Who are these fricking made up people
What a useless shitty timeline. Absolutely meaningless information. Like if I told you Zard Zoglaf became manager of space burger king in 2345
You're right. The main characters should have been Elon Musk, Nikolandroid Tesla, and a clone of Neil DeGrasse Tyson. All these made of people I dont even know is fricking stupid
I suspect your post might have been meant with irony but I earnestly agree. The game would be far, far more interesting and more people would be talking about it.
I suspect your post might have been meant with irony but I earnestly agree. The game would be far, far more interesting and more people would be talking about it.
I'm willing to bet there'll be some side character called Elong Musq or some shit
>I DONT READ BOOKS AT ALL EVER BECAUSE IT MESSES UP MY ADHD AND IM BLACKPILLED SO I DONT TAKE ANY PILLS ACTUALLY WHATSOEVER BECAUSE ITS ALL BIG PHARMA POISON TO CONTROL US
okay schizoid, the rest of us here likes reading lore in our games, sorry it fricks up your dyslexia or something
Its completely meaningless lore because you have no idea who these people are or why you should give a shit that they joined whatever group on whatever date so why even present it like that. At this point why shoudl I give a shit that Andreja joined the constipation in 22338
>WHY READ A FICTION BOOK NONE OF ITS REAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL
Look again Schizoid, we know that you struggle reading because you're an ADHD aspie with dyslexia who grew up on tablets and watching videos at 2x speed on youtube, but the rest of us like lore.
>you dont like this banal tripe >you must hate reading
I'm looking forward to the game but there's nothing interesting about that timeline in anyway. You like this lore that you're seeing here? Does it excite you to know that Andreja joined constipation in 223423? Really makes you think that doesn't it. Such lore. God I'm gonna be awake all nnight pondering the ins and outs of all that.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. You hate reading.
Your justification for disliking this is "ITS POINTLESSS AGHHH"
so you must hate any and all fiction, which means you're an utter homosexual that should leave the medium of videogames behind and have a nice day
He touched it, just like you get the whoosh thing when you touch it. Except you're special and get the whoosh thing when you touch all of them, and everyone else only gets it once. Except the big bad guy who shows up to try to steal all your pieces of your magic multi-axis trainer.
It's an artifact of non-human construction that predates humanity that alone makes it "special". It doesn't need to do or be anything else. Phrasing it like that makes it sound like somebody found it and although they thought to catalog and keep it, they didn't think it was important or profound or interesting or worth study in any other capacity.
No, no, I'm saying you're special, not the piece you touch, because other people only get the experience from it once, they don't understand that the pieces are connected until later, which is also what the timeline shows. Someone got one, had the experience, logged the piece, and then the black guy you meet in the trailer figures they must connect and might unlock the terrible secret of space, and starts looking for either something or someone that can bridge them all into one object, which turns out to be you.
But despite their flaws (asimovs early works have flat characters, heinlein could not shut up about his fetishes,etc) classic sci fi had far more depth and creativity compared to post-kirkbride bethesda.
Far harbor though was decently written, and the writer for that dlc is doing this, so this game will likely be better than fallout 4 albeit not worth the hype.
Why don't these specify on tech advancements?
That's the cool part of space.
When did humanity achieve SSTO? When were rockets deemed obsolete? When and how was FTL achieved?
I remember it being a plotpoint for Cowboy Bebop. The first warpgate exploded and took out the Moon in the process hence why most of the show sticks around Mars and small orbital stations.
All of this is extremely generic and bland. If I were a teenager with limited exposure to science fiction, I would probably find this compelling, but I'm not and it just does nothing for me.
There are still people who shoot black power in the 2023. Besides, there isn't much you can do with conventional firearms, armies just put shit load of electronics on a 60 y.o. designs
>Humans arrive at the Noro-Santari system is 4537392 >Jeff Rickman founds the freesun collective in 17273 >ARS systems develop gravitational traveling in 274738 >Trns-Str and Quiksilver initiate a corporate merge in 17172 >Master Cheebf arrives in Sanghelios on christmas eve
Its just a bunch of fricking names and shit involving space corporations. None of this is compelling in anyway.
why should I be remotely interested in who joins constellation? They haven't given nearly enough information about it for me to look at this and go
"OH MY GOD GLUP SHITTO SHOOK HANDS WITH CEO GENERAL ELECTRIC AND HIS DAUGHTER WASHER DRYER"
If you're going to name fictional characters, tell me about Starfield's Amerigo Vespucci or Thomas Edison
>They haven't given nearly enough information
That's the fricking point of the timeline you moron. You take in this information, then later you can soiface about new information you discover in game.
I hate this ironic vulgar talk people do these days, its so fricking cringey. Why do you all try so hard for attention, its pathetic.
also >reddit
please leave
NASA claimed that's a ship from 1967 that crashed on the moon. It's pretty much the same shape as the rockets they used, just with some holes in it and the needle at the front broken off.
Doesn't look in any way like a Saturn V.
Besides, this thing was 110 meters tall, whatever that is on the Moon is more than 3km long and 400 meters tall.
Because no one ever talks about it.
Just look up the region it's located in, Delporte-Izsak.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Because no one ever talks about it.
No one ever talks about it because the whole apollo 20 spaceship alien city mona lisa thing is a prank whose author admitted having made up the entire thing 15 years or so ago.
Yeah, a tightly angled rock made out of a reflective metal.
Doesn't look in any way like a Saturn V.
Besides, this thing was 110 meters tall, whatever that is on the Moon is more than 3km long and 400 meters tall.
I don't speak Fr*nch you cheese eating surrender monkey!
>conspiracytards are too dumb to use google translate, let alone speak more than one language
alright anons, there totally is an ancient spacecraft that we're gonna take apart in 50 years when we go back to the moon and we're gonna have star trek irl for realsies, banging catgirls and asari left and right
That's the thing that stuck out to me too.
It's literally "we put man on mars and lol now we're colonizing the universe" without any explanation of anything.
You'd think there would be a bullet point at like 2099 that says >XYZ developed a new technique or discovered ancient alien tech that allows our spacecrafts to shield the humans on board from radiation, small debress, and the g's of near FTL travel
Legitimately that single lack of a bullet point has killed a lot of interest i had in this game.
What, did everyone just forget? That's fricking stupid, you set up this future timeline then immediately spit in the face of it and look backwards, that's asinine.
Ecological disaster of some kind. What it was caused by who knows. Not go8ng to include it in the timeliness because it's a mystery within the game for the player to discover.
People all started to use Ganker as a platform for advice, and this lead to several gender, race, religion, cuckold and AI wars to a point where Earth become uninhabitable from all the dumb homosexualry
>Starfield is a part of the Fallout universe >Mundus can be stumbled upon in a primordial state
That's one way to shut both fandoms up for the next few years until their games come out.
Maybe during the endgame sequence you use an artifact to choose a jumping point. Blue takes you to Elderscrolls, Green takes you to Fallout and Red takes you to The 10th Planet.
>Pre-war U.S. government lands on Mars >Enclave begins planning for the apocalypse, intending to travel to Alpha Centauri (this part is already canon in Fallout) >Great War happens >A branch of the Enclave make it off-world and travel to Alpha Centauri, founding the United Colonies in 2159 (shortly before Fallout 1)
Nirn and by extension the entirety of that universe is within the dreams of a dead god. The stars are holes in the world where magika flows in from beyond the veil, and there is nothing beyond it.
According to Will Shen we'll find out throughout the main story. But based on the trailer and the direct it seems like atleast 95% of it is an unhabitable wasteland, with some landmarks still standing.
Do we normally see big games have no outside footage/previews 2 weeks before it launches? It's all been in house footage so far, as good as that deep dive was.
It means they're really confident about their game selling without massive shilling and spoiling of the detaIls. The deep dive is already enough to get people to buy.
It's often a big red flag for most devs, but Bethesda does this with both good and bad games they publish, so it's not really noteworthy in either direction yet.
Also, friendly reminder that it's a Bethesda game so it'll be good, not great, and the feeling of depth will gradually decline as you play. Enjoy it for what it is, but don't expect more than a 7 or 8 out of 10.
>It doesn't HAVE to have ground vehicles >It doesn't HAVE to have water falls >It doesn't NEED to have real directional lighting that effects the enviroment. >It doesn't need to have life on more than 10% of planets >It doesn't need a modern engine. >It doesn't matter that the dialogue is porn tier quality. >It doesn't need aquatic vehicles. >It doesn't need to have expressive dialogue animations. >It doesn't NEED to be more than 30 fps on consoles. >It doesn't need fallout 4's character body customizer. >It doesn't need flyable ships in a planets atmosphere. >It doesn't need playable alien races despite 10% of planets having life. >It doesn't need good gunplay. >It doesn't matter the collectors edition doesn't come with a disc >It doesn't need to have interesting world designs. >It doesn't MATTER that those 1000 worlds are all randomly generated.
>>It doesn't NEED to have real directional lighting that effects the enviroment.
Oh that is one thing it definitely does have. Software RTGI. Cell wide. Across the entire skydome. I hope you bought a GPU with lots of Vram. You... did, get enough Vram, ri... oh.
>2050 - We've reached Mars >2156 - We are now in another galaxy
What the frick happened in that 100 years? Whatever happened there is the most significant piece of human history ever achieved and they don't even acknowledge it, this is the sort of top quality writing I've come to expect from Bethesda.
>Anon can't do basic extrapolation to figure it out
Anyone who has seen the direct and still questions how humanity got to Alpha Centauri is a complete moron.
>took tens of thousands of years for humans to spread across the earth only takes one century to spread beyond our solar system
kek
human-turian first contact war following the discovery of mass relays
Yeah but ME humans were artificially advanced a ton by finding prothean artifacts and refined element zero on Mars nothing like that seems to be the case in Starfield so far.
>We are now in another galaxy >4 light years away from Earth
I'm enclined to believe starfield critics are just third world baboons paid by Sony. You can't be a full time professional moron for free.
>took tens of thousands of years for humans to spread across the earth only takes one century to spread beyond our solar system
kek
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Yeah but ME humans were artificially advanced a ton by finding prothean artifacts and refined element zero on Mars nothing like that seems to be the case in Starfield so far.
Technological advancements are exponential when a breakthrough is made.
Reminder that in just 15 years we went from propeller planes to the SR-71 and the Saturn V.
If we managed to develop FTL? Sure.
Right now we don't even know how FTL could even work, anything's possible with something that breaks the laws of physics as we know them.
>Musktard thinks this means we'll have humans on Mars anytime soon then FTL shortly after
lmao
There's a 100 year difference between getting to Mars and getting to Alpha Centauri, though.
