ATTENTION ALL ANONS WHO LIVE IN EUROPE, AUTRALIA OR BRAZIL
or
ANYONE THAT HAS EVER OWNED THE CREW REGARDLESS OF COUNTRY
You now have the ability to legally screw over Ubisoft for their greedy actions in shutting down the videogame "The Crew" and in doing end the practice of killing videogames forever.
stopkillinggames.com
QRD or frick off, Kraut.
Ubisoft closed The Crew servers and now it's completely unplayable to paying customers.
>The Crew released in 2014
Literally nothing wrong with the servers shutting down. Anyone still playing it in 2024 is mentally unwell.
>Nothing wrong with taking a product you bought from you
Clown
It's been ten years. No amount of moving the goal posts will change how sad it is to still be playing it enough to care.
Black person
>slurs unprovoked
Quality response. Exactly what I'd expect from someone mad about a 10 year old game shutting its servers down.
>a game and a home are the same thing
I'll give you this (you) since it's apparently so important to you.
>WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TAKE AWAY THE PRODUCTS YOU PAID FOR GOY
>theft is not theft because the value isn't the same
mexican. Has to be.
No amount of goal posts will change how gay it is to defend owning nothing.
Yes anon it's totally fair to pay full price for a game then have that basically useless down the line
>You'll own NOTHING and BE HAPPY
have a nice day, Ubisoft.
I don't care about your moral judgments. I bought a thing, I own it. You making it so that I cannot utilize it anymore even though it is perfectly functional is sabotage. You taking my access to it away or barring it, is theft or obstruction of property. have a nice day, bootlicker.
Ross was you moronic moron
>slave away 50 years to buy house
>10 years later realtor just take back the house you bought
>moronic Black folk such as this anon defend this
What if it happened to a game you liked?
If the demand is there, private servers arise for online only games.
Quit crying and learn to code, sweetie
>Taking away products you paid for is ok because.......
it's an online only game. do you think a company is entitled to provide you servers to play with for 60+ years? what's the line, my little moron? let's ignore that you clicked "I agree" to their terms and conditions which state its an online only game and they can basically shut servers down at any point.
simply ignore them? wowwee.
Just a reminder that zoomers think that computers are magic so a request like "make it so the game doesn't require you to be connected to their server" is like asking someone to cast a magic spell. They think that it's either literally impossible or extremely difficult because of how tech illiterate they are.
>t. unemployed nodev moron
>Taking away products you paid for is ok because.......
They didn't take away anything. They stopped supporting the servers. You can still open it and access it all the files, and reverse engineer the thing to create your own independent servers to host the game on.
Really, it's your fault for investing so much in a....*checks notes*....racing game....from...*fixes glasses*...ubisoft...
Because you're a live service playing subhuman and you deserve it
You literally aren't allowed to play single player/multiplayer xbox arcade games anymore because of this practice
You fricking moron, it's not about them keeping the servers up forever.
It's about them simply adding the ability for players to keep the game alive themselves, such as allowing dedicated servers ran by users.
>DMCAs you
What now, frickboi?
How would you have felt if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?
Private servers for these sorts of games are illegal. That's what we're trying to change.
>Private servers for these sorts of games are illegal.
So is going 5 mph over the speed limit. And yet guess what I do every day on my way to your mom's house?
You’re not even old enough to have a driver’s license.
You'll have to phrase the question differently for them to understand it, they don't like video games.
t. ubisoft israelite
Watch the video for frick sake, is that really too much to ask?
It's not about The Crew, it's about setting a precedent to stop destroying games that (you) bought and using The Crew as the test case.
Exquisite bait, I won't be giving (You)s to your other replies however
What a subhuman. Bugs like you are why things are the way they are.
Fabulous bait, if only (you)s were an actual currency.
Somebody dial 911, somebody is about to die.
welcome to contrarian hellhole anons
>chess
>originated in the 600s
it's time to shutdown the ability to play chess tbh
have a nice day
no for real do it
It's about the principle anon
Ubisoft hands typed these posts.
>if I defend shitty anti-consumer practices, I'll surely benefit from in when I'm the CEO of Fortune 500 company
This is unironically why I'd never do any game dev myself. I am not being legally accountable to udpate my $5 shitty game that hasn't sold a single copy for 10 years for the rest of my life to ensure it's compatible with all the OS and GPU changes along the decades just because of legal liability
This isn't about updating a game forever, it's about ensuring the game is at the very least playable 10-20 years from now, be that using a private server or emulation of some kind
Anon is deeply moronic to have even made that stretch. You're wasting your time.
The Qrd is in the OP.
There is a legal case being made against Ubisoft for shutting down the videogame "The Crew".
By getting a legal case against Ubisoft it will set a precedent making shutting down videogames illegal.
why don't people just not buy games if they disagree with the business model? like most people here are fine with not buying p2w or gacha style games. same thing goes for online-only. literally just stop buying them. make tough decisions like a big boy and stop insisting on playing shit games forever.
>Goy d-don't make taking away products you bought illegal just don't buy it goy
Shut the frick up
>Buy game on Xbox arcade even a single player one
>Can't play it any more because it requires xbox servers to even start
i have no problem with this. i would also have no problem if Walmart came to my house and took all my groceries back without refunding me for them and said it was company policy.
how about we shoot CEOs in the face if they think that disabling single player games whenever they feel is a good idea.
frick you for not giving a shit.
>why don't people just not buy games if they disagree with the business model?
why not both not buying the game but also hoping they get raped in court for fricking over the consumers that do? these things are not mutually exclusive
have a nice day
Ubisoft screwed over The Crew fanbase by cancelling the servers without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
Why would I ever buy ubislop?
Why would I do anything for the kind of person who does buy ubislop?
You don't have to have bought the game. If you have lived in Europe, Brazil or Australia you can legally still hurt Ubisoft.
>you can legally still hurt Ubisoft
As someone who already doesn't give Ubisoft money why would I do this?
You want to own your games, don't you? It's not about just Ubisoft, it sets the precedent for everyone.
Why wouldn't want to you hurt Ubisoft?
Correct me if i'm wrong, but it says on the website that we can't until the eu says we can, we have to wait what could be months, however as soon as we can the vote will be open for one year. I don't own the game
Learn how to read moron
>first they came for ubishit andyni said nothing
>then they came for nintendo nerds and i said nothing
>then they came for me
christ what a grift
I agree. Games as a service is a grift. That is why we are hoping to kill it.
You never even played the game, shut the frick up holy shit.
>Shill defending games as a service
>Black personhomosexual tourist getting mad about things that never affected him and telling others who were also never affected to get mad too
>I never had a game I liked have it's servers shut down
Clown
>Giving someone money once means they have to spend the money to support you forever
Frick off, big government c**t.
What difference does that make? It still sets a precedent to force companies not to take games away from you. Why in the frick would you argue against better consumer rights unless you're a fricking shill?
>Spend money on a product whose terms say it will not be supported forever, as paying salaries actually costs money
>It ends up not being supported forever
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOW
Let me guess, you're an unemployed homosexual mooching gibs and living with your parents?
Scale it back. You're being too obvious.
Just calling a gay (You) a gay, anon.
Weird how you homosexuals scream when you get banned from a $70 online game for saying Black person and how that shouldn't feel like stealing but then a game going offline with zero way of playing it now is not stealing and perfectly find because "it's in the ToS".
So now you agree with the ToS?
Cool strawman but people screaming Black person ingame deserve to get banned for being morons. If you accept the ToS with your money then get fricked if you can't follow them.
It's not about lack of support you disingenuous shill. It's about the game being intentionally designed so that it requires that constant support to play and then pulling the plug and fricking everyone over. Make an offline mode or implement dedicated servers. At the very least do these things when the game is about to reach the end of its support lifetime. That isn't asking very much.
>The company should have to pay developers to convert the backend that's designed for a distributed architecture, because that's how MMOs are designed in the first place, into something that reactionary dipshits that never played the game can run at home from the dedicated server tab of Steam, and also the government should enforce this at gunpoint
Nodev. moron.
>Taking away products you paid for is ok because.......
Because
ONLINE ONLY GAME FOR GOD SAKE
There's an offline mode, they've just encrypted it away from the public
fricking what?
>it's slightly worse than I remember
https://steamcommunity.com/app/241560/discussions/0/3803901559414708777/
Unless it is some fricktarded cloud bullshit like Titanfall and virtually no other games use, it is trivial to make dedicated servers. Dedicated servers used to be the default hosting option but that didn't give these companies enough control over what their users can or can't do. It's a two way street, Black person. Now it's time to pay for fricking people over.
You're incapable of killing it. Just like you're incapable of stopping companies from forcing paid mods.
The only thing that could ever stop them is impossible because humans are so fricking moronic that they still pay to get fricked in the ass, even when it's free.
The most you could hope out of a moronic case like this is refunds for people who have under X amount of hours played.
Paid shill
>NO GOY YOU CAN'T WIN
GG2 proved otherwise
>Just like you're incapable of stopping companies from forcing paid mods.
Valve backpeddled on day fricking 1 when people b***hed about it.
>Valve
That's because Valve is privately owned and knows if they frick up massively, they kill their company.
Ubisoft and others are publically traded, they answer to shareholders. Not their houses.
They should have made if playable offline or give a group of people the server tools to host their own servers.
Quit making shit games for a start.
Mods fear him
Not an officially sanctioned eceleb
You can post Asmongold's reaction when he does that though, since he's working for the billion dollar eceleb agency connected to Disney
I assure you, I've been boycotting Ubisoft for a lot longer than whatever shit game you're mad about.
