Starfield

It won't be day one because of denuvo.

Every recent Bethesda game had Denuvo. Starfield is no exception.

Yet.

Denuvo would prevent script extenders to work, so modding would be pretty limited.

None of us know for sure, but there's good reason to think it won't have Denuvo, because of their statements about moddingl. Lets talk again in 2 weeksm otherwise its just you arguing out your ass.

>You can still mod denuvo games
Yes, you can swap assets like any other game, but no denuvo game has script extenders that hook onto the binary to access game logic at runtime and tamper with it. That's pretty much exclusive to the creation engine. I don't know where you got that from.

The core of bethesda modding revolves around script extenders, Black person. You can't inject new functions into the binary at runtime when denuvo's entire purpose is to obfuscate all base functions behind hundreds of virtualized copies of them and prevent people from tampering with that.

cope

The majority of mods are basic asset swaps. However the most downloaded mods, those that are invariably used in all modded skyrim playthroughs, use at least one or more SKSE plugin.

Your mother has denuvo

>Go tell that to Bethesda.
tell them what? It's just you pulling shit from your ass. stop acting like your delusions are set in stone

>I have no actual proof and no game by BGS has ever used denuvo, and they said they'll treat modding as a priority, and they themselves have made zero mention of it but it will have denuvo because I say so

There's no coping moron. It likely won't have denuvo but if it does then they are a bunch of c**ts. You think it will have denuvo. OK? So maybe you're right but likely not. What more to sday except shut the frick up?

I AM CALM

I told you to shut the frick up

How about precedence?
None of their previous games have DRM.
Excluding 76, online game.

Christ you're fricking dumb

You're just saying the same thing over and over, are you broken?

You're just saying the same thing over and over, are you broken?

Get a room, gaybos.

Cope

>they've never tried to block off free mods with creation club
they have literally tried to do that with Fallout 4 by removing the mod browser from the launcher

how does that block off mods? No one uses that for modding

they still tried to block off mods even if unsuccessfully
with starfield they could try that again, and do a better job

how does that block off mods? No one uses that for modding

>and publishers don't care abut mods that are outside of Creation Club.
>how to kill your game in one easy step

The majority of mods don't use SKSE.

I accept your concession.

Or call on the exe. Which is what script extenders do, and is why you cannot run them on Gaypass with shit like Skyrim and Fallout. You pull that, and it's game over. Bye bye. There is no Denuvo.

> There is no Denuvo listing.
> hurrRR cOpE rEEEtaaad
The absolute state of slurpers these days.

Starfrick is basically if a botched troony axe wound was a "video game". Another one of Todd's Turds.

Sorry, does it remind you of your own?

>t. Scamfield Shitgame Todd Turd Sucker buyers

looks fantastic don't know what you're on about

>it's about a presence that transcends the mere visuals. Starfield looks like design by committee, nobody poured its soul into any of it.
I strongly disagree with this. I really like the way the tech looks in Starfield.

Here's how it really happened:
>there's no real creative process, just a creative vision that limits creativity
>every design is vetted by at least 6 people that will ensure there's nothing offensive about it to any culture in the world
>the design is then realized by at least 5 people that will work on the mesh, textures, lighting, physics, gameplay interactions, technical constraints, levels of details, and overall cohersion with the global style
>it's then vetted again by the same 6 people

After so many processes, it's soulless.

>You're describing all video games and large projects.

This is Dishonored. It's soulful.

Not every creative process has to be like this, some studios give their artists more freedom which leads to more soul. But at this point they're more worried the health bar may be of a tint of red that's offensive to Thailand's northern Lanna culture in relation to the Tai Yai's liberation, so they have to modify it to a Pantone 1925 in order to not trigger noodle cooks. That's the harsh reality of it.

You're really reaching but Dishonored is incredibly faithful to its concept art.

>concept art
It's not concept art strictly speaking, it's a promotional image. The concept is final at this point. But indeed, Dishonored's style is madly cohesive and its graphics really do honor to its art, with this drawn/painted texture to them.