>Right now we don't even know how FTL could even work
We have a rough idea of how it could works such as the Alcubierre drive but the issue is it would require more energy than currently exist in the entire universe to work hence why it would require "exotic matter" basically some bullshit substance like dilithium crystals from Star Trek which isn't known to exist and can create infinite amounts of power.
The alcubierre drive poses far more problems than energy requirement (you're wrong btw it requires about three suns worth of energy with current estimates). Alcubierre himself acknowledged it recently.
Actual ftl travel is detonating nukes behind your vessel and harnessing the explosion.
Yes, literally.
11 months ago
Anonymous
isnt that how they did it in 2001 a space oddysee
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes. It really is the best shot at approaching light speed.
When you explain a firearm's function it's just a directed explosion. A car's engine is just a directed explosion. Humans are boom masters.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You can't accelerate beyond the speed of light just with that.
Alpha Centauri by 2156? Now that's optimistic, but in the 80s, we definitely thought this. Now it's just Americans, their corporations and the slow death of culture.
In the year 2148, explorers on Mars discovered the remains of an ancient spacefaring civilization. In the decades that followed, these mysterious artifacts revealed startling new technologies, enabling travel to the furthest stars. The basis for this incredible technology was a force that controlled the very fabric of space and time.
They called it the greatest discovery in human history.
The civilizations of the galaxy call it... MASS EFFECT.
could have just as easily gone >russians got to moon first spurring the space race to get even more money thrown at it to the point both sides accidentally discover FTL
Funniest part is how they made a guy in a blue striped shirt black, even tho he was a white guy with a beard in the first trailer.
Cutting out Gagarin is completely moronic since he has nothing to do with the current events.
Yuri Gagarin didn't do or achieve anything. He rode into space on a soviet rocket made by the slave labor of kidnapped german engineers. The only reason to mention him is to prop up the exact (fake) image of the soviet union that Russia currently is.
Yuri Gagarin didn't do or achieve anything. He rode into space on a soviet rocket made by the slave labor of kidnapped german engineers. The only reason to mention him is to prop up the exact (fake) image of the soviet union that Russia currently is.
Soviet space program was a mess full of corruption, it was going to fall apart no matte what.
And when they finally developed a functional Moon rocket they just abandoned it and let it rot for decades until it literally fell apart.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're confusing the 1980s Energiya rocket to carry the Buran shuttle with the N1 rocket (their actual space rocket).
Really sounds like you're an expert on the Soviet program indeed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The Energia rocket was made to be able to carry different payloads, Buran was just one of them, it was capable of carrying capsules, for example, and it only had 9T less payload capacity to translunar injection than the Saturn V.
In fact, the Soviets and NASA were in some preliminary plans to form a joint space program to return to the Moon using the Energia rocket.
Is just the Soviet Union collapsed and all that ended in nothing.
yeah, but unlike for all mankind, starfield could actually be somewhat entertaining. i dont know whats with alternate history shows and being fricking painfully boring
It's estimated that the full cost of a crewed Mars mission is in the range of 500 billion dollars.
Good luck getting any government to fund that without a reason that could interest them.
>It's estimated that the full cost of a crewed Mars mission is in the range of 500 billion dollars.
Is that it? Sounds like small change for a certain company known for its ties to the energy sector.
For comparison, each Moon landing cost about 1.5 billion, and the government cancelled the Apollo program entirely because they didn't feel like paying that.
I don't think anything save for "We literally found alien ruins" would convince any state to fund a crewed Mars landing.
I just don't understand the mentality of americans.
Space and futurism discussion going on and they rather talk about some politician or some third worlder conflict.
Because dwelling on things that aren't real is bad for the mind.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Than why you care so much about American internal politics?
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's things that could exist, it's far more interesting than boring current politics where nothing happens.
I'll give you the Biden one, but don't act like everyone and their mother isn't sucking off ukroids constantly
See, look at this american, who fricking cares?
It's like their brains can only store a tiny amount of information.
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Friendly reminder that Europe never went to the moon and never did anything relevant in the space race.
Reminder that the Saturn V, the rocket that took you to the Moon, was designed by Wernher von Braun, a German engineer.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Wernher von Braun, a American engineer.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He had US nationality, he was born and raised in Germany.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yup, an American engineer. Sorry Europe, if you wanted to colonize space you shouldn't have conspired to destroy Germany.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You mean Germany destroying Europe for the 10th time in 1500 years ?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, one german guy did everything, he even mined the materials needed and screwed every single frame of the rocket by himself. He also worked shifts at Wendy's to buy the parts.
Black person just because one german led a projet financed and built by the US doesn't mean Germany or Hans the obese NEET get any credit in the space race.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Werner Von Braun gets a ton of credit for the space race. Him being a nazi is immaterial to the space race itself.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, Werner, not Germany, not Europe, Werner and the US.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I agree. >just because one german led a projet financed and built by the US doesn't mean Germany or Hans the obese NEET get any credit in the space race.
He gets a ton of credit though.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He didn't do everything, but he was the chief designer of the Saturn V, without him the US wouldn't have pulled it off.
The Soviets had a huge head start and were way ahead of the US before they brought von Braun in, and even then the Soviets failed to build a Moon capable rocket.
Hell, the USA's current Moon rocket, the SLS, is pretty much the same as the Saturn V, despite being half a century newer.
Yup, an American engineer. Sorry Europe, if you wanted to colonize space you shouldn't have conspired to destroy Germany.
>an American engineer.
So, straight up denial.
>Sorry Europe, if you wanted to colonize space you shouldn't have conspired to destroy Germany.
Do I need to remind you on what side of WWII you fought?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Lol, you admit he was an American citizen, yet I am in denial. You poor thing.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>a bunch of papers indicate your country
And that's how countries become 50% white.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don't think any american citizens were fighting in the nazi army.
11 months ago
Anonymous
There were actually, very few however and they were pretty much all 1st generation immigrants.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>this cope
>basing your game off of fake NASA DUDE SCIENCE SHIT
yeah this is gay
>third worlder spergs out over space because he'll never be able to get his hands on it and ruin it
11 months ago
Anonymous
Space isn’t real moron
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Yes, I live in mudhuts and I barely have access to clean water, but let me tell you how the world really works
11 months ago
Anonymous
I’m American
11 months ago
Anonymous
You Americans zoomers and millennials know jack shit about science, half of you are flat earthers and the other half thinks cutting off your dick turns you into a woman.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The only thing the USA gets credit for is the Apollo CSM and LM, those were designed by North American Aviation, Boeing and Rocketdyne.
11 months ago
Anonymous
And look at you now. A corporate owned nation of halfbreeds, obese piles of subhuman excrement and braindead monkeypoxing homosexuals predating on children with the full blessing of the very US you're deep throating like a 10 dollar prostitute in the back of an F 150 cab. The US has become a disgrace to mankind and the only way forward is to amputate that cancer. You are in the death throes of it now, writing cheques in Europe you won't be able cash. Even your women openly hate you in movies about children's dolls. That is how much of a bucket of shit the US become. Nobody wants your cancer. Nobody wants a shriveled vampire begging on their doorstep. Yankee go home and die out quietly you corn syrup infused genetic dead ends.
spit
11 months ago
Anonymous
Not American + you're forcing people to take in rapefugees and ruined Europe multiple times. Not my problem.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>he says, currently deepthroating US softpower, on a US website, speaking americanised English, debating about an American game.
Take your meds.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Haha Starfield, hurray!!!!
11 months ago
Anonymous
I agreed about one of the posts you gaylord >It's like their brains can only store a tiny amount of information.
You forget the contents of my post as you're typing yours, and you say this. Incredible.
I just don't understand the mentality of americans.
Space and futurism discussion going on and they rather talk about some politician or some third worlder conflict.
Friendly reminder that Europe never went to the moon and never did anything relevant in the space race.
It writes itself. >the ship was on mars because the events of the game are fricked and we went back in time and crashed it there so humans would find it 1000000000000000 years later to crate a closed loop
It writes itself.
NOOOO WHERES MY LEAKS WHERES MY LETS PLAY WHERES MY ADVERTISING SHOVING THIS GAME DOWN MY THROAT WHETES MY ALPHA WHERES MY BETA WHERES MY DEMO IT MUST BE BAD IT IS RIGHT GUIZE YEP FLOP BETHESDA IS DONE NOBODY WILL PLAY THIS ITS OVER I MUST CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOM NOW NOW NOW WAAAAAAAAH
it that’s what has to happen so be it, they better not have fricked this one up, I’ll never forget how fallout 3 had literally only one robot be purchasable from the robot merchant
>4 years between human colonization in Alpha Centauri and the establishment of a new capital in it.
What the frick happened to earth? What possible reason would some fledgling colony world be chosen as the capital for a rapidly expanding interstellar colonial empire and not the cradle of humanity with its vast industrial and population base?
Also when Coe founded Akila City was it named as such right from the get go? a bit pretentious isn't it, to name your personal community of 1 a "city"?.
You aren't going to have a space setting at all unless it's stable as frick anon. The amount of time and planning to do anything right needs long term stability.
> We dindu nuffin!
They scream as they pick your pocket. Let no-one suffer the American lest he be willing to give away all that is his, prostitute his wife for their gain and emasculate his children.
People here have been so brain rotted by countless sequels, reboots, remakes. That they’re confused when a new IP is establishing lore and every character mentioned doesn’t already have a funko pop and their own spin-off and novel series.
>Mass Effect did it but was way more creative
Black person, the timeline in Mass Effect is fricked.
In just 30 years humanity goes from just having Mars colonies to being spread out all over the Milky Way and having a seat on the Citadel.
Only thing that explains is their tech development, which is just lazy, they literally just find a bunch of ships on Mars.
The way humanity behaves, the way it gets treated, is one of a species that's been among aliens for generations.
Bear in mind, in Mass Effect, someone could have been born when humanity just had Moon and Mars bases, and by the time they finished studying a career humanity suddenly has hundreds of colonies all over the Milky Way and people who haven't even seen Earth.
And lets not forget that within 30 years they caught up with the Turians in space tech, the ones who were already a space faring species thousands of years ago.
Mass Effect's timeline makes no sense compared to when the games happen, games should have been set at least 100 years later.
I think he means that 30 years is barely enough to create 1 more generation of humans, unless Earth was already at max capacity or there was a massive baby boom there shouldn't be enough humans to populate every place of note with humans in just 30 years.
>Mass Effect did it but was way more creative
Black person, the timeline in Mass Effect is fricked.
In just 30 years humanity goes from just having Mars colonies to being spread out all over the Milky Way and having a seat on the Citadel.
They got a seat at the citadel cause they did ok during the first contact war, no?
>They got a seat at the citadel cause they did ok during the first contact war, no?