The difference is this will legally make the israeli practices of Ubisoft illegal and you don't even have to have owned the game if you lived in the EU, Australlia or Brazil
consumer union will make studios shit on their pants.
Ishallah brothers!
fast walk through?
Go to the website.
ESPECIALLY if you live in the EU (France in particular) or in Australia
Crew 1 is better than 2.
Look at this thread, this is a board dedicated to game. The ONE place where something like this should be a no-brainer but you've got half the thread scoffing sitting smugly like Reddit types huffing farts that this won't do anything, while doing nothing themselves.
Honestly, what the frick is wrong with you gays that you don't want to keep the games you bought?
Not owning your games is ok to you? Why the frick are you even here?
Black person it's an online ONLY game. From fricking Ubisoft of all people. If you really believe they should run the servers FOREVER and EVER on a game that's quite dated, then you're the fricking moron here.
>b-b-b-but I paiddddd $50 for phantasy star online for the PlayStation 2 20 years ago, WHY CANT I PLAY ONLINE ANYMORE???
Fricking moron. Grow up and pirate shit, or actually let's do this: get some better taste. racing games fricking suck.
>Taking away products you paid for is ok because.......
because you agreed for it to be taken away. Why'd you click the yes box if you weren't okay with it?
You fricking morons. This applie to single player console games as well. Did you know that every game on your xbox/playstation that you don't physically own require the server to start?
When the ps4 servers go down you wont be able to play bloodborne any more.
>Did you know that every game on your xbox/playstation that you don't physically own require the server to start?
this isn't true. you either didn't test it yourself, or didn't set up your console correctly.
digital playstation games work offline indefinitely if your console is activated as your account's primary console. this lets you use all your digital licenses offline. and you can do it for any account on the console, not just one.
you're just limited to one primary console per account, so you can't easily abuse it to share games.
Did you know that console is the only way to play many multiplats from last gen entirely offline? On PS4 at least you can pop a new disc and play, in a vacuum. How are you going to play on PC? For most of them you're going to download and play through steam, and after you're all checked and ready online they might let you play offline without incident
So tell you what, I'll sign your Crew petition if you disavow PC poz drm like steam
Because it effects consoles as well israelite zoomer
Shutting down the server for a single multiplat game, that I wasn't going to play anyway
vs
Most of the pc market held hostage by valve accounts and servers
Which one are we going to war over again?
>It's an online only game
That you bought and it was sold to you as a product to own not rent, watch the video it's explained.
You still own the files. Reverse engineer the game and host your own servers. You won't do that though, will you. It costs money to host game servers. lmao.
Watch the video and it's all explained.
>If you really believe they should run the servers FOREVER and EVER on a game that's quite dated
If you did even a bit of reading, you'd know that nobody is asking ubisoft to do this.
>Black person it's an online ONLY game
for no good reason
>If you really believe they should run the servers FOREVER and EVER
If they're going to stop running the servers, then they should add support for dedicated servers. If they don't they should be sued into the ground by countries with decent consumer rights laws. That should be the standard.
>a massively multiplayer game is online only for "no good reason"
holy shit you are a fricking moron
stop talking yesterday
Last I checked any moron in his basement can host a FFXII or WoW private server and this is WITHOUT developers raising a finger, only using reverse engineering.
Firstly no, FFXII is not an online game. Secondly the only reason WoW private servers are currently allowed is due to Blizzard not sending out Cease and Desist notices due to the legality issues which this entire thing is to correct.
You are obviously too young to remember the Nostralius WoW private server that was shut down by Blizzard, sent a C&D.
You know I meant FFXI.
>is due to Blizzard not sending out Cease and Desist notices due to the legality issues which this entire thing is to correct.
Precedent will need to be set the theoretical day Blizzard decides to stop hosting but also simultaneously decides that private servers should not be allowed to exist either.
>WITHOUT developers raising a finger, only using reverse engineering
reverse engineers aren't developers? ok anon
the difference between hobbyists and employees is that companies have to pay employees.
the difference between the original server software and one created by community reverse engineering is that they have 0 code in common.
hope that helps you figure out the difference.
Your entire post seems to dodge the point which is that reverse engineering and building a functional product is significantly more work than just taking the already existing functional product from the onset and releasing it, and that in these cases it would be trivial for these companies to just have released their own internal hosting tools. Adding in a load balancer or whatever else is not a significant complication to self hosting a private server.
My point is the product needs to always be functional, whether it is hosted by the company or an end user and this small amount of extra work to release the tools the company is already using to host to the public when the decide they no longer want to pay the extremely cheap hosting costs is an extremely small ask.
>it would be trivial for these companies to just have released their own internal hosting tools
unemployed people don't get to talk about what's "trivial" in a business context
it's incredibly obvious you don't know what the frick you're talking about
Nice to see you move from goalposting about "nodevs" to "the unemployed". Appeals to authority are not an argument. The product isn't functional because the company in question intentionally broke it and it's really that simple.
While you're going
>just release proprietary code
>simple as
There will be unironic "yes" replies to this and I will laugh at each and every one of them
I'm not asking for proprietary code. I'm asking for the bare minimum to make the product functional again. Those are binaries. No source code.
Yeah, you nailed the non-argument. Glad you've conceded after goalposting and appealing to authority.
Sorry, StallmanFan420 has filed a lawsuit in EU court saying the (proprietary) binaries don't run on his system and he needs the source code in order for Ubisoft to fulfill its legal obligations.
kek, I nailed it huh?
>then they should add support for dedicated servers.
Sure. it should've been there in the first place. but its UBISOFT for fricks sake.
last post in the thread. I'm going to be enjoying City of Heroes, a game that was no longer supported by its parent company, and then private servers were put up for it because there was a demand, and now those private servers are legal.
Get fricked gaygoootssssss, you should never have trusted UBISOFFFFTTTTT
>I hate Ubisoft, they’re a bunch of c**ts!
>NOOOOOOOO! DON’T SUE UBISOFT! YOU CAN’T DO THIS!!!!!!
have a nice day.
it actually has a single player mode that doesn't require you to be online and functionality to generate AI fake player traffic. all the races can be run against the cpu.
This the new chud obsession of the month?
What, couldn't find a new actual target to harass so you just charge windmills now?
IF YOU ARE READING THIS POST AND LIVE IN EUROPE (or Australia) GO TO THE WEBSITE AND SCREW OVER UBISOFT
Assume I'm a pirategay who hasn't bought a ubisoft game since Two Thrones, how is this my problem?
Because you can't pirate a game that requires central servers to work.
The Crew could be entirely singleplayer and I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole, I'm not going to war over it
As for other central server games there's The Division which I was interested in until I got the chance to play it, expanding the scope beyond ubishit I still can't think of a central server game worth giving any amount of shits about that isn't explicitly multiplayer and not just tethering you there to be a c**t
see
See
Fricking linking me to a post about console games you daft c**t
>Taking away products you paid for is ok because.......
You're so unbelievably short sighted I'm surprised you can find your way to the bathroom in the morning.
I keep two bins by the doorway for a reason
all these moments will be lost in time
like tears in rain
time to die
>tfw you're one of the few morons that not only own this game, but actively played for a while
also i fricking miss old /ovg/
>second day of april
>the new rightoid botm spam is already in full swing
Glad that jannies get paid exactly what the are worth.
>Taking away products you paid for is ok because.......
>consumer rights is a right leaning /misc/tard fight
Rightoids are in favor of corporate ownership, moron. Update your direction shittery.
Bad post.
>all it took for the left to become corporate wienersuckers was for companies to change their logo to be rainbow colored for one month out of the year
Incredibly fricking sad.
>buys slop
>gets fricked over
>what the frick!!
you get what you deserve, if you buy a pile of shit you can't petition the government to make that shit less shit
>people finally want to push back against live service garbage and not owning games
>it's over a racing game that is identical to all other racing games
Doesn't matter. Making it illegal make it illegal for all live service games and all games that require an online connection to play including single player console games.
>a racing game that lets you drive across a detailed map of the entire united states
>other game
ok which one
Not an amerimutt so a detailed map of the US sounds more of a detriment than anything
it's ok they made it as small as yu-rop so given a top spec car and an average speed of over 200 mph you can go from New York to sf in about 30 minutes.
Does it turn into GTA when you drive through Detroit?
The land is the best part of this godforsaken country. That's pitifully spiteful.
Why can't you Black folk fricking read? He's only doing it because ubisoft is a French company and the frogs have better consumer protection laws. The game could've been Just Dance on the wii for all we care, it's about setting precedent
The only precedent that's going to be set is Ross Scott being laughed out of French Court for demanding that Ubisoft support a game's online servers indefinitely, or alternatively release proprietary code to allow the public to do so.
Ubisoft treats this as DRM. It being online with a plug capable of being pulled is the point, it's to ensure you bought the game legally. Its servers going offline is just business.
>Taking away products you paid for is ok because.......
Okay, let's say you bought a VHS tape. You own that VHS tape. But oh no! VHS players are no longer sold! So you're going to SUE Hollywood to FORCE them to support your outdated format because I OWN THE THING, I HAVE RIGHTS, YOU OWE ME THIS!
Spoilers: You don't have these rights, you own plastic.
That's like saying watching someone else playing video games counts as playing video games youreelr.
No, this would be equivalent to if the company that sold you the vhs tape had a built-in kill-switch that would destroy your copy of the video after 10 years.
Ho much are you getting paid per post?
>f French Court for demanding that Ubisoft support a game's online servers indefinitely
not what the argument is you moron, they could release an offline version instead
But the game uses online as DRM, to prevent piracy? Why should Ubisoft remove anti-piracy measures?
