game. at least on playstation. for some reason microsoft doesn't allow triple layer discs so their disc sizes cap out at 66gb instead of 100gb like sony's. switch cartridges are hit or miss depend on how israeli the company is but many games are fully on cartridge if they're 16gb or less.
It's dependent on the publisher. Some of the switch games can fit in their respected cartridges but due to cost cutting and not wanting to buy bigger file formats they put partial games on smaller cartridges. Publishers are doing cost cutting due to inflated budgets and they will put physical on the chopping block and they've been leaning to that lever the past few years. The new COD game even on PS5 is an EXE file that downloads files to the console or let's not forget fallout 76 had a cardboard disc in it.
those always online games can get away with it to an extent. the target audience is going to play it online and the game disc becomes a coaster if the servers go down. i think it's a terrible practice though, especially when part of the reason they can get away with stuff like that is because they completely removed local coop.
but for the switch games, it does depend on the publisher and the game in question. some games are fully on cartridge, others have download codes and it's not even consistent between regions. some japanaese games are fully on cartridge like ffx/x-2 while in the west only ffx is and you have to download ffx-2 with a code.
I love how Microsoft printed copies of Redfail and Forza Motorsport, that are 100% online games but when it comes to Hi-Fi Rush and Hellblade2 it's like naw frick that and frick you subscribe to goypass you filthy goyim
Ganker sure makes a big deal about digital when it comes to Microsoft, but then makes 80 threads a day about steam numbers while talking about games you can now only get digitally.
You know you can buy digital games on console too right?
Netflix subscriptions have harmed theater, physical and digital sales and gamepass will do the same to games.
Steam is just a marketplace like GOG and Epic. They make money selling you the games, not charging you monthly fees.
Every criticism about Steam boils down to "LE DRM THO!!!" which is 100% up to the publisher and easily circumvented, you can even download any version of a game, crack the files and ask for a refund lol. The Xbox app on PC doesn't even let you mod the goddamn game.
Emulation has existed forever. And if that isn't accurate enough, flash carts play the games perfectly on original hardware. And if that isn't good enough, FGPAs exist.
Yeah, it's almost like all games are digital files in nature and need backups to be preserved.
Digital leads to publishers releasing collections full of games with teaks and new features. Physical only leads to absurd life decisions like paying $300 for a loose Earthbound cart.
Yeah, now that retroarch and fightcade exist publishers can't get way with selling a shitty PAL roms running on a laggy emulator with forced bi-linear blur like they did with the mini consoles years ago.
Explain how piracy isn't the ultimate way of owning your games.
>buy physical
Best case scenario, you're only allowed to play it on one console, and you have to hope that it doesn't break anytime soon. No mods, no romhacks, no modifications whatsoever unless the corporation gives you permission. Worst case scenario, it's an unpatched 70 mb file that requires a massive 500 gb patch just to be playable.
>b-but digital cucks don't own anything
Wrong. Rental cucks don't own anything. Pirate chads own everything.
>but DRM
Nope, my games don't have DRM in them. They do not require internet access. A company can never touch my games. I have ultimate control.
>BUT YOU CAN'T SELL THEM
If I hated them so much that i wanted to sell them, I wouldn't buy them in the first place. Thus piracy acts as a great way to demo a game. If I love the game, I'd never sell it. All you're doing is treating vidya like a property investment, instead of a source of enjoyment. Pitiful.
>Explain how piracy isn't the ultimate way of owning your games.
Because it's digital. Piracy is merely the ultimate digital way; all accesibility, no stupid walls to prevent it.
>Pay +$500 for your game system >Pay internet extra just to use it >You don't own the box
This IS the future you chose with Steam and gen 7, now lie in the bed
>servers go down >all game patches go poof >newer retail games will be unplayable because of shit AAA practices >All the game breaking bugs before the day one update will be there >Some games will not boot because it's only a verification key with zero files in it >Bundles and game """collections""" will be incomplete because the rest of the games must be downloaded.
You are already living in a digital future you just haven't realized it yet. Once last gen and current gen servers go offline you will see a lot of games being rendered unplayable, incomplete, and useless.
>Just because it hasn't happened to me it means it's not true
Just you watch the uproar for plenty of games being deemed unplayable once the servers shutdown. Let's not forget games now have roadmaps even are single player games. Let's also add that to the list of people playing inferior versions of the games they bought.
Remember that Microsoft just wants to sell gamepass subs and the gamepass model for games is not good enough to buy but good enough to try. Wouldn't be surprised if there upcoming digital only console is their last one
https://www.cinemablend.com/games/Pokemon-X-Y-Bug-Corrupts-Saves-Here-How-Avoid-It-59999.html
Unless you only play PS2 games that isn’t a thing that exists anymore.
They didn't lay off the Odyssey devs moron
They just disbanded the team and put them on different games
This is still a shitty moneygrubbing decision but at least the devs weren't canned
>They might
That's not confirming that they will and let's not forget the starfield buyback. Xbox physical game sales dropped into a single digit percentage this gen and their next console is digital only. The writing is on the wall.
I have bought maybe 5 physical games for my xbox and they never get played because digital is right there. Once I realized discs are nothing but glorified one use usbs, I gave up on the fight. We all lost when stores stopped carrying PC games and businesses agreed to pay monthly fees for excel instead of owning one copy of office and telling MS to frick off.
Physical tards think they are going to live forever and that their collections will last forever.
Both are wrong.
The shelf life of a Blu ray/DVD disc isn't much older than 20 years.
The Xbox 360 was introduced 18 years ago, which means in two years all those purchases you made online will actually have latest longer than physical.
Tick tock, Discies.
Nope. Discs have a lifespan of 100+ years if properly taken care of and stored besides maybe CDR. Discs from the 80s are still working properly.
>muh discrot!
Fringe cases of poor manufacturing on stuff like laserdisc and poor storage conditions (aka living in some sweltering, humid arm-pit of a region).
>
My ps1 discs are fine, my ps2 discs are fine, my gc discs are fine, modern discs are worse than old ones qualitywise, and my modern discs are actually fine. Take care of your shit, gay
>My ps1 discs are fine
I doubt this a million times over. PlayStation was notorious for cracking the doughnut hole of disks and so was the solid plastic cases. Not to mention the quality of the disk holders is barbaric by today's standards. So either you wern't playing the games or you're lying.
>I doubt this a million times over >Not to mention the quality of the disk holders is barbaric by today's standards.
Like I said; take care of your shit, animal
I kept my games immaculate as a kid but didn’t know the israeliteel cases would literally turn to brown sludge in under a years time with no provocation. I lost a ton of out of print shit in the 2000’s. Unless you have your discs vacuum sealed in a clean room there are so many factors that destroy your collection.
>the israeliteel cases would literally turn to brown sludge in under a years time with no provocation.
I don't know what kind of strange conditions you're living in but that is not typical
5 months ago
Anonymous
I live in perfect conditions in the middle of the USA. No sunlight, no heater exposure. It is a well documented phenomenon that these companies used shit plastic that makes this sticky brown/black sludge in as little as a years time.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Citation needed
5 months ago
Anonymous
I think it is techmoan that breaks it down perfectly. Cheaper plastic excretes this shit fast and others slowly but they all do it within 20 years unless kept in a clean room. I know you are too fricking lazy to look it up yourself.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>they all do it within 20 years
Bro I have PS1 games that are over 20 years old and aren't full of brown sludge so I know you are full of shit.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Cheaper plastic excretes this shit fast and others slowly but they all do it within 20 years unless kept in a clean room
Well, yeah. People complaining about it when in reality they're filthy fricks, the frick did they expect?
5 months ago
Anonymous
>It is a well documented phenomenon that these companies used shit plastic that makes this sticky brown/black sludge in as little as a years time.
I've seen israeliteel cases from decades ago just fine.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>My best friend is black and he never committed a crime
You argue like a woman
>didn’t know the israeliteel cases would literally turn to brown sludge in under a years time with no provocation
You're supposed to shelter from a storm, not live inside one
What should I do to make a physical collection of pirated PC games
I've been thinking about putting installers/ZIP files onto discs and making custom cases, but using flash drives seems cheaper and more convenient. What do you guys suggest?
Preservation will be in digital format once it's digital it can be shared everywhere and emulation will make sure of that.