No, it's after Sovereign is destroyed.
The thing is, you have the Elcor and Volus who have been waiting for literal centuries, and suddenly a bunch of newbies who still used rockets a third of a human lifetime ago get a seat in the governing body of the entire galaxy?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>jellys and space manlets seething
Sounds like a skill issue lole.
Humanity only got to be on the council because they were the main fleet that protected the citadel from the reapers in ME1, to be a council race means you have to satisfy certain security obligations which humanity proved they could do whereas elcor and volus are too militarily weak.
Humanity was basically uplifted by discovering prothean tech in ME, it was just a way to get them out into the galactic community where the interesting shit like the relays and aliens were, even the factions in Starfield sound boring as frick they're just generic cookie cutter stuff like 'Galactic Federaration' and 'Space Cowboys/Rebels' even lore behind simple studd like the mass effect fields and biotics is more in depth and interesting than anything we've seen from Starfield so far.
Literally this >Game didn't came out yet >WHY ISN'T EVERYTHING SUPER COMPLEX I DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE CHARACTERS ARE I NEED A 100000 THOUSANDS PAGES BOOK ABOUT EVERYTHING EVEN THOUGH THE GAME DID NOT FRICKING CAME OUT IT'S BAD ABDBABDBSBDBDB
The setting seems a bit ripped from Firefly. Cowboy group, Alliance / lawful militaristic group, Megacorp group. Or a lot of things, its the sci fi equivalent of orcs and elves
Firefly is ripped off from Traveler which is ripped off from every sci-fi book from Asimov to Verne. Incestuous propagation of ideas is what makes a genre after all.
>seems a bit ripped off / generic >well all these other things did it too
frick off next thing you'll be defending lord of the rings for ripping off generic rangers and dwarves and wizards and shit
The point is that there's nothing new under the sun. Anyone who wants to make a compelling fictional story about future science while being grounded to our experience as humans WILL reverse engineer half of the tropes that invented the sci-fi genre in the first place. It's impossible to avoid without delving into disjointed schizo fiction.
>It's impossible to avoid without delving into disjointed schizo fiction.
Speaking of disjointed schizo scifi you should try out Paradigm Worlds. One of the most wild setting to come out of the modding scene.
Nah the point is you're just disagreeing for the sake of it, this shit is the most bland generic story I've ever seen, I'm literally glazing over just looking at this timeline. I'm still gonig to enjoy flying around blasting shit but I'll give no shits about who the frick anyone is adn I bet you can't remember any of it even now >2257 Flolbert Grankkle joins the Condominium
frick off an AI could do better
FRICK U.C SPACE JANNIES
STARTED TWO WARS BECAUSE 'noooo you're not allowed claim a planet to build a farm on without a permission"
THE ~~*UC*~~ FEARS THE SPACE FARMER
Your baby rage right now is the literal equivalent to reading the 2 paragraph blurb on the back of a GoT book and going "WHO THE FRICK IS NED START? WHOSE THIS JON SNOW TWINK? WHY THE FRICK WOULD I CARE. SHIT STORY, SSHIT BOOK moronic FRICKING WRITING" and then throw it in the trash.
You're simply put acting like a moron arguing in bad faith for the sake of arguing
Yeah who are these characters? I wonder if there will be some kind of game where I can talk to them and learn more and they will gain their relevance.
A blurb should get you interested, I've picked up many a book based on the blurb alone. Not interested in picking up the Starfield book so far.
Its bland.
The best scifi is about ideas for me. This is just a sequence of events in space setting. The worst kind of fiction. There's nothing to make you think, its just: thing happened then thing happened. I still remember shit I read from years ago from buying second hand anthologies of scifi short stories, I won't remember any of this shit and I got a strong feeling its not gongi to very interesting if thats the best they can do.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sci-fi is a very decisive genre with a lot of branching sub-genres, in how it utilizes the science aspect of it.
I like the idea of a first contact story, multiple generations down the road, and we're getting just into the early wild-west days of the great expanse. The nasa-punk tech as they coined it is great. I'm up to date though to the latest in the modern day space industry, the theories and tech they already use and I'm excited to see how Bethesda extrapolates a more realistic down to earth feeling onto that. It's going to be able the science, the adventure and the story of those who are seeking to control the new expanse.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah I don't mind the concept it s more the dull way they presented it literally just makes my eyes glaze over reading it like trying to take in a shopping list, as if we should give a shit about any of these people at this point. I don't mind the grounded setting, I like Battlestar Galactica for example which is pretty grounded tech-wise, but even that has some philosophical ideas in it like is a toaster alive, has this all happened before and will happen again, and even the suggestion of divine reality in it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Yeah I don't mind the concept it s more the dull way they presented it literally just makes my eyes glaze over reading it like trying to take in a shopping list
Have you considered at all that maybe it isn't an issue with what you're reading and you've instead just got a lot of mental baggage associated with Bethesda so you look at everything they put out like it's going to shoot your dog?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you've instead just got a lot of mental baggage associated with Bethesda so you look at everything they put out like it's going to shoot your dog?
not him. but yeah i think that's the reason why people are questioning this
BD3 writing is not that good or bad, yet it's only being praised because larian
11 months ago
Anonymous
Have you considered why you are defending something against a criticism as if it is a personal attack on you? I have no baggage with bethesda, I've predorder the game and am looknig for ward to playing it. ANd I can still look at it objectively and say that the story so far is uninspired banal tripe. Bu as I will be playing mostly for the gameplay and immersion rather than the shitty story, probably doesn't even matter.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>shitty story >judging the story before even actually playing the game
i mean the anon you were talking has got a point
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm judging he story so far as presented so far.
Its a historical timeline, it's purpose is to solely give people an idea of the chain of events in the main storyline so if you want to roleplay as someone who knows the lore of the constellation company, etc you already have a general idea of what's going on.
It's not supposed to be written as some historical fluff piece to get you to buy the book, that's what the direct was for in showing off how the gameplay and world looks. This is just a dry historical timeline of events to get you prepared for the universe you're entering, so when someone ingame references the Narion wars, you know it roughly took place from 2196-2216 on your history nerd character orr whatever and how far back that relates to the timeframe you're playing in.
>Its a dry historical timeline
Exactly yeah, and thats boring. You saying its meant to be boring? That was their choice to make it boring. I know there was a war between some united guys and some free guys, and then andreja did something, and barrett, fricking barret, he just knew that srtifact was special. Holy shit I'm so invested already.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Exactly yeah, and thats boring.
To a mouth-breathing cretin like you sure, but I enjoyed history class. Subhuman IQ trash like you are the reason I get to see my facebook feed filled with shared posts from equally subhuman apes I went to school with sharing some historical fact and saying "WE DIDNT LEARN THIS IN HISTORY CLASS" when I know for a fact we did Robin, you just were to busy gossiping with your friends giggling about Chad Thunderwiener starting QBs dick instead of paying attention.
11 months ago
Anonymous
but it's not the actually story anon, it's historical tidbits for you to learn what has happened before leading up to current events in the game
Ok so andreja joined constellation in what year? don't look
11 months ago
Anonymous
A few years before the events of the main story taking place
11 months ago
Anonymous
Fascinating. And who is andreja, and why is it relevant to know when she joined?
11 months ago
Anonymous
We don't know yet anon! the game isn't out, they also didn't show Andreja in the direct, so obviously it's someone important to the story that Bethesda is waiting to share with us.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Exactly! So we've been told when someone we know nothing about joined the thing. If we already knew something about andreja, this might be interesting. AS IT IS, it is meaningless, because we nothing about this person. I'm sure we will meet her or him or them and they will be super important, but AT THIS POINT, it is meaningless information. Do you see?
11 months ago
Anonymous
We know this person is important to the story of starfield, and now I have a general outline of the history of the starsystem my character is going to be in, the company they're going to be working for, and the names of who my prominent coworkers are.
none of this is meaningless information as it's directly relevant to a game I'm playing day 1 early access hour 1.
Sorry you're a brainlet who can't comprehend how a timeline is beneficial
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree because this discussion is boring too. When you meet Andreja, be sure to say out loud "OH its Andreja I read about her on the timeline, she joined a few years ago.", and say hello to barret for me.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Everything is boring to you, except apparently spending hours on end telling anonymous people what you find boring
What a sad pathetic life you lead
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah probably true, but at least I know it. We're both in this boat together, and i'm just expressing my unbiased opinion, and you're fighting back on the defensive like you are personally offended by criticism of the game.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Well no, you stated your opinion and I told you it was wrong.
you could've walked away at any point, while I got my time to discuss the game like I wanted.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I think the game looks great btw, the action in particular looks really good for bethesda, or for anyone for that matter. I am ok with it being action RPG oriented and not bothered if its not the deepest RPG in the world. A good story would be great too, but I'm not inspired by generic space factions having a war and all that so far. Maybe the ancient alien parts will be good, maybe it willall be fantastic idk, but I don't think anyone who is a sci fi fan can genuinely say its this is interesting history. So I feel that you must just be defending it out of some kind of loyalty or personal attachment rather than being objective. A can be great and you love it but still maybe this poart of it is not so good?
11 months ago
Anonymous
but it's not the actually story anon, it's historical tidbits for you to learn what has happened before leading up to current events in the game
11 months ago
Anonymous
Its a historical timeline, it's purpose is to solely give people an idea of the chain of events in the main storyline so if you want to roleplay as someone who knows the lore of the constellation company, etc you already have a general idea of what's going on.
It's not supposed to be written as some historical fluff piece to get you to buy the book, that's what the direct was for in showing off how the gameplay and world looks. This is just a dry historical timeline of events to get you prepared for the universe you're entering, so when someone ingame references the Narion wars, you know it roughly took place from 2196-2216 on your history nerd character orr whatever and how far back that relates to the timeframe you're playing in.
11 months ago
Anonymous
That's because it's just a timeline moron. What themes starfield decides to tackle and whether they're executed well remains to be seen. Keep in mind the lead writer is Shen not Emil so "it's bethesda of course it will be shallow" doesn't really apply here
Genuinely don't have the words to describe how moronic your post is, talking as if a vague timeline of events leading up to the stories beginning is the substance of the story itself
11 months ago
Anonymous
Its titled "the story so far, and they chose to present it as a dry list of things happening in the most dull and uninspired way possible. They didn't have to write it like that, they could have written it like a blurb:
"In 2050 the human race finally conquered the planet mars under the leadership of president elonk mewsk. In 50 years they were no longer tethered to the mother world, but were free, spacefarers, and ready to venture forth into the void..."