You are moronic. You cant take other peoples goods away and then say the only reason they cant keep it is because of piracy. You buy a product you own it. You cant retroactively take it when and come up with dumb shit like this moron
>You buy a product you own it
You own a ticket to access Ubisoft's playground, if they decide to close the playground you have no right to continue to access it.
Everything you just said is absolute nonsense that is not backed by any law or court.
https://www.techtarget.com/searchcio/definition/software-license
moron when you buy a game, you are buying THE GAME, there is nothing on that box or anywhere on the store that says you are buying a license. That is why this argument is shit and doesnt work.
Wrong, you bought a software licence. Please read the TOS.
>TOS
You mean the thing that keeps getting tossed out of courts? Yeah no dumbfrick
perpetual license
>to prevent piracy
>piracy is prevented by no longer allowing anyone who paid for it to play it
this is on top of the idea that Ubisoft can just sell an offline version of the game and maybe lose money due to piracy instead of throwing it into the incinerator and definitely losing money
>demanding that Ubisoft support a game's online servers indefinitely
He never argued for this
>alternatively release proprietary code to allow the public to do so
Is it really such an insane demand to let people continue to play the game they bought somehow? In the crew case they wouldn't even need to release code, just let people play offline single-player.
And even if it is a long shot, it's still a shot worth taking. The idea that games in the future will all be on death timers sucks
>Ross Scott being laughed out of French Court for demanding that Ubisoft support a game's online servers indefinitely
Gotta get this ritual post every thread
SO long it fricks SHARTsoft in the ass?
I am fricking in
I think the first problem this is going to face is demographics of Zoomers and Gen Alpha don't care enough to own their games. Look at this thread and the loudest shouting
>WHY DO YOU CARE ABOUT ONLINE GAME
Are all very young and naïve.
They don't understand it's not about this singular game, it's about using The Crew as a legal case to test the legality of destroying a product that you paid for, that was sold to you as a game to own. You bought it, you weren't renting.
i for one would give my left nut for open modding and custom servers
people did it for test drive unlimited and this is literally the same game by the same people
there isn't anything quite like going on an adventure with the bros
Setting right disingenuous claims in these threads
>The company can't just keep it up forever!1!
No one said they have to. Devs should have the right to end support whenever they want. It's the fact that support is NEEDED for a game to function which is the problem. Epic stopped supporting the Unreal games years ago, and you can still play them online. Why? Cause the tools to run our own servers are there, and has lengthened the life of games that provide such tools
>EULAs!!1
Not legally binding
Even if the terms of service say they can stop support, they still have no grounds to do so. If you paid for the game with a single upfront cost, no subscription involved, then it's classed as a 'good' and you have full ownership rights over your copy. Anything they do from then on to brick your copy of the game is grounds for fraud.
>The Crew sucks lol
Yeah for you and me maybe. But so what? I'm sure more than a few people enjoy it for what it is, and want to preserve their copy of the game. Just don't complain when that game you do like gets killed off
I agree in theory but I disagree with your methods and as such will not participate in your campaign, the game was always marketed as a service to begin with anyway
>I'm a israelite and please don't take part in this goy
How much are you getting paid per post?
I'm israeli by the way
frick ubisoft up the ass with rusty tetanus pokers
Nobody actually believes what you're saying, you're just saying whatever you think will get you the most attention.
>Please sign this petition that will help build a case to stop the destruction of the games you bought
>No I don't think I will, why should I care my games that I paid money for are destroyed? They'd old and I will never want to play them again, not once new thing good old thing bad owning is so overrated anyway
I knew things were bad, but the now it's a common sentiment even on here it's pretty telling how fricking apathetic you've all become.
israelite a few years ago we were all laughing and meming about the WEF marketing they sent out >"It is the year 2030 and you will own nothing and be happy"
We're still 6 years away from that projected date and you gays sleep walked into it already.
man and I got my copy of the crew for free
I never played this and I'm not in any position to do anything but if I could I would. Live service games are a fricking blight.
Guys go post on Ganker in your country's thread.
>uk
>france
>australia + NZ + baltics
>germany
This is literally about trying to save the games we bought for, how is it now related to games? HOW?
No I mean go post "stopkillinggames.com" there in addition of discussing it here. We need to go beyond having a circlejerk on Ganker.
what the frick did i walk into to see so many shills working different angles and an eceleb homosexual
People want to stay good boy slaves and not own anything.
Big tech is so strong, they have 24/7 pajeet shills ITT
Hey ross.
>you're asking a AAA developer to patch an always online racing game they released several years ago to work offline instead of making it permanently unplayable? heh good luck, no one would ever-
>AIIIIIIIEEEEEE SAVE ME Black personMAN
Lot of respect to Ross for this.
AAA has gotten away with too much bullshit for too long. This is how you actually get shit done.
That people are in support of these practices enough to shill for a corporation like Ubisoft is the reason I have so many other hobbies now. Frick this stupid hobby and its brainless consumers.
I doubt anyone arguing on the pro-ubisoft side here is being sincere
Big tech gonna do big tech thing to frick over customer
Yeah honestly I'm quite jaded due to people actually sucking up all the MTX and gacha bullshit lately. But there's still a strong core of people who want actual, playable video games so I'm not giving up quite yet.
These are (you)farmers and literal actual shills.
It is in fact you and your ilk who support these practices buy buying shit you hate then b***hing about it
Ubisoft has never seen a penny of mine, I've done my duty, yet here you are shrieking in my ear about how vidya's dead because I'm not jumping through hoops for your terrible purchasing decisions
Why should you have to have bought the game to rally against shitty corpo tactics like this? You can do more than not just buying ubislop.
>corpo
Where did you pick that word up?
>Ubisoft has never seen a penny of mine,
Same, I have literally missed out on almost 2 decades worth of ubislop games at this point because of their anti-consumer practices. But you are fricking moron if you think I'm not going to participate in nailing them to the wall for the way they act and making an example out of them.
Anon, you responded to. I actually don't buy things that I don't support. I'm able to do that and support the idea of these companies getting some comeuppance.
You are either against the corpo or you a with the corpo, there is no middle ground.
have a nice day.
When did you start using the term corpo?
mods fear the mold
>EULA says they will frick you over
>hit the [AGREE] button
>get mad when they do exactly what they said they were gonna do
We're going to teach these companies a lesson guys, just sign my petition
Ah yes the EULA's the court's keep voiding because they are full of dogshit and unreadable for the common man those null and void.
moron have a nice day
>unreadable for the common man
That's not their problem.
The way it is written is to perfectly justify them legally doing exactly what they did to The Crew without being able to get in any trouble for it. They already planned ahead to cutting this game off and it being in their right to do so. Maybe you and everyone else in these threads should have planned ahead and not bought a game that was marketed as always online.
>The way it is written is to perfectly justify them legally doing exactly what they did to The Crew without being able to get in any trouble for it.
No it isn't. EULA"s and TOS's these days are filled with too much legal jargon that courts constantly find themselves throwing out case after case. It actually does indeed need to be simple and easy to read and understand for it to be valid. I'm sorry you moronic
Caveat emptor.
Far better option than getting the government involved. In my case even more so than they already are. Consumer protections seem all well and good until the government comes in and starts banning games and content it deems harmful and there's very little you can legally do about it. Or even worse, you could end up in a communist utopia like China that literally mandates a maximum time you can spend on video games, because it hurts productivity.
if the game doesn't fundamentally require a centralized server to work they could even patch it to use P2P multiplayer instead of dedicated servers
sega recently did this for border break since they didn't want to support it anymore, it's still playable with just PSN master servers as a result
Do you think Ubisoft or another publisher would pay someone to infiltrate the mod team on Ganker? I'm almost certain this has already happened on r*ddit. Some subs are 90% corporate ads. There's several users that do nothing but spam corporate links all day and their posts don't get deleted, even if it's against official r*ddit policy.
You don't even need an account to shitpost here, just hire some "social media influencers/engineers" on fivers and pajeets will do it
yeah but a mod has more influence
they can let more corrupted mods in the team and eventually have enough sway to change internal policy
>Our portfolio: One of our member is a moderator in largest anonoymous forum
this but unironically
I'm 99% sure this is what happens on r*ddit
look at this user's history in particular: old.reddit.com/user/turbostrider27
he's not a mod but the mods allow him to post
you can't say with a straight face this guy does it for free
>pay for online only game
>servers shut down a decade later
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO HOWWWWWWW COULD THIS HAPPEN!!!!????
but its not online only
obviously anyone who bought the game was on the dim side or didn't care about being out the money, but that isn't the point. the point is to disincentivize making games like this which will inevitably become unplayable or crippled later when the creators drop support.
>obviously anyone who bought the game was on the dim side or didn't care about being out the money, but that isn't the point.
It actually is the point. Commies and lefties always get shit flipped. The power is ALWAYS with the demand, not supply. The free market is a self correcting system when left alone. If the trend doesn't match the demand, it not longer becomes profitable and they either back-peddle or go out of business.
The most recent example is the DEI shit.
>The free market is a self correcting system when left alone
The free market just ends up a monopoly. You are moronic. It always more advatangeous for powers be that be, be few in number
No, monopolies form when government regulations stifle competition and make the barrier of entry too high to even start to compete with the larger corporations.
You can still have monopolies without the government you moronic ape
Not really.
If a "natural" monopoly forms; it's through benevolence aka perfectly satisfying the demands of 100% of consumers 100% of the time. Theoretically it's possible. In practice it's absurdity.
>t's through benevolence aka perfectly satisfying the demands of 100% of consumers 100% of the time.
you are so fricking stupid im not even going to bother responding to you anymore
Post an example of a "natural" monopoly then you marxist clown.