Even if the game is nonfunctional on a emulator downloading it and burning it to a blank disc will make it playable assuming you own the hardware. I don't see the big deal if we move to digital only formats. Jailbreak the console download the game to a thumb drive/hard drive install the patches manually and it's like nothing changed. Publisher being an butthole? Pirate it simple solution. Server shutdown? Jailbreak your console and install the games yourself.
This is something morons on the internet don't want to face; In perspective, nobody gives a single shit about preservation Hence the massive amount of remakes/remasters of below average quality
Those are publishers cashing in on nostalgia and the average Joe. People are autistic enough to back up and upload rips of games nowadays. Even if people don't care about preservation a group of autists will and those rips spread all over groups emulation sites torrents and other file sharing places.
>physical game department
so they'll only be publishing first party games digitally from now on? Their games probably sell best on PC anyway, so who cares?
Can you see how your precious video game industry collapses? Abandon games, and live only for travel and luxury. Games induce only stress. Relax on a beach in Hawaii.
>travel >inflated costs at hotels, flights and extra expenses
If only
I kept my games immaculate as a kid but didn’t know the israeliteel cases would literally turn to brown sludge in under a years time with no provocation. I lost a ton of out of print shit in the 2000’s. Unless you have your discs vacuum sealed in a clean room there are so many factors that destroy your collection.
>relatives were moronic with discs >gave a buch of them in rough shape from israeliteel cases to discs >Fifa98 for ps1 even had part of the disc missing >all works
I think you're overblowing it. Or you'll never witness it at full power. That Fifa game suffered in fps but booted just fine surprinsingly
>While none of this impacts digital gamers up front, it could impact them on the back end. If there is no physical market to compete with on price, digital game sales could become less frequent and less potent, making the expensive hobby even more expensive.
https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/the-20-best-selling-games-of-2023-in-the-us/2900-4951/
1/4 of the best selling games of 2023 were Microsoft In an industry that is more saturated than ever.
Thanks for playing.
Those games will still be multiplat still, unless someone calling the shots at xbox hq suddenly becomes smart. Activision is not associated to xbox, neither Ninja Theory and they got bought years ago. In the end the Microsoft studios game are... irrelevant in every metric, even shrinking somehow
The Series X was down to $300-$350 during the holidays and still got outsold by the Switch that was selling at the exact same price point. So pretty damn bad.
I'm so curious to see just how much money Microsoft can flush down the toilet while still achieving no notable success in the gaming industry. We've already seen from the Palworld tweets that gamepass is pathetically small and irrelevant compared to Steam. I wonder what the upper limit is... If ~80 billion isn't it, then what? 200 billion?
MS' deal is extending reach, by any means. It's an evil company for that same reason
https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/the-20-best-selling-games-of-2023-in-the-us/2900-4951/
1/4 of the best selling games of 2023 were Microsoft In an industry that is more saturated than ever.
Thanks for playing.
My argument was that the money is in software. And your argument is that they're selling it on PS.... and making more money.
You're not very bright are you?
Kekking all the way to the bank. Thank you for playing!
>My argument was that the money is in software
And most of the money comes from PS versions due
Why is MS still putting out console hardware even?
as measure. Only Starfield qualifies properly, the others? xbox constitutes the smaller proportion
5 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit your mind is rotten from playing too much PlayStation.
My argument: consoles sales are irrelevant, the money is software. (hardware rarely makes money and is even sometimes sold at a loss)
Your reply: But Microsoft sells that software on Playstation... and makes themselves even more money! Thus they are broke and bankrupt!
You are a genuine moron. Do yourself a favor and drop the PS worship.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Holy shit your mind is rotten from playing too much PlayStation.
I have a 360, 3ds (hacked), Wii, DS, Ps1 and Ps2 (currently out of comission).
>My argument: consoles sales are irrelevant, the money is software. (hardware rarely makes money and is even sometimes sold at a loss)
Switch is not sold at loss, only thrid party model is like Sony & MS which is a clear mistake but they don't want to face it or rectify it. Leaving their possible profits on software and that relies entirely on the one that sells more consoles, which is PS between them. This translates in more consoles = more game units = more players on that system = more chance to keep milking them further. It can be Xbox... but they don't sell nearly as much consoles as sony's so Cod, Howarts and the likes have more players in there and more units sold
5 months ago
Anonymous
Nintendo is the only company that's had big success selling hardware for profit, and it's had some big failures (Wii U), and it also comes at the cost of outdated specs.
The video game market is more saturated than ever. There's mobiles, consoles, PC's (and all their offshoots). The money is releasing your games on all of these, not bolstering an ecosystem that resets every generation and has no guarantee of success.
Remember, the average PlayStation user played less than 5 hours A YEAR of call of duty. And most of their top games are sports shit.
There's no money in "owning" the Playstation ecosystem compared to releasing your shit everywhere to guaranteed sales.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>The money is releasing your games on all of these, not bolstering an ecosystem that resets every generation and has no guarantee of success.
Tell that to switch, wii before it.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Loved how you conveniently skipped the Wii U which decimates your entire argument.
Also forget the Gamecube and N64.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Loved how you conveniently skipped the Wii U which decimates your entire argument.
Your passive-agressive banter won't work. Wii U might be the exception to the rule. Because there's also DS, GBA and 3DS (which saved a failure). Neither GC nor 64 were failures, just the impression due lower numbers compared to their massively succesful competition, also a very rare level of success.
Now I'll be nice and leave you space to use the Virtual boy as excuse
5 months ago
Anonymous
The Gamecube was not a success, come on. It was why Nintendo drastically changed direction the following generation.
All of this is besides the point anyway, because the argument is that Nintendo is the only company that's had any success doing it, and it's risky.
Microsoft and Sony aren't about to release generational old hardware for massive profits, because their strategies have always been selling software. Microsoft is just ahead of the curve in this respect.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>All of this is besides the point anyway, because the argument is that Nintendo is the only company that's had any success doing it, and it's risky.
It's not. Selling your systems at loss is, if it doesn't get traction you're fricked almost inmediately
5 months ago
Anonymous
You're fricking immediately (not almost) if you can't even sell generational old hardware at marked up costs.
Again, Nintendo is the only company to succeed in doing this, and has had some big failures.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>You're fricking immediately (not almost) if you can't even sell generational old hardware at marked up costs.
Not necesarily, you need to be smart in how you spend. Wii U was giving green numbers even in its full flop mode, because Nintendo is smart. Not because of getting behind on purpose, they could but they won't seeing how the ones doing it are performing and suffering
5 months ago
Anonymous
>There's no money in "owning" the Playstation ecosystem compared to releasing your shit everywhere to guaranteed sales.
IIRC the trial confirmed the money comes from microtransaction and the like, definetly more than xbox; more consoles, more active players, more money from it
>outsource >outsource >outsource >outsource
just what we need more of
PAJEETS!
5 months ago
Anonymous
>PAJEETS!
i wish people understood that india is by far the biggest shithole on the planet and it's by magnitudes
5 months ago
Anonymous
>IIRC the trial confirmed the money comes from microtransaction and the like, definetly more than xbox; more consoles, more active players, more money from it
You don't understand the point.
What's a bigger guarantee for making money: >an ecosystem that resets every generation and only covers one manufacturer >releasing your games everywhere, and reaping the profits from sales, dlc, microtransactions, etc. on every platform
People unironically are trying to argue that Microsoft selling Call of Duty hurts Microsoft. Protip; Microsoft does not care where you buy the Nicki Minaj skin pack for Call of Duty. They are making guaranteed money.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>What's a bigger guarantee for making money:
A platform where the most players are with dlc, sales, microtransactions
5 months ago
Anonymous
So PC then?
5 months ago
Anonymous
No. We're talking about game systems, not pc
5 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong. We are talking about software.
You keep moving the goalposts.
No matter how many times you slice it, Microsoft has the software game down.
They are on every single platform, they have a major platform in the form of Xbox, and they have monopoly on the PC market.
This idea that PlayStation monetarily better off because they have a few million Fifa/NBA/Madden drones in their ecosystem is outright moronic.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Wrong. We are talking about software.
And PC isn't reliable in that regard.
>xbox >major platform
Anon...
>This idea that PlayStation monetarily better off because they have a few million Fifa/NBA/Madden drones in their ecosystem is outright moronic.
PS is a better monetarily place is because they have better numbers on games that xbox also has
5 months ago
Anonymous
>PS is a better monetarily place is because they have better numbers on games that xbox also has
That's not how it works and it's obvious you're a PlayStation fanboy stuck in this console war mindset.