11 months ago
Anonymous
>middle school creative writing class drivel full of tropes is your example of what they should've done
and these are the people who unironically expect you to hold their opinions in high regard
11 months ago
Anonymous
Better than what they did, I already want to know more
11 months ago
Anonymous
what they wrote was way worse than the original though lmao
Review codes are going out later this week, supposedly before the 17th https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1691188293008838656?t=F5h8pDVZzvzs5sI6su9HKQ&s=19
Not Skyrim no. In Skyrim he was in charge of the Dark Brotherhood and generic dialogue. "Arrow in the knee" was written by him and it wasn't intended to be a meme
I don't hate readin at all, I hate reading boring shit, you seem to have a real low intelligence score >generic space group A did a thing >generic space group B didn't like it >group A and group B went to war >then the war ended and they agreed to not war >then person A joined group C >a bit later person B joined group C
now just fill in random shit foir the names
>pointless reductionism garbage
no anon, you dont have a point. I could do that to any of your favorite books, but you dont have any because you dont read.
its a timeline of events.
I think the setting and lore we've seen so far is interesting yes, first contact stories are some of the best in science fiction
A timeline of events with names of people that you have no idea of who they are or anything about them. A list basically, a list of names and dates they did a thing. Do you enjoy reading lists? Thats your idea of good lore? This is eciting you is it, seeing a list of names that at this point mean nothnig to you and a date they joined something? Honestly a fricking kid in english class could write a more interesting timeline foir an assigment, I could write a more interesting sequence of events when writing a to-do list for the day.
Your baby rage right now is the literal equivalent to reading the 2 paragraph blurb on the back of a GoT book and going "WHO THE FRICK IS NED START? WHOSE THIS JON SNOW TWINK? WHY THE FRICK WOULD I CARE. SHIT STORY, SSHIT BOOK moronic FRICKING WRITING" and then throw it in the trash.
You're simply put acting like a moron arguing in bad faith for the sake of arguing
There's no aliens, that alone makes anything set in this world boring because Bethesda can't write complex humans. And if there's nothing BUT humans (till the end of the main quest maybe, and I doubt those aliens will rejoin the galaxy), well get ready for fallout 4 in space (but extra boring cause no Fallout lore to fallback on)
its a timeline of events.
I think the setting and lore we've seen so far is interesting yes, first contact stories are some of the best in science fiction
>Freestar Ranger Sam Coe and his daughter Cora join Constellation >and his daughter
No thanks Bethesda, his wife probably got sick of his cowboy LARP and dumped him. Barrett is the only vanilla male option for romance I guess.
I hope they explained how SOL works in ships. 2100s seems a too little early for discovery of other systems. I get that it's fiction but were almost a quarter away from 2050 and I find humans going to mars unbelievable.
Living in space by 2100 I assume refers to people living long term in space stations or on colonies that are within the solar system. Presumably the grav drive is then invented which lets them leave and reach Alpha Centauri (closest star system) in 2156. >I get that it's fiction but were almost a quarter away from 2050 and I find humans going to mars unbelievable.
Most popular propositions for manned missions to Mars aim for the 30s so I found the 2050s date interestingly grounded by comparison.
>Most popular propositions for manned missions to Mars aim for the 30s so I found the 2050s date interestingly grounded by comparison.
I just looked into that, for now, 4 people are prepping themselves for the mission. To me, it's crazy to imagine being separated from Earth to a distant planet and hope nothing fricks up.
So theres probably gonna be a bunch of united people saying "cowboys bad" and a bunch of cowboys saying "united bad" but really there's just different factions that mean nothing to us really we weren't involved in any of it or have anything to go off the make any kind of choice one way or the other. Its eems like juts territorial rather than idealogical.
lots in between too
Who are these fricking made up people
What a useless shitty timeline. Absolutely meaningless information. Like if I told you Zard Zoglaf became manager of space burger king in 2345
They're supposed to be the main cast but Bethesda hasn't given us any info about them to make us care about these bozos.
>bozos
It's there so when you meet beggar Lard Zoglaf you can quickly put him out of his misery.
It's a made up sci-fi story, shit-for-brains. Of course the names are going to be made up.
>Zard Zoglaf forgive me...
jej
You're right. The main characters should have been Elon Musk, Nikolandroid Tesla, and a clone of Neil DeGrasse Tyson. All these made of people I dont even know is fricking stupid
I suspect your post might have been meant with irony but I earnestly agree. The game would be far, far more interesting and more people would be talking about it.
I'm willing to bet there'll be some side character called Elong Musq or some shit
Ah, you're actually serious then. What you're looking for is Futurama kek
it's happening
>I DONT READ BOOKS AT ALL EVER BECAUSE IT MESSES UP MY ADHD AND IM BLACKPILLED SO I DONT TAKE ANY PILLS ACTUALLY WHATSOEVER BECAUSE ITS ALL BIG PHARMA POISON TO CONTROL US
okay schizoid, the rest of us here likes reading lore in our games, sorry it fricks up your dyslexia or something
Its completely meaningless lore because you have no idea who these people are or why you should give a shit that they joined whatever group on whatever date so why even present it like that. At this point why shoudl I give a shit that Andreja joined the constipation in 22338
>WHY READ A FICTION BOOK NONE OF ITS REAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLL
Look again Schizoid, we know that you struggle reading because you're an ADHD aspie with dyslexia who grew up on tablets and watching videos at 2x speed on youtube, but the rest of us like lore.
BG3 proved that.
>you dont like this banal tripe
>you must hate reading
I'm looking forward to the game but there's nothing interesting about that timeline in anyway. You like this lore that you're seeing here? Does it excite you to know that Andreja joined constipation in 223423? Really makes you think that doesn't it. Such lore. God I'm gonna be awake all nnight pondering the ins and outs of all that.
Yes. You hate reading.
Your justification for disliking this is "ITS POINTLESSS AGHHH"
so you must hate any and all fiction, which means you're an utter homosexual that should leave the medium of videogames behind and have a nice day
how the frick does a timeline of all things filter people like?
Souls gets away with it fine
>Lord Youclarif the Bespoken slays the Eternal Coven Initiating the Age of Slaying
Zzzz. Fricking boring!
Why is there like a 120 year gap between these images
Also
>Barrett finds the artifact and knows it’s special
wat
He touched it, just like you get the whoosh thing when you touch it. Except you're special and get the whoosh thing when you touch all of them, and everyone else only gets it once. Except the big bad guy who shows up to try to steal all your pieces of your magic multi-axis trainer.
It's an artifact of non-human construction that predates humanity that alone makes it "special". It doesn't need to do or be anything else. Phrasing it like that makes it sound like somebody found it and although they thought to catalog and keep it, they didn't think it was important or profound or interesting or worth study in any other capacity.
No, no, I'm saying you're special, not the piece you touch, because other people only get the experience from it once, they don't understand that the pieces are connected until later, which is also what the timeline shows. Someone got one, had the experience, logged the piece, and then the black guy you meet in the trailer figures they must connect and might unlock the terrible secret of space, and starts looking for either something or someone that can bridge them all into one object, which turns out to be you.
After reading the whole thing I can safely say the UC started both wars. Frick them, I'm joining the freestar collective.
>UC started both wars.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves now anon there's no proof
>united colonies
>new atlantis
>freestar collective
>the clinic
>constellation
>crimson fleet
Are these placeholder names or did they use some ai to generate the absolute most generic name possible?
>Saturn V
>Falcon 9
>Starship
>Skylon
>Energia
>Mare Tranquillitatis
>Tartarus Dorsa
>Trojans
We aren't that original irl either.
>Tartarus Dorsa
They called something literally hell?
Yes, it's the name of a mountainous area in Pluto.
New Atlantis is named after Sir Francis Bacon's utopian novel, so that's a non-generic name that reflects the intent of the city well.
No it's named after the mythological city that sunk, and the game will have some lazy quest where you save the city from sinking.
It's bethesda
Wrong city, New Atlantis isn’t on water. It’s the cyberpunk city that is. Don’t remember the name though since it was so generic
No that's Atlantis you fricking moron. It's not named Atlantis.
Anon stop posting
The Red Mile is another one.
It's what it was like in the age of Asimov and Heinlein
This, Todd knows better than anyone on Ganker, they just don't realize cause they haven't paid attention to the literature.
Whatever you say Todd.
and what a dark age that was
But despite their flaws (asimovs early works have flat characters, heinlein could not shut up about his fetishes,etc) classic sci fi had far more depth and creativity compared to post-kirkbride bethesda.
Far harbor though was decently written, and the writer for that dlc is doing this, so this game will likely be better than fallout 4 albeit not worth the hype.
Why don't these specify on tech advancements?
That's the cool part of space.
When did humanity achieve SSTO? When were rockets deemed obsolete? When and how was FTL achieved?
i cannot wait for bethesda to somehow frick up the lore of a new ip with no previous lore baggage like TES and FO had
New Vegas fricked the lore more than either 3 or 4
bait
the timeline focusses on UC, FSC, and Constellation landmark dates. I'm sure the ingame books/computers will cover all the questions you can have.
no doubt in typical bethesda fashion you'll explore old science/industrial buildings which will show you what the tech advancement was like
there actually have been a lot of rumors involving the invention of FTL in starfield strongly correleating to the destruction of earth
Slopspace rupture 😀
>go back to Earth
>the moon is gone
cue in construction of big space station to control the tides
That would be a cool avenue. Gravity manipulation royally fricking up the environment.
Is this an original concept?
I remember it being a plotpoint for Cowboy Bebop. The first warpgate exploded and took out the Moon in the process hence why most of the show sticks around Mars and small orbital stations.
>that space race episode with the guy caught in warp space from the jumpgate testing days
kino
Earth is Tamriel
All of this is extremely generic and bland. If I were a teenager with limited exposure to science fiction, I would probably find this compelling, but I'm not and it just does nothing for me.
>tfw to intelligent for scifi
I've read fanfictions with better timelines t b h. Who even are these characters?
Why is randos joining Constellation considered timeline worthy?
They help you find alien artifacts until you unlock its secrets and become god
>2330
>Space AK-47s
Bravo Todd
>2023
>still using 130 year old cartridges
Don't fix what ain't broke Ivan.
There are still people who shoot black power in the 2023. Besides, there isn't much you can do with conventional firearms, armies just put shit load of electronics on a 60 y.o. designs
It's just skyrim (The Empire) lore in space.
>Humans arrive at the Noro-Santari system is 4537392
>Jeff Rickman founds the freesun collective in 17273
>ARS systems develop gravitational traveling in 274738
>Trns-Str and Quiksilver initiate a corporate merge in 17172
>Master Cheebf arrives in Sanghelios on christmas eve
Its just a bunch of fricking names and shit involving space corporations. None of this is compelling in anyway.