I never said Starfield's artwork was soulful to begin with. It's quite generic and boring, and not really "concept art" material considering how little it shows. It looks more like shit artists did in their free time. The only things that show something are city vistas and settlements, they're not very soulful either.

No one ever denied that you have low standards.

Looks like Generic Settlement Concept Art #12727387 you'd find on ArtStation. Not bad, technically competent, but utterly forgettable. Now compare this to other Bethesda games like Skyrim and even their Fallout games and you'll see how they mop the floor with Shartfield's uninteresting art direction

That’s not what concept art is. It encompasses every visual that makes up the game. It is the games soul and source.
>it’s just… le drawings of le space
And you’re le fricking stupid.

>That’s not what concept art is
Okay. That's not concept art:

>You're describing all video games and large projects.

This is Dishonored. It's soulful.

Not every creative process has to be like this, some studios give their artists more freedom which leads to more soul. But at this point they're more worried the health bar may be of a tint of red that's offensive to Thailand's northern Lanna culture in relation to the Tai Yai's liberation, so they have to modify it to a Pantone 1925 in order to not trigger noodle cooks. That's the harsh reality of it.

So how long have you worked as a professional colorist for high budget film and or video games?

Not really, more like ridicule and dismiss because no competence.

Seems like you just don't like high graphical fidelity.

>Panel 1
You’re absolutely moronic fallout 4 was the only game to not use that Oblivion half body conversation style, it had dynamic angles and cuts back and forth between npc and Player dialogue. The fact you associate it with the dialogue wheel means you have no clue what you’re talking about.

Assuming it runs well and isn't broken, yeah.
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>Starfield looks like design by committee, nobody poured its soul into any of it
I'm not even getting that vibe a little bit

shame, it looks like Starfield is only gonna be great for screenshot simulator but otherwise just slightly improved F4 which was already dogshit

>but as long as I can "make my own adventure" with Exploration and improved F4 gun-play mechanics at least for me it would be worth it, who doesn't want to wander around and shoot a giant land octopus?
Yeah see, that's kind of the issue.

I love space games, I really do. But we've been seeing for quite some time now that they can't offer many varied adventures unless they have the mechanics to support them. There's theoretically an unlimited array of possibilities, just think about Doom, Dead Space, System Shock, Chronicles of Riddick, Aliens, Event Horizon, Starship Troopers... all of these scenarios could happen in a single game.

If, and only if, the game supports these mechanics:
>EVA
>limited oxygen supply
>spacesuit breach
>hull breach
>airlocks
>life support systems
>fuel tanks and fires
>fire propagation
>water tanks and flooding
>radiation
>heat dissipation
>extreme weather conditions
>meteorite showers
>space communications and NPCs picking them up
>distress signals
>radars and sensors
That's just for starters, and Starfield won't have 10% of that. You'll just find settlements that are basically reskinned Skyrim dungeons, kill some space pirates, and find some space loot.

>distress signals
a space settlement needs your help
>radars and sensors
so a fricking map? you think theyre not putting in a map?
>limited oxygen supply
>spacesuit breach
>hull breach
>life support systems
>fuel tanks and fires
>fire propagation
>water tanks and flooding
>heat dissipation
>radiation
muh survival mechanics that just mean Ill have to resupply every hour
>airlocks
immersion fluff, probably mad about ladders

you literally want a sim
>but muh possibilities
so youre asking for a game thats doing what 10 games did except in these 10 games each mechanic was tailored to the experience individually
imagine how annoying Doom would be with radiation or managing your oxygen supply

tell me that picture is not real

It's a photoshop of the Train sequence in Fallout 3. And it works. It also works quite well. Needless to say the Creation Kit for Starfield isn't even remotely anywhere, so I would ask you to put a hold on lying, and maybe just try killing yourself because you really do sound mentally unwell.

Dude, like what the frick was that even?

one off

I hope I can build a space station. They haven't shown it, so I'm going to assume not, but maybe in a mod

lmao they couldnt even figure out vehicles on land, what makes you think they will pull off anything cool

people are really tired of the goyslop and anything but outright rejection is met with ridicule.