>legally force companies to support their game till the end of time and refund all in-game items
Frick it, I don't even care anymore. Lets just speedrun vidya to the ground, total vidya collapse here we go
Read the thread Black person, nobody's asking for endless support
That's literally what everyone is asking for.
>people are so moronic here they don't even understand what support means
I need to leave
We're not asking for devs to endlessly support it
we're wanting an end of life plan and the tools to support it ourselves once support ends. This could mean patching in an offline mode, or simply letting us host dedicated/listen servers ourselves
We had no problem doing that 30 years ago
Sounds like excellent way to compromise yourself and open door wide open for every cheat developer.
But hey, it's not about doing the right thing, it's about FEELING like you are part of the good fight! Just let the game devs sort it out, they are not doing any actual work anyways, amirite?
Cheat developers already have doors wide open for them. What are you even saying you idiot demagogue?
force companies to support their game
why are you so stupid you dont know what an offline mode is.
strawman you frickin pavement ape
devs only need to remove always online drm once games reaches EOL
maybe release info so people could make their own servers.
And we will be happy.
why are there so many corpo bootlickers itt? almost feels targeted with how pissy and facetious they're being about it
if these are discordtrannies, I thought for sure fighting against corporations was lefty favorite passtime. No sense
>why are there so many corpo bootlickers itt?
You think people are bootlickers just because YOU bought the game and licked their like boot?
No one is supporting the company here, they're laughing at you for buying an online based game expecting it to always work when it was always a bad investment because for whatever reason it's going to die in the future, it's inevitable.
>You think people are bootlickers just because YOU bought the game and licked their like boot?
>im not a bootlicker REEE IM JUST DEFENDING SHITTY COMPANIES
homosexual
Yeah, I'm the one defending the company, not you who bought this shitty shovelware and supported the practice in the first place.
I didn't throw my money away, I'm not saying it's right that ubisoft is doing this, I'm just saying it's going to happen and lo and behold, it did.
You got your comeuppance for supporting shitty practices, now deal with it and learn to not support games like that again.
Black person your attacking the people trying to prevent the shitty practices. Yes you dumb homosexual you are the bootlicker here. How many paint chips did you eat as a child?
>your attacking the people trying to prevent the shitty practices.
Learn your place, you insignificant speck of fecal matter. The shitty practice was making an online only game in the first place and you went out and bought that anyway despite how ludicrously bad the idea of an online only game is.
The chances are you were even warned about it at the time since it was far less accepted in 2014 than it was now but you stuck your fingers in your ears and did it anyway.
>Blaming the consumer is not how you get anywhere.
Yes, yes it is. The consumer ultimately holds all the power since without their money the company cannot function, if the consumer is terminally moronic like the people who bought The Crew in the first place then they deserve what's coming to them and should take the opportunity to learn from their mistakes and never support the practice again.
>There is no reason you shouldn't feel the exact same way unless you're some kind of literal shill.
A shill for what? By your logic you're more of a shill than I am since you bought a more recent Ubisoft game than Sands of Time which was my last ubisoft game. Yes, I haven't bought an ubisoft game in over 20 years because they are abject trash but the reason I don't feel the same way as you is because I have braincells and know that if I were to buy something that's a bad deal from the get go, I have no one to blame but myself but like I said, braincells, I've never bought a game that could rendered unplayable just because someone flipped a switch.
>that if I were to buy something that's a bad deal from the get go, I have no one to blame but myself
>dude, scams are totally cool if you're dumb enough to fall for them
I am against scams, I also do not get scammed because I'm not stupid. What's happening now is the scam artist is about to get fricked as the chickens come home to roost. To anyone with a functioning brain this is a good thing. You seem to be in support of scams and attack anyone who is against them. Of course I'm going to call you a shill.
See what I mean? You can't even argue against me without making yourself look like an abject mongoloid. I mean, do you think that this is the first game this has happened to? Of course it isn't and it won't be the last. Know why? Because you don't learn from your mistakes.
>You seem to be in support of scams and attack anyone who is against them.
You're saying that as a literal supporter of an obvious scam, what went though your head that made you come to the conclusion that I support scams when my entire argument is that I don't support scams?
>Of course I'm going to call you a shill
You don't even know what that word means you dumbass, how can I be shilling something when I'm telling you not to support ubisoft and always online games?
No wonder you bought The Crew, if your brain is this fricking rotten.
>I support scams when my entire argument is that I don't support scams?
Bro, your entire reply chain is nothing but blaming consumers which is in direct defense of ubisoft. This isn't hard. I've laid it out as simple as possible; whether you buy ubislop or don't, this is only a good thing for consumers. You being like "no, you totally deserve to get shafted" only makes you look like a shill.
>which is in direct defense of ubisoft.
How exactly is calling their games trash and pointing out their anti-consumer practices defending ubisoft? Just because I'm calling you out for being the wienersucking corporate stooge you are for buying into a scam doesn't mean I'm defending the scammer.
You're just as much to blame here as they are for enabling this practice in the first place.
I don't buy ubisoft games you stupid homosexual. This is still a great thing. All you're doing is attacking consumers where literally everyone benefits from ubhishart getting shafted. You ARE defending them, in the most clear cut terms possible. You're a fricking shill.
>I don't buy ubisoft games you stupid homosexual.
And yet here you are defending your right to be a dumbass and buy their games.
>This is still a great thing.
No it isn't, not only will this go absolutely nowhere since it isn't the first online only game to be taken down people won't learn their lesson and will just fricking do it again expecting to be thrown a bone the next time they complain.
You shouldn't be striving for an industry where you have to throw tantrums like this, you should be striving for one where people are aware from the get go and know not to feed it.
>And yet here you are defending your right to be a dumbass and buy their games.
No, I'm defending very basic consumer rights. Companies should not be allowed to act this way.
>people won't learn their lesson
They shouldn't fricking have to. You shouldn't have to walk on egg shells and do a ton of research just to not get scammed.
>You shouldn't be striving for an industry where you have to throw tantrums like this,
That industry doesn't exist when you defend this kind of behavior, which is what you're doing. You are doing the exact opposite you are claiming to, you are fighting against consumer rights.
>Companies should not be allowed to act this way.
Then don't buy the products that enable that, it's not that hard to grasp. But homosexuals like you just can't resist the taste of boot.
>They shouldn't fricking have to. You shouldn't have to walk on egg shells and do a ton of research just to not get scammed.
Yes, that's how the world should work. You shouldn't expect everyone to work on the "pure goodwill of mankind!", you should apply basic fricking common sense and realise that buying something you can't control isn't good.
That doesn't require research either, just plain old common sense.
>That industry doesn't exist when you defend this kind of behavior
You're joking right? How did you even come to that conclusion when I'm quite literally saying "do not buy into this behavior, be above a blithering man-slug and do not buy it" that's the opposite of defending it. That's lambasting it and anyone who supports it.
>Then don't buy the products that enable that
I already don't. But why would I stop half way when the companies that frick over consumers are about to get fricked over?
>you should apply basic fricking common sense and realise that buying something you can't control isn't good.
Why should it even be legal to buy something that can randomly be taken away from you at any moment? Why is it on the onus of the consumer to not get scammed instead of the scammer to not scam?
>How did you even come to that conclusion when I'm quite literally saying "do not buy into this behavior
Your conclusion is "no, you should get fricked for falling for this" instead of "I'm glad whoever tried to do this scam got caught". My position from the start has been "I never fell for this, but I am happy seeing them get raped for trying it", which is the natural pro consumer position.
It's the natural position for anyone not on the ASPD spectrum. Only anti-social scum feel like scammers should be given their victory if they can pull it off.
>But why would I stop half way when the companies that frick over consumers are about to get fricked over?
So you genuinely think they're going to get fricked over for something everyone saw coming? And again, this isn't the first time this has happened, there's already a precedent for online content being lost.
>Why is it on the onus of the consumer to not get scammed instead of the scammer to not scam?
Because whether or not the scammer is punished they'll find another avenue and exploit morons like you and because you chose to blame others instead of yourself you're just going to make the same mistake and fall for it again.
You can't make a scammer stop scamming if you could Indian and Chinese scammers wouldn't be an issue, all you can do is become smart enough to not fall for it and that's not very hard.
Hell there was a time when we were educated about this but clearly your younger generation skipped out on that.
>Your conclusion is "no, you should get fricked for falling for this" instead of "I'm glad whoever tried to do this scam got caught".
Yes, because the former is far more effective than the latter.
If the scammer is caught it's not going to lead to lead to less scamming, it only leads to smarter scamming. The only way to stop scamming is to stop being a fricking dumbass.
>My position from the start has been "I never fell for this, but I am happy seeing them get raped for trying it"
You clearly fell for it otherwise you wouldn't be defending the idea of being scammed, you'd be laughing at the people who were so they know what to do next time. Blaming other people for your mistakes is just going to lead to your making that same mistake again.
Ignore those low IQ homosexual, he literally has no idea why consumer protections exist
>Ignore those low IQ homosexual
Irony.
Nitpicking a typo proves me even righter
Hope someone puts AIDS in your water supply and you won't drink it cause you'll just know cause your so smart
>So you genuinely think they're going to get fricked over for something everyone saw coming?
Why wouldn't they?