BRAVO PAGLIARULO THE CLOWN
BRAVO TODD
This is what makes a 100 year gap in the timeline where humans seemingly discovered FTL travel so funny.
Isn't there supposed to be some 2001 space odyssey bullshit that we discover
Yeah the images straight up hint at it. 100 year gap to FTL travel and then a megacorp sets up an eye to surveil the heavens.
It's just Marathon for a new audience.
>a megacorp
dumbass
>corporation spans multiple star systems
what do we call structures that span multiple star systems? Mega structures.
The Golden Gate Bridge is a megastructure and that's only like two miles long.
>corporation
dumbass
I mean... you say that but they developed FTL in mass effect in a year
Yeah but they used the... mass effect to do that.
Yep.
Because they literally just found spacecraft that could achieve FTL on Mars.
As oppossed to figuratively finding spacecraft on Mars?
No. As in anything could have explained it but they just found it next door.
That sure is lucky huh?!
It's just the prequel to the eye of magnus quest with different names.
>space burger king in 2345
only $500 space bucks for a whopper
>Nothing between 2050-2156
>Nothing between 2194-2321
Fallout continuity confirmed
>Barrett finds the original artifact in the Constellation archives and knows it must be special.
there's that strong bethesda writing i know and love
God tell me more. Barrett is my favorite timeline character. How did he know it must be special?
>there's that strong bethesda writing i know and love
it happens all the time in real life
This has gotta be some of the shittiest space game lore I’ve ever seen
Even by standard space slop standards this is terribly lazy
why should I be remotely interested in who joins constellation? They haven't given nearly enough information about it for me to look at this and go
"OH MY GOD GLUP SHITTO SHOOK HANDS WITH CEO GENERAL ELECTRIC AND HIS DAUGHTER WASHER DRYER"
If you're going to name fictional characters, tell me about Starfield's Amerigo Vespucci or Thomas Edison
>They haven't given nearly enough information
That's the fricking point of the timeline you moron. You take in this information, then later you can soiface about new information you discover in game.
I don't care about who invested in constellation. The interesting information is how and when we got FTL travel
If only there was a way to discover that information.
You have bought my game, haven't you anon?
They have literally shown no quests from this game yet and I'm supposed to be interested?
I believe that Todd is a prophet and the future will happen like he says
>BG3 troons happy to frick bears
>Tardfield homosexuals eager to suck their father's wiener.
What happened to gaming?
zoomer humor
>hahah what if I was gay and sucked a dick hahha
>What happened to gaming?
You can't have fun anymore, because you're a culture warrior subhuman who screeches like a broken record.
>sex jokes everywhere and forced homosexualry good
>pointing it out bad
Pointing out what, the thing that started this is redditards imaging their dads sucking wiener
People like you
It's literally boomer humor that disappeared when gaming went mainstream in the 2000's and is resurfacing now because boomers are making games again
>imagining your dad sucking wieners is boomer
Since when ?
>people shitposting
>whwhha-what happened to gaymen,????
Suck a dick, Black person.
>dick sucking only happened now
are you a new homosexual or what?
I hate this ironic vulgar talk people do these days, its so fricking cringey. Why do you all try so hard for attention, its pathetic.
also
>reddit
please leave
So when did we achieve ftl or near ftl spaceflight?
tomorrow
In between 2050 and arrival to alpha centauri cause otherwise they wouldnt have made it in between 100 years.
Seems like that’s important point in your timeline that’s just omitted
Nikola tesla achieved it but the fricking glowBlack folk stole the patents.
Will depend on how long it takes us to go back to the Moon and retro-engineer the crashed ship there.
That looks like a rock
Yeah, a tightly angled rock made out of a reflective metal.
NASA claimed that's a ship from 1967 that crashed on the moon. It's pretty much the same shape as the rockets they used, just with some holes in it and the needle at the front broken off.
Doesn't look in any way like a Saturn V.
Besides, this thing was 110 meters tall, whatever that is on the Moon is more than 3km long and 400 meters tall.
WTF Since when has there been a crashed UFO on the moon
For 1.5 billion years, apparently.
And I'm only just finding out now? This some simulation update or something.
Because no one ever talks about it.
Just look up the region it's located in, Delporte-Izsak.
>Because no one ever talks about it.
No one ever talks about it because the whole apollo 20 spaceship alien city mona lisa thing is a prank whose author admitted having made up the entire thing 15 years or so ago.
new DLC
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canular_Apollo_20
i'm sorry, anon
Fromage baguette h'ors d'ouevres
>conspiracytards are too dumb to use google translate, let alone speak more than one language
alright anons, there totally is an ancient spacecraft that we're gonna take apart in 50 years when we go back to the moon and we're gonna have star trek irl for realsies, banging catgirls and asari left and right
ESL moment.
I don't speak Fr*nch you cheese eating surrender monkey!
Yet I bet you dated Curie you mouthbreather
That's the thing that stuck out to me too.
It's literally "we put man on mars and lol now we're colonizing the universe" without any explanation of anything.
You'd think there would be a bullet point at like 2099 that says
>XYZ developed a new technique or discovered ancient alien tech that allows our spacecrafts to shield the humans on board from radiation, small debress, and the g's of near FTL travel
Legitimately that single lack of a bullet point has killed a lot of interest i had in this game.
Hmm, I wonder why it would be such a fricking mystery you mental pretzel yoga dipshit
What, did everyone just forget? That's fricking stupid, you set up this future timeline then immediately spit in the face of it and look backwards, that's asinine.
Yeah, it's a real mystery, Scoob. We'll just have to go over to that spooky looking planet and find out, huh?
>debress
lmao moron
Also so moronic he doesn’t know what a whipple shield is
What happened to Earth
died
Taken over by e-girl catgirl androids
I will now buy your game
Ecological disaster of some kind. What it was caused by who knows. Not go8ng to include it in the timeliness because it's a mystery within the game for the player to discover.
Living on Earth fell out of fashion.
FULLY. RECREATED. EARTH. 16 MILLION TIMES THE DETAIL.
Anon refused to eat ze bugz and give up his car and caused great suffering among brown people. We are now paying the toll of wypepol's evil.
People all started to use Ganker as a platform for advice, and this lead to several gender, race, religion, cuckold and AI wars to a point where Earth become uninhabitable from all the dumb homosexualry
They all went to mars, you can go there.
Diversity.
including the white races was truly a step too far
president Trump sold it to aliens for magic space beans
it's fricked
climate change
you go to earth in the game and it just force quits and opens fallout 76
Nuclear war in 2077
Starfield is a part of the fallout universe
>Starfield is a part of the Fallout universe
>Mundus can be stumbled upon in a primordial state
That's one way to shut both fandoms up for the next few years until their games come out.
Timelines wouldn't match up for Fallout, 4's set in like 2300. Elder Scrolls could definitely work in though somehow.
Maybe during the endgame sequence you use an artifact to choose a jumping point. Blue takes you to Elderscrolls, Green takes you to Fallout and Red takes you to The 10th Planet.
>Pre-war U.S. government lands on Mars
>Enclave begins planning for the apocalypse, intending to travel to Alpha Centauri (this part is already canon in Fallout)
>Great War happens
>A branch of the Enclave make it off-world and travel to Alpha Centauri, founding the United Colonies in 2159 (shortly before Fallout 1)
>spent the next century inventing the transistor and mastering the art of fusion energy
Nirn and by extension the entirety of that universe is within the dreams of a dead god. The stars are holes in the world where magika flows in from beyond the veil, and there is nothing beyond it.
uhhh purely a natural cycle of heating and cooling
Orbital wobble.
2 ways earth could go
>complete desolate ruin from war and ecological ruin
>aristocratic paradise that only the ultra rich can ever dream of living on
According to Will Shen we'll find out throughout the main story. But based on the trailer and the direct it seems like atleast 95% of it is an unhabitable wasteland, with some landmarks still standing.
Position of the sun is all wrong. That’s not Earth. Discovery of warp tech went wrong and teleported a bunch of shit to other planets.
I hope this game doesn't suffer from the same 'wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle' syndrome that Skyrim did, but I know it probably will.
I'm ready for it to be just no man's sky in gamebryo.
Shit tier criticism. Skyrim main issue lies within the quest themselves
Do we normally see big games have no outside footage/previews 2 weeks before it launches? It's all been in house footage so far, as good as that deep dive was.
I don't think Bethesda has ever done outside footage previews.
It means they're really confident about their game selling without massive shilling and spoiling of the detaIls. The deep dive is already enough to get people to buy.
It's often a big red flag for most devs, but Bethesda does this with both good and bad games they publish, so it's not really noteworthy in either direction yet.
Also, friendly reminder that it's a Bethesda game so it'll be good, not great, and the feeling of depth will gradually decline as you play. Enjoy it for what it is, but don't expect more than a 7 or 8 out of 10.
So, when did they create the hyper drive?
New concept art just dropped too, say hello to the children of the future
>shoe pins
We are in store for a dark future
>New thing bad hurr
Autism
>add lines to shirts and pants that makes it futuristic!
Oh thank god, bracelets still exist in the future.
isn't that shirt a star wars reference?
dicky mods confirmed.
So United colonies is basically NCR/Bos and freestar collective are the minutemen?
Are there going to be hot green alien b***hes with fat breasts?
>united space federation colony
>free space galaxy heroes...
yawn how uninspired, who's the baddies I'm joining them
Crimson fleet which are pirates
Hell yeah , Crimson homies my crew
There's also a snake cult with some pretty dope armor
TUNNEL SNAKES. RULE.
Hmm I like Crimson better than snakes, I'm going to kill all those guys
I wanna see those guys who think they're the only ones outside the solar system
Troofield
>It doesn't HAVE to have ground vehicles
>It doesn't HAVE to have water falls
>It doesn't NEED to have real directional lighting that effects the enviroment.
>It doesn't need to have life on more than 10% of planets
>It doesn't need a modern engine.
>It doesn't matter that the dialogue is porn tier quality.
>It doesn't need aquatic vehicles.
>It doesn't need to have expressive dialogue animations.
>It doesn't NEED to be more than 30 fps on consoles.
>It doesn't need fallout 4's character body customizer.
>It doesn't need flyable ships in a planets atmosphere.
>It doesn't need playable alien races despite 10% of planets having life.
>It doesn't need good gunplay.
>It doesn't matter the collectors edition doesn't come with a disc
>It doesn't need to have interesting world designs.
>It doesn't MATTER that those 1000 worlds are all randomly generated.
>It doesn't need fallout 4's character body customizer.
It does have this also what’s “Troofield”
>>It doesn't NEED to have real directional lighting that effects the enviroment.