>find some derelict ship
>get on board hoping to find some loot
>oh shit aliens
>fighting ensues
>crew member takes them out with a grenade
>destroys airlock and ship's drive
>need new part for engine
>attempt to salvage parts from derelict
>more aliens attack
>your suit gets punctured
>retreat behind an airlock with small air supply
>use ship sensors to scan for a ship nearby
>spot pirates
>send a distress signal knowing they'll pick it up
>progress slowly inside derelict airlock after airlock
>manage to lead aliens against them
>fire erupts on the ship
>vent it along with pirates
>take a risky space walk with punctured spacesuit to pirate ship
>steal their ship and escape
>land in some shoddy space station
>try to find a bigger ship to frick off back home
>get hired on a pirate ship
>conspire to kill everyone on board and steal it
>turns out there's an infiltrated cop among the crew
>tells you about a bounty to get them alive

I could go on all night. This is what we could have. And we won't have it unless we have all the mechanics to support it.

Shill post

Stanfield has more than ten percent of that.

Nice Star Citizen screenshots
Now show us the Starfield stuff

>space
>its colorful
>not devoid of light
>because its literally a fricking void that's the whole point of space

If you're not interested in depicting space realistically for a realistic space game, don't market it as one

>empty is void therefore should be a dark screen
What?

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Lmao Americans

Really shitty bait from a literal NEET.
How does it feel to be the embodiment of Plato's Cave?

(you)

Holy frick I really pity city dwellers who will NEVER in their life see space as it really is.
You probably believe these pictures are photoshopped, while in reality that's how space really looks like away from light pollution (i.e. cities).

Remember when in 1994 there was a blackout in Los Angeles and hundreds of people called 911 because they thought aliens were invading us, when in reality they were seeing space for the first time in their lives.

Space is full of light and colours; you've been staring at a black screen all your life because of the lampposts outside your cave.

t. has never been outside of a city and seen what the night sky actually looks like

When I was young my parents took me out on vacation to a village in the middle of nowhere. I sat in front of a fire in the night, looked up and became fricking terrified of the sky.
It wasn't as bright as here

Holy frick I really pity city dwellers who will NEVER in their life see space as it really is.
You probably believe these pictures are photoshopped, while in reality that's how space really looks like away from light pollution (i.e. cities).

Remember when in 1994 there was a blackout in Los Angeles and hundreds of people called 911 because they thought aliens were invading us, when in reality they were seeing space for the first time in their lives.

Space is full of light and colours; you've been staring at a black screen all your life because of the lampposts outside your cave.

but I could see then entire galaxy and dust clouds and shit. It was spooky.
It's crazy that this is what out ancestors used to see every night.

>the cloudy looking star off to the right is Andromeda.
Just fricking imagine the sheer size of that monstrosity if you can actually make out it's shape at that kind of distance from us.

Does it have any porn stars in it? Also, any cats?

>the absolute state of Ganker

>esl
How many languages do you speak anon?

>Only two, but I don't go around arguing poorly in my second language
Oh my god we stepped into the boundaries of the language authority!!! In /v of all places.

>Only two, but I don't go around arguing poorly in my second language
Oh my god we stepped into the boundaries of the language authority!!! In /v of all places.

and its "on", not "into"

>>how many websites do you fricking shit up by being a moron talking to natives in your broken second language?
As many as I can get my filthy fingerprints on I take pride on it.

>make a no man's sky ripoff
>only make 10% of the planets actually fit in with the nms gameplay loop
>ummmmmmm but you can mine on barren planets!!! that's content!!!!

>One of the things I didn't like about No Man's Sky is the fact that most of the planets have life, and even the supposedly dead worlds had the same copy pasted subterranean ecosystem.
I have the same problem, nothing in NMS makes sense, lifeless rocks full of life, frozen planets being all the same, idiotic atmospheric conditions that make no sense, no respect for distance-to-the-sun conditions planets, dense asteroid fields everywhere that are impossible, etc.