There's a reason PlayStation has moved to PC.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>That's not how it works and it's obvious you're a PlayStation fanboy
Love it at how you mention at every ps mention
>There's a reason PlayStation has moved to PC.
And that's proof PS money isn't there since the low playerbase they have. Just like Xbox's to PS, it's simple
5 months ago
Anonymous
>proof PS money isn't there since the low playerbase they have
That's why their CEO just said they are committing to bigger PC releases. lol
5 months ago
Anonymous
And their CEO got out due how disconnected was
5 months ago
Anonymous
Oh no no no no... Someone didn't update you on your script.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2215448/playstation-boss-says-games-are-coming-to-pc-mobile-and-cloud.html
Please go back to the drawing board and come up with some better arguments. Thanks.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, GaaS. Just like MS, what's the issue?
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think I've argued with anyone more dense.
The money is in software and releasing your content on more platforms. Sony agrees. You are stuck in a 20 year old mindset. Sorry.
5 months ago
Anonymous
You're the dense, buddy. For the 7th time; xbox brings the less money.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Wrong again
https://qz.com/microsofts-xbox-will-leapfrog-sonys-playstation-for-the-1851035237
I love how you keep moving the goalposts and yet you are still wrong every single time. This is quite fun.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I don't see how that post would require a whiteknight tier post link
>2023
nah
5 months ago
Anonymous
>it doesn't count because it just doesn't ok!
I accept your concession. Better luck next time.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm surprised you're pulling that memearrow this far tbqh.
5 months ago
Anonymous
This homie still trying to justify buying a Series S to himself
if microsoft tries going full-digital they are going to be hanging their hat up very shortly into the console generation, playstation isn't learning from it yet and they're wrestling with the same issue that xbox is with the series s: nobody wants the fricking system that you can't buy a game at the store with, and this is with the series s holding a reputation as being an emulator machine through dev mode because that's all it's really good for
Holy copium, batman. People already download games on pc, physical discs will die, and anyone who says otherwise is going to wind up looking like those people who thought personal computers were a fad
sony and microsoft are out of touch; they raced for graphics without realizing the problem with that and don't understand that PC and consoles are completely different as well as the mind of their users, this is something that hasn't changed in over 20 years and giving signs of becoming more blatant
post it then. Post the quote where microsoft says that they will close down the development of physical disks. Every fricking week we have fake xbox rumors and no ever backs up their claims
It shouldn’t. Games are cheaper and easier to make now than ever. They require next to zero r&d as engines are all loicensed now instead of built from scratch. If they are in house, they are milked like creation engine, re engine, or frostbite and hardly ever updated even if they don’t fit the game genre. Meshs and rigging is done for you. Art? Ai now. There is no reason games aren’t 20 dollars outside of all the corpo middle men who claim to be in marketing. Disposable toys don’t deserve high price tags.
>Sonytendo kills Sega >Jump ship to Microsoft >Sonytendo kills Microsoft
It's happening all over again. Why is it happening all over again. Make it stop
I'd be more worried if Sony fired it's entire physical game team since I imagine more people buy physical playstation games over xbox games, and same for Nintendo Switch games. I know a guy that buys all physical, specifically Nintendo Switch games. He has like 60+ physical Nintendo Switch games.
I've been try to sound the alarm since 2016. I know none of you will listen. If you work in burbank I want to let you know that over 80k people will lose their job. By the end of the year. These jobs will not be coming back to North America. It is over.
Out of the 400 employees that work at our studio, only 30% of them will have a job in the next 14 days. 50% of them will never receive contracts from us again or anyone else in the gaming industry ever again.
I’m buying a PS5 soon, should I go for digital or disc slot?
I haven’t used a disc in years so not sure if there’s any point. The hardware is the same, and even the physical games you buy still have to download and install content to work right?
Only good thing about the Xbox is the controllers, the controller is so well designed that the sticks won't usually give out like sony controllers or the buttons won't fly off because they are well engineered and they have 0% chance to fly out even during intensive gaming.
Funny. Sony controllers are designed for little kids that can't put any force by accident into the buttons.
Palworld machine for the living room. Why, what's the point of owning a PS5 these days? Being able to play shitty movie games 5 months before their Steam release?
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-prices-predicted-to-skyrocket-throughout-2024
the israelite wont let you have local storage anymore anon.
you gotta be a good goy and buy the cloud.
Realistically they probably looked at how many games: >can't be played without an online account >can't be played without 50GB of patches >are just a download code on the disc with no actual game anyway
and other such trends and said "frick it let's just cut out the middle man".
They probably also looked at some metric of how many people use the disc drive vs other ways of getting data into the device and, being a business, decided not to care about the less than 50% of users who actually use physical media because it's cheaper to build things without disc drives (+ fewer moving parts = fewer failure points = fewer customer service issues) and to run a games industry without physical media infrastructure. It would be a huge cost savings from their perspective.
Plus it kills the resell/secondary games market going forward
literally who buys physical games anymore besides tendies
Anyone who doesn't want to suck a corporate wiener and not pay money for a download.
Microsoft though is a shitty drmbox you need to activate online before use, so no loss here.
who cares? you download games on PC anyway so the next logical step is to do it in your console as well
I dont download games on pc because i stopped playing on pc when they started pushing online verification shit. And even if i were to download a game, no way in frick would i spend actual money in doing so.
>Anyone who doesn't want to suck a corporate wiener and not pay money for a download.
Yeah those are called "pirateCHADS". Nice try snoy, but you're still a cuck for corporations.
morons like you still haven't figured out that it's over. You buy physical games, telling yourself that you're the bulwark against the barbarous corporations, but your physical games are unpatched, sometimes even just "keys" for full game downloads, and you still need to go online to access all sorts of features.
Nobody wants to play an unpatched offline copy of a game in 20 years.
You lost a long time ago.
Still better than digital.
Let me ask you, would you play an unpatched version of Skyrim today? I.E. the original day one release?
The answer (I'm going to answer for you) is no.
Your physical copies are worthless.
Why would I play skyrim when I can play anything else? Skyrim is worthless.
I knew this would be your next deflection, because you are unable to argue on the points. Replace Skyrim with anything else. You know how games have worked for at least 10 years now.
>You know how games have worked for at least 10 years now.
Yes, I buy my games physically. I don't buy games they don't work at launch, that would be stupid. You only play garbage like skyrim which never worked, not even on PC with all the attention in the world and fan fixes, so you do not know this.
>t. buys 36 year old PC switch ports for full price+super bonus collector edition fee from limited run games
heh nothin personal kid
>switch ports
Disgusting!
Yes? Unless you are talking about the expansions, the game is fine without any patches, hell i dont remember a single patch or fix that is considered "mandatory".
no
>The answer (I'm going to answer for you) is no.
>Your physical copies are worthless.
Still better than digital
>bethesda game
lmao
>so dumb he doesn't understand the point
You are Bethesda's target audience.
The physical disk grants you the same access to all patches as a digital license, independently of some bullshit ToS-ridden account you do not own or have any real control over.
What's wrong with it.
I never played it but I got the ps3 version at goodwill for $2.50.
>Nobody wants to play an unpatched offline copy of a game in 20 years.
Can you not fathom people wanting to play unnerfed versions of games? Harder bosses, more broken weapons or builds, that's where the fun is at. Imagine makign such a dumb ass comment when WoW is in shambles and people would rather play classic or on private servers instead. Games CAN be made worse. Games are OFTEN made worse. Having the option to play both the unnerfed and the fully patched version is objectively better than not having that option.
You're a moron and discs are irrelevant to the argument you're presenting. If you want to play a specific version of a game you'd just look up the torrent for said version. Holding up discs as the only way to access un-patched versions is stupid by itself, but even stupider is to ignore all versions of a game between launch and the current patch.
I'm clearly talking about consoles however let me just offer this, right now if you want to play the v1 of a game with Denuvo the ONLY way to do that is with a disc version unless you buy the game on PC day 1 and never update it. With more and more games having Denuvo for all their initial patches and no one currently cracking Denuvo, it's actually an issue to consider where those older versions can very well be lost.
You are apparently the uneducated tard you cant comprehend doing research to avoid the cancer games that are clearly released in unfinished states. If a game needs a patch to be good, its a piece of shit. As for buying discs that are for online only games? Thats a you problem. You must have gotten assmad about buying physical copies of Tony Hawk 5 and Overwatch.
It's only becoming more and more common.
>w-well I don't like those games anyway!