>Because whether or not the scammer is punished they'll find another avenue and exploit morons like you
Why normalize shitty exploitative behavior in the first place? Why are you defending it this hard? Companies being forced by law to provide consumers with a way to continue playing their games after they stop service is ONLY a good thing. You can't always foresee how you're going to get fricked over either. For example, I wasn't stupid enough to buy ubisoft games, but I did buy capcom games after they eventually removed denuvo thinking "okay, now it must be safe to buy this game" only to get sucker punched by enigma being added to every single game across their entire catalog a decade+ later. Given any opportunity to put screws to any of these companies for shitting on consumers, you'd be a fool not to push forward. What if capcom could get sued for this and realized it? If there was significant threat from consumer backlash to start a class action, they wouldn't even attempt it in the first place. You are at a constant tug of war with these companies that will do everything in their power to frick you over when given the opportunity. My message is why let them while yours seems to be feigning indifference while simultaneously punishing back against anyone who tries.
>Why wouldn't they?
Because no one in their right mind would expect a game to stay online forever and the EULA already mentioned potential future shutdowns and while EULA's aren't legally binding, the point is that consumers were already informed of the possibility. It's not something that came out of nowhere.
>Why normalize shitty exploitative behavior in the first place?
Exactly? Why do you want scams to be normalised?
If you had your way we'd live in a world where the only counter to a scam is just hoping they're being genuine because no matter how much you change the law they're just going to change to a new grift like how companies moved from nfts to AI.
> Companies being forced by law to provide consumers with a way to continue playing their games after they stop service is ONLY a good thing.
No because they'll just go through another loophole. The only way to stop it is to stop being moronic.
>You can't always foresee how you're going to get fricked over either.
Yes, yes you can. It's called thinking, buying a product isn't an unforseen act of God, you have time before you make your final decision.
>bro you can't stop murder
>just raise up your hands and give up
>woooooahh nooo don't punish the murderer
>expect a game to stay online forever
No one expects that, they expect to be able to launch the game the bought.
>and while EULA's aren't legally binding
Nice job refuting your own point.
>Why do you want scams to be normalised?
No, that's what you want. You want everyone to be punished except the actual scammer.
>in a world where the only counter to a scam is just hoping they're being genuine
Black person, if you do anti-consumer shit you should be punished. It's that simple.
>The only way to stop it is to stop being moronic.
>Yes, yes you can. It's called thinking
I already explained how you can't always predict how you're going to get fricked over. It should all be criminal. No one could have predicted enigma 5 years ago.
>No because they'll just go through another loophole.
This is not an excuse to throw up your hands and give up when a company fricks people over.
>My position from the start has been "I never fell for this, but I am happy seeing them get raped for trying it", which is the natural pro consumer position.
That's the anti-consumer position, pro consumer would be advocating for consumer education so scams fail.
>the anti-consumer position is protecting consumers
You're protecting consumers though, you're just bolstering scams
>you're bolstering scams by criminalizing them
>just let them get away with it bro
ok moron
Scams are already criminalised but they still happen. The only protection you can provide is education.
Nothing keeps you from doing both moron.
Not the point, the point is that criminalizing it only creates a false sense of security which ironically creates more scams because there's less awareness for the new one.
Give me one example where decriminalizing any exploitative activity led to its decline.
>you shouldn't be striving for an industry where you can expect quality, you should be striving for one where you have to do hours of research to sift through mountains of shit
frick off shill
Excuse me, but did you just say that you want a world where you can mindlessly consume and not be accountable for your own actions?
I said I wanted a higher standard for the industry, but you can just keep strawmanning if it makes you feel better as companies find more and more creative ways to frick up games.
>I said I wanted a higher standard for the industry
No, you said you want quality without research aka mindless consumption. You can't expect quality because quality isn't objective, you have to put in the research in order to see if it's for you or even good by your standards.
Understand?
I said I wanted to not have to put in hours of research due to the large quantity of shit.
Less shit in the pool of games inherently means less research required.
But I guess you're just fine with large quantities of shit since you keep dodging that part.
>I wanted to not have to put in hours of research due to the large quantity of shit
You don't have to put in hours of research to decide if you want to buy something especially for something like an always online game. Hell your first thought should be
>how do you play this offline
Are you done acting like a disingenuous twat yet? All games today are well on their way towards being given an expiration date with live service dogshit. No, I do not think a company has a right to disable the product I paid money for remotely and just because videogame consumers are the biggest cucks ever does not mean that I am and that I will take this lying down. Which is why I will pirate and keep my games on external data carriers. I shouldn't be forced to resort to copyright infringement to make the shit I paid money for work, but that's what I have to do. And there are many games out there that cannot be preserved in such a way either. The rest is worthless sophistry that's you just going on and on "Well just don't buy shitty games!" Guess fricking what, all games will become shitty if people do nothing about the legal framework surrounding the actions of megacorporations. Of course like le epic "Reasonable" human being you will just insult me, tell me that I am pathetic or that I should just find a different hobby XD. have a nice day, scum.
Blaming the consumer is not how you get anywhere. Your personal boycott pales in comparison to this effort. Stop huffing your own farts and do something or shut up.
I haven't bought an ubisoft game since asscreed 1. Still hoping to god they get fricked by the french courts. There is no reason you shouldn't feel the exact same way unless you're some kind of literal shill.
I doubt most people itt actually bought this game. The point is not the crew specifically. What happens if somebody in the future makes a game you enjoy, but the company that owns them decides to force them to make it only online. Will you just throw up your hands and be fine with it dying? Boycotting is one way to attempt to stop the killing of games, legal action is another way. Both are long shots, but it's better to try than being a doomer homosexual
>What happens if somebody in the future makes a game you enjoy, but the company that owns them decides to force them to make it only online
NTA but are you trying to say that they'll retroactively make a game online only? Because if they rerelease a new game that's online only I wouldn't play it on principle.
Either that or they get forced to make it online only during development. I wouldn't buy it either, but the point is to stop companies from doing this so we don't have to not play games on this principle
>, but the point is to stop companies from doing this so we don't have to not play games on this principle
Then you should be making the people who bought the game feel like idiots so they know not to support a company until they stop these ridiculous practices.
Diving in head first and then complaining later won't fix anything
The problem with boycotting is there's just too many sheep who will buy whatever if it's shiny. And in any case, why not also try to get some country's courts to stop it? As long as companies stop killing games who cares what the tactic is?
>NOOOOOOOO STOP UBISOFT CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT YOU DESERVE THIS THIS IS YOUR FAULT YOU CAN'T JUST OWN THINGS
sorry, all I hear is bootlicking
But you don't have to own the game to do something about this, ubishill...
They're conditioned like cattle.
I though this was april fools joke
Why would you even buy online only games if you care so much? Who is forcing you to buy them?
If we don't try to stop it corpos will absolutely try to make every new game online only
Then don't buy them?
Sure there's enough in my backlog and to replay to keep me satisfied, but I'd rather there also be new videogames I can own and enjoy.
So play them, they come out every day
Yes, for now there's still plenty of games being made that are not online only. But you have to admit that publishers have been pushing it for a while now. My issue will be when games that interest me turn out to be online only. Yes there are other games out there, but wouldn't it be better if companies couldn't kill some of their games?
> Who is forcing you to buy them?
The real answer is no one.
They did this to themselves, and now that they are going to have to sleep in the bed they made they are crying a storm for everyone else to come to their rescue.
Frick em.
just copy and paste responses from the FAQ for the same canned posts since people aren't reading anyway
Ok so yeah if you Chuds are going to associate yourselves with fricking fascists then yeah I’m not supporting your cause.
i dont own the crew, and you cant purchase it anymore it seems. i dont have social media either, but you have my support. bump.
You don't have to own it if you live in Europe. You just have to sign a letter of complaint on the site
I never knew there were so many Marxist homosexuals on Ganker. Zoomers are a fricking plague.
>Not letting a company rape you means you’re a marxist
The state forcing companies to do business in specific ways and banning them from the market otherwise is Marxist, yes.
Nice try tankie, nobody buys it.
Wanting to own the property I bought and paid for is literally capitalist frick you
Always online and service based shit is zoomercore
It is but Millenials let this happen when they made shit like WoW a smash hit
Ok. OP I will help you.
What should I write before I send it? Give me a template.
Frick Ubisoft french fricks btw. They ruined Division 1 aswell, so I'm down to help out.
>What should I write before I send it? Give me a template.
go to the website: stopkillinggames.com
there's a detailed guide on what to do
Quick solution: Stop buying GaaS garbage, and nothing about this will matter.
more of a long-term solution since turboisraelite publishers are still gambling by throwing a lot of them at the wall and hoping one sticks
Frick Ubisoft.
Tell me, zoomers and fellow redditors, how do you plan to fight when you hit the AGREE button to this?
>9. CHANGES TO THIS EULA OR TO THE PRODUCT.
>UBISOFT reserves the right, in its sole and absolute discretion, to revise, update, change, modify, add to, supplement, or delete certain terms of this EULA for security, legal, best practice or regulatory reasons. Such changes will be effective with or, as applicable, without prior notice to You. You can review the most current version of this EULA by clicking on the “EULA” link located on the Product or on ubi.com. You are responsible for checking this EULA periodically for changes. If any future changes to this EULA are unacceptable to You or cause You to no longer be in agreement or compliance with this EULA, You may terminate this EULA in accordance with Section 8 and must immediately uninstall the Product and destroy all copies of the Product. Your continued use of the Product following any revision to this EULA constitutes Your complete and irrevocable acceptance of any and all such changes.
EULAs aren't legally binding.
except in the US
americans are beyond cucked
US courts throw them out all the time as well. You are wrong. EULA"s are just there to scare consumers, they dont actually work if people fight them.
>US courts throw them out all the time as well.
Eh, no.