Oh that is one thing it definitely does have. Software RTGI. Cell wide. Across the entire skydome. I hope you bought a GPU with lots of Vram. You... did, get enough Vram, ri... oh.
you could have just said
>it doesnt NEED to have climable ladders in the year 2023 ad
We'll be back to donkey pulled carts by 2328, that or Cyberpunks timeline.
>We'll be back to donkey pulled carts by 2328
try the 2050s thanks to the upcoming solar micronova. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihwoIlxHI3Q
tracer tong won
Donkeychads just can't stop winning.
Cyberpunks lore is so hot garbage, I only run 2013-era Cyberpunk.
space is fake and gay
slob on my globes
Space makes third worlders seethe because it's the one place they'll never be able to ruin due to zero knowledge of rocketry.
We'll bring them to the stars. There will never be a timeline where we abandon the undesirables on this decaying planet
Eat zhe bugz chudz
TES6 release roadmap?
>he doesn't know
4-5 years after starfield, so probably 2027-2028
>2050 - We've reached Mars
>2156 - We are now in another galaxy
What the frick happened in that 100 years? Whatever happened there is the most significant piece of human history ever achieved and they don't even acknowledge it, this is the sort of top quality writing I've come to expect from Bethesda.
human-turian first contact war following the discovery of mass relays
>alpha centauri
>another galaxy
Mental moronation.
>Anon can't do basic extrapolation to figure it out
Anyone who has seen the direct and still questions how humanity got to Alpha Centauri is a complete moron.
>took tens of thousands of years for humans to spread across the earth only takes one century to spread beyond our solar system
kek
Yeah but ME humans were artificially advanced a ton by finding prothean artifacts and refined element zero on Mars nothing like that seems to be the case in Starfield so far.
>We are now in another galaxy
>4 light years away from Earth
I'm enclined to believe starfield critics are just third world baboons paid by Sony. You can't be a full time professional moron for free.
How does me being a total dipshit detract from the actual argument I brought up in my post?
>I'm enclined to believe starfield critics are just third world baboons
They ARE snoys so it's very likely. They do it for free though.
Not interested in filling time gaps in a game about travelling space and aliens
Technological advancements are exponential when a breakthrough is made.
Reminder that in just 15 years we went from propeller planes to the SR-71 and the Saturn V.
Anyone that thinks we'll have the same vast technological leap we had through the 20th century in the 21st is delusional.
Shit's stagnating.
>He doesn't know
>he believes a press conference designed as conspiracy bait that no other nation has acknowledged amid intense and divisive political upheval
If we managed to develop FTL? Sure.
Right now we don't even know how FTL could even work, anything's possible with something that breaks the laws of physics as we know them.
There's a 100 year difference between getting to Mars and getting to Alpha Centauri, though.
>Right now we don't even know how FTL could even work
We have a rough idea of how it could works such as the Alcubierre drive but the issue is it would require more energy than currently exist in the entire universe to work hence why it would require "exotic matter" basically some bullshit substance like dilithium crystals from Star Trek which isn't known to exist and can create infinite amounts of power.
Well they can just throw some of theoretical physics dark matter into it, that seems to solve any problems they have.
The alcubierre drive poses far more problems than energy requirement (you're wrong btw it requires about three suns worth of energy with current estimates). Alcubierre himself acknowledged it recently.
Actual ftl travel is detonating nukes behind your vessel and harnessing the explosion.
Yes, literally.
isnt that how they did it in 2001 a space oddysee
Yes. It really is the best shot at approaching light speed.
When you explain a firearm's function it's just a directed explosion. A car's engine is just a directed explosion. Humans are boom masters.
You can't accelerate beyond the speed of light just with that.
compitency crisis is what the know it alls are calling it.
It's code for saying non-whites are going to bring us back to agrarian society.
*competency
>tries to shit dunk other races
>can't even get your racehomosexual screed right
truly the last fringe survivors of the only worthy humans
>Musktard thinks this means we'll have humans on Mars anytime soon then FTL shortly after
lmao
>we went from the wright brothers to neil armstrong in 60-odd years
>another galaxy
the voices... they will not stop..
WHERE ARE THE ALIENS, TODD??
his name is jeff
I'm scared for elder scrolls now bros
Next TES is gonna be in Black personland, don't expect anything.
Edgy homosexual teenager
>now it only took you a little over 20 years to see the downward spiral?
We have a game for you its called Skyrim : Constellation Edition.
Alpha Centauri by 2156? Now that's optimistic, but in the 80s, we definitely thought this. Now it's just Americans, their corporations and the slow death of culture.
In the year 2148, explorers on Mars discovered the remains of an ancient spacefaring civilization. In the decades that followed, these mysterious artifacts revealed startling new technologies, enabling travel to the furthest stars. The basis for this incredible technology was a force that controlled the very fabric of space and time.
They called it the greatest discovery in human history.
The civilizations of the galaxy call it... MASS EFFECT.
could have just as easily gone
>russians got to moon first spurring the space race to get even more money thrown at it to the point both sides accidentally discover FTL
Don't quit your day job
im doing the writing for the next tes game im just posting here on my lunch break sorry
>russians
Lol not in this decade. Yuri already got the chop when they took his painting down in the Constellation HQ.
Funniest part is how they made a guy in a blue striped shirt black, even tho he was a white guy with a beard in the first trailer.
Cutting out Gagarin is completely moronic since he has nothing to do with the current events.
Yuri Gagarin didn't do or achieve anything. He rode into space on a soviet rocket made by the slave labor of kidnapped german engineers. The only reason to mention him is to prop up the exact (fake) image of the soviet union that Russia currently is.
>by the slave labor of kidnapped german engineers
Citation needed. Hohols had more influence on the USSR space program than krauts
Soviet space program was a mess full of corruption, it was going to fall apart no matte what.
And when they finally developed a functional Moon rocket they just abandoned it and let it rot for decades until it literally fell apart.
You're confusing the 1980s Energiya rocket to carry the Buran shuttle with the N1 rocket (their actual space rocket).
Really sounds like you're an expert on the Soviet program indeed.
The Energia rocket was made to be able to carry different payloads, Buran was just one of them, it was capable of carrying capsules, for example, and it only had 9T less payload capacity to translunar injection than the Saturn V.
In fact, the Soviets and NASA were in some preliminary plans to form a joint space program to return to the Moon using the Energia rocket.
Is just the Soviet Union collapsed and all that ended in nothing.
The invasion of Ukraine proves Russia isn’t making it to 2050
There's literally the premise of For All Mankind, except without FTL.
yeah, but unlike for all mankind, starfield could actually be somewhat entertaining. i dont know whats with alternate history shows and being fricking painfully boring
>Took until 2050 to get to Mars
It's estimated that the full cost of a crewed Mars mission is in the range of 500 billion dollars.
Good luck getting any government to fund that without a reason that could interest them.
>there is oil on mars
done
>It's estimated that the full cost of a crewed Mars mission is in the range of 500 billion dollars.
Is that it? Sounds like small change for a certain company known for its ties to the energy sector.
For comparison, each Moon landing cost about 1.5 billion, and the government cancelled the Apollo program entirely because they didn't feel like paying that.
I don't think anything save for "We literally found alien ruins" would convince any state to fund a crewed Mars landing.
Just say that Ukraine is located on Mars.
Well, the CURRENT THING americans have arrived, thread's over.
I've been there long before you, frick'o.
Its over
I just don't understand the mentality of americans.
Space and futurism discussion going on and they rather talk about some politician or some third worlder conflict.
Because dwelling on things that aren't real is bad for the mind.
Than why you care so much about American internal politics?
It's things that could exist, it's far more interesting than boring current politics where nothing happens.
See, look at this american, who fricking cares?
It's like their brains can only store a tiny amount of information.
Reminder that the Saturn V, the rocket that took you to the Moon, was designed by Wernher von Braun, a German engineer.
>Wernher von Braun, a American engineer.
He had US nationality, he was born and raised in Germany.
Yup, an American engineer. Sorry Europe, if you wanted to colonize space you shouldn't have conspired to destroy Germany.
You mean Germany destroying Europe for the 10th time in 1500 years ?
Yes, one german guy did everything, he even mined the materials needed and screwed every single frame of the rocket by himself. He also worked shifts at Wendy's to buy the parts.
Black person just because one german led a projet financed and built by the US doesn't mean Germany or Hans the obese NEET get any credit in the space race.
Werner Von Braun gets a ton of credit for the space race. Him being a nazi is immaterial to the space race itself.
Yes, Werner, not Germany, not Europe, Werner and the US.
I agree.
>just because one german led a projet financed and built by the US doesn't mean Germany or Hans the obese NEET get any credit in the space race.
He gets a ton of credit though.
He didn't do everything, but he was the chief designer of the Saturn V, without him the US wouldn't have pulled it off.
The Soviets had a huge head start and were way ahead of the US before they brought von Braun in, and even then the Soviets failed to build a Moon capable rocket.
Hell, the USA's current Moon rocket, the SLS, is pretty much the same as the Saturn V, despite being half a century newer.
>an American engineer.
So, straight up denial.
>Sorry Europe, if you wanted to colonize space you shouldn't have conspired to destroy Germany.
Do I need to remind you on what side of WWII you fought?
Lol, you admit he was an American citizen, yet I am in denial. You poor thing.
>a bunch of papers indicate your country
And that's how countries become 50% white.
I don't think any american citizens were fighting in the nazi army.
There were actually, very few however and they were pretty much all 1st generation immigrants.
>this cope
>third worlder spergs out over space because he'll never be able to get his hands on it and ruin it
Space isn’t real moron
>Yes, I live in mudhuts and I barely have access to clean water, but let me tell you how the world really works
I’m American
You Americans zoomers and millennials know jack shit about science, half of you are flat earthers and the other half thinks cutting off your dick turns you into a woman.
The only thing the USA gets credit for is the Apollo CSM and LM, those were designed by North American Aviation, Boeing and Rocketdyne.
And look at you now. A corporate owned nation of halfbreeds, obese piles of subhuman excrement and braindead monkeypoxing homosexuals predating on children with the full blessing of the very US you're deep throating like a 10 dollar prostitute in the back of an F 150 cab. The US has become a disgrace to mankind and the only way forward is to amputate that cancer. You are in the death throes of it now, writing cheques in Europe you won't be able cash. Even your women openly hate you in movies about children's dolls. That is how much of a bucket of shit the US become. Nobody wants your cancer. Nobody wants a shriveled vampire begging on their doorstep. Yankee go home and die out quietly you corn syrup infused genetic dead ends.
spit
Not American + you're forcing people to take in rapefugees and ruined Europe multiple times. Not my problem.
>he says, currently deepthroating US softpower, on a US website, speaking americanised English, debating about an American game.
Take your meds.
Haha Starfield, hurray!!!!