The absolute cope. You lost and are still in denial.
I lost because i choose not to play online only shit and unfinished AAA shit? Ok, dood.
While nothing you've said is wrong, I do wonder why you're so gleeful about it.
Real talk. Put the phony trollnon shit aside. Was this the future you wanted?
>Was this the future you wanted?
No, but the time to protest was literally 18 years ago during the PS3/360 generation. People need to realize they're not putting the genie back in the bottle and it's pure abject denial otherwise.
>but the time to protest was literally 18 years ago during the PS3/360 generation
Uhh, I did. Y'all called me a moron.
I've hacked my PS3 now, dumped my discs, and dumped the updates for the games as well. I guess this is fine. PS4 is shit, dumping my own games is a pain in the ass, I've stopped buying those games. The Switch is the best current gen trash. I'm not dumping my games cause I'm lazy, but everything is easily saved to offline
>ya'll
Go back homosexual
>Go back homosexual
Give me a time machine. I'll pay you back by killing a few people of your choice
>and you still need to go online to access all sorts of features.
Bad game if it needs to go online to be good. I have 300+ games on my ps4 and not a single one requires the internet. My system has never even been online.
>Nobody wants to play an unpatched offline copy of a game in 20 years.
They will if the game is good and not a pos online game or shit that required patches to be playable.
Unpatched versions are PRECISELY what I'm looking for tard.
>RDR1 manimals
>RDR2 john marston correct clothing, naked glitch, explore New Austin as Morgan, etc.
>AC Unity with the original graphics
>The Last Guardian in 60fps
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but most physical media you buy on Xbox is just a CD Key. It makes you download more than half the game to even play it.
Thats what i was kinda saying, but no point when the system itself makes you activate it online. Im aware the discs are usually like that, rare replay in particular had all the 360 games not on it. But i wasn't buying the hardware in the first place anyway so its whatever.
Most if not all games nowadays rarely release cds.
Majority of pc players don't touch their cd rom.
Do laptops even come with disc drives anymore? The last two I bought didn’t
You don't need to "activate" anything. If you don't have internet the console still allows you to continue with using a guest gamertag.
Any game that requires a download extra apart from the disk is labeled as such and it's your problem if you buy it.
Only Xbox/360 BC games and those that are only partially on disc require an internet download. All games with data on c disc from Xbone and SeX can be played without ever having had internet.
More games are fully on disc than you realize.
kys yourself
Dunno why you quoted me, Nintendo will never stop producing physical games. As I've said before, there won't be video game sections, there will be nintendo sections. All that shelf space will be theirs.
none of that space will be repurposed for nintendo, more like phone accessories. nintendo's own shelf is half filler with amiibos and random merch. they already have less video games than the ps and xbox shelf.
I do occasionally but for used games or if there's a game I want to play and resell. Still wish digital let me resell them.
People planning to resell it to GameStop for 75% loss and hoarders that think plastic disks don't get lost, degraded, scratched or broken.
if its a game people want to play you can sell it on ebay for near full price minus shipping if its still near release. 75% off at gamestop is for people who want to do zero legwork.
LET ME STOP YA THERE BUD!
no, fricker, its a $70 game for maybe $55 on ebay if it's GOOD within the first 3 or so months. Ppl want to recoup cost and GS doesn't even give $40 credit for $70 games, you get like $35 tops, cash being like $25.
$55 would still be better than $0 you fricking moron digital gay.
>loss and hoarders that think plastic disks don't get lost, degraded, scratched or broken.
They dont, as long as you are not moronic, a child or a poor minority.
>or a poor minority
Stop drinking /misc/'s Kool-Aid, you stupid frick. The poor are the ones that take care of their stuff the most, because it's all they have.
dangerously naive and moronic
t. someone who never grew up around poor people
>The poor are the ones that take care of their stuff the most, because it's all they have.
I have lost significantly more games to servers being turned off, shitting getting yanked from steam, and forgotten account info than i have over damaged physical media.
anyone with any console
he already said 'besides morons'
My PS5 doesn’t have a disc drive
A guy who ain't going to get his live service server shut down in 4 years, thats who.
Me.
>buzzword shitter is against physical media
I’m not surprised in the slightest here.
Good, it's time to stop owning things. Only trannies and commies want you to own things.
You don't own anything if you keep buying $70 games
Outside of PC and Xbox, physical still dominates.
Got to admit this is true when I actually thought about it. Buying physical on switch and every other game is just on PC and physical on PC is just "lol".
I can't play any of my downloaded games on the xbox if the internet cuts out, which it did for a solid two weeks a month ago. Disc authentication sidesteps this problem, which is why I dusted off Assassin's Creed Origins and actually finished it.
>I can't play any of my downloaded games on the xbox if the internet cuts out
That's because you're a moron that doesn't understand how to setup your account properly.
I set it as the home console ages ago and it didn't care.
Then you're accessing a game you haven't bought (probably a friends copy).
When you buy a game you get two licenses, one tied to online connection, one tied to console.
If you set your home console to home console, you can access all your games offline till the end of days.
Not sure how it works with gamepass games, but the service itself is already online, so it's redundant.
Another shitboxer defending corporations
fpbp, only moronic losers hoard plastic boxes
/thread
I did before they turned into glorified licenses
Lick the boot digi-chuck. You are now belong Ninteddies. You will own nothing because you are nothing you worm.
Who's that corporate wiener taste?
It's one of those things that people pretend to care about and will lie about how they never use steam or use digital games but it's all BS of course.
I do. Physical games get cheaper faster than digital games.
time to build a pc
Give me one reason why I should care.
one step closer to a subscription game pass model for the entire industry
Good. I'll just play old games and move on with my life.
You shouldn't care, you'll own nothing and you will be happy.
>digital is the future bros
>brick and mortar stores wont have video game sections
>they'll have nintendo sections
Most Xbox’s being sold are Series S which doesn’t even have a disc tray. moron.
You can still make your own physical copies with flash drives. Still gay though.
>You can still make your own physical copies with flash drives. Still gay though.
Explain to the class moron.
Just put the installer exe or iso onto a flash drive. They're like $10.
You can't do that in Xbox.
That's how everyone in my highschool started playing Halo CE with eachother. Someone had it on a flash drive and it got passed around the whole school. We were playing it on school computers and school-issued laptops all the time. I miss those times...
Had the exact same experience, playing Halo CE online on the school’s network. Good times
This. If you store a gog setup on a bluray, flash drive or even a micro sd card, it will be your own homemade physics game. You can even go ahead and store that in a nicely printed box to get the full impression of a physical game.
what can theoretically store games for longer?
Put them in the sealed box in the basement - 60 °F/15°C.
(DRM free) Digital, because then you're not restricted to the physical format the manufacturer sold the game as.
>Xbox is dead as a console and the name will be instead used as branding for Microsoft games on PSN and other services while GamePass will be Microsoft's own Steam/Epic client service
Will Xbone go down as the biggest blunder in vidya history? At least the Saturn had good stuff and a reason to buy it.
It's impossible for a major console to be worse than the Jaguar.
Xbone still has a few good exclusives which weren't ported to PC and backwards compatibility.
Now an all digital Series X would be the most redundant machine ever.
I pirate or buy stuff cheap on digital because I'm a clumsy bastard. I constantly misplace, lose, or frick up my discs.
>Oh no! WHO WILL OPERATE THE CD BURNER NOW?!
There's no point when 99.9% of games ship incomplete and need 100 patches
Even if that's true you can often buy those physical copies on Ebay for $20 while on the digital store thee same game is still selling for $70.
Original left for dead comes to mind. Nostalgia gay Xbox 360 version is a solid $30 used everywhere I go
Yes. The endgame is forcing their consumers to buy flashdrives and extra HDD until they can't be enough
>bought a ps5
ngmi
Never gonna play Bloodborne
Thats a false narrative. Stop buying from the shit companies that do this.
Every company this year is trimming the fat.
The useless bloat that did nothing but waste time and make terrible decisions are gonna go
The new Series revision has no disc drive, which mean these next few months will be the last time Xbox with disc drives will be produced. At this point just go PC. They are all pushing you to Steam.
>only play old pirated pc games and retro games
>burn to CD if its a PC game
>make my own boxes using stuff like the cover project or nintandbox for fun and as a way to use old cardboard
physical collection complete
This. I don't understand peoples obsession with physical discs when most of the time the entire game isn't on there, or theres day one updates, or theres dlc which is digital anyway and doesn't move with the disc.