>The enforceability of an EULA depends on several factors, one of them being the court in which the case is heard. Some courts that have addressed the validity of the shrinkwrap license agreements have found some EULAs to be invalid, characterizing them as contracts of adhesion, unconscionable, and/or unacceptable pursuant to the U.C.C.—see, for instance, Step-Saver Data Systems, Inc. v. Wyse Technology, Vault Corp. v. Quaid Software Ltd.. Other courts have determined that the shrinkwrap license agreement is valid and enforceable: see ProCD, Inc. v. Zeidenberg,[9] Microsoft v. Harmony Computers, Novell v. Network Trade Center, and Ariz. Cartridge Remanufacturers Ass'n v. Lexmark Int'l, Inc. may have some bearing as well. No court has ruled on the validity of EULAs generally; decisions are limited to particular provisions and terms.
Every single case of that you just listed is before 2000. And those EULA's were not even remotely the same as to what we are dealing now. Great job posting apparently worthless drivel
>Every single case of that you just listed is before 2000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Cartridge_Remanufacturers_Ass%27n_Inc._v._Lexmark_International_Inc.
Besides, none of those rulings were not overturned. have a nice day.
moron those EULA"S were on the box and easy to read. The thing your stupid ass conveniently ignores. Which is why MODERN EULA"S dont hold up.
>moron those EULA"S were on the box and easy to read.
Hmmm... sweaty... it's already out of the box.
You are too stupid for this discussion, go to /mlp/ its clearly more your speed
Keep coping, homosexual. Your shit case will lose, and will be all your fault.
how much is ubisoft paying you to post here israelite?
Nothing. I was just telling you that jurisprudence doesn't really back up your case, but you prefer to live in Wonderland. This is exactly why this case will end badly. Good luck anyways, tho. Too bad this good cause is managed AND supported by morons.
same as you, seething poorgay
Is that how you cope with getting btfo by a humble png?
>post utterly irrelevant drivel not understanding you actually aren't making a point but completely misunderstanding everything
lol moron
Sorry, there's just something so poetic about someone going "EULAS USED TO BE ON THE BOX!!!!!" and then getting shown that they still are, and then immediately burying your head in the sand, like a toddler lacking object permanence.
>All title, ownership rights and intellectual property rights in and to the Product (including, without limitation, all text, graphics, music or sounds, all messages or items of information, fictional characters, names, themes, objects, scenery, costumes, effects, dialogues, slogans, places, characters, diagrams, concepts, choreographies, videos, audio-visual effects, domain names and any other elements which are part of the Product, individually or in combination) and any and all copies thereof are owned by UBISOFT or its licensors. The Product is protected by national and international laws, copyright treaties and conventions and other laws.
UBISOFT reserves the right to change, modify, add or delete articles in this EULA at any time, in accordance with the procedures described below in Section 9.
>UBISOFT reserves the right to change, modify, add or delete articles in this EULA at any time, in accordance with the procedures described below in Section 9.
which again is irrelevant and wont hold up in court. You cant change contracts on a whim. You have to inform the signees on every change.
>UBISOFT may modify the Product for any reason or without any specific reason, at any time and at its entire discretion, in particular for technical reasons such as updates, maintenance operations and/or resets to improve and/or optimize the Product. You agree that the Product may install or download the modifications automatically. You agree that UBISOFT may stop to support previous versions of the Product upon availability of an updated version. UBISOFT’s channel partners and associated service providers shall have no obligation to furnish any maintenance or customer support with respect to the Product. UBISOFT also reserves the right to amend the Rules of Conduct set out in Section 1 to place limits on the use of the Product.
>You are responsible for checking this EULA periodically for changes.
>presses AGREE
>loses his mind when they do what they're allowed to do
https://legal-info.lawyers.com/business-law/business-law-basics/contract-modification.html#:~:text=Once%20a%20contract%20has%20been,by%20another%20six%20months)%3B
Fricking moron, you cannot change terms without informing the parties and them agreeing to it.
>>You are responsible for checking this EULA periodically for changes.
literally zero courts would hold this up. No you cannot force the customers to constantly check. It is your job to inform them.
If the devs put in the EULA that they can shoot you in the head that doesn't make it legal you dumb homosexual.
>EULAs are basically enforceable as contracts between a company and their customers
>but also, companies can change the terms of their EULAs at anytime and face no repercussions
American corporate law is such a joke holy shit
eulas aren't legally binding, as evidenced by the fact that they get thrown out faster than prenups. There is also something extremely fricked up about the fact that you can't play the game until you accept the eula but you can buy it without having to accept anything. Nothing about that is legally sound.
> revise, update, change, modify, add to, supplement, or delete certain terms of this EULA for security, legal, best practice or regulatory reasons
This whole part voids the entire agreement. You cant retroactively change contracts.
This sort of shit just makes me realize just how disposable games really are nowadays
I know games have always been a product at the end of the day, first and foremost, but it never seemed this blatant
Everything is just disposable now, and it's always just cause the publishers want you to pony up for their next fricking game.
Frick getting a team of competent developers to make a great product that will last
Let's just get a bunch of cheap diversity hires and pajeets that can't even code in Scratch, fill everything with MTX and battle passes, and then shut it down and repeat ad nauseam
You own nothing. You are happy.
>big government is le heckin based when it involves video games I don't even play
>The government is based when it dickslaps my enemies
Yes
>big government is when companies are legally obligated to... give people the thing they paid money for
they could just stop support and add in the ability for players to make servers like a ton of other games
Yes unironically
>consumer rights?????????? what you want big government???
you are so fricking gay
Considering this all stems from Ross it is worth mentioning he wants a big government regulating everything, when the topic comes up he thinks he's painting a utopian ideal but actually describing a UK-esque nightmare nanny state
Big government exists either way, better to twist their balls in your favor.
Good effort by the trolls and shills ITT, they are putting in more work than the jannies ever did
9594
Surely you can come up with something better, dipshit
>Buy always online game
>Be shocked when devs eventully pull support
This is like spending money on a gacha that announced it's shutting down, thrn being outraged when it actually shuts down. And no, pointing that out doesn't make me a corporate shill. You knew damn well what was gonna happen when you bought the always online game, doesn't make it less shitty, but to think Ubisoft is gonna give you the tools to play an old game instead of trying to get you to buy their new game is laughable. And no, i don't need this lawsuit to learn that corperations would prefer me not owning my games, a single, cursory glance at the current state of the game industry would teach that to even the dumbest moron.
Nexon should just release their servers, dude. It would be so easy.
Yes unironically
We aren’t shocked, but we are doing something about it, unlike you. Your non-purchase means very little, this means something. So take your purity spiral somewhere else homosexual, we’re sticking it to AAA while you whine at fellow consumers.
>buy product
>product is taken away from you with no recourse
how about they just release an SDK when they decide to nuke everything?
how about you learn to code, Black person?
it's not my job to get YOUR product into a workable state
israelite post
gibsmedat brownoid post
>This is like spending money on a gacha that announced it's shutting down, thrn being outraged when it actually shuts down
Or crossing the road in front of a speeding motor
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST TURN ME INTO A BINBAG AAAAAHHH
Which prio did you guys pick and I still need a short hard hitting sentence to dab on Ubisoft.
anon...
obviously pick the highest (or all of them)
you can just paste the list of talking points they give you and throw it into chatgpt so you get a unique message.
Damn. Poor guy.
jej
Hhahahahahahahaha
This guy would have a much better case if he waited for them to kill a good game instead of generic racer slop #9492020, why would I ever give a shit about The Crew being shut down?
“The Crew” isn’t the point. Frick The Crew and frick Ubisoft.
This is about setting a precedent, you know, the same reason we can have emulators?
This is like setting a precedent for free speech by campaigning Cuties, no one cares.
You clearly care, you’re spending time whining about it and dismissing it. Go play something Mr. “I don’t care”.
Jew. You clearly care since you are shilling so hard
Please show me your copies of The Crew or shut the frick up.
You don't need to own the crew to frick them over and end games as a service
Depends. What country do you live in?
Clown
If I don't have the The Crew what can I do?
Go to stopkillinggames.com and it’ll tell you. If you’re in the US all you can do is spread awareness.
Signal boost to find someone who did, and check the site for your country
Spread the word and if you live in the EU you can sign the ECI when it shows up
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you can go back, homosexual
How does this argument work with mobile gacha games when they close service and people who spent thousands on their pngs lost them?
Yes
You don't have to own it. Just live in Europe or Australia.
Free to play games with microtransactions are included.
>not reading the terms and conditions
gets ya every time
That text is worthless if it contradicts with the EU law
Fun fact it is in the US as well but good fricking luck winning anyways
if they're really that israeli they can just sell the method to play it without having to phone home all the time
it'd be fricking gay but it's still technically a solution and would very slightly move things back to the ideal of community servers
Sorta related and it's been on my mind for a while now so here we go;
Why don't rightoids make their own videogames they can keep supporting for as long as they like? Why are they always trying to change others, and never trying to be the change themselves?
Not that any of this would matter because you know what you were getting into when you bought online only games. We warned you you didn't listen.
>rightoids
These people aren't conservatives, or they'd support a free market. These are just homosexual zoomoids who've never worked a day in their lives and get all their political opinions from TikTok.
>people ITT are actually advocating that "vote with your wallet" works
Holy shit, I know Ganker was dumb but not this fricking moronic.
Voting with your wallet works when people actually do it. The problem is that no one does.
They aren’t dumb, they are receiving compensation to disrupt, either in (you)s or cold hard cash.
People who actually want to get shit done for once are onboard.
>Le israelitegyman!
People are just rightfully admitting you're moronic for giving a shit about The Crew.
This is like complaining about EA stopping server support for WWE '19 or one of the thousands of football games they shit out every year
>The Crew
Nobody cares about The Crew. I will never play The Crew.