>make a no man's sky ripoff
Starfield is an action-RPG not a survival crafting game.
Stop saying stupid shit, they aren't the same kind of games.

>moving the goalposts
You don't need to know much about video games to understand how a procedural universe simulator/glorified wallpaper simulator is different from a real game.

>knows nothing about video games
>knows a lot about gay sex
Bethdrones.

Space engine was developed by a single russian in a basement and is more technically impressive than anything beth and company have ever made and its easier to ask if its an RPG made by bethesda than to compare it as 2 products.

> This orbit simulator is totally a video game, bro!

>check out elite dangerous if you want more under the hood than what Starfield offers
Holy delusion Batman

dude I've seen plenty of Elite Dangerous gameplay. I would never call it soulless but it's extremely shallow.

>this game made by an extremely capable developer is bad and shallow

Be honest, you never actually played Elite dangerous did you? Otherwise you would know the constant blunders and bad ideas Frontier has been delivering for years now. The gunplay alone in Odyssey is worse than what Fallout 4 had, and to this day they have not managed to fix the massive fps drops in most planets.

I don't even know why people are comparing Elite dangerous to Starfield, ED is a space sim, Starfield has marketed itself very openly about NOT being a space sim, but a rpg with sci fi themes. If anything, Mass effect would be a better comparison to Starfield.

I mean, really, if you played Mass effect, you already know what Starfield is going to deliver.

> gone home but with loading screens???
Probably not???????

No one has claimed the first 4.
I hate fat autistic neck beards like you so much. Eternally dissatisfied and angry about everything, yet addicted to it. Imagine wasting hours of your day imaging scenarios to get mad at about a game you apparently hate that you’ve never played and don’t want to play.

have a nice day you fricking waste of oxygen.

>be disingenuous
>throw a fit when no one gives a shit about your attention whoring bullshit
Suck my dick

A video game about having an adventure in space with a role played character you create and define.

Wow, that was tough.

So you’re no longer confused about what the game is?

Why are fat virgin neck beards so annoying? Is this the depth of their social skills?

Where did I say it was my favorite game though? Is it possible for you to behave in a non-hyperbolic manner without the constant irrational emotional reactivity?

You should Jill yourself because your entirely identity is b***hing about video games that aren’t even playable yet online for hours.

>all because i asked "what is this fricking game"
drones man....

now thats a sales pitch. What made mass effect work were its characters, writing and pretty rigid RPG experience of having to chose what type of character you will make similiar to dragon age or kotor. I dont think bethesda can match that

it was a good explanation.

>Jill yourself

>you have no idea what youre going to be doing 99% of the time is just traversing empty planets.
What makes you think this is the case? You would have to intentionally play like this.
In reality we already know you can fast travel back to your ship from anywhere, go back to space, look for markers on other planets in the same system or another, then drop down and do whatever location or quest its attached to.
That's not even considering the main quest, cities, faction quests, etc.
Why do people see an image of a planet's landscape in this game and have this kneejerk assumption that they'll be forced at gunpoint to comb its entire surface to find a crumb of content? If anything Bethesda games are too loud about where content is with their compasses and markers yet now suddenly the opposite is the problem, even though the game still has both.

youre off the meds and thats fine but im just enjoying the fact that most drones have never played a space game and have no idea what theyre in for.

Spoiler: its boring, mostly empty travel and the fun comes from stats and numbers (bethesda hates stats and numbers)

anon... screensaver is a fantasy adventure game.... im so sorry...
>perks means its an RPG
why do casuals think this?

so fornite is just 1 dialog option away from being a HARDCORE RPG

why are casuals like this? It needs to have attributes, stats, and defined classes to be an RPG. Good morning sir.

So fornite is an RPG even though it doesnt have dialog options?

can i answer irrelevent questions? no. What does an isometric RPG made in the 90s have to do with a 2023 fantasy game?

Why are casuals like this

Do you think tods turds are on par with Fallout 1 and 2?