>you can make your own disc art
>make your own boxes
>make your own art booklets
>"noooo i dont want a physical collection like that!!"
Consumer prostitutes. All they are.
Theres nothing wrong with wanting something to display or to have a visual indicator of what a game is so you can just grab it and put it in.
and you can do literally all of this, on your own. Download PS2 game. Print your own box art. Biu blank dvd cases, put it in there. Print a little leaflet to put in the instruction booklet.
Wow, you have a physical collection. And you didn't get scammed.
>have to buy a printer which has physical DRM
>will literally find any excuse to suck corpo wiener
Ain't my money, but you are a fool.
Who the frick said otherwise?
Based
Great idea anon. I already have backups of my games on dvds and hard drives. Now I'm gonna print cover art for my favourite games and make my own physical games collection.
Xbox won't be getting my business then, oh well.
Anyone who buys israeliteBox shit instead of BasedStation games deserves a slow and painful death
They're both shit. Switch is only slightly better because it has good exclusives, but even then just play them on pc.
>switch
lmao
>PC
You own nothing.
I said it was only slightly better, its still shit.
And I own everything. I buy and support games I like, but also keep backed up pirated version to 100gb m-discs in my archive.
Consoles haven't been relevant for almost 3 years now.
whats the point if the physical version just makes you download the digital version anyway? we need 100gb discs that are 10x as fast to justify physical again
What we really need is discs that have some kind of ring in the center that data can be written to for things like updates or even saves.
Im all for physical when it its the complete game and makes sense to do so, but as consoles currently stand its the worst of both worlds.
>having an independent game license tied only to a disc you can sell or trade is worst of both worlds
You are a zoomzoom and a moron.
i don't even play videogames anymore lol i just come here to keep up with the industries death
Years ago when I predicted it would happen I always thought i'd be sad. But i've never been happier to see these bloated, redundant giants go down in flames.
Why do digital cucks get so fricking mad that some people want physical games?
It boggles the mind.
I think it is to feel superior. However, in this particular thread, they might be legit Microsoft shills (yes they actually exist and post on here for money). When you point this out they usually ignore you or try to make you look crazy.
I'd like physical games as well, but ones that can store the complete game on the disc/cart. If your medium cannot store updates or DLC, there is zero point to having a physical version of the game.
If your game needs updates and dlc to be good, its shit.
>If your game needs updates and dlc to be good, its shit.
So then you don't play any current gen games so why do you care what PS5 and Xbox do with there shitty boxes.
>So then you don't play any current gen games so why do you care
its called liking videogames, you tend to care for the medium not just for the morons that ruin it
why do physicalcucks pretend hard drives are not physical?
I think they mean why is there fighting in the first place, usually started by digital only people looking down on people buying digital.
Sometimes you get the physical disc with the supposed full game only having part of the game on it, which defeats the purpose. Sometimes you get an offline game and have to connect online to allow for you to play it. Both are terrible practices imo. In all other cases, I think physical and digital are great as long as neither require DRM.
>usually started by digital only people looking down on people buying digital.
>say you don't care cause you don't buy physical anyways
>OMG HOW DARE YOU
That's what actually happens
They're zoomers, and zoomers have been brainwashed to vehemently reject ownership and look down on it with pure anger.
They think convenience means better
Because hard drives works as digital, you can only rewrite at will as the only difference
Why do physical cucks get so fricking mad that some people want to pirate games?
It boggles the mind.
>palworld succeeds
>welp, remove every other game and dev, this is all we need for the next year
>Hehe you fricking moron physical cuck your game only has 40gb of the data on disc with a 10gb update you might as well have just got the digital version for a higher price and even longer download time with no resale value I have won!
Why are digital gays like this? Do they know how stupid they sound?
>haha digital cucks are so stupid! they buy games that can be revoked. the servers could be shut down at any time!
>that's why I buy physical products that only hold 5kB keys that unlocks the digital download, I'm smart!
>sell game for a fraction of the price
>feel the itch to replay it years later
>have to pay the scarcity tax
physical games have always lead to stupid choices that come back to haunt you when you're older, like trading all your SNES carts for an N64.
Emulation has existed forever. And if that isn't accurate enough, flash carts play the games perfectly on original hardware. And if that isn't good enough, FGPAs exist.
Don't game discs only have the exe and the rest of the game has to be downloaded? Some switch cartridges don't even have the full game in them or if it's a collection the other games must be downloaded from their servers. It's clear the industry wants to move to a digital only system.
looks like their going to test the waters real soon with all physical media pullback from all retail stores
no, despite what lies you've heard from corporations trying to get you to buy digital that's not true. many games have the full game on disc with no download required. there might be patches but they're optional. you can be in a nuclear sub, pop the disc in, and play a game. at least on playstation. for some reason microsoft doesn't allow triple layer discs so their disc sizes cap out at 66gb instead of 100gb like sony's. switch cartridges are hit or miss depend on how israeli the company is but many games are fully on cartridge if they're 16gb or less.
It's dependent on the publisher. Some of the switch games can fit in their respected cartridges but due to cost cutting and not wanting to buy bigger file formats they put partial games on smaller cartridges. Publishers are doing cost cutting due to inflated budgets and they will put physical on the chopping block and they've been leaning to that lever the past few years. The new COD game even on PS5 is an EXE file that downloads files to the console or let's not forget fallout 76 had a cardboard disc in it.
those always online games can get away with it to an extent. the target audience is going to play it online and the game disc becomes a coaster if the servers go down. i think it's a terrible practice though, especially when part of the reason they can get away with stuff like that is because they completely removed local coop.
but for the switch games, it does depend on the publisher and the game in question. some games are fully on cartridge, others have download codes and it's not even consistent between regions. some japanaese games are fully on cartridge like ffx/x-2 while in the west only ffx is and you have to download ffx-2 with a code.
I love how Microsoft printed copies of Redfail and Forza Motorsport, that are 100% online games but when it comes to Hi-Fi Rush and Hellblade2 it's like naw frick that and frick you subscribe to goypass you filthy goyim
Claimed by Jeff Grubb and denied by Xbox's vice president of games marketing
https://www.eurogamer.net/microsoft-insists-hi-fi-rush-a-break-out-hit-for-xbox-amid-claims-it-underperformed
>marketing guy whose ass is on the line
yeah, sure thing bro
He thinks Ganker shilling was enough?
Ganker sure makes a big deal about digital when it comes to Microsoft, but then makes 80 threads a day about steam numbers while talking about games you can now only get digitally.
steam doesn't have a subscription service
So now your argument is that digital downloads are good, but not subscriptions. I think it's time to invest in copium stocks.
Netflix subscriptions have harmed theater, physical and digital sales and gamepass will do the same to games.
Steam is just a marketplace like GOG and Epic. They make money selling you the games, not charging you monthly fees.
Every criticism about Steam boils down to "LE DRM THO!!!" which is 100% up to the publisher and easily circumvented, you can even download any version of a game, crack the files and ask for a refund lol. The Xbox app on PC doesn't even let you mod the goddamn game.
Yeah, it's almost like all games are digital files in nature and need backups to be preserved.
Digital leads to publishers releasing collections full of games with teaks and new features. Physical only leads to absurd life decisions like paying $300 for a loose Earthbound cart.
>Digital leads to publishers releasing collections full of games with teaks and new features
Yeah, now that retroarch and fightcade exist publishers can't get way with selling a shitty PAL roms running on a laggy emulator with forced bi-linear blur like they did with the mini consoles years ago.
Theater hurt theater. Poor quality movies, badly maintained facilities, expensive costs, terribly mannered people, etc. etc.
And you cannot sit there and argue in favor of Steam digital, but deride all other digital. You're coping. Either it's all fine or it's not.
You know you can buy digital games on console too right?
It's been over since Xbone, anon. Stop ignoring it for once
it's only the joegining
BIG DADDY CORPO PLEASE CUM IN MY MOUTH (for a monthly subscription fee of course)
Explain how piracy isn't the ultimate way of owning your games.
>buy physical
Best case scenario, you're only allowed to play it on one console, and you have to hope that it doesn't break anytime soon. No mods, no romhacks, no modifications whatsoever unless the corporation gives you permission. Worst case scenario, it's an unpatched 70 mb file that requires a massive 500 gb patch just to be playable.
>b-but digital cucks don't own anything
Wrong. Rental cucks don't own anything. Pirate chads own everything.