I agreed about one of the posts you gaylord
>It's like their brains can only store a tiny amount of information.
You forget the contents of my post as you're typing yours, and you say this. Incredible.
Friendly reminder that Europe never went to the moon and never did anything relevant in the space race.
I'll give you the Biden one, but don't act like everyone and their mother isn't sucking off ukroids constantly
Holy shit it's called a joke. Goddamn, Black person.
We don't take kindly to that around here.
He's probably a kraut. Ignore these bugpeople.
Hunter Biden's laptop is on Mars.
>it doesn't recreate every atom in the universe
fricking dropped
already it cannot escape no mans sky's shadow
>largest release of the year
>no leaks whatsoever
Confirmed to be true.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/571316828/
It was leaked this chick (most likely the fourth romance option) is an undercover agent for House Va'ruun
WOW thanks for the spoilers, butthole
No problem, the alien machine thing also leads to someplace called the Unity
>the Unity
Holy shit it does just take place in the Fallout universe
>more manfaced women and joggers
GOD DAMN IT BETHESDA
>first space city found in 2160
>game takes place in 2330
>170 years later and only 4 major cities
We are going to awaken an ancient evil in a new star system and it will be humans.
There, I just gave you the entire story.
it's like...
we were the real monsters...
all along!
>there is a mysterious race of ancient ali-
theyre humans. theyre the first humans that went to space. saved you 60 bucks
It writes itself.
>the ship was on mars because the events of the game are fricked and we went back in time and crashed it there so humans would find it 1000000000000000 years later to crate a closed loop
It writes itself.
>AT-43 vidya never ever
NOOOO WHERES MY LEAKS WHERES MY LETS PLAY WHERES MY ADVERTISING SHOVING THIS GAME DOWN MY THROAT WHETES MY ALPHA WHERES MY BETA WHERES MY DEMO IT MUST BE BAD IT IS RIGHT GUIZE YEP FLOP BETHESDA IS DONE NOBODY WILL PLAY THIS ITS OVER I MUST CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOM NOW NOW NOW WAAAAAAAAH
I don't give a shit about much, I just need a large number of robots to buy/build and field as my crew and I will be happy.
I BETTER get battle droids or some shit
>inb4 day 1 ports for Ada and the ASSultorns
it that’s what has to happen so be it, they better not have fricked this one up, I’ll never forget how fallout 3 had literally only one robot be purchasable from the robot merchant
Todd should embrace memes and make the tell me lies song the launch trailer song.
>Sarah Morgan is over 30
Why are they making us frick a hag ?
You can hit it raw as much as you want
cause she CUTE!
Because ole Benjamin Franklin would approve.
>4 years between human colonization in Alpha Centauri and the establishment of a new capital in it.
What the frick happened to earth? What possible reason would some fledgling colony world be chosen as the capital for a rapidly expanding interstellar colonial empire and not the cradle of humanity with its vast industrial and population base?
Also when Coe founded Akila City was it named as such right from the get go? a bit pretentious isn't it, to name your personal community of 1 a "city"?.
>basing your game off of fake NASA DUDE SCIENCE SHIT
yeah this is gay
>Roscosmos gays on suicide watch as Russia's lack of softpower makes CCCP punk fall into irrelevance.
SAD !
>ancient artefact main plot
yawn.
there was an interstellar war 30 years ago and the organisation you're joining is only 55 years old, this setting is so fricking bad
>unstable setting is unstable
You aren't going to have a space setting at all unless it's stable as frick anon. The amount of time and planning to do anything right needs long term stability.
I pre-ordered the deluxe edition, first time I did this in my life
look at what you done to me, Todd
> We dindu nuffin!
They scream as they pick your pocket. Let no-one suffer the American lest he be willing to give away all that is his, prostitute his wife for their gain and emasculate his children.
How am I supposed to remember all this and star citizen
People here have been so brain rotted by countless sequels, reboots, remakes. That they’re confused when a new IP is establishing lore and every character mentioned doesn’t already have a funko pop and their own spin-off and novel series.
Mass Effect did it but was way more creative than the bland shite we've seen so far from Starfield.
>Mass Effect did it but was way more creative
Black person, the timeline in Mass Effect is fricked.
In just 30 years humanity goes from just having Mars colonies to being spread out all over the Milky Way and having a seat on the Citadel.
Because of element zero moron, that shit is fully explained in like the first hour.
Only thing that explains is their tech development, which is just lazy, they literally just find a bunch of ships on Mars.
The way humanity behaves, the way it gets treated, is one of a species that's been among aliens for generations.
Bear in mind, in Mass Effect, someone could have been born when humanity just had Moon and Mars bases, and by the time they finished studying a career humanity suddenly has hundreds of colonies all over the Milky Way and people who haven't even seen Earth.
And lets not forget that within 30 years they caught up with the Turians in space tech, the ones who were already a space faring species thousands of years ago.
Mass Effect's timeline makes no sense compared to when the games happen, games should have been set at least 100 years later.
Very creative, humans found “le substance” problem solved. What makes you think starfield didn’t write the same hack job shit.
I think he means that 30 years is barely enough to create 1 more generation of humans, unless Earth was already at max capacity or there was a massive baby boom there shouldn't be enough humans to populate every place of note with humans in just 30 years.
They got a seat at the citadel cause they did ok during the first contact war, no?
>They got a seat at the citadel cause they did ok during the first contact war, no?
No, it's after Sovereign is destroyed.
The thing is, you have the Elcor and Volus who have been waiting for literal centuries, and suddenly a bunch of newbies who still used rockets a third of a human lifetime ago get a seat in the governing body of the entire galaxy?
>jellys and space manlets seething
Sounds like a skill issue lole.
Humanity only got to be on the council because they were the main fleet that protected the citadel from the reapers in ME1, to be a council race means you have to satisfy certain security obligations which humanity proved they could do whereas elcor and volus are too militarily weak.
Humanity was basically uplifted by discovering prothean tech in ME, it was just a way to get them out into the galactic community where the interesting shit like the relays and aliens were, even the factions in Starfield sound boring as frick they're just generic cookie cutter stuff like 'Galactic Federaration' and 'Space Cowboys/Rebels' even lore behind simple studd like the mass effect fields and biotics is more in depth and interesting than anything we've seen from Starfield so far.
honestly you're right, whatever happened to the days of not needing everything about a game's background fed to you
It has these shitty animatics (with no voice acting):
https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield/article/ddtEkby0KjT7Vkjj5ycXU/the-settled-systems-a-starfield-animated-anthology
soul
Literally this
>Game didn't came out yet
>WHY ISN'T EVERYTHING SUPER COMPLEX I DON'T KNOW WHO THOSE CHARACTERS ARE I NEED A 100000 THOUSANDS PAGES BOOK ABOUT EVERYTHING EVEN THOUGH THE GAME DID NOT FRICKING CAME OUT IT'S BAD ABDBABDBSBDBDB
Still can't believe these frickers made a huge space rpg with no intelligent aliens meanwhile TES has ten playable races.
It's narratively thematic. Now that we know about the ancient artifact we know why.
All aliens will be humans.
>Humanity has spread across the stars
>Its actually 4 cities
Lol. Never change, Bethesda.
Small studio please understand
Yes however each one of these cities has sixteen times the detail! You see that NPC? You can frick em!
There are smaller towns/settlements across the galaxy. And a lot of people also just live on the staryards we saw in the direct
This timeline fricking sucks. Its just people we don't know joining organizations we don't know. This is shit lore.
It also largely spoils the entire game if you've read any science fiction in your life.
Killzone had better lore
>implying anyone gave a shit about Killzone
tobias.gif
>Deepala
SIR
I TOLD YOU WE WOULD BE SPACE POWER BY 2020 VERILY SIR
The setting seems a bit ripped from Firefly. Cowboy group, Alliance / lawful militaristic group, Megacorp group. Or a lot of things, its the sci fi equivalent of orcs and elves
Firefly is ripped off from Traveler which is ripped off from every sci-fi book from Asimov to Verne. Incestuous propagation of ideas is what makes a genre after all.
>seems a bit ripped off / generic
>well all these other things did it too
frick off next thing you'll be defending lord of the rings for ripping off generic rangers and dwarves and wizards and shit
The point is that there's nothing new under the sun. Anyone who wants to make a compelling fictional story about future science while being grounded to our experience as humans WILL reverse engineer half of the tropes that invented the sci-fi genre in the first place. It's impossible to avoid without delving into disjointed schizo fiction.
>It's impossible to avoid without delving into disjointed schizo fiction.
Speaking of disjointed schizo scifi you should try out Paradigm Worlds. One of the most wild setting to come out of the modding scene.
Nah the point is you're just disagreeing for the sake of it, this shit is the most bland generic story I've ever seen, I'm literally glazing over just looking at this timeline. I'm still gonig to enjoy flying around blasting shit but I'll give no shits about who the frick anyone is adn I bet you can't remember any of it even now
>2257 Flolbert Grankkle joins the Condominium
frick off an AI could do better
When's the last time you actually read a book? Middle school?
Shut the frick up, I'm still buying the game you've no need to cry about some valid criticism
I'm just saying you're going to miss out on the majority of what makes the game good if you're media illiterate.
I've read plenty of books you c**t, I've read more interesting cereal packets than this timeline
>I-I actually do read lots of b-b-books!
>by the way books are what I call cereal boxes
if i was sat having a shit I would find the ingredients of a shampp bottle more enthrallnig than the starfield timeline
FRICK U.C SPACE JANNIES
STARTED TWO WARS BECAUSE 'noooo you're not allowed claim a planet to build a farm on without a permission"
THE ~~*UC*~~ FEARS THE SPACE FARMER
Yo I think that shotgun shoukd be square pal
Perfect 😀
A blurb should get you interested, I've picked up many a book based on the blurb alone. Not interested in picking up the Starfield book so far.
Its bland.
plenty of best selling books with blurbs that you'd put down the book of.
In the end it comes down to taste, and I'm interested in the story.
The best scifi is about ideas for me. This is just a sequence of events in space setting. The worst kind of fiction. There's nothing to make you think, its just: thing happened then thing happened. I still remember shit I read from years ago from buying second hand anthologies of scifi short stories, I won't remember any of this shit and I got a strong feeling its not gongi to very interesting if thats the best they can do.
Sci-fi is a very decisive genre with a lot of branching sub-genres, in how it utilizes the science aspect of it.
I like the idea of a first contact story, multiple generations down the road, and we're getting just into the early wild-west days of the great expanse. The nasa-punk tech as they coined it is great. I'm up to date though to the latest in the modern day space industry, the theories and tech they already use and I'm excited to see how Bethesda extrapolates a more realistic down to earth feeling onto that. It's going to be able the science, the adventure and the story of those who are seeking to control the new expanse.