Sure if you are actually interested Fallout 1 and 2 didnt have classes correct. This was something they omitted because it was heavily, intensely focused on the story and your role within it. Far beyond than something beth could ever dream. For example in Fallout 2 you had to actually learn why the masters plan would fail, it wasnt just a speech check you had to actually remember that mutants cant repopulate and have proof from a lab that could let you defeat the master without fighting. Its my favorite screen in any video game. The game is focused on providing a linear story and giving you options within that would either cause you to straight up lose the game, giving you a game over or letting you solve the problem in unique ways. It didnt have classses was trying omit that part of RPGs to polish the other aspects.

On the flip side bethesda simply removed the complicated RPG aspects and focused more on providing an adventure game style, removing attributes and stats entirely and essentially completely removing the dynamic dialog options, choices, karma, and overall quality writing. At this point is more similiar to a ubisoft game than an RPG. Sadly for some no, Farcry isnt an RPG either.

I mean for Fallout 3's case yes, considering how much effort went into transitioning the series into a First/Third person open world that redefined a lot of old Fallout. Fallout 3's story was subpar but it wasn't awful and the dialogue was still pretty entertaining and interesting, its only real problem was the fact that they decided to frick off to east coast which in retrospect was them not wanting to step on any toes and get some more creative freedom. Fallout 3 was a good game, was it a 10/10? 9/10? no 8/10? arguable but it good.

wow that's the worst argument I've seen all thread champ

Is there any indication that this won't be just another looty shooty-centric like Fallout 4? I like that the Far Harbor writer is the lead quest designer at least.

Why are you expecting anything different? It's fallout 4 in space which is better because space is actually interesting. If you want a semi-realistic take on sci-fi then play it. It's not going to be a Shakespearean story and you're going to end up shooting a lot of bad guys.

>says game is hardcore
>removes ship fuel as a resource players need to be concerned with in their space exploration rpg
What did Todd-sama mean by this?

AH, so it's going to be a generic space shooter with no depth, nice to know.

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to futher clarify this anon's opinion.
Panel 1 - The typical fallout/tes half-zoomed face pose. Graphic fidelity is of course 1-2 gens behind. To make it "soulful", i dunno, at least put in some new fricking camera angles or something? I see this and think "yay, can't wait for the yes, yes-sarcistic, no(yes) dialogue boxes.
Panel 2 - looks like generic space crafter steam store image #435623653
Panel 3 - its a UI. They're both kinda generic imo
Panel 4 - Yay cool a wienerpit view - that no one will ever use because you can't see shit. Only screenshot gays care.
Panel 5 - purely a gfx comparison. I think the UI of the newer is way better in a functionally measure, but personally the "this looks like an html5 floating popup" generic UI element shit is beyond amateur. They couldnt make the Ship-Hull Icon in the lower right look a little bit more stylized? I haven't looked at much but I bet the inventory UI is generic as frick like this too. Lemme guess - tons of wasted screen space too?
Panel 6 - i don't think its an apt comparison screenshot. One is a story panel and the other just a wideshot of orbit-space. The new one doesn't excite me cuz its been done before. And the design choice is just a mishmash of current real tech + their copy-paste room meshes stapled on.
its nitpicking on some of them, but combined together its "soulless" and reaks of decision by board meeting with the "good" parts them being lucky or the rare actual talented dev in the see of diversity hires

>generic generic generic
You've been so inundated with sci-fi your whole life that it's impossible for you to think any of it is original. Saw someone wearing a vest in Starfield, but Han Solo wore a vest so meh game looks generic and mid fr fr ong.

no it really isn't

>Do you really think the publisher cares about script extender more than they care about profits?
Modding is pretty much free assets/ideas/gameplay mechanics from the community, so yeah that's a good bargain.

I was actually thinking of equlibrium but I couldn't remember the name. Love that movie. But this game is not silly and will have nothing silly in it like dual wielding kung fu gun kata

You are angered, pants shidded, farded, entirely poobed.
It is known.