>but DRM
Nope, my games don't have DRM in them. They do not require internet access. A company can never touch my games. I have ultimate control.
>BUT YOU CAN'T SELL THEM
If I hated them so much that i wanted to sell them, I wouldn't buy them in the first place. Thus piracy acts as a great way to demo a game. If I love the game, I'd never sell it. All you're doing is treating vidya like a property investment, instead of a source of enjoyment. Pitiful.
here's hoping for a new age of software piracy
>Explain how piracy isn't the ultimate way of owning your games.
Because it's digital. Piracy is merely the ultimate digital way; all accesibility, no stupid walls to prevent it.
>Xbawks has no gaems
no, seriously
Name one good Xbox game that released post 360.
Forza Motorsport 5.
Forza is sleep inducing boring. The Horizon of Xbox
Hasn’t been good since 2
Ori. At least it was ported outside of it
Because they used to have games and release them on their platform. Old times, you wouldn't get it
d4, dead rising 3, ki, sunset overdrive. All under don mattrick
>Dead rising 3
>good
>technically
digitalgay cope
it was fun
If only a person having fun with anything and good were mutually exclusive
honestly enjoyed. It was also the only nextgen game at the time that actually tried. The amount of zombies on screen is still impressive
The physical game department? Like the group that actually prints the discs and packages them? Why would you need a department for that?
Cloud gaming is the future.
*endgame
>Pay +$500 for your game system
>Pay internet extra just to use it
>You don't own the box
This IS the future you chose with Steam and gen 7, now lie in the bed
And 10 years later, we'll see hipsters saying that games on disc are cool, just like VHS and Vinyl boom.
Not going to happen, the brainlets calling themsleves gamers are the most cucked version of consumers
>servers go down
>all game patches go poof
>newer retail games will be unplayable because of shit AAA practices
>All the game breaking bugs before the day one update will be there
>Some games will not boot because it's only a verification key with zero files in it
>Bundles and game """collections""" will be incomplete because the rest of the games must be downloaded.
You are already living in a digital future you just haven't realized it yet. Once last gen and current gen servers go offline you will see a lot of games being rendered unplayable, incomplete, and useless.
And yet I can enjoy my digitally downloaded roms of Super Metroid and Star Fox 64 because emulation guarantees permanent ownership.
My ps4, 5 and switch have never been online. All my games work fine. You are a liar.
>Just because it hasn't happened to me it means it's not true
Just you watch the uproar for plenty of games being deemed unplayable once the servers shutdown. Let's not forget games now have roadmaps even are single player games. Let's also add that to the list of people playing inferior versions of the games they bought.
Remember that Microsoft just wants to sell gamepass subs and the gamepass model for games is not good enough to buy but good enough to try. Wouldn't be surprised if there upcoming digital only console is their last one
Just a reminder that you don't own the game on the disc either technically. All you own is a license.
so if someone erases all of the data on the disc and gives it back to me, it's not theft? whoa
I will believe you when corps send goons to my house to take my games away.
They don’t have to, just turn off the download server that hosts the rest of the data not on the disc.
Wow, good thing i dont play games that require me to download half the game, nor is my hardware online.
https://www.cinemablend.com/games/Pokemon-X-Y-Bug-Corrupts-Saves-Here-How-Avoid-It-59999.html
Unless you only play PS2 games that isn’t a thing that exists anymore.
No, as always video game journalists take things out of context.
All of the recent firings are because of redundancies from the Activision purchase. Ganker is moronic and jumps to conclusions as always.
They laid off developers too moron, even COD devs and the entire odyssey dev team
>he doesn't understand how redundancies and acquisitions work
>moron continues to deny reality in order to defend a company.
They laid off devs from Toys for Bob, Sledgehammer, and an entire development team. Those weren't redundancies
They didn't lay off the Odyssey devs moron
They just disbanded the team and put them on different games
This is still a shitty moneygrubbing decision but at least the devs weren't canned
>They didnt lay them off
https://www.ign.com/articles/the-team-working-on-blizzards-now-canceled-survival-was-seemingly-gutted-amid-xbox-mass-layoffs
>trusting IGN
I trust them more than a moron on Ganker
Oh it's fricking nothing.
We've seen the leaked adorably all digital Series X revision. Everyone knows what they're doing.
Funny how it only happens with Nintendo and Microsoft.
>They might
That's not confirming that they will and let's not forget the starfield buyback. Xbox physical game sales dropped into a single digit percentage this gen and their next console is digital only. The writing is on the wall.
so what happened to that muh infinite Microdick money, Xbones?
I have bought maybe 5 physical games for my xbox and they never get played because digital is right there. Once I realized discs are nothing but glorified one use usbs, I gave up on the fight. We all lost when stores stopped carrying PC games and businesses agreed to pay monthly fees for excel instead of owning one copy of office and telling MS to frick off.
Physical tards think they are going to live forever and that their collections will last forever.
Both are wrong.
The shelf life of a Blu ray/DVD disc isn't much older than 20 years.
The Xbox 360 was introduced 18 years ago, which means in two years all those purchases you made online will actually have latest longer than physical.
Tick tock, Discies.
All my GameCube and Dreamcast discs still work. The only thing rotting is your brain.
Nope. Discs have a lifespan of 100+ years if properly taken care of and stored besides maybe CDR. Discs from the 80s are still working properly.
>muh discrot!
Fringe cases of poor manufacturing on stuff like laserdisc and poor storage conditions (aka living in some sweltering, humid arm-pit of a region).
>if properly taken care of and stored
>implying the normies are like that.
>
My ps1 discs are fine, my ps2 discs are fine, my gc discs are fine, modern discs are worse than old ones qualitywise, and my modern discs are actually fine. Take care of your shit, gay
>My ps1 discs are fine
I doubt this a million times over. PlayStation was notorious for cracking the doughnut hole of disks and so was the solid plastic cases. Not to mention the quality of the disk holders is barbaric by today's standards. So either you wern't playing the games or you're lying.
>I doubt this a million times over
>Not to mention the quality of the disk holders is barbaric by today's standards.
Like I said; take care of your shit, animal
So you didn't actually play your games. Thanks for confirming.
I did actually play my games, gay. You treated the plastic cases of your like they were made of metal, they weren't btw
I kept my games immaculate as a kid but didn’t know the israeliteel cases would literally turn to brown sludge in under a years time with no provocation. I lost a ton of out of print shit in the 2000’s. Unless you have your discs vacuum sealed in a clean room there are so many factors that destroy your collection.
>the israeliteel cases would literally turn to brown sludge in under a years time with no provocation.
I don't know what kind of strange conditions you're living in but that is not typical
I live in perfect conditions in the middle of the USA. No sunlight, no heater exposure. It is a well documented phenomenon that these companies used shit plastic that makes this sticky brown/black sludge in as little as a years time.
Citation needed
I think it is techmoan that breaks it down perfectly. Cheaper plastic excretes this shit fast and others slowly but they all do it within 20 years unless kept in a clean room. I know you are too fricking lazy to look it up yourself.
>they all do it within 20 years
Bro I have PS1 games that are over 20 years old and aren't full of brown sludge so I know you are full of shit.
>Cheaper plastic excretes this shit fast and others slowly but they all do it within 20 years unless kept in a clean room
Well, yeah. People complaining about it when in reality they're filthy fricks, the frick did they expect?
>It is a well documented phenomenon that these companies used shit plastic that makes this sticky brown/black sludge in as little as a years time.
I've seen israeliteel cases from decades ago just fine.
>My best friend is black and he never committed a crime
You argue like a woman
>didn’t know the israeliteel cases would literally turn to brown sludge in under a years time with no provocation
You're supposed to shelter from a storm, not live inside one
What should I do to make a physical collection of pirated PC games
I've been thinking about putting installers/ZIP files onto discs and making custom cases, but using flash drives seems cheaper and more convenient. What do you guys suggest?
>flash drives seems cheaper
What shithole are you shopping in? Even the worst thumb drives will cost $5 a pop
Burn to quality CDs or DVDs or BDs.
>what are the quality brands?
I don't know.
Preservation will be in digital format once it's digital it can be shared everywhere and emulation will make sure of that.
Even if the game is nonfunctional on a emulator downloading it and burning it to a blank disc will make it playable assuming you own the hardware. I don't see the big deal if we move to digital only formats. Jailbreak the console download the game to a thumb drive/hard drive install the patches manually and it's like nothing changed. Publisher being an butthole? Pirate it simple solution. Server shutdown? Jailbreak your console and install the games yourself.