This is an opportunity to set a legal precedent for ALL GAMES. If you are against this precedent, then you are compromised.
You realize there's already a precedent for companies doing this right? Remember Battleborn?
Literally working with the DEI shit, you moron.
Countless games flopping and devs culling staff are all signs that the game industry is thriving.
It works every single fricking time because companies are only after one thing, money. If they are starved of that money they either have to adapt or die. If they are receiving none of your money, then there's zero reason for you to give a frick. If other morons want to fund them, then let them. It doesn't impact you.
>You're an ubisoft shill
Objectively false and nothing could be further from the truth. I've been shitting on Ubisoft for literal decades at this point. They have a grand total of $0 of my money because I don't buy their garbage games for this and many other reasons. Caveat Emptor, Buyer beware.
>Companies don’t influence other companies
You’d be the homosexual who would say “just don’t buy the horse armor” during the Oblivion days, and look how that turned out you absolute homosexual.
I don’t play ubishit either, this is still the best strategy to actually create meaningful change and you do NOT have an argument against that.
>and look how that turned out you absolute homosexual.
Because there's a fricking demand for microtransactions. Are you a moron buying microtransactions? Why do you care? I don't give a frick about microtransactions because I don't buy them nor play games that include them.
>this is still the best strategy to actually create meaningful change
Government intervention is almost never the answer and will almost always lead to worse consequences. Have you played Hotline Miami 2? I legally can not. I can not purchase the game and rewards the developers for making content I actually enjoy because my government says it is harmful.
>Hotline Miami 2
What country?
Australia.
Clearly there's also demand for pyramid schemes since people keep buying into them, but our evil governments forbid us from creating such an in-demand product. Woe is us.
Make up your mind, either regulations stop the practice or they don't. The fact that it's illegal and morons are still falling for it means there's no curb of the demand and people are going to find a way regardless.
Same shit with illicit drugs. By making the process illegal often what happens is the process goes underground and the people providing said illegal good/service now get to charge a mark up for the increased risk making them richer.
>either regulations stop the practice or they don't
You're a maximalist moron. Just because banning drugs doesn't eliminate absolutely all drug trade in existence doesn't mean it doesn't massively curb it, to everyone's benefit. I prefer living in a country where heroin is used by a small number of junkies making dealings in secret and prosecuted wherever it crops up, rather than one where advertising companies can sell little Timmy in elementary a line of coke and brag how it has wonderful medicinal properties and everyone should be using it.
I want to play Jade's game!
Is it true this is the comic that made her step away from the fore?
>We are shifting development studios of The Crew to FrickBlack folk Montreal
>FrickBlack folk Montreal gets closed down 2 days after opening
>The Crew servers are offline
>Rosschuds seethe that they lost
Anybody who buys shit like The Crew deserves what they get.
Anyone who excuses the business practices of AAA by deflecting it onto consumers deserves the industry they get.
I'm not. Ubisoft, and all publisher owned developers should be thrown into a volcano. Their families too.
Then stick it to the man instead of lording over his victims.
Literal frothing communist
>basic consumer rights is communism
>Ownership is suddenly a communist ideal because… IT JUST IS OKAY?!?!?
>you don't want to own nothing? you're a communist
sorry, it's not april 1st anymore
Ownership of property is about the least communist concept imaginable
And the company owns the game. You don't, never did.
You'd know this if you read the giant EULA notice on the store page, but it's already readily apparent you can't read.
Verification not required.
>I don't have responsibility for continuing to buy these products with finite lifespans because of their online dependency.
You already know what games do and do not have the potential for the same outcome as The Crew yet you still buy them and mash through the EULA to get to the title screen. I don't feel bad for anyone who has had their "games stolen" because they shouldn't have bought these in the first place.
You're victims of your own stupidity, probably covered in burn scars from the last time you tried to toast bread
>The crew
>A shit ass racing game
>EUROPE, AUTRALIA OR BRAZIL
God USA bros why is the rest of the world full of drooling morons who play shit like this?
ubisoft le putain du merde baguette francois gayuette
Don't care what it is as long as it fricks over Ubisoft.
Don't own the crew, will never own it, will never own a single Ubisoft game. Doesn't matter. They can get fricked.
I'm still mad at Ubisoft for disabling DLC you bought because the drm was server side.
>that cool as mega-yacht mission from SC:Blacklist forever gone now
why are people talking about US law when this is in the EU, and the EU does not give a frick about EULA's.
> EU does not give a frick about EULA's.
EU being based once again and not falling for fake and gay legal tricks.
Divide and conquer shills and (you) farmers don’t care about making sense, they are here to disrupt and deflect.
Shills ITT are trying to spin “do nothing” as the answer to a practice they claim to hate instead of seeking to eliminate it.
90% sure that most of them are Troonix users. They're the ones that hate more than anything else when people say the government should pressure corporations like Microsoft and Apple.
>using linux to escape from corpos means you will defend them for free
??????
next you're gonna tell me it's linux users defending microsoft for raping its users in the ass
Ganoo/Loonix users are the first ones that oppose any kind of pressure on Microsoft and Apple to make their systems not shit because it makes their shit kernel and userland more appealing. Troonix is nothing more than a death cult.
The only thing I want eliminated are the morons that buy online only games in the first place.
No, I will not do anything to help you fricks. You made this bed, now sleep in it.
Great, go frick off while the adults handle the problem.
>a practice they claim to hate
I've never claimed to give a shit, in fact I have made posts in this very thread asking why exactly I should give a shit about games that effectively don't exist to me, and have yet to receive an answer beyond "War's on, join or shill"
And the truth is I doubt most of the militant campaigners give a shit either, it's just a chance to fellate Ross under a higher purpose
>I don’t care
You post a lot for someone who doesn’t care.
>muh always online
>muh matchmaking
why did gamers get complacent and allowed the death of lan and server hosting, this should be the same for MMOs; let them be compatible with MUD networking so shit can last forever like ultima online
it’s ten years I don’t think you have a case since there’s a crew 2
Are you suggesting they gave away The Crew 2 to the original owners as compensation? Because it's funny if you do think that.
>This whole thread explains why the German government imported all those Muslims.
>The people there are so dumb and broke that they play realistic racing games and beg to a Mongolian basket weaving forums for help.
3rd world problems mayne. Being an ameri-shart is truly a great blessing.
EU forced Apple to switch to USB-C btw
This approach actually works, unlike complaining on the internet.
the worst thing is when games become unplayable due to requiring unique discontinued hardware (nintendies), or were made for an ancient operating system that needs a code monkey to patch in the dependencies. koikatsu uses windows XP i think lmao.
UM ANYONE WHO SENT THEIR KIDS TO THE COALMINES DESERVES WHAT THEY GET. I WOULD NEVER SEND MY KIDS TO THE COALMINES, THERE’S NO NEED TO REFORM THE LAWS JUST DON’T SEND YOUR KIDS TO THE COALMINES.
jej
Analogies are for smoothbrain morons
Let's just pretend that the entire context around coal mining doesn't exist and that it's exactly like buying a video game, absolutely fricking stupid and this is the kind of shit breadtube leftists think makes a good argument
>types out a paragraph
>expects a (You)
have a nice day, sharts
>buy online only game
>cry when game get shut down
Decade ago this would have been a shitpost.
Now it's a sober account of current thing.
I don't see the problem with this, just buy a newer racing game like Forza that isn't shit that nobody plays.
The only reason you have a issue with this shit game shutting down is if you're a third worlder who can't afford new games.
>I don't see a problem with not owing anything
why are morons here actually trying argue against a chance to shit on ubisoft?
1. Paid actors
2. Trolls farming (you)s
3. Corporate wienersuckers who do it for free
4. Brainlet idiots who think that now is the time to act high and mighty instead of dealing a killing blow
because this is Ganker who will argue against anything even when it benefits them
because it's coming from a disingenuous place, no one actually gives a shit about The Crew.
The game doesn't matter, its just the cudgel being used. The precedent would apply to every single game after
which is why it stinks of deceit. where was this movement when battleborn shut down its servers
>stinks of deceit
.......are you trying to make some kind of moronic conspiracy out of this? Sucks it wasnt there for battleborn, too bad, but its here now.
How is this going to set a precedent when game devs have been shutting down online only games already for years with no backlash or legal recourse due to it being allowed in every EULA ever?
Do you think EA's 400000 lawyers wont bring up the fact that its common practice?
Are you moronic anon? Nobody sued over those games, thats why there was none. No one tried anything like they are now. Thats the difference. Someone got off their ass and did something finally. Nobody doing nothing for 20 years doesn't make what the companies doing law.
Surely the judicial system in whatever backass country they're trying to do this shit in won't notice the fact that THEY had to be approached for this common practice that is legal and okay everywhere else in the world.
>legal and okay everywhere else in the world.
Would you like to show me the supposed law that makes this legal?
There are no laws that make something legal, only laws that make something illegal.
By nature of it not being against the law it is legal.
What is the point of this stupid post? So in otherwords the companies also have nothing legally backing them either then.
Companies don't make law they only follow it. There is no law against shutting down servers that everyone who bought the game agreed would be acceptable.
>Companies don't make law they only follow it.
and they also break it all the time, just like they are doing now. Imagine me buying a fridge, and then walmart coming into myself and taking it away. No, you actually cant just retroactively decide to take someones lawfully acquired goods away.
>Nobody sued over those games, thats why there was none.
That's why this one won't work. It'll just come off as morons screaming into the wind.