Yeah I don't mind the concept it s more the dull way they presented it literally just makes my eyes glaze over reading it like trying to take in a shopping list, as if we should give a shit about any of these people at this point. I don't mind the grounded setting, I like Battlestar Galactica for example which is pretty grounded tech-wise, but even that has some philosophical ideas in it like is a toaster alive, has this all happened before and will happen again, and even the suggestion of divine reality in it.
>Yeah I don't mind the concept it s more the dull way they presented it literally just makes my eyes glaze over reading it like trying to take in a shopping list
Have you considered at all that maybe it isn't an issue with what you're reading and you've instead just got a lot of mental baggage associated with Bethesda so you look at everything they put out like it's going to shoot your dog?
>you've instead just got a lot of mental baggage associated with Bethesda so you look at everything they put out like it's going to shoot your dog?
not him. but yeah i think that's the reason why people are questioning this
BD3 writing is not that good or bad, yet it's only being praised because larian
Have you considered why you are defending something against a criticism as if it is a personal attack on you? I have no baggage with bethesda, I've predorder the game and am looknig for ward to playing it. ANd I can still look at it objectively and say that the story so far is uninspired banal tripe. Bu as I will be playing mostly for the gameplay and immersion rather than the shitty story, probably doesn't even matter.
>shitty story
>judging the story before even actually playing the game
i mean the anon you were talking has got a point
I'm judging he story so far as presented so far.
>Its a dry historical timeline
Exactly yeah, and thats boring. You saying its meant to be boring? That was their choice to make it boring. I know there was a war between some united guys and some free guys, and then andreja did something, and barrett, fricking barret, he just knew that srtifact was special. Holy shit I'm so invested already.
>Exactly yeah, and thats boring.
To a mouth-breathing cretin like you sure, but I enjoyed history class. Subhuman IQ trash like you are the reason I get to see my facebook feed filled with shared posts from equally subhuman apes I went to school with sharing some historical fact and saying "WE DIDNT LEARN THIS IN HISTORY CLASS" when I know for a fact we did Robin, you just were to busy gossiping with your friends giggling about Chad Thunderwiener starting QBs dick instead of paying attention.
Ok so andreja joined constellation in what year? don't look
A few years before the events of the main story taking place
Fascinating. And who is andreja, and why is it relevant to know when she joined?
We don't know yet anon! the game isn't out, they also didn't show Andreja in the direct, so obviously it's someone important to the story that Bethesda is waiting to share with us.
Exactly! So we've been told when someone we know nothing about joined the thing. If we already knew something about andreja, this might be interesting. AS IT IS, it is meaningless, because we nothing about this person. I'm sure we will meet her or him or them and they will be super important, but AT THIS POINT, it is meaningless information. Do you see?
We know this person is important to the story of starfield, and now I have a general outline of the history of the starsystem my character is going to be in, the company they're going to be working for, and the names of who my prominent coworkers are.
none of this is meaningless information as it's directly relevant to a game I'm playing day 1 early access hour 1.
Sorry you're a brainlet who can't comprehend how a timeline is beneficial
Well I guess we'll have to agree to disagree because this discussion is boring too. When you meet Andreja, be sure to say out loud "OH its Andreja I read about her on the timeline, she joined a few years ago.", and say hello to barret for me.
Everything is boring to you, except apparently spending hours on end telling anonymous people what you find boring
What a sad pathetic life you lead
Yeah probably true, but at least I know it. We're both in this boat together, and i'm just expressing my unbiased opinion, and you're fighting back on the defensive like you are personally offended by criticism of the game.
Well no, you stated your opinion and I told you it was wrong.
you could've walked away at any point, while I got my time to discuss the game like I wanted.
I think the game looks great btw, the action in particular looks really good for bethesda, or for anyone for that matter. I am ok with it being action RPG oriented and not bothered if its not the deepest RPG in the world. A good story would be great too, but I'm not inspired by generic space factions having a war and all that so far. Maybe the ancient alien parts will be good, maybe it willall be fantastic idk, but I don't think anyone who is a sci fi fan can genuinely say its this is interesting history. So I feel that you must just be defending it out of some kind of loyalty or personal attachment rather than being objective. A can be great and you love it but still maybe this poart of it is not so good?
but it's not the actually story anon, it's historical tidbits for you to learn what has happened before leading up to current events in the game
Its a historical timeline, it's purpose is to solely give people an idea of the chain of events in the main storyline so if you want to roleplay as someone who knows the lore of the constellation company, etc you already have a general idea of what's going on.
It's not supposed to be written as some historical fluff piece to get you to buy the book, that's what the direct was for in showing off how the gameplay and world looks. This is just a dry historical timeline of events to get you prepared for the universe you're entering, so when someone ingame references the Narion wars, you know it roughly took place from 2196-2216 on your history nerd character orr whatever and how far back that relates to the timeframe you're playing in.
That's because it's just a timeline moron. What themes starfield decides to tackle and whether they're executed well remains to be seen. Keep in mind the lead writer is Shen not Emil so "it's bethesda of course it will be shallow" doesn't really apply here
Genuinely don't have the words to describe how moronic your post is, talking as if a vague timeline of events leading up to the stories beginning is the substance of the story itself
Its titled "the story so far, and they chose to present it as a dry list of things happening in the most dull and uninspired way possible. They didn't have to write it like that, they could have written it like a blurb:
"In 2050 the human race finally conquered the planet mars under the leadership of president elonk mewsk. In 50 years they were no longer tethered to the mother world, but were free, spacefarers, and ready to venture forth into the void..."
>middle school creative writing class drivel full of tropes is your example of what they should've done
and these are the people who unironically expect you to hold their opinions in high regard
Better than what they did, I already want to know more
what they wrote was way worse than the original though lmao
Holy shit have a nice day.
kino
That would require the writers to have soul
>generic globalhomosexual star trek fantasy not bounded in any interesting lore or geopolitcs
Review codes are going out later this week, supposedly before the 17th https://twitter.com/_Tom_Henderson_/status/1691188293008838656?t=F5h8pDVZzvzs5sI6su9HKQ&s=19
Nice, look forward to getting my review code soon. Starting a youtube channel paid off.
This is Todd. I’m revoking your code for talking about it.
>Emil was in charge of writing the space pirate faction
what else has he written in the past?
the main story of skyrim and fallout 4
Not Skyrim no. In Skyrim he was in charge of the Dark Brotherhood and generic dialogue. "Arrow in the knee" was written by him and it wasn't intended to be a meme
Fallout 3&4 main quests are his work
Sonysisterhoodbros.... how do we recover from not being able to play this on our PS5s? wtf this is bullshit.....
That's all well and good but where are the horny blue skinned alien babes?
in the expansion dlc
I don't hate readin at all, I hate reading boring shit, you seem to have a real low intelligence score
>generic space group A did a thing
>generic space group B didn't like it
>group A and group B went to war
>then the war ended and they agreed to not war
>then person A joined group C
>a bit later person B joined group C
now just fill in random shit foir the names
>pointless reductionism garbage
no anon, you dont have a point. I could do that to any of your favorite books, but you dont have any because you dont read.
Do you think this is a good interesting story so far?
its a timeline of events.
I think the setting and lore we've seen so far is interesting yes, first contact stories are some of the best in science fiction
A timeline of events with names of people that you have no idea of who they are or anything about them. A list basically, a list of names and dates they did a thing. Do you enjoy reading lists? Thats your idea of good lore? This is eciting you is it, seeing a list of names that at this point mean nothnig to you and a date they joined something? Honestly a fricking kid in english class could write a more interesting timeline foir an assigment, I could write a more interesting sequence of events when writing a to-do list for the day.
Your baby rage right now is the literal equivalent to reading the 2 paragraph blurb on the back of a GoT book and going "WHO THE FRICK IS NED START? WHOSE THIS JON SNOW TWINK? WHY THE FRICK WOULD I CARE. SHIT STORY, SSHIT BOOK moronic FRICKING WRITING" and then throw it in the trash.
You're simply put acting like a moron arguing in bad faith for the sake of arguing
Yeah who are these characters? I wonder if there will be some kind of game where I can talk to them and learn more and they will gain their relevance.
I think some of them are the characters we met during the E3 coverage
There's no aliens, that alone makes anything set in this world boring because Bethesda can't write complex humans. And if there's nothing BUT humans (till the end of the main quest maybe, and I doubt those aliens will rejoin the galaxy), well get ready for fallout 4 in space (but extra boring cause no Fallout lore to fallback on)
The duality of sci-fi nerds
who cares I'm playing ff16 still
>Bethesda game has actual different children models and not just shrunk down adult models
is Bethesda actually attempting to improve?!?!
I will now buy your game
Can't wait to meet barrett, he's the main man so far in my view
I like him more than Sam "we wuz cowboys" Coe
There are going to be sex mods where I can have a relationship with my mother.
>one year after the coom scene has settled down
This is even more bland than Elite Dangerous lore, which is infamously generic and fricking 10 years old at this point
>Freestar Ranger Sam Coe and his daughter Cora join Constellation
>and his daughter
No thanks Bethesda, his wife probably got sick of his cowboy LARP and dumped him. Barrett is the only vanilla male option for romance I guess.
I hope they explained how SOL works in ships. 2100s seems a too little early for discovery of other systems. I get that it's fiction but were almost a quarter away from 2050 and I find humans going to mars unbelievable.
Living in space by 2100 I assume refers to people living long term in space stations or on colonies that are within the solar system. Presumably the grav drive is then invented which lets them leave and reach Alpha Centauri (closest star system) in 2156.
>I get that it's fiction but were almost a quarter away from 2050 and I find humans going to mars unbelievable.
Most popular propositions for manned missions to Mars aim for the 30s so I found the 2050s date interestingly grounded by comparison.
>Most popular propositions for manned missions to Mars aim for the 30s so I found the 2050s date interestingly grounded by comparison.
I just looked into that, for now, 4 people are prepping themselves for the mission. To me, it's crazy to imagine being separated from Earth to a distant planet and hope nothing fricks up.
if they actually get their boots on Martian soil, they will instantly reach living legend status
will it be worth it to take the perk at the beginning that starts you with a house? can't you build a comfy house/base on any planet?
test
I feel like the word generic is getting said a lot
So theres probably gonna be a bunch of united people saying "cowboys bad" and a bunch of cowboys saying "united bad" but really there's just different factions that mean nothing to us really we weren't involved in any of it or have anything to go off the make any kind of choice one way or the other. Its eems like juts territorial rather than idealogical.
Reminder that the capital city of a faction that fought an interstellar colonial empire to a stand still doesn't even have paved fricking roads.