This is something morons on the internet don't want to face; In perspective, nobody gives a single shit about preservation Hence the massive amount of remakes/remasters of below average quality
Those are publishers cashing in on nostalgia and the average Joe. People are autistic enough to back up and upload rips of games nowadays. Even if people don't care about preservation a group of autists will and those rips spread all over groups emulation sites torrents and other file sharing places.
>physical game department
so they'll only be publishing first party games digitally from now on? Their games probably sell best on PC anyway, so who cares?
NO, GET YOUR ASS BACK IN THE GAME! YOU SAID WE WERE GONNA SURVIVE TOGETHER, DIDN'T YOU?!
Can you see how your precious video game industry collapses? Abandon games, and live only for travel and luxury. Games induce only stress. Relax on a beach in Hawaii.
If they never release another game I will still be smashing monster with a hammer in 2070.
>travel
>inflated costs at hotels, flights and extra expenses
If only
>relatives were moronic with discs
>gave a buch of them in rough shape from israeliteel cases to discs
>Fifa98 for ps1 even had part of the disc missing
>all works
I think you're overblowing it. Or you'll never witness it at full power. That Fifa game suffered in fps but booted just fine surprinsingly
When it is caked in plastic sludge it can’t be read.
Clean the disc, tardo
>While none of this impacts digital gamers up front, it could impact them on the back end. If there is no physical market to compete with on price, digital game sales could become less frequent and less potent, making the expensive hobby even more expensive.
You ready to pay?
a fricking machine can burn a disc, how is this news? lmao
The Promise of the Xbone Came True
people were only upset about the xbox one due to society not being ready for digital consoles, same with the PSP go. the world has changed since both.
People are ready to own nothing now?
>ready
More like forced and conditionated
Basically. And if they gave money to it, they deserve it
also dont forget to buy your x360 store games before the store is shutdown
>mfw got Orta, Guardian Heroes and Yar's revenge
going to use one of those generator codes to blow $50 buck in the last ones I want and frick off
Shit I forgot about that.
What 360 only digital only games on there are worth buying?
Cloning Clyde.
...
they're doubling down on gamepass again?...
How bad is MS losing this gen?
Their fate was sealed at xbone reveal. This is just part of the copeout from consoles plan
A lot worse than they should be honestly
Switch's presumably last Holiday season sold better than XBox despite the latter having way better deals
Not at all. Only morons measure success in hardware sales when all the money is in software.
>Only morons measure success in hardware sales when all the money is in software.
And how are the xbox games doing btw?
https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/the-20-best-selling-games-of-2023-in-the-us/2900-4951/
1/4 of the best selling games of 2023 were Microsoft In an industry that is more saturated than ever.
Thanks for playing.
This is only by virtue of the fact that the ABK purchase was completed this year. Microsoft themselves had nothing to do with it
Those games will still be multiplat still, unless someone calling the shots at xbox hq suddenly becomes smart. Activision is not associated to xbox, neither Ninja Theory and they got bought years ago. In the end the Microsoft studios game are... irrelevant in every metric, even shrinking somehow
>you now remember the newest Halo
The Series X was down to $300-$350 during the holidays and still got outsold by the Switch that was selling at the exact same price point. So pretty damn bad.
Why is MS still putting out console hardware even?
>136 million
Jesus. PS2 is almost gone lmao
Way too many xbox and ps5 imo but next gen it should be lower but it's all good so far
>measures success in hardware sales
Did you know Microsoft became one of the biggest companies on earth and they didn't sell a single PC?
I'm so curious to see just how much money Microsoft can flush down the toilet while still achieving no notable success in the gaming industry. We've already seen from the Palworld tweets that gamepass is pathetically small and irrelevant compared to Steam. I wonder what the upper limit is... If ~80 billion isn't it, then what? 200 billion?
MS' deal is extending reach, by any means. It's an evil company for that same reason
There's only 2, you lying frick!
>There's only 2, you lying frick!
Call of Duty and Diablo are Microsoft titles, dumbo.
But please cope some more and move the goalposts again.
Multiplats, goalpost mover. CoD's bulk of players is on PS
My argument was that the money is in software. And your argument is that they're selling it on PS.... and making more money.
You're not very bright are you?
Kekking all the way to the bank. Thank you for playing!
>My argument was that the money is in software
And most of the money comes from PS versions due
as measure. Only Starfield qualifies properly, the others? xbox constitutes the smaller proportion
Holy shit your mind is rotten from playing too much PlayStation.
My argument: consoles sales are irrelevant, the money is software. (hardware rarely makes money and is even sometimes sold at a loss)
Your reply: But Microsoft sells that software on Playstation... and makes themselves even more money! Thus they are broke and bankrupt!
You are a genuine moron. Do yourself a favor and drop the PS worship.
>Holy shit your mind is rotten from playing too much PlayStation.
I have a 360, 3ds (hacked), Wii, DS, Ps1 and Ps2 (currently out of comission).
>My argument: consoles sales are irrelevant, the money is software. (hardware rarely makes money and is even sometimes sold at a loss)
Switch is not sold at loss, only thrid party model is like Sony & MS which is a clear mistake but they don't want to face it or rectify it. Leaving their possible profits on software and that relies entirely on the one that sells more consoles, which is PS between them. This translates in more consoles = more game units = more players on that system = more chance to keep milking them further. It can be Xbox... but they don't sell nearly as much consoles as sony's so Cod, Howarts and the likes have more players in there and more units sold
Nintendo is the only company that's had big success selling hardware for profit, and it's had some big failures (Wii U), and it also comes at the cost of outdated specs.
The video game market is more saturated than ever. There's mobiles, consoles, PC's (and all their offshoots). The money is releasing your games on all of these, not bolstering an ecosystem that resets every generation and has no guarantee of success.
Remember, the average PlayStation user played less than 5 hours A YEAR of call of duty. And most of their top games are sports shit.
There's no money in "owning" the Playstation ecosystem compared to releasing your shit everywhere to guaranteed sales.
>The money is releasing your games on all of these, not bolstering an ecosystem that resets every generation and has no guarantee of success.
Tell that to switch, wii before it.
Loved how you conveniently skipped the Wii U which decimates your entire argument.
Also forget the Gamecube and N64.
>Loved how you conveniently skipped the Wii U which decimates your entire argument.
Your passive-agressive banter won't work. Wii U might be the exception to the rule. Because there's also DS, GBA and 3DS (which saved a failure). Neither GC nor 64 were failures, just the impression due lower numbers compared to their massively succesful competition, also a very rare level of success.
Now I'll be nice and leave you space to use the Virtual boy as excuse
The Gamecube was not a success, come on. It was why Nintendo drastically changed direction the following generation.
All of this is besides the point anyway, because the argument is that Nintendo is the only company that's had any success doing it, and it's risky.
Microsoft and Sony aren't about to release generational old hardware for massive profits, because their strategies have always been selling software. Microsoft is just ahead of the curve in this respect.
>All of this is besides the point anyway, because the argument is that Nintendo is the only company that's had any success doing it, and it's risky.
It's not. Selling your systems at loss is, if it doesn't get traction you're fricked almost inmediately
You're fricking immediately (not almost) if you can't even sell generational old hardware at marked up costs.
Again, Nintendo is the only company to succeed in doing this, and has had some big failures.
>You're fricking immediately (not almost) if you can't even sell generational old hardware at marked up costs.
Not necesarily, you need to be smart in how you spend. Wii U was giving green numbers even in its full flop mode, because Nintendo is smart. Not because of getting behind on purpose, they could but they won't seeing how the ones doing it are performing and suffering
>There's no money in "owning" the Playstation ecosystem compared to releasing your shit everywhere to guaranteed sales.
IIRC the trial confirmed the money comes from microtransaction and the like, definetly more than xbox; more consoles, more active players, more money from it
PAJEETS!
>PAJEETS!
i wish people understood that india is by far the biggest shithole on the planet and it's by magnitudes
>IIRC the trial confirmed the money comes from microtransaction and the like, definetly more than xbox; more consoles, more active players, more money from it
You don't understand the point.
What's a bigger guarantee for making money:
>an ecosystem that resets every generation and only covers one manufacturer
>releasing your games everywhere, and reaping the profits from sales, dlc, microtransactions, etc. on every platform
People unironically are trying to argue that Microsoft selling Call of Duty hurts Microsoft. Protip; Microsoft does not care where you buy the Nicki Minaj skin pack for Call of Duty. They are making guaranteed money.