Ok so you mind telling me how the countless other things in the world end up having legal precedent then? moron. Things gotta start somewhere.
leafs love ubisoft and are the most genuinely moronic posters on this site
I have a sound theory on why canadians can be so irrational. The culprit is their beloved maple syrup. They drink tons of it every year. But it contains large amounts of manganese. Manganese overdose can cause manganism, a neurological disorder.
>Manganism is a biphasic disorder. In its early stages, an intoxicated person may experience depression, mood swings, compulsive behaviors, and psychosis.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maple_syrup
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganism
tldr: Maple syrup is literally making canadians insane.
>Paid shills
>(you) farmers
>zoomers who are literally too stupid to understand the situation.
Did you Ubishills get upset when they stepped in to allow Steam refunds?
People did, yes. They blame that for killing good sales.
Steamgays seethe to this day over refunds, where have you been
Like the other anon said it became the scapegoat for killing flash sales
Let’s say you genuinely dislike the practice. Do you:
A. Try to convince the population of the Earth to agree with you enough so that the practice stops?
B. Try to convince one government body to agree with you so that the practice stops?
C. Ignore it as it gets larger and larger?
You should be able to solve this.
B
I choose to shoot myself in the foot
D. just don't buy it lol
I don't see how this is so difficult for you, but you're like a fly to shit.
That’s C.
Yeah, because that worked so well with microtransations right? I didn't buy horse armor so now full price games don't have DLC+ cash shop+ season pass?
WHY DO PEOPLE DO MAKE AND BUY THINGS I DON'T LIKE >:~~*~~*
So the cancer killing the gaming industry is fine because dumbshit whales like it? Very interesting anon. What's it like having a subarctic IQ?
People are making and playing games that you don't like. That's fine. You don't need the government to enforce your tastes at gunpoint, you stupid fricking pissy moron.
They're actually destroying games. This may come as a shock to you, but destruction is the actual antithesis of creation.
>Watch a live performance
>It ends
HOLY SHIT THIS IS CULTURAL DESTRUCTION, HELP ME BIG GOVERNMENT!!!
>Buy a bluray
>Sony randomly breaks into my house and smashes it
I can make shit up too.
Can you show me where on the Blu-ray box it says the ability to play the movie will end in a few years?
Can you show me where on my copy of COD I can find its expiration date
In the EULA.
Quick, what did you have for breakfast this morning?
Not him. The only thing more moronic that repeating a Reddit-tier question, is repeating it wrong. The question is about hypotheticals, there's no hypothetical in your question. The question should be "How'd you feel if you didn't had breakfast?" moron, have a nice day.
>Knowing a reddit tier question by heart
KWAB
People spam it here enough that it is not possible to not know about it, moron.
>not understanding the purpose then using it
Cute backpeddle moron. The state of Ubisoft shills everyone.
Where in the EULA does it state the date the game's servers will be shut down
The part where it talks about termination of services
So yeah, no dates
According to shills like you it doesn't need to. Like the crew you just need a clause that says the company can arbitrarily change the EULA at any time (something many film distributors do include for the same reason game publishers do), and now I guess Sony can legally destroy my property.
>Dodging the question
more accurately:
>Buy a bluray
>lose the disc to discrot few decades later
>sue hollywood
>people are making and playing games
The entire fricking point is that you can't play the game, because they unmade it.
They're not taking away the game you purchased, it's still there with all the files. It's up to you to fix it to make it playable now that they're no longer running servers for it.
It wasn't unmade, it ended. Which you acknowledged would happen (or maybe pretended to) when you bought the game, dipshit.
But why is the issue getting larger and larger?
Could it be that you are part of vocal minority and most people don't have an issue with any of this?
Most people didn't have an issue with lead being in fricking everything, should we have just let that continue?
Obviously. Consumer protection is communism and if you don't like lead so much just don't buy lead products. It's clearly that simple.
D. Actively disrupt the campaign to put it to a stop while claiming to dislike the practice
A&B since without additional support from A, your efforts swaying B get destroyed by corporate shills buying influence outright in a ~~*democracy*~~.
I'm thinking B
I Like shitposting and complaining Like a Woman so i ignore IT until IT gets really Bad and make a thread about it a decades later
Acknowledge there isn't a democratic or legal solution to most of our problems and look to my own
I will keep giving my money to the companies that do the thing I claim to hate and buy games that are online-only, then decade later I come crawling back to anynomous board to beg for help when they get shut down.
A.
Government regulation never goes well
True, I’m glad that my government never stepped in with the bill of rights, what a mess. Also, I miss lead in the water and lightning cables. Clearly shouting into the void is the most effective strategy.
>Clearly shouting into the void is the most effective strategy.
Which would be B
Sshh the cynic wants to feel like he's smart by being a pessimistic gay all day
>>>>>
ANDROID BROS WHAT THE FRICK IS THIS?!?!?!?!?!!?
>good news for us and the planet
>tons of ewaste generated by useless lightning cables
>apple cheaped out as they do reducing data transfer speeds
Literally all Ubisoft has to do is
>"Mail in your copy of the crew with your receipt for a full refund!"
and Ross babies will cry and shit their pants
that would be a nightmare for ubisoft to fulfill so i am all for it if they do that
I'd like to say hi to all Ubisoft marketers who were assigned to shill in threads like these, I really pity your line of work and hope you can find something less morally compromised for yourselves soon.
>still giving them (You)'s
Poster ID would make these threads more easy to read.
I hope enough anons got shillpilled ITT. Video games are a 350 Billion dollar industry, there are paid actors posting here, just like there are paid actors in the games media. It should be obvious at this point.
I'm finally a believer. I have taken the shillpill.
>there are paid actors posting here
Is more prevalent than ever before now they don't even have to fricking worry about the IP count or any flags or IDs. It wasn't even too long ago we had that Origin marketer handing out keys until EA shitcanned him and he came clean years back
I think that might have been a motivation for that change, actually.
Yeah even Ross can afford shills by the looks of it
absolutely
people seem to think Ganker is "too small" for shills
but the great thing about Ganker (for them) is that it has the lowest effort required to shill on of any major vidya website. no need to make a dozen emails and accounts, or to post other bullshit to make the account seem real, just get in and post.
I hope ross fricks ubisoft up.
>glue-eaters creaming for government to make glue illegal because they can't help themselves.
>false equivalence
Speaking of
lol, just buy the newest game
waste of time
a game is like a movie. you play it once and be done with it.
what you watch star wars episode 1 more than 1 time? cringe kiddo
>ATTENTION ALL ANONS WHO LIVE IN EUROPE, AUTRALIA OR BRAZIL
Is that, like, the list of countries with consumer rights?
Well if you live in the US you certainly don't have any.
Now that the thread has hitten bump limit...
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>MMOs shut down with no public source code release
>no reaction
>entire digital storefronts for consoles close down and redownload services become permanently unavailable later on
>no reaction
>some car game from Nu-bisoft gets nuked
>"ohmigosh, we gotta rally up togethere wheres the HECKING CHANGE DOT ORG PETITIONERINO"
At least this wasn't for gacha trash, I guess.
I mean when you play a MMO you reasonably expect there to be end of the service eventually, and when console storefronts close down you can always pirate the games for little to no effort. It is a different case with The Crew because the game didn't feel like it needed online to function (precisely for being a car game) and there is no way to play it whatsoever.
The whole fricking point is that The Crew is a normie-tier game that millions of normalgays bought as a normal ass game not under a subscription.
Its the best chance to actually fricking do something against the practice.
>The Crew is a normie-tier game that millions of normalgays bought as a normal ass game not under a subscription.
It sold like 2 mil. No one gives a shit about it and that's why it'll go nowhere.
It sold 2 mil in 2015, 5 mil by 2017, and 12 million before its death. Which is more than can likely be said than whatever random ass SNES game was on the Wii shop.
>It sold 2 mil in 2015, 5 mil by 2017, and 12 million before its death.
I swear 85% of these sales must be canadian and french citizens, I don't believe anyone else buys ubishit games in such numbers.
Anon, the only sales numbers we have are 2 mil. Everything else is a unique player count which could be achieved through used copies.
You underestima how much money the car autists have spend on that game. Most skins run for 40-110 dollars, and there are usually almost twenty per car.
That's a lot of money down the drain.
>because you didnt complain in the past you should never complain in the future ever
why are bootlickers like this?
It sets a good precedent because it was a 60$ game sold on physical disk and not some subscription thing like WoW, but please don't let that get in the way of you being a pissy sissy at people trying to do good for everyone's sake.
Anon, how many full price games with online content do you think have been taken down?
Not many, that's why we should act on it now so it doesn't become a trend. Or do you want to wait until most new games have this issue?
Lemme guess, by then you'll be saying "heh, I don't play new games anyway, not my problem", disingenuously.
>Not many,
There's a lot. Especially on PS3 alone.
this is something that should have been brought to court ages ago
videogames (or software in general) should go open source the moment the end of the service is reached
>Take companies to court.
>Videogames are now $150+ because developers are forced to support them to an unreasonable extent.
But at least we can play generic Ubisoft slop again! We did it Reddit!
>forced to support them
Or just when the game is coming to it's end of life make it playable offline or release server tools?
Which still requires development support and resources. And why should developers have to give up their propietary code? I don't want to live in a communist dystopia where creators are forced to give up their creations to the public domain.
>Which still requires development support and resources
They already have the server files you fricking moron how do you think they host them.
God if you morons could actually stop and think for a minute.
>Which still requires development support and resources
that's their problem, if they're going to go out of their way to break the fricking game they should have to fix it
> And why should developers have to give up their propietary code
releasing server tools isn't releasing proprietary, closed source code
>what is every online game released before 2012