>What's a bigger guarantee for making money:
A platform where the most players are with dlc, sales, microtransactions
So PC then?
No. We're talking about game systems, not pc
Wrong. We are talking about software.
You keep moving the goalposts.
No matter how many times you slice it, Microsoft has the software game down.
They are on every single platform, they have a major platform in the form of Xbox, and they have monopoly on the PC market.
This idea that PlayStation monetarily better off because they have a few million Fifa/NBA/Madden drones in their ecosystem is outright moronic.
>Wrong. We are talking about software.
And PC isn't reliable in that regard.
>xbox
>major platform
Anon...
>This idea that PlayStation monetarily better off because they have a few million Fifa/NBA/Madden drones in their ecosystem is outright moronic.
PS is a better monetarily place is because they have better numbers on games that xbox also has
>PS is a better monetarily place is because they have better numbers on games that xbox also has
That's not how it works and it's obvious you're a PlayStation fanboy stuck in this console war mindset.
There's a reason PlayStation has moved to PC.
>That's not how it works and it's obvious you're a PlayStation fanboy
Love it at how you mention at every ps mention
>There's a reason PlayStation has moved to PC.
And that's proof PS money isn't there since the low playerbase they have. Just like Xbox's to PS, it's simple
>proof PS money isn't there since the low playerbase they have
That's why their CEO just said they are committing to bigger PC releases. lol
And their CEO got out due how disconnected was
Oh no no no no... Someone didn't update you on your script.
https://www.pcworld.com/article/2215448/playstation-boss-says-games-are-coming-to-pc-mobile-and-cloud.html
Please go back to the drawing board and come up with some better arguments. Thanks.
Yes, GaaS. Just like MS, what's the issue?
I don't think I've argued with anyone more dense.
The money is in software and releasing your content on more platforms. Sony agrees. You are stuck in a 20 year old mindset. Sorry.
You're the dense, buddy. For the 7th time; xbox brings the less money.
Wrong again
https://qz.com/microsofts-xbox-will-leapfrog-sonys-playstation-for-the-1851035237
I love how you keep moving the goalposts and yet you are still wrong every single time. This is quite fun.
I don't see how that post would require a whiteknight tier post link
>2023
nah
>it doesn't count because it just doesn't ok!
I accept your concession. Better luck next time.
I'm surprised you're pulling that memearrow this far tbqh.
This homie still trying to justify buying a Series S to himself
if microsoft tries going full-digital they are going to be hanging their hat up very shortly into the console generation, playstation isn't learning from it yet and they're wrestling with the same issue that xbox is with the series s: nobody wants the fricking system that you can't buy a game at the store with, and this is with the series s holding a reputation as being an emulator machine through dev mode because that's all it's really good for
Holy copium, batman. People already download games on pc, physical discs will die, and anyone who says otherwise is going to wind up looking like those people who thought personal computers were a fad
nobody cares what PC is doing, digital-only consoles are failing *right now* even when presented as a budget option
sony and microsoft are out of touch; they raced for graphics without realizing the problem with that and don't understand that PC and consoles are completely different as well as the mind of their users, this is something that hasn't changed in over 20 years and giving signs of becoming more blatant
>source
>trust me bro
Microsoft themselves said it
post it then. Post the quote where microsoft says that they will close down the development of physical disks. Every fricking week we have fake xbox rumors and no ever backs up their claims
Yes, but it's Xbox, so nobody cares
>Gets rid of physical games
>still costs $70
FRICK THE GAMING INDUSTRY
>waaaa inflation shouldn't apply to games waaaaaa
It shouldn’t. Games are cheaper and easier to make now than ever. They require next to zero r&d as engines are all loicensed now instead of built from scratch. If they are in house, they are milked like creation engine, re engine, or frostbite and hardly ever updated even if they don’t fit the game genre. Meshs and rigging is done for you. Art? Ai now. There is no reason games aren’t 20 dollars outside of all the corpo middle men who claim to be in marketing. Disposable toys don’t deserve high price tags.
It doesn't look like it.
>$70
>$60
digitalcucks are getting what they didn't know they want
>outsource
>outsource
>outsource
>outsource
just what we need more of
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
>Sonytendo kills Sega
>Jump ship to Microsoft
>Sonytendo kills Microsoft
It's happening all over again. Why is it happening all over again. Make it stop
Areyoume
>haha they might have killed Sega but they can't kill an american company!
>the american company kills their own brand
Its just not fair. Now I'll never get to see Sonic get married
You will pay billionaires 100$ to play the latest ESG-approved goyslop and you will own nothing. There is nothing more despicable than "gamers".
Don't care still subbed to gamepass
>giving money to Microsoft
Hard cringe bro
Just bought an emulation station x, whats a good site to see how to get it set up
Microsoft really only cares about game pass releases lol
I think they'll give up after the Series X. Subscriptions aren't growing
>he fell for the Matt Pisscatella fake news
moron
>Physical Xbox games
I'd be more worried if Sony fired it's entire physical game team since I imagine more people buy physical playstation games over xbox games, and same for Nintendo Switch games. I know a guy that buys all physical, specifically Nintendo Switch games. He has like 60+ physical Nintendo Switch games.
>console can just not let you play anyway if you're not cleared to use the game via license or whatever else
It's been over since 2005.
you will own nothing and be happy
Is it any good?
its fun with friends, by itself not so much
nope, still own the original copy of the game
>that horrible tearing on og xbox games
Completely fricks over anyone who still doesn't have high-speed internet access. I feel sorry for rural gamers.
its over for xbox
why, what happened?
nothing for over a decade, thus the post
I've been try to sound the alarm since 2016. I know none of you will listen. If you work in burbank I want to let you know that over 80k people will lose their job. By the end of the year. These jobs will not be coming back to North America. It is over.
Reminder that it should be the states responsibility to force console manufacturers to offer physical.
Sony bros.... We won
This fricking industry needs a reset ASAP, something worse than the old collapse of the market before the NES needs to happen
Out of the 400 employees that work at our studio, only 30% of them will have a job in the next 14 days. 50% of them will never receive contracts from us again or anyone else in the gaming industry ever again.
I love how cucked consolegays are. Zoomers, and Alpha-betas have no concept of ownership and deserve everything they DONT get.
lol
lmao even
What about the metaphysical game department?
I think this is great because I am obese and hate changing discs. I started to buy everything digital since 2018
I’m buying a PS5 soon, should I go for digital or disc slot?
I haven’t used a disc in years so not sure if there’s any point. The hardware is the same, and even the physical games you buy still have to download and install content to work right?
I believe Nintendo and Sony will follow soon.
I haven't bought physical in like 7 years man.
why do people still buy xbox after the 360?
Only good thing about the Xbox is the controllers, the controller is so well designed that the sticks won't usually give out like sony controllers or the buttons won't fly off because they are well engineered and they have 0% chance to fly out even during intensive gaming.
Funny. Sony controllers are designed for little kids that can't put any force by accident into the buttons.
Palworld machine for the living room. Why, what's the point of owning a PS5 these days? Being able to play shitty movie games 5 months before their Steam release?
fake Sony cultist made article
>dug up my 360 the other day
>all my physical titles work just fine
>all of my digital titles are the demo version now
fun times ahead boys
SSDs are the new physical
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/ssds/ssd-prices-predicted-to-skyrocket-throughout-2024
the israelite wont let you have local storage anymore anon.
you gotta be a good goy and buy the cloud.
you vill buy ze cloud gamepass und yu vill be happy
I am kneeling, ps5 chads
Get used to not owning Xbox games.
>so it's literally and legitimately over?
For physical media? Yes with the exception of occasional boutique releases.
Not sure why this is a surprise to anyone when people are so comfortable with steam existing
You will own nothing and you will be happy
Realistically they probably looked at how many games:
>can't be played without an online account
>can't be played without 50GB of patches
>are just a download code on the disc with no actual game anyway
and other such trends and said "frick it let's just cut out the middle man".
They probably also looked at some metric of how many people use the disc drive vs other ways of getting data into the device and, being a business, decided not to care about the less than 50% of users who actually use physical media because it's cheaper to build things without disc drives (+ fewer moving parts = fewer failure points = fewer customer service issues) and to run a games industry without physical media infrastructure. It would be a huge cost savings from their perspective.
Plus it kills the resell/secondary games market going forward